I know none of you care but ........ (the Baseball thread)

[UK Redsox]

A-Rod linked to steroids

Wow...........................

We knew A-Rod was self-centred, unpopular with his team mates, and partial to some musical-MILF but he was also meant to be the guy who would make us forget about Bonds, Giambi, Clemens and baseball's "Steroid Era" in general.

[pmarachi]

A-Rod linked to steroids

Wow...........................

We knew A-Rod was self-centred, unpopular with his team mates, and partial to some musical-MILF but he was also meant to be the guy who would make us forget about Bonds, Giambi, Clemens and baseball's "Steroid Era" in general.

Still my favorite player.

He just needs to admit it.

I also don't think anyone who tests positive should be in the HOF.
As much as I like the guy, I think the insanity needs to stop somewhere.

[UK Redsox]

A-Rod linked to steroids

Wow...........................Still my favorite player.

He just needs to admit it.

I also don't think anyone who tests positive should be in the HOF.
As much as I like the guy, I think the insanity needs to stop somewhere.

And admit it he has

Well done Alex for admitting you cheated BUT why wait until you were caught ? (see his interview with Katie Curic a couple of yeards ago where he denies ever using PED's)

[pmarachi]

yeah, but no one is going to come out and admit before they are caught.

Let's not make it look like everyone else is coming out and admitting it right off the bat.

I'm bummed out, but I am glad he just manned up, and didn't pull the old "I only tried it once, and I got caught" garbage.


I do think he gets a hard time.
I have an article written by a Boston writer.  I will find it and post it.

Despite the fact that it is written by someone from the worst city in the world, it's actually very good.

[pmarachi]

a good article from a boston writer (no seriously)
 
Tony Massarotti of the Boston Globe:

So now we have it, the Great American Scandal. Alex Rodriguez meets Steroids. Finally, we have an intersection of our soap operatic A-Rod obsession and the plague that infected our national pastime.

Here's how we should know that we've had enough: Some of us are starting to feel compassion for him. Don't know about the rest of you folks, but some of us out here have long since run out of outrage. It was long taken by everyone from Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens to Mark McGwire and Rafael Palmeiro. Now into the mix comes Rodriguez, a prototype for the psychologically and emotionally damaged megastar whose existence has played out before the American public like the life of Jim Carrey in "The Truman Show."

For the moment, here's the biggest problem: There reportedly were 103 other names on that list. Who are the others? Why don't we know? Is it even remotely possible that Rodriguez's name appears on a list with 103 utility men and bit players, that he is the only notable presence among a cast of extras and stand-ins?

Or has it reached the point now that we get to pick and choose whom we decide to smear, deconstruct and castigate?

Before anyone jumps to conclusions, nobody is suggesting that Rodriguez is innocent here. That's not the point. But he's not even close to being alone. Had the Boston Globe or New York Times or ESPN received the same information that Sports Illustrated received about Rodriguez failing a drug test during the 2003 season, we all would have printed it out of professional obligation. At the same time, we cannot help but wonder why certain sources selected Rodriguez's name from a list of 104 and streamlined it to the nation when 103 others effectively were ignored.

Here in Boston, save for the affair involving Patriots safety Rodney Harrison, we have been surprisingly immune from performance-enhancing crimes in the world of professional sports. (Harrison served a four-game suspension in 2007 after admitting that he used human growth hormone.) Even then, more than a few Englanders defended Harrison's actions by suggesting he was merely trying to recover from an injury so that he return to the field more quickly, apologists turning a blind eye to the sins of their own.

As for any transgressions that have taken place at Fenway Park, let's not fool ourselves. There must have been at least some deceit. When Major League Baseball released the Mitchell Report late in 2007, details included an e-mail from Theo Epstein concerning the possible steroid use of reliever Eric Gagne -- the Sox made a trade for Gagne anyway -- and a photocopy of a personal check written in 2001 by former Sox first baseman Mo Vaughn to known steroids dealer and former New York Mets clubhouse attendant Kirk Radomski. Vaughn declined to speak to Mitchell, and so we can only wonder if Vaughn was using performance enhancers during the 1995 and 1996 seasons, his peak years in Boston, which included one Most Valuable Player Award (1995).

