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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on February 25, 2025, 06:15:32 PM
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A lot of firepower on the bench but a very conservative line up to start.
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Well I didn't expect Bogarde to be starting. Interesting.
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Powerful looking bench there.
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Well, he's using the squad! Fucking amazing bench, so I hope we're not a coupe of goals down by the time it gets used!
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Cash re-injured again?
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Cash re-injured again?
Must be
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A lot of firepower on the bench but a very conservative line up to start.
Agreed, surprised to see Bogarde start.
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I thought Disasi was a right sided centre half? If he can play left sided that helps a lot. Plenty to come on from the bench when defenders are tiring.
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Surprised to see all of Rashford, Asensio and Malen on the bench. Second half should be very interesting.
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
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really suprised , was thinking Rogers on the bench to be fair and start Rashfod , ramsay starting and really think Malen deserves a start . Seems Rogers is undropable.
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
Well colour me surprised
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Powerful looking bench there.
Still no sign of the three missing central midfielders though.
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I would have started one of Rashford or Asensio but in Emery we trust.
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I'm guessing we're just going to try and contain them for an hour before hitting them with the big guns.
Not much pace in that starting line up.
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Expected to see Rashford start, also surprised to see bogarde - but I guess Rogers back at 10 - wasnt enjoying him on the right.
Think will be a tough game - there in good form.
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This lineup screams “don’t give up an early goal.”
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Is half seven the new 7:45 kick-off time? Same for the game with Liverpool last week.
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I thought Disasi was a right sided centre half? If he can play left sided that helps a lot. Plenty to come on from the bench when defenders are tiring.
Played at Monaco in this position and very well
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Looks like we’ll sit in. Not sure that’s our skill set.
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We have lost 6/8 away in league
Not surprised starting line up is somewhat conservative
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Is half seven the new 7:45 kick-off time? Same for the game with Liverpool last week.
Think it’s a time for when there are multiple live games on TV.
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Yes - 6/8 is a problem. I’m good with the lineup. I’d also like to see Ramsey get a goal.
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
Well colour me surprised
🤣
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Will be interesting to se if that defence line up is better than lately - here is hoping. I guess Bogarde is DM with Tielemans and McGinn out right. Might be that Emery go for a defensive line up from start and firepower comes on when needed - part of plan to not use too much energy as we have two games a week.
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We have lost 6/8 away in league
Not surprised starting line up is somewhat conservative
I think it's also designed with Palace's 5-2-3 / 3-4-3 formation in mind.
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
Well colour me surprised
You have a very wierd obsession with me. You ok hun?
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I might be wrong, but it’s a very keep it tight and disciplined type of starting line up and then batter them with our speed and directness when they get tired.
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I might be wrong, but it’s a very keep it tight and disciplined type of starting line up and then batter them with our speed and directness when they get tired.
I think you’re right, let’s hope it works.
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
Well colour me surprised
You have a very wierd obsession with me. You ok hun?
Don't flatter yourself sweetie
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I might be wrong, but it’s a very keep it tight and disciplined type of starting line up and then batter them with our speed and directness when they get tired.
I hope thats the game plan but my worry is that we dont really cope well with intense pressure well. If we get in to half time withoyt losing we would have agreat chance second half with the options on the bench
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
Well colour me surprised
You have a very wierd obsession with me. You ok hun?
Don't flatter yourself sweetie
Play nicely, children.
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Hopefully Bogey is a CB and it's a back five.
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Well I agree with *checks notes. Clears throat* Demitri. I don't like the look of that at all when you consider the alternatives, and that Rogers must be absolutely fucked.
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SJM on the right to give Garcia some help as Rogers left Cash very exposed on Saturday.
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
Well colour me surprised
You have a very wierd obsession with me. You ok hun?
Don't flatter yourself sweetie
I only give autographs after 10pm i am afraid
Signed photos ill have to charge you =)
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Funny as a fair few thought since we can't defend Unai was just going to go all out attack and outscore them. You score two, we'll score three kind of thing. That line up says the opposite.
I'm guessing so many games in a short amount of time come into his thinking though
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Surprised at that lineup too. Has Mateta brace before halftime written all over it. Quite the bench though.
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I might be wrong, but it’s a very keep it tight and disciplined type of starting line up and then batter them with our speed and directness when they get tired.
We can replace the front 3 and have a spare too.
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really suprised , was thinking Rogers on the bench to be fair and start Rashfod , ramsay starting and really think Malen deserves a start . Seems Rogers is undropable.
