Villa to sell Luke Young on the cheap

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Total mystery to me how Luke Young fell so spectacularly out of favour.

You almost wonder if there was a contretemps as MON calls them , but unlike the NRC one it didnt get out to the media.

[curiousorange]

Cuellar gets a bad rep for his full-back cover imo. He's not great by any stretch but he's nowhere near as bad as is being claimed here. If he was, we'd have finished far lower than sixth last season.

But that's a side issue to this thread - just thought I'd stick up for the guy.

[d.boy junior(sid)]

I can see why he is refusing tbh he has been treated like crap by MON and I'm fed up by it. Carlos was terrible at RB and if I'm honest I would have him benched with young starting instead in his natural position, whatever reason MON had is beyond me it's just mad as far as I see it yes young was highly unproffessional but he has every right too after his treatment in my opinion.

[pauliewalnuts]

Cuellar gets a bad rep for his full-back cover imo. He's not great by any stretch but he's nowhere near as bad as is being claimed here. If he was, we'd have finished far lower than sixth last season.

But that's a side issue to this thread - just thought I'd stick up for the guy.

I like Carlos.

He's an excellent centre back. He's a decent right back, but in that position, he's not as good as Luke Young is.

Him spending most of the season stuck there, with two international right backs on the bench - both signed by the manager - is as clear an example of the manager shoehorning his preferred players into the team regardless of who is best in each position as you'll ever see.

And for more examples of the face-doesn't-fit thing, look at the others who've practically ceased to exist.

[hawkeye]

Cuellar gets a bad rep for his full-back cover imo. He's not great by any stretch but he's nowhere near as bad as is being claimed here. If he was, we'd have finished far lower than sixth last season.

But that's a side issue to this thread - just thought I'd stick up for the guy.

I like Carlos.

He's an excellent centre back. He's a decent right back, but in that position, he's not as good as Luke Young is.

Him spending most of the season stuck there, with two international right backs on the bench - both signed by the manager - is as clear an example of the manager shoehorning his preferred players into the team regardless of who is best in each position as you'll ever see.

And for more examples of the face-doesn't-fit thing, look at the others who've practically ceased to exist.

and people wonder why players want to leave

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.

[J]

Cuellar gets a bad rep for his full-back cover imo. He's not great by any stretch but he's nowhere near as bad as is being claimed here. If he was, we'd have finished far lower than sixth last season.

But that's a side issue to this thread - just thought I'd stick up for the guy.

Carlos is solid at right back, he's just poor going forward. Saying that he did improve that aspect of his game slightly as the season went on.

[Dave]

I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.

Interesting theory.

How does Nigel Reo-Coker fit into it, considering he is the most expensive central-midfielder that we have bought?

And I'm sure that O'Neill has never spent more money on one of our strikers than he did on Emile Heskey - who couldn't get near the first XI for the last six months.

[pauliewalnuts]

If as rumour has it, NRC actually engaged in rolling-in-the-mud grappling with MON, which would override any fee consideration, I think.

NRC and MON. The battle of the acronyms.

Settled by a TKO

[hawkeye]

I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.

he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.

he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager

Now tell me something I don't know. (winky)

[Chipsticks]

If as rumour has it, NRC actually engaged in rolling-in-the-mud grappling with MON, which would override any fee consideration, I think.

NRC and MON. The battle of the acronyms.

Settled by a TKO

I've heard this story before, I seem to think it's untrue, becasue lets face it, Nigel would've battered the shit out of him.

[hawkeye]

I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.

he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager

Now tell me something I don't know. (winky)

his wife has her hair done at the same salon as my mother in law

[Rudy Can't Fail]

And I'm sure that O'Neill has never spent more money on one of our strikers than he did on Emile Heskey - who couldn't get near the first XI for the last six months.

Martin has only bought one striker, so it's not exactly the same but even with Heskey, despite doing nothing when given the opportunity, still got more minutes than he deserved.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I have often wondered if a players price tag is a deciding factor as to whether or not he gets a place in the first team.
Carlos, Downing, Ashley Young, Petrov for two seasons, all undropable. Or maybe Martin just doesn't like to rotate.

he dosent know how to rotate, he has difficulty changing the formation, substitutions  and tactics.
in fact he does not have the ability in the key areas of modern football management to maximise the resources he has available.
he makes too many crap decisions with players and transfers and seems to alienate too many players, lets face it he is an average manager

Now tell me something I don't know. (winky)

his wife has her hair done at the same salon as my mother in law

Everybody knows that.