Oh dear oh dear. Scottish football is fast turning into a joke.
I heard Braga did well last season in Portugal though.
Expect plenty of 'Celtic left with mountain to climb' headlines
I t would be nice for Spurs to do the same.
** Googles **
Yes they are.
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/cdvillafan/img_0215.jpg)
Pretty cool.
I think Petrov got sent off in that Euro 2004 game.
?% Villa?
?% Villa?
Sod Celtic and Rangers, especially Rangers after their "goodwill" vist to VP in the mid 1970s.
I always followed Meadowbank Thistle results myself.
Then they changed their name to Livingston and moved to the town where SKY have their call centre, so now thats another scottish team I hate.
Morton.
My mate is from Greenock and he took me to a game at Cappielow Park (sp?) - a nil nil shocker against Forfar. About 10 miles from Glasgow, the home end is called the Cow Shed, like Villa they were formed in 1874.
And Alan Evans managed them for a while.
Quote from: "Chico Hamilton III"Morton.
My mate is from Greenock and he took me to a game at Cappielow Park (sp?) - a nil nil shocker against Forfar. About 10 miles from Glasgow, the home end is called the Cow Shed, like Villa they were formed in 1874.
And Alan Evans managed them for a while.
Cappielow Park? (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.scottishgrounds.co.uk/morton30.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.scottishgrounds.co.uk/morton.htm&usg=__AMRmbMChEhgA7EKru9oAnp5KZv4=&h=315&w=603&sz=63&hl=en&start=4&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=NCwr4_Hjiz5kEM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCappielow%2BPark%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1R2GGLL_en-GB%26tbs%3Disch:1)
http://www.iraqgoals.net/10799-celtic-vs-sporting-braga-.html
Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air"Sod Celtic and Rangers, especially Rangers after their "goodwill" vist to VP in the mid 1970s.
I always followed Meadowbank Thistle results myself.
Then they changed their name to Livingston and moved to the town where SKY have their call centre, so now thats another scottish team I hate.
You should become a Clyde fan. "Oh the Clyde, the Clyde, the Bully Wee Clyde, the name of them fills us and fills us with pride".
Watch as we try to arrest an alarming tumble down the divisions (difficult to get worse as there's no further relegation) and get back in to the promised land of the Socttish First Division.
Oh and what were you doing in Cumbernauld?? A God awful soulless place.
Does them being knocked out of the CL mean they are now in the Europa or is them out of Europe altogether before the season begins ??
Quote from: "ADVILLAFAN"Quote from: "Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air".
I drove past the Broadwood Stadium earlier today.
And what an utterly soulless place it is. Stuck in a land of new estates and roundabouts, you don't even pass a pub on the 20 minute+ walk from the station.
Saw a remarkably dull game there against Partick Thistle the other year.
My favourite part of the day was when we saw a "No ball games" sign on the outside of one of the stands as we walked out of the ground. Thought that summed it up perfectly. Though to be fair to Clyde, Broadwood's not a great deal worse than grounds like Hamilton and Airdrie.
My German team MSV Duisburg currently have a player rejoicing in the name of Burakcan Kunt on their books. I'm going to encourage them to sign Fanni to add to what's shaping up to be a promising rude XI.
Loads of Norwich build up on SSN all day, including interviews with Delia Smith and a tour of their club shop.
Hilarious that they lost.
Quote from: "Chipsticks"Loads of Norwich build up on SSN all day, including interviews with Delia Smith and a tour of their club shop.
Hilarious that they lost.
was she wankered again?
Interesting I think to see St Mary's down at Southampton with large gaps on the terraces. Obviously it is holiday time but this is a team much fancied to top Division 1 and I think it is quite telling to see the size of the crowd. I fancy we could see some significant drops in attendances this year...
Quote from: "toronto villa"Quote from: "Chipsticks"Loads of Norwich build up on SSN all day, including interviews with Delia Smith and a tour of their club shop.
Hilarious that they lost.
was she wankered again?
That was once, and anyway there was nowt wrong with it. Delia's a legend.
Bugger Clyde now two one
Quote from: "eamonn"Quote from: "toronto villa"Quote from: "Chipsticks"Loads of Norwich build up on SSN all day, including interviews with Delia Smith and a tour of their club shop.
Hilarious that they lost.
was she wankered again?
That was once, and anyway there was nowt wrong with it. Delia's a legend.
legend? really?&feature=related
**snigger**
Now Sandman, that's a bit harsh.
It's Evil Leeds, Fairly Beastly Millwall.
Fantastic game. Spurs could easily be 5 up.
No easing into the season for these two then, the pace of the game has been unrelenting.Spurs looked like a proper top 4 side towards the end of last season. Today they've picked up where they left off - without the goals, obviously.
Watching the pace of this game worries me just how far behind we may be now.
But goals are the important bit. Doesn't matter how fancy or boring you play, if you can't score you won't win.You don't say! (winky)
Man Citeh and Spuds were both crap today... spuds given all the chances they could of wished for and couldn't put away one of them, Man Citeh created virtually zero chances. Neither will make the top 4.
Man Citeh and Spuds were both crap today... spuds given all the chances they could of wished for and couldn't put away one of them, Man Citeh created virtually zero chances. Neither will make the top 4.
One game of the season gone, two clubs written off. Good grief.
Well, Spurs have bought no-one and have not strengthened and even if they do qualify for Champions League I cannot for the life of me see how they will prioritise both the league and playing in Champions League where 'onest 'arry is going to have a conumdrum each week deciding who needs to rest etc... They might as well have a crack at Champions League considering it's there first time playing in it for 49 years; it'd be a shame if 'arry did ''A Moscow'' with Spurs.
Man Citeh... well, I don't know where to start with them. They can buy all the superstars they like, if every single player in that team of 11 isn't working in a system they all feel comfortable together they just won't get 4th. They're a team of individuals and names right now, to be a team all 11 players need be doing the same thing as a team and look like a team. They're getting into a vicious cycle where if one set of 'superstars' don't perform or aren't deemed good enough, they'll just go out and buy more superstars thinking that'll make everything better... along with getting a new manager. It's not about the players, it's about how they play in a team, as a system that has stragergies and has a manager who can click it all into place. You can't just expect to buy new players all the time and keep chopping and changing the team with new superstars and expect it to work in a flash. They have no stability.
I've just seen Wolves first goal. Very good Free kick, didn't Draper do something similar for us in 95?Yup, against Peterborough in the League Cup I think.
I've just seen Wolves first goal. Very good Free kick, didn't Draper do something similar for us in 95?Yup, against Peterborough in the League Cup I think.
I've just seen Wolves first goal. Very good Free kick, didn't Draper do something similar for us in 95?
Joe Cole sent off on his debut. Not the best of tackles but possibly harsh. Still, its Liverpool so its funny.
Joe Cole sent off on his debut. Not the best of tackles but possibly harsh. Still, its Liverpool so its funny.
Joe Cole sent off, Arsenal's new £10m defender Koscielny stretchered off. That'll make it a fiery 2nd half.
Joe Cole sent off on his debut. Not the best of tackles but possibly harsh. Still, its Liverpool so its funny.
Joe Cole sent off on his debut. Not the best of tackles but possibly harsh. Still, its Liverpool so its funny.
Joe Cole sent off, Arsenal's new £10m defender Koscielny stretchered off. That'll make it a fiery 2nd half.
Well we are better than both of these.
Having watched in back on MOTD2 I actually can't believe that Gerrard didn't get sent off. The yellow he did get was clear as day and no ref in the world could've justified not giving it but the one on eboue in the first half would've seen a yellow 99 times out of 100 as well, I guess Gerrard is allowed a free one at anfield though.
I'm amazed that Chelsea and Manure beat West Brom and Newcastle. Maybe next year Sky / ESPN will consider picking opening fixtures that might actually be competitive?
Blackpool & us?I'm amazed that Chelsea and Manure beat West Brom and Newcastle. Maybe next year Sky / ESPN will consider picking opening fixtures that might actually be competitive?
Have a guess what two teams are featured live again this weekend?
apparently it's a good time for Newcastle to play us, obviously the commentator didn't see us at the weekend.
I went to a 'other game' on saturday, Bramall Lane to see Sheffield United (who were shocking) against QPR (who look a good team). I was shocked to see that Richard Cresswell still finds employment as a footballer but Adel Taarabt of QPR is far too good a player to be playing in the Championship, he was brilliant to watch and has bags of skill including taking the piss out of the full back with a series of faints and stepovers that resulted in the inevitable foul and yellow card for the defender.
Joey Barton with a moustache looks like Peter Mandelson.
Joey Barton with a moustache looks like Peter Mandelson.
Reminded me of Phillipe Albert.
Spurs losing 1-0 could be 2 they hit the post just before the goal.
I love Young Boys!
How poor is Dawson..
I still think Spurs will win the home leg about 5-0 if they have to.
I still think Spurs will win the home leg about 5-0 if they have to.
I'm out of Young Boys puns. I'm too busy dying of laughter.
Harry has the reddest face I've ever seen. Do you think he might 'av a word at HT?
There defence is comical. I hope we don't sell them Davies this summer.
spurs were bound to stick one in when playing with the young boys.
For the second half we should acknowedge that Spurs are playing this match at the (Stade de Suisse) Wankdorf stadium.
Spurs are going to get themselves back into this.
So Spurs don't get into the Europa League but Celtic who failed to get through the previous round do?
Surely that's not right.
So Spurs don't get into the Europa League but Celtic who failed to get through the previous round do?
Surely that's not right.
No they drop to the Europa league!
Just seen Pavlechenko's goal - some strike !!
Americans know about the Swiss outfit? Marvellous. Blatter must be proud of himself.Just seen Pavlechenko's goal - some strike !!It was but he needed to atone for his hospital ball that led to the second Boyz II Men goal.
So Spurs don't get into the Europa League but Celtic who failed to get through the previous round do?
Surely that's not right.
No they drop to the Europa league!
Oh ok, when did that change?
I want Spurs to go through, can't see what so many people have against them. They finished fourth fair and square by picking up great results at the end of the season, maybe did the league a favour in keeping City out for at least a season, have a lot of good young players and play decent football.
Also if they can get in and do reasonably well I'd feel a lot more confident about our chances.
I dislike Spurs fans too; infact I've only come across 1 Spurs fan who actually seemed 'normal' and a nice person who didn't big up Spurs constantly, saying how great they are in the classic arrogant and cocky swagger. I met this 1 guy last year in a pub genuinely thinking Spurs would win the league just because they were top of the league after 1 or 2 games... embarrassing. I always enjoy knocking them down a peg or two when I tell them Villa are a more succesful club than Spurs and that there 2 UEFA Cups have nothing on our European Cup ;)I want Spurs to go through, can't see what so many people have against them. They finished fourth fair and square by picking up great results at the end of the season, maybe did the league a favour in keeping City out for at least a season, have a lot of good young players and play decent football.
Also if they can get in and do reasonably well I'd feel a lot more confident about our chances.
I really hate spurs fans they are so arrogant and every time i speak to one they always try too cunger up a reason as too why they are a bigger club than us, always reffering to us winning the EC
watching the goals on ssn today, a cracking og by an Anderlecht defender. Left foot volley into the top corner. Quality strike :D
Was in the kebab shop when Cole missed the pen. They went mental - bigger portions all round.
Balotelli has scored. It turns out £300m-odd on players might just buy you an away victory at FC Timisoara.Do we really want to pick at that thread?
Balotelli has scored. It turns out £300m-odd on players might just buy you an away victory at FC Timisoara.Do we really want to pick at that thread?
Balotelli stretchered off apparently.
Balotelli stretchered off apparently.
Just been out for a meal with my wife and may Dad. Come back in and turned to the Liverpool game and a pen to Liverpool. As soon as they said Joe Cole had picked up the ball I have never wanted someone to miss a penalty more. Ha ha ha.
Also the quality of the broadcast might have been a bit shit for our match but at least we didn't have Clive Fuckin Tydsley commentating on it.
Shit scores so far.Not anymore... Super Stoke just equalised :)
At last a decent score. Wet Spam losing.
From Marcus, Goodison Park, via text: "Everton - absolute joke today... to have that much possession and not score at least three, just embarrassing. Why in God's name are we thinking of a top four finish when we can't even beat Wolves?! Beckford isn't up to Prem standard yet, so Saha needs to start."
Good ground Dave?
Yeah, Chelsea would never ever thrash us, would they?
Why are you lot so bothered about Blues...they are not fit to live with us, never have been and never will be. Let them exist peacfully in their own pig sty.
I couldn't understand a word any of their supporters said.
Why are you lot so bothered about Blues...they are not fit to live with us, never have been and never will be. Let them exist peacfully in their own pig sty.
God I hate them, but fucking hell, Chelsea are good.
6-0 sort of results are bad for the standard of League PL aspires to be.
6-0 sort of results are bad for the standard of League PL aspires to be.
I've been thinking that - as I was when Chelsea were scoring for fun (including, unfortunately, against us) last season.
How often do Carewe score seven?You must be joking.
Milner starts for Man City, playing wide in a front three.
Such a waste*
*I reserve the right to edit this post in the event of a Milner-inspired Man City victory.
come on the pool, mascerhanoonooonnoo ( cant spell ) knee high tackle, milner out till january :-)He isnt playing, he refused.
come on the pool, mascerhanoonooonnoo ( cant spell ) knee high tackle, milner out till january :-)
he gonna have a mare, city were never gonna win this... 3 holding midfielders at home ??
This is turning out to be a grim couple of days.
hate to say it but quite impressed with city so far - 6 english lads in their line up as well, which surprised me
It's been a bad couple of days to be a Villa fan and to see those two in City tops is making me sick to the pit of my stomach. Like watching your best mate smashing the granny out of your Mrs.....
:( Gutted
It's been a bad couple of days to be a Villa fan and to see those two in City tops is making me sick to the pit of my stomach. Like watching your best mate smashing the granny out of your Mrs.....
:( Gutted
Sums up how depressed I am. never thought I would be cheering on Liverpool to the extent that I am right now....
It's been a bad couple of days to be a Villa fan and to see those two in City tops is making me sick to the pit of my stomach. Like watching your best mate smashing the granny out of your Mrs.....
:( Gutted
Sums up how depressed I am. never thought I would be cheering on Liverpool to the extent that I am right now....
Yes, for probably the first time ever, I want the Bindippers to win. Did I mistakenly hear the commentator say something about Carragher being an intelligent lad. I'm sure I must have misheard as only a moron would think that?
What ever is the opposite of icing on the cake then that goal was it.
Despite the efforts of Mr Lerner I honestly think this is the final straw for me. It's just happened far too many times now, this stings beyond belief.
I'm sure a lot of people think I'm being a bit of a drama queen but somebody else mentioned Yorke. That's Yorke, Barry and Milner. ARGUABLY the three best players for Villa since the formation of the Premier League. What's the point if we can't compete anymore???
What ever is the opposite of icing on the cake then that goal was it.
The shit on the mad cow burger?
Even with Torres and Gerrard in their side, Liverpool look a million miles behind Man City, never mind the likes of us and Everton. I've a sneaky feeling this will be Stevie G's final season at Anfield, especially if they don't get a Champions League place.
Compare and contrast Milner's and Ireland's debuts for their new clubs...
Despite the efforts of Mr Lerner I honestly think this is the final straw for me. It's just happened far too many times now, this stings beyond belief.
I'm sure a lot of people think I'm being a bit of a drama queen but somebody else mentioned Yorke. That's Yorke, Barry and Milner. ARGUABLY the three best players for Villa since the formation of the Premier League. What's the point if we can't compete anymore???
Despite the efforts of Mr Lerner I honestly think this is the final straw for me. It's just happened far too many times now, this stings beyond belief.
I'm sure a lot of people think I'm being a bit of a drama queen but somebody else mentioned Yorke. That's Yorke, Barry and Milner. ARGUABLY the three best players for Villa since the formation of the Premier League. What's the point if we can't compete anymore???
YOu say that but at the end of the day it's business.
Two of those players came in for pretty much next to nothing and we sold them on for handsome profit. Milner was bought for £12m and three years later we sold him for £24m.
Look at other teams, even in recent seasons sell good players.
Spurs - Carrick, Berbatov, Keane, Defoe.
Man Utd - Ronaldo, Ince, Kanchelskis, Beckham before.
Arsenal - Anelka, err others.
Liverpool - Owen.
I think what's with the Villa is at times they haven't invested the significant cash obtained from the deals / thrown at them, correctly. Think Watson, Stone, Ginola, Balaban, Collymore, Thompson...
If we'd had a bit of nous about us in the early to mid years of the nineties then we'd be a formidable team now with a good Champions League pedigree.
Compare and contrast Milner's and Ireland's debuts for their new clubs...
I'd rather not
They are going to win the league according to Gobby. If they are in with a shout in January they will just go out and buy several more world class players. Correct me if I'm wrong but how many World class players have they actually bought. Tevez is one I will count.
Yaya Toure was probably one of the best defensive midfielders when at Barcalona, he could be a maybe.
Thing is how many world class players actually ply there trade in the premiership? Its a description that gets banded about too much by the pundits. I think they have got a lot of able players that on paper should do very well in our league.
At the risk of tempting fate, sounds like Oxford are playing well against West Ham.
You missed a cracker tonight, Eamonn - Sevilla 3 - Braga 4.
I can't think of many things to make the current football situation more miserable than it is, but Spurs reaching the group stages would do it.Yeah, everything does seem doom and gloom at the moment but it'd be hilarious watching spuds getting tonked 6-0 away to Barca which would probably happen.
Harry doesn't fancy Cudicini much does he?
I think Spurs will win this going away. 1-0 up, two away goals and they are good at home anyway. Watching them in home games is how I would want us to play at VP. Which is why West Ham, (seems ages ago now) was such a treat.
I can't think of many things to make the current football situation more miserable than it is, but Spurs reaching the group stages would do it.Yeah, everything does seem doom and gloom at the moment but it'd be hilarious watching spuds getting tonked 6-0 away to Barca which would probably happen.
I can't think of many things to make the current football situation more miserable than it is, but Spurs reaching the group stages would do it.Yeah, everything does seem doom and gloom at the moment but it'd be hilarious watching spuds getting tonked 6-0 away to Barca which would probably happen.
Not really the most sensible of piss takes that is it mate, taking into account Aston Villa's showing at Newcastle United last Sunday afternoon ???
If Spurs weren't from London no-one would actually give a shit about them and they'd be considered about as big as Blackburn.
Yes, but would there be a massive media wankfest about the mighty totnumb like there has been in recent years if they were not from London? I highly doubt it. Just imagine the hype and media attention Villa would get if we were from London?QuoteIf Spurs weren't from London no-one would actually give a shit about them and they'd be considered about as big as Blackburn.
I think your description above applies more to West Ham than Spurs.
I'm no Spurs fan at all ( I fucking hate em, in fact) but their fanbase is at least as big as Villa's
Trabzonspor winning 1-0 already lol.
Have'nt got a problem with if Spuds are bigger than us or not, the trouble is they generally act bigger than us.
Have'nt got a problem with if Spuds are bigger than us or not, the trouble is they generally act bigger than us.
One difference is that if they lose their manager, they're debating whether they should go for Mourinho or Hiddink (regardless of whether they have a chance of getting them, that's not the point).
When we lose ours, lots of us are boohooing about how the best we can get is a Curbishley level appointment / Bob Bradley might be worth a shot / Jol would never come here / maybe Allardyce would like it.
*some tedious bollocks which has been deleted*
To rub salt in the wounds the fuckin noses won as well. Jesus I'm depressed.Winning 3-2 against a League 2 team is nothing for them to feel particulary proud about... it was the fact that 4000 (yes, four thousand) turned up to the sty! We might be in minor crisis at the moment, but boy, the noses will always give us something for us to laugh at them.
To rub salt in the wounds the fuckin noses won as well. Jesus I'm depressed.
90 Liverpool fans went to Trabzonspor.
Arse winning. The worst week in football history continues. I hope it doesn't become the worst month.
I see /Yam-Yam/ Ebonks Blake /Yam-Yam/ has Dingleompton one up. Good says I . May they smash those faux Scottish bastards into next week.
Did the Spurs fans boo?Yeah, I heard them booing at full time on Soccer Saturday.
My Luton supporting mate isn't too happy either Dave!
The footballing gods return from their holiday evidently as Spurs lose. They are a good side but nothing like what they are hyped up to be and so these sorts of results will always be on the cards for them. Bale has been excellent for them this season but they're really not that great when you disect them man for man, particularly as their team is full of typically over-rated english players. Oh how I laughed when I heard the result....Agreed, good times.
bolton 2 blose 2 bolton down to 10 keeper sent off
Those annoyed with Downing's reaction at the end of the Noocassle game keep an eye out for joe Hart's behaviour at the end of the Sunderland game. Double fist pump with Darren Bent and a big hug and pat on the back. Once the game is over, players just don't retain the same animosity many of us do.
The sight of Habib Beye and his 'glamour model' female partner loading up his Ferrari (I think) 45 minutes after the final whistle also reminded me just how far removed from the fans players now are.
Yes, I think it was black. Not too sure tho as was getting hassled (rightly) by a steward to move my Dad's car as it meant they couldn't get the gates open to release the Everton team coach.Those annoyed with Downing's reaction at the end of the Noocassle game keep an eye out for joe Hart's behaviour at the end of the Sunderland game. Double fist pump with Darren Bent and a big hug and pat on the back. Once the game is over, players just don't retain the same animosity many of us do.
The sight of Habib Beye and his 'glamour model' female partner loading up his Ferrari (I think) 45 minutes after the final whistle also reminded me just how far removed from the fans players now are.
Is that the one in Black Ferrari and foreign numberplate as I seen it twice this week.
Not a game but another team's player. The press certainly seem to have got it in for young Bebe at Man Utd haven't they? All these stories of him being offered around for half a watermelon and a can of ralgex with no takers and then Utd spunk £7m without seeing him play. He couldn't even make the reserve squad for a game this week. His debut should be interesting to see the reaction.
Not a game but another team's player. The press certainly seem to have got it in for young Bebe at Man Utd haven't they? All these stories of him being offered around for half a watermelon and a can of ralgex with no takers and then Utd spunk £7m without seeing him play. He couldn't even make the reserve squad for a game this week. His debut should be interesting to see the reaction.
Found this:
Position: Striker
Previous clubs: Loures (amateur 2001-2008), Estrela da Amadora (2009-10; 26 games, 4 goals), Vitoria de Guimaraes (2010; 7 friendlies, 4 goals).
That's not exactly a stellar goalscoring record.
Not a game but another team's player. The press certainly seem to have got it in for young Bebe at Man Utd haven't they? All these stories of him being offered around for half a watermelon and a can of ralgex with no takers and then Utd spunk £7m without seeing him play. He couldn't even make the reserve squad for a game this week. His debut should be interesting to see the reaction.
Found this:
Position: Striker
Previous clubs: Loures (amateur 2001-2008), Estrela da Amadora (2009-10; 26 games, 4 goals), Vitoria de Guimaraes (2010; 7 friendlies, 4 goals).
That's not exactly a stellar goalscoring record.
is this the modern George Weah's brother story?
Not a game but another team's player. The press certainly seem to have got it in for young Bebe at Man Utd haven't they? All these stories of him being offered around for half a watermelon and a can of ralgex with no takers and then Utd spunk £7m without seeing him play. He couldn't even make the reserve squad for a game this week. His debut should be interesting to see the reaction.
Found this:
Position: Striker
Previous clubs: Loures (amateur 2001-2008), Estrela da Amadora (2009-10; 26 games, 4 goals), Vitoria de Guimaraes (2010; 7 friendlies, 4 goals).
That's not exactly a stellar goalscoring record.
is this the modern George Weah's brother story?
No, apparently he is related to Nii Lamptey though....
Can't see it mentioned, but Albrighton has set one up and scored one for the U21s today. Good lad.
Can't see it mentioned, but Albrighton has set one up and scored one for the U21s today. Good lad.
Excellent. Bloke at work reckons he might end up replacing Milner in centre-mid. Interesting thought, long term, like.
Noted your correction paulie. Still well done.
My word Keys is being a right bell end tonight on sky
My word Keys is being a right bell end tonight on skyThe only bell end tonight on Sky Sports is Jamie ''I'm the son of a dodgy tax avoider and can't speak properly'' Redknapp. I can't believe a company as big as Sky employ retards like him... and a few others.
Scotland scraping past with a win against the football powerhouse that is err... Liechtenstien, a country that has a smaller population than the attendance at Hampden Park tonight. Umm... well, I guess it's an improvement for the jocks considering they couldn't beat another football powerhouse - the Faroe Islands.
What scared me was all the happy smiling faces from the scots in the stands to the players and coaching staff on the pitch. I hope those smiles were smiles of relief and not smiles of beating Liechtenstien...Scotland scraping past with a win against the football powerhouse that is err... Liechtenstien, a country that has a smaller population than the attendance at Hampden Park tonight. Umm... well, I guess it's an improvement for the jocks considering they couldn't beat another football powerhouse - the Faroe Islands.
That was hilarious to watch. What a bunch of moaning sour faces the Scots are. They were shockingly poor and utterly clueless and it was a delight to watch. Shame about the eventual result though.
Scotland scraping past with a win against the football powerhouse that is err... Liechtenstien, a country that has a smaller population than the attendance at Hampden Park tonight. Umm... well, I guess it's an improvement for the jocks considering they couldn't beat another football powerhouse - the Faroe Islands.
Heard the commentator's say that the Argies hadn't lost in that stadium for 15 years. Do they play all their home games there?
I like Moyes and all that, but his teams have made shocking starts every season for the last number of years. Once again they will have to come from way back in the table. 1 point from 4 games is horrible, and if he was here we'd be going mental at that. They are being outplayed by Man U who aren't having to work that hard and are without Rooney.
I like Moyes and all that, but his teams have made shocking starts every season for the last number of years. Once again they will have to come from way back in the table. 1 point from 4 games is horrible, and if he was here we'd be going mental at that. They are being outplayed by Man U who aren't having to work that hard and are without Rooney.
u spoke too soon im afraid........great comeback
Theoretically, Cahill should be very easy to defend against, just get a bigger guy to stand so close to him that he cant get a run at the ball, but he causes every team problems and he's got Everton a point there.
How has this got back to 3-3?
Theoretically, Cahill should be very easy to defend against, just get a bigger guy to stand so close to him that he cant get a run at the ball, but he causes every team problems and he's got Everton a point there.
surely if it was that simple someone would have figured it out by now. The fact is he is brilliant in the air, and he's quite a small man. His timing of his jumps is in my opinion amongst the best in the world. It's hard to defend against timing.
How has this got back to 3-3?
Everton scored twice from 3-1 down - obviously.
Chelses have conceded a goal
forgot to add whether the goading geordies (is there any other sort?) will be on this site again tonight?I don't think any cartoon fans are entitled to goad any opposing fans after they lose 2-0 to Blackpool at home. What was it they were singing ''You're not laughing anymore''? Yes I am!
Can see the headline wrtiers having fun with variants on "Wigan grateful for escape from Alcaraz" tomorrow.
I see the world beaters Man City and Tottenham draw against crap teams after they lost to crap teams two weeks ago which will send bluemoon and glory glory into experimental meltdown with threads of hatred saying Mancini should be sacked and that 'Arry can't be trusted. I wonder how many goals Werder Bremen are going to put past Tottenham's world class defence on Tuesday.Maybe as many as newly promoted Newcastle put past us?
I see the world beaters Man City and Tottenham draw against crap teams after they lost to crap teams two weeks ago which will send bluemoon and glory glory into experimental meltdown with threads of hatred saying Mancini should be sacked and that 'Arry can't be trusted. I wonder how many goals Werder Bremen are going to put past Tottenham's world class defence on Tuesday.Maybe as many as newly promoted Newcastle put past us?
The match came at the end of a week in which City had aired the premiere of a film called Blue Moon Rising in a tale about their travails last season when they agonisingly missed out on a Champions League place.
Watching Barca losing 2-0 at home to Hercules. Barca are so pedestrian, it's no wonder there's been absolutely no atmosphere despite Camp Nou being full.
Boring, boring, Barca..
Olofinjana, on loan to Cardiff from Hull, beat covering defender Anthony Gerrard, coincidentally on loan to Hull from Cardiff, to Whittingham's teasing in-swinging, right-wing free-kick.
Does it actually matter which club owns which player these days? From the match report of Cardiff vs Hull:QuoteOlofinjana, on loan to Cardiff from Hull, beat covering defender Anthony Gerrard, coincidentally on loan to Hull from Cardiff, to Whittingham's teasing in-swinging, right-wing free-kick.
So its not just us Bolton play their suicidly high back line against
Mancini's excuse for dropping points at home to Blackburn..... Were missing 6 important players haha
Mancini's excuse for dropping points at home to Blackburn..... Were missing 6 important players haha
Yes, that made me want to vomit.
Mancini is a really unlikeable type. I also reckon I've got about as much chance of being Man City manager come the start of next season as he has.
Spurs are going to find it very hard with Modric, Defoe and Dawson out for a while.
Who will play at centre back? King is made of glass, Woodgate isn't in their 25, Gallas always looks unfit and Bassong looks iffy to me.
Spurs are going to find it very hard with Modric, Defoe and Dawson out for a while.
Who will play at centre back? King is made of glass, Woodgate isn't in their 25, Gallas always looks unfit and Bassong looks iffy to me.
you know when football managers talk about problems that are 'nice problems to have'. I dont think this is a good example
Spurs are going to find it very hard with Modric, Defoe and Dawson out for a while.
Who will play at centre back? King is made of glass, Woodgate isn't in their 25, Gallas always looks unfit and Bassong looks iffy to me.
you know when football managers talk about problems that are 'nice problems to have'. I dont think this is a good example
Have they still got Kaboul?
Blues v Dippers today.
Who do you want to win?
Blues v Dippers today.
Who do you want to win?
Blues v Dippers today.
Who do you want to win?
Blues v Dippers today.
Who do you want to win?
Bore draw written all over it.Rags all over Liverpool. I've only just noticed Gerrard is playing. Who has you can't polish a turd?
Liverpool were awful.
Over the last couple of years they've featured in more of the most boring games I've seen than any other club.
Seven consecutive draws now between that pair. A new record apparently.
you all should have watched the cricket :)
It's in their diary for 2011.
Seven consecutive draws now between that pair. A new record apparently.
Maybe there should be some kind of limited edition commemorative plate to mark the historic occasion
Seven consecutive draws now between that pair. A new record apparently.
Maybe there should be some kind of limited edition commemorative plate to mark the historic occasion
It beat the previous record of six. Between Aston Villa and West Ham United.
Early days but looking to me the top 3 are still easily a cut above the rest and below third it will be very open this season.
Early days but looking to me the top 3 are still easily a cut above the rest and below third it will be very open this season.
Top two for definite. Although Berbatov is finally looking like a £20 mil pound striker, at the moment everything good is coming through Scholes. They can't rely on a 34yo all season. And away from home they have let in silly last minute goals and dropped four points so far against opposition they should be beating.
Top two for definite. Although Berbatov is finally looking like a £20 mil pound striker, at the moment everything good is coming through Scholes. They can't rely on a 34yo all season. And away from home they have let in silly last minute goals and dropped four points so far against opposition they should be beating.
United are a completey different team without Ronaldo. You genuinely feared for your lives when you played Man United with Ronaldo because you know he could completely destroy your defence whenever he wanted to with him being their best player. Now, they don't look that good at all and does anyone fear them as much - relying on 35 and 36 year old players doesn't leave you quaking in your boots (albeit their veterans are still good players).
Can we have a vote on who is the more tedious to watch, Small Heath or Liverpool?
Organised is about the only positive way to describe either of these dullards.
Liverpool look anything but organised at the back. Skertel is a donkey and that's against the might of Jerome. Glen Johnston £18 million, I just don't see it.
If Chelsea look like they've won it by christmas, the other 'top 4' sides could start to fall to bits. I'm thinking particularly of Arsenal.
Sadly the noses look too solid to go down.
Spurs playing well 0 - 2 up......all I can see is Van Der Vaart playing brilliantly and thinking Mr Lerner/Faulkner spent the same amount of money on Stephen Ireland !!!!!!!
Spurs playing well 0 - 2 up......all I can see is Van Der Vaart playing brilliantly and thinking Mr Lerner/Faulkner spent the same amount of money on Stephen Ireland !!!!!!!
So?
We both got a good player but ours is younger.
Is it just me or are Tottenham only playing 45 mins of every match so far this season? Is this some ploy by 'Arry to keep his team fresh for the challenge of CL and PL football?I know what you mean, but we didn't exactly give it the beans for 90 minutes last night or at Newcastle.
Is it just me or are Tottenham only playing 45 mins of every match so far this season? Is this some ploy by 'Arry to keep his team fresh for the challenge of CL and PL football?I know what you mean, but we didn't exactly give it the beans for 90 minutes last night or at Newcastle.
I just get frustrated when I see Spurs going to places like Bremen and getting a creditable draw while we're going to Newcastle and Stoke and losing. Kind of makes me wonder whether at some point in the last four years we haven't missed a golden opportunity, through not quite being bold enough when it really mattered.
The way young players are hyped up in England I'm surprised he hasn't got even more coverage than he has.Really? I can't remember any young English player hyped as much since Rooney.
I was very impressed with Arsenal last night. They really took Braga apart. Whisper it but Arsenal may have finally grown a pair. They're not looking such a soft touch, as least not on last nights performance.
Some utter cock texted Five Live after the game saying "Fabregas is God's own chess piece". That doesn't even make sense.
[Roy Keane got in a tizzy about the pawn sandwich brigade at OTSome utter cock texted Five Live after the game saying "Fabregas is God's own chess piece". That doesn't even make sense.
What a tw*t. He obviously doesn't know the names of the pieces.
Sir Stanley Matthews was the only genuine Knight who played football, although Alan Knight played about a billion games for Portsmouth.
Ian Bishop played for Man City and West Ham
Everton's Andy King got a League Cup runners up medal in 1977 and Marlon King is a rather controversial figure at present on account of his checkered past.
All those are off the top of my head, but a quick search on Wiki has uncovered Ronnie Rooke, who played for Arsenal in the forties.
I must be board...
You're spot on about Fabregas which makes it so funny watching him, as he really doesn't want to be at Arsenal. The Man of the Match last night was without doubt Arshavin. He ran the show.I was very impressed with Arsenal last night. They really took Braga apart. Whisper it but Arsenal may have finally grown a pair. They're not looking such a soft touch, as least not on last nights performance.
Perhaps, there's still too much bloody fawning over them though. Some utter cock texted Five Live after the game saying "Fabregas is God's own chess piece". That doesn't even make sense.
Still think they're a bunch of flat-track bullies. Hope so anyway as I can't bear Wenger.
1-0 to Chelsea after 1m13s of the game.
Double figures perhaps?
Why am I even watching this?
Double figures perhaps?
I am sitting next to an Ipswich Town supporter who is willing it to happen.
If this were boxing the ref would have stopped it...half an hour in.
The most competitive league in the world this.
4-0
Great! We're back in 8th now.
This is getting embarrassing, in terms of the difference in quality.Just wait til they play us ;)
This is getting embarrassing, in terms of the difference in quality.Just wait til they play us ;)
Anyone just see the Bet365 advert with professional cockney Ray "bet on evryfink - gahls, cawnaz, ver full tahm risahlt" Winstone? They're doing Chelsea to win 10-1, 40-1.
Anyone just see the Bet365 advert with professional cockney Ray "bet on evryfink - gahls, cawnaz, ver full tahm risahlt" Winstone? They're doing Chelsea to win 10-1, 40-1.
Harewood's coming on.
I'll have a bet on him saying 'you caaaannnnnnt'Anyone just see the Bet365 advert with professional cockney Ray "bet on evryfink - gahls, cawnaz, ver full tahm risahlt" Winstone? They're doing Chelsea to win 10-1, 40-1.
can I bet on Ray Fackin Winstone annoying the piss out of me?
BrontaHarewoodsaurus has come on.Message for Jeff Goldblum and Sam Neill - Run for it!
No rivalry. Just that Ipswich lost 9-0 to Man Utd in 1995.Is there a big rivalry between them and Blackpool? Why?Double figures perhaps?I am sitting next to an Ipswich Town supporter who is willing it to happen.
No, I couldn't be less bothered about another hyped-up London derby. Sunderland West Ham just got interesting - Piquionne's put WHU ahead.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/21/article-1314052-0B4AD5C5000005DC-468_634x360.jpg)
I'm assuming that's Lee Hughes?
First half of Spurs v Arsenal was fantastic to watch. If Houllier can nurture our team to pass the ball anything like that it would be a revelation ..............
First half of Spurs v Arsenal was fantastic to watch. If Houllier can nurture our team to pass the ball anything like that it would be a revelation ..............
Half an hour of that sort of football from us somewhere, anywhere this season would be a revelation. Just beautiful to watch..
I have to wonder if David Moyes is losing the plot. His team is off to another horrific start to the season, he's got nothing to spend, and every time you watch him now he's in a fit of uncontrollable rage. I know a few us wouldn't have minded him here, but his act is getting a little old.
I just thought it was funny that Beckford didn't even score from a penalty. Take that Coopers.
I just thought it was funny that Beckford didn't even score from a penalty. Take that Coopers.
Bizarrely, that's pretty much the same thing I thought when I saw that last night.
I just thought it was funny that Beckford didn't even score from a penalty. Take that Coopers.
Bizarrely, that's pretty much the same thing I thought when I saw that last night.
Everytime I see/hear about Darren Backford I think of Coopers' Injury. Unbelievable.
Has someone changed the wordfilter?
I really hate Villadawg FC Hotspur.
On Beckford: He really has been a crap signing for them. He has been awful so far.
EDIT: It would appear so...
Everytime I see/hear about Darren Backford I think of Coopers' Injury. Unbelievable.
Liverpool 1, Northampton 2.
Ha! Ha! Ha!
Redscouse can't laugh at the BlueScouse anymore.They were
At home as well. Anyone know if the pens were in front of the Kop. Would be extra funny.
Redscouse can't laugh at the BlueScouse anymore.They were
At home as well. Anyone know if the pens were in front of the Kop. Would be extra funny.
And yes, you did hear it, Man City fans were singing theres only one greedy bastard.
Hahaha!
Stupid Baggies just missed a penalty against the Arse. ha ha.
Erm..because Barry was off the pitch at the time?Stupid Baggies just missed a penalty against the Arse. ha ha.
Why didn't Dorrans take the penalty down at Arsenal?
That surely wasn't a bit of booing from They Who Art Moste Loyal, the fans of Liverpool? I thought they never booed because they have too much 'class' apparently.
Bloody hell, the Baggies ahead at Arsenal.0-2 now. The World's going mad
If I were a betting man I'd still fancy the Albion to fuck it up.
3-0 Baggies.
whatever we think of the stripey's this is a fabulous result. Massive credit to Di Matteo for having a real go and for the players for pulling this off.
Game over at Arsenal.
I imagine 6-0-6 will be dominated by Albion, Liverpool and Arsenal fans tonight.
Congrats West Brom.No chance will they go down, they never lose at home, 18 games now.
lol @ spuds.
lol @ small heath... 1 win in 6 games - that's relegation form. Hopefully those bastards go down again this season.
whatever we think of the stripey's this is a fabulous result. Massive credit to Di Matteo for having a real go and for the players for pulling this off.
Three jammy goals and eleven behind the ball for ninety minutes. I've no evidence to support that view but I find it hard to give the bastards any credit.
Today's results only really serve two masters: Man Utd and the Premier League. Anyone who thought Chelsea would (be allowed to) win today is in cloudcuckooland.I'm fairly sure it's just because they didn't manage to score more goals than the team they were playing rather than any shadowy conspiracy.
Haha, Wenger storms off down the tunnel with a face like a dog's arse. No doubt they were kicked off the pitch for 95 minutes and weren't allowed to play their normal pretty-if-unsuccessful game. The man's a complete arsehole.Albion played very well and deserved all 3 points. For the second week ruuning, I've been inpressed with them. Matteo has done a great job there. They all look so comfortable on the ball. Won't be too long before somebody comes calling for him.
Dare I say this, but congratulations to Brum City for not losing at home for a whole year.I bet it feels bigger than finishing 9th for them... bless.
That's quite an achievement regardless of who they are.
The fixtures of the teams that we are hoping/expecting to compete with for places are:
West Ham vs Spuds
Man City vs Chelsea
Fulham vs Everton
Liverpool vs Sunderland
I reckon all could drop points and have a feeling that Spurs will lose to West Ham. Unfortunately i think that Man City will beat Chelsea as Chelsk have lost momentum following the CC defeat with a decent side out. I reckon the other two will finish draws.
Credit to WBA.
What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
Been pretty impressed with the Baggies so far this season... Di Matteo looks relaxed, but in control and seems to know what he's doing. He's addressed their main problem which was to buy a goal scorer - something they haven't really had in previous seasons in the Premier League which was probably the main reason they got relegated. Hopefully they can stay up as I don't really mindQuoteWest Brom... sensible set of fanswho aren't scumbags like Stoke, Wolves and small heath fans.
The fixtures of the teams that we are hoping/expecting to compete with for places are:
West Ham vs Spuds
Man City vs Chelsea
Fulham vs Everton
Liverpool vs Sunderland
I reckon all could drop points and have a feeling that Spurs will lose to West Ham. Unfortunately i think that Man City will beat Chelsea as Chelsk have lost momentum following the CC defeat with a decent side out. I reckon the other two will finish draws.
And tonights lottery numbers are?
What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
Yes they do.What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
No they don't.
Yes they do.What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
No they don't.
Yes they do.What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
No they don't.
No, they really don't.
Yes they do.What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
No they don't.
No, they really don't.
Why not? Is this just personal hatred?
Yes, they really do. Any team that comes up from the Championship and beats Arsenal @ their stadium deserves praise. I don't understand why you're being so immature, they beat Arseal, people will give them praise for their great victory. End of.Yes they do.What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
No they don't.
No, they really don't.
Yes they do.What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
No they don't.
No, they really don't.
Why not? Is this just personal hatred?
Yep.
Yes, they really do. Any team that comes up from the Championship and beats Arsenal @ their stadium deserves praise. I don't understand why you're being so immature, they beat Arseal, people will give them praise for their great victory. End of.Yes they do.What? West Brom got a great win @ the Emirates today against Arsenal... they deserve praise.Credit to WBA.
No.
No they don't.
No, they really don't.
Yes, they really do. Any team that comes up from the Championship and beats Arsenal @ their stadium deserves praise. I don't understand why you're being so immature, they beat Arseal, people will give them praise for their great victory. End of.
Why do you have such a problem with West Brom... they're just another crap team to me who yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship. Most Villa fans don't even have a problem with West Brom, we don't even have a proper rivalry with them like we do with small heath where there is genuine nastiness between both sets of fans. Out of all the teams in the West Mids, West Brom are the only team I don't really have a problem with... Stoke, blose and the Dogheads are far more dislikable.
You can keep up this nonsense about not praising West Brom for beating Arsenal as much as you like, it doesn't change the fact they're a promoted team and got a fantastic result yesterday and deserve the praise they get. Even Wenger praised them quite highly...
Why do you have such a problem with West Brom... they're just another crap team to me who yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship. Most Villa fans don't even have a problem with West Brom, we don't even have a proper rivalry with them like we do with small heath where there is genuine nastiness between both sets of fans. Out of all the teams in the West Mids, West Brom are the only team I don't really have a problem with... Stoke, blose and the Dogheads are far more dislikable.
You can keep up this nonsense about not praising West Brom for beating Arsenal as much as you like, it doesn't change the fact they're a promoted team and got a fantastic result yesterday and deserve the praise they get. Even Wenger praised them quite highly...
Err, I did not once tell you who you should and shouldn't like... all I said was that Villa fans assoicate their local rival with small heath in general... West Brom's main rival is Wolves and that's their biggest derby, so how can Villa's 'proper rival' be West Brom lolwut?Why do you have such a problem with West Brom... they're just another crap team to me who yo-yo between the Premier League and Championship. Most Villa fans don't even have a problem with West Brom, we don't even have a proper rivalry with them like we do with small heath where there is genuine nastiness between both sets of fans. Out of all the teams in the West Mids, West Brom are the only team I don't really have a problem with... Stoke, blose and the Dogheads are far more dislikable.
You can keep up this nonsense about not praising West Brom for beating Arsenal as much as you like, it doesn't change the fact they're a promoted team and got a fantastic result yesterday and deserve the praise they get. Even Wenger praised them quite highly...
And who exactly are you to tell me who I should and shouldn't like? Actually, we do have a 'proper' rivalry with them and it goes back about a hundred years longer than the one we have with Blues.
Err, I did not once tell you who you should and shouldn't like... all I said was that Villa fans assoicate their local rival with small heath in general... West Brom's main rival is Wolves and that's their biggest derby, so how can Villa's 'proper rival' be West Brom lolwut?
In North B'ham (some of my family is from Great Barr btw) Villa fans tend to have more of a dislike towards West Brom than the rest of Villa fans from Birmingham like pauliewalnuts said, ask any West Brom fan who their main local rival is and they will say Wolves, just like if you asked any Villa fan the same question they'd responsed with small heath.
Whether you like West Brom or not, I don't really care, to say they don't deserve any praise after their fantastic win yesterday is a bit silly really. If Birmingham City beat any of the top 4 away last season I would of given them credit too regardless that they're our local rivals.
I would guess that it's about a 50/50 split between us and the dogheads who smethwick fans hate the most. Most around 40+ will probably go with us, most under will probably go with the dogheads.
The shift from us being their main rival is simply due to a generation of them never getting the chance to lose to us.
@Dave; I don't wanna argue with you because I enjoy reading Heroes and Villans but the general concensus among Villa fans is that we consider Birmingham City our main local rivals... like it or not, I don't know any of my Villa supporting mates who put West Brom before Birmingham in terms of rivalry, even my father who grew up in the generation where West Brom were once considered our main local rival has a big dislike for small heath, I don't think I've actually ever heard talk in an abusive way towards West Brom. And yes, he also commented yesterday on what a great result it was for West Brom...
A few have already said earlier in this thread that they don't really mind West Brom, but ask them how they feel about Birmingham City...
Christ.
I was just thinking earlier that MOTD2 is miles better than MOTD then they do all this quirky shit like wine wasting and people singing the theme tune.
What shite.
Somewhat disturbing to see the "@person'sname" form of replying to someone used on here for the first time, too.
Somewhat disturbing to see the "@person'sname" form of replying to someone used on here for the first time, too.
... the general concensus among Villa fans is that we consider Birmingham City our main local rivals... like it or not, I don't know any of my Villa supporting mates who put West Brom before Birmingham in terms of rivalry, even my father who grew up in the generation where West Brom were once considered our main local rival has a big dislike for small heath, I don't think I've actually ever heard talk him in an abusive way towards West Brom. And yes, he also commented yesterday on what a great result it was for West Brom...
A few have already said earlier in this thread that they don't really mind West Brom, but ask them how they feel about Birmingham City...
I'm just gonna leave it at that, sorry if congratulating West Brom on their great win yesterday annoys you so much.
Small Heath lost 6-4 to Swindon after being 4-1 up. I was at a match but can't remember which one.
I think we can all agree Leeds are wankers of the highest order. Were four one up. Now Leeds 4 Preston 6!
Am I a bad person for hoping Spurs pick up lots of injuries tonight? And lose 6-0.now thats what im talking about
Been quite impressed with Valencia's left back Jeremy Mathieu so far. Looks like the kind of player who'd do well in the Prem.
Just switched the Man Yoo one off. Tedious. Where are the fans as well?
One of the worst performances from a group if officials I've seen. Astonishingly bad.
Thought we'd beat Spurs on sat. Now I don't. They are too lucky for us.
Did I hear Chiles say something along the lines, regarding the Man United fans, 'they here by hook or by crook'?
It's Valencia, in Spain. It's not difficult.
Manure were lucky. Good good goal but Valencia should have scored.
^^^^^
Sorry, I didn't realise that.
Must pay more attention.
Thought we'd beat Spurs on sat. Now I don't. They are too lucky for us.
^^^^^
Sorry, I didn't realise that.
Must pay more attention.
Tut tut ...I thought girls never missed anything and can do more than 3 things at a time!
Did Chiles present daybreak this morning?
Mancs Robbed by Old Lady
Mancs Robbed by Old Lady
You should be a journalist.
Sky were at the Blues when and they were singing Wipe that Snot behind Kamara and Everton then scored. Most of the fans didn't even react but one Knuckle Dragger went balistic. I believe this is another new entry into the Comedy Moments thread.
Makes wanna cry, we bought Downing Instead of Johnson.
De Jong broke Ben Arfa's leg with what was a horrific challenge by all accounts.
Liverpool losing.
Somewhere, O'Neill rubs his greasy hands together.
Liverpool losing.
Somewhere, O'Neill rubs his greasy hands together.
I bet he's sat watching it, decked out from head to toe in tangerine.
Liverpool losing.
Somewhere, O'Neill rubs his greasy hands together.
Liverpool losing.
Somewhere, O'Neill rubs his greasy hands together.
I bet he's sat watching it, decked out from head to toe in tangerine.
Collymore's going ballistic about this De Jong challenge on Ben Arfa. I haven' seen it, was it as bad as he says it was?
6-0-6 should be fun tonight.
Not just very funny!
I had money on Blackpool to win this at 10-1, just had a sneaky feeling they would win against a very out of form bindippers
Not just very funny!
I had money on Blackpool to win this at 10-1, just had a sneaky feeling they would win against a very out of form bindippers
It's vulgar to ask how much you had on this - but how much did you have on this?
This result is the funniest thing that's happened in a good long while.
Not just very funny!
I had money on Blackpool to win this at 10-1, just had a sneaky feeling they would win against a very out of form bindippers
It's vulgar to ask how much you had on this - but how much did you have on this?
This result is the funniest thing that's happened in a good long while.
"Only" a fiver Monty! So a very nice 55 quid. Such good odds really with Liverpool being so poor at the moment. You can always get very good value I find with the bindippers as they nearly always guarantee to cock it up these days...
How many games has uncle Woy got left before he is replaced by Martin O'Neill? Can't be too many.
How many games has uncle Woy got left before he is replaced by Martin O'Neill? Can't be too many.
The following was on the beeb:-
Liverpool end a top-flight match round in the bottom three for the first time since 19 September 1964.
Couldn't happen to a nicer side.
The following was on the beeb:-
Liverpool end a top-flight match round in the bottom three for the first time since 19 September 1964.
Couldn't happen to a nicer side.
oh no ...let me get some tissues to wipe away my tears.....
"Dave"'s sentence could finish6-0-6 should be fun tonight.
The next caller is Dave from Cornwall, 'Not been to the game today but...'.
Cheeky bugger, no way would you catch me phoning 606 or supporting redscouse/chelski."Dave"'s sentence could finish6-0-6 should be fun tonight.
The next caller is Dave from Cornwall, 'Not been to the game today but...'.
'................I've decided I'm a Chelsea fan now'
The Spurs fan just on 606 going on about how they're going to win the league is making me want to vomit.
Green's just said they can top their Champions' League group. Because they beat Twente at home. Give me a God damn break. I cannot f****ing wait to see them get destroyed in Milan.
That Liverpool fan as well, Lord help us. "Liverpool will rise again. All you gloaters enjoy it for now, we will rise again, and when that happens we will be proud to have stood behind the club on days like this". Honestly, what a pompous, portentous, moronic, sanctimonious, melodramatic, self-adoring, over-the-top bunch of twats they really are. This is football, not the rise and fall of the Roman empire. Get a damn grip.
"Liverpool finished the game with Gerrard at centre-back, Raul Meireles at left back and with Kyrgaikos up front. They are a shambles on and off the pitch."
Real Madrid three up in just half an hour and playing some great stuff, this could get very messy for their opponents.
Whats happened to Kaka, is he still there?
But Warnock's been appalling! Frankly I'd rather have Milner at left-back than him at the moment on form. Still, maybe this will be the boost he needs.
But Warnock's been appalling! Frankly I'd rather have Milner at left-back than him at the moment on form. Still, maybe this will be the boost he needs.
He had a much better game Saturday tbf.Milner didn't play well on Sunday but he had been poorly so maybe that's why...
They should drop De Jong, the evil twunt, or Barry and be a little more adventurous. Put Milner in the centre, Silva and Johnson sharing the wider areas.Funnily enough, the Dutch manager has done just that: LINK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9058532.stm)
Netherlands coach Bert Van Marwijk told the Algemeen Dagblad newspaper: "It was a wild and unnecessary offence.
"I have a problem with the way Nigel needlessly looks to push the limit."
They should drop De Jong, the evil twunt, or Barry and be a little more adventurous. Put Milner in the centre, Silva and Johnson sharing the wider areas.Funnily enough, the Dutch manager has done just that: LINK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9058532.stm)QuoteNetherlands coach Bert Van Marwijk told the Algemeen Dagblad newspaper: "It was a wild and unnecessary offence.
"I have a problem with the way Nigel needlessly looks to push the limit."
If that was an England player like Gerrard or Terry it would be brushed under the carpet.
Rags one up against the Arse.
Penalty to the Arse.
1-1.
Agreed. For 40 minutes they've more than matched the Arse. I continue to be impressed with the development of Ridgewell. He'll never be great but he's turning into a decent player. At least by their standards.Rags one up against the Arse.
Give McLeish credit. He's made that lot hard to beat if nothing else. And their fans reward them every week by showing up in their hundreds. They really don't know how good they've got it right now.
The noses were a newly promoted team last season, go a whole year without getting beat at home and finish in their best position (9th, teehee) in 50 years, yet they boo the team after they lose to Everton. And they have the cheek to call Villa fans 'fickle' haha.Rags one up against the Arse.
Give McLeish credit. He's made that lot hard to beat if nothing else. And their fans reward them every week by showing up in their hundreds. They really don't know how good they've got it right now.
That WAS a bad challenge from Wilshere.
Yep, that was completely out of order from Wilshere... Zigic is lucky that he's escaped with no major injury.
Everton dominating early on.. although I think my feed is a minute or two behind.
Yep, that was completely out of order from Wilshere... Zigic is lucky that he's escaped with no major injury.
Did I hear Wenger saying others teams players should be protected from harsh Arsenal tackles?
Do you think O'Neill might have a new job by the end of the week?
Silly old Roy. A few more years at Fulham, nice little nest egg. Now? Just another Liverpudlian unemployment statistic.
Do you think O'Neill might have a new job by the end of the week?
Silly old Roy. A few more years at Fulham, nice little nest egg. Now? Just another Liverpudlian unemployment statistic.
I thought it was interesting that he felt compelled to point out this week, that his contract would have to be paid up in full if he is asked to leave by the new owners.
Do you think O'Neill might have a new job by the end of the week?
Silly old Roy. A few more years at Fulham, nice little nest egg. Now? Just another Liverpudlian unemployment statistic.
I thought it was interesting that he felt compelled to point out this week, that his contract would have to be paid up in full if he is asked to leave by the new owners.
Yeah, I agree. You'd want out if you were in that situation, wouldn't you? I know I would.
Do you think O'Neill might have a new job by the end of the week?
Silly old Roy. A few more years at Fulham, nice little nest egg. Now? Just another Liverpudlian unemployment statistic.
I thought it was interesting that he felt compelled to point out this week, that his contract would have to be paid up in full if he is asked to leave by the new owners.
Yeah, I agree. You'd want out if you were in that situation, wouldn't you? I know I would.
TBH any manager in situ when new owners come in will be in danger. But when he was first appointed I did mention he has a reasonably poor record with top teams with serious expectations in this country. So hopefully they will keep him on.
Beckford's pace will be useful on the counter, and he can put the Liverpool defence under pressure when they get the ball. Start pressing the opposition as early as possible, it's a good tactic.
Beckford's pace will be useful on the counter, and he can put the Liverpool defence under pressure when they get the ball. Start pressing the opposition as early as possible, it's a good tactic.
Yes with a 451 I could see that. But Everton have gone to 442 with that move and given the Midfield to Liverpool.
I'm not big into gambling but I think I might have a few quid on MON being the next manager of Liverpool.
Beckford's pace will be useful on the counter, and he can put the Liverpool defence under pressure when they get the ball. Start pressing the opposition as early as possible, it's a good tactic.
Yes with a 451 I could see that. But Everton have gone to 442 with that move and given the Midfield to Liverpool.
Maybe, but with two players up front they can both press the defence more effectively, perhaps forcing Liverpool into longer passing that bypasses their midfield advantage. Maybe. Or he's got it wrong. We'll see.
Time for the scousers to blame the manager now. Obviously, MON will be the next manager. He'll drag them out of the shite and become a legend. Just when they realise he isn't going to win them anything, he'll walk. Legendary status intact.
Time for the scousers to blame the manager now. Obviously, MON will be the next manager. He'll drag them out of the shite and become a legend. Just when they realise he isn't going to win them anything, he'll walk. Legendary status intact.
So who is the shittiest striker that has actually got talent this season?
Carew
Rooney
Torres
Harewood > Carew
Tbf the officials got the offsides wrong, but it werent a foul for citehs second, just very fecking lucky.
Harewood > Carew
Based on what? Certainly not goal scoring.
I thought it would have been really soft. Think Bpool are unlucky, they played well enough and got unlucky with other decisions not going there way. Like the never give up mentality alotTbf the officials got the offsides wrong, but it werent a foul for citehs second, just very fecking lucky.
Why not? Tevez clipped the defenders leg stopping him from clearing it and making him stumble. Foul in my book.
When you have all the advantafes that Man City have because of their money it's just wrong that they also get such large slices of luck.
Harewood > Carew
Based on what? Certainly not goal scoring.
How much effort Harewood put in over the past 5 minutes. More than Carew has all season.
Grandin goal was marginal off/on side? Tevez offside for his goal?Grandin onside, Tevez offside.
Blackburn vs Sunderland. Oooh a must watch! I can't even see how the respective fans would even want to turn up or tune in for that one. It's not a sexy match is it?
Real score twice in a minute. Ronaldo and Ozil.Very lucky with both goals. Second was an own goal.
Eduardo has just got a standing ovation from arsenel for scoring against them for ShaktarAlthough I'm pretty sure that had it been 1-0 rather then 5-0 at the time they wouldn't have been quite so magnanimous.
Eduardo has just got a standing ovation from arsenel for scoring against them for ShaktarAlthough I'm pretty sure that had it been 1-0 rather then 5-0 at the time they wouldn't have been quite so magnanimous.
Kevin prince boating has one from being relegated with Pompey to playing for AC Milan at Real Madrid.
This is just brilliant. 'Onest 'Enry said before the game they were 1 player away from being league champions. Not looking like champions now are you 'Arry? Really hope Inter get a sackful.
So, after not being in the top European competition for 50 years, you think you're just gonna go into the San Siro and beat the reigning champs?
I've only got the radio on as i'm working late. Is Aitch twitching like a good 'un?Not twitching,just stood on the edge of his technical area with a purple face
I've only got the radio on as i'm working late. Is Aitch twitching like a good 'un?Not twitching,just stood on the edge of his technical area with a purple face
I've only got the radio on as i'm working late. Is Aitch twitching like a good 'un?Not twitching,just stood on the edge of his technical area with a purple face
In June 1990, whilst watching the World Cup in Italy, Redknapp was involved in a car crash with Bournemouth's managing director Brian Tiler, who died along with four other people. Though Redknapp made a full recovery (apart from being permanently without a sense of smell), he eventually quit Bournemouth at the end of the 1991-92 season.
I've only got the radio on as i'm working late. Is Aitch twitching like a good 'un?Not twitching,just stood on the edge of his technical area with a purple faceQuote... Though Redknapp made a full recovery (apart from being permanently without a sense of smell), he eventually quit Bournemouth at the end of the 1991-92 season.
All the good laughs of 89 minutes spoiled by Benitez telling his players to take a break in the second half and Gareth Fucking Bale.
Bale will be gone come the summer so spurs fans ought to enjoy him as much as they can this season
Got to eat humble pie after treating him as something of a joke figure in his early days at Spurs...
He'll probably be a Citeh player next year anyway.
By the way, another tactical masterstroke from Benitez: he brings on the stationery Cordoba to play at right back and moves Maicon into a roving role upfield, with little or no defensive responsibility. Gareth Bale then scores twice. Honestly, people in England fauned over his supposed tactical genius, and for what reason? He has a notebook which he writes in. I've never seen much evidence that he is especially marked out for his tactics, not at Valencia, not at Liverpool and not now at Inter.
Even though spuds lost, of course the deluded spuds fans and manager will think they've somehow 'matched' the European champions on the pitch after a 'valiant' effort after going 4-0 down which means they can still go REALLY far in this competition.
Am I the only one who doesn't hype up Bale as everyone else? Lets not forget everyone used to take the piss out of him no more than 8 months ago because of his winless record at Spurs and being considered a 'shit' left-back. Decent left-winger, but he's only played that position for about 6 months... Ashley Young is better. I think spurs should use their brains for once and hold Man Citeh or whoever to a joke amount of money for him. Modric is better than Bale too.
By the way, another tactical masterstroke from Benitez: he brings on the stationery Cordoba to play at right back and moves Maicon into a roving role upfield, with little or no defensive responsibility. Gareth Bale then scores twice. Honestly, people in England fauned over his supposed tactical genius, and for what reason? He has a notebook which he writes in. I've never seen much evidence that he is especially marked out for his tactics, not at Valencia, not at Liverpool and not now at Inter.
He fluked a European Cup final by putting on a player he should have started with and having an outstanding player to pull his team out of the shit.
Ashley Young was the best left-sided winger in 07/08 and 08/09 getting into the Premier League team of the year and winning Young Player of the Year. Bale hasn't achieved what Ash has achieved.
Young at his best > Bale at his best
Ashley Young was the best left-sided winger in 07/08 and 08/09 getting into the Premier League team of the year and winning Young Player of the Year. Bale hasn't achieved what Ash has achieved.
Ashley Young isn't world class, neither is Bale... but the point i'm making is that Ash has proven it 2 seasons in a row, you can't expect him to produce amazing performances all the time; if he did he wouldn't be playing for us, he'd be playing for the best teams in the world.
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Sad, but true.
It's fun to point and laugh at them, but tonight I spent the evening watching the Apprentice and playing computer games.
My Spurs supporting friend watched his team play Inter at the San Siro in the Champions League.
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Unfortunately Randy hasn't been able to spend as much on our squad as Spurs have on theirs. It's an unavoidable fact of modern football that you get what you pay for and their squad cost about twice as much as ours.
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Unfortunately Randy hasn't been able to spend as much on our squad as Spurs have on theirs. It's an unavoidable fact of modern football that you get what you pay for and their squad cost about twice as much as ours.
I thought somebody had been through this myth and proved that "net spend" since Randy took over, we've spent more than Spurs?
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Sad, but true.
It's fun to point and laugh at them, but tonight I spent the evening watching the Apprentice and playing computer games.
My Spurs supporting friend watched his team play Inter at the San Siro in the Champions League.
Last night was the first time Spurs and Inter had ever met in competitive football. We've already played them and beaten them.