Rogers and Watkins will always be patched up and sent out to start. I thought both looked very tired v Chelsea. Strange selection but picked to battle.
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Someone tell PWS I'm not speaking to him, please.
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Someone tell PWS I'm not speaking to him, please.
:-*
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Well I agree with *checks notes. Clears throat* Demitri. I don't like the look of that at all when you consider the alternatives, and that Rogers must be absolutely fucked.
This season we've generally been shit in the first half (except when we weren't), I think Unai likes to really come alive for the last 10-15 minutes of the game, sending everybody home happy, waxing lyrical on how brilliant we were.
Not sure if you noticed at the end of the Chelsea game but Asensio was completely and utterly knackered, it was his first full PL game and it showed. Good on him, he gave it his all but I suspect Uncle Unai is trying to give him a bit of a rest. Plus he never drops Rogers or Bodgers. ;)
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Got to be honest i do not like this lineup
Suprised bith asenio and rashford on bench
Well colour me surprised
You have a very wierd obsession with me. You ok hun?
Don't flatter yourself sweetie
I only give autographs after 10pm i am afraid
Signed photos ill have to charge you =)
I said behave.
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We have lost 6/8 away in league
Not surprised starting line up is somewhat conservative
I think it's also designed with Palace's 5-2-3 / 3-4-3 formation in mind.
I think you are right, try and outnumber them centrally.
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Any game plan goes out the window if we concede with thier first attack
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Thing with Rogers, often when you're thinking he's looked knackered and should be left out, he comes up with a big performance.
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Hope Rogers isn't too knackered.
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If we still on a high after the Chelsea win ( like we been after most big wins this season) then we will get stuffed. We need to work hard and play right from the start.
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Thing with Rogers, often when you're thinking he's looked knackered and should be left out, he comes up with a big performance.
Agreed….he seems to get stronger in the later stages of every game despite looking knackered after 20 minutes.
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Hopefully just for a change we won't go behind after 10 mins, happy with the team, Mateta is obviously the danger man, has been in superb form this year, also Adam Wharton is starting.
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Here we go, must win game, every game is now, but we start the possible attack on the top 4 places right here. It could be done depending on other results, Newcastle Chelsea or Bournemouth lose or draw and we are in
C'mon you Villa boys
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Let's smash these south east twats.
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They don't usually have fireworks, must be for the Villa.
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What a poxy ground
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What a poxy ground
The away end is the worst in the Prem by a long way. The rest of the ground is ok
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Looking like 3-5-2 at the moment
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What a poxy ground
The away end is the worst in the Prem by a long way. The rest of the ground is ok
I think they are rebuilding that side.
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Ref not being fussy about where throw ins are taken from...
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Looking like 3-5-2 at the moment
Agreed
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Is this a small pitch? Doesn't seem to be any space when we attack.
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Bloody Hell, a dodgy decision in our favour. It'll never last.
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Great run by SJM there. And a wrong decision goes our way. Auspices
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
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Is this a small pitch? Doesn't seem to be any space when we attack.
Same width, 4 metres shorter than VP.
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
Palace as we know it are 'recent' but their roots are before we existed.
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
I think they're one of the oldest clubs in the world.
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We've set up to strangle their midfield. SFSG
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
I think they're one of the oldest clubs in the world.
Disappeared for 30 years from 1875-1905, though.
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
Founded 1905.
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Ollie would be some player if he had a first touch.
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
Founded 1905.
Founded in the twentieth century = a big no, no from me. How classless.
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Didnt they also try to introduce cheerleaders as part of that laughable 'team of the 80s' thing?
I don't like them.
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1-0 Brighton
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Villa have a link to their formation.
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That Watkins first touch is exquisite.
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Villa have a link to their formation.
Yeah, I saw that when I googled them for the 1905 thing.
I sketched over it in my dismissal of them. Much as our role in the formation of MK Dons.
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
Founded 1905.
Founded in the twentieth century = a big no, no from me. How classless.
They tried to claim that they're a continuation of an old team called Crystal Palace, which would make them the oldest club in the world. It's utter bollocks, though.
Other than that, I've never really minded them. Apart from their annoying tendency to beat us.
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
Founded 1905.
Founded in the twentieth century = a big no, no from me. How classless.
Chelsea were also founded in 1905. Just sayin'.
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Hughes always strikes me as an annoying twat.
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Do you have the misfortune of Tony Gale on co-comms in the UK or is it just the US being subjected to his endless nonsense?