In 2003, the year of Rodriguez's alleged steroid use, Rodriguez won the MVP. It was after that season that the Red Sox tried to trade for him. The results of testing conducted that season were intended to remain anonymous and were for the singular purpose of implementing a new testing policy. According to the SI report, a total of 1,198 players were tested, meaning that 8.8 percent were caught using some form of illegal substance. Know what 8.8 percent translates into? About two players per 25-man roster, about 3.5 players per 40-man. Keep that in mind before arguing that the Red Sox took the field with a cast of altar boys.

[UK Redsox]

a good article from a boston writer (no seriously)

What's wrong with the writing of Bob Ryan and Dan Shaunessey ?

[UK Redsox]

The A-Rod steroids story is so important that it requires a comment from President Obama

[pmarachi]

Bob "I think Jason Kidd's wife should be smacked" Ryan?

He is actually good, knows his baseball, and despite living in the worst place in America, and rooting for the enemy, I can't say anything bad about him.


Shaugnessy on the hand is a joke.

Here is a funny site that someone showed me during the playoffs in 2004

http://danshaughnessy.blogspot.com/

"We Read Dan Shaughnessy So You Don't Have To"

[HTFCacc2007]

I've heard on DigitalSpy that the BBC have picked up the rights from five this year for the MLB.

I assume this would only relate to the highlight packages and the late night Sunday game but could be intresting! ESPN America still have all the other rights.

[UK Redsox]

I've heard on DigitalSpy that the BBC have picked up the rights from five this year for the MLB.

I assume this would only relate to the highlight packages and the late night Sunday game but could be intresting! ESPN America still have all the other rights.

Its a shame if Five have lost the MLB rights. They've done a great job over the years (although they never really replaced Todd Macklin).

Prior to Five's MLB coverage (and the one season that Channel 4 did just before) I used to order tapes from "Pontel" or have them mailed over by contacts Stateside.

Since the advent of MLB.com my watching of full games of Five and NASN (Now ESPN America) has diminished considerably, its much easier (and time efficient) to watch their highlights packages.

[UK Redsox]

"A-Roid" faces the media

Not a great performance from Mr Madonna, yet another version of events and more new questions than answers.

If Alex and the Yankees thought that one press conference would get the media off the case, there's no chance of that now.

[gerags]

"A-Roid" faces the media

Not a great performance from Mr Madonna, yet another version of events and more new questions than answers.

If Alex and the Yankees thought that one press conference would get the media off the case, there's no chance of that now.

Just got back from the States last Saturday and this is huge news over there. Another player (can't remember his name) was tested positive several times and each time the results were 'ignored'.

Over a hundred players tested positive and the powers that be saying they had the list of players but weren't aware of what the list was for. It's been a massive cover up.

Though a 'discussion' programme raised the issue that the majority of fans are not rushing to the grounds burning their season tickets or protesting the injustice and unfairness of banned steroids. In fact it seems that they've accepted that this is a regular occurance.

[UK Redsox]

Though a 'discussion' programme raised the issue that the majority of fans are not rushing to the grounds burning their season tickets or protesting the injustice and unfairness of banned steroids. In fact it seems that they've accepted that this is a regular occurance.

Exactly. Is not stopping me spending far too much money to watch another ten games this season. In fact, all the steroid drama justs adds to my interest.

[gerags]

Though a 'discussion' programme raised the issue that the majority of fans are not rushing to the grounds burning their season tickets or protesting the injustice and unfairness of banned steroids. In fact it seems that they've accepted that this is a regular occurance.

Exactly. Is not stopping me spending far too much money to watch another ten games this season. In fact, all the steroid drama justs adds to my interest.

In that case, do you think there should be a complete lift on drugs in this sport and let everyone do what they like ?
An even playing field as such ?

I think this is the only other alternative as the current bans obviously don't work.

[UK Redsox]

In that case, do you think there should be a complete lift on drugs in this sport and let everyone do what they like ?
An even playing field as such ?

I think this is the only other alternative as the current bans obviously don't work.

The problem with lifting bans is that possession of the drugs in question is itself illegal.

Eg the drug that A-Roid is supposed to have tested positive for back in 2003 wasn't even available on prescription in the USA let alone as an over-the-counter product.

However, the statute of limitations on any narcotics possession charge has apparently now run out.