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Offline hawkeye

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« Reply #150 on: July 24, 2010, 12:35:29 AM »
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Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
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I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.
he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager

Now tell me something I don't know. (winky)
his wife has her hair done at the same salon as my mother in law

Everybody knows that.
damn ok the bloke who sorted my wasp nest plays golf with MON

Online pauliewalnuts

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« Reply #151 on: July 24, 2010, 12:40:37 AM »
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.
he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager

Now tell me something I don't know. (winky)
his wife has her hair done at the same salon as my mother in law

Everybody knows that.
damn ok the bloke who sorted my wasp nest plays golf with MON


"sorted my wasps nest"

I assume that's a euphemism, hawkeye, you filthy slut.

Offline hawkeye

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« Reply #152 on: July 24, 2010, 12:53:01 AM »
Quote from: "pauliewalnuts"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.
he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager

Now tell me something I don't know. (winky)
his wife has her hair done at the same salon as my mother in law

Everybody knows that.
damn ok the bloke who sorted my wasp nest plays golf with MON


"sorted my wasps nest"

I assume that's a euphemism, hawkeye, you filthy slut.
argh caught out again

Offline eastie

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« Reply #153 on: July 24, 2010, 07:24:31 AM »
A manager has to treat people the same and cannot hold grudges or have favourites- I feel on both these counts mon fails, besides a lack of being able to change tactics and influence a game with subs.

The emperor wears no clothes!gradually people are beginning to see through his reputation, and I for one do not like what I see.

On a positive note, if heskey goes to big Sam for £2m then we can all open the champers!

Offline Daholteend

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« Reply #154 on: July 24, 2010, 08:13:52 AM »
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I'm sure there are plenty of foreign players that would love to come to the Villa, get paid £40k a week to sit on a bench for 90 minutes once a week.


Now let's see, Berger, Berson, Balaban,  and that's just the B's !!!

Offline KevinGage

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« Reply #155 on: July 24, 2010, 10:35:09 AM »
Quote from: "hawkeye"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.
he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager


I think he's a decent manager (as three top 6 finishes would indicate) but not always a great man manager.

Offline SoccerHQ

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« Reply #156 on: July 24, 2010, 03:56:23 PM »
Our best back 4 at the club is still....Young....Cuellar...Dunney....Warnock imo.

So I'll diplomatically say I don't agree with the manager's decision.

Some sort of bust up must have happened if Luke is even behind Beye and Shorey in the full back positions now as they'll both probably leave aswell!

Offline PaulTheVillan

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« Reply #157 on: July 24, 2010, 09:47:46 PM »
Agreed Young Cuellar Dunne Warnock should have been our back 4 for most of the season. I really hope we sign a solid right back who like Gary Neville for example can get forward and overlap but can also defend well.

Offline eamonn

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« Reply #158 on: July 25, 2010, 03:03:03 AM »
Yeah but unlike Gary Neville, let's hope he's not a ******.

Offline VillaZogmariner

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« Reply #159 on: July 25, 2010, 07:40:37 AM »
Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.

Interesting theory.

How does Nigel Reo-Coker fit into it, considering he is the most expensive central-midfielder that we have bought?

And I'm sure that O'Neill has never spent more money on one of our strikers than he did on Emile Heskey - who couldn't get near the first XI for the last six months.


Didn't Marlon cost more than Mr Em?

Offline TheSandman

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« Reply #160 on: July 25, 2010, 02:23:51 PM »
Yes, £4million plays £3.5million.

Offline WALTERS WARRIORS

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« Reply #161 on: July 26, 2010, 02:51:04 PM »
Bad bad mistake to let Luke young go. He gives 100% when playing and is as good as any rb in the premiership ..........

Offline mattjpa

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« Reply #162 on: July 26, 2010, 08:03:55 PM »
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I wonder if luke will spill the beans on mon in the same way sorensen did-would make interesting Reading.


It would be the first interesting thing associated with Reading!

And back on topic, Patrik Berger had things to say as well, didn't he?

But tbf, Maloney, Baros, Gardner, Ridgewell, Cahill et al have never had anything bad to say about the bloke have they?


Im pretty sure gardner, Cahill (and poss agent ridge) all said something along the lines of "i left because no matter how hard i tried in training the manager would never give me a chance". I def remember it from gardner as i had been thinking i would do the same thing (apart from the sign for blooooos bit)

Offline peter w

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« Reply #163 on: July 26, 2010, 08:07:29 PM »
I'd guess that Norwich would be the appropriate place for him to end up.

Offline mattjpa

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« Reply #164 on: July 26, 2010, 08:11:58 PM »
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Cuellars distribution is so poor it often breaks up our attacking play and gives away possession putting us on the defensive, his defending at right back has improved a lot but I still would prefer a right back who can defend and add something going forward and for that reason luke young is a much better all round right back than cuellar.


I agree to an extent but lets not turn this into a cuellar witch hunt. I think that against teams such as united and arsenal who have good wingers but do not 'park the bus' cuellar is probably the better option. Break it up, give it on. The deficiencies in a situation like this was the lack of a genuine creative CM (milner was good but i think he needed a full season there to be top class). Similarly he was a good option against aerial teams such as stoke and bolton. The problems came against teams like wolves and west ham when L Youngs superior dribbling, passing and crossing skills would have probably made the difference. Cost us the Champs league place IMO

 


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