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There's always been something sort of plasticky, gimmicky and manufactured about Crystal Palace. I've no idea how old they are as a club, and can't be arsed to google, but they always come across as a bit of a modern era (in football terms) thing.
Even their 'big' rivalry with Brighton is laughably fake.
Founded 1905.
Founded in the twentieth century = a big no, no from me. How classless.
Chelsea were also founded in 1905. Just sayin'.
Indeed, the ultimate example.
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Hughes always strikes me as an annoying twat.
Isn't he a bad racist, too?
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Leipzig even worse
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Currently 2 points between 4th and 10th
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Hughes always strikes me as an annoying twat.
Isn't he a bad racist, too?
Must admit, I haven't heard that.
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Bogarde seems to be covering every position on the pitch at the moment - taking the utility tag quite literally.
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Hughes always strikes me as an annoying twat.
Isn't he a bad racist, too?
Must admit, I haven't heard that.
Assume he means Lee?!
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Hughes always strikes me as an annoying twat.
Isn't he a bad racist, too?
Must admit, I haven't heard that.
I might be wrong.
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Hughes always strikes me as an annoying twat.
Isn't he a bad racist, too?
Must admit, I haven't heard that.
Is there a good racist?
Mussolini, bit dodgy but lovely tailored suits.
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Who is the stunningly beautiful young lady on the bench? Asking for a friend
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
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Who is the stunningly beautiful young lady on the bench? Asking for a friend
Austin MacPhee, set piece coach.
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Who is the stunningly beautiful young lady on the bench? Asking for a friend
Austin MacPhee.
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Bogarde seems to be covering every position on the pitch at the moment - taking the utility tag quite literally.
I better ask him for an energy supply quote in that case.
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Too slow, BV.
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
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Is digne wearing a cloak of invisibility?
At least 2 great overlapping runs ignored
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Yep. I'm sure they appreciate the irony.
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
Homophobes - they don't like it up em
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Too slow, BV.
Only because it bloody autocorrected to McPhee first. Grrrr.
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Do other teams' players slip over as much as ours?
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Nearly done a bloody goal, then.
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What a cross by garcia. Youri should do better
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Do other teams' players slip over as much as ours?
Some Chelsea player did on Saturday and I commented on how unknown it was to the bloke next to me.
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
If i were running the country, I'd make Farage change his name to Nigel Small Boats.
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Nice left foot cross from Garcia, obviously taking lessons from Matt Cash.
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Lovely pass out from Disasi and lovely cross from Garcia
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
If i were running the country, I'd make Farage change his name to Nigel Small Boats.
I remember when UKIP were run by a bloke called Dick Braine.
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Disasi thus far looks good on the ball, can find a pass.
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We could really do without Konsa being injured, especially if Cash is again.
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We’re doing ok but need to be sharper in the final third.
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Great pass Ollie but offside from JJ
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Rogers not in the game to this point .
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
If i were running the country, I'd make Farage change his name to Nigel Small Boats.
I remember when UKIP were run by a bloke called Dick Braine.
I once saw an undertaker called Robin Graves
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I agree with the selection tonight. He’s probably going to put the full armoury out on Friday to get a win done early if possible so he can sub them.
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
If i were running the country, I'd make Farage change his name to Nigel Small Boats.
I remember when UKIP were run by a bloke called Dick Braine.
I once saw an undertaker called Robin Graves
I went to college with a girl called Jo King. I don't know if she became a comedian in later life, so that's where my anecdote ends.
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Argh ramsey man u shouldnt have been off there
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
If i were running the country, I'd make Farage change his name to Nigel Small Boats.
I remember when UKIP were run by a bloke called Dick Braine.
I once saw an undertaker called Robin Graves
There’s a solicitors in leamington called Wright Hassell.
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It’s poor to be offside there JJ
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Ref needs to think about bookings for Hughes and Munoz soon, both are happy to kick the man if they can't get the ball.
Unlucky for Ramsey there, needed the pass slightly sooner.
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Guehi is a homophobe, if that helps.
Who, Marc Gay? Like Idrissa Gana Gay?
If i were running the country, I'd make Farage change his name to Nigel Small Boats.
I remember when UKIP were run by a bloke called Dick Braine.
I once saw an undertaker called Robin Graves
I like that. The name, not the pastime.
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I can’t get a trickle working tonight so am just following on here. How are we doing so far?
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Do you have the misfortune of Tony Gale on co-comms in the UK or is it just the US being subjected to his endless nonsense?
