I know none of you care but ........ (the Baseball thread)

[joe_c]

The A's Dallas Braden pitches just the 19th "Perfect Game" in MLB history. 27 up and 27 down.

Not only that, he did it against the Tampa Rays, the best team in baseball.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7936873


Take that A-Rod !!

This Braden guy is annoying.  First he attacks arod and acts ike a baby over a made up rule, then he acts like "I showed him!" when he pitched a perfect game.

The thing is, Arod never had a beef with him.  The beef was ALWAYS Braden going after Arod.

Why?  He was trying to make a name for himself.

Well he pitched a perfect game, and now he has a name for himsef, so what des he do? He attacks Arod MORE?!?!?!

What a hack.

two things:

1) He wouldn't have done this to Jeter.  HE picked on Arod because he knew it was easy as Arod is disiked all over the league.  it's ike shooting a deer in a cage.

2) He pitched a perfect game and that is great, but did anyone see it?  68 mph fastballs?  Only 9 swinging strikes (I'm pretty sure it was 9, may have been 6)? more bats on balls than any game this year?  Sounds like he may owe a thank you to the fielders doesn't it?

The link shows all the outs and all but one or two looked pretty routine so the fielders weren't that much of a factor in my humble, deeply inexpert opinion.

[UK Redsox]

You coming to see our new Death Star this year?

Yep, two Mariners @ Highlanders games at the end of next month

[UK Redsox]

The Royals to win the lot.

Just not with Trey Hillman as their manager

Ned Yost replaces Hillman

[H00513R]

A-Rod is a prick, pure and simple. He should know better as those "unwritten rules" have a long and established position in baseball. That being said, some players (and I personally) don't agree with all of them. I've been having a big debate about when bunting is "allowed" during a perfect/No Hitter game. I feel like it's always allowed and the pitcher/team needs to earn every out. But some feel it's bad form. I guess each their own.

ummm

I never heard of this particular unwritten rule and payers calling all the stations said the same thing.  Never heard the "rule".

The reason you have never seen a player do it before is because with dugouts diagnolly placed, the only chance for this to happen is when a plalyer needs to go from third to first, which is essentially never.

But I am down with this.  People who want to have a go at Arod are going to doo it no matter what.

The guy threw a temper tantrum because he wanted attention.


As for bunting, I think it IS "allowed" in a no hitter, because bunting is essentially about advancing a runner, and the player runs the 50/50 shot of being tagged out.

That being said, if I was a player, I wouldn't be comfortable doing it in the 8th or the 9th inning in a no hitter.  You are gonna get a lot of flack for it, and if the game isn't on the line, do you really need to?


I remember a few years ago, and I forget who they were playing, but the Phillies own Jimmy Rollins had his base hit streak going and he had not had a hit in this particular game, and he had walked twice.  Well it was his last at bat, and the pitcher was intentionally walking him.  Threw out two balls, real wide.  Again, I foroget who the manager was, but the manager came out to the mound and told the pitcher to throw a strike and give the guy a chance to at least hit the ball.

 Jimmy did get that hit btw.

Braden definitely acted like a 5 year old, but you'll almost never see it (even if they are in the path of the mound). The only one I can remember doing it is A. J. Pierzynski. He has done it just to piss people off lol.

The difference I think in the Rollins example is that the pitcher was intentionally trying to not let him get a hit for the streak. Why else would the manager get mad about it? With bunting during a PG or NH, it's hard to tell if the player is trying to break it up or just want a man on. Touchy subject to be sure, and if you do bunt in the 8th or 9th, be sure to duck next time up!

[H00513R]

The Royals to win the lot.

Just not with Trey Hillman as their manager

Ned Yost replaces Hillman

Won't make any difference. They are basically a team of White Sox cast-offs.

[jeff]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

[UK Redsox]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

There's been a lot of attention on the Yankees' "core four" this year.