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.We'd have gone out to Young Boys ;)
Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Unfortunately Randy hasn't been able to spend as much on our squad as Spurs have on theirs. It's an unavoidable fact of modern football that you get what you pay for and their squad cost about twice as much as ours.
I thought somebody had been through this myth and proved that "net spend" since Randy took over, we've spent more than Spurs?
It's not a myth when you look at squad value, Redknapp has a larger and more expensive squad of players to choose from than Houllier has. Net spend is useful for accountants, the players that he has on the pitch are more important for a manager.
Not really. Enic have owned Spurs since 2001. If since 2001 Enic have spent £200m (which I'm not saying that they have done) and Randy has spent £100m since 2006, then Randy hasn't spent what Enic have.Even when Spuds were 4-0 down, it was still them bastards that were playing Inter in the Champions League and not us. Take the piss all you want, that fucking should have been us.
Unfortunately Randy hasn't been able to spend as much on our squad as Spurs have on theirs. It's an unavoidable fact of modern football that you get what you pay for and their squad cost about twice as much as ours.
I thought somebody had been through this myth and proved that "net spend" since Randy took over, we've spent more than Spurs?
It's not a myth when you look at squad value, Redknapp has a larger and more expensive squad of players to choose from than Houllier has. Net spend is useful for accountants, the players that he has on the pitch are more important for a manager.
Maybe so, but it does show that your argument about Randy not havin gthe money to spend what Spurs' owners have had to spend is wrong.
According to their annual accounts reports, Spurs spent £262.4m on player transfers between summer 2006/2007 and the start of last season.
Since then they've bought Kaboul, Van der Vaart and Sandro.
In your example, Dave, would you not have to factor in the fact that players signed in 2001 will almost certainly be retired or getting there by now?You would. But that doesn't allow for the fact that a football club is a constantly evolving thing.
GT joked that Platt couldn't even read and write when he was at the Villa.
If the players signed earlier bring in a load of money (such as the £15m of so they got for Postiga, Carr, Davies and Kanouté) and that allows you to bring in Berbatov, Carrick and Dawson for the same amount, one of whom you make a £16m profit on, one you make a £20m profit on and the other you get half a decade of good service from. That then gives you a base on which to build and also allows for reinvestment in players such as Van Der Vaart, Defoe, Modric etc.Perhaps, but the key word there is "sensible". The amount spent is irrelevant if it is spent poorly. Or if you have a limited manager.
I think it stands to reason that if Spurs have five additional years of sensible ownership and squad development than we do then you'd expect them to be in a better position now.
If the players signed earlier bring in a load of money (such as the £15m of so they got for Postiga, Carr, Davies and Kanouté) and that allows you to bring in Berbatov, Carrick and Dawson for the same amount, one of whom you make a £16m profit on, one you make a £20m profit on and the other you get half a decade of good service from. That then gives you a base on which to build and also allows for reinvestment in players such as Van Der Vaart, Defoe, Modric etc.Perhaps, but the key word there is "sensible". The amount spent is irrelevant if it is spent poorly. Or if you have a limited manager.
I think it stands to reason that if Spurs have five additional years of sensible ownership and squad development than we do then you'd expect them to be in a better position now.
Even if you believe that Spurs have massively outspent us, which I don't, that in itself is no reason why they should finish above us. Otherwise the table would correspond absolutely to money spent, which it doesn't.
They may or may not be five years ahead of us but for how long will that be a factor? After 10 years, 20 years or 100 years they will still be 5 years ahead of us in terms of when their rebuild started. At some point we have to be able to say "We've spent X amount over Y years and that should be enough to allow us to compete." We can't go on saying "Spurs are 5 years ahead of us" ad nauseam.
You might not believe that they've outspent us but your faith is misplaced as it is a verifiable fact.I said "massively outspent us", which I don't believe they have. They have spent a lot of money, so have we. The reason they have a better squad than us is because, on the whole, they have spent their money on better players. And they have tended to use them, something which we have only very recently started to match.
If they continue to spend more than us then it will be very difficult (not impossible) for us ever to catch them.
You might not believe that they've outspent us but your faith is misplaced as it is a verifiable fact.I said "massively outspent us", which I don't believe they have. They have spent a lot of money, so have we. The reason they have a better squad than us is because, on the whole, they have spent their money on better players. And they have tended to use them, something which we have only very recently started to match.
If they continue to spend more than us then it will be very difficult (not impossible) for us ever to catch them.
They've spent about double what we have spent, both gross and nett, since Randy took over. I think that does equate to "massively outspent us"Their net spend from 06/07 - 09/10, i.e. the seasons O'Neill was here - was less than ours. Plus they spend less on player salaries than we do. Therefore they have not massively outspent us.
They've spent about double what we have spent, both gross and nett, since Randy took over. I think that does equate to "massively outspent us"Their net spend from 06/07 - 09/10, i.e. the seasons O'Neill was here - was less than ours. Plus they spend less on player salaries than we do. Therefore they have not massively outspent us.
How did you work that out?http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/tottenham-hotspur-transfers.html
How did you work that out?http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/tottenham-hotspur-transfers.html
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/aston-villa-transfers.html
The transfer spend figures for Spurs are more than £50m less than they reported in their annual accounts.Are you referring to the Spurs accounts which you have been calling into question? Or have you now accepted they spend more on player salaries than we do?
The transfer spend figures for Spurs are more than £50m less than they reported in their annual accounts.Are you referring to the Spurs accounts which you have been calling into question? Or have you now accepted they spend more on player salaries than we do?
The amounts they spend on transfers are acounted for in a clear and transparant way. there is no need to interpret them as there is with wage costs. They have spent over £50m more than the figures on the link you posted.Right. So the figures that support your argument are fine, while those that don't need to be "interpreted". What a surprise.
bloody hell, this is like `Pigs in Space'Your piece on the Cat Lady the other day was a belter. "Now we will probably never know how the cat felt about it."
The amounts they spend on transfers are acounted for in a clear and transparant way. there is no need to interpret them as there is with wage costs. They have spent over £50m more than the figures on the link you posted.Right. So the figures that support your argument are fine, while those that don't need to be "interpreted". What a surprise.
I'm sorry if it's a bit too difficult for you to comprehend but yes, that's exactly the case. The figures for transfer spend are clear and transparent, the figures for wage costs are not. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's just the way these things work.The only clear and transparent thing about this whole sorry discussion is your agenda. Spurs have not massively outspent us. They have invested a lot in their team and so have we, marginally more in net terms. They spend a lot on player salaries and so do we, again marginally more.
Yet they have been doing that spending 2001 and building their squad accordingly, we have been doing it since 2006.I'm sorry if it's a bit too difficult for you to comprehend but yes, that's exactly the case. The figures for transfer spend are clear and transparent, the figures for wage costs are not. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's just the way these things work.The only clear and transparent thing about this whole sorry discussion is your agenda. Spurs have not massively outspent us. They have invested a lot in their team and so have we, marginally more in net terms. They spend a lot on player salaries and so do we, again marginally more.
Yet they have been doing that spending 2001 and building their squad accordingly, we have been doing it since 2006.So given Spurs are supposedly 5 years ahead in their development, how is it we finished 14 points in front of them in 07/08 and 11 points ahead in 08/09? This idea that they're years ahead of us and destined to be so for the foreseeable future just doesn't stand up.
We also have a higher net spend since 2006 then Arsenal or Man Utd have, are they doing better JUST because Wenger and Ferguson are better managers than O'Neill or is the fact that they had much better resources to work with before then a factor as well?
I'm sorry if it's a bit too difficult for you to comprehend but yes, that's exactly the case. The figures for transfer spend are clear and transparent, the figures for wage costs are not. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's just the way these things work.The only clear and transparent thing about this whole sorry discussion is your agenda. Spurs have not massively outspent us. They have invested a lot in their team and so have we, marginally more in net terms. They spend a lot on player salaries and so do we, again marginally more.
So presumably if Blackpool and West Brom finish ahead of Liverpool this season then that means that they have more valuable squads, better players and are in a better position to push on to Champions League qualification than Liverpool are next season?Yet they have been doing that spending 2001 and building their squad accordingly, we have been doing it since 2006.So given Spurs are supposedly 5 years ahead in their development, how is it we finished 14 points in front of them in 07/08 and 11 points ahead in 08/09? This idea that they're years ahead of us and destined to be so for the foreseeable future just doesn't stand up.
We also have a higher net spend since 2006 then Arsenal or Man Utd have, are they doing better JUST because Wenger and Ferguson are better managers than O'Neill or is the fact that they had much better resources to work with before then a factor as well?
I understand what you believe to be the case but you're wrong about it, that's all. We invested c. £80M on players while O'Neill was here and Spurs invested about the same, marginally less. The same is basically true of the amount spent on salaries.I'm sorry if it's a bit too difficult for you to comprehend but yes, that's exactly the case. The figures for transfer spend are clear and transparent, the figures for wage costs are not. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's just the way these things work.The only clear and transparent thing about this whole sorry discussion is your agenda. Spurs have not massively outspent us. They have invested a lot in their team and so have we, marginally more in net terms. They spend a lot on player salaries and so do we, again marginally more.
The have invested a lot more than us. Their squad cost a lot more than ours. Redknapp has a more expensive group of players to choose from. How many different ways does it need to be said before you get it?
I'm sorry if it's a bit too difficult for you to comprehend but yes, that's exactly the case. The figures for transfer spend are clear and transparent, the figures for wage costs are not. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's just the way these things work.The only clear and transparent thing about this whole sorry discussion is your agenda. Spurs have not massively outspent us. They have invested a lot in their team and so have we, marginally more in net terms. They spend a lot on player salaries and so do we, again marginally more.
Or is just possible that life isn't quite as black and white and clubs will occasionally go through crises that can be rectified by sensible decision making?The only people putting forward a black and white case are those that think Spurs must and will finish ahead of us simply because they started their rebuilding 5 years before us. The fact that they finished behind us in the seasons I mentioned proves that to be the case.
And the example I gave that you decided to ignore demonstrates that a bad season for any club doesn't automatically render irrelevant the positive things that have gone before.Or is just possible that life isn't quite as black and white and clubs will occasionally go through crises that can be rectified by sensible decision making?The only people putting forward a black and white case are those that think Spurs must and will finish ahead of us simply because they started their rebuilding 5 years before us. The fact that they finished behind us in the seasons I mentioned proves that to be the case.
Yet they have been doing that spending 2001 and building their squad accordingly, we have been doing it since 2006.So given Spurs are supposedly 5 years ahead in their development, how is it we finished 14 points in front of them in 07/08 and 11 points ahead in 08/09? This idea that they're years ahead of us and destined to be so for the foreseeable future just doesn't stand up.
We also have a higher net spend since 2006 then Arsenal or Man Utd have, are they doing better JUST because Wenger and Ferguson are better managers than O'Neill or is the fact that they had much better resources to work with before then a factor as well?
You are a funny fucker, are you stamping your feet as you type? Even the website you pointed to earlier, which we know for a fact undervalues their spend by more than £50m, shows Spurs having spent 50% more than us in net terms since Randy took over.If I'm a funny fucker you must be a stupid fucker.
If I'm a funny fucker you must be a stupid fucker.
And the example I gave that you decided to ignore demonstrates that a bad season for any club doesn't automatically render irrelevant the positive things that have gone before.I'm not sure why my position is regarded by some as so controversial. We've spent a lot of money, as have Spurs. We spend a lot on salaries, so do Spurs. We finished well above them for two seasons before they caught us up by appointing a superior manager. The progress they have made under him has surpassed our own rate of progress, despite us having a period of stability, high spending and no boardroom interference. The result of their progress means they are now able to attract a better class of player than we can, which is why they got Van der Vaart for £8M and we got Ireland for the same price.
I've not said that Spurs either will or must finish above us for any reason. But I have given some fairly cogent arguments as to why they might without it all being down to our own incompetence.
Nice and waffly, and not at all controversial. But nor is that fact that in the years 2001-2006 when they were in a position to bring in the likes of Berbatov, Davids, Lennon, Huddlestone, Carrick, Dawson, Defoe and Keane we were bringing in Mathieu Berson, Kevin Phillips and Aaron Hughes.And the example I gave that you decided to ignore demonstrates that a bad season for any club doesn't automatically render irrelevant the positive things that have gone before.I'm not sure why my position is regarded by some as so controversial. We've spent a lot of money, as have Spurs. We spend a lot on salaries, so do Spurs. We finished well above them for two seasons before they caught us up by appointing a superior manager. The progress they have made under him has surpassed our own rate of progress, despite us having a period of stability, high spending and no boardroom interference. The result of their progress means they are now able to attract a better class of player than we can, which is why they got Van der Vaart for £8M and we got Ireland for the same price.
I've not said that Spurs either will or must finish above us for any reason. But I have given some fairly cogent arguments as to why they might without it all being down to our own incompetence.
However, I don't think they are predestined to finish above us because of the players they bought in 2001. They'll probably finish above us because of the players they've bought much more recently, and because they have a very good manager.
I understand what you believe to be the case but you're wrong about it, that's all. We invested c. £80M on players while O'Neill was here and Spurs invested about the same, marginally less. The same is basically true of the amount spent on salaries.I'm sorry if it's a bit too difficult for you to comprehend but yes, that's exactly the case. The figures for transfer spend are clear and transparent, the figures for wage costs are not. There's nothing dodgy about it, it's just the way these things work.The only clear and transparent thing about this whole sorry discussion is your agenda. Spurs have not massively outspent us. They have invested a lot in their team and so have we, marginally more in net terms. They spend a lot on player salaries and so do we, again marginally more.
The have invested a lot more than us. Their squad cost a lot more than ours. Redknapp has a more expensive group of players to choose from. How many different ways does it need to be said before you get it?
The difference is that they invested their money in better players, used them better and eventually appointed a manager who could get good performances out of them consistently. Whereas we bought inferior players for the most part, used only some of those we did buy, and ultimately had a manager who reached the limit of his ability in getting good performances out of them. How long is it going to take before you get that?
2009 accounts
During the financial year the following players joined the Club:
Luka Modric, Giovani Dos Santos, Heurelho Gomes, David Bentley,
Vedran Corluka, Cesar Sanchez, Roman Pavlyuchenko, Wilson
Palacios, Carlo Cudicini, John Bostock, Paul-Jose M’Poku Ebunge
and Mirko Ranieri whilst Jermain Defoe, Pascal Chimbonda and
Robbie Keane all re-signed. The total cost of
all of these players was £119.3m.
Additions 119,336
“Since the year end we have boosted our squad with the following
signings: Peter Crouch, Sebastien Bassong, Niko Kranjcar, Kyle
Naughton, Kyle Walker and James Walker at a cost of £29.4m.”
It stands up because they went out and spent another £148,736,000 on new players.
I'd rather talk about what a pathetic excuse of a footballer Peter Crouch is. He's 6'7 and goes down quicker than Paris Hilton's knickers. The amount of times he goes down for a player of his size is almost turning into a running joke, he's been getting tips of Darko Milicic fo' sho'; and to think people say Ashley Young is a diver...
Well done to whichever ref was officiating today's spurs vs Everton match... just told Crouch to get up you lanky piece of shit.
The fact that that they had two dodgy seasons doesn't mean that they didn't have valuable players or the proceeds from the sale of valuable players that we didn't. I'm not looking for someone to blame for that, it's just a benefit that they had over us. Good luck to them.No, what it demonstrates is the opposite: that having valuable players and / or the proceeds from the sale of valuable players doesn't solely dictate where you finish. It's about the quality of the players you spend your money on, and your manager's ability to get good, consistent performances out of them. Pointing out that Redknapp was better at doing both than O'Neill, and managed it in less time, isn't looking for someone to blame. It's just stating a fact.
And nobody has said that it does.The fact that that they had two dodgy seasons doesn't mean that they didn't have valuable players or the proceeds from the sale of valuable players that we didn't. I'm not looking for someone to blame for that, it's just a benefit that they had over us. Good luck to them.No, what it demonstrates is the opposite: that having valuable players and / or the proceeds from the sale of valuable players doesn't solely dictate where you finish.
But nor is that fact that in the years 2001-2006 when they were in a position to bring in the likes of Berbatov, Davids, Lennon, Huddlestone, Carrick, Dawson, Defoe and Keane we were bringing in Mathieu Berson, Kevin Phillips and Aaron Hughes.
The fact that that they had two dodgy seasons doesn't mean that they didn't have valuable players or the proceeds from the sale of valuable players that we didn't. I'm not looking for someone to blame for that, it's just a benefit that they had over us. Good luck to them.
You are a funny fucker, are you stamping your feet as you type? Even the website you pointed to earlier, which we know for a fact undervalues their spend by more than £50m, shows Spurs having spent 50% more than us in net terms since Randy took over.If I'm a funny fucker you must be a stupid fucker.
The figures show that for the four seasons O'Neill was here our net spend was £82.3M. They also show that Spurs' net spend over the same period was £77.7M
Villa
06/07 £14.1M
07/08 £6.25M
08/09 £45.9M
09/10 £16.05M
Spurs
06/07 £23.8M
07/08 £33.95M
08/09 £19.45M
09/10 £00.5M
If I'm a funny fucker you must be a stupid fucker.
[mod hat] Can both of you cut out the childish name calling please?[/mod hat]
Celtic one up.1-1 - Og from Loovens i think - Get in!
It's getting a bit tasty now.Celtic one up.1-1 - Og from Loovens i think - Get in!
Ref just bottled sending Quasimodo Neville off. Already on a yellow and he dives in and got no where near the ball. Stoke fans chanting "If he played for Stoke, you would send him off".
It's getting a bit tasty now.Celtic one up.1-1 - Og from Loovens i think - Get in!
Get in. Great goal from Tuncay.I want ManU to win Stoke are our direct competition at the mo.Much as I hate Manure
Mad game over on ESPN, PSV 10 - Feyenoord 0.what the fk?
I don't see either of them as our direct competition. One are title contenders and the other aiming for a respectable league finish. I think we're in between.So do I hence why we need Stoke to lose not climb 3 points above us
Either way, I'm glad to see Hernandez shut the feckin Delilah song up.
LENNON, WHAT'S THE SCORE? LENNON, LENNON WHAT'S THE SCORE?
PSV 10 - 0 Feyenoord, oh dear.
PSV 10 - 0 Feyenoord, oh dear.
And it was 2-0 at half time.
Hernandez is just the type of striker we need at the moment. He looks like being their new Solksjaer.
Great save by Joe Hart, Fabregas misses from the spot
Though why Gareth Barry just let Nasri run around him, God only knows
Man City haul off the disappointing Gareth Barry
For those who said we lost our two best players to Citeh over the last two seasons, I like this from the BBC text.
For the first goal.QuoteThough why Gareth Barry just let Nasri run around him, God only knows
Later on.QuoteMan City haul off the disappointing Gareth Barry
PSV 10 - 0 Feyenoord, oh dear.
Predicted Arsenal to win this so not surprised at all.
I thought Man City were hugely flattered by their win at Blackpool last week and I remain completely underwhelmed by the quality of their team given the obscene amounts of money they have spent. I still can't see past a mix of highly paid mercenaries and over-rated English players whenever I watch them. They'll finish high up the league purely and simply because it is so mediocre for the most part...
Predicted Arsenal to win this so not surprised at all.
I thought Man City were hugely flattered by their win at Blackpool last week and I remain completely underwhelmed by the quality of their team given the obscene amounts of money they have spent. I still can't see past a mix of highly paid mercenaries and over-rated English players whenever I watch them. They'll finish high up the league purely and simply because it is so mediocre for the most part...
I think you're being over simplistic, Richard.
For a so-called bunch of mercenaries I thought they showed a lot of spirit to keep going despite having a man sent off in the 4th minute, it was only as they inevitably tired that Arsenal killed them off but for long periods they looked like they might get back into it. I think it's wrong to dismiss them so lightly, as it is the standard of the league.
LENNON, WHAT'S THE SCORE? LENNON, LENNON WHAT'S THE SCORE?
Can you hear the celtic sing?
http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewtopic.php?f=119&t=35366&sid=c7170ea0bda0396c6ed96287450bb364 ;D
Oh, and thanks for the £12 million you gave us for a free agent :-*
In other news, Feyenoord lost 10-0 to PSV. Yikes
In other news, Feyenoord lost 10-0 to PSV. Yikes
I just watched the goals. Number 9 was a penalty. What sort of referee gives a penalty when a team is 8-0 down?
In other news, Feyenoord lost 10-0 to PSV. Yikes
In other news, Feyenoord lost 10-0 to PSV. Yikes
I just watched the goals. Number 9 was a penalty. What sort of referee gives a penalty when a team is 8-0 down?
Cardiff 4-0 up against dirty Leeds.
How did Neville escaped a straight red never mind a second yellow for the tackle today?
One of the few times in the season I want Wolves to win, please knock out the dirty mancs.
And if we end up losing to Man Utd again in the final?One of the few times in the season I want Wolves to win, please knock out the dirty mancs.
No way. I despise the Dingles.
And if we end up losing to Man Utd again in the final?One of the few times in the season I want Wolves to win, please knock out the dirty mancs.
No way. I despise the Dingles.
Would it not be better to get rid of them at this stage?
How did Neville escaped a straight red never mind a second yellow for the tackle today?
I'd want the Albion to beat Manchester United at this stage.
Altogether now: 100 years they've won f*ck all...
Better for us to spank West Brom or Wolves in the semi-final rather than go out again to Man Utd, whatever your antipathy about either of the former.I'd want the Albion to beat Manchester United at this stage.
Have a lie down.
baggies 3 - 1 up
Better for us to spank West Brom or Wolves in the semi-final rather than go out again to Man Utd, whatever your antipathy about either of the former.I'd want the Albion to beat Manchester United at this stage.
Have a lie down.
Fergie won't want a replay....neither will Wolves for that matter.It's decided on the night isn't it?
Blues equalised last minute. Extra time could be a good thing with Sunday in mind.Could be though Tuesday to Sunday allows good recovery time
Awh, how cute... equalising to League 1 Brentford means so much to those little heathens, it must feel like they're back in League 1!..just goes to show the romance of the (League) Cup isn't dead ....
Fergie won't want a replay....neither will Wolves for that matter.It's decided on the night isn't it?
Yep and let's hope we do a professional job tomorrow and get the game wrapped up early.Blues equalised last minute. Extra time could be a good thing with Sunday in mind.Could be though Tuesday to Sunday allows good recovery time
Fergie won't want a replay....neither will Wolves for that matter.It's decided on the night isn't it?
West Ham make attacking substitution and are 28/1 to win the match...hmm! Should I?Probably best not.
Man City title challengers? Hahaha.
Anyone got a stream for the Utd match?
Anyone got a stream for the Utd match?
Take your pick (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91323&part=sports)
Anyone got a stream for the Utd match?
Take your pick (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=91323&part=sports)
Cheers Dave. None of them seem to work though.
It pains me, but Van Der Vaart is a great player.
It pains me, but Van Der Vaart is a great player.
Only £3m more than Sidwell....
*whistle*
Wankers. Don't like 'em.
Any one seen Van Der Vaart's missus?
Nice.
Nope, that's her.Any one seen Van Der Vaart's missus?
Nice.
I could be getting my footballers missuses mixed up here but I think she had cancer. I recall he stayed in Madrid an extra year (despite knowing he would not play) because she was receiving treatment.
It pains me, but Van Der Vaart is a great player.
Only £3m more than Sidwell....
*whistle*
Same price as Stevie Ireland
Only ones who do last minute deals with players based within the UK.It pains me, but Van Der Vaart is a great player.
Only £3m more than Sidwell....
*whistle*
Same price as Stevie Ireland
But I thought everyone hated managers who do deals last minute and you couldn't get as last minute as that one.
The Milner deal was organised/sanctioned by Randy and Paul Faulkner, MON had left the club at least a week before theOnly ones who do last minute deals with players based within the UK.It pains me, but Van Der Vaart is a great player.
Only £3m more than Sidwell....
*whistle*
Same price as Stevie Ireland
But I thought everyone hated managers who do deals last minute and you couldn't get as last minute as that one.
Well, that was bizarre. How can Clattenburg overrule the linesman when he wasn't even looking at the game? Oh sorry, it's at Old Trafford isn't it.
The letting Ferdinand stand there and join in the conversation between referee and assistant (Having, quite rightly just sent the Spurs players away) is the bit that really highlights the officials had lost their heads by that point.
The linesman's, sorry referee's assistant's action (whoa - too many apostrophes!! how should that be spelt?) was to put the flag in front of him, that is the indication of offside. To flag for handball he should have held the flag in tottenham's direction.
Basically it was a fuck up by all concerned.
With regard to the advantage, how long does a ref have to change his decision? To me, once signaled (and I have not seen footage of him doing this) then I'm not sure he can change it back to the original offence.
The letting Ferdinand stand there and join in the conversation between referee and assistant (Having, quite rightly just sent the Spurs players away) is the bit that really highlights the officials had lost their heads by that point.
That's what annoyed me most about the whole episode.
The letting Ferdinand stand there and join in the conversation between referee and assistant (Having, quite rightly just sent the Spurs players away) is the bit that really highlights the officials had lost their heads by that point.
That's what annoyed me most about the whole episode.
After seeing the ManU incident for the first time it was a shocking decision in the end. The linesman was right and the ref was wrong. The linesman actually just caves in. You can actually see him say what about the handball and Clattenberg says forget it.
The statement from the refs spokesman where he says he was trying to keep the play flowing in the spirit of the game was toss. And I suspect Ferdinand was reminding them they won't get their bonus if they don't give it. As I mentioned when the ref decided not to give Neville a second yellow last week, it's not just Rooney who has signed a new bumper contract with Fergie, the officials have as well. The only plus point of the affair was it was against Spurs.
It certainly looked like he was about to blow and decided the ball was in the keepers hands and plays advantage. What advantage was there?
As soon as a player is in possession of the ball and is free to continue play however he likes is gaining the advantage given. (I think that's how refs see it)
He could have sent Spurs on a quick counter attack, seeing as they were one-nil down and there were 5 minutes left you'd think he'd be grateful for that.
After seeing the ManU incident for the first time it was a shocking decision in the end. The linesman was right and the ref was wrong. The linesman actually just caves in. You can actually see him say what about the handball and Clattenberg says forget it.That's how it works. When Nani scores, the linesman puts his flag up to indicate to the referee that an infringement has happened to ensure that the referee has seen it. The referee confirms that he has seen it and made his decision (whether rightly or wrongly).
Has anyone seen Clattenberg give the play on signal (two arms in the air forward)? I think I saw him shrug. No wonder Gomes was confused.No, but did anyone see or hear him blow his whistle either to stop play either?
Has anyone seen Clattenberg give the play on signal (two arms in the air forward)? I think I saw him shrug. No wonder Gomes was confused.No, but did anyone see or hear him blow his whistle either to stop play either?
Probably and it would have solved a lot of problems if he had done. But he didn't, so it was a bit daft of Gomes to decide that he should have done and act accordingly.Has anyone seen Clattenberg give the play on signal (two arms in the air forward)? I think I saw him shrug. No wonder Gomes was confused.No, but did anyone see or hear him blow his whistle either to stop play either?
But should he have done?
Probably and it would have solved a lot of problems if he had done. But he didn't, so it was a bit daft of Gomes to decide that he should have done and act accordingly.Has anyone seen Clattenberg give the play on signal (two arms in the air forward)? I think I saw him shrug. No wonder Gomes was confused.No, but did anyone see or hear him blow his whistle either to stop play either?
But should he have done?
Let's face it, if Gomes had just launched the ball like any sensible player would have done there wouldn't even be this discussion.
Spurs beating Inter is so very, very depressing.
Difficult to see a way back for Inter, they have been very much second best.
Spurs beating Inter is so very, very depressing.
We've done it twice at home as well. <wink>
What happened 20 odd years ago isn't really of much comfort nowadays, though.Don't give in to the hate. Take heart from the fact that a well-run club with a reasonable amount of money to spend can do well. There's no reason why we can't emulate what Spurs have done.
I was so hoping they'd get shown up in the CL, but they're doing depressingly well. I really, really can't stand them.
Spurs beating Inter is so very, very depressing.
We've done it twice at home as well. <wink>
What happened 20 odd years ago isn't really of much comfort nowadays, though.
I was so hoping they'd get shown up in the CL, but they're doing depressingly well. I really, really can't stand them.
So depressing how we have gone so far backwards whilst Spurs have flown past us. We were better than them 2 seasons ago. Bollocks.I agree we are way behind, you only need to look at the squads and see that
Who was it saying Ash is a better player then Bale again?Ash's Agent ???
Inter just standing off Bale too much. You would have thought they would know about him by now.
What a ball from Bale, a year ago he was a real Jonah for them, just goes to show the small margins in football between success and failure.
I do hate spurs as a club, but they are thrilling to watch. Fair play to Redknapp. But also a story about sustained investment which I suspect we can't matchIf it means us getting further into debt and the wage bill going up and up I dont think we can or should
I actually think Young was playing at Bale's level throughout the whole of 2008.Very few flashes and he goes missing in games much too often, like Sunday
Since then nowwhere near that form apart from some off flashes.
Spurs v Inter was a fantastic game of football. Compared to dross we watched on Sunday...well there is no comparison. Agree with others that Spurs look a difference level from us however the difference is two players of supreme class VDV and Bale. Others are same as our lot...so there is still a chance for us.
Spurs v Inter was a fantastic game of football. Compared to dross we watched on Sunday...well there is no comparison. Agree with others that Spurs look a difference level from us however the difference is two players of supreme class VDV and Bale. Others are same as our lot...so there is still a chance for us.The defences are alike but Spurs have a lot more creativity in midfield like Modric, Krancjar and Four strikers to choose from where we only have 2 in Heskey and Gabby (Carew isnt interested and the Fonz's face does not fit
Spurs were able to smother the play in Inter’s final third and they didn’t move the ball quick enough and looked poor. Fair play to Spurs, Dr Zaius is like lightening isn’t he?
I agree, hats off to them....said through gritted teeth mind you!
Anyone care to still pedal the argument that Ashley Young is better than Gareth Bale? Even given that the latter is in a rich vein of form, I'm afraid Bale is a long way ahead in every department including not falling over every two minutes
In some ways I'm glad we never made the top 4 under the previous manager when we had the chance as our counter attacking style of giving the opposition 60% of the ball would've been brutally exposed at that level so it wouldn't have been much fun imo.
Spurs have so many good technical ball players they look comfortable at that level, only one in comparison we have is Ireland who's struggling to fit in here.
However, I do think the longer Spurs are in this competition the more they'll drop points in the prem so strangely I think we have a better chance of finishing above them this season than last.
They've already lost to West Ham and Wigan this season remember.
For folk comparing spurs to us... I agree they are a level above us but the thing that really frustrates me is that the person I blame did a runner just before the start of the season. Spurs made better purchases in the transfer market (yes ones from abroad Martin, that place across the sea) and built a squad. Oneil purchased mediocre players on high wages and then didn't play them. Randy did provide the backing and I don't blame him for putting the brakes on.
For folk comparing spurs to us... I agree they are a level above us but the thing that really frustrates me is that the person I blame did a runner just before the start of the season. Spurs made better purchases in the transfer market (yes ones from abroad Martin, that place across the sea) and built a squad. Oneil purchased mediocre players on high wages and then didn't play them. Randy did provide the backing and I don't blame him for putting the brakes on.
I think he has to a certain extent. Oneil took us as far as he was ever going to. The next couple of transfer windows are crucial for us to catch up or we will get left behind. I wonder if Man Citeh will go after Bale in the summer or if Man u were to go after VDV. Imagine that scenario.
For folk comparing spurs to us... I agree they are a level above us but the thing that really frustrates me is that the person I blame did a runner just before the start of the season. Spurs made better purchases in the transfer market (yes ones from abroad Martin, that place across the sea) and built a squad. Oneil purchased mediocre players on high wages and then didn't play them. Randy did provide the backing and I don't blame him for putting the brakes on.
While I do agree about the cause, I will point out the most of the better players at Spurs were not purchased by 'Arry, in fact has he bought from abroad since he has been their apart from VDV?
And he was pretty much given VDV by Real at the last minute as they wanted him off their books and Spurs were the only CL club who wanted him/ he would go to. If we had got CL under MON last season that might well have been us with him instead ( and I know the European thing but I doubt even Martin would have turned him down (remember the Wesley Sneijder comments.))
No more Bale hype plz. Yes, he's a good player (even though dodgy arry still thinks he's a LB lol) but nowhere near world class - that's a joke. How can you be world class when he's only been a regular in the spurs team for 6 months? Besides you can't really be world class if you're playing for spurs, you've got to play for a big club.
It's a great win for spurs tonight and congrats beating the champs, but I think spurs fans know deep down Bale will be leaving in either January or at the end of the season, no way would they be able to keep him, they're not big enough. Spurs are going through a good time right now, but in a couple of years time they'll go back to be an average mid-table team again... every team has it highs and lows.
I think Inter played poor tonight - but why does that surprise me with Rafa's tactics? If that was Jose's team they would of destroyed spurs.
No more Bale hype plz. Yes, he's a good player (even though dodgy arry still thinks he's a LB lol) but nowhere near world class - that's a joke. How can you be world class when he's only been a regular in the spurs team for 6 months? Besides you can't really be world class if you're playing for spurs, you've got to play for a big club.
It's a great win for spurs tonight and congrats beating the champs, but I think spurs fans know deep down Bale will be leaving in either January or at the end of the season, no way would they be able to keep him, they're not big enough. Spurs are going through a good time right now, but in a couple of years time they'll go back to be an average mid-table team again... every team has it highs and lows.
I think Inter played poor tonight - but why does that surprise me with Rafa's tactics? If that was Jose's team they would of destroyed spurs.
Eh? So Bale's not that good because he's still playing for Spurs, but he'll be off in January to a big club? What do you think that the big clubs will see in him?
I think Spurs have got some wonderful players, I can't see them being broken as easily as we have been.
We know he can be economical with the truth and we only have his word for it but 'Arry did come out and say a deal had fallen through and he had a call 2 hours before the transfer deadline to ask if he was interested. He fell into 'Arrys lap rather then some mega deal although I will give 'Arry credit that he got into the CL knockout stages. If he wasn't in the CL league he wouldn't have got him.
It's quite simple really, would you rather be playing for spurs or the biggest clubs in the world where you'll be winning league titles and other numerous trophies and cups? Spurs can't offer Bale league titles or even finishing in the Champions League every season - teams like United, Barca and Real can. Why settle for second best at spurs when you could be playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world?No more Bale hype plz. Yes, he's a good player (even though dodgy arry still thinks he's a LB lol) but nowhere near world class - that's a joke. How can you be world class when he's only been a regular in the spurs team for 6 months? Besides you can't really be world class if you're playing for spurs, you've got to play for a big club.
It's a great win for spurs tonight and congrats beating the champs, but I think spurs fans know deep down Bale will be leaving in either January or at the end of the season, no way would they be able to keep him, they're not big enough. Spurs are going through a good time right now, but in a couple of years time they'll go back to be an average mid-table team again... every team has it highs and lows.
I think Inter played poor tonight - but why does that surprise me with Rafa's tactics? If that was Jose's team they would of destroyed spurs.
Eh? So Bale's not that good because he's still playing for Spurs, but he'll be off in January to a big club? What do you think that the big clubs will see in him?
I think Spurs have got some wonderful players, I can't see them being broken as easily as we have been.
I was about to say the same, second paragraph totally at odds with first.
As for being mid table again in a couple of years, can you imagine how we'd be reacting on here had we even reached the CL, let alone qualified for the group phase, not to mention beaten the holders tonight and topping our group.
I hate Spurs as much as the next man, but let's be entirely honest about this, we've got plenty of reasons to be jealous of them right now. Sadly.
It's quite simple really, would you rather be playing for spurs or the biggest clubs in the world where you'll be winning league titles and other numerous trophies and cups? Spurs can't offer Bale league titles or even finishing in the Champions League every season - teams like United, Barca and Real can. Why settle for second best at spurs when you could be playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world?
Even though I have dyslexia I don't think I could make it any more clear.
p.s. paulie I seem to remember quite a few of our fans mocking how finishing 4th in the league is considered some massive achievement.
And I acknowledged that he got him into the CL and so got VDV!?! There is being canny in the transfer market and being in the right place at the right time. With VDV I believe it was the latter but then if we had been better managed the last few years it could well have been us.
I
However, I do think that grumbling about Bale, suggesting finishing 4th isn't a big deal, saying Inter made it easy for them, suggesting that he didn't really want to sign VDV, he just landed on his lap, saying we beat Inter too (20 years ago) etc etc, all of which we've seen on this thread, is a bit hollow when their fans have spent the evening watching their team soundly beat Inter to go top of their Champions League group, whilst our fans have been watching Mock The Week repeats on Dave / moaning about Spurs on the internet / washing our hair / whatever we've all been doing tonight.
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However, I do think that grumbling about Bale, suggesting finishing 4th isn't a big deal, saying Inter made it easy for them, suggesting that he didn't really want to sign VDV, he just landed on his lap, saying we beat Inter too (20 years ago) etc etc, all of which we've seen on this thread, is a bit hollow when their fans have spent the evening watching their team soundly beat Inter to go top of their Champions League group, whilst our fans have been watching Mock The Week repeats on Dave / moaning about Spurs on the internet / washing our hair / whatever we've all been doing tonight.
Well two of those were mine. The first I can only go on what came out of Arrys mouth and the second was a joke, indicated with the <wink>.
If you think he's good now, just imagine when you see him putting those sort of performances in a white shirt... a Madrid white shirt, or in a United shirt etc... He could just be playing exactly the same way he is now, but because he'd be doing it for 1 of the biggest clubs it'd mean more to more people.It's quite simple really, would you rather be playing for spurs or the biggest clubs in the world where you'll be winning league titles and other numerous trophies and cups? Spurs can't offer Bale league titles or even finishing in the Champions League every season - teams like United, Barca and Real can. Why settle for second best at spurs when you could be playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world?
Even though I have dyslexia I don't think I could make it any more clear.
p.s. paulie I seem to remember quite a few of our fans mocking how finishing 4th in the league is considered some massive achievement.
So Bale is not as good because he doesn't play for Real or Barca but you believe Ashley has been better because he doesn't play for Barca or Real?
spurs were a credit to english football last night -well done harry!
I can't stand those bastards but you have to say well done after last night.Well said.
Those bastards!
spurs were a credit to english football last night -well done harry!
Bale is on a different planet to Ashley and has been for a while now.
Bale is on a different planet to Ashley and has been for a while now.
There is an ape gag in here somewhere.
I think he's lost a yard.
2-1 Milan. Inzaghi again, looked a mile offsideYup, that sounds more or less what you'd expect.
2-1 Milan. Inzaghi again, looked a mile offside
I think he's lost a yard.
Gabby or Walcott
I wish we were playing in European competitions.We might have been if MO'N had f*cked off at the end of last season instead of the start of this one
Lavezzi = a god for tonight only if this stays the same!
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
Do you prefer not being in it and sitting at home and watching other teams on TV who are still in it?
We get beaten every other game at the moment. We might as well get a couple of European trips out of it.I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
Do you prefer not being in it and sitting at home and watching other teams on TV who are still in it?
If we cant beat the like of Rapid then yes.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
Do you prefer not being in it and sitting at home and watching other teams on TV who are still in it?
If we cant beat the like of Rapid then yes.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
No. Why would you assume we'd get beaten? Would you prefer to sit and watch Manchester City, Liverpool and Spurs playing instead?
Diving elbowing bastard coming on for Liverpool.Steeeeevieeeee Geeeeeeeeeeee. The pundits favourite scouser.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
No. Why would you assume we'd get beaten? Would you prefer to sit and watch Manchester City, Liverpool and Spurs playing instead?
Im a Villa fan mate , the only time im intrested in Utd, City, Spurs is when we are playing them.
& We'd get beaten in Europe becouse we simply ain't good enough,.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
No. Why would you assume we'd get beaten? Would you prefer to sit and watch Manchester City, Liverpool and Spurs playing instead?
Im a Villa fan mate , the only time im intrested in Utd, City, Spurs is when we are playing them.
& We'd get beaten in Europe becouse we simply ain't good enough,.
Interested enough to be posting on a non Villa match thread when they and not us are playing?
Diving elbowing bastard coming on for Liverpool.
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
So we can get beat every other game ?.
No. Why would you assume we'd get beaten? Would you prefer to sit and watch Manchester City, Liverpool and Spurs playing instead?
Im a Villa fan mate , the only time im intrested in Utd, City, Spurs is when we are playing them.
& We'd get beaten in Europe becouse we simply ain't good enough,.
Interested enough to be posting on a non Villa match thread when they and not us are playing?
passing time on here , hence not watching other teams on the telly
I wish we were playing in European competitions.
Spotland is a fantastic "old school" ground though isn't it?
Spotland is a fantastic "old school" ground though isn't it?
It is. Disappointingly we were running very late so couldn't go for a pre-match drink at The Cemetery Hotel, the best pub-right-next-door-to-the-ground I know.
Bolton 1 - 0 Spurs.......Kevin Davies, good finish but he was 2 yards off-side
The Radio 5 commentary is definitely making Bolton sound like the better team.
Even though they didn't win or err, draw that was great comeback by spurs scoring two very late goals being within 1 more goal of drawing. That's got to be the headlines for the sport on the news tonight.
Even though they didn't win or err, draw that was great comeback by spurs scoring two very late goals being within 1 more goal of drawing. That's got to be the headlines for the sport on the news tonight.
Well, their last unsuccessful comeback was treated as a victory, why not this one too?
On other matters, Hargreaves is back for Man Utd. He could be the key for them, they have been giving away too many cheap passes and chances this season.
If Spurs can keep up the energy level to close Inter for the full match then they will deserve the win but maybe bet against them to win the weekend.
That Gyan looks a good player. I wasn't convinced when people said we should sign him based on his good world cup but he looked really good against Storke.
He can't dance mind.
Can I just mention Tamworth 2-1 Crewe?
Deserved as well.
Milner dropped for Man City....and somewhat amusingly, Shorey playing right-back for WBA.
Milner dropped for Man City.
True enough.Milner dropped for Man City.
They have got a squad of players which means they could rest him. I believe he has played in every match so far.
Milner dropped for Man City....and somewhat amusingly, Shorey playing right-back for WBA.The irony's probably not lost on him.
Milner dropped for Man City.
They have got a squad of players which means they could rest him. I believe he has played in every match so far.
Could be interesting if AFC Wimbledon and MK Dons both win their replays.
Useless Chelsea fuckers.
Can I just mention Tamworth 2-1 Crewe?
Deserved as well.
And the "reward" is a trip to Carlisle, possibly the worst draw you could have had?
that Fuller is world class
that Fuller is world classHave u been drinking ?, smoking waccy baccy.........
that Fuller is world class
Spurs 1 - 1 Sunderland
That'll do.
that Fuller is world class
that Fuller is world class
Erm, good goal, but no he isn't...
that Fuller is world class
Erm, good goal, but no he isn't...
He's nowhere near world class.
He's massively underrated, though.
that Fuller is world classHave u been drinking ?, smoking waccy baccy.........
'Arry's Un'appy at 'is clubs supporters booing 'is players arf last night.
'Arry's Un'appy at 'is clubs supporters booing 'is players arf last night.
Someone should tell him he's mistaken.
It is only Villa fans who do that.
Why is watching Man City such a sterile experience?
Does Milner still play for them by the way as I hardly noticed him on the pitch...
I wonder if, by any chance, it will be Chelsea, then Arsenal, then Liverpool on MOTD.
It should really be the 'Thriller at the Villa' first.
It should really be the 'Thriller at the Villa' first.
That implies that the BBC ( and ITV/Sky) want you to see goals in a match.
I wonder if, by any chance, it will be Chelsea, then Arsenal, then Liverpool on MOTD.
I wonder if, by any chance, it will be Chelsea, then Arsenal, then Liverpool on MOTD.
Ooops! Villa 3rd!
I noticed it with Tevez earlier and Chamakh has the same. I have just about got used to the gloves been worn but now full blown scarves seem to be the fair for these soft Johnny Foreigners now.
I like McCarthy.
I also think that had that been a Wolves player putting in that Fabregas challenge, he'd have been off, no doubt about it whatsoever.
I like McCarthy.
I also think that had that been a Wolves player putting in that Fabregas challenge, he'd have been off, no doubt about it whatsoever.
Also, who still thinks we shouldn't have gone for Carroll in the summer?
Destruction must be coming small heath's way from Citeh in the second-half otherwise it will be "Mancini Out" lol.
Destruction must be coming small heath's way from Citeh in the second-half otherwise it will be "Mancini Out" lol.
Let's hope the Blues get a draw in that case. Are there two more boring teams in the Prem than Man City and the Blues? Stoke maybe?
Pitiful following from Small Heath at City today. Nobody in the top tier and lots of empty seats in the bottom.Just the usual then, took about 600 to Stoke, their fans have got to be on level with Fulham
Pitiful following from Small Heath at City today. Nobody in the top tier and lots of empty seats in the bottom.Don't forget only 'real Brummies' support Birmingham City... all 750 'real Brummies' are inside Man City's stadium.
I know all good teams are built on a solid defence, but if you'd spent the money that Citeh had you'd expect a bit of flair wouldn't you.
He played in that position for Germany.But he's a centre-back and he only plays right-back for Germany because Germany have two good centre-backs already. It seems like Mancini is having a bit of a MON Cuellar situation on his hands. Kolo Toure is shit and so are the rest of Shitty's team, the team that cost £350 million and are still shit despite how much they spend. Jokers.
I still think Blackpool will go down, they're doing alright at the moment but it will wear off. The Olbiyun have been found out a bit aswell. Olbiyun, Wolves and Small Heath to go down would be brilliant.He played in that position for Germany.But he's a centre-back and he only plays right-back for Germany because Germany have two good centre-backs already. It seems like Mancini is having a bit of a MON Cuellar situation on his hands. Kolo Toure is shit and so are the rest of Shitty's team, the team that cost £350 million and are still shit despite how much they spend. Jokers.
So who's going down down down? Small heath, West Ham, Dingles are all looking a bit shit. Would be nice to see Stoke go down too.
But he's a centre-back and he only plays right-back for Germany because Germany have two good centre-backs already. It seems like Mancini is having a bit of a MON Cuellar situation on his hands. Kolo Toure is shit and so are the rest of Shitty's team, the team that cost £350 million and are still shit despite how much they spend. Jokers.They're five points ahead of us, so what are we?
But he's a centre-back and he only plays right-back for Germany because Germany have two good centre-backs already. It seems like Mancini is having a bit of a MON Cuellar situation on his hands. Kolo Toure is shit and so are the rest of Shitty's team, the team that cost £350 million and are still shit despite how much they spend. Jokers.They're five points ahead of us, so what are we?
Struggling with a massive injury crisis?We've got a lot of injuries, yes, but are we struggling? I don't think so. Today was a good indicator of that.
Yeah, but they're expected to win the title with the money they've spent... we on the otherhand are playing Hogg and Bannan in midfield but yet both young lads put Yaya Toure's weekly wages to shame.But he's a centre-back and he only plays right-back for Germany because Germany have two good centre-backs already. It seems like Mancini is having a bit of a MON Cuellar situation on his hands. Kolo Toure is shit and so are the rest of Shitty's team, the team that cost £350 million and are still shit despite how much they spend. Jokers.They're five points ahead of us, so what are we?
Although the kids are doing really well, if we had someone like Heskey or an up for it Carew on the end of some of the crosses we could have had more. Conversely without the kids we might not have played as well.Well we know better than to rely on Heskey and Carew for a regular supply of goals. I think we're about where we deserve to be in the table, based on some excellent attacking play and some pretty shoddy defending at times.
Yeah, but they're expected to win the title with the money they've spent...I don't know about that. I think this season for them is about qualifying for the Champions League.
Yeah, but they're expected to win the title with the money they've spent...I don't know about that. I think this season for them is about qualifying for the Champions League.
Wasn't that their last season target? Remember Hughes was sacked as he wasn't reaching targets. They were 6th at the time. Another 150 milion or however much spent means they should be aiming higher then just 4th this time.I don't think anyone has set the title as their target, and I don't think anyone expects them to win it. So qualifying for the Champions League has to be their goal. Whether they do that by finishing 2nd, 3rd or 4th doesn't much matter in the long run.
I dunno about that. When you look at the players they have you would say it's a team that should challneging for the title, but the problem for Man City is that they can't play as a team. I just don't understand the logic of getting another manager in soon the starting the whole cycle again of buying/wasting more money on new overrated and overpaid players. Realistically who can they get better than what they already have? They'll only get the 'best' players once they start winning things.Yeah, but they're expected to win the title with the money they've spent...I don't know about that. I think this season for them is about qualifying for the Champions League.
They'll only get the 'best' players once they start winning things.I think that'll happen when they get Champions League football. The offer of that plus mega-money is what will attract better players than they currently have.
I think that'll happen when they get Champions League football. The offer of that plus mega-money is what will attract better players than they currently have.
They're currently on course for it, with a long way to go admittedly. 4th place, with a 3 point lead, and they haven't even been playing very well.
Agreed, but which better players are they going to get?They'll only get the 'best' players once they start winning things.I think that'll happen when they get Champions League football. The offer of that plus mega-money is what will attract better players than they currently have.
Liverpool have been absolute rubbish. I thought they'd "turned the corner"?Nah, they do this act of beating United or Chelsea every season trying fool everyone they're legit contenders for the league title then put in dire performances against relegation fodders Wigan and Stoke. The Liverpool we are watching tonight are the real Liverpool - not the Liverpool that beat Chavski.
Liverpool, haha.
All they had to do was defend a long throw and a through ball...useless eh ;-)
A horrible, over rated shit of a player.
I've never thought he was much cop.
Liverpool have been absolute rubbish. I thought they'd "turned the corner"?
That's one hell of a goal from Elmander. One of the best of the season.
Brilliant, here it isThat's one hell of a goal from Elmander. One of the best of the season.
Agree. Super goal.
To trot out a cliche, had that been scored by *insert any big club player here* the media would be drooling over it for days.
A horrible, over rated shit of a player.
I've never thought he was much cop.
OK but does he have any negative points? ;D
A horrible, over rated shit of a player.
I've never thought he was much cop.
OK but does he have any negative points? ;D
He's a scouser...you don't need any others. That trumps them all in my book...
A horrible, over rated shit of a player.
I've never thought he was much cop.
OK but does he have any negative points? ;D
He's a scouser...you don't need any others. That trumps them all in my book...
Sorry, Messrs Saunders, Withe, Mortimer and Morley. You're just not good enough.
Everton pull one back, the goal stands even though someone was climbing all over song in the penalty area for the knock down. If that stands why the fuck didn't delfouneso's against Blackpool?
This is a strange, strange season. Anyone seems to be able to beat anyone.
Some will no doubt say it is an indication of a lack of quality, but I say long may it continue. The procession behind the usual four of recent seasons and perm one or two of the three promoted clubs to go down has become boring.
This is a strange, strange season. Anyone seems to be able to beat anyone.
Some will no doubt say it is an indication of a lack of quality, but I say long may it continue. The procession behind the usual four of recent seasons and perm one or two of the three promoted clubs to go down has become boring.
But Gareth Bale turned Maicon inside out....He must be brilliant. I mean Messi is quite good, but he's no Gareth Bale. And the same Bale that Onouha had in his pocket for 90 minutes the following weekend.
Stevenage seem to have won the penalty shoot-out, although BBC is being weird.
France have totally outclassed us
Most recent games that a MON team has played against Arsenal we have been all over them for most of the match.France have totally outclassed us
It was like watching a MON team play Arsenal.
Most recent games that a MON team has played against Arsenal we have been all over them for most of the match.France have totally outclassed us
It was like watching a MON team play Arsenal.
Christ, Gomes, that was awful, there's no way he should have managed to score from that angle.I agree Paulie, he should have been a lot stronger and got the ball
Great goal spoiled by Chamakh looking like that weaselly twat from JLS, and also sporting a frankly absurd scarf.lol.......isnt that what is called a "snood"
He's some player, that Bale.
Well I fancy Arsenal next week, they are so fragile.
What a daft way to concede a penalty.
VDV booked for running behind the goal to get the the away fans to celebrate. One word - Vidic.Vidic ran towards the fans and stayed on the pitch but it was other players like Brown, Rio, etc who pushed him into the crowd
Acrid smell of envy all around me here at the Sty! Chelsea are shit so farI'm watching on a dodgy stream, yes i'm that bored! Their atmosphere is terrible, empty seats everywhere and all you can hear is Chelsea.
VDV booked for running behind the goal to get the the away fans to celebrate. One word - Vidic.Vidic ran towards the fans and stayed on the pitch but it was other players like Brown, Rio, etc who pushed him into the crowd
Varney's goal for Blackpool was world class.
VDV booked for running behind the goal to get the the away fans to celebrate. One word - Vidic.Vidic ran towards the fans and stayed on the pitch but it was other players like Brown, Rio, etc who pushed him into the crowd
VDV booked for running behind the goal to get the the away fans to celebrate. One word - Vidic.Vidic ran towards the fans and stayed on the pitch but it was other players like Brown, Rio, etc who pushed him into the crowd
So did they get booked then? The rule is there to stop incitement and pitch invasions - out of Ash, Vidic and VDV the only one which resulted in fans on the pitch was Vidic. Explain that to me Einstein.
I hear a Wigan player has also just been sent off for winning the ball "he was nowhere near the player".
VDV booked for running behind the goal to get the the away fans to celebrate. One word - Vidic.Vidic ran towards the fans and stayed on the pitch but it was other players like Brown, Rio, etc who pushed him into the crowd
So did they get booked then? The rule is there to stop incitement and pitch invasions - out of Ash, Vidic and VDV the only one which resulted in fans on the pitch was Vidic. Explain that to me Einstein.
I hear a Wigan player has also just been sent off for winning the ball "he was nowhere near the player".
Its fairly obvious that the fans are closer to the pitch at Villa Park so when they went towards the fans, the fans swamped the stewards/police and came onto the pitch
Have they not sacked him yet? At least Clyde can't lose today for a change (we're not playing).
No i havnt I will say again unlike Van Der Vaart and Ashley, Vidic did not run off the pitch he was pushed into his own fans by his own playersVDV booked for running behind the goal to get the the away fans to celebrate. One word - Vidic.Vidic ran towards the fans and stayed on the pitch but it was other players like Brown, Rio, etc who pushed him into the crowd
So did they get booked then? The rule is there to stop incitement and pitch invasions - out of Ash, Vidic and VDV the only one which resulted in fans on the pitch was Vidic. Explain that to me Einstein.
I hear a Wigan player has also just been sent off for winning the ball "he was nowhere near the player".
Its fairly obvious that the fans are closer to the pitch at Villa Park so when they went towards the fans, the fans swamped the stewards/police and came onto the pitch
Therefore the decision not to book Vidic last week is even more ridiculous. Don't look now mate but you've just disproved your own arguement.
Have they not sacked him yet? At least Clyde can't lose today for a change (we're not playing).
Happily, no. He convinced them of his vision based on the performances against Rangers and Inverness (2-0 and 2-1 defeats).
Translation: They can't afford the £400K pay-off for him and his staff and he doesn't have the decency to quit.
Chelsea really seem to have gone off a cliff lately.
They've got even worse since they sacked Butch Sideways.
Tamworth chucking it away as usual, 3-3 now!Bloody hell.
They are winning but gabby's mum is the only song they have sung all afternoon. I think they will do itWhat is the Gabbys mum song all about?
Tamworth chucking it away as usual, 3-3 now!Bloody hell.
Chelsea really seem to have gone off a cliff lately.
They've got even worse since they sacked Butch Sideways.
And speaking of coming unglued, the Baggies have fallen off quite a ways from their impressive start.
The PL really is mediocre this year and none of the top teams of recent seasons are as strong as they once were. I think the 25 man PL squad limit is having a major impact on squad depth for the likes of Chelsea and Arsenal, and while their fully fit first XI's are better than most, their overall squads aren't that much better than a lot of the teams beneath them. It gives us great hope that we are improving steadily, and we remain close to the top places despite our early season turmoil, new management and philosophy change, lack of transfer activity and our disastrous injury record.Similarly at the bottom (Spam and Wolves apart) there are about 15 teams who are much of a muchness.
The PL really is mediocre this yearno TV it's not it's more competitive. Today I watched blues beat Chelsea and they deserved it. It's levelling out and that is good for fans.
The PL really is mediocre this yearno TV it's not it's more competitive. Today I watched blues beat Chelsea and they deserved it. It's levelling out and that is good for fans.
The PL really is mediocre this yearno TV it's not it's more competitive. Today I watched blues beat Chelsea and they deserved it. It's levelling out and that is good for fans.
The PL really is mediocre this yearno TV it's not it's more competitive. Today I watched blues beat Chelsea and they deserved it. It's levelling out and that is good for fans.
Liverpool have a penalty.
small heath/birmingham/birmingham city/small heath alliance or whatever they're called these days can just f*ck off. They're a pathetic team... gameplan for Chelsea was defend for your lives and nick a lucky goal. Seriously, they're just dire, try those tactics against us in a couple of weeks and we'll give them a battering. No way can they continue to play that shit, turgid embarrassing football and get away with it... if it wasn't for the Dogheads and Wet Spam being so poor they'd be going down.How bitter......our defence should have been the england back four on wednesday......plus a clean sheet against man city away last week......johnson and dann for england i say....
Everyone on TalkSport, 5Live and SkySports were saying despite small heath winning they did not deserve to win and Chelsea should have won easily. They'll get away with it this week but if they try those tricks again in the next few weeks they might be back down to 18th where they belong. I'm going out tonight and needed to get that off my chest because those cretins need to be put back in there place. The City is Ours... always has been, always will be.
LMAO!small heath/birmingham/birmingham city/small heath alliance or whatever they're called these days can just f*ck off. They're a pathetic team... gameplan for Chelsea was defend for your lives and nick a lucky goal. Seriously, they're just dire, try those tactics against us in a couple of weeks and we'll give them a battering. No way can they continue to play that shit, turgid embarrassing football and get away with it... if it wasn't for the Dogheads and Wet Spam being so poor they'd be going down.How bitter......our defence should have been the england back four on wednesday......plus a clean sheet against man city away last week......johnson and dann for england i say....
Everyone on TalkSport, 5Live and SkySports were saying despite small heath winning they did not deserve to win and Chelsea should have won easily. They'll get away with it this week but if they try those tricks again in the next few weeks they might be back down to 18th where they belong. I'm going out tonight and needed to get that off my chest because those cretins need to be put back in there place. The City is Ours... always has been, always will be.
You can't ask someone with a nose as bent as his to understand balance. His face is like our team, bland, ugly and lop sided
fao The Situation....haha a win is a win sunshine.....i could not give a flyin fuck how many shots chelsea had...all it says in the record books now is that blues won mate....job done....it also says in the record books about how shit your support is. 20,000 Blosers inside the sty against Chelsea... can you understand why we sing The City is Ours now?
I thought we have played some great stuff this season...at arsenal we knocked it about fantastic....as for this city is ours nonsence???you wont ruffle any feathers with that kid...plus you have copied everton by singing it.....think of your own songs....fao The Situation....haha a win is a win sunshine.....i could not give a flyin fuck how many shots chelsea had...all it says in the record books now is that blues won mate....job done....it also says in the record books about how shit your support is. 20,000 Blosers inside the sty against Chelsea... can you understand why we sing The City is Ours now?
You can avoid my post... deep down you know you play atrocious, negative, play-not-to-lose type of football. It'll get you nowhere in the long-term, especially against your rivals in the bottom half of the table. How you play football just kind of sums up your club - pathetic, insignificant, boring, souless (as Kenny Cunningham put it quite aptly).
Would you like to respond to my post about how dire your support is and how negative your football is?
Why do you equate top teams losing games to PL is mediocre? This is the way it should be. No one Club in PL should turn up at an away ground and expect to win as was the case before this season.The PL really is mediocre this yearno TV it's not it's more competitive. Today I watched blues beat Chelsea and they deserved it. It's levelling out and that is good for fans.
Just because it's more competitive i.e that is any team can beat any other on their day, doesn't mean that it isn't mediocre. In my opinion the quality of football on offer this season is poorer overall. There is a genuine lack of world stars in the league plus the remaining big name players are either injured or not producing consistently thus contributing to that mediocrity.
EDIT: I should add I'm not really complaining from a Villa perspective. Anything that gives us a better chance to succeed is fine by me.
You haven't played any great football this season, you can't string more than 5 passes together before losing the ball. You play negative negative negative football and you know it so plz don't say otherwise. Your win today wasn't won by playing great attacking football with flair, it was won because your goalkeeper saved your asses making save after save. Like I said, you got lucky today after relying on your goalkeeper throughout the match, lets see how you get on in a few months time when you're down near the bottom playing the same type of football and come back to me and say this negative football is working for us.I thought we have played some great stuff this season...at arsenal we knocked it about fantastic....as for this city is ours nonsence???you wont ruffle any feathers with that kid...plus you have copied everton by singing it.....think of your own songs....fao The Situation....haha a win is a win sunshine.....i could not give a flyin fuck how many shots chelsea had...all it says in the record books now is that blues won mate....job done....it also says in the record books about how shit your support is. 20,000 Blosers inside the sty against Chelsea... can you understand why we sing The City is Ours now?
You can avoid my post... deep down you know you play atrocious, negative, play-not-to-lose type of football. It'll get you nowhere in the long-term, especially against your rivals in the bottom half of the table. How you play football just kind of sums up your club - pathetic, insignificant, boring, souless (as Kenny Cunningham put it quite aptly).
Would you like to respond to my post about how dire your support is and how negative your football is?
West Ham are utterly diabolically.
Why do you equate top teams losing games to PL is mediocre? This is the way it should be. No one Club in PL should turn up at an away ground and expect to win as was the case before this season.
In a way what Man City have done is good that they have diverted some players away from United and Chelsea. The other factor is that top performers in the world cup have either chosen to go to RM and Barca or their great players have decided to stay in Spain and not follow money to England.
This is time now for Clubs like us to make a major impact.
fao the situation....dont think your real madrid kid we are only 1pt behind you...and if you are so good how come you could not beat us at home this season...wake up and smell the coffee....
Possessiongoals
Birmingham39%Chelsea61%
Attempts on target
Birmingham1Chelsea10
Attempts off target
Birmingham0Chelsea15
Corners
Birmingham4Chelsea16
Fouls
Hmm.
Possessiongoals
Birmingham39%Chelsea61%
Attempts on target
Birmingham1Chelsea10
Attempts off target
Birmingham0Chelsea15
Corners
Birmingham4Chelsea16
Fouls
Hmm.
birmingham city 1 chelsea 0
I've been watching that till the missus commandeered the TV for the fucking X Factor, the other team are appalling aint they?
I've been watching that till the missus commandeered the TV for the fucking X Factor, the other team are appalling aint they?
I've suffered the same fate every night since I came back from Bradford on Tuesday if you throw in I'm a Celebrity and The Apprentice.
It's getting beyond a joke now.
I dont mind the celebrity jungle thing so much, its got knockers in it.