Lucy Ward on mine
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Chewing with his mouth open like that, I'd have benched Asensio. Not on.
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Got to time that run better wasn't a difficult one
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Ramsey really needs to work on staying onside.
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1-0 Sarr
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And there it is.
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Crap
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1-0 Sarr
Our speciality work. Coming from behind when we’ve been dominating the game but have let in something too easily. Bloody annoying
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First chance first goal
Its just the same shit every week
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Right, get some attackers on now then, please.
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Bollocks!
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Fuck.
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Came from a rebound from their first shot on target.
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It keeps happening FFS
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not sure it was even a corner but mcginn giving it away
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FFS. We’ve been so much the better side
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Every fucking time
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Every week ffs
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No matter how we set up, we'll concede the first bloody goal
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VAR
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We had the ball in their half, knocking it around nicely and then decided to play back towards our goal.
Self inflicted again
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Fucking hell Villa. Pick a side full of defenders and still melt at the first spot of pressure.
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Their 1sr shot FFS
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Bollocks.
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Well I don't think any of us thought we'd keep a clean sheet did we?
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Pretty poor again from Emi
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Is this shit scripted? First shot from the opposition first goal. FFS
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Poor by Martinez.
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I just don't get why we can't get right at teams from the get go, we do the same thing with the same players week in week out
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As usual absolutely terrible goal to concede. There is no point trying to contain a game if you give up terrible goals.
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Maybe 6 at the back would be better.
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That was the first bit of palace pressure or real attack and we concede. We are just so soft defensively
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Why are we so bad a this shithole? Going right back to Wimbledon groundsharing here I've never known us ve comfortable here!
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Fucking typical. Yet again, a player who hasn't scored for weeks.
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Standard Villa.
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Too familiar.
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Every game. Every fucking game.
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Maybe 6 at the back would be better.
I just WhatsApped that to ADNOBHEAD.
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Fucking hell.
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Going for an inplay win with draw saver...
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Maybe 6 at the back would be better.
A goalkeeper would help.
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This is going to be real hard work to come back from this one.
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Poor defending, get rid of the fucking ball
stop fucking about at the back
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He really isn't having a good season, Emi.
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I was walking through Harborne high st and a bloke walked up to me speaking in a foreign language and said something like "clean sheet" - i said sorry mate dont know what youre fucking talking about.
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Been doing OK and then concede a really soft goal. The player who headed it was in way too much space on our box.
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That’s a shitter we were in total control
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BBC questioning whether Emi should have done better.
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Jesus someone needs booking for Palace.
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Are we a charity? Always making it hard for ourselves.
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MArtinez needs to give his head a wobble some games
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Fuck me, nothing changes.
Shouldn't have been allowed to get the cross in
Shouldnt have got a header
Emi - powder puff push
Who wasn't tracking back
4 reasons why we conceded.
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McGinn at fault initially giving the ball away cheap, but dear oh dear the marking for the cross is poor
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Had my doubts with the var decision
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How has Hughes not been booked for that?
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The goal
https://x.com/VARHub/status/1894477947102257171
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Well I don't think any of us thought we'd keep a clean sheet did we?
No one who has watched us away in the last year.
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Had my doubts with the var decision
Our player at the top just outside the box is playing him on.
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Palace up for it now
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Martinez not good enough for the goal.
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Great tracking back by Youri to cover the run by Mateta on the break.
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Got to be a world record of shitness for conceding from a first shot. Technically second here but still a bag of shit.
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How can you leave eze unmarked like that? Madness
Well defended bogarde
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Too.many risks.taken from the back into midfield, match after match.
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Well this is fecking shit
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Our defending is so bloody poor.
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The goal
https://x.com/VARHub/status/1894477947102257171
As soft as a kitten pissing on a pillow
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The goal
https://x.com/VARHub/status/1894477947102257171
Poor all round.
Palace are good front runners.
We need a he'll of an effort
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Poor keeping to concede from their first meaningful attack.
Hughes finally booked. Wharton and Muñoz are the other tag team foulers
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Perhaps I'm old but there is so much fucking about in defence these days
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Every week we concede
The first shot on target
Our defensive line up
Is really rather shit
Allez allez allez
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Commentator jizzing every time Palace get the ball in our last third
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Emi saves us
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This is crazy
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Shit corner.
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I can't wait to fuck this defence off next season.
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Hows that not 2-0
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Had my doubts with the var decision
Our player at the top just outside the box is playing him on.