Jeter and Mo are clearly first-ballot HOF'ers. Any one who doesn't vote for them should have their voting rights revoked.

As for Andy and Jorge, the case is not quite do clear cut but I'd still say "yes" to both of them.

[jeff]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

There's been a lot of attention on the Yankees' "core four" this year.

Jeter and Mo are clearly first-ballot HOF'ers. Any one who doesn't vote for them should have their voting rights revoked.

As for Andy and Jorge, the case is not quite do clear cut but I'd still say "yes" to both of them.

Jeter is a legend and I can't think of a single player I would have ahead of him over the last 10 years. Even when there was ARod, Nomar and Jeter battling it out for best AL shortstop I would of had him above all of them. Just because he leads the team so well.

Mo is the hammer of God. I dont think anyone will ever be as successful with essentially one pitch! everyone knows whats coming but no one seems to be able to handle it.

Andy's post season record is great and for a player who has never really been an ace he is a great game 2 guy.

Jorge has had to compete with first Girardi to get into the team then with Pudge and Varitek to be the best catcher.

[pmarachi]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

I love Andy Pettite, but I don't think anyone who has been found to have taken PED's shoud be in the hall of fame.

I don't want to have the "everyone did it" argument.  If you have been found to have definitely taken a PED, I don't think you should be there.

[pmarachi]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

There's been a lot of attention on the Yankees' "core four" this year.

Jeter and Mo are clearly first-ballot HOF'ers. Any one who doesn't vote for them should have their voting rights revoked.

As for Andy and Jorge, the case is not quite do clear cut but I'd still say "yes" to both of them.

Jeter is a legend and I can't think of a single player I would have ahead of him over the last 10 years. Even when there was ARod, Nomar and Jeter battling it out for best AL shortstop I would of had him above all of them. Just because he leads the team so well.

Mo is the hammer of God. I dont think anyone will ever be as successful with essentially one pitch! everyone knows whats coming but no one seems to be able to handle it.

Andy's post season record is great and for a player who has never really been an ace he is a great game 2 guy.

Jorge has had to compete with first Girardi to get into the team then with Pudge and Varitek to be the best catcher.

And now that Cervelli is batting a million...

[pmarachi]

You coming to see our new Death Star this year?

Yep, two Mariners @ Highlanders games at the end of next month

I may be at that Wednesday night game too

[evalast1910]

Since I got back from America I do enjoy baseball. All I can say is...

LETS GO REDSOX!

[H00513R]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

I don't think he makes it. The rings are nice, but his ERA of 3.89 would be the worst in the HOF. He does have over 2,000 Ks and over 232 wins though. I guess it will depend on if he sticks around a little longer. 250+ wins would really help his case.

[pmarachi]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

I don't think he makes it. The rings are nice, but his ERA of 3.89 would be the worst in the HOF. He does have over 2,000 Ks and over 232 wins though. I guess it will depend on if he sticks around a little longer. 250+ wins would really help his case.

if he could pull a 15 win season at his age, that would be great.

Getting above 250 is going to be hard.

[H00513R]

I'm just watching ESPN and it the Yankees Vs The Twins, Pettite is pitching and it reminded me of a discussion I had with 2 mates of mine after the last world series 1 of them is a Cubs fan the other is a White Sox fan.

Andy Pettite hall of famer or not?

We all came to the conclusion he has got to be mainly on his post season record 4 rings etc..

What does everyone else think?

I don't think he makes it. The rings are nice, but his ERA of 3.89 would be the worst in the HOF. He does have over 2,000 Ks and over 232 wins though. I guess it will depend on if he sticks around a little longer. 250+ wins would really help his case.

if he could pull a 15 win season at his age, that would be great.

Getting above 250 is going to be hard.

His record should have been 234, not 232. He has gotten to 14 wins the past 2 seasons and is 5-0 this year. The biggest thing he has going for him is that he's on the Yankees. It's doable, but I'm surprised he's lasted this long. Must be the PEDs...