Why do you equate top teams losing games to PL is mediocre? This is the way it should be. No one Club in PL should turn up at an away ground and expect to win as was the case before this season.
In a way what Man City have done is good that they have diverted some players away from United and Chelsea. The other factor is that top performers in the world cup have either chosen to go to RM and Barca or their great players have decided to stay in Spain and not follow money to England.
This is time now for Clubs like us to make a major impact.
I agree with that. It's shit for Sky and the gloryhunting wankers who support such clubs but it's better for the neutrals and competition.
I dont mind the celebrity jungle thing so much, its got knockers in it.
You've cracked then. I'm still holding out, claiming the moral high ground.
Why do you equate top teams losing games to PL is mediocre? This is the way it should be. No one Club in PL should turn up at an away ground and expect to win as was the case before this season.The PL really is mediocre this yearno TV it's not it's more competitive. Today I watched blues beat Chelsea and they deserved it. It's levelling out and that is good for fans.
Just because it's more competitive i.e that is any team can beat any other on their day, doesn't mean that it isn't mediocre. In my opinion the quality of football on offer this season is poorer overall. There is a genuine lack of world stars in the league plus the remaining big name players are either injured or not producing consistently thus contributing to that mediocrity.
EDIT: I should add I'm not really complaining from a Villa perspective. Anything that gives us a better chance to succeed is fine by me.
In a way what Man City have done is good that they have diverted some players away from United and Chelsea. The other factor is that top performers in the world cup have either chosen to go to RM and Barca or their great players have decided to stay in Spain and not follow money to England.
This is time now for Clubs like us to make a major impact.
The PL really is mediocre this yearno TV it's not it's more competitive. Today I watched blues beat Chelsea and they deserved it. It's levelling out and that is good for fans.
Just because it's more competitive i.e that is any team can beat any other on their day, doesn't mean that it isn't mediocre. In my opinion the quality of football on offer this season is poorer overall. There is a genuine lack of world stars in the league plus the remaining big name players are either injured or not producing consistently thus contributing to that mediocrity.
EDIT: I should add I'm not really complaining from a Villa perspective. Anything that gives us a better chance to succeed is fine by me.
Almeria 0 - 8 Barca? Almeria coach sacked apparently. Seems the closing of the gap isn't so apparent in spain...
Almeria 0 - 8 Barca? Almeria coach sacked apparently. Seems the closing of the gap isn't so apparent in spain...
Chelsea 7-1 Villa
Chelsea 7-0 Stoke
Spurs 9-1 Wigan
They did lose 2-0 at home to newly promoted Hercules though.Almeria 0 - 8 Barca? Almeria coach sacked apparently. Seems the closing of the gap isn't so apparent in spain...
Chelsea 7-1 Villa
Chelsea 7-0 Stoke
Spurs 9-1 Wigan
I couldnt see Barca losing to Blose 1-0 thou...
I can't remember a more depressing weekend of football - every result I didn't want happened. Racist Stoke win, spuds come back from behind and win, scum get a lucky victory over Chelsea after Foster saved their asses, Liverpool win, we lose and now Citeh will beat Fulham.
To top it all off I bet Everton will win tomorrow.
Oh well, we'll have our perfect weekend soon...
I can't remember a more depressing weekend of football - every result I didn't want happened. Racist Stoke win, spuds come back from behind and win, scum get a lucky victory over Chelsea after Foster saved their asses, Liverpool win, we lose and now Citeh will beat Fulham.
To top it all off I bet Everton will win tomorrow.
Oh well, we'll have our perfect weekend soon...
racist Stoke ?
Inter Milan lose again.
This time to little Chievo.
Benitez will be gone soon.
They did lose 2-0 at home to newly promoted Hercules though.Almeria 0 - 8 Barca? Almeria coach sacked apparently. Seems the closing of the gap isn't so apparent in spain...
Chelsea 7-1 Villa
Chelsea 7-0 Stoke
Spurs 9-1 Wigan
I couldnt see Barca losing to Blose 1-0 thou...
Inter Milan lose again.
This time to little Chievo.
Benitez will be gone soon.
They are now 9 points adrift of Milan. Some achievement ruining a team who won everything last season. The guy is an idiot it will be hilarious if he gets the boot.
What on earth are you on about?I can't remember a more depressing weekend of football - every result I didn't want happened. Racist Stoke win, spuds come back from behind and win, scum get a lucky victory over Chelsea after Foster saved their asses, Liverpool win, we lose and now Citeh will beat Fulham.
To top it all off I bet Everton will win tomorrow.
Oh well, we'll have our perfect weekend soon...
racist Stoke ?
Aye, coming from homophobic The Situation it's a bit rich.
Inter Milan lose again.
This time to little Chievo.
Benitez will be gone soon.
They are now 9 points adrift of Milan. Some achievement ruining a team who won everything last season. The guy is an idiot it will be hilarious if he gets the boot.
If i'm not wrong, isn't it exactly the same group of players Mourinho won the champions league with? I can't think of anyone important that they've sold. If true, Benitez needs to get himself out of there quick and back to Spain before his reputation is damaged any more.
[What on earth are you on about?
tbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out
And that makes me homophobic?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.[What on earth are you on about?tbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out
And that makes me homophobic?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
No it doesn't Dave.And that makes me homophobic?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Yes.
And that makes me homophobic?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.[What on earth are you on about?tbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out
Keep up with the libelous accusations kiddo.
And that makes me homophobic?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.[What on earth are you on about?tbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out
Keep up with the libelous accusations kiddo.
No it doesn't Dave.And that makes me homophobic?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Yes.
You don't know me so don't make any libelous accusations... saying things which aren't true can get you into some trouble in real life. Just plz stop with the holier-than-thou attitude like you've never ever said something bad in your lives which may cause offence.
Like I said earlier this week, people lash out saying things they don't mean and then later regret them. I know someone who once shouted 'gay abuse' towards a football player depsite having 2 gay friends... if he was homophobic why would he have 2 gay friends?
So you've never ever once in your life shouted something at the football you probably shouldn't of i.e. swearing at a player or referee then minutes later clapping the ref for a decision or a player for doing something great?No it doesn't Dave.And that makes me homophobic?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Yes.
You don't know me so don't make any libelous accusations... saying things which aren't true can get you into some trouble in real life. Just plz stop with the holier-than-thou attitude like you've never ever said something bad in your lives which may cause offence.
Like I said earlier this week, people lash out saying things they don't mean and then later regret them. I know someone who once shouted 'gay abuse' towards a football player depsite having 2 gay friends... if he was homophobic why would he have 2 gay friends?
If he shouts gay abuse why would 2 gays be his friend? If you think every gay you might come into contact with fancies you, then you're either incredibly arrogant or homophobic.
It's not fucking homophobic, just stop already with this whole 'ganging up clique mentality' - we're on the internet, if you really want to make serious accusations come and see me at the Villa and say it to me, not behind a keyboard where anyone can say anything in there own anonymity.
If I was 'homophobic' then why do I get on perfectly fine around gays? Like I said, you don't know me, you've never met so stop trying to clutch at straws by me saying something in tongue and cheek (I guess that sort of humour doesn't catch on).
tbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out
It's not fucking homophobic, just stop already with this whole 'ganging up clique mentality' - we're on the internet, if you really want to make serious accusations come and see me at the Villa and say it to me, not behind a keyboard where anyone can say anything in there own anonymity.
If I was 'homophobic' then why do I get on perfectly fine around gays? Like I said, you don't know me, you've never met so stop trying to clutch at straws by me saying something in tongue and cheek (I guess that sort of humour doesn't catch on).
It's strange for someone to get on well with certain people then use their sexuality/colour/disability/whatever as a term of abuse and a million times removed from changing your opinion on a player depending on their last action.I wish I lived in a perfect world filled with perfect people who acted in a holy and perfect way never doing wrong and always doing right.
If you heard me say it in 'real life' and how I would say it then I'm sure you would find I wasn't saying it in a serious manner. I must make sure in the future that people don't take my posts too seriously when it's not supposed to be serious.It's not fucking homophobic, just stop already with this whole 'ganging up clique mentality' - we're on the internet, if you really want to make serious accusations come and see me at the Villa and say it to me, not behind a keyboard where anyone can say anything in there own anonymity.
If I was 'homophobic' then why do I get on perfectly fine around gays? Like I said, you don't know me, you've never met so stop trying to clutch at straws by me saying something in tongue and cheek (I guess that sort of humour doesn't catch on).
Where in this have you shown any 'tongue in cheek' humour?Quotetbh, after having my ass grabbed by some creepy old gay man last week I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out
It's not fucking homophobic, just stop already with this whole 'ganging up clique mentality' - we're on the internet, if you really want to make serious accusations come and see me at the Villa and say it to me, not behind a keyboard where anyone can say anything in there own anonymity.
If I was 'homophobic' then why do I get on perfectly fine around gays? Like I said, you don't know me, you've never met so stop trying to clutch at straws by me saying something in tongue and cheek (I guess that sort of humour doesn't catch on).
Do your gay friends know that you, I assume deliberately and not spur of the moment under the excitement of posting on H&V, typed the line:
"I don't think I'd feel comfortable myself personally sharing a locker room with a gay. If I was in a football team with a gay I'd make it clear to stay clear of me when I take a shower, someone staring at my manhood whilst I'm showering would freak me out"?
If you fancy meeting for a pint I know a cracking little boozer at the end of Hurst Street that should be right up your alley.
If you heard me say it in 'real life' and how I would say it then I'm sure you would find I wasn't saying it in a serious manner. I must make sure in the future that people don't take my posts too seriously when it's not supposed to be serious.
Would it be fair for me to call someone racist next time someone criticizes one of our black players? No it wouldn't.
Please don't use the phrase 'up your alley' to The Situation. You'll only end up setting him off again!I read that as "getting him off" at first. Phew!
Has Ancelotti quit?
I don't think some people on here understand or even grasp that people can say things when angry or frustrated but infact don't realise/understand what they're actually saying... especially at a football match, or even calling a person who can't drive properly a 'wanker' or whatever. People can say things in the heat of the moment when they lose control, doesn't mean they actually mean what they're saying - even an expert in physcology probably knows that; but hey ho, you just keep up your libelous opinions of someone you've never actually met.
This perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two.
Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.
Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know.
This perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two.
Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.
Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know.
I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two.
I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two.
I sold a H&V to two blokes wearing EDL sweatshirts last Saturday. Granted they could have been Man Utd fans, they did have Brummie accents!
2-2 Arteta equaliser. Just need 1 more now to win my more than 4.5 goal bet!
I didn't say it was a shocker, or that I was shocked by it, or that we don't have people who share the views. I was merely stating that it may not just be due to the electing of a BNP Councillor, that people percieve Stoke, the club in question have some racist fans.This perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two.
Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.
Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know.
Football club supporters in reflecting the views of the population shocker? there are racists in every day life and you can sure as hell hear them at Football grounds hey we've even got a few of our own as I've heard at several grounds over the last few years. I've written to the club twice now giving the seat numbers of those involved.
You'll be pleased to know though the two asian stewards in front of us at Blackburn yesterday got no racist abuse at all in fact one of them fell asleep in the first half and was rudely awakened by pedersens goal. the look on his face was a picture.
2-2 Arteta equaliser. Just need 1 more now to win my more than 4.5 goal bet!
I bet you love Jermaine Beckford then.
Excellent numbers from the Everton fans for a game that far away on a monday night on tv. We're similar size clubs, we get bigger home crowds than them yet they can take 2000+ to Sunderland on a monday night and we took about 600 there last season for a midweek game not on tv. Their noise is crap but our numbers should be able to match theirs.Liverpool is a lot closer (about 2 hours drive) to Sunderland than Birmingham
Excellent numbers from the Everton fans for a game that far away on a monday night on tv. We're similar size clubs, we get bigger home crowds than them yet they can take 2000+ to Sunderland on a monday night and we took about 600 there last season for a midweek game not on tv. Their noise is crap but our numbers should be able to match theirs.Liverpool is a lot closer (about 2 hours drive) to Sunderland than Birmingham
Excellent numbers from the Everton fans for a game that far away on a monday night on tv. We're similar size clubs, we get bigger home crowds than them yet they can take 2000+ to Sunderland on a monday night and we took about 600 there last season for a midweek game not on tv. Their noise is crap but our numbers should be able to match theirs.
I didn't say it was a shocker, or that I was shocked by it, or that we don't have people who share the views. I was merely stating that it may not just be due to the electing of a BNP Councillor, that people percieve Stoke, the club in question have some racist fans.This perceived racism of Stoke's fans is based on the fact they elected a BNP councillor isn't it? Whilst I wouldn't be as quick to accuse you of being a homophobe as others there is certainly more basis for that than deriding every person who supports, plays for and generally is associated with Stoke City Football Club as racists based on such flimsy evidence.I work with a muslim chap who does stewarding for Albion, and he had an eventful afternoon being racially abused by several EDL Stoke fans. You can't tar all of their fans with the same brush, but what was clear was that there was a number of them, not just one or two.
Especially as Stoke count such notorious white supremacists Ricardo Fuller, Kenwyne Jones and Salif Diao amongst their number.
Besides, all the people who voted BNP might have been Vale fans for all you know.
Football club supporters in reflecting the views of the population shocker? there are racists in every day life and you can sure as hell hear them at Football grounds hey we've even got a few of our own as I've heard at several grounds over the last few years. I've written to the club twice now giving the seat numbers of those involved.
You'll be pleased to know though the two asian stewards in front of us at Blackburn yesterday got no racist abuse at all in fact one of them fell asleep in the first half and was rudely awakened by pedersens goal. the look on his face was a picture.
I suppose if it happens in all walks of life its fair game then is it?
BBC Radio Scotland's trackside reporter Chick Young has been chatting to Gary McAllister. Is the Aston Villa assistant manager simply up in Glasgow to cheer on his boyhood heroes or does he have his eye on any of the players in blue? He's not saying...Maybe Davis is coming back then.
funny game. Man U, a team we should have beaten handily two weeks ago, ripping to shresds a team that we couldn't beat a week ago.
Manure 5 Blackburn 0 :O6 now
Make that 7Manure 5 Blackburn 0 :O6 now
Nope, 1-1 Etherington equaliser
From InfostradaLive on Twitter: "There have been 36 goals scored in the PL today, equal-fourth most ever on a single day in the division and the most since a 20 team league."
Although at that point I was thinking that my tenner on Arsenal -1 would have been wasted AND we'd lost had we not conceded the fourth.Nope, 1-1 Etherington equaliser
Ruined my £50, 4 game accumalator,plus I would've won £ 40 if Arsenal wouldve kept it a 3-2,selfish tossers.
Mark Davies' for Bolton was absolutely beautiful. If we were 2-1 down in the 90th minute, there's no way we'd be passing it around like that.
Mark Davies' for Bolton was absolutely beautiful. If we were 2-1 down in the 90th minute, there's no way we'd be passing it around like that.
That was a lovely goal. If Arsenal had scored that everyone would have been raving over it.
It wasn't even saved villajk... he missed the target from 12 yards out lmao. What an idiot.
NO WAY! Ekotto just takes out Kuyt clean there - it's got to be a peno. Bad decision by ref.I agree stonewall pen............
You mean less than you used to?Indeed I do.
I never liked him when he played for the Blues, and have always thought he looks like an absolute scutter, but I have to say, DJ Campbell (MOTD2) now comes across as rather a pleasant, relatively well spoken chap.
I'm looking forward to El Classico tonight. Should be an extra special game. Things are nicely warming up in Barcelona with the Real coach being bricked and windows put through.
Prefer Barca to Real, but can't see them winning. 2 or 3-1 to Real i reckon unfortunately.
Barcelona were as brilliant as Madrid were bad. So much for the influence of 'the special one'.
Not once did they even consider playing a long ball over the top for Villa or Messi to run onto, they were bloody brilliant. Xavi and Iniesta are footballing perfection.
Not once did they even consider playing a long ball over the top for Villa or Messi to run onto, they were bloody brilliant. Xavi and Iniesta are footballing perfection.
I said ths last night, but also the way they all work so hard to get the ball back when they don't have it. Impressive stuff.
Not once did they even consider playing a long ball over the top for Villa or Messi to run onto, they were bloody brilliant. Xavi and Iniesta are footballing perfection.
I said ths last night, but also the way they all work so hard to get the ball back when they don't have it. Impressive stuff.
I think Pep says that when they lose the ball they have to get it back within about 10 seconds, and fall back into formation if not...something like that anyway
I have never seen a team create space as we as they do with simple passing. Three, four, five yard passes that seem inconsequential but it always opens up space for players to run into. Astonishing control and understanding between the players.
They're taken football to a new level that makes everyone else look second rate.
They're taken football to a new level that makes everyone else look second rate.
What happened on I'm A Celebrity?
*wink*
Great decision by the lino to disallow West Ham's goal. Spector got the last touch from an offside position. Similar to the JC incident on Sat except that JC didn't touch the ball
Boa Morte has just almost wiped out Fabio.............
Boa Morte has just almost wiped out Fabio.............
He did catch Fabio. He also caught the ball otherwise it wouldn't have looped up like that. Anything that pisses off Fergie is alright in my book.
Hats off to Fabio, he does a cracking Stephen Warnock impression. Just needs to be a little bit worse and he'd have it off to a tee...
Hats off to Fabio, he does a cracking Stephen Warnock impression. Just needs to be a little bit worse and he'd have it off to a tee...
His impression even goes down to looking quite good when he first appeared on the scene but he is looking a liability now. He was lucky not to be booked when he deliberately fouled the winger who had just got past him.
If West Ham put Man United out, and we get put out by the Dogshitters tomorrow, it'll be very, very annoying indeed.
If West Ham put Man United out, and we get put out by the Dogshitters tomorrow, it'll be very, very annoying indeed.
Sounds like a Cup for the underdogs! Should be fine tomorrow then?
Sounds like a Cup for the underdogs! Should be fine tomorrow then?
Hey? Are you suggesting that we are he underdogs against Small Heath?
3-0 nowIf West Ham put Man United out, and we get put out by the Dogshitters tomorrow, it'll be very, very annoying indeed.
It depends whether the coming back from 2-0 down against a Claret and Blue side is exclusive to the Midlands or anywhere in Britain.
We are the underdogs.
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/carling-cup/birmingham-v-aston-villa/winner
4-0 fuck me!Is Fergie haranguing the 4th Official to have it all called off due the snow?
It fucks me off no end that Man U don't give a shit about this competition yet they still had more than enough to see us off last year in the final. You would think between manager and players we'd have found a way to win in a game where whether they win or not, it's not that relevant to them in the grand scheme of things. Still, I suppose they won't be defending it. We really have to do this tomorrow.
It fucks me off no end that Man U don't give a shit about this competition yet they still had more than enough to see us off last year in the final. You would think between manager and players we'd have found a way to win in a game where whether they win or not, it's not that relevant to them in the grand scheme of things. Still, I suppose they won't be defending it. We really have to do this tomorrow.
Yes I agree we could have been more aggressive in the final last year however the Utd team that played in final was a bit more heavy weight than the team that played tonight.
We're not going to have a better chance of winning the cup since...er, last season.
Thing with Arsenal is, Wenger is usually stubborn enough to play his kids all the way through. It gives everyone a chance.
Quiz question... who were the last team to eliminate the League Cup holders in a non-Final?
Quiz question... who were the last team to eliminate the League Cup holders in a non-Final?West Ham
Quiz question... who were the last team to eliminate the League Cup holders in a non-Final?West Ham
........and Everton have just equalised against Chelsea which takes them above usCourtesy of Jermaine Beckford.
Some player Craig Gardner. Could do with a bit of his tenacity and goals from midfield.
Must say we dont know when we are beaten at the moment down blues..good point for us,thought it was going to be after the lord mayors show today if im honest.it was a good spurs side as well....
You're back quick, no traffic?No fans. The empty seats made their return.
You're back quick, no traffic?Not as quick as takes some to get to the Isle of Man,from Villa Park!
Must say we dont know when we are beaten at the moment down blues..good point for us,thought it was going to be after the lord mayors show today if im honest.it was a good spurs side as well....You're back quick, no traffic?No fans. The empty seats made their return.
Working till 4pm yesterday mate plastering....went to fulham last week then the villa game in the week,cant do them all sunshine, christmas coming and all that.....might go to wolves next week though...Must say we dont know when we are beaten at the moment down blues..good point for us,thought it was going to be after the lord mayors show today if im honest.it was a good spurs side as well....You're back quick, no traffic?No fans. The empty seats made their return.
'Hello Tom, great draw for the Blues, whats that Tom? No I couldn't get down there today, er..................... a Polar Bear eat my Bronx hat so it was too cold. Can I have another?
You'll do for me etc etc.
Working till 4pm yesterday mate plastering....went to fulham last week then the villa game in the week,cant do them all sunshine, christmas coming and all that.....might go to wolves next week though...
Crawley are going to knock Swindon out of the FA Cup. Winning 3-2 with seconds to go.
Phil King doing the commentary....
Crawley are going to knock Swindon out of the FA Cup. Winning 3-2 with seconds to go.
Phil King doing the commentary....
I fucking hate Crawley.
FC United out of the Cup.
I'm heartbroken.
Crawley are going to knock Swindon out of the FA Cup. Winning 3-2 with seconds to go.
Phil King doing the commentary....
I fucking hate Crawley.
Ditto, fucking south coast overspill scum.
Crawley are going to knock Swindon out of the FA Cup. Winning 3-2 with seconds to go.
Phil King doing the commentary....
I fucking hate Crawley.
Ditto, fucking south coast overspill scum.
Its not on the south coast. If anything its Gatwick satellite town scum.
Hate to say it - Citeh starting to look really good.
I now hope Aberdeen do well because Craig Brown is ex-Clyde
Citeh have too many big egos.
Hate to say it - Citeh starting to look really good.
Hate to say it - Citeh starting to look really good.
West Ham made us look good.
Mark McGhee's Aberdeen team (Okay I know he's been sacked but still...) finally hit bottom after a 5-0 thrashing at the hands of Hearts.
Unfortunately, I think Craig Brown (whom I quite like) has made a big mistake in taking the job. I say unfortunately for him as I'd love it if Aberdeen go down.
such a shame we aren't in the mix!A win against the Pie Eaters should fix that hopefully...
Oi! I'm from Aberdeen and what have they ever done to you? I only lived there for 2 years admittedly but thats unreasonable. (sighs and accepts all football support is).Mark McGhee's Aberdeen team (Okay I know he's been sacked but still...) finally hit bottom after a 5-0 thrashing at the hands of Hearts.
Unfortunately, I think Craig Brown (whom I quite like) has made a big mistake in taking the job. I say unfortunately for him as I'd love it if Aberdeen go down.
I sincerely hope they go down too...'Well are my team up there and I think the doddering old git has acted disgracefully, as did Mr Magoo before him. A pox on their house!
Rumours doing the rounds that Roy Hodgson has gone.
Rumours doing the rounds that Roy Hodgson has gone.where you got that from?
This might seem incredibly 'Sky Sports' to the older lot on here, but from a neutral point of view I'm quite excited about Man Yoo Arsenal tomorrow.
There's something special about that fixture, and for the first time in a few years they're quite evenly matched and the two best sides in the country, IMO.
Unfortunately I think Sralex will have his lot revved up for this and they (especially Rooney) will tear Arsenal apart through the middle of the defence leaving Arsene in tears again.
Messi with another incredible goal, am I the only one watching this? They are probably playing better than they did against Real.
Messi with another incredible goal, am I the only one watching this? They are probably playing better than they did against Real.
I'm not sure whether Messi is the best player of all time, but Barca might be the best team ever.
What did Joey Barton do yesterday? (Other than score... They spoke about gestures?)
Highlights of Barcelona's 5-0 massacre of Real Sociedad. It's the stuff of dreams slightly ruined by the Geordie twat commentating and his Back to the Future referencesUnbelieveable.
Brilliant Barcelona (http://www.footytube.com/video/barcelona-real-sociedad-de-futbol-dec12-67688)
Well it's only what everyone else thinks, that the ladyboy is a shit stabber.What did Joey Barton do yesterday? (Other than score... They spoke about gestures?)
He seemed to be suggesting that Torres likes to fellate men, at one stage. Maybe that's what they are talking about?
Well it's only what everyone else thinks, that the ladyboy is a shit stabber.What did Joey Barton do yesterday? (Other than score... They spoke about gestures?)
He seemed to be suggesting that Torres likes to fellate men, at one stage. Maybe that's what they are talking about?
Well it's only what everyone else thinks, that the ladyboy is a shit stabber.What did Joey Barton do yesterday? (Other than score... They spoke about gestures?)
He seemed to be suggesting that Torres likes to fellate men, at one stage. Maybe that's what they are talking about?
Can I politely ask people to not resort to personal abuse.Well it's only what everyone else thinks, that the ladyboy is a shit stabber.What did Joey Barton do yesterday? (Other than score... They spoke about gestures?)
He seemed to be suggesting that Torres likes to fellate men, at one stage. Maybe that's what they are talking about?
Don't be such a thick wanker.
The Chilean miners are at Old Trafford tonight
Must be a punchline in this somewhere......
Would be quite amusing if Arsenal won tonight. I'd prefer them to win the league out of all the teams that realistically can.
Would be quite amusing if Arsenal won tonight. I'd prefer them to win the league out of all the teams that realistically can.
The Chilean miners are at Old Trafford tonight
Must be a punchline in this somewhere......
I hope the fans don't take the piss out of them. It's only a miner distraction and deep down they're good people.
This has 0-0 written all over it.
This has 0-0 written all over it.
Rooney is still showing respect to the officials. It couldn't have been "Fuck off" he was mouthing at the linesman for correctly calling a foul on Rooneys petualnt kick out at Clichy. Because if he was isn't that a booking or even a sending off.
And now Fletcher has just pushed Webb for not calling a block. Webb just talking to him. He is reffing this like the World cup where he is trying to not book anyone. Aren't refs supposed to impose the laws of the game.
Was that luck or what and I can't believe the "expert" said it was a good finish!
Rooney is still showing respect to the officials. It couldn't have been "Fuck off" he was mouthing at the linesman for correctly calling a foul on Rooneys petualnt kick out at Clichy. Because if he was isn't that a booking or even a sending off.
And now Fletcher has just pushed Webb for not calling a block. Webb just talking to him. He is reffing this like the World cup where he is trying to not book anyone. Aren't refs supposed to impose the laws of the game.
This makes my blood boil. I'd love to see him getting his well-deserved marching orders one day. Are they scared of him or something?
The Chilean miners are at Old Trafford tonight
Must be a punchline in this somewhere......
I hope the fans don't take the piss out of them. It's only a miner distraction and deep down they're good people.
Rooney is still showing respect to the officials. It couldn't have been "Fuck off" he was mouthing at the linesman for correctly calling a foul on Rooneys petualnt kick out at Clichy. Because if he was isn't that a booking or even a sending off.
And now Fletcher has just pushed Webb for not calling a block. Webb just talking to him. He is reffing this like the World cup where he is trying to not book anyone. Aren't refs supposed to impose the laws of the game.
This makes my blood boil. I'd love to see him getting his well-deserved marching orders one day. Are they scared of him or something?
I think that the correct and obvious punchline is (stolen from F365):The Chilean miners are at Old Trafford tonight
Must be a punchline in this somewhere......
I hope the fans don't take the piss out of them. It's only a miner distraction and deep down they're good people.
Poor bastards had to sit next to Mick Hucknall. I bet they were begging to go back in the mine.They have my sympathy.
Just seen the Utrecht line up v Liverpool, wonder if the commentator will snigger when mentioning their no 9 "Wolfswinkel".Witty though his name is, he'd be a smashing choice for a summer transfer.
Anyone else see the save Gordon just pulled off from Zat Knight? really is one of those that would be talked about ad inifinitum had it have been a top 4 team keeper. Brilliant.Superb, wasn't it.
I have to ask. Has the Lancashire town of Blackburn been moved from it's assumed geographical location to another part of Europe? How did their game vs West Ham survive the snow?
TheyWith all the suspensions/injuries Wigan have they'd have had one flake and cancelledI have to ask. Has the Lancashire town of Blackburn been moved from it's assumed geographical location to another part of Europe? How did their game vs West Ham survive the snow?
They are having a bit of an Indian summer there at the moment!
However you are correct the last time I looked there is not a lot between Wigan, Blackpool and Blackburn yet the other two games are off!
TheyBlackpool don't have under soil heating,Wigan on the other hand.I have to ask. Has the Lancashire town of Blackburn been moved from it's assumed geographical location to another part of Europe? How did their game vs West Ham survive the snow?
They are having a bit of an Indian summer there at the moment!
However you are correct the last time I looked there is not a lot between Wigan, Blackpool and Blackburn yet the other two games are off!
I have to ask. Has the Lancashire town of Blackburn been moved from it's assumed geographical location to another part of Europe? How did their game vs West Ham survive the snow?
I have to ask. Has the Lancashire town of Blackburn been moved from it's assumed geographical location to another part of Europe? How did their game vs West Ham survive the snow?
Just over 15 miles between the 2 cities.
Freak weather conditions in Wigan, apparently.
I have to ask. Has the Lancashire town of Blackburn been moved from it's assumed geographical location to another part of Europe? How did their game vs West Ham survive the snow?
Just over 15 miles between the 2 cities.
Freak weather conditions in Wigan, apparently.
Full scale blizzard in progress at Ipswich, who are l leading 2-0. I wonder what the odds are against the game finishing?The ref is one Mr Atwell.Anything could happen with that twat.
Full scale blizzard in progress at Ipswich, who are l leading 2-0. I wonder what the odds are against the game finishing?The ref is one Mr Atwell.Anything could happen with that twat.
Anyone else see the save Gordon just pulled off from Zat Knight? really is one of those that would be talked about ad inifinitum had it have been a top 4 team keeper. Brilliant.
Even Channel4 news showed it.Anyone else see the save Gordon just pulled off from Zat Knight? really is one of those that would be talked about ad inifinitum had it have been a top 4 team keeper. Brilliant.
Truly stunning, and once everyone else has seen it on SSN and MOTD I think it will be talked about.
Whisper it quietly but Leeds, that's dirty Leeds, are up to second in the Championship.
Whisper it quietly but Leeds, that's dirty Leeds, are up to second in the Championship.
Whisper it quietly but Leeds, that's dirty Leeds, are up to second in the Championship.
Here's your weekly Barcelona rout video. This time 5-1 away against local rivals Espanyol once again spolied by the annoying Geordie tool in the commentary box.
http://www.footytube.com/video/espanyol-barcelona-dec18-68247
enjoy
Any link?
Seamen's against Peschisolido was better
Fantastic reactions and reflexes but I had imagined he had to stretch more to get it - it was very close to him. Don't get me wrong, it was a magnificent save, especially as Zat hit it at point-blank range but I'd put Schmeichael v Vienna (was it?) in the 90's and Seaman's save against Sheff Utd a few years back above it.Same here.
Bosnich v Coventry tops them all.
Was that the one where he turned in mid-air?
Was that the one where he turned in mid-air?
That's the one. I'm not sure if it's online anywhere but it was the best ever.
Was that the one where he turned in mid-air?
That's the one. I'm not sure if it's online anywhere but it was the best ever.
Bosnich v Coventry tops them all.
Cahill is absoloute quality. Also, Warnock isn't really better than Baines is he?
Cahill is absoloute quality. Also, Warnock isn't really better than Baines is he?
Can see mancini getting the boot and MON going thereLet's hope so.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA MILNER OFF HA!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA MILNER OFF HA!!!!!
Aren't Everton above us? I know what you mean though. We're competing with Everton at the moment so could do with a Man City equaliser.
i know that Everton are more of a competitor right now but its not as if either of us will go down, i dont see how any true football fan cant rejoice in seeing citeh fuck up again
i know that Everton are more of a competitor right now but its not as if either of us will go down, i dont see how any true football fan cant rejoice in seeing citeh fuck up again
i know that Everton are more of a competitor right now but its not as if either of us will go down, i dont see how any true football fan cant rejoice in seeing citeh fuck up again
i know that Everton are more of a competitor right now but its not as if either of us will go down, i dont see how any true football fan cant rejoice in seeing citeh fuck up again
So you prefer Man U or Chelsea? Somebody has to win the league. Would prefer it to be Arsenal but have Man City as my second choice ahead of Chelsea or Man U. City's fans aren't nearly as vile.
i know that Everton are more of a competitor right now but its not as if either of us will go down, i dont see how any true football fan cant rejoice in seeing citeh fuck up again
City's fans aren't nearly as vile.
I think most Man City fans would prefer the days when they were an up and down side but with heart than this bunch of mercenaries.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA MILNER OFF HA!!!!!
Yeah hahahaah, and we've got Stephen Ireland as a replacement. They are 2 points off top and we are 4 off relegation. Milner won't care about coming off anyway, it's freezing cold and he's on too much money.
What French player?
Most Citeh fans I know have retreated into the bunker marked 'You're All Just Jealous'.
What French player?
So it is! I saw this and assumed it was at the Sty:
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/50573000/jpg/_50573082_birminghamshowap.jpg)
Thank shit for that
Wolves now 1-0. Anyone betting Wigan might get back into their match?
Sorry legion..........Wolves 1 - 0, Stephen Ward a well deserved lead
John Terry is now allowed the handle the ball.Explain?
Andy Gray stating that Wolves are showing that if you come to Anfield and press the home team they struggle. I thought the standard way of playing against Liverpool at their place was to capitulate straight away and adore the home fans whilst dismissing your own.
Nailed on penalty, one problem though it was Terry the wanker.John Terry is now allowed the handle the ball.Explain?
It seems that every team apart from the Villa are getting vital points where as we are just canon fodder for any team who has been struggling recently.
At least Lplop are as shit as us at the moment. That's the only positive around at the moment.
We could well be bottom in a game or two.
We could well be bottom in a game or two.
But we almost certainly won't be.
I'm as worried as the next man, and as angry as well, but about 75 percent of the posters on here need to take a bit of a chill pill. Someone referred casually to "as we're almost certainly going to be relegated" in a post the other day.
If this were spring 1940, you'd all be learning German, stacking your wirelesses up at the police station in anticipation and disowning all your Jewish friends already.
As stated, the worry over relegation is that there might be worse teams in the league but those teams will fight for every point. Our players are not doing that at the moment.
But we almost certainly won't be.
I'm as worried as the next man, and as angry as well, but about 75 percent of the posters on here need to take a bit of a chill pill. Someone referred casually to "as we're almost certainly going to be relegated" in a post the other day.
If this were spring 1940, you'd all be learning German, stacking your wirelesses up at the police station in anticipation and disowning all your Jewish friends already.
Isn't there some internet law about this?
But anyway the difference is in 1940 we could pick up a gun and do something about it. All we can do here is mutter on the sidelines and know what is wrong and hope someone can do something about it. Whether that is the players deciding to have some pride, the manager getting it turned around or the chairman doing what is right, (whatever that turns out to be).
But we almost certainly won't be.
I'm as worried as the next man, and as angry as well, but about 75 percent of the posters on here need to take a bit of a chill pill. Someone referred casually to "as we're almost certainly going to be relegated" in a post the other day.
If this were spring 1940, you'd all be learning German, stacking your wirelesses up at the police station in anticipation and disowning all your Jewish friends already.
Isn't there some internet law about this?
But anyway the difference is in 1940 we could pick up a gun and do something about it. All we can do here is mutter on the sidelines and know what is wrong and hope someone can do something about it. Whether that is the players deciding to have some pride, the manager getting it turned around or the chairman doing what is right, (whatever that turns out to be).
The diffference in 1940 would be Martin O'Neil would'nt be around to blame.
Paulie you aint got a clue. The bottom 3 have started to show some steel and Villa have a bunch of overpaid wankers playing with their cigar out waiting for the manager to get the bullet. Who would you back against blues and wigan and wham away? it wouldnt be villa.
Paulie you aint got a clue. The bottom 3 have started to show some steel and Villa have a bunch of overpaid wankers playing with their cigar out waiting for the manager to get the bullet.
Why?
Dave i take it you watched the last 12 months of games. Tell me honestly if you would fancy villa to win against those teams?
Dave i take it you watched the last 12 months of games. Tell me honestly if you would fancy villa to win against those teams?
We could well be bottom in a game or two.
But we almost certainly won't be.
I'm as worried as the next man, and as angry as well, but about 75 percent of the posters on here need to take a bit of a chill pill. Someone referred casually to "as we're almost certainly going to be relegated" in a post the other day.
If this were spring 1940, you'd all be learning German, stacking your wirelesses up at the police station in anticipation and disowning all your Jewish friends already.
Dave i take it you watched the last 12 months of games. Tell me honestly if you would fancy villa to win against those teams?
wigan lose nzogbia for 3 games, so some good news .... ;-)
Interesting thing about the chelsea game was they were shocking and getting a pasting by bolton until they scored. then the confidence flooded back and it was a different team. now they're not a crap team, but lose a bit of self-belief and you can look awful. Something we should bear in mind i think.......
Interesting thing about the chelsea game was they were shocking and getting a pasting by bolton until they scored. then the confidence flooded back and it was a different team. now they're not a crap team, but lose a bit of self-belief and you can look awful. Something we should bear in mind i think.......
Nicely taken goal by Luke Moore last night.
Baggies should have had a pen, stonewall Neville brings down Dorrans and he should have been sent off..............
Disgraceful, disgusting.
Neville off and a penalty to WBA was the only possible legitimate decision to make. The ref had a perfect view and he cheated West Brom.
Disgraceful, disgusting.
Neville off and a penalty to WBA was the only possible legitimate decision to make. The ref had a perfect view and he cheated West Brom.
Yes. Isn't life grand?
1-2 to utd. I guess this is the problem with West Brom and why they keep on losing matches they should win.
Very short term view that no doubt conditioned by our current predictment. Normally would you not want manure stuffed?
Very short term view that no doubt conditioned by our current predictment. Normally would you not want manure stuffed?
Very short term view that no doubt conditioned by our current predictment. Normally would you not want manure stuffed?
Call me crazy and old-fashioned, but I can't stand West Brom.
Very short term view that no doubt conditioned by our current predictment. Normally would you not want manure stuffed?
Call me crazy and old-fashioned, but I can't stand West Brom.
Well that's fair enough. I , on the other hand, would rather have Baggies than Blues in the PL !
They're just having a great time of it at the moment. They may just stay up but will go the way of ipswich, Albion, Hull etc etc in their second season and go down.
Liverpool. Now that's funny.
Everton looking just as fucked as us without close to any of the distractions we've had to contend with. Moyes has had close to a fully fit squad all season. Now 2-0 down at Stoke
Everton looking just as fucked as us without close to any of the distractions we've had to contend with. Moyes has had close to a fully fit squad all season. Now 2-0 down at Stoke
Cahill off to play in some tournament in Asia from tomorrow, too.
If Fulham draw we drop another place.
West Ham 2 up.
Could have done without that.
West Ham 2 up.
Could have done without that.
Well, the way I see it, we're more likely to get out of it than Wolves, and Wolves going down would be fun. Plus they're owed a defeat after the improbable victory at Anfield, who we want to suffer as well, so it all evens out nicely.
I love how Blackpool always leave at least 2 or 3 men upfield when defending corners. It's bold but it makes so much sense, the opposition then can't afford to commit as many forward and you're less likely to concede. Always used to frustrate me when MON would bring everybody back for corners, we'd clear it and the opposition would just get it straight back and attack again.
I love how Blackpool always leave at least 2 or 3 men upfield when defending corners. It's bold but it makes so much sense, the opposition then can't afford to commit as many forward and you're less likely to concede. Always used to frustrate me when MON would bring everybody back for corners, we'd clear it and the opposition would just get it straight back and attack again.
I heard something about the season before last we let one goal in from a set-piece all season.
What a bizarre statistic - Everton's first defeat away from home since we beat them in August.
St Andrews is looking a picture as ever. A really depressing, grey, brutalist, Soviet era kind of picture.
Could get even worse tonight, though I'm banking on Arsenal to slam the dogshitters. We really don't want to finish the weekend off in the bottom three.Can't slip into the bottom 3 mate even if the knuckledraggers take a point tonight as we have scored more goals than wigan so they would drop into the bottom 3 not us. Small beer i know but we have to take every positive we can at this time.
Sunderland winning 3-0 today can't be good for Wednesday, they will be on a high, although surely go into the game favourites which away from home could be troublesome.
Could get even worse tonight, though I'm banking on Arsenal to slam the dogshitters. We really don't want to finish the weekend off in the bottom three.Can't slip into the bottom 3 mate even if the knuckledraggers take a point tonight as we have scored more goals than wigan so they would drop into the bottom 3 not us. Small beer i know but we have to take every positive we can at this time.
From the Guardian's online match commentary:QuoteSt Andrews is looking a picture as ever. A really depressing, grey, brutalist, Soviet era kind of picture.
The build up for Arsenals 3rd was absolute quality.The finish was'nt bad either haha
35,400 at Anfield yesterday. Greatest fans in the world?
35,400 at Anfield yesterday. Greatest fans in the world?
Christ, is that correct?
9,000 empty seats?
35,400 at Anfield yesterday. Greatest fans in the world?
Christ, is that correct?
Yep. Not sure how many fans Bolton took but that end where the Liverpool fans were had plenty of empty seats.
9,000 empty seats?
35,400 at Anfield yesterday. Greatest fans in the world?
Christ, is that correct?
Yep. Not sure how many fans Bolton took but that end where the Liverpool fans were had plenty of empty seats.
9,000 empty seats?
35,400 at Anfield yesterday. Greatest fans in the world?
Christ, is that correct?
Yep. Not sure how many fans Bolton took but that end where the Liverpool fans were had plenty of empty seats.
9,000 empty seats?
It's hard to get across from Norway at the moment.
Barton only getting yellow for a stud launching tackle - should have had red. Really dispice that ....
More luck than anything that he doesn't snap a shin with that type of tackle. A bit like the Ashley Young tackle (he has only made one, right?), and got red.Barton only getting yellow for a stud launching tackle - should have had red. Really dispice that ....
Thought it was a proper old fashioned physical tackle myself. Wasn't two footed and he won the ball
The type of tackle that would have been allowed a few years back. I didn't see a lot wrong with it. He wasn't late, he won the ball, wasn't two footed and I don't think he really launched into it.
The type of tackle that would have been allowed a few years back. I didn't see a lot wrong with it. He wasn't late, he won the ball, wasn't two footed and I don't think he really launched into it.
The games gone soft. Can't put a decent thunderous tackle in any more, even if you do win the ball cleanly. And what about Ashley Cole screaming like a baby today when he was tackled and hardly touched. What a c&*t.
Ashley Cole simply cheated yesterday. He'd realised the ref was dishing out cards all of the shop and decided to try and cash in.
Darius just scored again
Darius just scored again
I think I heard one of the Sky bods say today that a Darius' team has never lost a game in which he has scored a goal.
Darius just scored again
I think I heard one of the Sky bods say today that a Darius' team has never lost a game in which he has scored a goal.
Ooh, thirty seconds too slow there TV!
Ooh, thirty seconds too slow there TV!
hold on a minute funny man...I'm sure I posted before you. Are you abuse Mod privileges again?
Ooh, thirty seconds too slow there TV!
hold on a minute funny man...I'm sure I posted before you. Are you abuse Mod privileges again?
Mod privileges don't extend to time travel unfortunately!
KO when?
And he wouldn't reopen the bars.The bars closed 2 hours before kick off that night!KO when?
That was hilarious:
Female reporter: how soon until kick off Mr Ellis?
Doug: 5 minutes
Female reporter: doesn't the referee need at least 15 minutes notice?
Doug: yes.......
Feeeeed the Hare...
We drop down to fourth from bottom if Fulham win.Thats not looking likely........Im going for a draw or the Baggies to sneak it 1 - 0
Carson fuck up, 1-0.
The Prem Table is no oil painting just now :-[Look at it upside down.
The Prem Table is no oil painting just now :-[Look at it upside down.
1 - 1 @ Old Trafford and at Cardiff
Blackpool have equalised.
We just moved up a place in the BBC "Now!" table :)
16 Aston Villa 20 -14 21
17 Birmingham 20 -6 20
18 West Ham 21 -11 20
19 Wigan 20 -15 20
20 Wolves 20 -14 18
If albion carrying on conceding like this Villa will go ahead of them on goal defence, come on the cottagers! :)
If albion carrying on conceding like this Villa will go ahead of them on goal defence, come on the cottagers! :)
Not unless they have started deducting a point for talking funny like, they have one more than us.
We just moved up a place in the BBC "Now!" table :)
16 Aston Villa 20 -14 21
17 Birmingham 20 -6 20
18 West Ham 21 -11 20
19 Wigan 20 -15 20
20 Wolves 20 -14 18
Is this what we've come to - showing parts of the table starting at 16th?
We just moved up a place in the BBC "Now!" table :)
16 Aston Villa 20 -14 21
17 Birmingham 20 -6 20
18 West Ham 21 -11 20
19 Wigan 20 -15 20
20 Wolves 20 -14 18
Is this what we've come to - showing parts of the table starting at 16th?
If I'd done it 5 mins earlier it would have started at 17th, so we can't complain really.
Now Blackpool hit the post.
Set of good results for us. It stops the mid-table teams getting too far away.
Three points tomorrow and we'll be motoring.
Is it just me or does it seem like every result this year has been designed to fuck us up?
It puts us under a Hell of a lot of pressure again. The results today were a disaster. Again.No more pressure than before. we have to get our own results right. It does not matter how others do.
Right now I feel like I could take on the whole Empire myself
Blackpool are on free fall, I know they have more home games to come but it doesn't look good for the seasiders.They don't like playing at home,more suited to the counter attack.
Set of good results for us. It stops the mid-table teams getting too far away.
Three points tomorrow and we'll be motoring.
Didn't realise how tight the league is from 6th place onwards. Beat Sunderland tomorrow (who are 6th) and we're only 6 points behind them.
Didn't realise how tight the league is from 6th place onwards. Beat Sunderland tomorrow (who are 6th) and we're only 6 points behind them.
6 pts is quite a lot at this stage in the season
Blackpool are on free fall, I know they have more home games to come but it doesn't look good for the seasiders.
Didn't realise how tight the league is from 6th place onwards. Beat Sunderland tomorrow (who are 6th) and we're only 6 points behind them.
Foster made some great saves, kept them in it.Foster has done that several times this season. I wonder how long it will be until one of the big boys come calling.
Foster made some great saves, kept them in it.Foster has done that several times this season. I wonder how long it will be until one of the big boys come calling.
I know Man Utd let him go but he would be an improvement for Arsenal and Spuds.Foster made some great saves, kept them in it.Foster has done that several times this season. I wonder how long it will be until one of the big boys come calling.
erm, didn't 1 of the Sky4TM let him go ?
we missed out there
It could be worse, we could be West Ham.They lost 5-0 we lost 6-0??
It could be worse, we could be West Ham.They lost 5-0 we lost 6-0??
How many premier league fans are actually happy this season? By the very nature of the league being more competitive, any team seems to be able to get a result against anyone, and no one is happy. Red Manx cockneys are complaining as they are boring. Everton fans are gutted their team cant score. Spuds fans still seem to be expecting better things. Arsenal fans are whining their team cant get results against the big teams. Liverpool fans are deluded. Newcastle fans are expecting more, etc etc etc. Chelsea...well.
Are Milwall complete rubbish?
Is the picture on espn ok? It has gone on the dodgy Swedish channel in the pub.
Is the picture on espn ok? It has gone on the dodgy Swedish channel in the pub.
No we just lost pictures/sound for about 2 mins, back now
AHAHAHAHAHA Shitcastle down to 10 men.Pardew will be all the ****** under the sun now, those Geordies have got memories of flies anyway.
I know we're supposed to say he's a breath of fresh air etc etc, but does anyone else find Ian Holloway a bit of a moody prick who has started to believe his own publicity?
There was contact in the box and the player went down. It's a penalty.
There was contact in the box and the player went down. It's a penalty.
There was contact in the box and the player went down. It's a penalty.
Yes there was contact a step and than the plyer remembered the contact and went down!
Everything Clive Tyldsley says makes me want to stab my eyes out.
I hate Man Utd and have nothing against Dalgleish but this is funny. I felt the players and fans never gave Hodgson a chance there (sound familiar?)
Definite red.Disagree
Everything Clive Tyldsley says makes me want to stab my eyes out.
Tell me about it. He really is taking being an annoying twat to a new level today.
No way, that was a definite red without a shadow of a doubt and the referee got it right.and your view if Reo goes in the same way on Ferguson next week
No way, that was a definite red without a shadow of a doubt and the referee got it right.There clearly was a shadow of a doubt given the way its divided opinion. Carricks reaction also made it look worse.
No way, that was a definite red without a shadow of a doubt and the referee got it right.and your view if Reo goes in the same way on Ferguson next week
lol.........very good Aftab,,,,,,No way, that was a definite red without a shadow of a doubt and the referee got it right.and your view if Reo goes in the same way on Ferguson next week
That would be perfectly legitimate tacke especially if we win thw ball and score from it!
Just seen the replay, Gerrard jumped in, two feet, off the ground, studs showing, caught the player.
Straight red.
If Reo goes for the same thing, I'll be fuming but when I've calmed down it'll still be clear it's a red.
No way, that was a definite red without a shadow of a doubt and the referee got it right.and your view if Reo goes in the same way on Ferguson next week
Why is that fat Albion idiot wearing that tie?
By the look on his face, King Kenny has been necking piss again.
Oh, and also, it's against Liverpool, so the decision should be applauded.
I would be fucked off if Houllier wore a blue & white scarf on the touchline.
I would be fucked off if Houllier wore a blue & white scarf on the touchline.
What about his red and white Liverpool one?
Watching Madrid vs Villarreal and it's a brilliant game, 2-2 at the moment.Was Ronaldo off side then Chris...............
Great goal by Kaka............4 - 2Watching Madrid vs Villarreal and it's a brilliant game, 2-2 at the moment.Was Ronaldo off side then Chris...............
Joke red that just an honest challenge.
Joke red that just an honest challenge.
Gerrard has been getting away with that sort of challenge for years simply because he is 'Stevie G'. It was a red and he should have had many more over the years, let's not forget he also has a habit of falling dramatically in the penalty area so I don't care whether Berbatov dived or not on this occasion.
I would argue that they do in this case.Joke red that just an honest challenge.
Gerrard has been getting away with that sort of challenge for years simply because he is 'Stevie G'. It was a red and he should have had many more over the years, let's not forget he also has a habit of falling dramatically in the penalty area so I don't care whether Berbatov dived or not on this occasion.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Joke red that just an honest challenge.
Gerrard has been getting away with that sort of challenge for years simply because he is 'Stevie G'. It was a red and he should have had many more over the years,
30 goals in 27 matches this season and 9 assists.
Messi - 28 goals in 26 matches and 15 assists.
I absolutely agree. Maybe if other refs were able to remover their tongues from Gerrard's arse in the past and treat him like any other player he might now be a player that realises that lunging in with both feet off the ground is not acceptable.
Nothing wrong with the challenge by the Crawley player, it was on Robbie Savage.It was a cracking tackle by matt tubbs ;-)
have Crawley won? I hate these clubs from that part of England but still good to see this sort of thing in the Cup.Yep
have Crawley won? I hate these clubs from that part of England but still good to see this sort of thing in the Cup.
have Crawley won? I hate these clubs from that part of England but still good to see this sort of thing in the Cup.
Arrogant snobs lovejoy. Crawley, Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Guildford etc
Having said that I had a girlfriend in Haywards Heath many many years ago and she was very nice!
I'm temporarily blowing bubbles.
Looks like the Blose official travel club took both minibuses tonight
I'm temporarily blowing bubbles.
I hope he enjoys it.I'm temporarily blowing bubbles.
I hope he enjoys it. :-)
I just came
Blues are basically just Ben Foster aren't they?
Blues are basically just Ben Foster aren't they?
He's a good keeper.
i think if we can get the right midfield picked on sunday we will win it comfortably blose are awful all over the pitch!Right midfield?!?! Need to put them away too!!!!!!!!
Midfield for me would be Hogg, Bannan and Petrov. Those three can pass and create perfectly well.
Midfield for me would be Hogg, Bannan and Petrov. Those three can pass and create perfectly well.
Impressive away following for Blues, though. Must be about 1200 of them there.they sold 2400 out of 2900...
3 in midfield?
Midfield for me would be Hogg, Bannan and Petrov. Those three can pass and create perfectly well.
sounds good to me, with the option of cokers energy off the bench second half
I too would start with NRC, Bannan and Petrov, with Albrighton and Downing wide.
Arrogant snobs lovejoy. Crawley, Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Guildford etc
Having said that I had a girlfriend in Haywards Heath many many years ago and she was very nice!
Hogg? Really? Is he our 3rd best midfielder in that role? If Delph is still out I'd go NRC, Petrov, Bannan.
It is nice to hear a bit more about Liverpool at half time.I'm surprised they didn't mention Beckham training with Spurs
Arrogant snobs lovejoy. Crawley, Tonbridge, Tunbridge, Guildford etc
Having said that I had a girlfriend in Haywards Heath many many years ago and she was very nice!
Oi Aftab! That's Royal Tunbridge Wells to you my man.
Oh, and Tonbridge is full of chavs shopping at Lidl and Poundstretcher. Nice castle though.
Has Gardner ever scored from a free kick other than that grass cutter for us once?
Has Gardner ever scored from a free kick other than that grass cutter for us once?
Has Gardner ever scored from a free kick other than that grass cutter for us once?
he scored two in two games for us one at home v wet spam and one away to spuds in the 4-4 fuck up
Has Gardner ever scored from a free kick other than that grass cutter for us once?
he scored two in two games for us one at home v wet spam and one away to spuds in the 4-4 fuck up
Also scored a rather pleasing volley up at the Reebok about four years ago.
why do we sell our talent to them ????
why do we sell our talent to them ????
Has Gardner ever scored from a free kick other than that grass cutter for us once?
he scored two in two games for us one at home v wet spam and one away to spuds in the 4-4 fuck up
Also scored a rather pleasing volley up at the Reebok about four years ago.
And one at Boro IIRC.
why do we sell our talent to them ????
to be fair we could do with gardner in our midfield now
What the fuck was Obinna doing?! What a twat
Has Gardner ever scored from a free kick other than that grass cutter for us once?
he scored two in two games for us one at home v wet spam and one away to spuds in the 4-4 fuck up
Also scored a rather pleasing volley up at the Reebok about four years ago.
And one at Boro IIRC.
I said from a FREE KICK?
How much luck are they having in this competition.
Has Gardner ever scored from a free kick other than that grass cutter for us once?
he scored two in two games for us one at home v wet spam and one away to spuds in the 4-4 fuck up
Also scored a rather pleasing volley up at the Reebok about four years ago.
And one at Boro IIRC.
I said from a FREE KICK?
How much luck are they having in this competition.
If they get to the final, the Arse will stuff them as the press keeps going on about the lack of silverware at the emirates.
Yes I know. I was responding to the comment about the volley at Bolton. That wasn't a free kick either. No need to shout...
OKAY DON'T SHOUT, SHOUTY MAN!
I blame myself for starting to watch it just as they were lining up for that corner.
I'm not watching it now.
But no one listens otherwise.... :'( :'( :'(
Wonder what sendu makes of it all.
West Ham stopped playing after about 40 minutes and they seem determined not to start playing again.
That was a definite penalty.
Breaks.
Yer.
'Eart.
What happened?
I switched over earlier.
What happened?
I switched over earlier.
Zigic looks a little like our Savo, he just doesn't score as often ;)
Big Eck claiming he should have 6 mins injury time.
Zigic looks a little like our Savo, he just doesn't score as often ;)
That is unfair. Savo could play football. Zigic is a tall tree trunk that can move around slowly.
Zigic looks a little like our Savo, he just doesn't score as often ;)
That is unfair. Savo could play football. Zigic is a tall tree trunk that can move around slowly.
I completely agree, Savo was fantastic and as we all saw at Wembley in 1996 he could strike a ball... Zigic just looks a bit like him, I still can't believe we were in for him last year and that he scored against us in the QF.
Do away goals count double? If so I've a horrible feeling they'll go through on a last minute 1-0
Big Eck claiming he should have 6 mins injury time.
Dunno where he got that from.
Do away goals count double? If so I've a horrible feeling they'll go through on a last minute 1-0
Carlsberg don't do goalkeepers...lol nice.
... But Fosters do!!!
"supporters should be patient a little while longer - sunshine days are just around the corner."
Ken Wheldon - March 18th 1988
Sending off seemed to kill them but we have to watch them on set pieces sunday
We're the fickle one's remember!
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,384826
The scum will be under lots of pressure now in the 2nd leg at home... they're bad enough as it is so the more pressure could put off their 'talented' and 'skilled' players.
The sty dwellers will still get to Wembley. West Ham are awful, particularly away and Blues rarely lose at home.
We're the fickle one's remember!Apparently the reason they lost tonight was that they "had one eye on the game on Sunday", which makes sense I guess. Tonight was a semi-final, Sunday is their cup final.
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,384826
The scum will be under lots of pressure now in the 2nd leg at home... they're bad enough as it is so the more pressure could put off their 'talented' and 'skilled' players.
SPOT ONWe're the fickle one's remember!Apparently the reason they lost tonight was that they "had one eye on the game on Sunday", which makes sense I guess. Tonight was a semi-final, Sunday is their cup final.
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,384826
The scum will be under lots of pressure now in the 2nd leg at home... they're bad enough as it is so the more pressure could put off their 'talented' and 'skilled' players.
What the fuck has Ridgewell got tattooed all down his arms?"I wish I was still playing for the Villa"
Just looks like a load of random squiggles and doodles.
Didn't they start out as to how many kids he had?
I saw nothing in that game to worry us.
West Ham are dreadful, but still had them on the ropes in the first half.
The Hammers lack of confidence and willingness to hang on the lead made them sit back too much.
Upfront, their service to Jerome was non-existant.
Whoever told Keith Fahey that he's a Premiership footballer?
What the fuck has Ridgewell got tattooed all down his arms?"I wish I was still playing for the Villa"
Just looks like a load of random squiggles and doodles.
just nice to be in with a chance a chaps ;)We're the fickle one's remember!Apparently the reason they lost tonight was that they "had one eye on the game on Sunday", which makes sense I guess. Tonight was a semi-final, Sunday is their cup final.
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,384826
The scum will be under lots of pressure now in the 2nd leg at home... they're bad enough as it is so the more pressure could put off their 'talented' and 'skilled' players.
See that seems to be another response that doesn't answer the question asked. If you had to chose, which would you take? As it is a sign of simply how small time Blues fans still think that beating Villa is equally, if not more important that being in the final of a cup competition. It would depress me as the manager that 1, beating Villa, and 2, having a scrap with Villa fans seems to be the raison d'etre of the fans.Would rather beat west ham and have a day out at wembley,west ham is the bigger game at the mo....
Indeed, it is a pretty novel feeling to be in the semi final of a competition for Blues. Unfortunately most Blues fans would happily be knocked out in favour for winning against Villa on Sunday. That must be a bit depressing Sheldon?
Stop bigging yourself up that much mate....Indeed, it is a pretty novel feeling to be in the semi final of a competition for Blues. Unfortunately most Blues fans would happily be knocked out in favour for winning against Villa on Sunday. That must be a bit depressing Sheldon?
Do you actually know any Blues fans? None of the ones I know think like that.
They're hardly going to admit it to you, a Villa fan, are they?Indeed, it is a pretty novel feeling to be in the semi final of a competition for Blues. Unfortunately most Blues fans would happily be knocked out in favour for winning against Villa on Sunday. That must be a bit depressing Sheldon?
Do you actually know any Blues fans? None of the ones I know think like that.
i suppose the nearest candidate would have been Taylor or Little maybe even Gregory.
Chris, spoke to 4 today, 2 season ticket holders. 2 admitted they would take being knocked out the cup to beat Villa in the league, one refused the question and one said win them both.
Eh?
1 - 0 Ipswich
1 - 0 Ipswich
Come on, Arsenal!!!
Whilst I'm all for the plucky underdog, I can't stomach the thought of a shock result and all of sudden Blues have a shit Championship side standing between them and an open-top bus parade.
1 - 0 Ipswich
Come on, Arsenal!!!
Whilst I'm all for the plucky underdog, I can't stomach the thought of a shock result and all of sudden Blues have a shit Championship side standing between them and an open-top bus parade.
Same for me.
Arsenal will surely have too much for them at the Emirates, they've twatted some decent european teams 6-0 there this season.
master stroke from Kenny D resting Stevie G.Doh..........he is suspended
master stroke from Kenny D resting Stevie G.hes banned mate
Two great results for the game of football.
Two great results for the game of football.
2 terrible results tonight. Why would anyone want Blackpool to keep winning? Liverpool will be ahead of us come May and if we are to stay up then Blackpool winning is not favourable surely.Why are Liverpool guaranteed to be ahead of us?
True. Not good if your a villa fan though really. Another 3 points for our relegation rivals and a result that could help small heath win the cup.Three points lost for another of our relegation rivals though.
Another 3 points for our relegation rivals and a result that could help small heath win the cup.NURSE!! When you've finished with Risso, there's another one here.
All hail King Kenny.
Because I think it is a fair assumption that after 38 games Blackpool will finish below Liverpool and therefore whilst I accept that we may catch both it is Blackpool who I think are most catchable. It is a fair assumption....isn't it?2 terrible results tonight. Why would anyone want Blackpool to keep winning? Liverpool will be ahead of us come May and if we are to stay up then Blackpool winning is not favourable surely.Why are Liverpool guaranteed to be ahead of us?
I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we finish ahead of both Liverpool and Blackpool.
Blackpool beating Liverpool (nay, doing the double over Liverpool) is brilliant. Can't see why anyone wouldn't want it to happen.
All hail King Kenny.Perfect, isn't it.
It would also have been a fair assumption a couple of seasons ago that Newcastle would finish ahead of Hull.Because I think it is a fair assumption that after 38 games Blackpool will finish below Liverpool and therefore whilst I accept that we may catch both it is Blackpool who I think are most catchable. It is a fair assumption....isn't it?2 terrible results tonight. Why would anyone want Blackpool to keep winning? Liverpool will be ahead of us come May and if we are to stay up then Blackpool winning is not favourable surely.Why are Liverpool guaranteed to be ahead of us?
I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we finish ahead of both Liverpool and Blackpool.
Blackpool beating Liverpool (nay, doing the double over Liverpool) is brilliant. Can't see why anyone wouldn't want it to happen.
It would also have been a fair assumption a couple of seasons ago that Newcastle would finish ahead of Hull.Because I think it is a fair assumption that after 38 games Blackpool will finish below Liverpool and therefore whilst I accept that we may catch both it is Blackpool who I think are most catchable. It is a fair assumption....isn't it?2 terrible results tonight. Why would anyone want Blackpool to keep winning? Liverpool will be ahead of us come May and if we are to stay up then Blackpool winning is not favourable surely.Why are Liverpool guaranteed to be ahead of us?
I wouldn't be in the least surprised if we finish ahead of both Liverpool and Blackpool.
