The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[Monty]

Even better the way he's been treated, he'll be more determined to ram it up them.

It's looking possible that we might end up with Ireland and Milner. Imagine that?

Unlikely. If they reach an agreement with Ireland that means he can go, then there's nothing to stop them meeting our asking price for him. However, there is a scenario where the deadline for Milner passes, we keep up our interest in Ireland and sign him while keeping Ireland. Unlikely, but it would be awesome in the extreme.

[BannedUserIAT]

Oh and there's a press conference with Mancini on SSN at 1pm apparently.
(I've no idea when 1pm is for you lot.)

[BannedUserIAT]

Even better the way he's been treated, he'll be more determined to ram it up them.

It's looking possible that we might end up with Ireland and Milner. Imagine that?

Unlikely. If they reach an agreement with Ireland that means he can go, then there's nothing to stop them meeting our asking price for him. However, there is a scenario where the deadline for Milner passes, we keep up our interest in Ireland and sign him while keeping Ireland. Unlikely, but it would be awesome in the extreme.

It would but you'd imagine that once we've taken Milner off the table, their asking price for Ireland will be around........30 million!

[Mellin]

Nah, Citeh are there for the taking regarding their unwanted players. Could probably have him for a bag of peanuts (have to make sure we don't lose him in there) if we saw fit.

[BannedUserIAT]

Man City will really have to display a show of force with Ireland otherwise it'll just send out a signal to every other player that they've bought, who won't make this current squad or future squads, that they can hold the club to ransom if they're not paid out.

And I'll take a punt that they're going to have an awful lot of expensive merchandise that's awfully pissed off over the next few seasons. I'd even wager that someone will be putting his hand up next season for some early custard-money.

[jonzy85]

Also, any money they get for Ireland is a profit as he came through their youth system...unlike Bellamy, Robinho or Santa Cruz who they are going to take a massive hit on.

If Mancini lets Ireland come to Villa and he is a success and then City struggle, there will be massive pressure on him from the fans.

Even though he is from Cork, I think the City fans regard him as one of their own because he came through the ranks and he certainly was a fans favourite.

I really hope it all blows up in their faces.

[Monty]

Just look at the transfer values being mooted. The deal has been reported as £16-18m + Ireland for Milner. Now, City think that that deal would be worth £26m, thus valuing Ireland at £8-10m. However, we wouldn't go for a deal of less than £30m value, so we seem to value Ireland at £12-14m. If we were to sign Ireland independently past the Milner deadline, I don't think we'd break our transfer record.

[jonzy85]

Man City will really have to display a show of force with Ireland otherwise it'll just send out a signal to every other player that they've bought, who won't make this current squad or future squads, that they can hold the club to ransom if they're not paid out.

And I'll take a punt that they're going to have an awful lot of expensive merchandise that's awfully pissed off over the next few seasons. I'd even wager that someone will be putting his hand up next season for some early custard-money.

Barry should have known when he signed that after any modicum of success, he would be improved on. Barring injuries to other players I see him and his sizeble arse spending quite a bit of time on the bench this year.

[Ger Regan]

Man City will really have to display a show of force with Ireland otherwise it'll just send out a signal to every other player that they've bought, who won't make this current squad or future squads, that they can hold the club to ransom if they're not paid out.

They don't have a leg to stand on though. They should have known the risks when signing up players on high value long term contracts. If they didn't, tough.

[Somniloquism]

Oh and there's a press conference with Mancini on SSN at 1pm apparently.
(I've no idea when 1pm is for you lot.)

Hopefully it is either a Pre-European match one or a Bellamy gone on loan one.

[mrjae]

I just hope that Ireland continues to dig his heels in, Scuppers the deal. Thursday comes along Milner plays in Europe and the deal is off. 

[richardhubbard]

I hope he stays and Ireland joins us on loan , that would make my bloody day

[Ger Regan]

I just hope that Ireland continues to dig his heels in, Scuppers the deal. Thursday comes along Milner plays in Europe and the deal is off. 

That will only be a positive (as someone else has said i think) if Milner signs a contract extension. Otherwise, we'll have a player with one year on his contract still wanting to leave.

[richardhubbard]

If shitty lose next game I reckon Manwanki will be gone.

The dressing seems fractured with Given , Ireland and Bellamy

He has been fucking up the Milner deal

They were really shit on Saturday.

[mshurst]

Back to Milner for a minute...

I think the reason Milner has released this ultimatum is because of MON. While MON was in charge he wanted to sell Milner to get the cash. He needed it and saw Milner as our highest earning single sale.

Now that MON has gone and KMac wants to 'start fresh' he wants Milner to stay in the squad. And I don't blame him. Although KMac has been with us for a long time I don't think he'd know which players to buy, thus using what he's got to its full potential. I seriously think with the younger players (Albrighton, Delfon, Clark, etc.) emerging as real threats we'll do alright this year. Don't get me wrong - I'd love some new signings but I think Albrighton and Delfon are really starting to get into PL football now. I was more than impressed with Albrighton on Saturday.

If we do get rid of Milner then it'd be a different story. But watching his reaction on Saturday when he scored he definitely looked like a player who did not want to go anywhere, and who can blame him? I'm ready for disappointment, but I can honestly see him staying now.


With regards to Ireland...

I think he should leave City, and he's clearly made it obvious he wants to. I don't blame him one bit for wanting £2m, he knows they have the money and he'll probably get it. And the end of the day, they pushed him out of the squad so he might as well take what he can.

With Ireland and Milner together then we'd have a seriously threatening midfield. Especially with the likes of Young, Downing (who played really well against the Hammers), Albrighton, Delph, etc., ready to play at any point I think we're seriously on to a winner.


The problem with Man City is this:

Good players don't make a team good. A good team does.

And, IMHO, if you've got 15 translators in your dressing room then something brown and smell is going to hit the fan.