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« Reply #120 on: July 23, 2010, 02:28:24 PM »
Chris, how can you say clough was more of a coach, the players rarely saw him from one matchday till the next and he was almost never present at training .

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« Reply #121 on: July 23, 2010, 02:38:07 PM »
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Chris, how can you say clough was more of a coach, the players rarely saw him from one matchday till the next and he was almost never present at training .


That's just not true.

"One of the great myths of all-time was that he was a manager and not a coach and seldom on the training ground." Martin O'Neill.

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« Reply #122 on: July 23, 2010, 02:44:56 PM »
Read 4 books on him and even his own autobiography and they all say cloughie rarely was seen on the training ground, jimmy Gordon did most of the training and often cloughie rarely turned up till matchday, not knocking it as it worked for him.

Mons version of cloughies training appearances seems to differ from even cloughies own autobiography and
many other players versions, including Roy keane and peter taylors, and Stuart pearces.

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« Reply #123 on: July 23, 2010, 02:52:02 PM »
Never seemed the same player after his brothers death, IMO. His heart doesn't seem in it. Whether that's purely the effect of the tragic incident, I don't know. It may be he wants to leave to be closer to family. Or perhaps purely frustration at his not being played.

But yes. Much as I like Luke Young. I don't see him getting back to his form 2 years ago. He's 31 now. Cash in, get his significant wages off the books, and purchase a good young fullback.

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« Reply #124 on: July 23, 2010, 03:03:44 PM »
Hello.........why are people saying lets buy another full-back ????? just for him to sit on the bench all season

MON has made it clear that Carlos is his No1 right back end of

For whatever reason we are getting rid of the second best English right back at the present moment (on his day the best)

I for one would like to know why ??

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« Reply #125 on: July 23, 2010, 03:37:26 PM »
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Luke Young's absence did not cost us 4th place, that was down to the lack of ability to break down teams at home and RB's are not very good at doing that.


When teams are 'parking the bus' a player coming from deep (in this case the fullback position) can overlap and create space for other players or deliver a telling ball themselves, something that Cuellar is unable to do.

Cuellar was played there for his defensive qualities, no problem with that, but do we really need that when facing a weaker team at home, all this has been discussed before.

Not saying we would have got 4th with LY in the team just that he may have given us more forward options in certain games at home.

A good versatile player who still has something to offer us next season but will more than likely be gone. How much will it cost us to replace him when the money should really be spent in more pressing areas.

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« Reply #126 on: July 23, 2010, 03:45:40 PM »
Cuellars distribution is so poor it often breaks up our attacking play and gives away possession putting us on the defensive, his defending at right back has improved a lot but I still would prefer a right back who can defend and add something going forward and for that reason luke young is a much better all round right back than cuellar.

Luke lost his place before his brothers death and it seemed just after he had voiced his displeasure of playing at left back and saying he would much prefer right back.

Mon hAs treated him shabbily in my opinion and I'll be sorry to see luke leave!

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« Reply #127 on: July 23, 2010, 03:53:58 PM »
Luke's a good defender but he's not by any stretch of the imaginition an attacking full back.

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« Reply #128 on: July 23, 2010, 04:03:56 PM »
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Luke's a good defender but he's not by any stretch of the imaginition an attacking full back.


Comapred to Cuellar, he's like Bosingwa.

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« Reply #129 on: July 23, 2010, 04:07:37 PM »
Far better than cuellar going forward and luke is a solid  passer and good crosser of the ball, much more attacking threat as a full back than carlos.

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« Reply #130 on: July 23, 2010, 04:09:18 PM »
Not an attacking fullback in the sense of skinning the opposition fullback and whipping in crosses all day long, or cutting in and testing the keeper.

But his touch and control is good enough so as to not look a complete mug in the opposition third of the field, and he can change momentum with a quick surge up the flanks, opening up space and creating options. He's deceptively quick.

He was/is a consistent 7/10 Denis Irwin-style performer. Rarely turned inside out by an opposition winger, and competent going forward.  Even when called upon last year, he kept an in-form Aaron Lennon very quiet.

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« Reply #131 on: July 23, 2010, 04:11:17 PM »
I don't like attacking full backs and I don't like notional full backs who have awful distribution.

Luke Young is the kind of happy medium I want in a full back. He's 31 now though and whilst I wanted him to play all last season and think he's ace I'd like us to find the younger (no pun intended) version.

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« Reply #132 on: July 23, 2010, 05:19:54 PM »
Quote from: "east19"

Luke lost his place before his brothers death and it seemed just after he had voiced his displeasure of playing at left back and saying he would much prefer right back.



I am not getting drawn into the reasons why MON and Luke Young fell out again as I have posted the reasons twice before however the above basically sums it up!

However as Chris Smith sums it up MON is the boss, therefore if Luke wants to play regularly he has to move, by not going to Ireland he forces the issue... I am NOT saying this is the right way to go about it.

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« Reply #133 on: July 23, 2010, 05:29:25 PM »
True mon is the boss , but for how much longer, is the key question!

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« Reply #134 on: July 23, 2010, 05:40:05 PM »
Quote from: "spangley1812"
Hello.........why are people saying lets buy another full-back ????? just for him to sit on the bench all season

MON has made it clear that Carlos is his No1 right back end of

For whatever reason we are getting rid of the second best English right back at the present moment (on his day the best)

I for one would like to know why ??


I know England are in dire straights when it comes to finding anyone decent, but are we really that bad? I guess we are...

 


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