Blackpool beating Liverpool (nay, doing the double over Liverpool) is brilliant. Can't see why anyone wouldn't want it to happen.
For now, I'm going to hope that Liverpool continue to look rubbish. Because it's really funny.
Blackpool pulling away from us lol
Pass me the crack pipe
Am I the only one wanting L-pool to lose? They are in the sh*t as much as us.
Am I the only one wanting L-pool to lose? They are in the sh*t as much as us.
Aaah the sweet sweet smell of schadenfreude. I always want liverpool to lose, except when they're playing Blues when I want both teams to lose.
King Kenny, more like King Kong.
Sonia will be the next manager.
That Blackpool result is a terrible one for us. It's getting harder and harder to see which team will replace us in the bottom 3.Why not Liverpool?
Am I the only one wanting L-pool to lose? They are in the sh*t as much as us.
Aaah the sweet sweet smell of schadenfreude. I always want liverpool to lose, except when they're playing Blues when I want both teams to lose.
Is it just me who thinks Jonjo Shelvey looks laughably bad? Every time I've seen him play he looks hopeless, each one of our young lads who've played this year look miles ahead of him.If that's the best they've got outside the first eleven, then they really are fucked.
Tamworth 3 2 up at the death.
and Jamie Carragher is an annoying prick on Soccer Saturday.
No Scott Parker for West Ham, let's hope it's a bad injury.
Got a fiver on blackpool to win 3-2 at the tesco bags at 33/1. Only 4 goals to go!
Arse 1-0 up. Wayne Bridge not started too well.
Bloody Hell Bridge was shit there. Nil-two.
Bloody Hell Bridge was shit there. Nil-two.
90k a week for that!
Bloody Hell Bridge was shit there. Nil-two.
90k a week for that!
I think he's gotta be the luckiest guy alive,two big money moves,90 k a week,and i've hardley ever seen him play well.
Bloody Hell Bridge was shit there. Nil-two.
90k a week for that!
I think he's gotta be the luckiest guy alive,two big money moves,90 k a week,and i've hardley ever seen him play well.
I think we lucked out not getting Bridge.
Avram Grant is not giving a post match interview. Surprise, surprise. Really feel he's been treated badly.
O'Neill working for Sullivan, Gold and Brady. That'll end well.
Bridge over troubled water.
Tomorrow - Villa win, Everton win, Meteorite hits WHL. If Carlsberg make Sunday's...
so a bloke who hasnt started a game this season, gets chucked in a relegation team against Arsenal and has a bad game, i am no big fan of Bridge but to write him off on tonights performance is a bit rare
sorry mate, i need a drinkso a bloke who hasnt started a game this season, gets chucked in a relegation team against Arsenal and has a bad game, i am no big fan of Bridge but to write him off on tonights performance is a bit rare
Stop being raesonable hawkeye!
so a bloke who hasnt started a game this season, gets chucked in a relegation team against Arsenal and has a bad game, i am no big fan of Bridge but to write him off on tonights performance is a bit rareWhat's his excuse for the previous three years?
I see the banner merchants at Anfield have been busy.
1 - 0 Liverpool..........Merieles
Its turning into Howard v Liverpool so far, he did strike it well though1 - 0 Liverpool..........Merieles
Watched that and wished we had someone who could hit the ball so cleanly and true...
The Liverpool vomit-fest has started. Lingering shots of King Kenny, the dulcet tones of You'll never walk alone ringing out, soft focus panning across the crowd.
Come on Everton.
1 - 0 Liverpool..........Merieles
Watched that and wished we had someone who could hit the ball so cleanly and true...
Coopers injury has jizzed his ceiling because Beckford does it again.
Coopers injury has jizzed his ceiling because Beckford does it again.
Beckford proving he CAN do it at the highest level, astute signing by Moyes
Its 5 goals in 19 games and he has come on as sub in 13 of thoseCoopers injury has jizzed his ceiling because Beckford does it again.
Beckford proving he CAN do it at the highest level, astute signing by Moyes
TBH if he had missed that one ....... and is that 2 goals in about 20 odd appearances. Even Heskey has better then that type of strike rate.
Everton singing the City is ours. Can't make out what they replace Fuck off Small Heath with though.
Benzema is on for Madrid, it looks like a farewell appearance to me, you can tell his heart is in B6
We'd still find things to moan about on here
Fuck me but Barca are good though eh?
Would you get bored with watching your team stuff everyone week in week out?
Nope.
We'd still find things to moan about on here
I can just see it.
That Busquets is just a poor mans Petrov and bloody messi needs to look up more when he's on those runs, OK he scored a hatrick but we could have had 8 if he'd played Villa in a couple of times.
First time I have seen Dzeko. Didn't realise he looked like a slightly better Zigic.
First time I have seen Dzeko. Didn't realise he looked like a slightly better Zigic.
"Slightly" better. I'm probably slightly better than Zigic.
A shame they ever left SHA
1 1Makoun?
Now 109 years since Hibs last Scottish Cup.
He is such a quivering tit of shit
Just back from the quarter finals of the Spanish Cup, Madrid derby between Atletico and Real. Pretty poor game, slick goal won it for Mourinho's lot. Bloody cold - no cover on three sides of the Calderon and when it's windy you feckin' well feel it.You live in Madrid? Nice.
A large section of Atleti chanting at Jose, wishing death on him...a bit harsh I thought. Most exciting part of the game when a couple of fans had a bust up in one of the stands which led to them punching each other while tumbling over half a dozen rows of seats.
Just back from the quarter finals of the Spanish Cup, Madrid derby between Atletico and Real. Pretty poor game, slick goal won it for Mourinho's lot. Bloody cold - no cover on three sides of the Calderon and when it's windy you feckin' well feel it.
A large section of Atleti chanting at Jose, wishing death on him...a bit harsh I thought. Most exciting part of the game when a couple of fans had a bust up in one of the stands which led to them punching each other while tumbling over half a dozen rows of seats.
1-0 Liverpool, Torress.
My God Andy Gray is an awful summariser. Before the game they mentioned Reina had gone a while without a clean sheet. What does he say? Does he mention the defensive problems in front of him? Does he mention his off-field doubts about life in England which might be affecting his form? No, he just says "he'll be disappointed with that". Well thanks a fucking bundle for that, Gray.
Blackpool 0 Sunderland 2. Can someone please tell me whether I am happy that Golloway's team is finding their true level, or pissed-off that potato-head & Saint Niall, our accusers, seem to be proving they belong- at least- in the Europa League area............
Blackpool 0 Sunderland 2. Can someone please tell me whether I am happy that Golloway's team is finding their true level, or pissed-off that potato-head & Saint Niall, our accusers, seem to be proving they belong- at least- in the Europa League area............
Blackpool 0 Sunderland 2. Can someone please tell me whether I am happy that Golloway's team is finding their true level, or pissed-off that potato-head & Saint Niall, our accusers, seem to be proving they belong- at least- in the Europa League area............
Holloway has riled me far more than Fistface this week, so I'm glad the carrot-cruncing clart is getting turned over on his own patch. Hopefully their bubble bursts soon.
Fulham 2 up get Carew on
Carew on (58)
Fulham 2 up get Carew on
Carew on (58)
What, so Fulham get another couple?
Get in Toffees back over the dotted lineThat'll do, hold that one there & everything will have gone right for us today.
Bloody hell, West Ham now 2-1 upARRRRRRGH !! Back under we go.Come on Everton
Get in! Everton equalise.I've always had a soft spot for the toffees.Surely its our day please !!
Was Picquionne sent off for the same as what Vidic did at VP? The difference of course is that he plays for WHam and not Man Utd.
Oh dear, look at all those deranged Dogheads giving that young lady lineswoman abuse.
Some players never change -
A draw would be the best result for us. (Blackburn v WBA)
Why isn't Carson the Clown in goal?
Villa reject Benzema scores for Real Madrid.
Blackburn don't look bad, it could be a tough one next week1Two top draw saves from Robinson, along with a 100% penalty. Very lucky. 2-0 Villa Gabby Downing ..
Wilfred Bouma opens the scoring for PSV Eindhoven against VVV Venlo (http://www.footytube.com/video/vvv-venlo-psv-eindhoven-0-3-all-goals-23-01-11-71182)
With a belter of a flying volley. Don't think I ever saw him move that quickly for us.
Just flicked onto the Chelski game. Is Allardyce the co-commentator? Sounds like he is eating a pie when he speaks sometimes.
It means nothing to me.
We won't finish 6th.
Win tommorrow though and we'll only be 2 points off Bolton so don't see why we can't look to finish 7th or 8th.
Crawley 2 Derby County 1 - FT, poor Robbie.
I don't. I like them. Would much prefer to see the 3 w teams go down. West Brom, Wolves and Wirmingham.
I don't. I like them. Would much prefer to see the 3 w teams go down. West Brom, Wolves and Wirmingham.
West Brom, Wolves and Wankers, in other words.
I don't. I like them. Would much prefer to see the 3 w teams go down. West Brom, Wolves and Wirmingham.
West Brom, Wolves and Wankers, in other words.
I would love Sturk and Newcastle to go down. Sadly they won't. Neither will Blues, unless they do something really stupid like sacking McLeish.
It'll be three from...
Albion, Wolves, Wigan, West Ham and Blackpool.
Carr just tripped over the ball. Twat.
I feel sick at the prospect of them getting to Wembley. I'm so nervous for West Ham, and I hate West Ham normally too. Lesser of two evils. Come on you 'Ammers!
Have they had a shot yet?
Have they had a shot yet?
I don't think they're had a shot on goal since Christmas.
Cannot see blose scoring two to force extra time. ::)
Chief football writer Phil McNulty at St Andrew's: "Since I suggested Birmingham were enjoying plenty of possession they have barely had the ball off West Ham in the last 15 minutes. Natives understandably getting restless, especially now they're a goal down..."
Will their vast and loyal support boo them off at half time?
Will their vast and loyal support boo them off at half time?
They did indeed. :-)
Bad news is, they can only really get better in the second half.
Just been over to KRO to see if the inbreds are baying for blood yet, but there's no-one home. Maybe a plane has crashed in Marston Green, wiping them all out.
Is the spelling mistake on their main banner deliberate? "KEPRIGHTON"?!? Hahaha.
I love H&V. We are such a bunch of spiteful arseholes.
I feel sick at the prospect of them getting to Wembley. I'm so nervous for West Ham, and I hate West Ham normally too. Lesser of two evils. Come on you 'Ammers!
I love H&V. We are such a bunch of spiteful arseholes.
Oi. Thats Mr spiteful arsehole if you dont mind ! ;)
Trouble outside before kickoff, say BBC
I love H&V. We are such a bunch of spiteful arseholes.
Oi. Thats Mr spiteful arsehole if you dont mind ! ;)
Artful spyholes?
Trouble outside before kickoff, say BBC
I feel sick at the prospect of them getting to Wembley. I'm so nervous for West Ham, and I hate West Ham normally too. Lesser of two evils. Come on you 'Ammers!
Difficult one for God/the Gods/Karma/whatever you believe in. The world's most horrible football club versus the world's most despicable owners.
Unlucky Craig.Snigger.
Can't say they don't deserve that the way they've come out this half.They don't deserve it.
I love it when the Gods toy with them in this way
Almost as if West Ham came out for the second half thinking it was all over.
Liverpool 1 up
Let's hope Arsenal batter them at Wembley. Have no doubt that they will go through now. Bastards. It was coming though. I'll be surprised to see extra time even.
Can't support a London team
All of a sudden, west ham start playing again.
I couldnt stand them even making the Final,even if they lose,they'll put it on their honours board.One below the Leyland Daf winners.
Can't support a London team
I'd sooner support a team from London than a shower of shit from Hades.
I couldnt stand them even making the Final,even if they lose,they'll put it on their honours board.One below the Leyland Daf winners.
Yeah,suprised they didn't have an open top bus.I couldnt stand them even making the Final,even if they lose,they'll put it on their honours board.One below the Leyland Daf winners.
And below beating us in the quarters. That was their real cup final.
T-Mobile adverts are just a pile of steaming cack, aren't they?just thinking the same in fact all mobile phone adverts are
T-Mobile adverts are just a pile of steaming cack, aren't they?
T-Mobile adverts are just a pile of steaming cack, aren't they?
Is it a variation of random singing in a public place?
Those ads really, really get on my tits.
Got a feeling that this is their Tranmere moment. Losing the away leg, 3-1 down at one point this evening and coming back to win. Maybe even on pens. Bastards.
Come the final its UP THE ARSE!!!
One goal for Wham and Blues will need two, remember. Not over yet.
Ah come on, if they get there it will be a nice day out for them (and their carers), then a bit of hope (its the 'ope that kills ya Tom), then the crushing defeat and heartbreak.
Then relegation.
Got a feeling that this is their Tranmere moment. Losing the away leg, 3-1 down at one point this evening and coming back to win. Maybe even on pens. Bastards.
They lost the away leg 2-1. We were the usless twats he lost 3-1. ;)
One goal for Wham and Blues will need two, remember. Not over yet.
Will they?
One goal for Wham and Blues will need two, remember. Not over yet.
Will they?
No they won't. I'm being a moron. Ignore
One goal for Wham and Blues will need two, remember. Not over yet.
Will they?
No they won't. I'm being a moron. Ignore
From the BBC livetext page "2152: A reminder for anyone writing West Ham off, by the way - a goal for them now and they go through to the final on away goals. Plenty - plenty - still to play for at St Andrew's."
It's not over yet. Neither side can defend.
One goal for Wham and Blues will need two, remember. Not over yet.
Will they?
No they won't. I'm being a moron. Ignore
From the BBC livetext page "2152: A reminder for anyone writing West Ham off, by the way - a goal for them now and they go through to the final on away goals. Plenty - plenty - still to play for at St Andrew's."
True. But blues would still only need one goal to win.
The rags look dead on their feet, they have 15 mins to go, it's like the alamo I tell you.
Blues are through, let's face it.
Straight choice!
Blues in the final v Arsenal
or
Seeing Sullivan Gold and Brady sitting in the Royal Box.
Straight choice!
I can't believe any team with a player as shit as Zigic can get to a cup final!I can't believe a team with a player as shit as Zigic knocked us out of this.
West Ham are really really really really really shite.
They'll probably beat us in April.
West Ham get everything they deserved...sod all they should have put this to bed in the first half.
horrible, the good news is that arse will put out a team to beat them and they will,Yup.
64 page special in the mail tomorrow
"It is a giant of a club that has been sleeping for too long" :puke:
"It is a giant of a club that has been sleeping for too long" :puke:
Commentator. "It's along time for a club who has been sleeping for too long"
FFS they would have had to have been a big club in the past to then be sleeping. Come on Wenger. Get some silverware for the first time in 6 years.
West ham didn't deserve anything though they are truely shite
Bastards! Wish it was us going to Wembley though.
Gardener supports whoever suits him.
Commentator. "It's along time for a club who has been sleeping for too long"
FFS they would have had to have been a big club in the past to then be sleeping. Come on Wenger. Get some silverware for the first time in 6 years.
Commentator. "It's along time for a club who has been sleeping for too long"
FFS they would have had to have been a big club in the past to then be sleeping. Come on Wenger. Get some silverware for the first time in 6 years.
No seriously, I did a rewind on the V+ and the fecker said "It is a giant of a club that has been sleeping for too long"
I remember in 2001 I thought liverpool would wipe the floor with them and the rags could have won, I just hope the arse don't mess it up and they murder them.I'd quite happily go for the same result again.
I remember in 2001 I thought liverpool would wipe the floor with them and the rags could have won, I just hope the arse don't mess it up and they murder them.
I think Blues will win the final.
I think Blues will win the final.
I think Blues will win the final.
Commentator. "It's along time for a club who has been sleeping for too long"
FFS they would have had to have been a big club in the past to then be sleeping. Come on Wenger. Get some silverware for the first time in 6 years.
No seriously, I did a rewind on the V+ and the fecker said "It is a giant of a club that has been sleeping for too long"
I think Blues will win the final.
I'll give you any odds.
I think Blues will win the final.Me too. They have will batter Arses ballerinas and stop them from playing their passing game.
I think Blues will win the final.
But will they stay up to defend their usual cup finals against us next season?
I think Blues will win the final.
Put a great big bet on it then. The odds will be favourable.
Hoof ball got them there. In all fairness though they deserved it on the night. West ham are awful, truly awful.They were disgraceful to watch at times only Cole seemed to have a clue.
I can see three positives from this.
1. West Ham proved their awfulness. They're clearly going to occupy one of the relegation places. Yet more reason for us to stop worrying about it.
2. Blues are fucking awful, Arsenal are very good. They've no chance whatsoever of winning, none at all. Imagine if Ipswich had got through? There would be a real worry there, but as it is, they've zero chance.
3. Blues are now going to be distracted by the build up to the final. That distraction plus the downer of getting made to look like absolute mugs at Wembley will see their season disintegrate, and culminate in their relegation.
I can see three positives from this.
1. West Ham proved their awfulness. They're clearly going to occupy one of the relegation places. Yet more reason for us to stop worrying about it.
2. Blues are fucking awful, Arsenal are very good. They've no chance whatsoever of winning, none at all. Imagine if Ipswich had got through? There would be a real worry there, but as it is, they've zero chance.
3. Blues are now going to be distracted by the build up to the final. That distraction plus the downer of getting made to look like absolute mugs at Wembley will see their season disintegrate, and culminate in their relegation.
Did anybody mention that Westham are shit?
Westham are bloody shit!Did anybody mention that Westham are shit?
No, I don't think so.
Hoof ball got them there. In all fairness though they deserved it on the night. West ham are awful, truly awful.They were disgraceful to watch at times only Cole seemed to have a clue.
4. The embarrassment of them strugglingbto sell their tickets.You watch Chris thousands will come out the woodwork even though there average premiership attendance has to be around 17,000
4. The embarrassment of them strugglingbto sell their tickets.
Hoof ball got them there. In all fairness though they deserved it on the night. West ham are awful, truly awful.They were disgraceful to watch at times only Cole seemed to have a clue.
I didn't think that. In the second half I wondered how Carew had made it on the pitch. All he did was fall over and complain he had been fouled.
4. The embarrassment of them strugglingbto sell their tickets.
They will sell them. They will come out of the woodwork. We only got 29,000 tickets last year so they should sell them. I think they will be buoyed by this now and will get good attendances until the final because of people wanting tickets for Wembley. This in turn could prove to give them an upturn in results.
I'm only saying what I think could happen, I hope I am wrong though. >:(
4. The embarrassment of them strugglingbto sell their tickets.
They will sell them. They will come out of the woodwork. We only got 29,000 tickets last year so they should sell them. I think they will be buoyed by this now and will get good attendances until the final because of people wanting tickets for Wembley. This in turn could prove to give them an upturn in results.
I'm only saying what I think could happen, I hope I am wrong though. >:(
Poppycock, HEITS.
Their support is so embarassingly shit, their qualification for tickets criteria will probably include Villa fans who fancy going down to point and laugh.
4. The embarrassment of them strugglingbto sell their tickets.
They will sell them. They will come out of the woodwork. We only got 29,000 tickets last year so they should sell them. I think they will be buoyed by this now and will get good attendances until the final because of people wanting tickets for Wembley. This in turn could prove to give them an upturn in results.
I'm only saying what I think could happen, I hope I am wrong though. >:(
Poppycock, HEITS.
Their support is so embarassingly shit, their qualification for tickets criteria will probably include Villa fans who fancy going down to point and laugh.
Steals.
Didn't they take 35k to Wembley for the Leyland Daf and Auto Windscreens finals
QuoteDidn't they take 35k to Wembley for the Leyland Daf and Auto Windscreens finals
I heard it was 10,000,000.
QuoteDidn't they take 35k to Wembley for the Leyland Daf and Auto Windscreens finals
I heard it was 10,000,000.
????
QuoteDidn't they take 35k to Wembley for the Leyland Daf and Auto Windscreens finals
I heard it was 10,000,000.
????
I heard that so many noses were wanting to travel to Wembley, they had the whole kaboodle, twin towers and all, sailed up the Grand Union canal and deposited at Bordesley for the day.
QuoteDidn't they take 35k to Wembley for the Leyland Daf and Auto Windscreens finals
I heard it was 10,000,000.
????
I heard that so many noses were wanting to travel to Wembley, they had the whole kaboodle, twin towers and all, sailed up the Grand Union canal and deposited at Bordesley for the day.
I'm willing to bet that they will sell their allocation. They have shit support and their fans are arseholes but they will come out of the woodwork for this.
QuoteDidn't they take 35k to Wembley for the Leyland Daf and Auto Windscreens finals
I heard it was 10,000,000.
????
I heard that so many noses were wanting to travel to Wembley, they had the whole kaboodle, twin towers and all, sailed up the Grand Union canal and deposited at Bordesley for the day.
I'm willing to bet that they will sell their allocation. They have shit support and their fans are arseholes but they will come out of the woodwork for this.
I bet you if I fancied going, I could get a ticket, easy.
QuoteDidn't they take 35k to Wembley for the Leyland Daf and Auto Windscreens finals
I heard it was 10,000,000.
????
I heard that so many noses were wanting to travel to Wembley, they had the whole kaboodle, twin towers and all, sailed up the Grand Union canal and deposited at Bordesley for the day.
I'm willing to bet that they will sell their allocation. They have shit support and their fans are arseholes but they will come out of the woodwork for this.
I bet you if I fancied going, I could get a ticket, easy.
Go on then I dare you. ;)
Provided they don't win the bloody thing, I actually think there is more comedy value in them having got to the final than being knocked out in the semi final.
You know that they'll balls-up their ticket allocation; find the most crass ways imaginable to rip-off their fans; realise that they still have a contractual obligation with the Kumar brothers to buy their Wembley suits from Mark One; and a myriad of other ways to embarrass the city whose name they purloined. And that's before they step on to the Wembley pitch...
Enjoy it Blose. Come on guys, be gracious.
Maybe they'll give us a final to remember. Like when Francis was crying with snot coming out of his nose.
Seriously, Arsenal are under pressure to win something and Blose are fucking rubbish. I wouldn't even waste money betting on them, whatever the odds. They probably wont even touch the ball more than 20 times and 10 of those will be kick offs..
Craig Gardner seems to be developing into a decent midfield player who weighs in with his fair share of goals. Seemed a reasonable deal at the time but not when you consider what a waste Sidwell has been. Let's hope his brother ends up outshining him.Late post is late... but
I thought Gardner was a decent midifled player who weighed in with his share of goals when he was with us, and I wasn't the only one. But our then manager couldn't or wouldn't see it.
i much prefer Delph (when he is fit!) in our team to Gardner
i much prefer Delph (when he is fit!) in our team to Gardner
Delph is unproven at this level but with plenty of potential. I just think Gardener is developing as a player and is now central to their midfield which is not what I expected when he left. He is a real threat around the penalty area. Good luck to him as he never let us down on the odd occasion O'Neill gave him an opportunity.
i much prefer Delph (when he is fit!) in our team to Gardner
Delph is unproven at this level but with plenty of potential. I just think Gardener is developing as a player and is now central to their midfield which is not what I expected when he left. He is a real threat around the penalty area. Good luck to him as he never let us down on the odd occasion O'Neill gave him an opportunity.
He had 70 odd opportunities and he knew he'd be a reserve in our squad. Fair play to him for wanting to go to a small club and play all the time.
I fucking hate Crawley.Dont start me on about their manager, tho that could be of both clubs!!
And Stevenage.
Jesus, when are they going to show the Villa on ITV?
I dont think this is too bad a programme, I was expecting worse.
They appear to be talking a lot of sense. Coleman spot on about Crawley.
1-1 Well deservedVery well deserved, Huddersfield are all over Arsenal
Yawn. Come on Wolves.
Wolves 0 Stoke 1...........Hoof
One-nil County.
Sexy times.
God that "Keith, Ian and Andy" advert is cringeworthy.
God that "Keith, Ian and Andy" advert is cringeworthy.
I wouldn't fancy Walker playing against Bale's pace in a one-off knockout game.
I can't remember the last time I saw a performance as bad as this. Spurs have been absolutely pathetic!
Good point Chris. It shows that the top sides are all capable of shockingly off days too.
Spurs are a shambles, defending like us at Man CityA game too far for them?
They are not having the sparkling season that the media seem to peddle that they are, are they?
How many SSN reporters are already camped outside Redknobs house, training ground, club entrance, shitter, bookie etc... in anticipation of the transfer king swin... signing a top name tomorrow. Bet the words Any Carroll and Spurs are used on average every 4 minutes tomorrow. What time does it close tomorrow?
No its 11.00pm GMT unless your fax is brokenThey are not having the sparkling season that the media seem to peddle that they are, are they?
How many SSN reporters are already camped outside Redknobs house, training ground, club entrance, shitter, bookie etc... in anticipation of the transfer king swin... signing a top name tomorrow. Bet the words Any Carroll and Spurs are used on average every 4 minutes tomorrow. What time does it close tomorrow?
isn't it 5pm GMT?
4 - 0 Dembele.........good finish
Hilarious 606 tonight. As well as that twat Green cutting off anyone who slagged off the bindippers for daring to think they are some sort of deity of a club that exist on a level none of us understands and how dare Ladyboy want to leave them to actually win something in the next 20 years, we had Spurzzz fans ringing in like spoilt kids just because, for once, someone has dared to give them a tonking. One bloke ranted and raved about their defence, and then admitted he had never ever seen them live and only ever listened to their matches on the radio. Green then goes and cuts off the one decent punter, an Everton fan, who rings in to make some very valid points about the state of football today. An absolute joke of a programme, guy should be sacked, he is a major embarrassment...
Spurs aren't looking good for fourth place. As soon as they go out of the Big Cup, that is it for them
Spurs aren't looking good for fourth place. As soon as they go out of the Big Cup, that is it for them
I wonder if Darren Lewis of The Mirror is still convinced they can win the title. He was after they beat us.
All talk and no trousers.
Did I mention that I would like Crawley Town to be absolutely destroyed at Old Trafford? Preferably by a ManUre XI comprising the tea lady, the tea lady's cousin Peggy, and Luke Chadwick
Dave Cooper is the go-to man on this. Basically they have spent more on players than most league clubs and consider themselves better than they are. They were cocky and disrespectful at Torquay, where they bullied and belittled everyone from the ground staff upwards. They want to give it the big 'un but they want to be the wide eyed scrappy underdogs too. Fuck them.
Crawley's manager is the bloke who cheated Boston into the league by fiddling their taxes. Allegedly.
Dave Cooper is the go-to man on this. Basically they have spent more on players than most league clubs and consider themselves better than they are. They were cocky and disrespectful at Torquay, where they bullied and belittled everyone from the ground staff upwards. They want to give it the big 'un but they want to be the wide eyed scrappy underdogs too. Fuck them.
With any other non league club, a cup tie against Man Utd at Old Trafford can keep them going for a few years. Just a shame that it's Crawley there.
Their owner, Bruce Winfield, has only ever said that it is "friends and acquantainces" who have become passive shareholders. There is believed to be Arab involvement somewhere I think. All very strange.Guardian podcast said that there are three financiers from Hong Kong who keep putting in lump sums of cash every now and again.
How do they spend so much money on player's when they're in the non-league?
Floodlights for the others I thought. The Chinese bookies strike again.
On a side note. Everton's first goal was offside but given. Moyes reckons Fabregas's reaction and comments to the ref in the tunnel should have been enough for sending off but the ref took no action. Wenger surprisingly never heard it.
I would really enjoy seeing someone do a Muscat-style takedown on Cesc Fabregas. The guy is as talented as they come but his outburst against Ipswich's tactics (what did he expect?), the waving of imaginary cards against Huddersfield and his whining today are marking him down as a hate figure.
Arsenal fans put it down to envy. I'd put it down to him having no grace whatsoever. I wish he'd fuck off to Spain.
I would really enjoy seeing someone do a Muscat-style takedown on Cesc Fabregas. The guy is as talented as they come but his outburst against Ipswich's tactics (what did he expect?), the waving of imaginary cards against Huddersfield and his whining today are marking him down as a hate figure.
Arsenal fans put it down to envy. I'd put it down to him having no grace whatsoever. I wish he'd fuck off to Spain.
I work with an Arsenal "fan" (when he's not supporting Barnet), the way he witters on you'd think they were the most persecuted side on god's earth. Even when they're are up against lower league sides, but it all stems from the manager.
No class, no grace and the sporting principles of a five year old playing pass the parcel.
No class, no grace and the sporting principles of a five year old playing pass the parcel.
Has Moyes walked out on Everton?
Thats how to take a free kick £iteh 2-1 up
Blackpool losing 2-0 to West Ham. ha Ha
Could be a slippery slope to relegation for Holloway now.
Blackpool losing 2-0 to West Ham. ha HaQuite amazing how one man can change the outlook of a football team. I normally want the promoted teams to do well, I wanted Blackpool to do well, I was glad they were doing well.
Could be a slippery slope to relegation for Holloway now.
Let's hope so. I used to like him but he's now completely doing my head in.
Come on stoke.36,000 like this
Bolton 1-0
I can see Blackpool getting dragged in also, I'd be happy with that, Blues, Wolves Blackpool
Not the best set of results for us. Makes the weekend an important match.
I can see Blackpool getting dragged in also, I'd be happy with that, Blues, Wolves Blackpool
Yes, i'd be happy with that or Bloes, Newcastle and Blackpool!
Bolton 1-0
That's what we want to see
I think results, apart from Bolton, were actually ok for us tonight - we can get as high as 8th I reckon, which will be a decent effort all things considered. There is not a chance of catching Liverpool now - they have good momentum and will end up in 6th. Sunderland might run out of steam.
How the fuck has Suarez been credited with that goal?It's going in should the defender do nothing. That's the only relevant factor.
How the fuck has Suarez been credited with that goal?
And not because it was er...actually Suarez's goal?How the fuck has Suarez been credited with that goal?
Probably because the media fall over themselves to love the red scouse and king kenny!
Really?And not because it was er...actually Suarez's goal?How the fuck has Suarez been credited with that goal?
Probably because the media fall over themselves to love the red scouse and king kenny!
Yes. As per my previous post.Really?And not because it was er...actually Suarez's goal?How the fuck has Suarez been credited with that goal?
Probably because the media fall over themselves to love the red scouse and king kenny!
I'd think the fact that Wilkinson put it in 2 yards in front of the line would've meant it was an own goalYes. As per my previous post.Really?And not because it was er...actually Suarez's goal?How the fuck has Suarez been credited with that goal?
Probably because the media fall over themselves to love the red scouse and king kenny!
If it's going in should the defender not be there then it's the striker's goal.
If the defender intervenes to turn a shot that's NOT going in into a goal then it's an own-goal. So yes, of course it's Suarez's goal.
The only important factor is "if Wilkinson were not on the pitch at that time, would it have been a goal?".I'd think the fact that Wilkinson put it in 2 yards in front of the line would've meant it was an own goalYes. As per my previous post.Really?And not because it was er...actually Suarez's goal?How the fuck has Suarez been credited with that goal?
Probably because the media fall over themselves to love the red scouse and king kenny!
If it's going in should the defender not be there then it's the striker's goal.
If the defender intervenes to turn a shot that's NOT going in into a goal then it's an own-goal. So yes, of course it's Suarez's goal.
If it's going in should the defender not be there then it's the striker's goal.
If the defender intervenes to turn a shot that's NOT going in into a goal then it's an own-goal. So yes, of course it's Suarez's goal.
Just seen the Blose penalty decision on MOTD. Looked like obstruction (or "impeding the progression of an opponent as it's now called apparently) to me, which I'm pretty sure is an indirect free-kick and I'm pretty sure referees are still allowed to give indirect free-kicks in the box.
Any of our resident referees care to share their thoughts as to why you never see indirect free-kicks given in the box?
Routledge scores a late winner. Is that 8 points clear now?
What a rubbish goal!
Anyone mention Carew was offside yet?
I still expect Stoke to equalise. They'll bomb everything long and deep into the box towards Carew.Blimey !
Fuck Carew. Good for Villa.
I still expect Stoke to equalise. They'll bomb everything long and deep into the box towards Carew.Blimey !
BBC say it Was Hooooooth?
Unbelievable....
Yes, Jeff.
For someone who is so good at spotting players, Wenger really can't find a decent defender, can he?
Also, Jack Wilshere is fast adding himself to my list of players I hate. Does he ever shut his mouth and just play?
Yes, Jeff.
For someone who is so good at spotting players, Wenger really can't find a decent defender, can he?
Also, Jack Wilshere is fast adding himself to my list of players I hate. Does he ever shut his mouth and just play?
He is just modelling himself after his influential Captain, who in turn has taken after his moaning manager. Wenger will be moaning at the ref for sending off Diaby but not mentioning his player shouldn't have reacted in the first place.
I didn't see the sending off very well. But Barton should have been sent off too.
It's getting worse.
Lets think about it, the only teams Wolves seem to beat are really good teams. Won't surprise me if the Dogheads win, breaking United's unbeaten streak and we'll be back to square 1 very nearly.
Also, Johnny Evans is a shit defender and Wolves fans are very annoying and are starting to grate.
Get a grip you big fanny.
Wouldn't care if Wolves win as long as we'd beaten Fulham today.It's getting worse.
Lets think about it, the only teams Wolves seem to beat are really good teams. Won't surprise me if the Dogheads win, breaking United's unbeaten streak and we'll be back to square 1 very nearly.
Also, Johnny Evans is a shit defender and Wolves fans are very annoying and are starting to grate.
Get a grip you big fanny. Who cares if the Wolves win? They're complete toilet and even with us being up and down, they'll get nowhere near to finishing above us.
How long the dingles got to go?
How long the dingles got to go?
*five* minutes' added time.
Imagine Wolves going down having beaten both Manc teams and Chelsea at home.
Imagine Wolves going down having beaten both Manc teams and Chelsea at home.
And winning at Anfield.
Why couldn't Newton Heath be this bad against us?
Imagine Wolves going down having beaten both Manc teams and Chelsea at home.
And winning at Anfield.
Imagine Wolves going down having beaten both Manc teams and Chelsea at home.
And winning at Anfield.
I was going to add that but thought, fuck, it's not hard to win there these days really is it? Blackpool even managed it.
Obviously it had to be the nadir of our season.
Liverpool
Chelsea
Man C
Man U
Very impressive for a team at the bottom.
Shows they can't be the shit teams, mind.
Well done to Wolves today. That result and the 4-4 at Tyneside keeps the magic of watching football alive.Yes it was a cracking result for both teams. Quite a remarkable day of results.
Well done to Wolves today. That result and the 4-4 at Tyneside keeps the magic of watching football alive.
There have benn some really awful decisions made by officials today. Do these men know the laws of the game?Indeed if I was an Arsenal fan I'd be fuming. Plus Cahill getting booked for the same sort of tackle which Dafoe got a penalty for.
There have benn some really awful decisions made by officials today. Do these men know the laws of the game?Indeed if I was an Arsenal fan I'd be fuming. Plus Cahill getting booked for the same sort of tackle which Dafoe got a penalty for.
There have benn some really awful decisions made by officials today. Do these men know the laws of the game?
There have benn some really awful decisions made by officials today. Do these men know the laws of the game?
I'm surprised that Phil Dowd is still allowed to ref Premiership games. I thought the ref at our game yesterday was piss poor as well.
Phil Dowd was disgraceful yesterday, the second penalty was ridiculous and the first wasn't much better and Barton could easily have broken Diaby's leg. I think our ref was Lee Mason and he had a shocker as well, I really don't know what the answer is to improving them.
Phil Dowd was disgraceful yesterday, the second penalty was ridiculous
They're playing West Ham- what do you expect?
There's another goal in this.
There's another goal in this.
No there isn't.
I'm so gutted O'Neill didn't get his way and bring Keane in. He has been brilliant today, honest.
There's another goal in this.
No there isn't.
Stop disagreeing with me. It makes me cross
This Chelsea vs Liverpool game. I can's honestly see how Sky will bill this one. There just isn't any kind of angle
Who has replaced Teen-Wolf's Dad (copyright ManWithAStick) and anti-Asda Andy today?
It is all about their defenders being much, much better than ours! And their keeper being the best in the league.
Bad results for us this weekend.
Torres off at 65mins...tired from listening to jeering from the fans of "the real club"
Watching Real Madrid play now, much more entertaining than that dross earlier.
Alan Green, wonderful again.
Barely disguised delight at Liverpool's win but still doesn't have the bravery to declare an interest.
It is all about their defenders being much, much better than ours! And their keeper being the best in the league.
Bad results for us this weekend.
It is all about their defenders being much, much better than ours! And their keeper being the best in the league.
Bad results for us this weekend.
I really don't think Agger and Kyrgiakos are any better than what we have.
It is all about their defenders being much, much better than ours! And their keeper being the best in the league.
Bad results for us this weekend.
I really don't think Agger and Kyrgiakos are any better than what we have.
I think Agger is better than we have there is a big difference in the goalkeepers and the stats show we have conceded
15 goals more tha them
It is all about their defenders being much, much better than ours! And their keeper being the best in the league.
Bad results for us this weekend.
I really don't think Agger and Kyrgiakos are any better than what we have.
I think Agger is better than we have there is a big difference in the goalkeepers and the stats show we have conceded
15 goals more tha them
Ask Liverpool fans their opinion of Agger. He's as error prone as any of our lot.
Carragher is on the slide and nowhere near the force he once was, Johnson can't defend, Skrtel is pretty good but injury prone and Kyrgiakos is just shit.
And let's not forget they see Warnock as an upgrade on Aurelio.
You're right about Reina though. Top goalkeeper.
There's not a lot wrong with the rest of their team but their defence really needs an overhaul if they want to get right back up there. They seem to be enjoying the usual new manager bump in form at the moment but it won't last.
Edit. Cuellar for instance would easily get into their team.
It is all about their defenders being much, much better than ours! And their keeper being the best in the league.
Bad results for us this weekend.
I really don't think Agger and Kyrgiakos are any better than what we have.
I think Agger is better than we have there is a big difference in the goalkeepers and the stats show we have conceded
15 goals more tha them
Ask Liverpool fans their opinion of Agger. He's as error prone as any of our lot.
Carragher is on the slide and nowhere near the force he once was, Johnson can't defend, Skrtel is pretty good but injury prone and Kyrgiakos is just shit.
And let's not forget they see Warnock as an upgrade on Aurelio.
You're right about Reina though. Top goalkeeper.
There's not a lot wrong with the rest of their team but their defence really needs an overhaul if they want to get right back up there. They seem to be enjoying the usual new manager bump in form at the moment but it won't last.
Edit. Cuellar for instance would easily get into their team.
Well if their defence needs a overhaul what does ours need if
a) Cuellar cant get into our team
b) We have conceded 15 more goals than them
They obviously didnt think that Warnock as an upgrade on Aurelio as they havnt signed him
It is all about their defenders being much, much better than ours! And their keeper being the best in the league.
Bad results for us this weekend.
I really don't think Agger and Kyrgiakos are any better than what we have.
I think Agger is better than we have there is a big difference in the goalkeepers and the stats show we have conceded
15 goals more tha them
Ask Liverpool fans their opinion of Agger. He's as error prone as any of our lot.
Carragher is on the slide and nowhere near the force he once was, Johnson can't defend, Skrtel is pretty good but injury prone and Kyrgiakos is just shit.
And let's not forget they see Warnock as an upgrade on Aurelio.
You're right about Reina though. Top goalkeeper.
There's not a lot wrong with the rest of their team but their defence really needs an overhaul if they want to get right back up there. They seem to be enjoying the usual new manager bump in form at the moment but it won't last.
Edit. Cuellar for instance would easily get into their team.
Well if their defence needs a overhaul what does ours need if
a) Cuellar cant get into our team
b) We have conceded 15 more goals than them
They obviously didnt think that Warnock as an upgrade on Aurelio as they havnt signed him
They wanted to sign him. They may yet do.
Cuellar is wasted at our club in all honesty. God knows what he needs to do to play in his best position. We have too many playing out of position and have had for some time. That may have something to do with why we're conceding so many.
Walker can play left back can't he? I would be tempted to try him there and switch Cuellar to right back, just till the end of the season when we will buy a new left back.He probably can but then you have got 2 players playing out of their natural positions which in my opinion we shouldnt be doing...I would prefer to give Lichaj a chance at left back and I would put Carlos in the centre of defence with James Collins
Two right-footers though which I think is the problem.Walker can play left back can't he? I would be tempted to try him there and switch Cuellar to right back, just till the end of the season when we will buy a new left back.He probably can but then you have got 2 players playing out of their natural positions which in my opinion we shouldnt be doing...I would prefer to give Lichaj a chance at left back and I would put Carlos in the centre of defence with James Collins
How about Lichaj, Cuellar, Clark and Walker..........3 young players but the 3 youngsters have all got U/21 caps at least ( I think) added with Carlos's experience and Maarten Stekelenburg in goal
How about Lichaj, Cuellar, Clark and Walker..........3 young players but the 3 youngsters have all got U/21 caps at least ( I think) added with Carlos's experience and Maarten Stekelenburg in goal
That back four would do for now but I would want a proper left back in the Summer with Lichaj as back-up to either Walker or a new right-back. I don't expect to see much of Luke Young or Habib Beye at THOWF again. Dunno about Sketelenburg, isn't that a small mining town near Ulm?
Stekelenburg has previous turned down Man Utd to stay at Ajax, so I'd be surprised if we were too high up on his list.How about Lichaj, Cuellar, Clark and Walker..........3 young players but the 3 youngsters have all got U/21 caps at least ( I think) added with Carlos's experience and Maarten Stekelenburg in goal
That back four would do for now but I would want a proper left back in the Summer with Lichaj as back-up to either Walker or a new right-back. I don't expect to see much of Luke Young or Habib Beye at THOWF again. Dunno about Sketelenburg, isn't that a small mining town near Ulm?
I agree we need a new left back in the summer and Maarten Stekelenburg is the Ajax and current Dutch no1 goalkeeper
Stekelenburg has previous turned down Man Utd to stay at Ajax, so I'd be surprised if we were too high up on his list.How about Lichaj, Cuellar, Clark and Walker..........3 young players but the 3 youngsters have all got U/21 caps at least ( I think) added with Carlos's experience and Maarten Stekelenburg in goal
That back four would do for now but I would want a proper left back in the Summer with Lichaj as back-up to either Walker or a new right-back. I don't expect to see much of Luke Young or Habib Beye at THOWF again. Dunno about Sketelenburg, isn't that a small mining town near Ulm?
I agree we need a new left back in the summer and Maarten Stekelenburg is the Ajax and current Dutch no1 goalkeeper
Enyeama from Hapoel Tel Aviv would be my shout. Shouldn't be much competition and looked astonishingly good at the World Cup.
Could easily be a mistake though.
4 clean sheets on the trot now for Liverpool would suggest they are. That or they have a manager who can sort the defence
Dunne at left back is just wrong
Dunne at left back is just wrong
True, and I don't think Clark should play there, at the weekend he offered very little to the attack so hopefully he will replace Dunne before we lose him like we lost Cahill.
Being honest, Stevie G is the best English player i have seen in the last 40 years, and you can play him in about 5/6 roles, and he would still be the best player on the pitch.
Being honest, Stevie G is the best English player i have seen in the last 40 years, and you can play him in about 5/6 roles, and he would still be the best player on the pitch.
Really? Better than Hoddle, Sid, Gascoigne, Rooney, Robson etc? I've always thought he was a bit overrated to tell you the truth. Never really developed into much of a team player, for all his versatility.
Villa 2 - Denmark 1
Why on earth did we sell Chaill ??Cahill wanted to leave
How much did MON give him away for ??
Why on earth did we sell Chaill ??
How much did MON give him away for ??
Bent enhanced his cause, not simply with his poacher’s striker to cancel out Daniel Agger’s headed opener, but with his constant running. Capello clearly sees Andy Carroll as England’s long-term No 9 but Bent showed he is an able deputy.
Read this on the Telegraph site about tonight's matchAnd even if he does see Andy Carroll as England's 'long term number 9' I'm not sure it really matters as he will be England manager for approximately fourteen more months.QuoteBent enhanced his cause, not simply with his poacher’s striker to cancel out Daniel Agger’s headed opener, but with his constant running. Capello clearly sees Andy Carroll as England’s long-term No 9 but Bent showed he is an able deputy.
Capello clearly sees Carroll as the long term num 9?
A player he's called up, what, once? And who has played an entire 20 or so premier league matches?
So the England team has got Cahill, Barry, Downing, Bent, Young & Milner in and around the eleven. I wonder what they've got in common? Only the best football club in history, that's all.
Not a bad game really. I've been really impressed with that Eriksen kid for Denmark in midfield, he looks quality.
Not a bad game really. I've been really impressed with that Eriksen kid for Denmark in midfield, he looks quality.
he does .. who does he play for?
Read this on the Telegraph site about tonight's matchQuoteBent enhanced his cause, not simply with his poacher’s striker to cancel out Daniel Agger’s headed opener, but with his constant running. Capello clearly sees Andy Carroll as England’s long-term No 9 but Bent showed he is an able deputy.
Capello clearly sees Carroll as the long term num 9?
A player he's called up, what, once? And who has played an entire 20 or so premier league matches?
Read this on the Telegraph site about tonight's matchQuoteBent enhanced his cause, not simply with his poacher’s striker to cancel out Daniel Agger’s headed opener, but with his constant running. Capello clearly sees Andy Carroll as England’s long-term No 9 but Bent showed he is an able deputy.
Capello clearly sees Carroll as the long term num 9?
A player he's called up, what, once? And who has played an entire 20 or so premier league matches?
Carroll will be found out at International level
Read this on the Telegraph site about tonight's matchQuoteBent enhanced his cause, not simply with his poacher’s striker to cancel out Daniel Agger’s headed opener, but with his constant running. Capello clearly sees Andy Carroll as England’s long-term No 9 but Bent showed he is an able deputy.
Capello clearly sees Carroll as the long term num 9?
A player he's called up, what, once? And who has played an entire 20 or so premier league matches?
Carroll will be found out at International level
Read this on the Telegraph site about tonight's matchQuoteBent enhanced his cause, not simply with his poachers striker to cancel out Daniel Aggers headed opener, but with his constant running. Capello clearly sees Andy Carroll as Englands long-term No 9 but Bent showed he is an able deputy.
Capello clearly sees Carroll as the long term num 9?
A player he's called up, what, once? And who has played an entire 20 or so premier league matches?
Carroll will be found out at International level
Carroll will be found out at Liverpool.
Liverpool helping us out...
Spurs 2-1 now, God I hate themI'm reserving that for when Milan to unimaginable things to spurs.
Rooney got lucky there!
1 - 0 Bolton.........Cahill
1 - 0 Bolton.........Cahill
Remind me why we let him go ?
1 - 0 Bolton.........Cahill
Remind me why we let him go ?
1 - 0 Bolton.........Cahill
Remind me why we let him go ?
He wanted to leave because MON told him with Knight, Davies, Cuellar and Laursen around he had no future at VP!
He wanted to leave because MON told him with Knight, Davies, Cuellar and Laursen around he had no future at VP!
At that stage he wasn't as good as any of them. He has developed since but, understandably, wasn't willing to wait around on the subs bench till he was ready to replace one of said players.
We might have loaned him maybe, but perhaps Cahill fancied the stability of a long-term move. I don't particularly like O'Neill but this constant banging on on this site about how we should have kept Cahill is somewhat tedious.
I wish we signed Sturridge a few years back, I'm sure I remember us sniffing around. Bloody waisted at Chelsea, cracking player.
Maybe they went there because they thought they were good enough to challenge for a place in a better team?I wish we signed Sturridge a few years back, I'm sure I remember us sniffing around. Bloody waisted at Chelsea, cracking player.
We were in for him but like Sidwell, etc he went there for the money
Maybe they went there because they thought they were good enough to challenge for a place in a better team?I wish we signed Sturridge a few years back, I'm sure I remember us sniffing around. Bloody waisted at Chelsea, cracking player.
We were in for him but like Sidwell, etc he went there for the money
Indeed, but professional footballers aren't known for lacking self-confidence.Maybe they went there because they thought they were good enough to challenge for a place in a better team?I wish we signed Sturridge a few years back, I'm sure I remember us sniffing around. Bloody waisted at Chelsea, cracking player.
We were in for him but like Sidwell, etc he went there for the money
Sturridge went to Chelsea, a better team, without having cemented a place at Man City, though.
He wanted to leave because MON told him with Knight, Davies, Cuellar and Laursen around he had no future at VP!
At that stage he wasn't as good as any of them. He has developed since but, understandably, wasn't willing to wait around on the subs bench till he was ready to replace one of said players.
Torres subbed again.
Is it just me who thinks he won't be a success at Chelsea?
The new Chris Sutton?
Torres subbed again.
Is it just me who thinks he won't be a success at Chelsea?
The new Chris Sutton?
No, Torres movement is excellent, he's getting the service too, only a matter of time before the goals flow
Sidwell put in another good shift, looks like a transformed player, what a bargain Hughes got
Torres subbed again.
Is it just me who thinks he won't be a success at Chelsea?
The new Chris Sutton?
No, Torres movement is excellent, he's getting the service too, only a matter of time before the goals flow
Sidwell put in another good shift, looks like a transformed player, what a bargain Hughes got
I'd agree with your comment on Sidwell. Quite possibly Fulham's man of the match.
The last two televised games have showed clearly who is Chelsea's best centre forward. Daniel Sturridge.
The last two televised games have showed clearly who is Chelsea's best centre forward. Daniel Sturridge.
I said that today, pace good finisher, I don't know why they needed to waste £50m
Clyde 1 England 0!
Sunderland are managed by one and they get 40,000 most home games.
Ray Wilkins' comentary has been awful, truly awful.
You can see the media wankfest materialising in front of your eyes...I can't because I'm not watching it thankfully.
Cracking game that, just a shame Gattuso's missing the second leg!I some how think that he may be looking at 5+ match ban after what he did
Cracking game that, just a shame Gattuso's missing the second leg!I some how think that he may be looking at 5+ match ban after what he did
Cracking game that, just a shame Gattuso's missing the second leg!
Ray Wilkins' comentary has been awful, truly awful.
It really bad, he keeps saying things that a proved wrong 2 seconds later on the replay's
Cracking game that, just a shame Gattuso's missing the second leg!
I thought it was depressing. Very ordinary fare on the pitch, hugely over-hyped and paid players and disgusting behaviour on and off the pitch
Summed up all that is wrong with football to me
Barcelona could sleepwalk to the final such is the mediocrity of every other team across Europe
Is it just me, or is assou ekkotto a quality full back?
Spurs fans are always saying they need to replace him.
Joe Jordan must have mellowed with age! He's have eaten Gattuso for breakfast in his playing days. One of the bravest centre forwards that I've seen.
Great result for Spuds
Joe Jordan must have mellowed with age! He's have eaten Gattuso for breakfast in his playing days. One of the bravest centre forwards that I've seen.
Sky pundit Graeme Souness, who after congratulating Spurs on their win, describes Gattuso as "a disgrace" who's not even a particularly good footballer and well past his sell-by date.
"I would love it if Gennaro Gattuso was locked in a room for 10 minutes with Joe Jordan," he says to Jeff Stelling, the implication abundantly clear that only one man would walk out when the door was unlocked and he wouldn't be an Italian.
Cracking game that, just a shame Gattuso's missing the second leg!
I thought it was depressing. Very ordinary fare on the pitch, hugely over-hyped and paid players and disgusting behaviour on and off the pitch
Summed up all that is wrong with football to me
Barcelona could sleepwalk to the final such is the mediocrity of every other team across Europe
Didn't Souness sign him for Rangers?
Didn't Souness sign him for Rangers?
This made me laugh...QuoteSky pundit Graeme Souness, who after congratulating Spurs on their win, describes Gattuso as "a disgrace" who's not even a particularly good footballer and well past his sell-by date.
"I would love it if Gennaro Gattuso was locked in a room for 10 minutes with Joe Jordan," he says to Jeff Stelling, the implication abundantly clear that only one man would walk out when the door was unlocked and he wouldn't be an Italian.
Didn't Souness sign him for Rangers?
You're out by around a decade I think!
Didn't Joe Jordan play for AC Milan at one point? I'm sure there are a few Italians tonight chuckling away at Gattuso. Jordan was nails. Never in much trouble as nobody was mad enough to fight him.Legend at the San Siro is Jaws.
Spurs were excellent tonight.
That wasn't fun admitting.
Gattusso head butted shoved and fouled all match and got booked for a good tackle!
Wilkins was way off, I only saw the second half in full and other than a breakaway goal it was all Milan and Wilkins was saying it was Spurs all over them. Ridiculous.
Perhaps some of us are more interested in what's best for Aston Villa rather than petty parochialism? It is clearly not in our interests for a rival club to do well in Europe, getting more exposure and money in the process. It isn't that difficult to get your head around.
Waking up to another night of glory for Tottingham makes me wonder if this could be the worst year for football for a long long time. Imagine, Blues win the cup, Spurs win the Champions League and we get relegated. *shudder*
It pains me to admit as well because I thought they were kind of getting by in the CL on beginner's luck and exuberance but it seems that it's going to take an excellent side to stop them at least reaching the final.
it was an awful game where spuds only plan was to hoof the ball up to crouch for knock downs against a dreadful milan performance....
got a result, but awful game..
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
what's petty and small minded about not liking Spurs? Nothing wrong with a bit of pointless malevolence.
The ref was crap, should have been a penalty in the first minute and Flamini should have been sent-off twice.
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Waking up to another night of glory for Tottingham makes me wonder if this could be the worst year for football for a long long time. Imagine, Blues win the cup, Spurs win the Champions League and we get relegated. *shudder*
A good job those things are about as likely to happen as Stevie Wonder winning Le Mans.
Bumped into a few Barca fans at Paddington tonight, all wanting directions to the tube & the Emirates, as if I could give a shit!
As you do I wished them luck & they asked who I support. Instantly they wanted to talk, 1982, Rotterdam, Super Cup, Tony Morley, Gary Shaw, O'Neill, Houllier, Young, Gabby, Milner, 2 of the group were about my age & were at VP for the Super Cup 2nd leg, both had fond memories of a great away trip.
A more knowledgable bunch of foreign johnnies you could not wish to meet. Forza Barca.
Roma 1-3 Shakhtar
On the train home. What sky 4 arseholes are playing their foreign equivalents today?
I don't believe the cliche "football as it should be played", there is nothing in the rules about it passing it 50 times before you score but I'm enjoying this.
But that's more to do with the crybabys chasing shadows and the prospect of Wenger having to concede that sometimes when his team loose it's not down to cheating refs and brutal opposition players.
Adrian fucking Chiles. Great.
That messi is a bit good isn't he!
That messi is a bit good isn't he!
Downing is better............
That messi is a bit good isn't he!
That messi is a bit good isn't he!
Downing is better............
It looks like Messi glues the ball to his foot, Downing isn't far behind.
Good goal from vanPersie...as good as Rooney's
Good goal from vanPersie...as good as Rooney's
Are you sure?
Good goal from vanPersie...as good as Rooney's
Are you sure?
Yes great strike under pressure at great pace...and crucial match stage. All elements that make it great.
Keeper never had a chance. It was an absolute bullet. Brilliant goal.
Err.....??? Not even in he same league.Yes you are right this one was in the ..... wait for it
There were a lot of people on here saying Wilshere's overhyped. I hope those people realise quite how wrong they were.
Barca deserve at least a draw, they should have been out of sight by half time.Sounds familiar
Depressing to think how we are a million miles away from that - I suspect we could barely cope with two games a week, never mind playing to that sort of standard
Arsenal deserve the plaudits but anyone who watched that game could see how advanced Barca are compared to Arsenal. At times they were unplayable. They seem to suffer from the superiority complex their football dictates, however.
I think Makoun could play for either of those teams and not look totally out of place.
However, he doesn't quite have the players around him at the Villa (unfortunately!).
Hope Makoun doesn't become another JPA - an excellent player, but we bring him down to our level.
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Then, you're frankly mad.
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Then, you're frankly mad.
Then you're a small minded wanker if we're going to resort to petty insults
No need for that.
Do you get the feeling Valdes doesn't normally have to do too much goalkeeping?
Depressing to think how we are a million miles away from that - I suspect we could barely cope with two games a week, never mind playing to that sort of standard
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Then, you're frankly mad.
Then you're a small minded wanker if we're going to resort to petty insults
'Small-minded wanker' from the bloke that wants a team to lose... to fucking Spurs!!! ... just because they are foreign.
Out of interest, did you cheer for Blues during their Anglo-Italian glory days?
He obviously thought he had it covered but then nobody understandably expected the ball to be hit with such power and from such a tight angle. I think he expected Van Persie to cross the ball.Keeper never had a chance. It was an absolute bullet. Brilliant goal.
If he hadn't been a yard from his post he'd have saved it. Good goal but it was mistake from the keeper.
The second mind you was a peach.
No need for that.
OOh sorry, I must have missed your stern rebuke for the original comment
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Then, you're frankly mad.
Then you're a small minded wanker if we're going to resort to petty insults
'Small-minded wanker' from the bloke that wants a team to lose... to fucking Spurs!!! ... just because they are foreign.
Out of interest, did you cheer for Blues during their Anglo-Italian glory days?
What's so wrong with fucking spurs?! Are they any more arrogant than us when we're winning? You prefer the Italian equivalent of Man utd do you? Seems to be fashionable to really hate spurs these days for some reason. Petty, small mindedness as I said. By the way If you dont like getting insults back then dont give them out in the first place
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Then, you're frankly mad.
Then you're a small minded wanker if we're going to resort to petty insults
'Small-minded wanker' from the bloke that wants a team to lose... to fucking Spurs!!! ... just because they are foreign.
Out of interest, did you cheer for Blues during their Anglo-Italian glory days?
What's so wrong with fucking spurs?! Are they any more arrogant than us when we're winning? You prefer the Italian equivalent of Man utd do you? Seems to be fashionable to really hate spurs these days for some reason. Petty, small mindedness as I said. By the way If you dont like getting insults back then dont give them out in the first place
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Then, you're frankly mad.
Then you're a small minded wanker if we're going to resort to petty insults
'Small-minded wanker' from the bloke that wants a team to lose... to fucking Spurs!!! ... just because they are foreign.
Out of interest, did you cheer for Blues during their Anglo-Italian glory days?
What's so wrong with fucking spurs?! Are they any more arrogant than us when we're winning? You prefer the Italian equivalent of Man utd do you? Seems to be fashionable to really hate spurs these days for some reason. Petty, small mindedness as I said. By the way If you dont like getting insults back then dont give them out in the first place
Spurs and Arsenal our Rivals? if only that was true
Spurs and Arsenal our Rivals? if only that was true
At some point Chelsea or Spurs or Arse will win the CL, I dont support english Clubs in Europe, I only support The Villa, i suppose that it is difficult coming to terms with the notion that we were so close to being in the position that Arse and now Spurs are.Spurs and Arsenal our Rivals? if only that was true
They're in the same league as us, they play in the same competitions.
Either of them winning the CL would be bad for us because:
1. The increased income in doing so would execerbate the financial gaps between us and them.
2. They'd be a new member of a very exclusive club, of which we are a member.
I can't understand why anyone would look last the two above points and go for some spurious "they're an English club!!!" argument. Especially in the case of Arsenal, the least English of all English clubs.
At some point Chelsea or Spurs or Arse will win the CL, I dont support english Clubs in Europe, I only support The Villa, i suppose that it is difficult coming to terms with the notion that we were so close to being in the position that Arse and now Spurs are.Spurs and Arsenal our Rivals? if only that was true
They're in the same league as us, they play in the same competitions.
Either of them winning the CL would be bad for us because:
1. The increased income in doing so would execerbate the financial gaps between us and them.
2. They'd be a new member of a very exclusive club, of which we are a member.
I can't understand why anyone would look last the two above points and go for some spurious "they're an English club!!!" argument. Especially in the case of Arsenal, the least English of all English clubs.
If we had qualifed we would have beaten Barcelona in the Group Stage and then got knocked out on goal difference after losing at home to Spartak Luxembourg.
If we had qualifed we would have beaten Barcelona in the Group Stage and then got knocked out on goal difference after losing at home to Spartak Luxembourg.
We'd have exited in the first round play off qualifier against FC Bicycle Clip of Romania
Based on that performance tonight, does anybody else think Arsenal might have too much for the Rags at Wembley?
Not guilty, and there you have the nub of it, we didnt progress despite all the cash that MON had to burn, but we were at a point with some astute transfers and a change of approach to achieve CL football, and we both know that he fell short, now we are worried about Wigan Wolves WBA Blackpool BloseAt some point Chelsea or Spurs or Arse will win the CL, I dont support english Clubs in Europe, I only support The Villa, i suppose that it is difficult coming to terms with the notion that we were so close to being in the position that Arse and now Spurs are.Spurs and Arsenal our Rivals? if only that was true
They're in the same league as us, they play in the same competitions.
Either of them winning the CL would be bad for us because:
1. The increased income in doing so would execerbate the financial gaps between us and them.
2. They'd be a new member of a very exclusive club, of which we are a member.
I can't understand why anyone would look last the two above points and go for some spurious "they're an English club!!!" argument. Especially in the case of Arsenal, the least English of all English clubs.
We were nowhere near that position - knockout stages of the CL, almost in the quarter finals?
Had MON got us there, it would have been short lived and embarassing to watch us toil around amongst teams who know how to pass the ball around.
Who remembers the considerable number of people on here who were telling us all how Arsenal were on the point of implosion two years ago, incidentally?
Based on that performance tonight, does anybody else think Arsenal might have too much for the Rags at Wembley?
Based on that performance tonight, does anybody else think Arsenal might have too much for the Rags at Wembley?
Not so sure, The CC Final is the Sunday before the Nou Camp return game. I can see Wenger resting a few for the small heath game and Arsenal players having one eye on the 2nd leg. The timing plays into the hands of the rags
Fair play to Spuds, I cant get my head around some on here wanting them to lose to an Italian club
Then, you're frankly mad.
Then you're a small minded wanker if we're going to resort to petty insults
'Small-minded wanker' from the bloke that wants a team to lose... to fucking Spurs!!! ... just because they are foreign.
Out of interest, did you cheer for Blues during their Anglo-Italian glory days?
What's so wrong with fucking spurs?! Are they any more arrogant than us when we're winning? You prefer the Italian equivalent of Man utd do you? Seems to be fashionable to really hate spurs these days for some reason. Petty, small mindedness as I said. By the way If you dont like getting insults back then dont give them out in the first place
You didn't insult me, silly sausage. Read the quotes again, slowly.
Juventus are the Italian version of Man U, not AC Milan.
I have always disliked Spurs, not just 'these days'. The reason for wanting them to lose though wasn't hatred it was because it would obviously be bad for Villa, a point you have failed to respond to.
Small mindedness is hating somebody just because their foreign. I can 'get my head around' why you don't want an Italian team to win... I would assume it is because you are xenophobic. The fact that you are unable to get your head around why anybody wouldn't agree with you suggest limited mental capacity... 'small-minded' indeed.
For the record I don't particularly like AC Milan as they are crooked and their Chairman is a shit politician and a vile human being.
