Claret Blue and Green
Quote from: ChicagoLion on December 22, 2022, 08:11:33 AMQuote from: amfy on December 21, 2022, 08:29:54 PMQuote from: Risso on December 21, 2022, 07:47:32 PMQuote from: amfy on December 21, 2022, 06:53:22 PMI don’t disagree that we could do with more trophies but that perception is odd as Everton last won the league only 5 years after us in the 80s & last won a trophy a year before our last one.I think Everton only have a more prestigious image in some people’s minds because they are seen alongside Liverpool, whereas we…..I'd argue the opposite, I think Everton are firmly in the shadow of their neighbours and the other North West clubs, whereas we're by far the biggest club outside of the North West and London.I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I am saying Everton receive reflected glory from a neighbouring club who have been much more successful in our lifetime. We have only our own success to rely on for our reputation as there is no one in the region to drag us into the headlines alongside them. Neither us nor Everton have enough recent success to have a big reputation under our own steam.How does that work for Small Heath.?That is exactly my point. No reflected glory for us.
Quote from: amfy on December 21, 2022, 08:29:54 PMQuote from: Risso on December 21, 2022, 07:47:32 PMQuote from: amfy on December 21, 2022, 06:53:22 PMI don’t disagree that we could do with more trophies but that perception is odd as Everton last won the league only 5 years after us in the 80s & last won a trophy a year before our last one.I think Everton only have a more prestigious image in some people’s minds because they are seen alongside Liverpool, whereas we…..I'd argue the opposite, I think Everton are firmly in the shadow of their neighbours and the other North West clubs, whereas we're by far the biggest club outside of the North West and London.I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I am saying Everton receive reflected glory from a neighbouring club who have been much more successful in our lifetime. We have only our own success to rely on for our reputation as there is no one in the region to drag us into the headlines alongside them. Neither us nor Everton have enough recent success to have a big reputation under our own steam.How does that work for Small Heath.?
Quote from: Risso on December 21, 2022, 07:47:32 PMQuote from: amfy on December 21, 2022, 06:53:22 PMI don’t disagree that we could do with more trophies but that perception is odd as Everton last won the league only 5 years after us in the 80s & last won a trophy a year before our last one.I think Everton only have a more prestigious image in some people’s minds because they are seen alongside Liverpool, whereas we…..I'd argue the opposite, I think Everton are firmly in the shadow of their neighbours and the other North West clubs, whereas we're by far the biggest club outside of the North West and London.I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I am saying Everton receive reflected glory from a neighbouring club who have been much more successful in our lifetime. We have only our own success to rely on for our reputation as there is no one in the region to drag us into the headlines alongside them. Neither us nor Everton have enough recent success to have a big reputation under our own steam.
Quote from: amfy on December 21, 2022, 06:53:22 PMI don’t disagree that we could do with more trophies but that perception is odd as Everton last won the league only 5 years after us in the 80s & last won a trophy a year before our last one.I think Everton only have a more prestigious image in some people’s minds because they are seen alongside Liverpool, whereas we…..I'd argue the opposite, I think Everton are firmly in the shadow of their neighbours and the other North West clubs, whereas we're by far the biggest club outside of the North West and London.
I don’t disagree that we could do with more trophies but that perception is odd as Everton last won the league only 5 years after us in the 80s & last won a trophy a year before our last one.I think Everton only have a more prestigious image in some people’s minds because they are seen alongside Liverpool, whereas we…..
Everton receive more attention because of the status of their neighbours, we receive less because of ours.
