The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[pmk1981]

If shitty lose next game I reckon Manwanki will be gone.

The dressing seems fractured with Given , Ireland and Bellamy

He has been fucking up the Milner deal

They were really shit on Saturday.

They were really shit on Saturday.


hang on a min... they werent that good !!!

[richardhubbard]

I just hope that Ireland continues to dig his heels in, Scuppers the deal. Thursday comes along Milner plays in Europe and the deal is off. 

That will only be a positive (as someone else has said i think) if Milner signs a contract extension. Otherwise, we'll have a player with one year on his contract still wanting to leave.

He wont sign a new deal. He is probably best young midfielder in the country and we need to prove with him in the team how good we can be and actually achieve more than we did under MON . If we do I would imagine he may stay. This season key for villa in terms of Milner, Young, Gabby and likes of Albrighton and Clark. The future after Saturday COULD be very good

[Villa'Zawg]

Man City will really have to display a show of force with Ireland otherwise it'll just send out a signal to every other player that they've bought, who won't make this current squad or future squads, that they can hold the club to ransom if they're not paid out.

They don't have a leg to stand on though. They should have known the risks when signing up players on high value long term contracts. If they didn't, tough.

Hmmmm, I know another club that apparently has a similar problem with players who have been replaced in the first team.

[Ger Regan]

Hmmmm, I know another club that apparently has a similar problem with players who have been replaced in the first team.

And who's fault is that I wonder?

[pauliewalnuts]

Hmmmm, I know another club that apparently has a similar problem with players who have been replaced in the first team.

And who's fault is that I wonder?

Indeed. Not something which hints at financial prudence, either, being in an even remotely similar situation to Manchester City.

Of course, not all of our players need to be "replaced", either, as that implies they were actually used in the first place ...

[richardhubbard]

http://menmedia.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1314078_ireland_left_out_in_cold_by_city


See image of David Platt " explaining " to a very unhappy player

[LeeS]

Having Milner and Ireland here would give us so many more midfield options and allow us to rotate the squad properly. The problem I foresee is that I dont think we have the money to pay his wages without offloading Sidwell, Beye and Heskey.

[Percy McCarthy]

Hmmmm, I know another club that apparently has a similar problem with players who have been replaced in the first team.

And who's fault is that I wonder?

Indeed. Not something which hints at financial prudence, either, being in an even remotely similar situation to Manchester City.

Of course, not all of our players need to be "replaced", either, as that implies they were actually used in the first place ...

Some of it is MON's fault, some is a by-product of going from 16th, to 11th, to 6th, and gradually being able to attract better players, as will be the case with Man City if they get any better.

[pauliewalnuts]

Having Milner and Ireland here would give us so many more midfield options and allow us to rotate the squad properly. The problem I foresee is that I dont think we have the money to pay his wages without offloading Sidwell, Beye and Heskey.

That's the thing that confuses me about the people who see doing something about the wage bill as tantamount to giving up, and going "sell to buy"

Surely, anyone can see that maybe, maybe if we'd offloaded Sidwell, Beye and Heskey, and got, what, 140k a week off the wage bill, that 140k could have been used to make Milner a super offer and pay Ireland's wages.

It's not just about reducing the bottom line, it must surely also be about making sure the right money goes to the right people. Which I think is pretty much word for word what the General said a while back.

[sfx412]

I wonder if there is a small hope Milner won't sign?

[sfx412]

Having Milner and Ireland here would give us so many more midfield options and allow us to rotate the squad properly. The problem I foresee is that I dont think we have the money to pay his wages without offloading Sidwell, Beye and Heskey.

That's the thing that confuses me about the people who see doing something about the wage bill as tantamount to giving up, and going "sell to buy"

Surely, anyone can see that maybe, maybe if we'd offloaded Sidwell, Beye and Heskey, and got, what, 140k a week off the wage bill, that 140k could have been used to make Milner a super offer and pay Ireland's wages.

It's not just about reducing the bottom line, it must surely also be about making sure the right money goes to the right people. Which I think is pretty much word for word what the General said a while back.

It Should be about all those things.

Is it though ?

[BannedUserIAT]

"Have you seen my neck anywhere? It's about this big...."

[pauliewalnuts]

Hmmmm, I know another club that apparently has a similar problem with players who have been replaced in the first team.

And who's fault is that I wonder?

Indeed. Not something which hints at financial prudence, either, being in an even remotely similar situation to Manchester City.

Of course, not all of our players need to be "replaced", either, as that implies they were actually used in the first place ...

Some of it is MON's fault, some is a by-product of going from 16th, to 11th, to 6th, and gradually being able to attract better players, as will be the case with Man City if they get any better.

That's true, they're not all rubbish, some of them did a job at the time, but how many would you say fall into the "not good enough for us any more" category (as opposed to "not really much good for us at any point" or "never really used much")?

[Ger Regan]

That's true, they're not all rubbish, some of them did a job at the time, but how many would you say fall into the "not good enough for us any more" category (as opposed to "not really much good for us at any point" or "never really used much")?

Of the Heskey, Luke Young, Sidwell, Shorey and Beye group, only Shorey would fall into this category for me. Good at the time, but was now surplus to requirements. At an absolute stretch, Sidwell, but I don't think he played often enough even at the start (injuries apart) to be considered a real first team player. I'm not sure how I'd classify Davies if i'm honest.

[maidstonevillain]

Seem to forget that, it seems at least in the medium term, probably saving a bout £150K a week on a managers, and complete backroom, salary. Plus Shorey's on top.