However, I wanted Spurs to lose to them. Just the same as I wanted Arsenal to lose tonight. They are our rivals. AC Milan and Barcelona are not. Do you think that if Pepsi announce record profits the Board of Directors of Coca-Cola will be saying "woo-hoo! An American company is doing well, great news!"?
Is it ? Sorry, thought I heard different last nightBased on that performance tonight, does anybody else think Arsenal might have too much for the Rags at Wembley?
Not so sure, The CC Final is the Sunday before the Nou Camp return game. I can see Wenger resting a few for the small heath game and Arsenal players having one eye on the 2nd leg. The timing plays into the hands of the rags
The CC final is next Sunday 27/02/2011 and the second leg of Barca v Arsenal is 08/03/2011
Let's all hate spuds because they're doing better than us at the moment and it's not fair' bit and just because it's trendy
Based on that performance tonight, does anybody else think Arsenal might have too much for the Rags at Wembley?
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Isn't the final just before the Barca game. Hope arse don't rest to many. Mind , the reserves should be good enough , hopefookingfully
First half Barcelona were superb. Things that stood out for me were:
They can all control the ball and remain composed in possession under pressure, and will shield it and hold on to it if there isn't an outlet, which is rare because their movement off the ball is fantastic:
The timing of their runs to beat the offside, something players like Bent could work on a bit more.
And when they lose the ball they are brilliant at closing down quickly to force an error.
Barcelona were fantastic in posession but I felt they got a little complacent in the last quarter of the game. The chances they missed were pretty careless.
Credit to Arsenal though, on the relatively few occasions they did have the ball, they tried to play their football and never gave up.
They also showed you can get at their back four which is certainly not the strongest part of their side.
I thought Barcelona were a bit too over confident and nonchalant.Barcelona were fantastic in posession but I felt they got a little complacent in the last quarter of the game. The chances they missed were pretty careless.
Credit to Arsenal though, on the relatively few occasions they did have the ball, they tried to play their football and never gave up.
They also showed you can get at their back four which is certainly not the strongest part of their side.
They missed Puyol, they looked vulnerable every tiem Arsenal attacked them. That said, on chances created they should have won about 7-3.
The main attribute about Barca is the way they harrass you if they lose the ball. Immediately there are 3, 4 or more players surrounding the player in possession so that they win the ball back almost immediately.
I think Makoun could play for either of those teams and not look totally out of place.
The main attribute about Barca is the way they harrass you if they lose the ball. Immediately there are 3, 4 or more players surrounding the player in possession so that they win the ball back almost immediately.
I read somewhere that Guardiola works a lot on this in training as, statistically it is in the first few seconds of possession that teams are most vunerable to giving you the ball back. Even the big stars are made to do some sort of forfeit if they don't get the ball back within five seconds of giving it away.
Its the sort of tippy tappy football GH is trying to bring to B6, sadly, at present we dont have the players to execute it, particularly the penetrative element of this approach
Fair play to Arsenal, they stuck at it and eventually rattled them into looking ordinary and open at the back
Its the sort of tippy tappy football GH is trying to bring to B6, sadly, at present we dont have the players to execute it, particularly the penetrative element of this approach
Fair play to Arsenal, they stuck at it and eventually rattled them into looking ordinary and open at the back
"tippy tappy football" - ie actually playing the game as it should be played, by passing the ball, you mean?
"tippy tappy" is the sort of phrase you'd except to hear Stoke City fans using to criticise fans of other clubs who think teams who rely on long balls and long throws aren't much fun to watch.
Its the sort of tippy tappy football GH is trying to bring to B6, sadly, at present we dont have the players to execute it, particularly the penetrative element of this approach
Fair play to Arsenal, they stuck at it and eventually rattled them into looking ordinary and open at the back
"tippy tappy football" - ie actually playing the game as it should be played, by passing the ball, you mean?
"tippy tappy" is the sort of phrase you'd except to hear Stoke City fans using to criticise fans of other clubs who think teams who rely on long balls and long throws aren't much fun to watch.
Thank fuck Paulie.
I'm fed up of people using "tippy-tappy" as some sort of clichéd insult. Okay so the results aren't coming just yet, but they will, and we'll be a damn sight better to watch as well.
Spurs and Arsenal our Rivals? if only that was true
The Liverpool game was utter shite.
It really was terribleThe Liverpool game was utter shite.
I'm glad I didn't watch it as I was tempted to!
It really was terribleThe Liverpool game was utter shite.
I'm glad I didn't watch it as I was tempted to!
Its the sort of tippy tappy football GH is trying to bring to B6, sadly, at present we dont have the players to execute it, particularly the penetrative element of this approach
Fair play to Arsenal, they stuck at it and eventually rattled them into looking ordinary and open at the back
"tippy tappy football" - ie actually playing the game as it should be played, by passing the ball, you mean?
"tippy tappy" is the sort of phrase you'd except to hear Stoke City fans using to criticise fans of other clubs who think teams who rely on long balls and long throws aren't much fun to watch.
Thank fuck Paulie.
I'm fed up of people using "tippy-tappy" as some sort of clichéd insult. Okay so the results aren't coming just yet, but they will, and we'll be a damn sight better to watch as well.
Exactly my view as well.
The Liverpool game was utter shite.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
And why Martin O'Neill is still unemployed.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
Bollocks? Fuck off.
The reason people watch Arsenal and Barcelona over Wigan and Bolton is because Arsenal and Barcelona know how to win games and trophies.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
And why Martin O'Neill is still unemployed.
Thank God. The last thing we need is another manager in the PL that is better at winning football matches than Gerard.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
And why Martin O'Neill is still unemployed.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
Bollocks? Fuck off.
The reason people watch Arsenal and Barcelona over Wigan and Bolton is because Arsenal and Barcelona know how to win games and trophies.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
Arsenal have hardly been claiming the silverware in the last few years.
Referring to your example, the important thing you seem to miss is that, although they had Bould, Adams and Keown, they ALSO had Bergkamp and Overmars.
My Arsenal ST holding mate is happy as a pig in shit today, because his team beat Barcelona last night AND played good football whilst doing so. To listen to you, you'd think the two things were mutually exclusive.
And as for Aston Villa not being an aesthetically pleasing troupe, one might suggest that given our consistent failure to fill our ground, a bit more entertainment might go a long way.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
As you're so fond of facts, here's a few:
Arsenal average attendances:
1988-89 - 35,595
1990-91 - 36,864
2010-11 - 60,005.
If you are going to finish nowhere and win fuck all (as L'Arsenal have done for the past few years) then it's better to do it playing good football and much more enjoyable for the supporters.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
As you're so fond of facts, here's a few:
Arsenal average attendances:
1988-89 - 35,595
1990-91 - 36,864
2010-11 - 60,005.
So, Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because they play nice football or Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because of the relative capacity of Highbury vs Asburton Grove? I think it is a capacity effect, what do you think?
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
As you're so fond of facts, here's a few:
Arsenal average attendances:
1988-89 - 35,595
1990-91 - 36,864
2010-11 - 60,005.
So, Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because they play nice football or Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because of the relative capacity of Highbury vs Asburton Grove? I think it is a capacity effect, what do you think?
I think it shows that statistics can be twisted to prove whatever you want them to prove. Arsenal's highest gate in 1988-89 was over 54,000 by the way, which means capacity didn't have all that much to do with it.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
As you're so fond of facts, here's a few:
Arsenal average attendances:
1988-89 - 35,595
1990-91 - 36,864
2010-11 - 60,005.
So, Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because they play nice football or Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because of the relative capacity of Highbury vs Asburton Grove? I think it is a capacity effect, what do you think?
I think it shows that statistics can be twisted to prove whatever you want them to prove. Arsenal's highest gate in 1988-89 was over 54,000 by the way, which means capacity didn't have all that much to do with it.
I know that attendances in the 80s were lower than than are today but I don't understand what it is that you have proven in relation to this discussion.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
As you're so fond of facts, here's a few:
Arsenal average attendances:
1988-89 - 35,595
1990-91 - 36,864
2010-11 - 60,005.
So, Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because they play nice football or Arsenal attendances have increased dramatically because of the relative capacity of Highbury vs Asburton Grove? I think it is a capacity effect, what do you think?
I think it shows that statistics can be twisted to prove whatever you want them to prove. Arsenal's highest gate in 1988-89 was over 54,000 by the way, which means capacity didn't have all that much to do with it.
I know that attendances in the 80s were lower than than are today but I don't understand what it is that you have proven in relation to this discussion.
No, I didn't think you would.
I don't think I need to add to your problems.
Tippy-Tappy denotes style over substance.
Bollocks.
"Tippy-Tappy" denotes a punters dismissive description of good, passing, possession football when they know they're own team either can't do it or is trying but hasn't yet got it right.
There is a reason why most football fans would prefer to watch Arsenal and Barcelona rather than Wigan or Bolton.
Bollocks? Fuck off.
The reason people watch Arsenal and Barcelona over Wigan and Bolton is because Arsenal and Barcelona know how to win games and trophies.
Do you think Arsenal fans are happier today than when they were winning trophies though 1-0 wars of attrition? Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars.
Arsenal have hardly been claiming the silverware in the last few years.
Referring to your example, the important thing you seem to miss is that, although they had Bould, Adams and Keown, they ALSO had Bergkamp and Overmars.
My Arsenal ST holding mate is happy as a pig in shit today, because his team beat Barcelona last night AND played good football whilst doing so. To listen to you, you'd think the two things were mutually exclusive.
And as for Aston Villa not being an aesthetically pleasing troupe, one might suggest that given our consistent failure to fill our ground, a bit more entertainment might go a long way.
I said... "Bould, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Wright were as important as Bergkamp and Overmars. "
You said... "the important thing you seem to miss is that, although they had Bould, Adams and Keown, they ALSO had Bergkamp and Overmars"
I didn't miss it at all did I?
You said... "My Arsenal ST holding mate is happy as a pig in shit today, because his team beat Barcelona last night AND played good football whilst doing so. To listen to you, you'd think the two things were mutually exclusive."
I say... "How are your Barcelona ST holding mates feeling?"
Winning football matches and playing entertaining football aren't mutually exclusive, it's just that in football one outweighs the other by enormous orders of magnitude.
A bit more winning is what is needed at the Villa, if you're in need of entertainment first and foremost get yourself along to the Hippodrome.
Chris, while I see the point, surely by NOT lumping it in the box, they missed an opportunity to get that equaliser? Its great to watch teams play well by all means, but the stat that counts and continues to count is the one usually in the top left hand corner on the TV screen, or on the new (small) scoreboard next to the North stand.
The point being missed here is yes Barca tippy tapped, played triangles, had everyone fawning over them on Wedshaving had a perfectly ligitimate goal disallowed
But they LOST the football match
The point being missed here is yes Barca tippy tapped, played triangles, had everyone fawning over them on WedsFair point.
But they LOST the football match
The point being missed here is yes Barca tippy tapped, played triangles, had everyone fawning over them on WedsFair point.
But they LOST the football match
Do you thnk they will lose the tie ?
The point being missed here is yes Barca tippy tapped, played triangles, had everyone fawning over them on WedsFair point.
But they LOST the football match
Do you thnk they will lose the tie ?
I think Barca will go through, that away goal is of huge value
Think you're right Spangley, it wont be a simple game for Barca, they have to chase the game and we saw what Arsenal can do on the break. I just hope the Refereeing is impartial on the night.
What a 2nd leg it should be though, I was never really interested in CL, but the knock out stages are generally exceptional entertainment
I'm off out into the rain later to watch a bunch of amateurs play football, real non-league, not just in name only.
I'm off out into the rain later to watch a bunch of amateurs play football, real non-league, not just in name only.
Anywhere nice?
I'm of to Blackwood v Perrywood later if it's not rained off.
I'm considering a silly couple of quid on Mr Osbourne scoring the first goal for Sheff Weds today. 25/1 with William Hill. I'm tempted.
I'm considering a silly couple of quid on Mr Osbourne scoring the first goal for Sheff Weds today. 25/1 with William Hill. I'm tempted.
not very generous odds. Has he ever scored a goal at first team level ?
shop around you may get 40/1 somewhereI'm considering a silly couple of quid on Mr Osbourne scoring the first goal for Sheff Weds today. 25/1 with William Hill. I'm tempted.
not very generous odds. Has he ever scored a goal at first team level ?
I'm not sure actually but that's about the average odds for a non goalscoring centre midfielder.
Clampy, 33/1 on bet365
Clampy, 33/1 on bet365
Cheers Wiki, i tend not to bet online though.
Is that game on espn ? cant find it on sky
Can't get excited about watching the FA cup when Villa are out of it and although we are not out yet I can't help thinking that we are about to be. Jammy Blue noses, Sheff Weds at home!
Can't get excited about watching the FA cup when Villa are out of it and although we are not out yet I can't help thinking that we are about to be. Jammy Blue noses, Sheff Weds at home!
I see you're still waving the white flag with same amount of zeal.
It's just that since the draw was made you've not given us any chance whatsoever. I made the point at the time that the cup has shown over many years that the favourites don't always win. You're talking about us like we're Crawley Town going to Old Trafford as opposed to one of the biggest teams in English football history going to play Man City. Yes, we've had a difficult season, but that doesn't mean we don't have very good players that are more than capable of competing with Man City, and in fact beat them the last time the two sides played each other.
I'm not blindly optimistic at all. In fact, given the fact that we are both PL clubs, I'd say us having a chance of winning is a far more realistic assessment than you're "there's no chance at all we're going to win" stance.
Wouldn't rule Notts County out either, can see Hughes getting a goal
It's just that since the draw was made you've not given us any chance whatsoever. I made the point at the time that the cup has shown over many years that the favourites don't always win. You're talking about us like we're Crawley Town going to Old Trafford as opposed to one of the biggest teams in English football history going to play Man City. Yes, we've had a difficult season, but that doesn't mean we don't have very good players that are more than capable of competing with Man City, and in fact beat them the last time the two sides played each other.
I'm not blindly optimistic at all. In fact, given the fact that we are both PL clubs, I'd say us having a chance of winning is a far more realistic assessment than you're "there's no chance at all we're going to win" stance.
I don't remember ever saying there's no chance at all, I just know that Aston villa throughout my lifetime just don't go winning at Premier League clubs in the FA Cup. I remember Everton in 2000 en route to the Final and that's about it. Add that to the fact that they are a lot better than us at the moment and we have won twice in Manchester in the last 15 years or so and I can't see it, I just can't see it. Is that allowed? I will be there fully behind the team on the day but I reserve the right for pessimism on this one.
We might as well have lost yesterday and given our players a rest in 3 weeks. No chance of us winning there and even if we did Arsenal, Man United, Chelsea and possibly Spurs would be waiting for us in th QF. Add to that small heath very possibly going to Wembley twice after therir piss easy draw and it's bad news all round. Gutted, absolutely gutted.
It's just that since the draw was made you've not given us any chance whatsoever. I made the point at the time that the cup has shown over many years that the favourites don't always win. You're talking about us like we're Crawley Town going to Old Trafford as opposed to one of the biggest teams in English football history going to play Man City. Yes, we've had a difficult season, but that doesn't mean we don't have very good players that are more than capable of competing with Man City, and in fact beat them the last time the two sides played each other.
I'm not blindly optimistic at all. In fact, given the fact that we are both PL clubs, I'd say us having a chance of winning is a far more realistic assessment than you're "there's no chance at all we're going to win" stance.
I don't remember ever saying there's no chance at all, I just know that Aston villa throughout my lifetime just don't go winning at Premier League clubs in the FA Cup. I remember Everton in 2000 en route to the Final and that's about it. Add that to the fact that they are a lot better than us at the moment and we have won twice in Manchester in the last 15 years or so and I can't see it, I just can't see it. Is that allowed? I will be there fully behind the team on the day but I reserve the right for pessimism on this one.
Really? How about minutes after the draw was made.QuoteWe might as well have lost yesterday and given our players a rest in 3 weeks. No chance of us winning there and even if we did Arsenal, Man United, Chelsea and possibly Spurs would be waiting for us in th QF. Add to that small heath very possibly going to Wembley twice after therir piss easy draw and it's bad news all round. Gutted, absolutely gutted.
Can't get excited about watching the FA cup when Villa are out of it and although we are not out yet I can't help thinking that we are about to be. Jammy Blue noses, Sheff Weds at home!
I see you're still waving the white flag with same amount of zeal.
Why does being reallistic have to be "waving the white flag"? We are in a relegation battle, Man City are in the top 4. Our record signing is ineligible for the game and we are defending like a team destined for the drop. Yes, I think we will lose at Man City (and it will be them), sorry! Being a fan doesn't have to mean blind optimism at all times.
EDIT: And by blind optimism I just mean what I think the score will be, I am still spending hundreds of pounds on flying over for the game even though I think we will get knocked out.
It's just that since the draw was made you've not given us any chance whatsoever. I made the point at the time that the cup has shown over many years that the favourites don't always win. You're talking about us like we're Crawley Town going to Old Trafford as opposed to one of the biggest teams in English football history going to play Man City. Yes, we've had a difficult season, but that doesn't mean we don't have very good players that are more than capable of competing with Man City, and in fact beat them the last time the two sides played each other.
I'm not blindly optimistic at all. In fact, given the fact that we are both PL clubs, I'd say us having a chance of winning is a far more realistic assessment than you're "there's no chance at all we're going to win" stance.
I don't remember ever saying there's no chance at all, I just know that Aston villa throughout my lifetime just don't go winning at Premier League clubs in the FA Cup. I remember Everton in 2000 en route to the Final and that's about it. Add that to the fact that they are a lot better than us at the moment and we have won twice in Manchester in the last 15 years or so and I can't see it, I just can't see it. Is that allowed? I will be there fully behind the team on the day but I reserve the right for pessimism on this one.
Really? How about minutes after the draw was made.QuoteWe might as well have lost yesterday and given our players a rest in 3 weeks. No chance of us winning there and even if we did Arsenal, Man United, Chelsea and possibly Spurs would be waiting for us in th QF. Add to that small heath very possibly going to Wembley twice after therir piss easy draw and it's bad news all round. Gutted, absolutely gutted.
Ok, fair enough but that was immediately after the draw and I was fuming. I haven't said we have absolutely no chance with a clear head. Who knows, we may do it but I won't hold my breath.
Anyone got a link please?
Anyone got a link please?
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=105600&part=sports
Plenty here.
The Villa team and fans should NEVER fear any other team in any competition. Our founders formed Aston Villa to compete in the game at of Association Football at the highest possible level and we have a duty to stay as close to that as possible without fear.
The Villa team and fans should NEVER fear any other team in any competition. Our founders formed Aston Villa to compete in the game at of Association Football at the highest possible level and we have a duty to stay as close to that as possible without fear.
Bloody hell!! All I've said is I don'y think we'll win. I'm still going!
It's our, (well Everton's but they are our brothers) year for the cup!
Spot-kicks in front of the away fans, how often does that happen?
Good and it could be Meadow Lane!The Villa team and fans should NEVER fear any other team in any competition. Our founders formed Aston Villa to compete in the game at of Association Football at the highest possible level and we have a duty to stay as close to that as possible without fear.Bloody hell!! All I've said is I don'y think we'll win. I'm still going!
Stoke 1-0 Brighton.........Carew
Acres of blue plastic on show at The Sty again
Fantastic win by Everton ...a proper football club.
Weimann scored for Watford some good news!
Anyone believe Lerner having regrets at appointing Houllier instead of Ericsson after seeing him take Leicester from the bottom of the championship to play-off including just winning 5 in a row!
Acres of blue plastic on show at The Sty again
Considering there are at least 6,000 from Sheffield there, I can't see the attendance being more than 10,000.
Was Sven interviewed ?
Acres of blue plastic on show at The Sty again
Considering there are at least 6,000 from Sheffield there, I can't see the attendance being more than 10,000.
Truly pathetic, isn't it cheap seat day too ??
Was Sven interviewed ?
Yes along with Curbishley, MacDonald and someone else I think.
Was Sven interviewed ?
Was Sven interviewed ?
Yes along with Curbishley, MacDonald and someone else I think.
Acres of blue plastic on show at The Sty again
Considering there are at least 6,000 from Sheffield there, I can't see the attendance being more than 10,000.
Acres of blue plastic on show at The Sty again
Considering there are at least 6,000 from Sheffield there, I can't see the attendance being more than 10,000.
However we only had just over half capacity v Blackburn.
Acres of blue plastic on show at The Sty again
Considering there are at least 6,000 from Sheffield there, I can't see the attendance being more than 10,000.
However we only had just over half capacity v Blackburn.
Acres of blue plastic on show at The Sty again
Considering there are at least 6,000 from Sheffield there, I can't see the attendance being more than 10,000.
However we only had just over half capacity v Blackburn.
Twenty Odd Thousand... If that was their attendance they would be delighted.
14,607 at the Sty. I'm surprised it's that high.
14,607 at the Sty. I'm surprised it's that high.
So what's that, 8,000 home fans? What happened to Wembley fever? Pathetic.
Fantastic win by Everton ...a proper football club.
Empty seats at the biggest bestest club in the world (TM)!!!They got a shade under 75,000. To see Crawley.
Don't they have some sort of scheme where STH's have to buy tickets for the cup games too. A case of tickets sold>number of people in the ground.
Was Sven interviewed ?
Yes along with Curbishley, MacDonald and someone else I think.
Houllier?
Is it me or does the Crawley manager look like a fatter Andy Gray but with a rug on his head?
Yes but they are not in any way comparable to us. To me 26k v Blackburn was as pathetic at 15k for them.
Yes but they are not in any way comparable to us. To me 26k v Blackburn was as pathetic at 15k for them.
Blackburn brought 300 fans to Villa Park. Sheff Wed took 6000 to the Sty. It's hardly comparable.
i think crawley got no help from the ref at all, in fact i think that they outplayed utd reserves and if the ref had been straight they would have at least got a draw
iI am surprised Milner is not playing in a game like this.
What the backs to the pitch celebration about?
Ex full time footballer now occasional player and a specialist sub bench sitter!iI am surprised Milner is not playing in a game like this.
Who?
Ex full time footballer now occasional player and a specialist sub bench sitter!iI am surprised Milner is not playing in a game like this.
Who?
County fans outsinging the Mancs by a hilarious margin.
County fans outsinging the Mancs by a hilarious margin.
As if they wouldn't have done the same at Villa Park?
iI am surprised Milner is not playing in a game like this.Injured
Is the draw for the next round after the £iteh game?
Is the draw for the next round after the £iteh game?
Yes about 16:05pm
Good start by County ...which means they will lose 3-0.
Aftab, did you put that bet on for 3-0?Ooops hope you didn't.
Good start by County ...which means they will lose 3-0.
And what are the lottery numbers this week?
Aftab, did you put that bet on for 3-0?Ooops hope you didn't.
Good start by County ...which means they will lose 3-0.
And what are the lottery numbers this week?
Actually, don't bother.
They are class at home. Tevez just loves playing at Eastlands, we couldn't have wished for a worse draw than this. Can't believe the scum got Sheff Weds at home, I bet they get West Ham at home in the QF and we get Man U away IF we get past City, the media will be creaming themselves over the prospect of a Manc derby for a place at Wembley.
EDIT: I don't even think I'll bother watching the draw to be honest. It is completely immaterial at the moment.
They are class at home. Tevez just loves playing at Eastlands, we couldn't have wished for a worse draw than this. Can't believe the scum got Sheff Weds at home, I bet they get West Ham at home in the QF and we get Man U away IF we get past City, the media will be creaming themselves over the prospect of a Manc derby for a place at Wembley.
EDIT: I don't even think I'll bother watching the draw to be honest. It is completely immaterial at the moment.
Yes, I think you've made your point. Several times over, in fact.
Blimey whats Juskellinaan done to his barnet
Lets just concentrate on our push for Europe
Man City will finish in the top 6 and they could be in the final against Arsenal or man United, that would also give 7th a Europa spot. Not that we will be anywhere near 7th mind, survival will do for this season, we can concentrate on getting into Europe next year.Lets just concentrate on our push for Europe
The draw has further hit our limited chances of a place in Europe... as it can't be a Man U - Arsenal Final it is unlikely that seventh will be good enough. Unless we make the Final we probably won't be in Europe. Mind you, I'm sick of Rapid fucking Vienna anyway.
Will they get a share of the gate receipts from the replay?
Cheers. That is a very tidy windfall. I bet the Orient chairman was praying they didn't score a winner in the final minutes.Will they get a share of the gate receipts from the replay?
I think they get 45% of net gate receipts and big TV money if it's on the box.
Would it of mattered anyway because even if they won they would of played United away (bigger stadium)?Cheers. That is a very tidy windfall. I bet the Orient chairman was praying they didn't score a winner in the final minutes.Will they get a share of the gate receipts from the replay?
I think they get 45% of net gate receipts and big TV money if it's on the box.
Cheers. That is a very tidy windfall. I bet the Orient chairman was praying they didn't score a winner in the final minutes.Will they get a share of the gate receipts from the replay?
I think they get 45% of net gate receipts and big TV money if it's on the box.
Nice.
Nearly as nice not knowing that Dogheads-Baggies was being played today and waking up finding out it was a draw.
And having no idea Blose lost to Newcastle on Tuesday only finding out today.
Nice.
Nearly as nice not knowing that Dogheads-Baggies was being played today and waking up finding out it was a draw.
And having no idea Blose lost to Newcastle on Tuesday only finding out today.
We should never have let him go.We didn't.
We should never have let him go.We didn't.
We really should have picked him up in the summer.
We offered him a new contract, he declined to sign it in order to sign for Stuttgart. Short of manacling him to the Holte Gates there's not a lot more we could have done.We should never have let him go.We didn't.
So what did we do when he left?
If he wasn't scoring a screamer though what did he actually do? He's slow, can't pass, can't tackle and if he didn't score a belter then you wouldn't have known he was playing most of the time.Someone clearly hasn't seen him play since 2005.
He's another who history has served well - a one-trick pony of limited ability.
He's another who history has served well - a one-trick pony of limited ability.
We offered him a contract after leaving him out of the team for weeks on end, for no apparent reason. Had we offered him when he was a first-team regular he would've signed quicker than you can say "Gesundheit!".I'm certainly not claiming that O'Leary was a tactical master or that we treated him particularly well.
He's another who history has served well - a one-trick pony of limited ability.
We offered him a contract after leaving him out of the team for weeks on end, for no apparent reason. Had we offered him when he was a first-team regular he would've signed quicker than you can say "Gesundheit!".I'm certainly not claiming that O'Leary was a tactical master or that we treated him particularly well.
But regardless of all that, we still didn't "let him go". He chose to sign for another club.
Again, it's all fairly hypothetical.We offered him a contract after leaving him out of the team for weeks on end, for no apparent reason. Had we offered him when he was a first-team regular he would've signed quicker than you can say "Gesundheit!".I'm certainly not claiming that O'Leary was a tactical master or that we treated him particularly well.
But regardless of all that, we still didn't "let him go". He chose to sign for another club.
Well, true. But we certainly could've done more to keep him
He's got a class shot on him, but he isn't class, he's average apart from that.
He's got a class shot on him, but he isn't class, he's average apart from that.
Sorry but you do not get 52 caps for the German national side by being "average"
He was a class act that we let slip
He's another who history has served well - a one-trick pony of limited ability.
2-0. Another ex Villa, Can't Control. Lets hear you all wax lyrical about him now, how he was brilliant for us and we shouldn't have let him go...
Now stop salivating over Hitz's goal. Once in a blue moon strike. He was not that good and didn't exactly set germany on fire when he moved. Limited player.He signed for Stuttgart and they won their first title in 15 years with Hitz scoring the winner in the game that won it for them. Which cemented his place in the Germany squad.
Hitz's caps were mostly in a period when Germans were very poor. He never made it as regular choice in key games.
Hitz's caps were mostly in a period when Germans were very poor. He never made it as regular choice in key games.
Hitz's caps were mostly in a period when Germans were very poor. He never made it as regular choice in key games.
His last cap was just after the world cup when he captained the side and would have been at the world cup but for a bad spell at Lazio.
Are all your ex-girlfriends perfect too?
Bloody West Ham or Stoke at Wembley, and you just know for a fact Blues will beat Bolton and get Stoke in the semis and end up in another final. Although seeing them lose two finals and get relegated would be amusing.
Bloody West Ham or Stoke at Wembley, and you just know for a fact Blues will beat Bolton and get Stoke in the semis and end up in another final. Although seeing them lose two finals and get relegated would be amusing.
Hitz's caps were mostly in a period when Germans were very poor. He never made it as regular choice in key games.Some people clearly have an opinion based on 2004 alone and it would seem that no amount of facts or evidence to the contrary will ever change that.
If Blues lose both Cup Finals they will probably qualify for Europe. Balls to that.But they'd lose the Europa League qualifier anyway against some Kazakhstan part-timers. I might stick a quid on them losing both finals and going down.
If Blues lose both Cup Finals they will probably qualify for Europe. Balls to that.
Hitz's caps were mostly in a period when Germans were very poor. He never made it as regular choice in key games.Some people clearly have an opinion based on 2004 alone and it would seem that no amount of facts or evidence to the contrary will ever change that.
If Blues lose both Cup Finals they will probably qualify for Europe. Balls to that.But they'd lose the Europa League qualifier anyway against some Kazakhstan part-timers. I might stick a quid on them losing both finals and going down.
If Blues lose both Cup Finals they will probably qualify for Europe. Balls to that.But they'd lose the Europa League qualifier anyway against some Kazakhstan part-timers. I might stick a quid on them losing both finals and going down.
They would still boast for ever about being in Europe if Villa weren't there. They still bang on about being the first English team in Europe... even though they weren't, and they only entered because Villa couldn't be bothered.
It would.Hitz's caps were mostly in a period when Germans were very poor. He never made it as regular choice in key games.Some people clearly have an opinion based on 2004 alone and it would seem that no amount of facts or evidence to the contrary will ever change that.
It would be interesting to see if Hitzlsperger manages to find a regular place in the Germany squad now, what with them having Ozil, Khedira et al to choose from.
I thought they did win it? Beat Tranmere in the Final... Big John Gayle hat-trick. That was the European Cup wasn't it?
It would.Hitz's caps were mostly in a period when Germans were very poor. He never made it as regular choice in key games.Some people clearly have an opinion based on 2004 alone and it would seem that no amount of facts or evidence to the contrary will ever change that.
It would be interesting to see if Hitzlsperger manages to find a regular place in the Germany squad now, what with them having Ozil, Khedira et al to choose from.
But so far, when fit, he has been selected alongside them.
I think I will shed a tear the first time I hear him do an interview in Teutonic-Cockney.
Still sounds quite Brummie.
So, Anyone think Blackpool will pull off a shock win tonight
So, Anyone think Blackpool will pull off a shock win tonight
I hope not as that would sink us further into the mire!
So, Anyone think Blackpool will pull off a shock win tonight
I hope not as that would sink us further into the mire!
Its been one of those seasons
Watching some of the Chelsea game. Imagine someone having one of those massive flags in front of you, would drive you mental.
This Chelsea game is a great advert for Championship football.In fairness to Copenghagen it's their first competative game since the first week in December
This Chelsea game is a great advert for Championship football.In fairness to Copenghagen it's their first competative game since the first week in December
Come on, Spurs.Now there's a phrase I would never in a million years expect on this site !!!!
Hmmm.
Fancy Spurs to come back and win this. Got 14/1 as HT started. Strangely in to 8/1 now
good bet paulie happened alot this season. Mind you 14/1 is fukin low odds
2-0 Tamurff Dave
all spurs now ... pav just headed straight at sean kingston jaja!
COYS omg wot am isaying !
all spurs now ... pav just headed straight at sean kingston jaja!
COYS omg wot am isaying !
I really have no idea.
I'm confused. Who are the baddies?
Leeds 3-2 Barnsley
another goal line clearance... and kingson been making a few nice stops...Can I recommend a glass of water and a lie down? Or perhaps a strong sedative.
woo crouchie on for bassong
crouch should score put away chances the others have missed!!
to be fair spurs should be ahead now!!
but now they have aniother striker for defender leaves game open..
Blackpool `defending like beavers' according to Phil Thompson. The mind boggles
this is so spurs ..reminds me of when they played inter and then go and get spanked to bolton...
Perhaps a draw at Blackpool wasn't that bad a result after all.
Guess we'll see how important Adam is to Blackpool now- from BBC Live Text -
"Many of the Spurs fans who were at Bloomfield Road have already left to start the long journey down south. They miss a rash tackle by Charlie Adam on Michael Dawson the edge of the Tottenham area after the Scot's control let him down. Adam is shown a yellow card and he will now miss Blackpool's games against Wolves and Chelsea. No need for that at this stage"
Perhaps a draw at Blackpool wasn't that bad a result after all.
Perhaps a draw at Blackpool wasn't that bad a result after all.
It wasn't a bad result, no.
The problem we have is that we could really do with winning a decent run of games soon, and although we're looking slightly harder to beat (although still conceding too many goals), we don't look like we're about to go on a winning run any time soon.
Perhaps a draw at Blackpool wasn't that bad a result after all.
It wasn't a bad result, no.
The problem we have is that we could really do with winning a decent run of games soon, and although we're looking slightly harder to beat (although still conceding too many goals), we don't look like we're about to go on a winning run any time soon.
It was aimed at the argument aired yesterday that we are currently "truly awful" when we clearly aren't. Neither are we truly brilliant, we're truly inconsistent with very good and very shit bits on display in most matches. No need for the italics, we are harder to beat -1 defeat in 8 demonstrates that - but draws aren't enough and we need to step up another level and do it starting on Saturday.
Blackpool `defending like beavers' according to Phil Thompson. The mind boggles
Dam building, a sign of defence
"I don't think there is a word that has been written, printed or ever produced in the dictionary that I can use for how pleased I am,"enthused Holloway.
Well, if you go back a hundred or so pages, you can find some people happy when Blackpool beat Liverpool. I wonder if any of those people are a little less confident now?!Nope, not at all.
Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
ITV is the worst side to watch football on. Looking forwards to next Wednesday...
Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
What do you get if you win, a zebra? I don't understand these new-fangled bookmakers.
ITV is the worst side to watch football on. Looking forwards to next Wednesday...
Although, in their defence, I quite like the way Desailly pronounces "focus" as "fuckers". Get him as commentator and get rid of that twat Tyldesley.
Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
What do you get if you win, a zebra? I don't understand these new-fangled bookmakers.
Well hopefully Blues will have a mare. ::) A pony is 25 quid.
Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
HES is that to win at 90 mins or to win the cup outright? and who?
Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
What do you get if you win, a zebra? I don't understand these new-fangled bookmakers.
Well hopefully Blues will have a mare. ::) A pony is 25 quid.
Not in Birmingham, it's not. Or are you talking in Cockernee to fit in with the Arsenal fans in the pub on Sunday? Like it, good work.
Casinos? You must have money to burn. Can you lend us £2,000 till pay day? Sorry, I meant can you lend us an antelope till pay day? ;-)
Casinos? You must have money to burn. Can you lend us £2,000 till pay day? Sorry, I meant can you lend us an antelope till pay day? ;-)
I might go 20 quid for them to win the cup at 3/1 with Paddypowers. A sort of win win bet!Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
HES is that to win at 90 mins or to win the cup outright? and who?
Blues to win in 90 mins is 7 to 1 with skybet.
Just got 7 to 1 on Blues win. Had a pony on it. I hope I lose it but with the team Arsenal will put out I'd be surprised.
I watched both legs of the Liverpool game, I feel like a total mug
McGeady's late equaliser for Spartak Moscow against FC Basle means that Scotland will have 2 Champion's League spots next year, rather than 1.
Switzerland would have gained the 2nd spot otherwise.
So the ex-Celtic player has probably helped Rangers out.
Fuck Chasetown, bunch of bastards.
Fuck Chasetown, bunch of bastards.
Not a fan Dave?
its cos chasetown are better than tamworth
I like to see all the ex-league teams do well. Well, most. So i'd like to see mansfield do well. Although i have to admit i don't really care. but i do like to see the ex-league sides bounce back. Apart from Wrexham, they're Welsh. but so are Newport and I want them back.
How much did you celebrate when Burton got promoted ;)I like to see all the ex-league teams do well. Well, most. So i'd like to see mansfield do well. Although i have to admit i don't really care. but i do like to see the ex-league sides bounce back. Apart from Wrexham, they're Welsh. but so are Newport and I want them back.
I'm the opposite, despite it meaning that the division Tamworth are in is cluttered with ex-league clubs all thinking they are better than this and all convinced they are only there "on loan" and will "piss this tin-pot league"! (There are exceptions, the Darlington fans seem to love it down here, most of the ones I spoke to prefer it to the League).
I love it when a "proper" non-league club pips all the ex-leaguers to promotion, I even half celebrated Stevenage going up, and I hate Stevenage, but it kept Luton down and that's good.
Oh by the way, is Darlington's the biggest ground in non-league history? Twenty-five thousand. Good luck filling that!
How much did you celebrate when Burton got promoted ;)
Yes the beer makes it a popular away day in league 2 would recommend it if Villa get drawn there in the league cup - and they've got terracing behind the goal!
How much did you celebrate when Burton got promoted ;)
I have never had a problem with Burton, they are not Tamworth's traditional rivals (that would be Nuneaton, Atherstone and, to an extent, Stafford Rangers) they just became convenient rivals in The Conference as the closest club.
Always liked away trips there for obvious beer reasons.
Six Premier League games today, all kicking off at 3.00 p.m.
I'm feeling all nostalgic, think I might tie a scarf round my wrist and commit some random acts of vandalism to celebrate.
good luck too Chasetown tommorrow in their quater final tie against Mansfield Town
147 unbeaten home games in a row for Jose Mourinho now with Porto, Chelsea, Inter and Real. Whatever you think of him... that's a phenomenal record. If they keep it up he will be 150 unbeaten by the time Barcelona visit in April.
MotD now and just saw Rooney thump a Wigan player in the face in an off ball incident. Clattenberg had a word with him but I hope that will not save him from further action?Rooney will get away with it.Clattenberg is the worst ref I have ever seen.
After every Arsenal goal tomorrow I want a couple of bars of 'feelin hot-hot-hot!!' and a shot of a crying fat man dressed as Andy PandyIm not at Wembley this year.
United manager Ferguson took an even stronger view.
"I have had a chance to see it," he said. "There is nothing in it.United manager Ferguson took an even stronger view.
"I have had a chance to see it," he said. "There is nothing in it.
Clampy did the Wigan player provoke Rooney? On MOTD it claimed he just stepped in Rooneys way? To think Heskey got a 3 match ban for just touching an opposing player then Rooney gets the warm arm of the ref around him for assulting a player with a swinging arm. And people say Manu dont get preferential teatment.
Clampy did the Wigan player provoke Rooney? On MOTD it claimed he just stepped in Rooneys way? To think Heskey got a 3 match ban for just touching an opposing player then Rooney gets the warm arm of the ref around him for assulting a player with a swinging arm. And people say Manu dont get preferential teatment.
I'm not supporting Rooney at all, the opposite in fact. I was saying there was'nt much difference in what Rooney did to what DJ Campbell did. Rooney only stayed on the pitch because the starstruck ref did'nt have the bottle to send him off.
Clampy did the Wigan player provoke Rooney? On MOTD it claimed he just stepped in Rooneys way? To think Heskey got a 3 match ban for just touching an opposing player then Rooney gets the warm arm of the ref around him for assulting a player with a swinging arm. And people say Manu dont get preferential teatment.
I'm not supporting Rooney at all, the opposite in fact. I was saying there was'nt much difference in what Rooney did to what DJ Campbell did. Rooney only stayed on the pitch because the starstruck ref did'nt have the bottle to send him off.
Im with you Clampy, just wanted to know if you saw why Rooney would react like that?
To me the Wigan player made a fair challenge to the ball but Rooney's reaction was over the top and the ref was right behind it. He should have at least been booked.
Especially as the ref didn't see it,or didn't see it fully. Fergie has already laid down his marker in the press today,and no doubt that the powers that be will shit themselves and do nothing.
Especially as the ref didn't see it,or didn't see it fully. Fergie has already laid down his marker in the press today,and no doubt that the powers that be will shit themselves and do nothing.
Its going to be very interesting to see what happens with this tomorrow..........If Clattenfergie did see it then the FA should suspend him for not sending Rooney off for a violent act of foul play and if he did not see it then Rooney should be banned for 3 matches immediately an he would miss the Chelsea/Liverpool and Bolton games
Get in there. West ham 1-0.
Get in there. West ham 1-0.
Indeed. we are looking up now and this is a good thing!
Yea, what was that awful 'music' that was being played after the Wolves goals? Sounded something out of Oliver.
Meireles off injured. Liverpool could struggle to score now. (at least without Wet Spam help).
6 points behind sixth with ten games to go and a decent run-in. Optimistic, sure, but what the hell.Good result for us. It could all come down to the last game of the season, Liverpool at Villa Park.
6 points behind sixth with ten games to go and a decent run-in. Optimistic, sure, but what the hell.Good result for us. It could all come down to the last game of the season, Liverpool at Villa Park.
Fuck me Bowyer was miles onThe Gypsy's Curse strikes again. Onside, absolute clear cut penalty.. LOVE IT!
5 mins in and I cant heat sotv...are they growing up?
I remember our rendition of My Old Man at our last Wembley trip...
Plenty of empty seats in the prawn cocktail section...again
When did Arshavin become so shit ?
Oh sweet Jesus, just switched between overs. What the fuck is going on?
Oh sweet Jesus, just switched between overs. What the fuck is going on?
Fell sorry for you Chris.Oh sweet Jesus, just switched between overs. What the fuck is going on?
Arsenal have been absolutely shit.
Just remember were 1-0 up against the Red shit of Manchester last year, so this is far, far, FAR from over.
Especially considering as it is Blues. Arse overcame Barcelona's 1-0 lead, so surely they can overcome this bunch of inbred smurfs?
I know the party line on here is very often 'Ohh we're all supporters together and we should get on with them' but fuck them and I hope they get trounced.
Dancing round my living room for an Arsenal goal. That can't be right. Can it?
The one thing that would annoy me if I was an Arsenal fan, how many times could they have got the ball into the box in the last few mins of injury time, and instead just kept passing sideways looking for the "perfect" pass it seemed. That late in the half, lump it into the box and hope for the best is surely a better philosophy?i said similar earlier. They always seem to be looking for the perfect goal
The one thing that would annoy me if I was an Arsenal fan, how many times could they have got the ball into the box in the last few mins of injury time, and instead just kept passing sideways looking for the "perfect" pass it seemed. That late in the half, lump it into the box and hope for the best is surely a better philosophy?i said similar earlier. They always seem to be looking for the perfect goal
Bowyer can't moan about anything.Other than the penalty appeal.
Bowyer is a cheating little shit too. Twice he has stayed down, first time Koscielmy did not touch him by a good foot and the second Ridgewell got him and he pointed at Arshavin. c***.
Bowyer can't moan about anything.Other than the penalty appeal.
Interviewing "Birmingham's Curtis Davies". WTF!! How many times has he ever played for them. Twat.
Interviewing "Birmingham's Curtis Davies". WTF!! How many times has he ever played for them. Twat.
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He still wouldn't have got in our team yesterday.
Hence the reason he's at the graveyard of Midlands football.
there are a lot of parralels with this and last years final.
Gardner going off injured. That's a shame.
Ha ha ha, off the post
I still have this horrible feeling that it's their day.
Gardner dreamt he would score the winner at wembley, not now you're not!
Arshavin has been shit today
I still have this horrible feeling that it's their day.
Arshavin has been shit today
I cant believe how many times theyv sung kro!! I know they dont have that many other songs but this takes the piss!
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Well, thats one route we shouldn't go down
Gardner dreamt he would score the winner at wembley, not now you're not!
If they lose I'll have to put up with his family moaning and groaning in the Club Lounge tonight. If they win I believe they have somewhere else to go.
Gardner dreamt he would score the winner at wembley, not now you're not!
If they lose I'll have to put up with his family moaning and groaning in the Club Lounge tonight. If they win I believe they have somewhere else to go.
If they win I believe I have somewhere else to go for the next few weeks. Tristan da Cunha looks nice.
I'd happily see this go to extra time and the Arse scoring a few more. The Rags would never recover this season and they'd sink like a turd after a vindaloo.
I can see Martins winning this for them.
Think it might be time to lock the forum to new members, you know the only way they'll celebrate is by gloating.
There is one way we can still belittle this and that will be us winning the FA cup.Not a fucking chance.
The sickening thing is, if it had been us against Arsenal today, we'd have fucked it up.
Arsenal have been crap.The sickening thing is, if it had been us against Arsenal today, we'd have fucked it up.
If it was us against Arsenal today they wouldn't have played anywhere near this shit.
Fuck off Arsenal. You useless bunch of wankers.
What a bunch of bottlers Arsenal are. I wish we could have played them instead of Man U last season.No Fabregas, no Walcott.
Time to turn the TV off - can't face the sight of them collecting the cup and the neanderthals celebrating
They still had way more talent on the pitch than the Dog Shit, but not the guts or application.What a bunch of bottlers Arsenal are. I wish we could have played them instead of Man U last season.No Fabregas, no Walcott.
Fuck off Arsenal. You useless bunch of wankers.
c***s
7 FA cupsScant consolation for our younger supporters, 15 years old you will never have seen us lift a trophy.
7 League titles
5 League cups
1 European cup
1 Super cup
They put in a much better performance than we did on our two visits there last year.
7 FA cupsScant consolation for our younger supporters, 15 years old you will never have seen us lift a trophy.
7 League titles
5 League cups
1 European cup
1 Super cup
nice to see the leader of Bham Council sucking Carson Yeung`s cock.The cock.I spotted the Tory c unt.
Fa cup a must now.
omg the open top bus beckons
Hurts to say it but fair play to them - we wouldn't have beaten arsenal . We did sod all when we went there twice last year .
For one round.omg the open top bus beckons
and Europe next season......................
I know, I was trying to be positive. Still, would Man United fans be this gutted if City won the League cup? Or Liverpool if Everton won it? Let them have there day in sun, it means fuck all compared to who we are.7 FA cupsScant consolation for our younger supporters, 15 years old you will never have seen us lift a trophy.
7 League titles
5 League cups
1 European cup
1 Super cup
Younger than 19 and you probably wont even remember it. Though i've still been to wembley as many times as Blues have in their history.
Fuck off Arsenal. You useless bunch of wankers.
c***s
Hope the shits get stuffed by Barca and Orient.
Wenger has failed to buy the goalkeeper and decent centre half that they need and that is what has cost them.
The way in which they won it sums them up really.But they should have had a penalty and potentially been a player up after 90 seconds but the linesman got the decision wrong.
But, they succeeded where we failed last season (even if they needed a big piece of luck to do it).
It also means that 7th place is no longer an Europa League place. At least not for now.omg the open top bus beckons
and Europe next season......................
Blues were the better side...
I think they're a bunch of inbred slime, but all we'll hear now is
'When was the last time you won a trophy?'
Sorry Chris, but I think they were the better side overall, kept their shape well and stuck to a game plan.Blues were the better side...
Were they fuck.
They battled well and made it hard for Arsenal but no way were they better and they just got a huge fluke to win it.
Typical fucking Arsenal to fuck up like that at the end.
Blues were the better side...
Were they fuck.
They battled well and made it hard for Arsenal but no way were they better and they just got a huge fluke to win it.
Typical fucking Arsenal to fuck up like that at the end.
Have the mods blocked new users yet?
They've had a hell of a lot of luck along the way in terms of the draws, the goals etc, but they've won something so fair play to them I guess.
No doubt this means the balance of power has shifted blah blah blah.
They've had a hell of a lot of luck along the way in terms of the draws, the goals etc, but they've won something so fair play to them I guess.
No doubt this means the balance of power has shifted blah blah blah.
This is one of the reasons I hate those wankers so much. At the slightest opportunity they rewrite history and all we'll hear now is about them biggest the biggest and bestest.
They finally have some success and you can best with most of them that we are their first thought. When we've had success they are the last thing on my mind.
Surely everyone laughed though when they scored the second goal? I can't have been the only one?
Surely everyone laughed though when they scored the second goal? I can't have been the only one?
So glad I'm not in Brum at the moment.
They've had a hell of a lot of luck along the way in terms of the draws, the goals etc, but they've won something so fair play to them I guess.
No doubt this means the balance of power has shifted blah blah blah.
This is one of the reasons I hate those wankers so much. At the slightest opportunity they rewrite history and all we'll hear now is about them biggest the biggest and bestest.
They finally have some success and you can best with most of them that we are their first thought. When we've had success they are the last thing on my mind.
Cant we just give credit where its due? Well done Blues. I'm actually happy that it is fellow Brummies celebrating rather than another run of the mill victory for one of the big teams.This.
And lets not pretend their fans are anything other than normal Brummies. Some are ridiculous, some are thick as pig shit, some are vile. But the vast majority are just like us. I hope they enjoy it the way we would have done.
Cant we just give credit where its due? Well done Blues. I'm actually happy that it is fellow Brummies celebrating rather than another run of the mill victory for one of the big teams.
And lets not pretend their fans are anything other than normal Brummies. Some are ridiculous, some are thick as pig shit, some are vile. But the vast majority are just like us. I hope they enjoy it the way we would have done.
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
His reluctance to spend in the transfer market at key moments always seems to stuff him.
Not buying a decent centre half was a huge mistake.
I'm happy to admit they deserved it, but not happy that they won it, I don't care if does break any big team monopoly.
The rubbing of our noses in it after the Enckleman game and their subsequent treating of that night like they'd won the European cup, made me detest them even more.
Although, it could all be down to Thatcher.
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
His reluctance to spend in the transfer market at key moments always seems to stuff him.
Not buying a decent centre half was a huge mistake.
it wouldn't surpise me in the least now that they'll end the season empty handed again. This was their one very winnable tournament. Barcelona will do them now at the Nou Camp, Man U won't fuck up the league (waits patiently for the first mind grenade thrown by Sir Alex at Wenger), and Man U will knock them out of the FA Cup (if they beat Leyton Orient).
As for whether we could have beaten them, I think we could have. Under MON we allowed teams to play and hit them on the counter. Under GH we'd have gone right at them. Letting Man U play with the ball is suicide which it proved to be. It's been proved time and again that if you get stuck into Arsenal they'll be affected and Blues did that today and got a very good win. Had they been playing Man U, it wouldn't have been enough.
Going out for a pint tomorrow night with a Blues supporting mate, didn't occur to me when we arranged it that I would be having to deal with this. Will have to get my tactics right in advance.Tell him your ill.
Arsenal are a joke. Shambles. Embarrassment. Disgrace.
I think when I wake up tommorow, spend about 30 minutes on the elliptical trainer and deadlift about 300lbs I'm going to feel a bit better. It still feels like a dream that those neanderthals have won something, won't be too bothered by their fans.
Hopefully we can pull off the shock on Wednesday too.
Heard Citeh drew with Fulham at home. Not a good result for the,
Going out for a pint tomorrow night with a Blues supporting mate, didn't occur to me when we arranged it that I would be having to deal with this. Will have to get my tactics right in advance.Tell him your ill.
Going out for a pint tomorrow night with a Blues supporting mate, didn't occur to me when we arranged it that I would be having to deal with this. Will have to get my tactics right in advance.Did he go to the game? If he didn't - problem solved. If he did - pretend you forgot it was on and ask him who won
Going out for a pint tomorrow night with a Blues supporting mate, didn't occur to me when we arranged it that I would be having to deal with this. Will have to get my tactics right in advance.Tell him your ill.
Nah, that would be bottling it.
(http://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/images/wp/u-mad1.jpg)Arsenal are a joke. Shambles. Embarrassment. Disgrace.
I think when I wake up tommorow, spend about 30 minutes on the elliptical trainer and deadlift about 300lbs I'm going to feel a bit better. It still feels like a dream that those neanderthals have won something, won't be too bothered by their fans.
Hopefully we can pull off the shock on Wednesday too.
Heard Citeh drew with Fulham at home. Not a good result for the,
No wonder you keep landing all those 8/10's there Pinocchio. The needle on my Chin-O-Meter just broke.
Going out for a pint tomorrow night with a Blues supporting mate, didn't occur to me when we arranged it that I would be having to deal with this. Will have to get my tactics right in advance.Did he go to the game? If he didn't - problem solved. If he did - pretend you forgot it was on and ask him who won
Just talk about the thrilling cricket match between India and England.
(http://www.elevenwarriors.com/sites/default/files/images/wp/u-mad1.jpg)Arsenal are a joke. Shambles. Embarrassment. Disgrace.
I think when I wake up tommorow, spend about 30 minutes on the elliptical trainer and deadlift about 300lbs I'm going to feel a bit better. It still feels like a dream that those neanderthals have won something, won't be too bothered by their fans.
Hopefully we can pull off the shock on Wednesday too.
Heard Citeh drew with Fulham at home. Not a good result for the,
No wonder you keep landing all those 8/10's there Pinocchio. The needle on my Chin-O-Meter just broke.
Your jealously is melting my computer screen.
Still it could be worse, you could be a Raptors, Maple Leaf or Blue Jays fan, oh wait...
I said something like that to my missus. She asked if I was feeling alright.
From what I saw of it, Blues fully deserved to win. They had more spirit than Arsenal, and more importantly, they have a decent goalkeeper and know how to defend.
That match showed up Wenger's bizarre bllindness in refusing to understand that he needs both a bit of steel and determination in amongst all the fantastic passing, and a decent goalkeeper. Until he sorts that out, Arsenal won't win anything.
I really wanted Blues to lose, but there's no point being bitter about them winning, that'd be small time. It's a bit disappointing, but they played very well, and they deserved it, so fair play.
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
A team like Arsenal who had won next to bugger all before Wenger came along.
I reckon they owe him some slack yet.
From what I saw of it, Blues fully deserved to win. They had more spirit than Arsenal, and more importantly, they have a decent goalkeeper and know how to defend.
That match showed up Wenger's bizarre bllindness in refusing to understand that he needs both a bit of steel and determination in amongst all the fantastic passing, and a decent goalkeeper. Until he sorts that out, Arsenal won't win anything.
I really wanted Blues to lose, but there's no point being bitter about them winning, that'd be small time. It's a bit disappointing, but they played very well, and they deserved it, so fair play.
"But the vast majority are just like us."
lol
Going out for a pint tomorrow night with a Blues supporting mate, didn't occur to me when we arranged it that I would be having to deal with this. Will have to get my tactics right in advance.
The first time it was to say he felt bad because we only had 3 songs and they'd taken one away...
The first time it was to say he felt bad because we only had 3 songs and they'd taken one away...
Song for Wednesday night:
Birmingham City
Birmingham City
Three long days and they've won f*ck all
Birmingham City
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
A team like Arsenal who had won next to bugger all before Wenger came along.
I reckon they owe him some slack yet.
That match showed up Wenger's bizarre bllindness in refusing to understand that he needs both a bit of steel and determination in amongst all the fantastic passing, and a decent goalkeeper. Until he sorts that out, Arsenal won't win anything.
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
A team like Arsenal who had won next to bugger all before Wenger came along.
I reckon they owe him some slack yet.
I'm guessing you're being ironic Dave?
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
A team like Arsenal who had won next to bugger all before Wenger came along.
I reckon they owe him some slack yet.
I'm guessing you're being ironic Dave?
Not really, okay so they had won the odd trophy before Wenger but they were hardly the Big Four club that they are now presumed to be were they?
Arsenal owe Wenger a huge amount of debt, he made them into the Sky4 club that they are.
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
A team like Arsenal who had won next to bugger all before Wenger came along.
I reckon they owe him some slack yet.
I'm guessing you're being ironic Dave?
Not really, okay so they had won the odd trophy before Wenger but they were hardly the Big Four club that they are now presumed to be were they?
Arsenal owe Wenger a huge amount of debt, he made them into the Sky4 club that they are.
I'm glad Arsenal lost. The continual wanking over Wilshire pissed me off no end. And that arrogant little tosser Fabregas showing how to blow bubbles with chewing gum. They took blues for granted and paid the price. Just hope Man C do the same with us on Wednesday.
Crikey, Dave. The odd trophy?
In nine years, Graham won them:
2 First Division Championships, 1 FA Cup, 2 League Cups, and 1 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup.
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
A team like Arsenal who had won next to bugger all before Wenger came along.
I reckon they owe him some slack yet.
I'm guessing you're being ironic Dave?
Not really, okay so they had won the odd trophy before Wenger but they were hardly the Big Four club that they are now presumed to be were they?
Arsenal owe Wenger a huge amount of debt, he made them into the Sky4 club that they are.
Crikey, Dave. The odd trophy?
In nine years, Graham won them:
2 First Division Championships, 1 FA Cup, 2 League Cups, and 1 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup.
You've got a point in that Wenger has built "the club" in the wider sense, largely behind (with Dein) the move from Highbury to the Emirates and putting the club on an incredibly sound financial basis, but he inherited a club which had won plenty under the previous manager and had what was easily the best defence since Sky invented football for us.
I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
I'm glad Arsenal lost. The continual wanking over Wilshire pissed me off no end. And that arrogant little tosser Fabregas showing how to blow bubbles with chewing gum. They took blues for granted and paid the price. Just hope Man C do the same with us on Wednesday.
Yes, and me. Based on one good game against Barcelona, he was suddenly the future of English football
He may well be that in the long run but I wish we could all temper our expectations a little
For all Wenger's pretty football and discovery of unknown talent, they haven't won anything in six years and that's unacceptable to a team like Arsenal.
A team like Arsenal who had won next to bugger all before Wenger came along.
I reckon they owe him some slack yet.
I'm guessing you're being ironic Dave?
Not really, okay so they had won the odd trophy before Wenger but they were hardly the Big Four club that they are now presumed to be were they?
Arsenal owe Wenger a huge amount of debt, he made them into the Sky4 club that they are.
Crikey, Dave. The odd trophy?
In nine years, Graham won them:
2 First Division Championships, 1 FA Cup, 2 League Cups, and 1 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup.
You've got a point in that Wenger has built "the club" in the wider sense, largely behind (with Dein) the move from Highbury to the Emirates and putting the club on an incredibly sound financial basis, but he inherited a club which had won plenty under the previous manager and had what was easily the best defence since Sky invented football for us.
I'd argue that they will always owe Herbert Chapman far more, they'd won smeg all until they got him from Huddersfield.
But under Wenger/Dein/Sky they have been one of those clubs that have benefited hugely from modern football.
Arsenal go from the sublime (Barcelona) to the ridiculous (small Heath today)
That aside, SHA were very good today and they did the 2nd city good. Well done
I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
I'd agree, with Everton a gnats bollock behind us.
I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
I'd agree, with Everton a gnats bollock behind us.I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
No offense but bollocks, they shouldn't even be in the division.
I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
I'd agree, with Everton a gnats bollock behind us.I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
No offense but bollocks, they shouldn't even be in the division.
That match showed up Wenger's bizarre bllindness in refusing to understand that he needs both a bit of steel and determination in amongst all the fantastic passing, and a decent goalkeeper. Until he sorts that out, Arsenal won't win anything.
I've recently wondered if he would have still been Arsenal manager now if he didn't have Seaman, Adams, Keown, Winterburn and Dixon for his first 5 years or so. He did well getting Campbell to replace Adams early 2000's and Cole came through the ranks at about that time as well but his record since for defensive players has been comparatively atrocious in most cases.
Edit: Bloody dodgy internet connection meant Karlos beat me to the point.
From what I saw of it, Blues fully deserved to win. They had more spirit than Arsenal, and more importantly, they have a decent goalkeeper and know how to defend.
That match showed up Wenger's bizarre bllindness in refusing to understand that he needs both a bit of steel and determination in amongst all the fantastic passing, and a decent goalkeeper. Until he sorts that out, Arsenal won't win anything.
I really wanted Blues to lose, but there's no point being bitter about them winning, that'd be small time. It's a bit disappointing, but they played very well, and they deserved it, so fair play.
Agree 100% - if anything, it made me even more pissed off that we didn't take our opportunity last year.
I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
I'd agree, with Everton a gnats bollock behind us.I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
No offense but bollocks, they shouldn't even be in the division.
They would have got promoted anyway, a season or two later. The way they were throwing money around in the 1920s it was inevitable.
I switched off at full time so didn't see the trophy presentation. Was Fabregas allowed to go and collect the trophy as the Arsenal players wished?
I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
I'd agree, with Everton a gnats bollock behind us.I would rate Arsenal as, historically, the third biggest club. I would put Villa fourth.
No offense but bollocks, they shouldn't even be in the division.
I'd rate Villa as the biggest club historically.
I don't even bother rating anyone else, what's the point? They're not Aston Villa.
The season Hull City beat them at the Emirates he was particulary disrespectful even going so far as to calling them West Brom. There is absolutely no need for that sort of language.
The season Hull City beat them at the Emirates he was particulary disrespectful even going so far as to calling them West Brom. There is absolutely no need for that sort of language.
Yes, he was particularly churlish that day. I wonder what he called West Brom when they won there this season?
I like Wenger, I like watching Arsenal and the way they play, but at the end of the day, I don't really care if Wenger doesn't seem to realise they won't win anything without a bit more spine in the middle, and a decent goalkeeper at the very least, as I'm not an Arsenal fan.
I do find it deeply irritating when he moans on about teams teams playing "negatively" against them. It is due to the gigantic financial divide in football which Arsenal have profited so massively from that the bigger teams have infinitely more resources than the smaller clubs, and that the playing field is so uneven.
To then moan at smaller clubs for going to the Emirates and - as a result of that disparity - finding that the only way they can hope to get anything out of the game is to park the bus and stop Arsenal playing first and foremost, rather than allowing his team to play their passing game (and thereby murder them) is hypocritical.
Yep, it's media-misled Wenger-hate time.
Which really winds me up more - a guy who objects to his players getting a near leg-amputation every now and again, or a type of football that, because it wouldn't be allowed anywhere else, allows fucking Blues to win a trophy (and be applauded, God help us) and prevents England from progressing any further than 'laughing stock'?
Wenger doesn't object to teams going long-ball, he just a) doesn't think it works, b) wouldn't do it himself because he doesn't think it's entertaining and c) actually does have a problem with the underlying threat of violence that teams such as Stoke carry (see Andy Wilkinson's challenge on Moussa Dembele as an example).
ze strappy-feelth continue to play football the way they should, ie losing and being relegated
Come on Reading and Clyde. Couldn't give a toss about the Premier League game tonight. Classless Chavs vs Glory Hunting Twats. Yawn.
If that was the case we would all really hate Blues and Spurs and... oh, hang on...
I am not trying to encourage anyone else to like Clyde, wouldn't inflice that on anyone!
If that was the case we would all really hate Blues and Spurs and... oh, hang on...
I am not trying to encourage anyone else to like Clyde, wouldn't inflice that on anyone!
How can you hate a club that's named after a monkey?
Reading winning may not be a good thing. If Mancini was thinking of resting anyone tomorrow night he may think again with only Reading at home in the way of a Wembley appearance should they beat us.
2-1. Fcuk off Fergie and Rooney. you cheating bastards!If i had to choose which club i hated most, Chelsea would be the team. Every. Single. Time.
Never. It has to be Man Utd for their pure arrogance, scum fans and the way the media want to shag them.2-1. Fcuk off Fergie and Rooney. you cheating bastards!If i had to choose which club i hated most, Chelsea would be the team. Every. Single. Time.
I agree Mark........Man Utd for me its the way everyone is scared of Fergie, the FA, the Prem leagueNever. It has to be Man Utd for their pure arrogance, scum fans and the way the media want to shag them.2-1. Fcuk off Fergie and Rooney. you cheating bastards!If i had to choose which club i hated most, Chelsea would be the team. Every. Single. Time.
Chelsea are a team that have just bought success. It's difficult to that them seriously.
I agree Mark........Man Utd for me its the way everyone is scared of Fergie, the FA, the Prem leagueNever. It has to be Man Utd for their pure arrogance, scum fans and the way the media want to shag them.2-1. Fcuk off Fergie and Rooney. you cheating bastards!If i had to choose which club i hated most, Chelsea would be the team. Every. Single. Time.
Chelsea are a team that have just bought success. It's difficult to that them seriously.
Great goal from David Luiz for Chelsea. The kid will be one of the best centre halves ever. Even at £25m, he's a bargain and no doubt Ferguson would have loved to have signed him, if he had the money.
Two words. John Terry. QED.How about one word. Scum.
For Everton it is not big deal as away to us or city was looking up the mountain however now it's a big deal for us tomorrow.
What a charming little game between the two most sportsmanlike teams in the Premier League
A real advert for honesty, deceny, fair play and respect for the referee
Dear me, what a depressing advert for the state of the game
Arsenal are a joke. Shambles. Embarrassment. Disgrace.
I think when I wake up tommorow, spend about 30 minutes on the elliptical trainer and deadlift about 300lbs I'm going to feel a bit better. It still feels like a dream that those neanderthals have won something, won't be too bothered by their fans.
Hopefully we can pull off the shock on Wednesday too.
Heard Citeh drew with Fulham at home. Not a good result for the,
No wonder you keep landing all those 8/10's there Pinocchio. The needle on my Chin-O-Meter just broke.
What? I can deadlift 300lb. It's not that much, actually.
Great goal from David Luiz for Chelsea. The kid will be one of the best centre halves ever. Even at £25m, he's a bargain and no doubt Ferguson would have loved to have signed him, if he had the money.
I've not made my mind up about Luiz, he looks quick, strong as an ox but what on earth are all these galloping dribbles from the back about? Indeed, why was he pretty much in the man u six yard box for his goal*.
He looks an awesome athlete but a tactical nightmare for the manager and other players. Was he like that in Portugal?
* my guess us that Luiz and ivanovic occasionally swap positions but...
Arsenal are a joke. Shambles. Embarrassment. Disgrace.
I think when I wake up tommorow, spend about 30 minutes on the elliptical trainer and deadlift about 300lbs I'm going to feel a bit better. It still feels like a dream that those neanderthals have won something, won't be too bothered by their fans.
Hopefully we can pull off the shock on Wednesday too.
Heard Citeh drew with Fulham at home. Not a good result for the,
No wonder you keep landing all those 8/10's there Pinocchio. The needle on my Chin-O-Meter just broke.
Torres was crap again, he looks completely out of sorts. There was one instance when Ramires got to the byeline and he made no effort whatsoever to get in the six yard box. I wonder whats wrong with him.
Torres was crap again, he looks completely out of sorts. There was one instance when Ramires got to the byeline and he made no effort whatsoever to get in the six yard box. I wonder whats wrong with him.
I think he has a thorn in his foot, and is waiting for a passing mouse to offer to extract it
What a charming little game between the two most sportsmanlike teams in the Premier League
A real advert for honesty, deceny, fair play and respect for the referee
Dear me, what a depressing advert for the state of the game
It was a cracking game, both sides really going for it and kicking lumps out of each other.
Great goal from David Luiz for Chelsea. The kid will be one of the best centre halves ever. Even at £25m, he's a bargain and no doubt Ferguson would have loved to have signed him, if he had the money.
MCity will be delighted with the reading win, they see everton as their bogey team
I admire your optimismMCity will be delighted with the reading win, they see everton as their bogey team
Why? They get knocked out tonight.
What a charming little game between the two most sportsmanlike teams in the Premier League
A real advert for honesty, deceny, fair play and respect for the referee
Dear me, what a depressing advert for the state of the game
It was a cracking game, both sides really going for it and kicking lumps out of each other.
Ever thought of becoming a Sky Sports News presenter Chris?
I admire your optimismMCity will be delighted with the reading win, they see everton as their bogey team
Why? They get knocked out tonight.
I just hope the game isn't over inside the first 27 mins this time
What a charming little game between the two most sportsmanlike teams in the Premier League
A real advert for honesty, deceny, fair play and respect for the referee
Dear me, what a depressing advert for the state of the game
It was a cracking game, both sides really going for it and kicking lumps out of each other.
Ever thought of becoming a Sky Sports News presenter Chris?
Considering it was two teams I really can't stand and ideally they would have both lost and picked up loads of injuries I thought Chelsea v Man Utd was a great game.
For those watching the Boggies v Blues match on Virgin - they have the match listed as Live Football League Championship.
A draw really would have been a much better result for us.
A draw really would have been a much better result for us.
Clyde 2-0 down already I see.
Clyde 2-0 down already I see.
Yesssssssssss!
Davies looked rather average today, west brom did well and the rags could be struggling if they play like that every week.Yep. Despite they play the worst football in the league and were at home today I thought they'd still somehow win with an even more flukey goal which was scored in the final. In the back of my mind I was telling myself the players have hardly done any training this weeks and they wouldn't be fully healthy still carrying hangovers.
Bit of a fuck up from the Wigan 'keeper tonight. Jammy win for Citeh.
Having just seen MOTD, I was in awe of how Man City dismantled that powerhouse of European football Wigan. Following on from their devastating performance against another footballing giant in Fulham on Sunday, no wonder some of our fans (and our manager) felt we had no chance there on Weds. It would have been the equivalent of Bromsgrove Rovers playing Brazil '70 at their peak. Phew, we dodge a real bullet there!
Having just seen MOTD, I was in awe of how Man City dismantled that powerhouse of European football Wigan. Following on from their devastating performance against another footballing giant in Fulham on Sunday, no wonder some of our fans (and our manager) felt we had no chance there on Weds. It would have been the equivalent of Bromsgrove Rovers playing Brazil '70 at their peak. Phew, we dodge a real bullet there!
I have to say, I agree entirely with you.
There's no way we could have hoped to beat Manchester City, even if they do have only 14 fit players. In fact, we should all write them a "thank you" card for letting us play there at all.
Clyde 2-0 down already I see.
Yesssssssssss!
3-0 now.
Watched the highlights of the Dog shit game.
Curtis Davies hasn't got any better.
He'd fit right in with us now.
Yes, a jammy win for Man City at home to Wigan, after being held at home by Fulham last week.
Yet Villa apparently don't have a chance.
Man Utd are genuinely not a very good side, them being top is just a reflection of the lack of quality in the league at the moment.
Man Utd are genuinely not a very good side, them being top is just a reflection of the lack of quality in the league at the moment.
I agree. I actually think Arsenal are the most talented side, (going forward at least) but seem to lack a bit of character.
Does anyone think Liverpool will crumble towards the end and let Man United back in it?
Man Utd are genuinely not a very good side, them being top is just a reflection of the lack of quality in the league at the moment.
I agree. I actually think Arsenal are the most talented side, (going forward at least) but seem to lack a bit of character.
Man Utd are genuinely not a very good side, them being top is just a reflection of the lack of quality in the league at the moment.
I agree. I actually think Arsenal are the most talented side, (going forward at least) but seem to lack a bit of character.
Agree totally about the league. Man Utd and Arsenal are but a mere shadow of their two teams who used to fight it out for the league
You have Man City challenging despite hardly playing any decent football all season
And such mediocrity as Bolton and Sunderland challenging for Europe
Worst standard ever in my view..
We let 3 in against Man City and another 3 against Bolton, surely even the most short sighted amongst you have now realised that the changes we made were not the reason we lost.
Another vote for mediocrity. O'Neill dropped a right bollock (for him and us) by bottling it this season.
To a more important match :De La Cruz? Surely no relation to the Ecuadorian Beckham?
VILLA LINE-UP
Barrett; Jenkins, Devine, Williams, Caira; Burke, Nelson-Addy, Johnson, Carruthers; Taylor, Drennan. Subs: De la Cruz, Coton, Robinson, Darkin, Graham.
The boys done good and beat M'boro 3-1 to reach the youth cup semis
To a more important match :De La Cruz? Surely no relation to the Ecuadorian Beckham?
VILLA LINE-UP
Barrett; Jenkins, Devine, Williams, Caira; Burke, Nelson-Addy, Johnson, Carruthers; Taylor, Drennan. Subs: De la Cruz, Coton, Robinson, Darkin, Graham.
The boys done good and beat M'boro 3-1 to reach the youth cup semis
1 - 0 Wolves.......DoyleDeservedly spurzzz don't seem at it
Was also surprised with the stat that Defoe hasn't scored in open play for a year. When did he become so poor?
We were all celebrating that Wolves goal against Spurs (twice) last season. Shows how far we have fallen that we now want/need Spurs to win today. Our priorities are somewhat different this season.
Was also surprised with the stat that Defoe hasn't scored in open play for a year. When did he become so poor?
you were saying...........
1 - 1
Was also surprised with the stat that Defoe hasn't scored in open play for a year. When did he become so poor?
you were saying...........
1 - 1
2 - 1
We were all celebrating that Wolves goal against Spurs (twice) last season. Shows how far we have fallen that we now want/need Spurs to win today. Our priorities are somewhat different this season.
Yeah; they are, let's just get on with it without needlessly discussing how shite and awful we are now.
This is a classic game where all the goals are in the 1st half
This will end 2-2 with a dull second half
Can't help but think, given the way that other clubs can and will fight themselves out of trouble, together with our suicidal defence, the three clubs to go down will be:
Villa
Blackburn
Wigan
This is a classic game where all the goals are in the 1st half
This will end 2-2 with a dull second half
Watching Hutton play RB for Spurs surely they will not sell Walker. I mean who would you pick...in the play ground?As it stands, would you want to leave Spurs for Villa?
Can we really say we're better than Wolves?
Can we really say we're better than Wolves?
Its not nice being in the relagation end of! We needed the fucking yids to beat themCan we really say we're better than Wolves?
We're four points better than them according to the table, so I guess we can in the literal sense. My worry is that lose to them next week, and we're only one point better.
It's not nice being in a relegation six pointer with the Dingles, is it?
Can we really say we're better than Wolves?Man for man were alot better than them, spirit and fight is what they've got in abundance which we just don't have
Can we really say we're better than Wolves?
Nope
Can we really say we're better than Wolves?
Nope
I'd say there is very little between the two sides.
Both quite poor.
i think 3-3
or wolves may sneak it.
but more goals 2nd half.
Great tribute of a game to Dean Richards RIP
Bollocks to the Dingles.
Trouble is, we're always relying on the forward line to weigh in with 3 goals to make a game safe.Bollocks to the Dingles.
Still, it's only a point gained by today's bottom three on us over the weekend.
I think we'll just about scrape it if we retain the confidence to keep playing attacking football like yesterday. Let's face it, if we rely too much on the defence we've probably had it. Couple of 4-3 wins and we should be all right.
Trouble is, we're always relying on the forward line to weigh in with 3 goals to make a game safe.Bollocks to the Dingles.
Still, it's only a point gained by today's bottom three on us over the weekend.
I think we'll just about scrape it if we retain the confidence to keep playing attacking football like yesterday. Let's face it, if we rely too much on the defence we've probably had it. Couple of 4-3 wins and we should be all right.
It's impossible to do that every game.
I honestly think we're going down.
On the plus side, there are a few on here who said that they wouldn't mind Championship football.
I guess.Trouble is, we're always relying on the forward line to weigh in with 3 goals to make a game safe.Bollocks to the Dingles.
Still, it's only a point gained by today's bottom three on us over the weekend.
I think we'll just about scrape it if we retain the confidence to keep playing attacking football like yesterday. Let's face it, if we rely too much on the defence we've probably had it. Couple of 4-3 wins and we should be all right.
It's impossible to do that every game.
I honestly think we're going down.
On the plus side, there are a few on here who said that they wouldn't mind Championship football.
We've had a few games recently when we've only let one in haven't we? Faint praise I know, but still, progress perhaps.
I guess.Trouble is, we're always relying on the forward line to weigh in with 3 goals to make a game safe.Bollocks to the Dingles.
Still, it's only a point gained by today's bottom three on us over the weekend.
I think we'll just about scrape it if we retain the confidence to keep playing attacking football like yesterday. Let's face it, if we rely too much on the defence we've probably had it. Couple of 4-3 wins and we should be all right.
It's impossible to do that every game.
I honestly think we're going down.
On the plus side, there are a few on here who said that they wouldn't mind Championship football.
We've had a few games recently when we've only let one in haven't we? Faint praise I know, but still, progress perhaps.
But we have less clean sheets than a Gillott Road prostitute.
We need more of the Man City type shut outs when we take the lead.
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?I'm popping over there tonight, with knife, to clean it up (FILTHY HARLOT STRUMPETS PARADING THEIR WANTON FLESH).
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
We have a horrid last 2 games so we need the points fast or we are fucked
Wolves is a must win now
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
Off Icknield Port Road. I was driving up there one night because of my base animal urges, and some young lady was standing on the corner, holding an umbrella. She looked like Rhianna, she was so damn fine and inexpensive.
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
Off Icknield Port Road. I was driving up there one night BECAUSE OF A DIVERSION, NO OTHER REASON, and some young lady was standing on the corner, holding an umbrella. Well, it was raining.
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
Off Icknield Port Road. I was driving up there one night BECAUSE OF A DIVERSION, NO OTHER REASON, and some young lady was standing on the corner, holding an umbrella. Well, it was raining.
My best mate at university was from Cornwall, and quite wet behind the ears when it came to big city life.
His first job after graduating was up here, working for Toys R Us as a manager. He got himself a flat on Gillott Road before asking me about the area, and was most bemused to find prostitutes hanging around outside his front door most nights. Apparently you don't get much of that kind of thing in Truro.
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?I'm popping over there tonight, with knife, to clean it up (FILTHY HARLOT STRUMPETS PARADING THEIR WANTON FLESH).
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
I'll pick you up on the way
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?I'm popping over there tonight, with knife, to clean it up (FILTHY HARLOT STRUMPETS PARADING THEIR WANTON FLESH).
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
I'll pick you up on the way
Ok good, is there a cash point? I need to... er... buy a knife. Yes, that's it, a bloody big expensive knife. I think I'll have to draw about £80 out.
My best mate at university was from Cornwall, and quite wet behind the ears when it came to big city life.
His first job after graduating was up here, working for Toys R Us as a manager. He got himself a flat on Gillott Road before asking me about the area, and was most bemused to find prostitutes hanging around outside his front door most nights. Apparently you don't get much of that kind of thing in Truro.
My best mate at university was from Cornwall, and quite wet behind the ears when it came to big city life.
His first job after graduating was up here, working for Toys R Us as a manager. He got himself a flat on Gillott Road before asking me about the area, and was most bemused to find prostitutes hanging around outside his front door most nights. Apparently you don't get much of that kind of thing in Truro.
Is that still the scene on Gillott Road? A friend was asking not me I don't need to know....no not at all
I thought they'd been drive out of that area, and indeed Birmingham.
I made the textbook mistake of pulling over to answer the phone in Gillott Road.
It was mid afternoon, broad daylight but it didn't stop one of the "toms" approaching my car dreaming of the next fix.
If you loook at the run-in, everyone now has nine or ten games to go. Of the current top six (I include Liverpool as they seem to be more like their old selves now), we have to play two (Arsenal and Liverpool, last two games of the season so lets hope survival is all tied up by then). Of the other bottom ten, from the bottom upwards, it looks like this:
Wigan have to play two of them, Wolves have played all the top six twice already, Blues have to play two, West Ham four, WBA have four, Blackpool have four, Blackburn have three, Stoke have four, Fulham have three. The rest mostly appear to be dogfights between similarly threatened teams, all taking points off each other.
So if our home form at least can stand up against Wolves, Stoke, Newcastle and Wigan, we'll have ourselves to blame if we are still threatened come the last two Saturdays.
I know this is completely meaningless speculation, but just a bit of idle fun while the wifes at the gym and the dinners on.
One can never tell how it will all pan out. Seen too many of these scenarios to ever predict it!
Agree Richard. Hence my covering point about it all being meaningless speculation, but after all, what is 99% of punditry if it's not 99% meaningless speculation?
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
Off Icknield Port Road. I was driving up there one night BECAUSE OF A DIVERSION, NO OTHER REASON, and some young lady was standing on the corner, holding an umbrella. Well, it was raining.
Is that the Bricklayer's Arms by Fulham?
Nice pub if it is. Hoping that we both stay up so I can go there again.
Blackpool missing half their team tonight, come on Chelsea (this is how low we've sunk)Did alright against us
If 'somebody' wasn't banned, he'd be asking "Where's Gillott Road"?
Where is it by the way, I'm doing some 'research'?
Off Icknield Port Road. I was driving up there one night BECAUSE OF A DIVERSION, NO OTHER REASON, and some young lady was standing on the corner, holding an umbrella. Well, it was raining.
I used to live on Gillott Road when I was at drama school. My local was the Bricklayers Arms. My Sunday phonecall home from the callboxes was often interrupted by prostitutes needing their "office" phone.
Blackpool missing half their team tonight, come on Chelsea (this is how low we've sunk)Did alright against us
Steve Van Claren is talking in a very odd way.
No, something about prostitutes.Cheddar Road if you don't mind! That was the nearest thing to Amsterdam in Birmingham.
Gillott Road??
Is this like Cheddar Lane?
OSteve Van Claren is talking in a very odd way.
Glad it isn't just me who thought that. Thought I might have been imagining it.
Steve Van Claren is talking in a very odd way.oh I shee ish Schteeve a schtudio exchpert tonight?
Who is the co-commentator? The one who just said that Droghba must be injured as he is not one to stay down? The shock is that he is injured.
A really humiliating, confidence-destroying drubbing please.
OSteve Van Claren is talking in a very odd way.
Glad it isn't just me who thought that. Thought I might have been imagining it.
Please stop Chris, I'm not well
The Arse will win. Whichever result is most likely to piss me off will happen.
Just got tickets for me and VCTM jnr for tomorrow night - c`mon Everton ;)
Just got tickets for me and VCTM jnr for tomorrow night - c`mon Everton ;)
Cheering on Barcelona never feels right after the Super Cup in 82!
Cheering on Barcelona never feels right after the Super Cup in 82!
1983 No ?
I support Villa, and Barça.I don't know, I'm just enjoying the use of the world 'syllogism'.
Arsenal are one step away from accomplishing the most horrifying syllogism the footballing world has ever seen:
BCFC beat Arsenal in the League Cup Final;
Arsenal beat Barça in the Champions;
The conclusion is chilling, isn't it?
Against Guzan! :(
Apart from Fulham the other year...
Just got tickets for me and VCTM jnr for tomorrow night - c`mon Everton ;)
How much out of interest ?
We played on Saturday and lost four nil. This is one of many thousands of rearranged games as a result of Cumbernauld being twinned with the North Pole.
Edit: one all. Bugger.
Tamworth losing to Nasty Luton. Oh, and Guzan's back at Villa.He appears to be in goal for Hull City tonight. Did nobody tell them?
I support Villa, and Barça.
Arsenal are one step away from accomplishing the most horrifying syllogism ...
Tamworth losing to Nasty Luton. Oh, and Guzan's back at Villa.
Oh look, we've scored! (I was cooking)
Why so much injury time?
Not watching the game as I'm on the bus on the way home. Would love to see Fabregas score an og tonight. He would be slaughtered. Can't stand him. Come on BarcaWell he set Barca's first goal up with a little backheel on the edge of his own box.
I support Villa, and Barça.I don't know, I'm just enjoying the use of the world 'syllogism'.
Arsenal are one step away from accomplishing the most horrifying syllogism the footballing world has ever seen:
BCFC beat Arsenal in the League Cup Final;
Arsenal beat Barça in the Champions;
The conclusion is chilling, isn't it?
Good work.
Kicking the ball away is a yellow though, no?
Kicking the ball away is a yellow though, no?
Barca are trying to walk it in again although some good last ditch defending from Arse as well.
Barca are trying to walk it in again although some good last ditch defending from Arse as well.
As fantastic as Barcelona are, and I know it seems to work for them, but it is annoying to watch at times. I find myself just screaming at the TV for one of them to put their foot through the ball instead of looking for that one final pass.
Barca are trying to walk it in again although some good last ditch defending from Arse as well.
As fantastic as Barcelona are, and I know it seems to work for them, but it is annoying to watch at times. I find myself just screaming at the TV for one of them to put their foot through the ball instead of looking for that one final pass.
Can see your point but when the result is goals like their second tonight you have to say it's worth it, pure brilliance.
I hope Ashley was watching that penalty then.
3-1 Messi
Wenger needs to get a unfit Fabregas off and put Bentdner onThe Ref helped him with 1 unfit player now he can do the other himself!
Going to go out on a limb here as I have with my mates for years, Xavi is the best player in this team by a margin, Messi is spectacular and gets all the attention but Xavi is their heartbeat, brilliant player at best, great player at worst, guarantees an 8 out of 10 every time he puts on the shirt and regularly gives 9s and 10s as well.
Going to go out on a limb here as I have with my mates for years, Xavi is the best player in this team by a margin, Messi is spectacular and gets all the attention but Xavi is their heartbeat, brilliant player at best, great player at worst, guarantees an 8 out of 10 every time he puts on the shirt and regularly gives 9s and 10s as well.
I agree......In my opinion Xavi is the best player in the world
I'm no fan of Arsenal, but that decision is at best a disgrace, at worst bent.Again you seem to be criticising the ref for applying the laws just because it took the competition out of the game.
Except he's not really, is he?I'm no fan of Arsenal, but that decision is at best a disgrace, at worst bent.Again you seem to be criticising the ref for applying the laws just because it took the competition out of the game.
That is rubbish im afraid.......there was one second between the ref blowing the whistle and Van Persie kicking the ball and how is Van Persie supposed to hear with 90,000 people screaming also.......I'm no fan of Arsenal, but that decision is at best a disgrace, at worst bent.Again you seem to be criticising the ref for applying the laws just because it took the competition out of the game.
I hate supporting Barca so frustrating!!
They only scored 3, they let 1 in, shit. Messi only scored 2 aswell, he's crap.I hate supporting Barca so frustrating!!
Fuck, yeah, must be awful.
Who have Arse got this weekend? I would bet they lose this weekend the amount of energy they have used this second half.
the Arse have been robbed of a small chance of lifting a certain cupRobbed how?
that we have won
the ref is now choosing his gratis villa in Catalunya
Except he's not really, is he?I'm no fan of Arsenal, but that decision is at best a disgrace, at worst bent.Again you seem to be criticising the ref for applying the laws just because it took the competition out of the game.
He quite clearly wasn't trying to waste time. Any sensible referee would have given him the benefit of the doubt in that situation.
Imagine if we ever played these lot? (christ knows how or why we'd be playing them but still) We wouldn't touch the ball.
I can see Wenger making wholesale changes for that one, those that played tonight will still be knackered come the weekend. It takes it out of you chasing the ball for 90 minutes.Who have Arse got this weekend? I would bet they lose this weekend the amount of energy they have used this second half.
Man United away. FAC QF.
This will be the end of Wenger
the Arse have been robbed of a small chance of lifting a certain cupRobbed how?
that we have won
the ref is now choosing his gratis villa in Catalunya
Daft sending off decision but the right team won. And would have won regardless of what had happened with the red card.
Even so, unless you're completely sure then you don't just send a player off. And in that sort of atmosphere it would be impossible to be completely sure.Except he's not really, is he?I'm no fan of Arsenal, but that decision is at best a disgrace, at worst bent.Again you seem to be criticising the ref for applying the laws just because it took the competition out of the game.
He quite clearly wasn't trying to waste time. Any sensible referee would have given him the benefit of the doubt in that situation.
We'll never know but I'm pretty sure RVP heard the whistle.
Going to go out on a limb here as I have with my mates for years, Xavi is the best player in this team by a margin, Messi is spectacular and gets all the attention but Xavi is their heartbeat, brilliant player at best, great player at worst, guarantees an 8 out of 10 every time he puts on the shirt and regularly gives 9s and 10s as well.
Wengers a c**t anyway , fook him
Van Persies a c**t anyway.. fook him...
Wengers a c**t anyway , fook himVan Persies a c**t anyway.. fook him...
What about Fabregas?
Beeb going into overdrive -
Arsenal striker Robin van Persie on being shown a second yellow card for shooting after the referee had blown his whistle: "It had a big influence on the outcome - at 1-1 it was all to play for - and it was a total joke because how can I hear his whistle with 95,000 people jumping up? There was only one second from his whistle to my shot and it is a joke. I explained it to him but he was been bad all evening."
Watching the Shakter- Roma highlights and I see Howard Webb has taken on board the English ruling that an elbow to the face is nothing these days
Watching the Shakter- Roma highlights and I see Howard Webb has taken on board the English ruling that an elbow to the face is nothing these days
Barcelona are a bit special aren't they, I have to say I enjoyed watching them play and they made the arse look v.ordinary, ha!
Barcelona are a bit special aren't they, I have to say I enjoyed watching them play and they made the arse look v.ordinary, ha!
Less than ordinary
And so the week arrives, right on cue, where Arsenal's season implodes and they blame everybody but themselves
And so the week arrives, right on cue, where Arsenal's season implodes and they blame everybody but themselves
And so the week arrives, right on cue, where Arsenal's season implodes and they blame everybody but themselves
Oh, and what was that absolute bollocks from the pundits at the end about how Wilshere could easily play in that Barcelona side, which was then backed up with about two clips of him using his physical ability.
At one point in the second half, I noted how strange it felt to see the camera focusing on the Barcelona half of the pitch, as it had been pretty much entirely happening in the Arsenal half of the pitch.
Wenger can moan all he likes, but I'm not entirely sure Arsenal would have won that if they'd had 15 men on the pitch, let alone 11.
Oh, and what was that absolute bollocks from the pundits at the end about how Wilshere could easily play in that Barcelona side, which was then backed up with about two clips of him using his physical ability.
Oh, and what was that absolute bollocks from the pundits at the end about how Wilshere could easily play in that Barcelona side, which was then backed up with about two clips of him using his physical ability.
Exactly what I thought - he may look like he's going to be a decent player (to be honest I've not seen anything that makes me think he deserves that hype) but there is no way he is good enough to get into the Barcelona midfield.
Oh, and what was that absolute bollocks from the pundits at the end about how Wilshere could easily play in that Barcelona side, which was then backed up with about two clips of him using his physical ability.
Couldn't quite believe I was hearing that, it's almost as if they are trying to find an English player to compare to the best in the world now Rooney is showing he isn't even the best player in a very poor Man Utd team never mind being amongst the best in the world. Wilshere shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Xavi and Iniesta.
Oh, and what was that absolute bollocks from the pundits at the end about how Wilshere could easily play in that Barcelona side, which was then backed up with about two clips of him using his physical ability.
Exactly what I thought - he may look like he's going to be a decent player (to be honest I've not seen anything that makes me think he deserves that hype) but there is no way he is good enough to get into the Barcelona midfield.
Watching the Shakter- Roma highlights and I see Howard Webb has taken on board the English ruling that an elbow to the face is nothing these days
I must admit that arsenal are a guilty pleasure for me but Barca are different gravy.
Not stopping to think about the fact that, maybe, Wilsheres "never stops running" thing might not be of much interest for Barca, as they don't chase anything
Come on the Toffees!
Come on the Toffees!
I always find that it sours the taste somewhat.
I'm still laughing at my own joke. What a prick!
SAME OLD STORY
They marvelled at the sharks in the local aquarium, wondered what all the fuss was about upon seeing the Sagrada Familia, and then Arsene Wenger's excited pupils gorged on toffee and fizzy pop before their kindly old professor took them on the highlight of their trip: a tour of the world-famous Camp Nou stadium! On a match night and all! "Ha! Those riff-raff from Tottenham High are going to be so jealous when they hear about this!" chortled the kids triumphantly. But once they got to the legendary ground the din of 95,000 boisterous locals rather unsettled them, and those 11 strange blue-and-claret insects that flitted around them all night were downright scary and, actually sir, can we go home now please? And so the young Gunners' adventure ended in tears - again.
So what do you do with a teacher who never learns? Yet again Wenger failed to prevent his players bottling it on the big stage. And for the second successive year he goofed by bowing to sentiment and allowing Cesc Fabregas to play when not fully fit. Throw in the facts that his cherished young goalkeeper toddled off after knacking himself in the most pathetic manner since Rob Green fell over a ball and missed out on the 2006 World Cup (but not, alas, the 2010 World Cup), the lack of cover for the absent Alex Song was more exposed than a shorn sheep on Page 3 of Ewe Stunnah magazine and Nicklas Bendtner offered yet more compelling evidence that he will never be as great as he thinks he is (then again, even Leo Messi may never be as great as Bendtner thinks Bendtner is) and last night amounted to a damning failure of the Wenger project. He needs to make adjustments. Continue to refuse to do so and he risks being called not merely stubborn but insane, if the definition of insanity is repeatedly doing the same thing yet expecting different outcomes.
And yet, of course, what may fuel Wenger's craziness, or at least his frustration, is the knowledge that last night could have been different. Barcelona almost completely dominated both legs from start to finish and yet still came within a trademark Bendtner-up of being knocked out. If Robin van Persie had not been sent off by a referee who if he were a judge would send jay-walkers to the guillotine, he would surely have converted the chance that Bendtner contrived to miss. Nevermind that Barca, whose footballing exhibition included an entire wing dedicated to freakishly bad finishing, squandered several far easier chances and were denied a certain penalty, just as they had a good goal chalked off in the first leg, Wenger was given a scrawny straw to cling desperately to.
So desperately cling to it he did. His protestations to the inept referee were such that he, along with Samir Nasri, has today been charged with improper conduct by Uefa. The charge relates to comments reported by the referee Uefa has yet to decide whether to react to comments made in the media, such as Van Persie branding the referee "a joke" and Wenger pointedly harrumhping that "it's not a surprise the referee didn't book a single Barcelona player". Maybe Uefa wasn't paying attention.
The more pertinent question is: was Wenger paying attention to the most important post-match comment, which, fittingly, came from Pep Guardiola, who declared: "They didn't string three passes together. If they believe they lost because of [Robin] Van Persie's sending-off they won't go very far and will always remain on the outside looking in."
Same old thing with Wenger.
He and his back room stuff are geniuses at finding bargain basement talent and coaching brilliant free flowing football.
Where it all falls down is his reluctance to splash out on experience, he's said many times that he doesn't want to pay big transfer fees, but it's been obvious for some time that they've lacked a commanding centre half and keeper.
He's also a biased, one eyed bastard, but I still like him.
The other 3,000,000 are still trying to find Sherlock Street.
I didn't realise the Spuds match was on ITV. I fucking hate and refuse to watch the ITV coverage, so I'm watching the Schalke v Valencia match instead.
Fuck me that's Kevin Prince Boateng playing for AC Milan! I didn't realise he had gone there. Wasn't he at Pompey on loan from Spurs when we were heavily linked with him?
Fuck me that's Kevin Prince Boateng playing for AC Milan! I didn't realise he had gone there. Wasn't he at Pompey on loan from Spurs when we were heavily linked with him?
Fuck me that's Kevin Prince Boateng playing for AC Milan! I didn't realise he had gone there. Wasn't he at Pompey on loan from Spurs when we were heavily linked with him?
He signed for Pompey permanently.
I still hate the useless twat for missing that penalty in the FA Cup Final when I had bets on him for first scorer and Pompey to win.
I didn't realise the Spuds match was on ITV. I fucking hate and refuse to watch the ITV coverage, so I'm watching the Schalke v Valencia match instead.
Yeah Genoa signed him for €6m then loaned him out to AC Milan straight away hoping to make a profit on him at the end of the season, an interesting transfer policyFuck me that's Kevin Prince Boateng playing for AC Milan! I didn't realise he had gone there. Wasn't he at Pompey on loan from Spurs when we were heavily linked with him?
I think he is actually at Genoa they bought him and then loaned him straight out to Milan, all very strange.
Everton 1-1
Fastistic goal against the Rags. Saying that, aren't they all.
Fuck what is good for us re the draw, we need teams below us to lose. Everton will stay up whatever as Moyes will get them to scrape a couple of results so are not in the equation. Stoke and Blues and the like are. Want them battered.100% correct
Fuck what is good for us re the draw, we need teams below us to lose. Everton will stay up whatever as Moyes will get them to scrape a couple of results so are not in the equation. Stoke and Blues and the like are. Want them battered.
10.6KM for Crouch tonight is very good effort.
I refuse to buy a paper or listen to the radio for the next few days if spuds go through such will be the media love-in.Agreed. I actually had to turn the TV off as soon as the final whistle blew, in the same way I did when the final whistle blew at some game at Wembley the other day.
1-1 FT
The Champions League has declined almost as much as the Premier League - Barca excepted of course
Never thought I would see an AC Milan team with the likes of Boateng, Flamini and Robinho in it
Just back from Goodison - Poor game. Small Heath defended well - poor away support but the home support was dreadful. Wasted 90 mins of my life and £47 . Hopefully the trip in 3 or 4 weeks time is more enjoyable.
a fortnight ago, Everton were in the same mess as us. They have taken 7 points out of nine and are virtually safe. That's it, just three games has almost guaranteed them premiership safety. We need to follow their example.Normally i'd agree, but their defence is superior to ours.
a fortnight ago, Everton were in the same mess as us. They have taken 7 points out of nine and are virtually safe. That's it, just three games has almost guaranteed them premiership safety. We need to follow their example.Normally i'd agree, but their defence is superior to ours.
why did that ITV commentator mention Gareth Bale 19,000 times before he even came on . are they lovers ? and he did fook all when he eventually came on , thou the commentator still had a raging hard on thinking about him.
How come Blose always play teams when they are missing their most important players...
why did that ITV commentator mention Gareth Bale 19,000 times before he even came on . are they lovers ? and he did fook all when he eventually came on , thou the commentator still had a raging hard on thinking about him.
Milner injured?Yes
why did that ITV commentator mention Gareth Bale 19,000 times before he even came on . are they lovers ? and he did fook all when he eventually came on , thou the commentator still had a raging hard on thinking about him.
Fabio Capello thinks he's the best player in the world apparently, or so that commentator kept saying. Perhaps he was taking the piss.
I hope Spurs get Barca, old Harry would try and play 'the spurs way' and go for it and they'd get ripped apart.
Just back from Goodison - Poor game. Small Heath defended well - poor away support but the home support was dreadful. Wasted 90 mins of my life and £47 . Hopefully the trip in 3 or 4 weeks time is more enjoyable.
£47? Was that for you and Cam mate?
I hope Spurs get Barca, old Harry would try and play 'the spurs way' and go for it and they'd get ripped apart.
I could see Spurs beating Barca over the two legs. Mainly because they will keep it tidier at the back then Arsenal do and the Barca defenders would not be able to deal with the long balls to Crouch all night. But it will only work if they have three times the amount of luck that they had in the two legs against Milan.
Im thinking of going to cheer Bolton on tomorrowStanding with the knuckledraggers ? What if they win ? I'd stay at home if I were you
Is this wrong ?
Not worth a new thread but I thought this was a fantastic stat:
811 - @rioferdy5 has committed a foul less often than any other outfield player in the last two seasons, one every 811 minutes. Poised.
Im thinking of going to cheer Bolton on tomorrow
Is this wrong ?
C'mon Bolton, it's up to you to give me a decent football birthday present today!
OffsideC'mon Bolton, it's up to you to give me a decent football birthday present today!
Happy birthday. ;)
I always thought that Curtis Davies would be a fantastic defender for us, and it's being proven correct.
C'mon Bolton, it's up to you to give me a decent football birthday present today!
Happy birthday. ;)
Are there many there?
Out of interest, what is the point in this mid-season break that we appear to be having? We have no game today and in fact play just once in a month and yet we've had to play midweek games this season that could've been played in March. Seems odd. I know we could have been in the FAC today but only 8 clubs are involved in the QF so why the break? We have another one in 2 weeks too. Why?
Out of interest, what is the point in this mid-season break that we appear to be having? We have no game today and in fact play just once in a month and yet we've had to play midweek games this season that could've been played in March. Seems odd. I know we could have been in the FAC today but only 8 clubs are involved in the QF so why the break? We have another one in 2 weeks too. Why?
h the FA - not wanting any games on FA Cup weekend so that it gets priority over that weekend.
Out of interest, what is the point in this mid-season break that we appear to be having? We have no game today and in fact play just once in a month and yet we've had to play midweek games this season that could've been played in March. Seems odd. I know we could have been in the FAC today but only 8 clubs are involved in the QF so why the break? We have another one in 2 weeks too. Why?
h the FA - not wanting any games on FA Cup weekend so that it gets priority over that weekend.
The final is on the penultimate weekend of the Premier League season.
Whereas we like to throw leads away, some teams are able to come back from losing positions and win.
is there any sweeter way for the rags to lose than to a last minute goal !!
have faith Paulineis there any sweeter way for the rags to lose than to a last minute goal !!
They haven't lost yet
have faith Paulineis there any sweeter way for the rags to lose than to a last minute goal !!
They haven't lost yet
I was hoping for a replay, just to tire that mob out and make staying up more difficult. Never mind.
I was hoping for a replay, just to tire that mob out and make staying up more difficult. Never mind.
I was but you cant beat a last minute loser in the cup ...
Out of interest, what is the point in this mid-season break that we appear to be having? We have no game today and in fact play just once in a month and yet we've had to play midweek games this season that could've been played in March. Seems odd. I know we could have been in the FAC today but only 8 clubs are involved in the QF so why the break? We have another one in 2 weeks too. Why?
h the FA - not wanting any games on FA Cup weekend so that it gets priority over that weekend.
The final is on the penultimate weekend of the Premier League season.
I'm glad they're out, but it sounded an exciting game and I do admire their commitment to the competition - so unlike our approach against Man City.
I'm glad they're out, but it sounded an exciting game and I do admire their commitment to the competition - so unlike our approach against Man City.Spot on.
Let's hope they get relegated now. And go bust
That is a shocking crowd. How many teams would attract such a crap crowd at home with a chance of an FA Cup wembley appearance?Only the one springs to mind.....
Insightful commentary - "twins Fabio and Rafael - born within minutes of each other"As awesome as the camera work after the goal.
Insightful commentary - "twins Fabio and Rafael - born within minutes of each other"As awesome as the camera work after the goal.
Arsenals season over
Theres not a chance that they'll win the league, bloody bottlersArsenals season over
Well not really, they are 2nd in the league and just a few points off top. Hopefully they'll fuck that up too.
I hope it's not an all Manchester final.
I hope misery and misfortune rains on Arsenal like the Devil's piss for their pathetic display at Wembley the other week. Let them suffer.
Ref bottled sending off a Manure player again.Exactly. Every f'cking time it really annoys me. What does Scholes have to do to get sent off? Any other team and thats a second yellow.
I was mildly amused by the two players opening the scoring for Watford.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/results/default.stm
Piquionne practicarly caught thatHow many times have they replayed that goal, and they still are 100% sure where the ball hit him.
Great assist Tommy HWonder if he's got a cockney twang to his Brummie-German accent yet!
Great assist Tommy HWonder if he's got a cockney twang to his Brummie-German accent yet!
The commentator said Birmingham City are through to the semi finals.
The commentator said Birmingham City are through to the semi finals.
The commentator said Birmingham City are through to the semi finals.
That draw means that only 5th in the Prem will qualify for Europe and that the winner of Bolton v Stoke will be guaranteed a Euro spot.
That draw means that only 5th in the Prem will qualify for Europe and that the winner of Bolton v Stoke will be guaranteed a Euro spot.
I wish I thought we'd be affected by that.
That draw means that only 5th in the Prem will qualify for Europe and that the winner of Bolton v Stoke will be guaranteed a Euro spot.
I wish I thought we'd be affected by that.
No but Liverpool will be, they now have to win the Europa League or they will not be in Europe next season. There is asmall crumb of comfort in knowing that.
That draw means that only 5th in the Prem will qualify for Europe and that the winner of Bolton v Stoke will be guaranteed a Euro spot.
I wish I thought we'd be affected by that.
No but Liverpool will be, they now have to win the Europa League or they will not be in Europe next season. There is asmall crumb of comfort in knowing that.
Reading standing up to Man City, instead of pussying out and playing dead.
If Man City finish fifth and win the FA Cup, sixth place will still be good enough to get a place in Europe.
That draw means that only 5th in the Prem will qualify for Europe and that the winner of Bolton v Stoke will be guaranteed a Euro spot.
With Stoke's style of play, Twickenham would be a suitable venue.They will have a problem with their throws in the line out!
It is an absolute disgrace that the LOSERS of the FA Cup final get a place in Europe having won just 5 games to get there instead of the team who have, over 38 Premier League matches against Premier League teams, proven to be the 6th best side in the league.
Stoke may be in Europe after winning the following fixtures:
Cardiff City H (Which they drew and needed a replay)
Wolves A
Brighton H
West Ham H
Bolton (Wembley)
Now, does winning that little lot deserve to represent England in Europe? Does it bol"£$KS!
Ged was right about Man City, presently threatening to take mighty Reading to a replay. Maybe it was Reading he was worried about?Was trying to avoid this discussion as it is painful but yes may be had a point we might have ended up playing 3 matches in March.... >:(
Lets not speak of the FA Cup decision again.
Every time I think of it a solitary tear runs down my cheek.
Ged was right about Man City, presently threatening to take mighty Reading to a replay. Maybe it was Reading he was worried about?
Lets not speak of the FA Cup decision again.
Every time I think of it a solitary tear runs down my cheek.
I look out of a window at a bleak and desolate landscape, where children sob
Lets not speak of the FA Cup decision again.
Every time I think of it a solitary tear runs down my cheek.
I look out of a window at a bleak and desolate landscape, where children sob
I didn't know you worked with me?
Come on Man City!!!
I've got £5 on Bolton, Man Utd, Stoke and Man City at 15/1.
Houiller's line up against Man City is one thing i don't think i'll ever be able to get my head round. Even though it should'nt, it will probably annoy me for a very long time.
If Houllier had picked a similar side of Fergie yesterday, he would have been castigated had it gone wrong. Managers make some odd choices, some come off, some don't, that is life. It is weeks ago now, and the world has not ended for Villa, there are many more important things to be getting upset about that that game still. Much more.
If Houllier had picked a similar side of Fergie yesterday, he would have been castigated had it gone wrong. Managers make some odd choices, some come off, some don't, that is life. It is weeks ago now, and the world has not ended for Villa, there are many more important things to be getting upset about that that game still. Much more.
If Houllier had picked a similar side of Fergie yesterday, he would have been castigated had it gone wrong. Managers make some odd choices, some come off, some don't, that is life. It is weeks ago now, and the world has not ended for Villa, there are many more important things to be getting upset about that that game still. Much more.
Why do Marseille keep kicking it to Man U? Butch Wilkins' prediction that Lucio would be the main threat has been proven a load of bollocks. He is the worst player I have ever seen.
Funny how the Man United support no longer do their 'Argentina' chant these days.
Bloody hell, what are Copenhagen wearing?
That pink shirt was hideous, I hope we never go down that road.
There are few more uninspiring ways to spend an evening in front of the telly than watching Chelsea play in the Champions League.
Copenhagen, what was the point?To show the pink jerseys to the rest of the world?
There are few more uninspiring ways to spend an evening in front of the telly than watching Chelsea play in the Champions League.
Agree, what a boring heap of shite
If that's what CL is all about then I'd rather not
Copenhagen, what was the point ?
Balotelli sent off for Man City.
Balotelli sent off for Man City.
Fifteen starts, eight yellows and two reds. The man is a total mentalist.
Just watching Spartak Moscow v Ajax on ITV4 and the Ajax goalkeeper named Verhoeven is the porkiest player i've ever seen, makes Dunne look like Bannan
That pink shirt was hideous, I hope we never go down that road.
There are few more uninspiring ways to spend an evening in front of the telly than watching Chelsea play in the Champions League.
Re. the Spartak-Ajax game. 3-0 down but how good technically do all the Ajax players look....I wish we had some of that with some of ours....Indeed, and over the two legs they've been the better team strangely
The Channel Five commentators really do want to make sweet man love all night long to Andy Carroll, don't they?I turned over after 5 minutes cus got fed up of hearing his fucking name, stuck the Rangers game on instead and its weird seeing Bouma in a different jersey
I turned over after 5 minutes cus got fed up of hearing his fucking name, stuck the Rangers game on instead and its weird seeing Bouma in a different jersey
Balotelli sent off for Man City.
Fifteen starts, eight yellows and two reds. The man is a total mentalist.
Life is never dull with him around
Balotelli sent off for Man City.
Fifteen starts, eight yellows and two reds. The man is a total mentalist.
Life is never dull with him around
Especially when he is trying to put a bib on -
They both got knocked out? Fantastic.And Rangers too. Whoohoo!!!
It was nice to see Liverpool playing the traditional Liverpool way and not looking for a big target man. I'm sure the sacked Hodgson would have been very proud to see Liverpool going back to their roots.
Evesham does have a station. With an extremely boring station master. And very slow dirty trains.
Paddington. Takes nearly 2 and a half hours when you include all the unexplained stops in the dark in the middle of nowhere. Maybe I caught Evesham on a bad day but it hit 9.0 on the dreary scale
The quarter final tie I'm most looking forward to is Barcelona/Shaktar.
A semi of Barcelona and Madrid is a brilliant thought though.
It depends whether Shak attack
It depends whether Shak attackDepends on if they bother to shut their eyes.
Everton 2-1 up.Puts them 8th in the table as it stands.That so could have been us with our run in had we a competent manager Were not going to get a thing there in two weeks
Everton 2-1 up.Puts them 8th in the table as it stands.That so could have been us with our run in had we a competent manager Were not going to get a thing there in two weeks
No game for two weeks? What an excellent time to get a new manager.
Everton 2-1 up.Puts them 8th in the table as it stands.That so could have been us with our run in had we a competent manager Were not going to get a thing there in two weeks
No game for two weeks? What an excellent time to get a new manager.
liverpool get a pen from an offense outside the box... yesterday, we dont for one in the box...Be careful when you go for a walk...............
ever get the feeling that the whole season is conspiring against us?
im not paranoid, everyone IS out to get me...
Chesea 1 - 0 Man City have been piss poor- so negative.Poor game from Jimmy today on the wing, subbed again
Torres seems to be a disastrous signing. Chelsea only started playing once Drogba replaced him.
Torres seems to be a disastrous signing. Chelsea only started playing once Drogba replaced him.
MOTD have just said that in his 5 starts for Chelsea he's managed 1 shot on target. I reckon I could probably manage that in 5 starts for Chelsea, and i'd have cost a few quid less.
He's been no good for ages. There's no possible way he will ever come good now. He definitely WON'T score a hat-trick against Small Heath.
He's been no good for ages. There's no possible way he will ever come good now. He definitely WON'T score a hat-trick against Small Heath.
I like what you're trying to do here! Yeah that Torres is utter pants.
He's been no good for ages. There's no possible way he will ever come good now. He definitely WON'T score a hat-trick against Small Heath.
I like what you're trying to do here! Yeah that Torres is utter pants.
Yep, he's utter wank, no WAY will he score against them, not a chance.
Unless the niggly injuries have caught up with him already I'd expect Torres to click into action soon. He's too good not to.
Spain losing 1-0 at home to the Czech Republic. Brilliant strike it was aswell
Spain losing 1-0 at home to the Czech Republic. Brilliant strike it was aswell
I'm going to assume it wasn't Milan Baros?
I'm having a tenner on Young getting booked for thumping the pitch with his fists.
Tammurf still not mathematically safe after a great start to the season. They'll be alright though, I reckon.
Tammurf still not mathematically safe after a great start to the season. They'll be alright though, I reckon.
I don't, can't get a result from anywhere at the moment, morale is rock-bottom, fans fighting between themselves as they are split on who's to blame, rumours of the manager having 'lost' the dressing room, no money....remind you of any other club at all?
Hart
Johnson - Dawson - Terry - Cole
Wilshere - Lampard - Parker
Ash - Bent - Rooney
May I respectfully remind you that in the nine Villa games I have seen this season we have won eight and drew one (Man Utd).
My record at Tamworth is not as good mind!
I have seen one, won one at Tamworth. I'll go to the Lamb for the rest of the season, you go to Villa Park. Deal?
Good luck to any that play out of Bent, Young, Downing, Walker, Collins, Dunne, Clark, Petrov.Do this lot play for a Club team that is in danger of relegation? Amazing!
DON'T GET FUCKING INJURED.
Grimsby 2-2 Tamworth
How the fuck have we done that?
Let's hope Collins doesn't crock bent or ash or that will really put us in the shit.
Collins all over Ashley, ha.
More evidence that Young should be on the wing.
Why couldn't they do that more for Villa Obvious to me they want to play for Capellonot Houllier!
One more and I'm off to watch the end of the cricket for my sins.
Why don't they do that for us ?
Great contribution so far from 3 villa players, including the hapless James Collins keeping up club form for his country, giving a clumsy penalty away, and then seen strolling several yards behind Bent as he thumped the ball in the back of the net. What a clueless twat the bloke is, i think i'd keep Herd in at CB next time out.
Great contribution so far from 3 villa players, including the hapless James Collins keeping up club form for his country, giving a clumsy penalty away, and then seen strolling several yards behind Bent as he thumped the ball in the back of the net. What a clueless twat the bloke is, i think i'd keep Herd in at CB next time out.
Dunne should be back. Is Clark banned for one or two games?
Great contribution so far from 3 villa players, including the hapless James Collins keeping up club form for his country, giving a clumsy penalty away, and then seen strolling several yards behind Bent as he thumped the ball in the back of the net. What a clueless twat the bloke is, i think i'd keep Herd in at CB next time out.
Dunne should be back. Is Clark banned for one or two games?
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
Or being played in his rightful position. Imagine him playing there for Villa with a good attacking full-back behind him???
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
I'd say he's put 2m onto his price in that first half hour
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
Or being played in his rightful position. Imagine him playing there for Villa with a good attacking full-back behind him???
Like Walker?
don't suppose he's said to Mr Capello, I have to play as a second striker and take all the freekicks, corners etc
more like 'you will play on the wing'
Yes, Boss
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
Or being played in his rightful position. Imagine him playing there for Villa with a good attacking full-back behind him???
Like Walker?
Exactly!!!
don't suppose he's said to Mr Capello, I have to play as a second striker and take all the freekicks, corners etc
more like 'you will play on the wing'
Yes, Boss
So you reckon our manager who has seemingly fallen out with half the squad and doesn't seem too bothered who he upsets lets Ashley Young walk over him.
Doesn't seem very likely does it. Could it be that he likes Young paying where he picks him? That he thinks he's got others who can play wide but nobody who can do what Ash does in the system he wants us to pay?
On the contrary, he's been excellent in the last 43 minutes.lol.......very good , oh and where is he playing out on the wing
don't suppose he's said to Mr Capello, I have to play as a second striker and take all the freekicks, corners etc
more like 'you will play on the wing'
Yes, Boss
So you reckon our manager who has seemingly fallen out with half the squad and doesn't seem too bothered who he upsets lets Ashley Young walk over him.
Doesn't seem very likely does it. Could it be that he likes Young paying where he picks him? That he thinks he's got others who can play wide but nobody who can do what Ash does in the system he wants us to pay?
Chris.........Ash has done nothing for weeks im afraid.....
ashley young obviously in the position of shop window
Or being played in his rightful position. Imagine him playing there for Villa with a good attacking full-back behind him???
Like Walker?
Exactly!!!
Me and you should be co-managers. ;-)
don't suppose he's said to Mr Capello, I have to play as a second striker and take all the freekicks, corners etc
more like 'you will play on the wing'
Yes, Boss
So you reckon our manager who has seemingly fallen out with half the squad and doesn't seem too bothered who he upsets lets Ashley Young walk over him.
Doesn't seem very likely does it. Could it be that he likes Young paying where he picks him? That he thinks he's got others who can play wide but nobody who can do what Ash does in the system he wants us to pay?
Chris.........Ash has done nothing for weeks im afraid.....
He didn't do much last week I agree but was good against Backburn and Bolton. That's a different point though, it's the idea that he s forcing Houlier to play him in the middle that I'm disputing, it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
don't suppose he's said to Mr Capello, I have to play as a second striker and take all the freekicks, corners etc
more like 'you will play on the wing'
Yes, Boss
So you reckon our manager who has seemingly fallen out with half the squad and doesn't seem too bothered who he upsets lets Ashley Young walk over him.
Doesn't seem very likely does it. Could it be that he likes Young paying where he picks him? That he thinks he's got others who can play wide but nobody who can do what Ash does in the system he wants us to pay?
Chris.........Ash has done nothing for weeks im afraid.....
He didn't do much last week I agree but was good against Backburn and Bolton. That's a different point though, it's the idea that he s forcing Houlier to play him in the middle that I'm disputing, it just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Re the cricket, malingha the slinger
Cheating twat, that is not bowling
Well they've probably been bribedRe the cricket, malingha the slinger
Cheating twat, that is not bowling
Unfortunately the experts in the ICC disagree with you.
0-2 final score.
Young looked far and away England's best attacking threat.
Downing on for Wilshere.
0-2 final score.
Young looked far and away England's best attacking threat.
You're obviously mistaken Dave, he's shit and totally overrated.
Nobody watching the boat race then?
The BBC's flagship sports broadcast.
Nobody watching the boat race then?
The BBC's flagship sports broadcast.
I hear it's Oxford v Cambridge in this year's final. Who did they beat in the semis?
Well they've probably been bribedRe the cricket, malingha the slinger
Cheating twat, that is not bowling
Unfortunately the experts in the ICC disagree with you.
0-2 final score.
Young looked far and away England's best attacking threat.
You're obviously mistaken Dave, he's shit and totally overrated.
0-2 final score.
Young looked far and away England's best attacking threat.
You're obviously mistaken Dave, he's shit and totally overrated.
He looks good though against a Championship level defence like Wales have doesn't he...
James Collins looked awful today, I'd be inclined to leave him out vs Everton and go
Walker Dunne Cuellar Clark
James Collins looked awful today, I'd be inclined to leave him out vs Everton and go
Walker Dunne Cuellar Clark
Westwood was really impressive for Ireland tonight. Came for crosses, good with the ball at his feet (has some distance with his kicks) and made a crucial save. Havent seen that much of him but considering he is a free transfer is one definitely worth considering for the number one jersey at Villa Park next season.
Hmm, Dunne and Collins fit to play yesterday then.....
Nobody watching the boat race then?
The BBC's flagship sports broadcast.
I hear it's Oxford v Cambridge in this year's final. Who did they beat in the semis?
taken from bbc website
Five players released by England for Ghana friendly
Lampard, Rooney Cole ,Terry and Dawson have been released by England from the squad for Tuesday's international friendly with Ghana.
All five started Saturday's 2-0 Euro 2012 qualifying win over Wales.
England coach Fabio Capello has suggested he will change his entire starting XI for Tuesday's home match.
In addition to the released players, Kyle Walker has returned to Aston Villa after being ruled out of the game with a groin injury.
He's already said that it will be a completely different first XI. So they certainly won't be starting.taken from bbc website
Five players released by England for Ghana friendly
Lampard, Rooney Cole ,Terry and Dawson have been released by England from the squad for Tuesday's international friendly with Ghana.
All five started Saturday's 2-0 Euro 2012 qualifying win over Wales.
England coach Fabio Capello has suggested he will change his entire starting XI for Tuesday's home match.
In addition to the released players, Kyle Walker has returned to Aston Villa after being ruled out of the game with a groin injury.
So Young and Bent who did a full 90 min havent been released so if selected again will be knackered for Sat.Great !! Hope Kyles injury isn't too bad :(
He's already said that it will be a completely different first XI. So they certainly won't be starting.taken from bbc website
Five players released by England for Ghana friendly
Lampard, Rooney Cole ,Terry and Dawson have been released by England from the squad for Tuesday's international friendly with Ghana.
All five started Saturday's 2-0 Euro 2012 qualifying win over Wales.
England coach Fabio Capello has suggested he will change his entire starting XI for Tuesday's home match.
In addition to the released players, Kyle Walker has returned to Aston Villa after being ruled out of the game with a groin injury.
So Young and Bent who did a full 90 min havent been released so if selected again will be knackered for Sat.Great !! Hope Kyles injury isn't too bad :(
Neymar looks rather good for Brazil. Even if he does have silly hair.
At the risk of making this sound like a Villa match thread... get Bannan on!
Hmm, Dunne and Collins fit to play yesterday then.....
I know, it must be a first for medical science where injured players recover. It all points to a massive conspiracy to hoodwink Villa fans, Houliier has wanted to play Chris Herd at centre half all season but has not had the excuse until now.
At the risk of making this sound like a Villa match thread... get Bannan on!
He's getting 35 mins. No surprise to hear the commentators are scratching their heads as to why we've left Bannan out on loan.
Sky creaming their y fronts over wiltshires performance on Saturday
Just showing Ashley Young highlights
HE'S A BLOODY WINGER!!
Hmm, Dunne and Collins fit to play yesterday then.....
I know, it must be a first for medical science where injured players recover. It all points to a massive conspiracy to hoodwink Villa fans, Houliier has wanted to play Chris Herd at centre half all season but has not had the excuse until now.
Haha, slightly harsh there Chris. I know what you're saying but is it really a coincidence that they can play a few days after a very important league game against Wolves? Both of them? Y'know, those two who caused such a stink on the 'bonding' trip?
Sky creaming their y fronts over wiltshires performance on Saturdaywas it just me, or was wilshere very anonymous against a very very poor wales side?
No mention of bent or young ??
Tosspots
Sky creaming their y fronts over wiltshires performance on Saturdaywas it just me, or was wilshere very anonymous against a very very poor wales side?
No mention of bent or young ??
Tosspots
and shit in his last england performance as well?
Sky creaming their y fronts over wiltshires performance on Saturdaywas it just me, or was wilshere very anonymous against a very very poor wales side?
No mention of bent or young ??
Tosspots
and shit in his last england performance as well?
Marc and Nathan X2 playing tonight for U21
Unfortunately, our other Nathan let the forward get across him for their goal.
So, friendly tomorrow vs Ghana, can anyone tell me the point of this game ???1) Internationals are being played this week so it allows the England manager to have a closer look at some of the players.
Albrighton Man of the Match.He's been excellentYes. Easy choice for the judges.
So, friendly tomorrow vs Ghana, can anyone tell me the point of this game ???1) Internationals are being played this week so it allows the England manager to have a closer look at some of the players.
2) It helps the FA pay off the ridiculous bill that they have ended up with for their shiny new stadium.
Probably none. I'm not sure there's anyone fit who would be good enough is there?So, friendly tomorrow vs Ghana, can anyone tell me the point of this game ???1) Internationals are being played this week so it allows the England manager to have a closer look at some of the players.
2) It helps the FA pay off the ridiculous bill that they have ended up with for their shiny new stadium.
Ok, how many ManUre players will feature ?
are we being mugged off as a club ?
Why ? I've been suppoting villa since pre early 90's pal,So the 1980s?
No since mid 70sWhy ? I've been suppoting villa since pre early 90's pal,So the 1980s?
No since mid 70sWhy ? I've been suppoting villa since pre early 90's pal,So the 1980s?
Downing MOTM i see. Would have given it to Cahil myself. Biggest transfer mistake EVOH..
Could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time but i reckon he'll be England captain in 4 years time, probably playing for the mancs or Arsenal.......*spits*
Could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time but i reckon he'll be England captain in 4 years time, probably playing for the mancs or Arsenal.......*spits*
He's a good solid defender but techinically he's not good enough to play for those teams imo. They need ball players.
Downing MOTM i see. Would have given it to Cahil myself. Biggest transfer mistake EVOH..
What does EVOH mean?
Could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time but i reckon he'll be England captain in 4 years time, probably playing for the mancs or Arsenal.......*spits*
He's a good solid defender but techinically he's not good enough to play for those teams imo. They need ball players.
The sale of Cahill was an act of gross negligence by MON
Really depressing
The sale of Cahill was an act of gross negligence by MON
Really depressing
Cahill is a better centre half than any of the centre halves that are in our squad right now.
Second pen for West Ham. They are always saved every season by dodgy officials and the FA aren't they. Fecking jammy bastards. Second was outside the area for sure.It's what manu deserve
Serves Fergie right for fielding a weakened side.Idiot !!Second pen for West Ham. They are always saved every season by dodgy officials and the FA aren't they. Fecking jammy bastards. Second was outside the area for sure.It's what manu deserve
Vidic having a mare.Should have walked
Yeah real idiot... hmmm.
One of the only times i want United to win and theyre fcuking it up,need a quick goal before ht.
Tell you what Villalways, I would like to be as big an idiot as him over the last 25 years. He knows his team best, and may have got the selection wrong, but apart from 2 penalty incidents, it has been all united.Surely you can see I'm just pissed off this isn't going our way
I'd like to see Fabio, Valencia & Nani line up in a defensive wall. It'd be like looking at the different stages of Michael Jackson's life.
I'd like to see Fabio, Valencia & Nani line up in a defensive wall. It'd be like looking at the different stages of Michael Jackson's life.
Nice goal from Shrek, now get an equaliser you bastards.
I'd like to see Fabio, Valencia & Nani line up in a defensive wall. It'd be like looking at the different stages of Michael Jackson's life.
Berbatov on too now. Need United to get a couple more - would shatter the West Ham confidence if they can turn it round too.
what price 2-3?
I love Wayne Rooney.
There were people who were guaranteeing our relegation after Wolves. Don't underestimate what Albion throwing away 2 points against Arsenal, and if this result stays, what this will do to West Ham mentally. Playing well and losing is worse than knowing you played shit and losing.
There were people who were guaranteeing our relegation after Wolves. Don't underestimate what Albion throwing away 2 points against Arsenal, and if this result stays, what this will do to West Ham mentally. Playing well and losing is worse than knowing you played shit and losing.
Like us last week?
Nani is on Villalways -
Nani is on Villalways -
Fergies a genius,I've always said it ;)
Nani is on Villalways -
Fergies a genius,I've always said it ;)
I know, I know. You were just saying an hour or so ago what a manager he was for psychologically lulling the opposition into thinking they had it won at 2-0 and leaving the top players out was simply to show how hungry the rest of the players were right?
Am I the only one who's hatred for ManUtd intensified today after seeing all those ludicrous refereeing decisions all go their way? Vidic should've been sent off. He should've been sent off in that Carling Cup final too. And yes, I'm still bitter about that.
Am I the only one who's hatred for ManUtd intensified today after seeing all those ludicrous refereeing decisions all go their way? Vidic should've been sent off. He should've been sent off in that Carling Cup final too. And yes, I'm still bitter about that.
Not when it meant they beat the Spammers no.
Rant over. Off to make myself some caramel.
We'll finish 17th with a fag paper between us and spam at this rate. If one of the shit teams goes on anything like a run though we're toast.
I see Rooney's apologized for swearing at the camera man. That's your morning headline tomorrow.
I see Rooney's apologized for swearing at the camera man. That's your morning headline tomorrow.
Well, that makes it OK then. Does it? He's a disgrace.
just looked at the BBC predictor, because so many games remain between the bottom clubs its hard to see many of those down there getting away from the relegation zone, 2 wins might be enough to survive but it looks like it there will be between 4 and 7 teams going to the wireWe'll finish 17th with a fag paper between us and spam at this rate. If one of the shit teams goes on anything like a run though we're toast.
We need 3/4 of the shit teams to go on a good run, and for us to go on a shit losing streak to go down.
I see Rooney's apologized for swearing at the camera man. That's your morning headline tomorrow.
Well, that makes it OK then. Does it? He's a disgrace.
I totally agree.
I see Rooney's apologized for swearing at the camera man. That's your morning headline tomorrow.
Well, that makes it OK then. Does it? He's a disgrace.
I totally agree.
I listened to most of 6-0-6 tonight [my personal highlight of the programme was Mike Parry saying something along the lines of 'this is Mike Parry on Talk Sport' then quickly correcting himself]. Robbie Savage had a lot to say about it and so did a lot of the callers. I don't know what Rooney said, but I'm guessing f*** or f***ing was included at some stage.
Christ that was some lump on the forehead of Nasri.
...
Cannot believe that banner the Scousers have produced " Thanks for the grey hair Roy" Disrespectful gits.
Cannot believe that banner the Scousers have produced " Thanks for the grey hair Roy" Disrespectful gits.
Very pleased for him that he gave them a few more today.
shocking results for us today, but a good result for the team considering their home form and our situation. Getting Bent back in confidence, the 4-4-2 etc. Must win next week.
The results were bad for us yesterday but now is not the time for despair. Beat the Geordies and things will look a lot rosier.
Clutching at straws I know but with Arsenal now pretty much out of the race to win the title, our final two games against them and Liverpool might just be games where there is nothing in it for the opposition. Therefore they could be ideal teams to play at that stage....I was thinking that myself. When I looked at the remaining fixtures I got the same impression. Hopefully though we will beat Newcastle, Wigan, Brom and get something from the West Ham game.
id rather Fulham win too,keep Blckpool below us,i dont think Fulham are in any danger of going downDon't Fulham have one point more than us, Blackburn and Birmingham?
1-0 Fulham
Good.
1-0 FulhamCracking goal from Zamora.They need to hammer them now
Good.
this could be 5 or 6
Sidwell dropped ?
he's on the bench
Sidwell dropped ?
Injured
Sidwell dropped ?
Injured
He got sunstroke in training on Wednesday when it was 18°C.
He's onSidwell dropped ?
Injured
He got sunstroke in training on Wednesday when it was 18°C.
From BBC footy page:
"1333: Typically confident start from Blackpool, who really can move the ball around nicely when they're in the mood. There can't be any neutral out there that doesn't want the boys in orange to stay in the league this year can there?"
Fuck off.
another soft penif u dive into tackles players will go down even if there is minimal contact, its how it is these days
another soft penif u dive into tackles players will go down even if there is minimal contact, its how it is these days
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You mean they cheat? And they are getting better at it with plenty of practice.
another soft penif u dive into tackles players will go down even if there is minimal contact, its how it is these days
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You mean they cheat? And they are getting better at it with plenty of practice.
Its only cheating if u dive and you have not been fouled....
Barry & Milner both left out
Barry & Milner both left out
Something they will need to get very used to next season when both will be nothing more than squad players...oh dear
He must have scored with his first touch
See vidic getting away with murder again
Barry is there to make money but for young James it is an absolute shame that his talent is being wasted. F in agents for you !Barry & Milner both left out
Something they will need to get very used to next season when both will be nothing more than squad players...oh dear
Agree with both of you. I see a Victor Meldrew moment coning on!See vidic getting away with murder again
Just seen the highlights of this game, that was absolutely outrageous he was on the pitch. No surprise at all.
Sunderland are terrible, nearly as shit as us.
Wolfsburg 0 - 1 frankfurt.That really made me laugh
No idea why i'm watching it really.
That Fulham fan in Jacko garb, brilliant!
Sunderland are terrible, nearly as shit as us.
Sunderland are terrible, nearly as shit as us.
Sunderland are terrible, nearly as shit as us.
Didn't they come back and beat Chelsea 3-0 (without Bent) on the back of losing 5-1 to Newcastle.Got a feeling they'll beat the Baggies next week
Sunderland are terrible, nearly as shit as us.
Didn't they come back and beat Chelsea 3-0 (without Bent) on the back of losing 5-1 to Newcastle.Got a feeling they'll beat the Baggies next week
They also did the double on us.
I have bad memories of when they last came to VP and saw one of our stewards being knocked to the ground by a group of their fans. He died shortly after.
I have bad memories of when they last came to VP and saw one of our stewards being knocked to the ground by a group of their fans. He died shortly after.
Thats sad, don't recall that
We do have "history" with QPR
Anyone else completely unaware Spurs are playing Real Madrid tonight?
Ahem...
Anyone else completely unaware Spurs are playing Real Madrid tonight?
Ahem...
Anyone else completely unaware Spurs are playing Real Madrid tonight?
Ahem...
can't see anything on SSN.....
If you weren't aware, Gareth Bale is fit to play
I hope Madrid tear them apart
Must admit I quite fancy watching this tonight. I agree that all the hype is bollocks but I can avoid that and the game itself should be decent. Would like to see Spurs well and truly humiliated but doubt it will happen.
Must admit I quite fancy watching this tonight. I agree that all the hype is bollocks but I can avoid that and the game itself should be decent. Would like to see Spurs well and truly humiliated but doubt it will happen.
This.
The day will be spent listening to 6Music, and I will just put the game on at kick off.
I'll be cheering every Real Madrid goal, and please let their be 8 of them.
I hope Madrid tear them apart
That's a surprise considering that you've named yourself after the bloke who scored a cup final winner for Spurs.
I like Spurs and think the football this current lot are playing is great to watch. Not only do I want them to splatter Real Madrid (I look forward to all those close-ups of a sad-eyed Ronaldo) but I also want them to win the thing, especially if that means a fourth-placed Manchester City find themselves back in the Europa League next season.
I like Spurs and think the football this current lot are playing is great to watch. Not only do I want them to splatter Real Madrid (I look forward to all those close-ups of a sad-eyed Ronaldo) but I also want them to win the thing, especially if that means a fourth-placed Manchester City find themselves back in the Europa League next season.
I don't care who else has won it or will win it. We did, and that's all that really matters.
I don't care who else has won it or will win it. We did, and that's all that really matters.
Villa are the nearest club to the south that has won it, let's keep it that way please.
I also want Spurs to be comprehensively splattered, murdered, walloped, thrashed, annihilated and stuffed in both legs against Madrid with Bale scoring 3 own goals.
I don't care who else has won it or will win it. We did, and that's all that really matters.
Villa are the nearest club to the south that has won it, let's keep it that way please.
I also want Spurs to be comprehensively splattered, murdered, walloped, thrashed, annihilated and stuffed in both legs against Madrid with Bale scoring 3 own goals.
Yes please.
I hope Madrid tear them apart
That's a surprise considering that you've named yourself after the bloke who scored a cup final winner for Spurs.
I like Spurs and think the football this current lot are playing is great to watch. Not only do I want them to splatter Real Madrid (I look forward to all those close-ups of a sad-eyed Ronaldo) but I also want them to win the thing, especially if that means a fourth-placed Manchester City find themselves back in the Europa League next season.
I like Spurs and think the football this current lot are playing is great to watch. Not only do I want them to splatter Real Madrid (I look forward to all those close-ups of a sad-eyed Ronaldo) but I also want them to win the thing, especially if that means a fourth-placed Manchester City find themselves back in the Europa League next season.
You've heard the saying 'a minority of one'?I couldn't care less. I know hate is the modern thing to do but there you go.
... because for a bit more managerial nous, it could have been us.I know what you mean, though it would have had to have been a lot more nous, otherwise we'd never have got past the Young Boys qualifier.
Anyone else see this Spurs side and CL run and draw comparisons to what Leeds did under DOL?
I just can't escape the feeling it'll all end in tears.....
Anyone else see this Spurs side and CL run and draw comparisons to what Leeds did under DOL?
I just can't escape the feeling it'll all end in tears.....
Anyone else see this Spurs side and CL run and draw comparisons to what Leeds did under DOL?
I just can't escape the feeling it'll all end in tears.....
If i were a Spurs fan, on the day we were about to play Real Madrid at the Bernabeu in the CL quarter final, the thought it might end in tears would be the furthest thing from my mind.
Is it just the top 4 who get into the CL ?
assuming spurs finish 5th / 6th they'll need to win it to be in it again ?
Anyone else see this Spurs side and CL run and draw comparisons to what Leeds did under DOL?
I just can't escape the feeling it'll all end in tears.....
If i were a Spurs fan, on the day we were about to play Real Madrid at the Bernabeu in the CL quarter final, the thought it might end in tears would be the furthest thing from my mind.
Absolutely, but from the outside it looks like their run in the CL this year will be at the expense of qualifying through the league for next season. So, they get their day in the sun but how do they feel next year when they're not in it? What do their players who have had a taster think?
Definitely not something to worry about today but I'm sure it is a concern for those who run the club.
I just hope they get mullered tonight.
I think Spurs may start to suffer in the same way we did at this point last season and injuries/tiredness will hit them hard.
Come on Real.
Its pretty impressive shit, getting yourself booked twice inside 15 mins at the Bernabeu.
Ref seems officious but they were both bookable challenges.
Ray Wilkins just referred to "tippy tappy stuff"
I'm not sure I can cope with another 45 minutes of this commentary.
I'm not sure I can cope with another 45 minutes of this commentary.
He said "this referee, this young man, is top drawer tonight" - about a minute after he'd said he'd missed a clear penalty for Real.
It's the weirdest commentating performance I've ever heard.
And 'Ray Wilkins' is trending on Twitter at the moment.
He said "this referee, this young man, is top drawer tonight" - about a minute after he'd said he'd missed a clear penalty for Real.And apparently Bale going over a minute later, Ramos not being booked was "the worst decision he's made tonight".
He said "this referee, this young man, is top drawer tonight" - about a minute after he'd said he'd missed a clear penalty for Real.
It's the weirdest commentating performance I've ever heard.
It's very irritating. The 'we' references are very irritating. He's also said 'got to stay on your feet' literally about 15 times.
10 goals in 10 games against Spurs for Adebayor.
My kinda guy.
I love this thread when the natives are happy.
Inter 2 Schalke 5!
If Corluka is seriously injured then Spurs may want to recall Kyle Walker as Hutton is out for the season alreadyThat'll be a bit unlucky for them then. As they can't.
My word!
At this moment in time
In this situation
They just will not
Retain possession of the ball
And they just will not
Stay on their feet
The only thing which could improve this thread right now would be a Gomes clanger.
The only thing which could improve this thread right now would be a Gomes clanger.Will that one do?
Who's monkey boy?
Who's monkey boy?Bale
The only thing which could improve this thread right now would be a Gomes clanger.
Boom!
"If Crouch had stayed on, they might have scored that away goal that they DO deserve, Tottenham, in the CL this year"He upgraded it to "if Crouch had stayed on, they would have scored" now.
Nah, I don't see it! ;)Who's monkey boy?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgc9fawRVm1qgxlamo1_400.jpg)
Well there's still everything to play for at the Lane
Well there's still everything to play for at the Lane
ITV are going to have a hell of a job trying to hype up the second leg.
ITV are going to have a hell of a job trying to hype up the second leg.
I bet the media are slitting their wrists that their best mate 'appy 'arry got stuffed. Shame.
As for Ray Wilkins, 'stay on your feet, you must stay on your feet', 'keep the ball, you must keep the ball in this environment'. Shat ap.
Nah, I don't see it! ;)Who's monkey boy?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgc9fawRVm1qgxlamo1_400.jpg)
ITV are going to have a hell of a job trying to hype up the second leg.Tune in for the exciting return leg at White Hart Lane. All Spurs need is 3 early goals and game is all set up for them to win!
And with the wonderful 'appy 'arry who knows?!ITV are going to have a hell of a job trying to hype up the second leg.Tune in for the exciting return leg at White Hart Lane. All Spurs need is 3 early goals and game is all set up for them to win!
Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Shame for Tottenham. At least it would be if I gave a shit.
What I did find annoying was Ray Wilkins' insistence that because Hotspurts are an English team then every English person would be rooting for them. There was at least one observer who wasn't, Ray.
We'd have won the FA Cup with a semi final line up of Barnsley, Cardiff and Olbiyun.Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Hmmm.
How would we have done in the quarter-final against Man Utd at Old Trafford?We'd have won the FA Cup with a semi final line up of Barnsley, Cardiff and Olbiyun.Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Hmmm.
We'd have won the FA Cup with a semi final line up of Barnsley, Cardiff and Olbiyun.Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Hmmm.
(although i had forgot he won that)
We'd have won the FA Cup with a semi final line up of Barnsley, Cardiff and Olbiyun.Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Hmmm.
(although i had forgot he won that)
Shocking stuff from Inter. I don't think i've ever seen an Italian team defend so badly in Europe.
No sympathy from me though, I'm still bitter about 1990. Bastards.
Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Hmmm.
Didn't he win the League Cup with Spurs too?Nope. Ramos did.
Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Hmmm.
He might have won the FA cup but spending all the wages on the players he bought in that made the win possible also had a big hand in the subsequent meltdown that occurred.
This is just outstanding:
Didn't he win the League Cup with Spurs too?Nope. Ramos did.
Fuckin Harry Redknapp, he's never won anything and left almost every club in financial ruin.
Hmmm.
He might have won the FA cup but spending all the wages on the players he bought in that made the win possible also had a big hand in the subsequent meltdown that occurred.
I'd say it was more to do with being owned by a succession of absolute crooks that did for Portsmouth. If you look at the profits produced by the sale of some of the players that Redknapp bought, they should never have been in that position. Glen Johnson sold for £18m, Crouch for £9m, Muntari for £13m, Diarra for £20m, Defoe for £15m, that's an absolute fortune.
It wasn't fantastic defending, but that doesn't detract from the perfect technique he needed to come up with to volley it first time from there.This is just outstanding:
Being a miserable bastard the defender tracking back with the attacker should have covered for the GK when he sailed past him as if he had carried on it would have been an easy clearance and the striker would have been offside. Instead he turned back to the edge of the area. But good finish otherwise.
Didn't he win the League Cup with Spurs too?Nope. Ramos did.
Ah, my mistake.
And they sacked him?!
It wasn't fantastic defending, but that doesn't detract from the perfect technique he needed to come up with to volley it first time from there.This is just outstanding:
Being a miserable bastard the defender tracking back with the attacker should have covered for the GK when he sailed past him as if he had carried on it would have been an easy clearance and the striker would have been offside. Instead he turned back to the edge of the area. But good finish otherwise.
Didn't he win the League Cup with Spurs too?Nope. Ramos did.
Ah, my mistake.
And they sacked him?!
IIRC if you took Ramos's league results for the 2008 calendar year, they had played 35 games and had about 36 points. After winning the cup I think he only had about 3 other league wins until sacked 3 months into the following season in which they had not won one league game at that point.
Wow, so does that mean when Redknapp took over from Ramos they were in the bottom 2 of the league? I'd not heard that before.
Wow, so does that mean when Redknapp took over from Ramos they were in the bottom 2 of the league? I'd not heard that before.
Ask Ray.
Wow, so does that mean when Redknapp took over from Ramos they were in the bottom 2 of the league? I'd not heard that before.
Ask Ray.
I'm waiting for him to tell me I can sit down again, I'm fucking tired.
must have missed the chants when I went , then.
The yids?
can't you comment without being antisemitic?
must have missed the chants when I went , then.
Tottenham often sing "Yid army".
Bravo Jose 4-0.His pedigree in Europe is unrivalled.
One thing I will say about Good Old Harry is that he has taken what was a right tonking with dignity.
Imagine the incredulity of the likes of Ferguson and Wenger, spitting bile and venom around and blaming everyone from UEFA to the Madrid tea lady.
One thing I will say about Good Old Harry is that he has taken what was a right tonking with dignity.
Imagine the incredulity of the likes of Ferguson and Wenger, spitting bile and venom around and blaming everyone from UEFA to the Madrid tea lady.
You will often see an array of Star of David flags too within their support home & away, often carried by non jewsmust have missed the chants when I went , then.
Tottenham often sing "Yid army".
Spurs supporters who I know on Twitter call themselves Yids too.
One thing I will say about Good Old Harry is that he has taken what was a right tonking with dignity.
Imagine the incredulity of the likes of Ferguson and Wenger, spitting bile and venom around and blaming everyone from UEFA to the Madrid tea lady.
One thing I will say about Good Old Harry is that he has taken what was a right tonking with dignity.
Imagine the incredulity of the likes of Ferguson and Wenger, spitting bile and venom around and blaming everyone from UEFA to the Madrid tea lady.
They've had a good run, beaten some good teams, then got tonked by one of the European greats. I'd have settled for that in our first Champions League campaign if we'd ever actually managed to hang on to 4th place. It's got to be better than losing to Vienna every year.
One thing I will say about Good Old Harry is that he has taken what was a right tonking with dignity.
Imagine the incredulity of the likes of Ferguson and Wenger, spitting bile and venom around and blaming everyone from UEFA to the Madrid tea lady.
What, you mean like last season, when Wenger's team lost 4-1 in Barca and all Wenger did was praise the victors and call Messi "the best player in the world, and by a distance"? Yeah, real bitter.
It's all a load of bollocks, anyway. Get rid of the group games, only allow Champions in....and perpetual entry for former winners.
They've had a good run, beaten some good teams, then got tonked by one of the European greats. I'd have settled for that in our first Champions League campaign if we'd ever actually managed to hang on to 4th place. It's got to be better than losing to Vienna every year.
"Believe me this is one game I did not want to miss and still devo now," the England international wrote on Twitter.
Devo ? what a twat
Hate wanting United to win but I don't want any grubby cockney hands on the European Cup.
Hate wanting United to win but I don't want any grubby cockney hands on the European Cup.
It's the kobayashi maru of football
How shit is Torres ?
The Champions League is a cracking competition. The group stages are a bit stale, but the knockouts get better and better every year. I long for the day we get there.
I feel sorry for Shakhtar, had the legs been the other way round they'd have had a good chance, but Barca will make the second leg a formality tonight, I feel.
How shit is Torres ?
Erm, not shit?
The Champions League is a cracking competition. The group stages are a bit stale, but the knockouts get better and better every year. I long for the day we get there.
More insightful analysis from ITV:I was going to post earlier about their half time analysis. They really are crap. No replay at all of that goal line clearance even when Harry referred to it. Some really facile comments from Chiles and that's it. Dreadful dreadful coverage.
"If it stays 1-0 to United then they'll definitely have the advantage".
Amazing.
Oh well, looking like the European Cup wont ever find its way to London. What a shame.No worse than it going to Salford. Frankly if it doesn't end up in Catalunya it will be a travesty.
stone wall pen.
The Champions League is a cracking competition. The group stages are a bit stale, but the knockouts get better and better every year. I long for the day we get there.
Grubby little competition that lost all its kudos when they started allowing teams in it that had not won their own leagues to qualify. Every team we beat in 1982 were national champions. Having said that, when we are in it one day I may give it a bit more attention.
Masterchef was good, it was the food critics round tonight.
Who won the football?
The Champions League is a cracking competition. The group stages are a bit stale, but the knockouts get better and better every year. I long for the day we get there.
Grubby little competition that lost all its kudos when they started allowing teams in it that had not won their own leagues to qualify. Every team we beat in 1982 were national champions. Having said that, when we are in it one day I may give it a bit more attention.
Exactly. As I said last night I found it extremely distasteful to see a team in the quarter finals that has not won its own domestic league fpor 50 years...
Masterchef was good, it was the food critics round tonight.
Who won the football?
Masterchef was good, it was the food critics round tonight.
Who won the football?
Sheffield united youth, unfortunately.
Did they get rid of that annoying "vegetarian street fusion food" woman on Masterchef?
The Champions League is a cracking competition. The group stages are a bit stale, but the knockouts get better and better every year. I long for the day we get there.
Grubby little competition that lost all its kudos when they started allowing teams in it that had not won their own leagues to qualify. Every team we beat in 1982 were national champions. Having said that, when we are in it one day I may give it a bit more attention.
Exactly. As I said last night I found it extremely distasteful to see a team in the quarter finals that has not won its own domestic league fpor 50 years...
So you'd find it distasteful if we finished 4th and reached the QF? Or is 30 years ok?
I think I have slightly more respect for Man U fans than Chelsea ones. At least some of them have stuck with Man U through thick and slightly less thick. That match when they weren't winning at half-time once saw a good percentage of their fans jump ship.
The Champions League is a cracking competition. The group stages are a bit stale, but the knockouts get better and better every year. I long for the day we get there.
Rooney's goal and the build up was a bit special, you have to concede them that
The Champions League is a cracking competition. The group stages are a bit stale, but the knockouts get better and better every year. I long for the day we get there.
It's not . Just look at QF first leg results 5-1, 4-0, 2-5 and 0-1. Hardly competitive. It's a. endless self defeating pursuit of riches and clubs in it dare not miss out as missing out leads to ruination as Spurs are going to find out next season.
Lesser of two evils but I marginally favour Chelsea. Our record against them is much better probably has something to do with it. They don't quite get the same level of favourable treatment from refs either.But you won't want another English team to win it, right? Especially one from London.
Any idea what the blocks of empty seats was for? I know they have to leave the first few rows empty for the fuck-off advertising boards but the last few rows of one of the upper tiers was empty as well along with a few other blocks. Very odd.I was wondering about those seats behind the goal too in a sort of rectangular shape, they've been there for all Chelsea's champions league games this season, it looks odd
Did I hear them say United only had a 900 allocation ?
Not much Boswinga could have done, Carrick's pass to Giggs was sublimeA little nudge in right place would have stopped Giggs not that I endorse that sort of behaviour.
Not much Boswinga could have done, Carrick's pass to Giggs was sublimeA little nudge in right place would have stopped Giggs not that I endorse that sort of behaviour.
The yids?
can't you comment without being antisemitic?
Do you really think he was being antisemetic? Or are you posting that for effect?
Good game that one. End to end stuff & some good goals.
The yids?
can't you comment without being antisemitic?
Do you really think he was being antisemetic? Or are you posting that for effect?
No - not for effect, it's what I thought when I read the original post.
Having read other posts since, it seems I missed a meeting. Apologies, Greg.
I spent a number of games behind the goal with the home fans and with my partner at the time (1980's) and didn't hear anything, but things could well have moved on in a post-ironic spirit, since then!
Benfica v PSV was a cracking game. The Europa League/UEFA Cup could still be a cracking competition if they sorted it out.
Gerrards season is over, may make last game a tad easier
Spurs have admitted they will have to "streamline" if they fail to make the Champions League this season, probably including selling Bale and/or other players. On this basis I fail to see why anyone would want them to qualify ahead of Man City.
Why? It's no more difficult a game than Stoke or Newcastle at home.True enough, but I'd still hope we're safe before the last day of the season!
Gerrards season is over, may make last game a tad easier
If ManU won the CL and PL would 5th place qualify ?
Of course,thanks.If ManU won the CL and PL would 5th place qualify ?
No. Maximum of 4 teams from any league.
There was five the season Liverpool came fifth behind Everton.
There was five the season Liverpool came fifth behind Everton.
Then the rules were changed.
This on the heels of the Newcastle belting, surely now they're a certainty for the drop.
They look terrible.
West Ham player thumped Robert Green according to R5.
West Ham player thumped Robert Green according to R5.
Player or fan? Accidentaly or on purpose?
If Noble did thump Green why is he still on the pitch?
Great stuff from Bolton, we just need blackburn and the blose to stay as a draw.
why are people on here hoping for blackburn to do well. They are far more likely to occupy one of the bottom three places than the blues. Makes no sense whatsoever...
blues have a game in hand.
blues have a game in hand.
Against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge
Baggies winning.
Baggies winning.
FFS !!!!!!
yeah, pity Lerner couldn't have trusted Kmac for a bit longer and if then it had gone wrong wrong, we could have had Roy..
1643: Some champagne needed at Tamworth, I think. Crawley are 3-0 up and heading for the Football League for the first time. Three points will see them crowned Blue Square Bet Premier champions today. I think their success will be as popular in non-league circles as mine in the Grand National was in the office earlier!
yeah..think of what we might have achieved in those 4 months...!
Sunderland in big big trouble. Massive opportunity for Villa tomorrow now.
God, if Sunderland are in big big trouble what about the teams below us. The reality is that even though they are on a stinking run, one more win and they'll be ok. They are 6 points clear of relegation.
Yes :( - I'm trying to work out my winnings for 3rd place in the National at 10-1.
Yes :( - I'm trying to work out my winnings for 3rd place in the National at 10-1.
Yes :( - I'm trying to work out my winnings for 3rd place in the National at 10-1.
Quarter odds so you get 2.5-1.
I really did think Wolves and West Ham might get something this weekend against a weakened Everton who haven't got that much motivation now and Bolton who have one eye on the cup semi.
Norwich do play some excellent football. Don't know how they're losing this.Down to the Swansea goalie mainly
Yes :( - I'm trying to work out my winnings for 3rd place in the National at 10-1.
Quarter odds so you get 2.5-1.
Thanks, so does that mean for £1 stake each way, I'll get £2.50 back? Which as my total outlay including the other nags [both finished, just not in the right order] was £6.00 means a career as a professional gambler isn't for me.
That third goal for Everton from Billybunk was pretty special.
Anyone hear Woy after the Albion game?
Between 12 and 15 seconds lol.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/default.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_bromwich_albion/default.stm)
Look at the fucking state of Robbie Savage on MOTD.
Look at the fucking state of Robbie Savage on MOTD.
Look at the fucking state of Robbie Savage on MOTD.
Oh. My. God. What a sight.
Fair play to Savage though. Summed up Barton well.Yep, that was funny for someone like Savage.
Minutes silence at anfield
Hell of a strike that, keeper maybe should have done better.looked like it swerved a lot........
Kuyt?, the guy that makes Heskey look like a fox in the box? You sure?Yes that Kuyt
See what City are made of now; their neighbours would get a point out of this.
See I do often wonder about criticism of Ash from our fans, he has been a Villa a fair while. Milner who was with us a couple of years, then jumped ship at first opportunity is seen in a much better light.
See I do often wonder about criticism of Ash from our fans, he has been a Villa a fair while. Milner who was with us a couple of years, then jumped ship at first opportunity is seen in a much better light.
See I do often wonder about criticism of Ash from our fans, he has been a Villa a fair while. Milner who was with us a couple of years, then jumped ship at first opportunity is seen in a much better light.
Same with Barry. He at least had the decency to spend the best part of a decade with us.
Nice strop by Milner as he was substituted.
I would have him back in a heartbeat. In fact, just give them whatever we get for Young to bring him back.
I would have him back in a heartbeat. In fact, just give them whatever we get for Young to bring him back.
Milner I imagine feels far more pissed off than most players when he isn't playing.
Could still be doing so for us but he fucked off so he can rot for all I care.
I see it differently, Barry did his time at villa and we shouldn't begrudge him the big money move
Milner I feel owed us 2 or 3 more years but no first whiff of £££ and he was off
Can't say I hate Barry or Milner. Players like Joey Barton are the ones that deserve any abuse they get.
Have to support Manure tonight, which is never nice.
Looking forward to another top night of Ray "stay on your feet" Wilkins guff later (assuming he's doing the ManUre - Chelski game)
Can't say I hate Barry or Milner. Players like Joey Barton are the ones that deserve any abuse they get.
Have to support Manure tonight, which is never nice.
I don't hate Barry or Milner either, but I do hope they win F@ck all at Man City. Maybe its bitterness on my part over them nicking our best players, but I want to see City fall flat on their faces, and miss out on the top 4.
So (given my hatred for Chelsea also) that actually means I want Man Utd to win tonight AND on Saturday, which is quite something!
Citeh have got no hope this weekend if Tevez is out.
Which is nice.
This should be one heluva gameSo far it's a belter. I might go and do some ironing instead to get a real thrill.
This should be one heluva gameSo far it's a belter. I might go and do some ironing instead to get a real thrill.
Why can't all footballers have as much class as Giggs.
and so the sun sets on the Ancelotti era at Chelsea. He won't survive a trophyless season. Amazing really when a manager will likely lose his job a season after winning the double.
and so the sun sets on the Ancelotti era at Chelsea. He won't survive a trophyless season. Amazing really when a manager will likely lose his job a season after winning the double.
TBH they could have won the title again this year but Abramovitch interfered again like he did to Mourinho and decided to get rid of Ray (look at their results pre and post change) and buy Torres over his managers head (Shevchenko anyone).
Messi has 48 goals this season!! Bloody amazing. The world has run out of superlatives to describe how incredible he is. I hope he wins a World Cup so he can truly be one of the great players of all time. His international CV needs a little help, but what a club career he has had so far.
Why can't all footballers have as much class as Giggs.
What a heap of overhyped shit is the Champions' League.
Richard Keys is coming up with some right crap this morning, Spurzzz can do it & Bale player of the season ? WTF ?
Vidic by a mile
Richard Keys is coming up with some right crap this morning, Spurzzz can do it & Bale player of the season ? WTF ?
Vidic by a mile
I was quite shocked by Bales Prem stats this season...something like 6 goals and one assist I think? Quality player but the Milan games are living long in most people memories obviously.
Vidic for me too. Quality defender and holds a curse over any referee daring to send him off.
Fair play to Brighton...
SSN now showing the Barca 5-0 RMadrid clips and also the Dippers 4-0 win over them from 2009 and insisting its definitely game still on tonight
Wankers
My landlord has taken away my satellite dish, and therefore my TV isn't working. Anyone got a stream for the Spurs game, please?
Premier League only
Ashley Young
28 Apps
6 Goals
12 Assists
Gareth Bale
26 Apps
7 Goals
5 Assists
Gareth Bale, the best left winger in the world!
Premier League only
Ashley Young
28 Apps
6 Goals
12 Assists
Gareth Bale
26 Apps
7 Goals
5 Assists
Gareth Bale, the best left winger in the world!
What are Downing and Albrighton's stats?
Richard Keys is coming up with some right crap this morning, Spurzzz can do it & Bale player of the season ? WTF ?
Vidic by a mile
I was quite shocked by Bales Prem stats this season...something like 6 goals and one assist I think? Quality player but the Milan games are living long in most people memories obviously.
Vidic for me too. Quality defender and holds a curse over any referee daring to send him off.
Premier League only
Ashley Young
28 Apps
6 Goals
12 Assists
Gareth Bale
26 Apps
7 Goals
5 Assists
Gareth Bale, the best left winger in the world!
My landlord has taken away my satellite dish, and therefore my TV isn't working. Anyone got a stream for the Spurs game, please?
It'll be live on the ITV website.
Richard Keys is coming up with some right crap this morning, Spurzzz can do it & Bale player of the season ? WTF ?
Vidic by a mile
I was quite shocked by Bales Prem stats this season...something like 6 goals and one assist I think? Quality player but the Milan games are living long in most people memories obviously.
Vidic for me too. Quality defender and holds a curse over any referee daring to send him off.
Cheating diving pricksthe 3 attempts to get a penalty have been embarrasing.
Worthy of 3 yellow cardsCheating diving pricksthe 3 attempts to get a penalty have been embarrasing.
What's happened? Is it.... 'game on'?According to itv it is
What's happened? Is it.... 'game on'?they scored but it was off side.
Adrian Baggybastard just said it is not all over by any means.followed by 'all hale, Gareth Bale'. Cringeworthy!
What a whore.
Lovely Cristiano Ronaldo who I always liked scores from a goalkeeping howler by Gomes.
ITV were so upset they went through the first stage of bereavment... denial. They flashed up the score "TOTTENHAM 1 REAL MADRID 0".
Yeah, you wish Clive!
From BBC From Phil, Chelmsford, on text: "As a Spurs fan of 25 years nothing has made me smile more than Gareth Bale in this season's Champions League. Mesmerising."
Vomit
Can't believe the FA are dragging 2 teams down from Manchester to Wembley for the Semi at 17:15 on a sat afternoon
Joke
Surprised that Childs and Co did not play out with this:I half expected to hear the funereal bells that signalled the start of our second half last weekend
Can't believe the FA are dragging 2 teams down from Manchester to Wembley for the Semi at 17:15 on a sat afternoon
Joke
What a pleasant journey down the M1 for Villa fans on Saturday. If you're going, best start out now.
A friend thinks all this bollocks "it's not over yet" commentary is strings being pulled by the online betting sponsors.
My future brother-in-law sets odds online during games, and the company he works for loves English gamblers as we tend to vote with our allegiances and hatreds rather than logic.
Can't believe the FA are dragging 2 teams down from Manchester to Wembley for the Semi at 17:15 on a sat afternoon
Joke
What a pleasant journey down the M1 for Villa fans on Saturday. If you're going, best start out now.
cant think of many grounds worse than west ham to get to? Charlton and Palace possibly
I really found it difficult listening. As Damon pointed out there was no sense of reality in anything that was said, everything was positive. It was like listening to reports about England back in the 80's before they'd kicked a ball before a tournament started.
Was there a mention of Spurs playing in the UEFA cup next season? I didn't here one.
Have spurs won yet?
shat! Beat me to it.Have spurs won yet?
Spurs were the moral victors.
Signed
The Nation.
shat! Beat me to it.Have spurs won yet?
Spurs were the moral victors.
Signed
The Nation.
Have spurs won yet?
Spurs were the moral victors.
Signed
The Nation.
It's a sad state of affairs when for the second time in a few days i'm hoping Newton Heath win a big cup game.
They appear to have shown more pictures of Rooney sitting on the bench than they have of the game.
I fancy Balotelly to do something astoundingly stupid and get sent off.
They appear to have shown more pictures of Rooney sitting on the bench than they have of the game.
I fancy Balotelly to do something astoundingly stupid and get sent off.
if it stays like this a different name will be on the cup for the first time in years - Pompey in 2008 excepted. A pity it has to be moneybags City but rather them than Man Yoo winning another bloody double.
if it stays like this a different name will be on the cup for the first time in years - Pompey in 2008 excepted. A pity it has to be moneybags City but rather them than Man Yoo winning another bloody double.
Why does it have to be City? Why not Stoke or Bolton? Personally, of the 4 semi finalists i'm throwing my lot behind Stoke.
You want Stoke to win the FA Cup? Is this real life?if it stays like this a different name will be on the cup for the first time in years - Pompey in 2008 excepted. A pity it has to be moneybags City but rather them than Man Yoo winning another bloody double.
Why does it have to be City? Why not Stoke or Bolton? Personally, of the 4 semi finalists i'm throwing my lot behind Stoke.
if it stays like this a different name will be on the cup for the first time in years - Pompey in 2008 excepted. A pity it has to be moneybags City but rather them than Man Yoo winning another bloody double.
Why does it have to be City? Why not Stoke or Bolton? Personally, of the 4 semi finalists i'm throwing my lot behind Stoke.
You want Stoke to win the FA Cup? Is this real life?if it stays like this a different name will be on the cup for the first time in years - Pompey in 2008 excepted. A pity it has to be moneybags City but rather them than Man Yoo winning another bloody double.
Why does it have to be City? Why not Stoke or Bolton? Personally, of the 4 semi finalists i'm throwing my lot behind Stoke.
Urgh. Stoke. After Blose they're probably one of the most dislikable teams for me. Dirty tactics, dirty players, no skill, scummy fans, idiot manager.
Bolton all the way tomorrow.
Yeah but we did get lucky against Bolton in 2000 - Holdsworths miss!!!
I'm not fussed about who wins the Manchester semi final but it will really piss off the red scum to lose to their neighbours....yep despite all the reasons we've got to wish ill on the nouveau riche from Eastlands - Barry, Milner etc etc etc- 40 years of triumphalism from "The World's Greatest Football Club" means that I have to delight when they take a fall. I'm a veteran at this, I willed Benfica on in the 1968 EC Final.......
Great to see James Milner's contribution at the end there - helping Balotelli with his cramp. Can't see him sticking around there for long
Balotelli winding up ferdinand, rio will be running to his phone so he can twitter it, twat!
Now a big Barca win to end the perfect day...
I can't recall the last time Man U were that shit. Someone should tell the Man City players that they still have to play one more game. I hope Bolton can get to the final and beat them.
Looks like I'm a loan voice on here, but I'm gutted that Citeh won.
Once upon a time I would have been delighted for them, but then they came into the money and have become arrogant and dismissive of other clubs and their supporters. They will now be intolerable for next few weeks; insufferable if they actually win the thing.
United, on the other hand, are so successful, I'm now immured to their supporters' bragging.
Did it finish 1-1 in Spain?
Trying to find out on SSN now but Millie Clode's on and I can't concentrate on what she's saying.
Did it finish 1-1 in Spain?
Trying to find out on SSN now but Millie Clode's on and I can't concentrate on what she's saying.
It did indeed.
Looks like I'm a loan voice on here, but I'm gutted that Citeh won.
Once upon a time I would have been delighted for them, but then they came into the money and have become arrogant and dismissive of other clubs and their supporters. They will now be intolerable for next few weeks; insufferable if they actually win the thing.
United, on the other hand, are so successful, I'm now immured to their supporters' bragging.
You're not a lone voice. I agree. Don't want City to win a thing.
Just watching SHA v Sunderland.
Sunderland played some decent stuff and created some good chances, but do you know what they miss? A top quality goal scorer.
Teehee.
Just in case anyone wants to know where my allegiance lies today...COME ON BOLTON!
Looks like I'm a loan voice on here, but I'm gutted that Citeh won.
Once upon a time I would have been delighted for them, but then they came into the money and have become arrogant and dismissive of other clubs and their supporters. They will now be intolerable for next few weeks; insufferable if they actually win the thing.
United, on the other hand, are so successful, I'm now immured to their supporters' bragging.
You're not a lone voice. I agree. Don't want City to win a thing.
Would much sooner see United than City winning things. One has built on a phenomenal history and is still bringing players through etc, the other is simply buying and bombing out if not getting the desired effect. Not a massive fan of either, but United deserve respect, Citeh are just orrible.
I'm very pleased for the City supporters I know who have put up with shitloads of bad things for years.
Spot on.I'm very pleased for the City supporters I know who have put up with shitloads of bad things for years.
I think most people would be open to feeling the same way for genuine fans who seen some of the dark days. It's the ones who suddenly emerge like they've been there all along with a sense of entitlement and just rub it in your face that bothers people. It happened to Chelsea, and it's happening with Man City. I'm sure there are Man City fans who are appalled by some of things they see and read from their new fans. I dare say if it had happened to us, there would have been a lot of new Villa fans doing exactly the same.
Just watching SHA v Sunderland.
Sunderland played some decent stuff and created some good chances, but do you know what they miss? A top quality goal scorer.
Teehee.
Just before Gabby scored yesterday I was ranting on about how much easier it is to be a Small Heath fan. They seem to fluke positive results and blunder through even though the evidence shows them to have had a hiding. MOTD's highlights illustrated that rant rather well, I thought.
Bollocks. Guess I will be supporting Man City in the Final then. Blues and Stoke in Europe. Oh dear.
Will it mean they'll ease up against us next week?
Normally players are scared of getting injured and missing the final.
My Stoke supporting neighbour will be tumescent for weeks. His poor wife
Only another 5 to go Stoke.
Dear Bolton, shove those fucking flags you run along the touchlines with where the sun don't shine!
Carragher took a very nasty bang to the head from Flanagan (no I don't know him either) and was out cold before he hit the ground, big delay in this game.
Carragher took a very nasty bang to the head from Flanagan (no I don't know him either) and was out cold before he hit the ground, big delay in this game.
Helen Flanagan, plays Dozy Rosie in Corrie, her with the tumescent funbags.
Make that 5 times.
Carragher took a very nasty bang to the head from Flanagan (no I don't know him either) and was out cold before he hit the ground, big delay in this game.
Helen Flanagan, plays Dozy Rosie in Corrie, her with the tumescent funbags.
I'd take a bang to anywhere from her.
Damn, cannot believe what's happened to Bolton.
It must be so depressing being a Bolton fan now.
Is the first time Bolton have been to Wembley since Holdsworth missed a sitter in Extra Time against us and we won on penalties? Or did they win a League Cup with Fat Sam?
Damn, cannot believe what's happened to Bolton.
It must be so depressing being a Bolton fan now.
I wanted Arsenal to win as it helps us a little...
Commanding performance from Gary Cahill.
what an incredible finish to the Arsenal-Liverpool game. Wenger you complete and utter tosser. It was a clear penalty because Eboue was incredibly clumsy. But Wenger wouldn't even shake Dalglish's hand and Dalglish told him to piss off. I wanted Arsenal to win as it helps us a little, but I really do not like that poor sport Wenger.
not seen any of it, why so much extra time?
I wanted Arsenal to win as it helps us a little...
Does it? If they keep dropping points, by the time we play them they'll be out of the title race.
what an incredible finish to the Arsenal-Liverpool game. Wenger you complete and utter tosser. It was a clear penalty because Eboue was incredibly clumsy. But Wenger wouldn't even shake Dalglish's hand and Dalglish told him to piss off. I wanted Arsenal to win as it helps us a little, but I really do not like that poor sport Wenger.
I think Wenger might well have been asking where the extra time came from. 8 mins were on the board. Arsenal scored on the 7th of them and Liverpool scored on the 12th of them with the ref blowing up straight after without even a KO which I thought was a requirement after any goal.
Kenny's reaction was funny but I would have preferred an Arse win to:-
A) Make the run in at the top slightly interesting.
B) Leave Liverpool closer to us just in case we have a good run at the end.
Out of interest, who was the ref?
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Out of interest, who was the ref?
Andre Marriner
Out of interest, who was the ref?
Andre Marriner
I've heard the name but i'm not familar with him. Is this another F.A Stuart Atwell type fast track ref or is he normaly decent but his watch magically gained 4 minutes?
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A couple of things regarding those 'big' weekend games...
Fergie in the stands, Rooney banned and looking on from the bench and Scholes sent off....how does that song go "We're Man utd we'll do what we want" I think it is....yeah, course you will.
Arsenal looking average, Wenger seething at the injustice of the penalty against them, then Dalgleish who had earlier been hyped up to get a knighthood earlier by the commentary team telling Wenger to "piss off". Wonder if he'll get a ban.
Not exactly, He had a big grin and went up to Wenger to offer his hand, Wenger did his impression of Jesus on the cross and must have said something not very nice, in fact it was clearly enough to remove the grin and bring on the expletive by Sir King Kenny.
Damn, cannot believe what's happened to Bolton.
It must be so depressing being a Bolton fan now.
Damn, cannot believe what's happened to Bolton.
It must be so depressing being a Bolton fan now.
Especially if you're this chap...
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/15042011/58/fa-cup-bolton-fan-quits-job-watch-cup-semi.html
"It was a penalty! Ah pees off..."
Damn, cannot believe what's happened to Bolton.
It must be so depressing being a Bolton fan now.
Especially if you're this chap...
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/15042011/58/fa-cup-bolton-fan-quits-job-watch-cup-semi.html
Blimey he goes half way round the world to see his team lose 5-0, ouch
Was RVP yellow carded for taking his top off after scoring?
Look like KD was the one not wanting to shake hands rather than AW at least AW walked over to him.
Oh, and congrats to Stoke! Happy for em and hope they go all the way and lift the trophy.
Andre is a good ref and a good bloke...Also he is one of us!Out of interest, who was the ref?
Andre Marriner
I've heard the name but i'm not familar with him. Is this another F.A Stuart Atwell type fast track ref or is he normaly decent but his watch magically gained 4 minutes?
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I'm backing Stoke.
Nine words for those backing Citeh.Jimmy will be more than likely be on the bench for the final.I wonder how that medal will feel if they win if he's played very little part
Stephen Ireland was part of the James Milner deal
Nine words for those backing Citeh.Jimmy will be more than likely be on the bench for the final.I wonder how that medal will feel if they win if he's played very little part
Stephen Ireland was part of the James Milner deal
Nine words for those backing Citeh.Jimmy will be more than likely be on the bench for the final.I wonder how that medal will feel if they win if he's played very little part
Stephen Ireland was part of the James Milner deal
Christ on a bike, caring for ''Jimmy's'' feelings...why are so many of us acting like a girl whose fella has dumped her for someone with more money, a better car and hair and hoping against hope that he'll miss the simple pleasures he enjoyed with us? He made his bed, let the bastard son of Lee Evans rot in it.
I detest Manure, but I hope they beat Newcastle for us tomorrow.Stephen Ireland in the squad for tomorrow should be interesting
its a toughie. Ireland plays and wins the game single-handedly for them = helps Newcastle but more likely to buy him.. Ireland plays and is his usual bobbins = we get him back.
Can I just say that Robbie Savage was superb tonight, he man marked Taraabt and eventually caused him to run off in a total strop.
Can I just say that Robbie Savage was superb tonight, he man marked Taraabt and eventually caused him to run off in a total strop.
He was fantastic, and all the time he had the biggest grin on his face imaginable. Also made me laugh when he was singing along to the song the QPR fans were singing about him too!
Looks a good final to me. Citeh i wouldn't mind winning because it will put a large section of the franchise mancs into mourning. Downside is the citeh fans will get up themselves and regard this as proof of "arriving". Stoke, i don't really care much about them. Proper club, be funny if they beat the billionaires.. Downside is they seem to be claiming getting to the final, means they're a footballing side. *points at LC winners*
It's only been in the last couple of Man Utd games that I've noticed just how fucking shit Carrick really is. They do seem to have their fair share of shit/average players amongst the world class (I'm looking at you O'Shea, Carrick & Brown).
OK a quick quiz:
Who is the only player in the history of Sky Premier League to make his debut for two different clubs at the same ground?
I've been saying Carrick is spectacularly shit for years now.'
He's getting even worse with time.
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
My God, you are a moron.
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
My God, you are a moron.
is that necessary ??
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
My God, you are a moron.
is that necessary ??
No, of course not. You dont have to be a moron.
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
My God, you are a moron.
is that necessary ??
No, of course not. You dont have to be a moron.
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
My God, you are a moron.
is that necessary ??
No, of course not. You dont have to be a moron.
Man United boss Sir Alex Ferguson: "Clear penalty on Hernandez. It's an insult because he's booked him. The referee has had a good game, but he's let himself down by booking him."
Surely another ban?
Anybody tell us how Ireland played, I heard he had a good shot but hopefully he does enough up there and they like him enough to buy him?
Yes, Man Utd might be doing so well because of all those top class players they have apart from Anderson and Carrick, who are fucking shite.
Case in point:
In the match I've just watched, Carrick, in acres of space, actually moved towards a Newcastle player and passed to a team mate who was marked by him.
It's this level of footballing genius that marks him out as a legend.
Man Utd are much better than we are, but if that gormless shitehawk ever looked like darkening our doors I would be horrified.
Michael Carrick. Man Utd being successful.
Two very different things.
I'm not going to dig out Carricks stats, but to call him crap is churlish and makes you look like an envious green eyed monster. Bottom line is, you don't play under SAF for this long without being a class act
I agree wholeheartedly, Carrick is gashness personified.
I agree wholeheartedly, Carrick is gashness personified.
He's so gash his missus wears Laura Gashley dresses, he heats his house with British Gash and his favourite comic is the Gash Street Kids.
Why should we care about the merits of their midfield players? Do we have the same discussions about Wigan's midfield (for example)? At the end of the day they're going to win the league again, they're prob going to get to CL final again so criticising their alleged weak links is irrelevant. To us and them.
You can criticise as much as you like, just makes you look small time and silly when they are sitting on the verge of another medal haul in the PL and possibly CL
Like i said, you dont play under SAF for that long by being crap, average or only good.
You can criticise as much as you like, just makes you look small time and silly when they are sitting on the verge of another medal haul in the PL and possibly CL
Like i said, you dont play under SAF for that long by being crap, average or only good.
Barcelona V Real Madrid in the Copa Del Rey Final tonight. They're beginning to play each other as often as the Old Firm.
Should be a good game.
Barcelona V Real Madrid in the Copa Del Rey Final tonight. They're beginning to play each other as often as the Old Firm.
Should be a good game.
It's probably the least important out of the 4 games they play in this group of fixtures, interesting to see what teams they will put out - they won't risk injuries for the UCL games, but then again neither will want to lose to the other.
Still more interesting watching the Narf Landon match.
Barcelona V Real Madrid in the Copa Del Rey Final tonight. They're beginning to play each other as often as the Old Firm.
Should be a good game.
It's probably the least important out of the 4 games they play in this group of fixtures, interesting to see what teams they will put out - they won't risk injuries for the UCL games, but then again neither will want to lose to the other.
Still more interesting watching the Narf Landon match.
Wenger being interviewed by CNN before the Spurs game has said that each year it is harder and harder to get into the Champions League and that next season Liverpool will be trying to gain a spot as well as Aston Villa!!!!
Or he knows potential when he sees it 8)Wenger being interviewed by CNN before the Spurs game has said that each year it is harder and harder to get into the Champions League and that next season Liverpool will be trying to gain a spot as well as Aston Villa!!!!
The man is officially off his rocker
Birmingham won the first game vs Chelsea this season 1-0, despite having only one shot to Chelsea's 27. Ben Foster made nine saves and Birmingham players cleared four shots off the line.
1-0 already. Malouda.
I also wonder what the hell Anderson is doing there, what is so special about him? He puts himself about a bit but that's pretty much it. Just because he has a Brazilian passport doesn't automatically make him good. He's a lower pecking order squad player at best.
so shit he's at the heart of a team top of The PL (again) & in a CL semi (again)
er yeah ok
My God, you are a moron.
is that necessary ??
No, of course not. You dont have to be a moron.
Class :)
Sky cameramen are on fire, lots of close ups of Wilshire and Bale
Does a Wednesday night in get any better ?
Couldn't care less as I hate both teams. Watching Barca v Real instead.
Couldn't care less as I hate both teams. Watching Barca v Real instead.
Any score?
Any one know the score at the Bridge?
Never a pen lennon ran in to him then fell over. But there always given these days.
Never a pen lennon ran in to him then fell over. But there always given these days.
It was shocking goalkeeping, he allowed Lennon to buy the penalty.
Chelsea 3-1 Birmingham (Larsson penalty)
Chelsea 3-1 Birmingham (Larsson penalty)
Fucking hell, they must have brought Torres on.
Chelsea 3-1 Birmingham (Larsson penalty)
Fucking hell, they must have brought Torres on.
They did 67th minute :)
Is bringing Bendtner on to spice up the attack the equivalent of Bringing Heskey on with 10 mins to go? Whatever happened to Chamakh?
I have to say, this Norwuf Landon derby has been a wonderful game.
I have to say, this Norwuf Landon derby has been a wonderful game.
I have to say, this Norwuf Landon derby has been a wonderful game.
It has indeed. Much better than Barca Madrid.
I have to say, this Norwuf Landon derby has been a wonderful game.
It has indeed. Much better than Barca Madrid.
Any score yet?
I have to say, this Norwuf Landon derby has been a wonderful game.
It has indeed. Much better than Barca Madrid.
Any score yet?
If the CL games are anything like the last two meetings between these two they will be some of the worst games this year.
Mourihno is itching to get back to the PL
Could be interesting
Mourihno is itching to get back to the PL
Could be interesting
Mourihno is itching to get back to the PL
Could be interesting
Only because only three leagues could afford him, and only one of those that most of the press pack love him still.
I was in chavaluf when Spain won the Euro's and it was fucking crazy too.Mourihno is itching to get back to the PL
Could be interesting
Only because only three leagues could afford him, and only one of those that most of the press pack love him still.
I hate the way the whole of Spain seems to support either Barca or Real Madrid. It's a bit like the Old Firm in Scotland. I can't hear myself think for the sound of beeping horns and cheering outside my flat and I am in Mallorca! It would've been exactly the same had Barca won. Had Real Mallorca won the cup though I guess it'd be quite as a mouse.
I was in chavaluf when Spain won the Euro's and it was fucking crazy too.Mourihno is itching to get back to the PL
Could be interesting
Only because only three leagues could afford him, and only one of those that most of the press pack love him still.
I hate the way the whole of Spain seems to support either Barca or Real Madrid. It's a bit like the Old Firm in Scotland. I can't hear myself think for the sound of beeping horns and cheering outside my flat and I am in Mallorca! It would've been exactly the same had Barca won. Had Real Mallorca won the cup though I guess it'd be quite as a mouse.
Can I use the phrase 'small time' to denote a period spent thinking about Gladstone Small?
As in: 'don't disturb your father. He's having a bit of Small time'
Can I use the phrase 'small time' to denote a period spent thinking about Gladstone Small?
As in: 'don't disturb your father. He's having a bit of Small time'
No. As a Villa fan you are only allowed to use the phrase 'small time' to denote a period spent thinking about Bryan Small. I know this because I once used the phrase to denote a period thinking about Heather Small (of Hot House and M People fame) and the mods told me off.
Anyone know how much per season Nike pay us?
Spurs' new deal is £10m per season and Liverpool's is £25m per season.
I think it would be much less than even that.
Anyone know WTF are Warrior Sports?
Lambert has done an amazing job at Norwich, they've had a fantastic season, annihilated there local rivals last nite too.Who are their stand-out players?
To be honest i've only saw two of their games this season and a few highlights on the football league show, Holt looks like a beast at that level and Hoolahan looks decent, nobody majorly stands out though, I guess they play well as a unit.Lambert has done an amazing job at Norwich, they've had a fantastic season, annihilated there local rivals last nite too.Who are their stand-out players?
I heard they've been doing well this season after getting promoted... I only thought they were in a playoff spot at best. The manager has done a really good job. I still think Cardiff will get second spot though...
OK thanks I'll keep a look-out... the playoffs and who gets the 2nd promotion spot is shaping up for some exciting viewing.To be honest i've only saw two of their games this season and a few highlights on the football league show, Holt looks like a beast at that level and Hoolahan looks decent, nobody majorly stands out though, I guess they play well as a unit.Lambert has done an amazing job at Norwich, they've had a fantastic season, annihilated there local rivals last nite too.Who are their stand-out players?
I heard they've been doing well this season after getting promoted... I only thought they were in a playoff spot at best. The manager has done a really good job. I still think Cardiff will get second spot though...
Urgh, hopefully dirty scummy leeds don't make the playoffs. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO I WANT THOSE SCUMBAGS ANYWHERE NEAR THE PREMIER LEAGUE.
At the third stroke, the time sponsored by Small Heath FC will be five past Foster, precisely.
Torres has finally scored.
Torres has finally scored.Shamefully Sky had it as "breaking news".
Valencia 0 Fascists 4
And it is not even half time yet.
Valencia 0 Fascists 4
And it is not even half time yet.
0-5 now.
RVP sets a new PL record thenWhat record has he set?
He's scored in 7 consecutive PL away gamesRVP sets a new PL record thenWhat record has he set?
Bolton luck.... I think they paid up last Sunday.
Merse: "It's well over. Its all a bit ground hog day".
Merse: "It's well over. Its all a bit ground hog day".
Not as good as Kevin Phillips saying "it was heading for the bottom hand corner".
2-1 Bolton!
Arsenal are fucked. Up yours Wenger you arrogant, blind tosser.
2-1 Bolton!
Arsenal are fucked. Up yours Wenger you arrogant, blind tosser.
Why not this vitriol to, say Ancellottie when Chelseas have f@cked up this season? I have a lot of time for Wenger particularly when he faces up to Ferguson when the rest of the world cower or kiss his ass. Yes he's a bad loser but thats what makes him a winner in some ways. Its clear, despite statements to the contrary, Arsenal don't have money to spend if they want to balance the books and pay off the debt on the new ground. In the circumstances they're doing well to be where they are in my view.
Why not this vitriol to, say Ancellottie when Chelseas have f@cked up this season? I have a lot of time for Wenger particularly when he faces up to Ferguson when the rest of the world cower or kiss his ass. Yes he's a bad loser but thats what makes him a winner in some ways. Its clear, despite statements to the contrary, Arsenal don't have money to spend if they want to balance the books and pay off the debt on the new ground. In the circumstances they're doing well to be where they are in my view.
Why not this vitriol to, say Ancellottie when Chelseas have f@cked up this season? I have a lot of time for Wenger particularly when he faces up to Ferguson when the rest of the world cower or kiss his ass. Yes he's a bad loser but thats what makes him a winner in some ways. Its clear, despite statements to the contrary, Arsenal don't have money to spend if they want to balance the books and pay off the debt on the new ground. In the circumstances they're doing well to be where they are in my view.
Not for the last 6 years it hasn't. It's just made him a myopic arse whose team has been found wanting in the run in too many times to count now. Plus they let Blues win a cup.
This year's Premiership is the only known example of a 0-horse race
Pedantic but they have taken 4 points from us. 1-1 at VP and a very lucky 3-2 for them at whatever stadium.Bolton luck.... I think they paid up last Sunday.
They've taken 6 points against us and Arsenal where they should have got 0.
Why not this vitriol to, say Ancellottie when Chelseas have f@cked up this season? I have a lot of time for Wenger particularly when he faces up to Ferguson when the rest of the world cower or kiss his ass. Yes he's a bad loser but thats what makes him a winner in some ways. Its clear, despite statements to the contrary, Arsenal don't have money to spend if they want to balance the books and pay off the debt on the new ground. In the circumstances they're doing well to be where they are in my view.
Not for the last 6 years it hasn't. It's just made him a myopic arse whose team has been found wanting in the run in too many times to count now. Plus they let Blues win a cup.
The very way they refuse to take responsibility for their own shortcomings and blame everyone else, is their achilles heel.
They were lucky as Hell against us at their ground... but they deserved to beat us at Villa Park.Wasn't what I'd call luck, more us missing 3 or 4 gilt edged chances and then being unable to hang on against a resilient Bolton comeback
Is that Luke Moore who just scored for Swansea ?
With Norwich only drawing, QPR are about 10 mins away from getting back into PL
I for one am happy they're up as its always an easy away game to get to
from BBC
1656: QPR ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE
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1656: QPR ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE
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1656: QPR ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE
Unless they get deducted points next month.
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1656: QPR ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE
Unless they get deducted points next month.
for what ?
Signing a player who was owned by "a third party" which after the Tevez, Mascherano affair was made illegal by the Football/Prem leaguefrom BBC
1656: QPR ARE PROMOTED TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE
Unless they get deducted points next month.
for what ?
what are they looking at ? 10 pts deduction ?
Christ, imagine if both Millwall & Cardiff come up !!Leeds have faded away
Please lord Mcgrath no
A pretty monumental fuck-up between the FA and the Football League by all accounts. This has been dragging on all season but they leave it til next week to hold a hearing with just one game of the season to go. Having said that, Warnock was on the arse end of the West Ham ruling so he should know all about ineligible players - and if QPR have messed up on this they'd only have themselves to blame.what are they looking at ? 10 pts deduction ?
Enough to put them into the play offs apparantley. Whether it will come to that, who knows.
Milner bench again, what a waste
Milner bench again, what a waste
Yip. But thats greed for you.
I'm sure the thickness of the wad of dosh in his arse pocket will cushion his bum from the splinters that he might otherwise gather from his time on the subs' bench.and the cup winners medal possibly heading his way and the thought of champions league football next season
I'm sure the thickness of the wad of dosh in his arse pocket will cushion his bum from the splinters that he might otherwise gather from his time on the subs' bench.and the cup winners medal possibly heading his way and the thought of champions league football next season
and the cup winners medal possibly heading his way and the thought of champions league football next season
He wont be soldand the cup winners medal possibly heading his way and the thought of champions league football next season
Why? Is he being sold to Galatasaray or Olympiakos? Because if Citeh make CL and the amount of game time he has had this season, he will be one of the ones replaced with other players.
Depends on who the manager is and whether he likes him or not. They might not want to sell to a rival... we are probably the most attractive of the clubs that they wouldn't consider a rival.If Mancini qualifies for the CL and wins the FA Cup he is going no where and do you really think we can afford to pay £20m+ for Milner.....never gonna happen
He wont be soldand the cup winners medal possibly heading his way and the thought of champions league football next season
Why? Is he being sold to Galatasaray or Olympiakos? Because if Citeh make CL and the amount of game time he has had this season, he will be one of the ones replaced with other players.
Depends on who the manager is and whether he likes him or not. They might not want to sell to a rival... we are probably the most attractive of the clubs that they wouldn't consider a rival.If Mancini qualifies for the CL and wins the FA Cup he is going no where and do you really think we can afford to pay £20m+ for Milner.....never gonna happen
Can you name any of these "better English players" that City might want ?? If they do want to sell him he will only go to United, Arsenal, Chelsea and will play Champs league for them anywayHe will be if they decide to get better "home grown" players and he is not named in the 25 man squad.He wont be soldand the cup winners medal possibly heading his way and the thought of champions league football next seasonWhy? Is he being sold to Galatasaray or Olympiakos? Because if Citeh make CL and the amount of game time he has had this season, he will be one of the ones replaced with other players.
Except that Man City don't sell players to the clubs you've mentioned.Can Galatasaray or Olympiakos afford a 30m Euro fee for him ???
Can you name any of these "better English players" that City might want ?? If they do want to sell him he will only go to United, Arsenal, Chelsea and will play Champs league for them anyway
Except that Man City don't sell players to the clubs you've mentioned.Can Galatasaray or Olympiakos afford a 30m Euro fee for him ???
I think your right about that but I think Liverpool, Spurs may be interested as well and Milner may see them as more attractive alternatives and would he take a possible 50% cut in his wages ??Except that Man City don't sell players to the clubs you've mentioned.Can Galatasaray or Olympiakos afford a 30m Euro fee for him ???
I think Man City would rather sell him for £20 million to a club like Villa than sell him for £30 million to a club like Man U, who they see as rivals. The money is pretty much irrelevant to them.
I think Man City would see Liverpool and Spurs as rivals too, and refuse to sell to them either.No mate its not good, City have gone off the boil and Blackburn may sneak one
Anyway, has the game been any good? I'm watching the snooker.
I think Man City would see Liverpool and Spurs as rivals too, and refuse to sell to them either.No mate its not good, City have gone off the boil and Blackburn may sneak one
Anyway, has the game been any good? I'm watching the snooker.
Is Ronnie winning
So Chelsea are gonna sell Cole and Terry and Arsenal Fabregas and Wilshire to Man City not in a million years ???
I could see Spurs selling Bale to them if City offered them silly money (which they may), I cant see Ash, Downing going there as Milner is better than them and I think if City wanted Bent they would have bought him in Jan instead of Dzeko
How do you do that think where it goes as a 'Spoiler'?
Sorry mate you have lost me.........
The kid Phil Jones for Blackburn looks a good prospectHe is class. Started the season brilli9antly before suffering a serious injury and has only recently returned. He is Blackburns best player by a mile and the only one of their players I would take off their hands. He was linked with all the big clubs earlier in the season though. I reckon he would cost 15mil+ if we wanted to sign him.
So Chelsea are gonna sell Cole and Terry and Arsenal Fabregas and Wilshire to Man City not in a million years ???
I could see Spurs selling Bale to them if City offered them silly money (which they may), I cant see Ash, Downing going there as Milner is better than them and I think if City wanted Bent they would have bought him in Jan instead of Dzeko
Terry is in desperate financial straights
I'm chuffed that Dzeko scored his first league goal for Citeh. A reminder of yet another signing-miles-better-than-Darren-Bent who turns out to be a bit shit compared to Darren Bent.
The kid Phil Jones for Blackburn looks a good prospectHe is class. Started the season brilli9antly before suffering a serious injury and has only recently returned. He is Blackburns best player by a mile and the only one of their players I would take off their hands. He was linked with all the big clubs earlier in the season though. I reckon he would cost 15mil+ if we wanted to sign him.
Whats happend to Warnock and Beye playing for the reserves??
Re Terry's finances from Feb 2010 -
Re Terry's finances from Feb 2010 -
Interesting interlude WikiVilla! or is there a reason for resurrecting this one?
Manuel Neuer looks an outstanding goalkeeper
Manuel Neuer looks an outstanding goalkeeperSign him up, great save from giggs just
Manuel Neuer looks an outstanding goalkeeperSign him up, great save from giggs just
He is getting plenty of practice............Bayern-bound.Manuel Neuer looks an outstanding goalkeeperSign him up, great save from giggs just
Stoke City 2-0 Wolves (Shawcross)
Stoke City 2-0 Wolves (Shawcross)Balls
Stoke City 2-0 Wolves (Shawcross)Balls
Man United are getting so many chances here and not taking them that Schalke are bound to have one shot and win this matchHopefully
Oh god this is annoying, they've pretty much won the tie now.Just look forward to them being torn a new one in the final
Oh god this is annoying, they've pretty much won the tie now.Just look forward to them being torn a new one in the final
Inter must have been shockingly bad to have got torn a new arsehole by this rabble. What on earth are they doing this far in the competition?
Oh god this is annoying, they've pretty much won the tie now.Just look forward to them being torn a new one in the final
Oh, yes!
Schalke must be the worst team ever to make a European Cup Semi-Final. Except for Liverpool.
Only Mourinhio can stop Utd now
I've been impressed with McLaren tonightAgreed he made his points well. Clearly putting himself in the shop window - what price he rocks up at say West Ham next season?
Only Mourinhio can stop Utd now
You having a laugh?
Barcelona will beat them, comfortably. Again.
Didn't Real win the Cup the other day ??Didn't Ramos drop the Cup the same day??
Lets hope Fulham don't win tonight as that would see them leapfrog us and we may start having a look over our shoulders again
Draw would be ideal
Only on the basis we've slipped a couple of places this week and if we lost at Albion (which I don't think we will btw) then Wigan could be a nervy affair.
Obviously Albion think they're going to smash us on Saturday
The nightmare scenario : shitloads of suspensions so Man U play against a reserve team in the Final.
Pepe sent off. It was a foot up challenge at speed so seems a fair decision to me. No need for all the theatrics though.
Obviously RM now have a reason to not play any football
How did Pedro break his leg trying to head that ball?
How did Pedro break his leg trying to head that ball?
I've switched over to Terminator Salvationthe little guy has scored
Is it still 0-0
No, the divers are beating the facists 1-0.
Both these teams can fuck off. Especially Barcelona. Sickening display of childish petulance and playacting.
A real pity because if they all decided to man up and play it would be great to watch. But they wont, so I wont.
Soon the debate will be Who is the Best player ever, Pele, Maradonna or Messi?
Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
Would've helped if the defenders had bothered!Somebody should have just speared him!
Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
Bit of a difference between a linesman's decision and a deliberate handballAt least England never had any dubious decisions in their favour when they won it...Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
Madrid got what they deserve for their ultra negative display. Good to see football always wins in the end.Agree 100% Mourinho can't win pretty against the best sides.
Bit of a difference between a linesman's decision and a deliberate handballAt least England never had any dubious decisions in their favour when they won it...Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
That was almost other worldly.
Bit of a difference between a linesman's decision and a deliberate handballAt least England never had any dubious decisions in their favour when they won it...Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
Splendid examples then I could start on Ronaldo getting Rooney sent off and Simone feigning injury to get Beckham sent offBit of a difference between a linesman's decision and a deliberate handballAt least England never had any dubious decisions in their favour when they won it...Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
What about deliberately kicking the shit out of Eusebio for 90 minutes in the semi?
Ramsey: "Nobby, you take Eusebio out of the game"
Stiles: "do you mean tonight, or permanently?"
Lovely.
In any case England never complained when Scholes punched the ball in against Poland.
What about deliberately kicking the shit out of Eusebio for 90 minutes in the semi?
Ramsey: "Nobby, you take Eusebio out of the game"
Stiles: "do you mean tonight, or permanently?"
Lovely.
In any case England never complained when Scholes punched the ball in against Poland.
The bit I most enjoyed was seeing Real Madrid play like Aston Villa. We can match up with the best of them after all...
Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
Strachan just said Messi is the best to ever play the game.
Madrid got what they deserve for their ultra negative display. Good to see football always wins in the end.Agree 100% Mourinho can't win pretty against the best sides.
Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.
What about deliberately kicking the shit out of Eusebio for 90 minutes in the semi?
Ramsey: "Nobby, you take Eusebio out of the game"
Stiles: "do you mean tonight, or permanently?"
Lovely.
In any case England never complained when Scholes punched the ball in against Poland.
And what's wrong with that? If you win the game as a result of it, then fair enough. Football is about winning, nothing else. (It's a wonder I still follow the Villa then really...)
Bit of a difference between a linesman's decision and a deliberate handballAt least England never had any dubious decisions in their favour when they won it...Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.One did it by cheating though and I dont mean Pele
....or be on a class A drug.
Agree and you know what I mean with "on his own" about players who have dominated the tournaments like the two mentioned and Zidane.Not Messi till he wins the World Cup on his own as the other two have done.
Pele won it with a very talented team around him, he wasn't on his own although he did stand out in that team. Unfortunately for Messi, Argentina have a weatlh of talented individuals now but I reckon the next world cup he will really shine if they don't have a nutcase manager. Even the last world cup which the BBC just said he did nothing at, he had some tremendous runs and shots but the GK's seem to have blinders against him only or he was very unlucky.
I don't think ant of the London teams have ever won the Peace Cup either!
I don't think ant of the London teams have ever won the Peace Cup either!
Messi is and will go down as one of the best in the history of the game. He is consistently(which I think is the most important thing) sensational.
Last night's game sums up what has been one of the worst seasons of football I can remember. It actually stretches as far back as the World Cup.
World Cup was a massive let down, no cracking games, crap final and semis, no breakthrough stars except maybe Ozil and Muller.
Champions League - boring and predictable, with most ties being decided by the end of the first leg. Notable exceptions the Spurs Inter fiascos and in particular the 2nd leg of Inter - Bayern. True examples of teams going hell for leather for a win but perhaps more pertinently true examples of awful defending.
Then there is the Premier "Best-in-the-World" League....Man Utd are stumbling there way to winning it this year and a player like Darron Gibson will get his hand on a medal. Same old same with the rest of the challengers. Man City have the money and have spent enough to become an exciting prospect but are one of the dullest teams around with a collection of thoroughly unlikeable group of players. Relegation battle is tight and maybe a little exciting, but that is more down to the general lack of quality in the league and all the teams being able to grab points here and there.
It's sadly ironic that there has never been more money in the game and so little quality, excitement and passion. Messi stands alone as the exception. The way players are being pampered from as young as 14 (probably younger), living in this parallel world where they are superstars before they play a first team game has rendered them devoid of the qualities of character that make truely great footballers.
And as for the referrees......... :'(
For all the apparent diving and exaggerating by 'Barcelona' I can only really remember Busquets, Pedro (who doesn't usually) and Alves doing loads of the rolling around stuff. Messi, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Keita, Mascherano even had varying degrees of dignity, but still had some undeniably. As for Real? Well, Mourinho's crying conspiracy again, asking 'why' all his teams end up with 10 men against Barca. Why? Well, because you send them out to literally kick them, that's why. It's your own negative, game-spoiling fault and it's just funny that your tactics come back to bite you quite like that.
Pique is the world's worst waver of imaginary cards. Not last night particularly, but I've noticed it a lot in the past.
Real are worse than Barcelona, but neither team covered themselves in glory last night.
The worst incident was the Barca player (can't remember which) holding his face as if smacked with a cricket bat whilst going to ground, contact having been made nowhere near his face.
Semi protagonists sicken Pulis
Thu, 28 Apr 12:51:54 2011
Stoke boss Tony Pulis has labelled Barcelona and Real Madrid a disgrace for the theatrics that marred Wednesday night's Champions League semi-final clash.
The Catalonians won the first leg 2-0 in the Bernabeu after a tempestuous game that produced red cards for Madrid defender Pepe, coach Jose Mourinho and Barcelona substitute goalkeeper Jose Pinto.
Referee Wolfgang Stark was surrounded by players on numerous occasions after tackles from both sides and Pulis, whose team have received plenty of criticism for their physical style of play, called for action to try to stamp out play acting. He said: "The game was a great disappointment. Both teams spent too long trying to get players booked and sent off. They put enormous pressure on the referee and I thought the attitude of the game from both sides was appalling.
"We get criticised in this country for being physically too competitive. You have a look at that game, and they're the two greatest teams in Spain with great players, players you could only dream of having in your team, and the attitude was a disgrace.
"Nobody will talk about it, they'll talk about challenges sometimes and being over competitive but you won't hear them talking about players rolling around. That German referee was put under so much pressure it was frightening. You're getting fellow professionals trying to con referees to get other fellow professionals sent off.
"Someone has to stand up and say something about it because it's happening in this country as well and it's wrong. It's a competitive game but it's about football. We'll be competitive, but we'll be honest, and there's a difference. Wednesday night was tantamount to trying to cheat referees into making bad decisions and that should not happen."
For all the apparent diving and exaggerating by 'Barcelona' I can only really remember Busquets, Pedro (who doesn't usually) and Alves doing loads of the rolling around stuff. Messi, Xavi, Pique, Puyol, Keita, Mascherano even had varying degrees of dignity, but still had some undeniably. As for Real? Well, Mourinho's crying conspiracy again, asking 'why' all his teams end up with 10 men against Barca. Why? Well, because you send them out to literally kick them, that's why. It's your own negative, game-spoiling fault and it's just funny that your tactics come back to bite you quite like that.
I watched last nights game because Messi was playing, I watch as many Barcalona games as I can if Messi is playing. He is without doubt the best football player I have ever seen and not just because of his ability. He plays the game properly, doesn't, as far as I know, cheat or roll around like he's been shot. He is never angrily in the face of refs at every marginal decision. There's a lot to like about Messi and I'm sure when he leaves John O'Shea on his arse for the umpteenth time in the final I will like him that bit more.I said this to my mate last night. The only player who I didn't see moan at a ref or roll around like a tart was the smallest player on the park, who came in for the worst treatment. He plays the game properly and bloody brilliantly. I believe he could go on to be the greatest ever.
If only Messi could perform like that consistently then he could possibly challenge Bale for the title of best player in the world. It's no good scoring 50 plus goals and creating hundreds of others each season unless you can do it against the likes of WBA, Stoke etc.
I watched last nights game because Messi was playing, I watch as many Barcalona games as I can if Messi is playing. He is without doubt the best football player I have ever seen and not just because of his ability. He plays the game properly, doesn't, as far as I know, cheat or roll around like he's been shot. He is never angrily in the face of refs at every marginal decision.
I watched last nights game because Messi was playing, I watch as many Barcalona games as I can if Messi is playing. He is without doubt the best football player I have ever seen and not just because of his ability. He plays the game properly, doesn't, as far as I know, cheat or roll around like he's been shot. He is never angrily in the face of refs at every marginal decision. There's a lot to like about Messi and I'm sure when he leaves John O'Shea on his arse for the umpteenth time in the final I will like him that bit more.
There was as much cheating in that one game last night as I have season in the entire season at the Villa. That was an horrible disgrace of game from both sides, with one redeeming feature in Messi's goal.
I think Busquets is one of the biggest cheating c***s ever to play the game. I'd pay good money for one 50/50 challenge with that petal.(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2451/busquetst.gif)
Falcao has scored 16 goals in the Europa league this season
I thought some of the antics in the game yesterday were awful, but the amount of nonsense being spouted on Talkshite today is untrue. Of course with the upstanding gentlemen footballers we have in the premier league, we are entitled to turn our noses up at this lot!
I think this video sums it up quite nicely...
I thought some of the antics in the game yesterday were awful, but the amount of nonsense being spouted on Talkshite today is untrue. Of course with the upstanding gentlemen footballers we have in the premier league, we are entitled to turn our noses up at this lot!
I think this video sums it up quite nicely...
It was definitely to Barca's shame that they allowed themselves to be dragged down to Mourinho's level. People have overreacted massively, but there are two things to clear up: Barca don't do that all the time, but Mourinho does. Guardiola will feel a certain sense of disappointment in his players' actions (he's spoken against the cult of exaggeration - and it was exaggeration, not diving, and it looks more embarrassing often), but he will also slightly not care because he's just beaten a man who does nothing but despoil, nullify, harm and manipulate - who's then had the nerve to claim that Barca's success is tainted by some grand conspiracy!
These games have not shown the best of anyone except for Xavi and especially Messi, the only two who consistently played well and the only two who refused to be dragged down to this level (Iniesta might have joined them but he didn't play through injury). Ramos has been a particular disgrace in every Clasico this season - not only sent off for an awful lunge on Messi in the 5-0 (and should have gone yesterday for a forearm smash on the same player), but also guilty of as many histrionics as Busquets. Say what you like about Barca, at least they never just kicked the opposition like half a billion euros' worth of talent decided to yesterday. Mourinho has to leave Spain to rescue this fixture from the gutter.
Again, I agree, the Barca playacting was embarrassing, but it was certainly Real who set the spiralling in motion with their increasingly dirty and physical approach. It is to Barca's shame that they reacted, like a child whining "but he started it", but I suppose when you see tactics and challenges (often unpunished, Jose) like Real have employed this season which vary from game-stopping to potentially leg-breaking you can see where they're coming from. It's that old line that it was understandable but unjustifiable.
Exactly. The key word is 'cheating'. It makes the referee's job near impossible.Again, I agree, the Barca playacting was embarrassing, but it was certainly Real who set the spiralling in motion with their increasingly dirty and physical approach. It is to Barca's shame that they reacted, like a child whining "but he started it", but I suppose when you see tactics and challenges (often unpunished, Jose) like Real have employed this season which vary from game-stopping to potentially leg-breaking you can see where they're coming from. It's that old line that it was understandable but unjustifiable.
I think you forget that football is supposed to be sporting contest. Fouls are part and parcel of the game, the rules are there to deal with it. Cheating en masse as Barcelona did is totally unacceptable in any sport. They are a fucking disgrace and should have the book trown at them.
If Mourinho wants to start looking into videos of cheating, exaggerated simulation and feigning injury I suggests he watches porto in the uefa cup final managed by ...Mourinho. Hypocritical tw@t.
If Mourinho wants to start looking into videos of cheating, exaggerated simulation and feigning injury I suggests he watches porto in the uefa cup final managed by ...Mourinho. Hypocritical tw@t.
I mentioned this game somewhere on here too, the most disgraceful display by a team I've ever seen.
Again, I agree, the Barca playacting was embarrassing, but it was certainly Real who set the spiralling in motion with their increasingly dirty and physical approach. It is to Barca's shame that they reacted, like a child whining "but he started it", but I suppose when you see tactics and challenges (often unpunished, Jose) like Real have employed this season which vary from game-stopping to potentially leg-breaking you can see where they're coming from. It's that old line that it was understandable but unjustifiable.
I think you forget that football is supposed to be sporting contest. Fouls are part and parcel of the game, the rules are there to deal with it. Cheating en masse as Barcelona did is totally unacceptable in any sport. They are a fucking disgrace and should have the book trown at them.
If Mourinho wants to start looking into videos of cheating, exaggerated simulation and feigning injury I suggests he watches porto in the uefa cup final managed by ...Mourinho. Hypocritical tw@t.
I mentioned this game somewhere on here too, the most disgraceful display by a team I've ever seen.
Tim Vickery, Radio 5's South American football bod, used to argue that Brazilian and Portuguese coaches had developed fouling and cheating almost to a science. He said they see it as part of the game, and do not like to see fouls "wasted". Mourinho is nothing if not meticulous in his preparations.
Again, I agree, the Barca playacting was embarrassing, but it was certainly Real who set the spiralling in motion with their increasingly dirty and physical approach. It is to Barca's shame that they reacted, like a child whining "but he started it", but I suppose when you see tactics and challenges (often unpunished, Jose) like Real have employed this season which vary from game-stopping to potentially leg-breaking you can see where they're coming from. It's that old line that it was understandable but unjustifiable.
I think you forget that football is supposed to be sporting contest. Fouls are part and parcel of the game, the rules are there to deal with it. Cheating en masse as Barcelona did is totally unacceptable in any sport. They are a fucking disgrace and should have the book trown at them.
Sorry, that's just nonsense. Why is one form of cheating deemed 'part and parcel of the game' by you (namely, deliberate fouling ranging from the niggly and annoying to the downright dangerous), called part of a sporting contest despite the screamingly obvious fact that they're called fouls because they are outside of the rules, and another form of cheating is 'a fucking disgrace' and that the perpertrators 'should have the book trown (sic) at them'? Why is it ok for one side to kick but not for the other to play act? Both were at fault equally for the disgrace of that game (though there are two points - one, that whereas a few Barca players didn't play act, every single Madrid player deliberately fouled; and two, the deliberate fouling preceded the play acting by three games). Your notion there is the worst of British, is the reason why Ramsey, Eduardo and so on not only get their legs broken but see all the sympathy go to the leg-breaker ('he's not that sort of player' - what, to put someone else's career on the line through his own stupidity and recklessness?). In the rest of the world, the two sides are seen as equally bad, with Real the initial instigators way back in ancient history. Only the British seem, in the battle of kickers and actors, to side with the kickers.
But generally, unless a ref is really on his game, diving and exaggerating is not punished, in fact it is rewarded with free-kicks and penalties, so which is worse? Fouling that can see you concede free-kicks, penalties and possibly see you lose players, or cheating which is often rewarded?
What if Southport also win?
'Barcelona are cheats'. Nice damning the whole by the part there. 'The laws of the game were not designed to accommodate cheats'. Again - THAT'S WHY PHYSICAL FOULS ARE GIVEN AS FOULS. There are appropriate sanctions for Alves etc's actions, because there are things like yellow cards for diving.
En masse, eh. If to justify this 'en masse' claim you can name any incident from a Barca player OTHER than Pedro, Alves or Busquets which was in any way exceptional I will congratulate your vigilance.
You hope United stuff them. A United team which contains as notorious an actor as Nani, in Rooney a player who has so often dived to gain favour, a manager whose attitude to referees is, oh, fucking definitely within your 'spirit of the game' moral crusade, whose players surround referees as badly and as persistently as anything we've seen from el Clasico. Nice consistent line there. The hypocrisy is unbelievable on this issue.
What if Southport also win?
If Tamworth win they jump above Forest Green and send them down instead. As I say its dog eat dog, non league equivalent of last seasons Sheff W v Palace game.
Tamworth don't have a goalkeeper, one is banned the other injured. The Conference have denied us special dispensation to loan an emergency keeper as we have the 90 year old (or so!) Dale Belford as caretaker manager and he is registered to play although his doctor has warned him not to due to the state of his knees. We're fucked!
Chairman Bob Andrews will be taking up the spare place on the subs bench (we only had three fit substitutes as of last night) in protest.
That sounds ludicrous that the league are saying that.
Best of luck.
I would actually say that deliberate fouling doesn't always get punished. Sure, the obvious ones like a really meaty kick or a professional foul when the opponent is away almost invariably get punished (the key word being 'almost' - I refer the new Man Utd lovers to Mr. Phil Dowd). However, because referees seem to have forgotten the 'booking for repeated fouling' rule, seemingly innocuous but undoubtedly niggly and, crucially in the case of Barca, unfair rhythm-disrupting fouls don't actually get punished by yellow or even red cards. People say that Pepe shouldn't have been sent off, but Real could (and maybe should) have been down to nine anyway. Also, in the case of Busquets, referees are wise to him and generally don't take his word for it if he claims to have been hit.
Their method was thoroughly anti-football, as was Barca's response - but the point is that Barca's was a response. I watch a lot of Barca, and they're never like that. People have been saying the usual 'holier than thou' stuff - "thank God we don't have to watch that every week" (which, incidentally, is probably what Spanish fans say about long balls and dangerous, unpunished lunges) - but the fact is that Barca fans don't have to watch that every week. Alves is just normal - no worse than someone like our Ash - and Pedro is even normally reknowned for staying on his feet. Busquets, I grant you, is rarely pretty to watch (shame really, he's such a good player and yet does all this), but even he turns it up for this big game. In short, the particular damning of Barca is unfair for a few reasons: one, they don't do this all the time so to judge on one game is unfair; two, they did it this time as an admittedly childish response to Real's Zubeldia-like tactics; and three, that they only really had three cheats on the pitch - Real had ten.
Your desperate attempt to justify Barcelona's cheating is almost as sickening as the the performance itself.
Barcelona have no god given right to have games played at their rhythm and it is beholden on the opposition to disrupt them. You insist that referees don't book players for repeated fouls, that's patent nonsense, they do so all the time.
Your justification for Pepe's sending off is pathetic. Pepe was sent off because a Barcelona player chose to pretend he had been fouled, even to the extent of being carried off on a stretcher. The replay shows there was zero contact. That was probably the most important incident in the entire game and it was an act of blatant cheating.
Just out of interest, what do you think would be a fair punishment for Barcelona and their players for cheating their way to a Champions League final? Should we just accept it because in your opinion, the better club won?
Did anyone see the Copa Del Rey?
Madrid were notably doing more of the play acting and referee hounding in that match, along side their aggressive approach. Sid Lowe even commented soon it in the Guardian podcast saying how well drilled Madrid were.
My guess is Barcelona decided to "up" that side of their game too in this most recent match to avoid another defeat.
For me both tactics are equally bad. I'm amazed that the players agree to such antics. Where is their pride? Indeed it's strage how the most fouled player - Messi - rarely dives around.
Paul Hayward in The Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/apr/28/jose-mourinho-real-madrid-tactics
2 - 1 Chelsea...........Kalou
Tamworth survive!Woooooo!
QPR promoted
A newspaper has reported that QPR will be docked 15 points. No idea whether, or how much that will change things.
A newspaper has reported that QPR will be docked 15 points. No idea whether, or how much that will change things.
How likely is that ?
QPR promoted
Not necessarily.
Forest Green stopped up as well
Dingles 1 up ! not sure whether to cheer or not
thisDingles 1 up ! not sure whether to cheer or not
See our position means I can't and that annoys me!
Dingles and noses have resorted to hoof ball.
That'll do.
Does anybody have a stream for the Arsenal Man United game?
Chris Foy now actively helping Manure defend by cutting out a through ball to Walcott.
Foy had a bad 1st half.Expect 2 Manure pens in the 2nd.oh and Vidic is a cheating bastard.Chris Foy now actively helping Manure defend by cutting out a through ball to Walcott.
For the third time, Chris Foy has broken up an Arsenal attack by getting in the way of player and ball.
They might have got that pen had it been any player other than the diving little Welsh shit, but his reputation probably got the better of him.
Really don't want Chelsea to win the league but hopefully this might put the shits up the Man U fans for a week or so.
Manure struggled against a poor mans Barcelona who were missing their best midfielder. Bodes well for the Chumps final. At least this match opens the title up now. Chelsea 3 points behind with a better Goal difference if Chelsea win when they play each other next week.
2-0 inside 15 minutes - West Ham going down with barely a whimper. Citeh must love it when teams in claret and blue come to town.
We have had another lucky week with only one of the teams below us winning, so nothing to grumble about!
However its probably best to save that for when he returns to villa (fingers crossed).
Big games for Norwich & Cardiff today
Hope Cardiff don't come up
Big games for Norwich & Cardiff today
Hope Cardiff don't come up
QPR have been charged with seven regulation breaches and a hearing to determine their fate will take place between 3rd-6th May.
Cardiff lose at home 0 - 3.
1 - 0 Norwich
QPR maybe 4th 2moro if they get deducted 15 points1 - 0 Norwich
QPR up there with Norwich it's like 1993 all over again, maybe we will be runners up next year!!
lets hope soQPR maybe 4th 2moro if they get deducted 15 points1 - 0 Norwich
QPR up there with Norwich it's like 1993 all over again, maybe we will be runners up next year!!
dont u remember budgie gettin the shapened 50's at him there
dont u remember budgie gettin the shapened 50's at him there
Didn't Jimmy Rimmer collect about a tenner in coins from his goalmouth there and donate them to the local kid's home in a great bit of PR?
Good to see Abidal is back on the bench.
Nice game so far.Agreed I am sure that the respective presidents have spoken to their coaches/managers and told them to stop all the
I mean streams
Iniesta is just from another planet. What a wonderful piece of skill.
Are we including the Carvalho yellow card?
If so I'm going for 5 Yellows and 2 Reds (Carvalho and Ronaldo)
Barca yellows don't count. Please refer to Terms & Conditions.Sorry
Not one red card yet how disappointing
Im sure the ref isnt gonna send anyone off
They must get Abidal back in the defence so Puyol can play centre half as Mascherano is useless as a centre half
I see Ronaldo has not only accused Mascherano of cheating (and Ronaldo accusing anybody of cheating is pretty funny), but has claimed he must have learned it at Barca because "he wasn't like this at Liverpool". There are no words for how comically wrong he is.
It's not just bookings / red cards. It was every niggly foul and every 50/50 decision went Barca's way.
It's not just bookings / red cards. It was every niggly foul and every 50/50 decision went Barca's way.
Carvalho could have been sent off more than once and Adebayor was lucky to still be on the pitch at the end so i'd dispute that.
It's not just bookings / red cards. It was every niggly foul and every 50/50 decision went Barca's way.
Carvalho could have been sent off more than once and Adebayor was lucky to still be on the pitch at the end so i'd dispute that.
so would I Chris and what about Alonso and Arbeloa continually fouling ?
CL semi final at Old Trafford and you could hear a pin drop.
CL semi final at Old Trafford and you could hear a pin drop.
Busquets certainly had all the moves
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Peepo!
I wonder what his dad, the great Barca keeper Carles Busquets, must be thinking. Shameful.
Braga 1 Benfica 0, 2-2 on aggregate. Come on Braga.
I see Man Utd have got their 12th man Howard Webb as referee on Sunday.
I wonder what his dad, the great Barca keeper Carles Busquets, must be thinking. Shameful.
"Great Barça keeper Carles Busquets" ... is this a joke?
His tights were nice, granted.
But he was a bit shit! Watch Racing's third goal, minute 1,40.
There were quite a few of these in his short career.
I wonder what his dad, the great Barca keeper Carles Busquets, must be thinking. Shameful.
"Great Barça keeper Carles Busquets" ... is this a joke?
His tights were nice, granted.
But he was a bit shit! Watch Racing's third goal, minute 1,40.
There were quite a few of these in his short career.
Fair enough, I was tired and just wrote a cliche, you got me. Honourable Barca FC family though, and Sergio's hardly living up to that.
Some clubs are going to have to re-shuffle their transfer targets. Looks like Bale could be out for a while.
If I was a spurs fan I would be pissed off with Redknapp. His love affair with Defoe means that they have had to change their successful 4231 into a less successful 442. It's arguably cost them a chumps league place this season and could see them miss out on europe completely.
Come on Blackpool!That's what I want too.
Blose to go down, will only just about make our season bearable (looks like it's spelt incorrectly).
If I was a spurs fan I would be pissed off with Redknapp. His love affair with Defoe means that they have had to change their successful 4231 into a less successful 442. It's arguably cost them a chumps league place this season and could see them miss out on europe completely.
I think Defoe is a player we should try and sign in the close season.
Maybe ask about him if they come sniffing around Ahsley Young.
Defoe, Walker and £5m please.
Well that's just ridiculous. Gomes, what are you thinking?
Bbc says nil nil are Blackpool actually winning?not any more.....
Spurs have been shocking at home against shit teams
A Wolves win 2moro will have SHA sweatingUnfortunaely it appears those neanderthal scum will have that one extra point too many to go down. Had they been on 38 points it'd have them down. They'll need to lose their remainding two to go down and even then it still might be enough for them to stay up.
Spurs have been shocking at home against shit teams
They beat us though.
Spurs have been shocking at home against shit teams
They beat us though.
Our failure to beat them home and away has benefited them.A Wolves win 2moro will have SHA sweatingUnfortunaely it appears those neanderthal scum will have that one extra point too many to go down. Had they been on 38 points it'd have them down.
Our failure to beat them home and away has benefited them.A Wolves win 2moro will have SHA sweatingUnfortunaely it appears those neanderthal scum will have that one extra point too many to go down. Had they been on 38 points it'd have them down.
wolves 2-0 now!
I want us to be safe but a wolves win would put the heat on small heath.
I wouldn't be surprised if Roy got a response from the Baggies players in the 2nd half, 12/1 for the draw might be worth a fiver.
Wolves fans singing "the blackcountrys ours, fuck off to Birmingham, the blackcountrys ours". Quite funny.
I wouldn't be surprised if Roy got a response from the Baggies players in the 2nd half, 12/1 for the draw might be worth a fiver.
Why couldn't WBA have defended as shit as this against us last week?It was 10 each, i refuse to count Pires
*Remembers helpful OG*...oh yeah, they did. And we still lost...with an extra man.
3-0, they're reeling in our goal difference.wolves goal difference is irrelevant to us as they can't finish on 42 points. If they ands both manage 43 we'd both be out of reach of Blackpool and Wigan.
3-0, they're reeling in our goal difference.wolves goal difference is irrelevant to us as they can't finish on 42 points. If they ands both manage 43 we'd both be out of reach of Blackpool and Wigan.
2 - 0 Stoke.......Pennant thanks to a big deflectionUh-oh cue hammering for us next week
I really do expect us to get something next week. They are truly hopeless.
Just got home from watching the wolves game in my local, how bloody shit is Meite? Is there a worse defender in the league?
3-1 Stoke.Yep
You just know Arsenal will take us apart next week.
I dont know who I want to lose mostMan Utd by a country mile
Me too..............I dont know who I want to lose mostMan Utd by a country mile
Come on Chelsea. Nothing (well almost) would make me happier than seeing Man Utd finish the season empty handed. It's not the club or the team I hate, it's their fans. Utter, utter wankers!
Come on Chelsea. Nothing (well almost) would make me happier than seeing Man Utd finish the season empty handed. It's not the club or the team I hate, it's their fans. Utter, utter wankers!
The biggest wanker of the lot is the one with the 'United, Kids, Wife In that order' banner.
I have to watch on mute.Can't bear to hear the revolting Glory Hunters.Come on Chelsea. Nothing (well almost) would make me happier than seeing Man Utd finish the season empty handed. It's not the club or the team I hate, it's their fans. Utter, utter wankers!
The biggest wanker of the lot is the one with the 'United, Kids, Wife In that order' banner.
They're all wankers Chris, to a man.
all over as soon as webb was oppointed as ref imo. Bobby charlton would have been more neutral.So far he hasnt had a bad game
all over as soon as webb was oppointed as ref imo. Bobby charlton would have been more neutral.So far he hasnt had a bad game
For all of the reasons I don't like United, I have to laugh at the whole scenario where it is looking likely that City will walk out at Wembley for their first final in 30 years precisely ten minutes after their neighbours have been crowned champions for a record nineteenth time. Talk about pissing on someone else's parade!And then get beaten by Stoke
Can't bear either of them, no idea why I'm watching it to be honest.
Christ, Albion's defending makes us look like a finely tuned Mourinho team. Even Dunne and Collins would struggle to defend a corner as badly as they did for Wolves' second goal.Went to the game yesterday. Think they hate each other more than us and blues. Noise was deafening at times. Music was shit and doubt they need it at wolves as they usually make more noise than the likes of Bolton and Blackburn.
Did I also just hear music being played after a goal? Christ.
We're quite likely to get a mullering to cap a truly awful season on the last day I reckon.
They seem to be a better team without that diving twat Stevie 'I most control every aspect of the game, including the refereeing' Gerrard.
Commentators here said he gave the V's and a fuck off to VSM.
Commentators here said he gave the V's and a fuck off to VSM.
Commentators here said he gave the V's and a fuck off to VSM.
What had VSM done to upset Baird?
I'm genuinely amazed we're that high.
I'm genuinely amazed we're that high.
It's not that amazing to be able to string slightly-above-midtable form together for nearly half a season. Just look at who's level with us on points.
I had expected us to have a similar turnaround as Liverpool (they were flirting with relegation before Xmas) post Jan transfer wind but no we have been useless.
I had expected us to have a similar turnaround as Liverpool (they were flirting with relegation before Xmas) post Jan transfer wind but no we have been useless.
That's useless in a better-than-Spurs-and-Manchester-City type of way.
I had expected us to have a similar turnaround as Liverpool (they were flirting with relegation before Xmas) post Jan transfer wind but no we have been useless.
That's useless in a better-than-Spurs-and-Manchester-City type of way.
It'll take much more than that Opta table to convince me that we've not been useless the latter half of the season.
We've picked up points from matches where we've been as poor as we have in many other matches. Newcastle at home, for example. Stoke at home. Wigan at home. Five points from nine and three unbeaten home matches in a run, and not a single even half convincing performance in them.
Does anybody doubt that the Blues will see off Fulham?Reckon Hughes can be a nasty barsteward though.He will instill a few rockets up arses prior to this game.Blues have absolutely no firepower up front.Don't give up hope yet
Does anybody doubt that the Blues will see off Fulham?Reckon Hughes can be a nasty barsteward though.He will instill a few rockets up arses prior to this game.Blues have absolutely no firepower up front.Don't give up hope yet
Does anybody doubt that the Blues will see off Fulham?Reckon Hughes can be a nasty barsteward though.He will instill a few rockets up arses prior to this game.Blues have absolutely no firepower up front.Don't give up hope yet
And the noses will be missing Adent Ridgewell & Gardner.
Citeh qualify for Champions League. Yawn.
Does anybody doubt that the Blues will see off Fulham?Reckon Hughes can be a nasty barsteward though.He will instill a few rockets up arses prior to this game.Blues have absolutely no firepower up front.Don't give up hope yet
Well done Citeh, an amazing achievement. They might even finish THIRD! Incredible!Arsenal will be desperate to secure third so they can avoid the qualifying rounds.Who are they playing next ??....Oh shit ....
Well done Citeh, an amazing achievement. They might even finish THIRD! Incredible!
Well done Citeh, an amazing achievement. They might even finish THIRD! Incredible!
I'm pretty sure TheManWithAStick was taking the piss.
That said, I can't be arsed with the anti-Man City vitriole. They're only doing what any other team with that much money would do... signing lots of players, and if it weakens their rivals in the process, all the better.
They're way less obnoxious than the other Noveau Riche from Stamford Bridge.
Remember how we said City would implode with all those egos at one club?
Remember how we said City would implode with all those egos at one club?
So the promised land of the Champions League with it's untold riches, wonderful future and sense of arrival on the "big stage" has all but gone as far as Spurs are concerned.
Granted, they were part of some great games and provided some unforgettable memories for the fans but in the grand scheme of things, how much has changed for the club?
Not a lot I would wager which goes to prove that the hyperbole surrounding qualification is just that. An empty and soulless achievement. Give me a cup win anyday.
Take Bale out of the equation who I think will end up injured a lot because of his style of play and because he will be targeted with double marking etc and Van Der Vaart whose heart isn't really in it, and I think they are actually a very ordinary team. Modric does it sometimes but is not as great as some make out for me. In hindsight, they played some big names in the CL who are going through very fallow patches. Talking of empty and soulless achievements, that is exactly how I view Man City's season. It must just be me, but there is something about watching them that is just so empty and 'antiseptic' - dreary, unexciting football played in a stadium completely devoid of any sort of atmosphere or character.
Take Bale out of the equation who I think will end up injured a lot because of his style of play and because he will be targeted with double marking etc and Van Der Vaart whose heart isn't really in it, and I think they are actually a very ordinary team. Modric does it sometimes but is not as great as some make out for me. In hindsight, they played some big names in the CL who are going through very fallow patches. Talking of empty and soulless achievements, that is exactly how I view Man City's season. It must just be me, but there is something about watching them that is just so empty and 'antiseptic' - dreary, unexciting football played in a stadium completely devoid of any sort of atmosphere or character.
Blimey, a Richard post with full-stops and no ...'s at the end! Fair play!
What for?Kicking the forest player in the goolies
What for?Kicking the forest player in the goolies
Poor following of merely 2k fans of Swansea.
Take Bale out of the equation who I think will end up injured a lot because of his style of play and because he will be targeted with double marking etc and Van Der Vaart whose heart isn't really in it, and I think they are actually a very ordinary team. Modric does it sometimes but is not as great as some make out for me. In hindsight, they played some big names in the CL who are going through very fallow patches. Talking of empty and soulless achievements, that is exactly how I view Man City's season. It must just be me, but there is something about watching them that is just so empty and 'antiseptic' - dreary, unexciting football played in a stadium completely devoid of any sort of atmosphere or character.
Blimey, a Richard post with full-stops and no ...'s at the end! Fair play!
Take Bale out of the equation who I think will end up injured a lot because of his style of play and because he will be targeted with double marking etc and Van Der Vaart whose heart isn't really in it, and I think they are actually a very ordinary team. Modric does it sometimes but is not as great as some make out for me. In hindsight, they played some big names in the CL who are going through very fallow patches. Talking of empty and soulless achievements, that is exactly how I view Man City's season. It must just be me, but there is something about watching them that is just so empty and 'antiseptic' - dreary, unexciting football played in a stadium completely devoid of any sort of atmosphere or character.
Blimey, a Richard post with full-stops and no ...'s at the end! Fair play!
Just for you Eammon. You will note it was still pessimistic and generally grumpy however
A big,big day for us today.
If Wolves and/or Blackpool fail to win today we are mathematically safe.
At least we will know relatively early, before 3pm.
Shit isn't it ?
It will still need us to get royally thumped twice for us to go down as it stands (although I'm still twitching uncomfortably)
If it stays like this (it won't), then massive pressure on Blose tom'w.
Much as I want the rags obliterated, I'm rather similar to their fans in that I consider the fate of Villa to be more important than anything else.
Blackpool or Wolves failing to win would be fine by me.
It will still need us to get royally thumped twice for us to go down as it stands (although I'm still twitching uncomfortably)
If it stays like this (it won't), then massive pressure on Blose tom'w.
Getting royally thumped is very much a possibility in our last two games.
As unlikely as it is for us to go down, I'll still be much happier going into tomorrow if we definitely safe.
What a great way to spend FA Cup Final Saturday; sweating on whether or not dog shit teams like Blackburn, Wolves and Blackpool can drop points to ensure we avoid relegation... bad times
4-3 now!
Scratch that, its only 3-3.
Scratch that, its only 3-3.
Too late, I already emptied my bowels into my trousers.
Scratch that, its only 3-3.
Too late, I already emptied my bowels into my trousers.
Well it wasn't in vain now.
Yea and blackpool have to score a hatful against man u and us to lose out last two, doubt it, why the panic?
Yea west ham cant catch us, Wigan have to win both with a ten goal turn around oh and wolves and blackburn are playing each other last game they both cant win 3 points.Forgot that bit. Feel a bit better now
We are 150/1 to go down for a reason, it wont happen.
Yea west ham cant catch us, Wigan have to win both with a ten goal turn around oh and wolves and blackburn are playing each other last game they both cant win 3 points.
We are 150/1 to go down for a reason, it wont happen.
Yea west ham cant catch us, Wigan have to win both with a ten goal turn around oh and wolves and blackburn are playing each other last game they both cant win 3 points.If we get smashed 3-0 and 4-0 Wigan would only need two 2-0 wins. Not out of the question. If Blackburn win today they won't necessarily need even a point to stay up last day if their goal difference overtakes ours. Of course it's unlikely, but it's by no means out of the questions, especially the way the results have been going the last two weekends.
We are 150/1 to go down for a reason, it wont happen.
A West Ham Draw would make us safe.
A West Ham Draw would make us safe.
Are you sure?
I've just turned to the Final and I'm sorry, it all feels a bit 'meh'. I'm sure it's great for Stoke and City fans but after the league results I'm not at all arsed.
I've just turned to the Final and I'm sorry, it all feels a bit 'meh'. I'm sure it's great for Stoke and City fans but after the league results I'm not at all arsed.
Dont watch it then mate......I cant wait the other games have finished move on
I've just turned to the Final and I'm sorry, it all feels a bit 'meh'. I'm sure it's great for Stoke and City fans but after the league results I'm not at all arsed.
Dont watch it then mate......I cant wait the other games have finished move on
Thanks for the advice.
A West Ham Draw would make us safe.
Are you sure?
Yes it would mean Wigan can't catch us. One of Wolves / Blackburn can't either now.
I have just had Swinton Insurance phoning me trying to get me to renew my car cover with them. Phoning people while the cup final is on would have been unheard of a few years ago!no doubt Indian call centre with "James" trying on a very fake accent to convince you he is local. Unlucky that he was not aware of small things like the FA cup final!
Not for the first time, we have an FA Cup Final that's boring as shit.
I have just had Swinton Insurance phoning me trying to get me to renew my car cover with them. Phoning people while the cup final is on would have been unheard of a few years ago!no doubt Indian call centre with "James" trying on a very fake accent to convince you he is local. Unlucky that he was not aware of small things like the FA cup final!
Did I hear right? 25,000 tickets for each team and attendance of 88,000. That makes 38,000 corporates?
Did I hear right? 25,000 tickets for each team and attendance of 88,000. That makes 38,000 corporates?
Did I hear right? 25,000 tickets for each team and attendance of 88,000. That makes 38,000 corporates?no no sir not 38000 ONLY 23000 for corporates and 15000 for the FA family including 1000 for John Terry no doubt.
Trying to place an accumulator bet on sky bet or bet 365 but both sites only show tomorrow's games and I can't bring up next week's games. Anyone know how to do it?
Trying to place an accumulator bet on sky bet or bet 365 but both sites only show tomorrow's games and I can't bring up next week's games. Anyone know how to do it?
Is Milner on the bench?Yes.Carew on
I feel for the Stoke fans, I know what it's like to wait for so long to get to the FA Cup Final only for your team to be absolutely fuckin' shit.Yep, we know exactly what it feels like, don't we ?
I feel for the Stoke fans, I know what it's like to wait for so long to get to the FA Cup Final only for your team to be absolutely fuckin' shit.
I feel for the Stoke fans, I know what it's like to wait for so long to get to the FA Cup Final only for your team to be absolutely fuckin' shit.
To be fair, i would rather Citeeeeh than Ure, Chelsk, Arse , Lplop or Spuds.
I think they are the best team we have played this season.Generally proper fans, not glory-hunters like the afore mentioned.
Don't agree that we are light years behind tbh,.
It's quite depressing really, you just can't see anyone challenging for the title other than the 3 of them (or 4 if Wenger spends biggish).
It's quite depressing really, you just can't see anyone challenging for the title other than the 3 of them (or 4 if Wenger spends biggish).
Well, Jamie thinks that Liverpool will be up there with a shout next season and it wont stop the media and press alike punting for Spurs.
Fulham goal: Quite a story behind this one. Blues keeper Ben Foster has to scramble to keep out Mark Schwarzer's enormous goal-kick, which is bouncing in. From the resulting corner, Brede Hangeland jumps highest and heads home. Ignore what I said earlier, this is good news for Wigan and West Ham.
1605: GOALFLASH Birmingham 0-1 Fulham (Hangeland)
Assuming a Spurs win next week, just need Blackpool to get a point against Man United, which I can't see, or a West Ham win against Sunderland.
Man Utd will field a reserve side like they did vs West Ham in 2007 and lose to Blackpool i reckon. And will they be punished? No chance.
Need fulham to get a few second half to fuck up their GD.
Need fulham to get a few second half to fuck up their GD.
I'd settle for Fulham winning.
The Ron Toss phone-in is goung to be fantastic tonight!
What a superb day of football. West Ham rightfully down (albeit a few years too late) and the Blues shitting themselves into the final week.
Feel a bit sorry for West Ham, never thought I would say that!
Must be awful to be goaded by Wigan fans, the ultimate insult...
Joe Hart for me.I'd quite like the reincarnation of Lev Yashin.
Can we add Pele to the list?Yeah, and Andy Lochead
MoTD referring to Suarez as 'the pick of the big money january transfers'. Quite...
Feel a bit sorry for West Ham, never thought I would say that!
Must be awful to be goaded by Wigan fans, the ultimate insult...
At the start West Ham we're singing "you're going down with the West Ham" and "que sera, sera, whatever will be, will be, we're going to Coventry..." so they got their retaliation in first.
After Wigan's equaliser a plane flew over the ground with a banner saying "AVRAM GRANT - MILLWALL LEGEND".
Just seen the pen that confirmed Manures win. How could it be given when the ball was virtually out almost before the contact on the keeper? Maybe because Vidic and the others had run 60 yards to yell in the linesman face.
MoTD referring to Suarez as 'the pick of the big money january transfers'. Quite...
Just seen the pen that confirmed Manures win. How could it be given when the ball was virtually out almost before the contact on the keeper? Maybe because Vidic and the others had run 60 yards to yell in the linesman face.
Feel a bit sorry for West Ham, never thought I would say that!
Must be awful to be goaded by Wigan fans, the ultimate insult...
At the start West Ham we're singing "you're going down with the West Ham" and "que sera, sera, whatever will be, will be, we're going to Coventry..." so they got their retaliation in first.
After Wigan's equaliser a plane flew over the ground with a banner saying "AVRAM GRANT - MILLWALL LEGEND".
Been rather a good weekend for me on the betting front
I had Villa to win today at 7/1
I also had Man Utd to win the league placed before the season began at 5/2
And then I remembered tonight that I had put money on West Ham to go down also before the season began at 9/2, which is perhaps the bet I am most pleased with as not many would have predicted that back in August
What a superb day of football. West Ham rightfully down (albeit a few years too late) and the Blues shitting themselves into the final week.
When do they take over the Olympic Stadium? Although they obviously have some decent fans (I'm talking about Sendo, not Ray Fucking Winstone) I would love it if they did a Norwich, Leeds or Southampton and fell another division next year in shock. They would have the best ground in the 3rd Division since we were there.
The Krays were fond of charity but they were still faaaaaaaacking caaaaaaaaaants
Just seen the pen that confirmed Manures win. How could it be given when the ball was virtually out almost before the contact on the keeper? Maybe because Vidic and the others had run 60 yards to yell in the linesman face.
The Krays were fond of charity but they were still faaaaaaaacking caaaaaaaaaants
So did a Man U fan go to Anfield especially to put that banner there? Isn't that a bit, dare I say it, "small time"?
Swansea one up against Forest at the moment. Shame. I want Forest to win.Me too Lizz. Not looking good now though at 2-0
Good game.Exactly that. According to an episode of QI, the reason the players are booked for taking off the shirt is not crowd enciting, it is the sponsor on the shirt not being in picture, be it photographic or video, when the goal is scored.
But they have GOT to get rid of that bloody stupid rule where players can get booked for celebrating, for fuck's sake the bloke has just put his team in the play-off final. Fair enough if you incite the away fans or jump into the crowd, but all he did was take his shirt off. People in suits taking the fun out of football.
So did a Man U fan go to Anfield especially to put that banner there? Isn't that a bit, dare I say it, "small time"?
Could be Swansea - Cardiff at Wembley...oh dear.
Could be Swansea - Cardiff at Wembley...oh dear.
If it transpires that it is Swansea-Cardiff then they should play it at the Millennium Stadium and let the good citizens of South Wales pick up both the pieces and the policing costs.
Good game.I understand what you are saying there Dave, but this has been in the laws for quite a few years now. Do players really need to take their shirt off to celebrate a goal? Its only crept into the game the last 15 or so yrs. The international board decided its a yellow card offence, yet players still do it. maybe in certain parts of the world people find it offensive, i cant remember the exact reason trhey gave for deciding this.
But they have GOT to get rid of that bloody stupid rule where players can get booked for celebrating, for fuck's sake the bloke has just put his team in the play-off final. Fair enough if you incite the away fans or jump into the crowd, but all he did was take his shirt off. People in suits taking the fun out of football.
Can I just say that Cardiff is a great day out? No? OK
See my post above DV. Its to do with the sponsor on the shirt. Companies want their brand in the newspapers and on the TV when a goal is scored. It was decided that this would be a yellow card offence.Good game.I understand what you are saying there Dave, but this has been in the laws for quite a few years now. Do players really need to take their shirt off to celebrate a goal? Its only crept into the game the last 15 or so yrs. The international board decided its a yellow card offence, yet players still do it. maybe in certain parts of the world people find it offensive, i cant remember the exact reason trhey gave for deciding this.
But they have GOT to get rid of that bloody stupid rule where players can get booked for celebrating, for fuck's sake the bloke has just put his team in the play-off final. Fair enough if you incite the away fans or jump into the crowd, but all he did was take his shirt off. People in suits taking the fun out of football.
Good game.I understand what you are saying there Dave, but this has been in the laws for quite a few years now. Do players really need to take their shirt off to celebrate a goal? Its only crept into the game the last 15 or so yrs. The international board decided its a yellow card offence, yet players still do it. maybe in certain parts of the world people find it offensive, i cant remember the exact reason trhey gave for deciding this.
But they have GOT to get rid of that bloody stupid rule where players can get booked for celebrating, for fuck's sake the bloke has just put his team in the play-off final. Fair enough if you incite the away fans or jump into the crowd, but all he did was take his shirt off. People in suits taking the fun out of football.
Good game.I understand what you are saying there Dave, but this has been in the laws for quite a few years now. Do players really need to take their shirt off to celebrate a goal? Its only crept into the game the last 15 or so yrs. The international board decided its a yellow card offence, yet players still do it. maybe in certain parts of the world people find it offensive, i cant remember the exact reason trhey gave for deciding this.
But they have GOT to get rid of that bloody stupid rule where players can get booked for celebrating, for fuck's sake the bloke has just put his team in the play-off final. Fair enough if you incite the away fans or jump into the crowd, but all he did was take his shirt off. People in suits taking the fun out of football.
Whatever the reason it's pathetic, I have no idea why players rip their shirts off after scoring but it really doesn't hurt anyone. If he had already been booked he would have missed the final for celebrating probably the most important goal of his career, madness.
I hadn't thought about it before but I reckon Glasses is right.
And Cardiff fans throwing things on the pitch apparantley.
2132: Classless. Some of the Cardiff fans are throwing things at the Reading players as they prepare to take a throw-in. What a shame it has to finish like this.
Man City 3 up now and could be more to come.
If Wigan beat tired, dis-spirited Stoke on Sunday it may bring us the pleasure of helping relegate Blues
Ninian could be moody though.
Not sure whether their new ground has lost its edge.
Man City 3 up now and could be more to come.
If Wigan beat tired, dis-spirited Stoke on Sunday it may bring us the pleasure of helping relegate Blues
So what do we think? Swansea or Reading for the PL?
if the scores all go for us on the final day and we beat Liverpool, we could jump quite a few places!! Very unusual not to be mathematically safe with two games to go but finish around midtable two games later...!9th is the highest we can go.
if the scores all go for us on the final day and we beat Liverpool, we could jump quite a few places!! Very unusual not to be mathematically safe with two games to go but finish around midtable two games later...!9th is the highest we can go.
Come on Swansea. I never want to go back to Reading again; crap plastic ground, crap plastic fans, rubbish away day, Hitler stewards.
Come on Swansea. I never want to go back to Reading again; crap plastic ground, crap plastic fans, rubbish away day, Hitler stewards.
Take a stroll through Swansea and you might change your mind.
Cardiff are 8/1 to win league next season. For those that don't understand betting, if you put £10 on, you will lose £10.
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I note with no interest whatsoever that Falcao has scored for Porto. And to think we were interested in him and could have signed him for £4m if it wasn't for the fact he never had a UK passport.Which is quite an important reason in spite of the transfer policy at the time - when he went for £4m to Porto he would never have got a work permit would he?
I note with no interest whatsoever that Falcao has scored for Porto. And to think we were interested in him and could have signed him for £4m if it wasn't for the fact he never had a UK passport.Which is quite an important reason in spite of the transfer policy at the time - when he went for £4m to Porto he would never have got a work permit would he?
Udders 2 Bournemouth 2 cracking finish. More exciting game than the Wafer Cup Final.agreed 100% its a great game...............
The manager at Braga has already said he is leaving. Arguably his achievements are greater than Boas Villa due to the size and stature of the Braga. I also looked on wiki and his record is pretty impressive for a young manager.
Anyone know where he is going next season? I assume something has already been agreed...
Sad for my current home town Bournemouth (not that I care an awful lot to be fair). Great game, ruined once again by the referee. How did matey get a red card and yet two Huddersfield players stay on the pitch for similar tackles?
Would've been nice to pop down the road and watch them play blose next season.
Well done to Posh
Man. Utd 1 Blackpool 0
Dingles 1 Blackburn 1
Spurs 2 SHA 0
Stoke 1 Wigan 0
If this were to happen tomorrow:-
Wigan, SHA and Blackpool would all be on 39 points each.
Wigan would be 19th with -23 GD.
Both SHA and Blackpool would be on -22 GD.
Buuuuuuuut, SHA would be 18th and down because of lesser goals scored against their rivals (plus the fact that they are SHA, but they don't mention that in the LAWS).
I'd like to be reading the above scores tomorrow afternoon.
Man. Utd 1 Blackpool 0
Dingles 1 Blackburn 1
Spurs 2 SHA 0
Stoke 1 Wigan 0
If this were to happen tomorrow:-
Wigan, SHA and Blackpool would all be on 39 points each.
Wigan would be 19th with -23 GD.
Both SHA and Blackpool would be on -22 GD.
Buuuuuuuut, SHA would be 18th and down because of lesser goals scored against their rivals (plus the fact that they are SHA, but they don't mention that in the LAWS).
I'd like to be reading the above scores tomorrow afternoon.
Rearrange your weekend sharpish...all Prem games are on Sunday.
I think the anti-bigot cause would be served better if neither of the Old Firm had won the Cup. Oh well. 2012 is Clyde's year for the Cup.
Is it wrong to enjoy a Spurs goal so much??
I envisage a Blose equaliser....They've just got it and it was Gardner with a rocket.
Olbiyun scored. Are we going 9th?!
Olbiyun scored. Are we going 9th?!
I had the Fulham and Newcastle games as draws at 10/1...the day couldn't have got much better, but it just has!
Drinks on Richard everyone! :D
The Sheffield United fans are happy with the appointment of their new manager then -
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The Sheffield United fans are happy with the appointment of their new manager then -
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/05/27/wilson2.jpg)
The Sheffield United fans are happy with the appointment of their new manager then -
(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2011/05/27/wilson2.jpg)
I was unaware that Christopher Reeve was a blade.
Great game today, Peterborough have a couple of really cracking players at that level - McKail-Smith, McCann and the guy with the headband whose name escapes me just now. I even felt rather pleased for Barry Fry who I strangely quite like these days. He has such enthusiasm for the game
Listening to the game on R5, sounds very good.
Still think Scott Sinclair could be an Ashley replacement.
Are their fans as stabby as Cardiff's?
Are their fans as stabby as Cardiff's?
I'm sitting drinking with some Swansea fans who have just got back from Wembley and they are perfectly decent people.
Are their fans as stabby as Cardiff's?
I'm sitting drinking with some Swansea fans who have just got back from Wembley and they are perfectly decent people.
Has Jon mentioned Boxing Day 1971 yet?
Us along with Olbiyun will be their derby games.
Are their fans as stabby as Cardiff's?
An all villa / ex-villa front 4. just not sure of the balance between those 2 categories in 3 months' time.
How far has James Milner fallen?
Looked a poor player today.
How far has James Milner fallen?
Looked a poor player today.
If managers will insist on playing him wide just because of his workrate then all your going to get is a workhorse.
How far has James Milner fallen?
Looked a poor player today.
If managers will insist on playing him wide just because of his workrate then all your going to get is a workhorse.
I was just about to write similar. Even when playing badly he works so hard and covers so much ground.
Milners a central midfielder to me.His workrate is exemplary, but we got a very good deal for Milner tbh.
Did we ? Losing our best player and paying Stephen Ireland £60,000 a week for doing nothing to me is not a good deal !!
Milners a central midfielder to me.His workrate is exemplary, but we got a very good deal for Milner tbh.
Yep, all day long a central midfielder. We got a good deal but we haven't replaced him.
We've never replaced Andy Townsend.
We've never replaced Andy Townsend.
We've never replaced Andy Townsend.
Or Merson.
We've never replaced Andy Townsend.
We've never replaced Andy Townsend.
Or Merson.
Speaking of Merson, I well remember him exclaiming "you don't replace Geoge Boateng with Mark Kinsella!".
We've never replaced Andy Townsend.
Or Merson.
Speaking of Merson, I well remember him exclaiming "you don't replace Geoge Boateng with Mark Kinsella!".
Merson was right. There were some terrible Villa signings in that 2001-2003 era.
Shay Given just made a world class save.....just saying like....
Shay Given just made a world class save.....just saying like....
It was a great save..........
Shay Given just made a world class save.....just saying like....
It was a great save..........
I hope he's in our shortlist. I really think we'd get three good years out of him.
Shay Given just made a world class save.....just saying like....
It was a great save..........
I hope he's in our shortlist. I really think we'd get three good years out of him.
i agree
or Bruce RiochWe've never replaced Andy Townsend.
Or Dennis Mortimer.
or Bruce RiochWe've never replaced Andy Townsend.
Or Dennis Mortimer.
Was Bent's miss as bad as people are making out? Didn't see it.
or Bruce RiochWe've never replaced Andy Townsend.
Or Dennis Mortimer.
Or Pongo Waring.
Clinical from Keano, 0-2.
Clinical from Keano, 0-2.
Indeed. 51 and counting. Another imperious performance from Given, dispelled the myth about not commanding his area there in the first half by coming through Darren O'Dea and some Macedonian to punch clear. I'd give anything at this stage to have him between the sticks for Villa.
Ashley Young was and is our best player, not Milner.
Was Bent's miss as bad as people are making out? Didn't see it.
Oops! (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/world-of-sport/article/53704/)
Just watched the under 21s get the run around, Henderson looked very ordinary, Walker was excellent
I don't know why, but I have a feeling that Albrighton's going to really hit the wall next season in terms of his development. Which isn't to say he won't get over that hurdle, but I don't think he should be in our first choice 11 from the outset. Hope I'm wrong!
I've had this nagging thought for a while that Houllier brought Albrighton back into first team action so soon after his surgery.
I hope that didn't hinder him.
Jordan Henderson is very ordinary
Jordan Henderson is very ordinary
Cattermole with a better touch. £20m of your English pounds.
Is it true that Pearce is being groomed to replace Capello? That would be a disaster.
Jordan Henderson is very ordinary
Equaliser from the Cezchs, very hard to get excited about this crop of England players. Sturridge, Walker, Jones & Smalling look comfortable, its difficult to see a bright future for any others.Agree but Pearce set the team up for the tournament in the most negative way, they had a very decent defence, so stick 2 holding players in front of that and hope that you can nick a goal
Equaliser from the Cezchs, very hard to get excited about this crop of England players. Sturridge, Walker, Jones & Smalling look comfortable, its difficult to see a bright future for any others.Agree but Pearce set the team up for the tournament in the most negative way, they had a very decent defence, so stick 2 holding players in front of that and hope that you can nick a goal
Equaliser from the Cezchs, very hard to get excited about this crop of England players. Sturridge, Walker, Jones & Smalling look comfortable, its difficult to see a bright future for any others.
From what I have seen they look the equal of the others in their own two thirds but when pressed in the last third they cant retain the ball in the manner of the other teams.I agree, some of the real basics about forward play was lacking, standing offside, turning into players with thier back to goal, no movement. the set up was totaly wrong, it would take a page to explain all the rubish in terms of tactics and strategy, Pearce is a dinosaur
I was looking at t'internet so I cant claim to have watched closely but from what I saw the biggest problem was Henderson, he was the man who the team were to play through yet he wasn't up to it, his movement was poor, his touch wasn't great and he panicked and gave the ball away when pressed. King Kenny will be nervously blaming it on fatigue and he's probably right, has he played more PL games than anyone else in that team this season?
I was looking at t'internet so I cant claim to have watched closely but from what I saw the biggest problem was Henderson, he was the man who the team were to play through yet he wasn't up to it, his movement was poor, his touch wasn't great and he panicked and gave the ball away when pressed. King Kenny will be nervously blaming it on fatigue and he's probably right, has he played more PL games than anyone else in that team this season?
I honestly think someone at Liverpool has gone fucking mental.
First 35m on Carroll, a young striker with a penchant for getting pissed and into bother, who has had one half of a good Premier League season, and has now been taken away from his comfort zone, then the best part of 20m for Jordan Henderson, who has had one half of an average Premier League season.
I know they trust him implicitly up there, but if I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be a bit worried by signings like that.
Jones looks like a younger version of Jagelka, Compare Jordan Henderson to C Gardener at the same tournament and you have a seriously over valued playerI was looking at t'internet so I cant claim to have watched closely but from what I saw the biggest problem was Henderson, he was the man who the team were to play through yet he wasn't up to it, his movement was poor, his touch wasn't great and he panicked and gave the ball away when pressed. King Kenny will be nervously blaming it on fatigue and he's probably right, has he played more PL games than anyone else in that team this season?
I honestly think someone at Liverpool has gone fucking mental.
First 35m on Carroll, a young striker with a penchant for getting pissed and into bother, who has had one half of a good Premier League season, and has now been taken away from his comfort zone, then the best part of 20m for Jordan Henderson, who has had one half of an average Premier League season.
I know they trust him implicitly up there, but if I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be a bit worried by signings like that.
Plus they'd have spend nearly the same on that Jones as well.
The one thing I liked about Henderson was that he didn't hide, he was pretty ropey but still kept demanding the ball and trying to get things going, he failed abysmally but confidence wont be an issue.maybe Henderson is burned out
In Argentina... River Plate relegated. Sunk by Belgrano in play-off.
And set there ground on fire.
The stadium is being ripped to buggery, the club museum has been set on fire and the match finished early due to rioting on and off the pitch.
At least they're taking the news well.
And set there ground on fire.No Take That concert then.
And set there ground on fire.No Take That concert then.