Who is playing the four players who break too early onside when the ball is sent in?
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Can we rip up this rotten formation now
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Well, it isn't looking as 'sured up' as you'd want considering our line-up.
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This isn't going to end well
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67% possession, 1 shot, 0.05 xG.
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Unai not happy
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So lucky - contrast the pace and incisiveness of their breaks to ours.
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Is Lucy Ward on the Palace coaching staff? She's doing my head in.
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Hate this 3 at the back shit
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Ah, the throw-in for us in their half that immediately leads to a chance for them.
I'd missed that.
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Hows that not 2-0
Emi saved it
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How the fuck is that a foul?
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Have gone to pieces since the goal.
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Its just a question of time now, Palace are full of confidence
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Saar is rampant
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Hows that not 2-0
Emi saved it
The rebound
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How the fuck is that a foul?
I thought it was a foul - but against us!
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Well, it isn't looking as 'sured up' as you'd want considering our line-up.
Think it started ok but Palace seem to be able to cut through us at will now.
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Hate this 3 at the back shit
Why, it’s been fine apart from one aberration
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Saar is rampant
He'd be the best player in the world if he only played against us
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Fecking hate 5 at the back
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Do we have a defensive coach?
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Hows that not 2-0
Emi saved it
The rebound
Player skyed it
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We are lucky they’re not out of sight.
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Is Lucy Ward on the Palace coaching staff? She's doing my head in.
She is very knowledgeable and very good. I like her comments
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Martinez not good enough for the goal.
Piss poor but we defended both balls into the box terribly.
Palace should be 3 up.
I can't stand Konsa
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Jeez this is crap.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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ROGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Hate this 3 at the back shit
Why, it’s been fine apart from one aberration
They've had at least 2 other great chances.
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Hurrah!
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Boom
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Great goal morgs
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Yeeeessssss at freakin last
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And just like that…
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Yes!!!!
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Get in!
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Should be about 3-0. This is starting to look like a typical Palace - Villa.game.
Their breaks they always have men over, when we "break" our players are all still marked.
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Yessssss morgan !!!!
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Excellent. Needed that.
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Yeessss, get in!
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Do we have a defensive coach?
Probably injured.
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Brilliant Ollie - really brilliant.
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Well done Ollie, great play and good run by Rogers
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We fucking needed that.
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Offside?
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Thank fuck for that - we were looking a bit ragged then
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Looked level, to me.
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VAR check
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Roger’s Has done nothing really before that
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Booom fucking have it!
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Gettt innnn
Thank fuck for that.
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Thats the Villa we want!!!!
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I was saying...
That was a nice goal.
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Thank fuck. Now keep it tight til half time.
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If this is offside and theirs isn't I'm not going to be happy
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Superb from Watkins to win that back and then get himself on the move to take the pass.
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Thats level
If u disallow that i am going to be pissed off
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Goal offside ffs
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Disallowed.
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BUMHOLES
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Fuck.
Offside
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Ruled out..................
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Fuck me
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Disgrace.
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Oh FFS
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Oh fuck off, that's level.
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Fuck off there's no way that's offside.
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The 'goal'
https://x.com/GrettaNort60261/status/1894480618651517367
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Offside - of course.
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You've got to be shitting me
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2 in one half. Bottoms and arseholes
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That is shocking
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Balls
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The ball had left his foot in the frame they used.
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Bollocks
That is the biggest load of cunting shit ive seen
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That is bullshit
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Nonsense decision. Which part of the body have they looked at there?
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Fucking joke VAR. The camera angle wasn't even straight across the pitch. Wankers.
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This is why im starting to hate football
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No fucking way
they were looking for a way to disallow it
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That is fucking ridiculous.
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FFS awful decision
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So if that doesn't get these Villa players up for this now nothing will
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No fucking way, that is level so onside.
Disgrace.
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I really don’t think they’ve taken perspective into account at all there
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That is bollocks.
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That as offside as Zelensky is a dictator
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Absolute rubbish, look where the ball is on the still, it’s already left his foot.
How that can be ruled offside.
The game is fucked.
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So a stonewall penalty on Saturday and basically 1 cm offside there. VAR is an absolute pile of shit and is ruining the game.
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Those pricks don’t know how to draw a line. That was onside. The game’s ruined.
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Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal and that goal would be given. Fuck this.
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The ball had left his foot in the frame they used.
The shitty frame rate they use in the PL, they shouldn't override the onfield decision if it's that close.
This is going to be one of those 'orrible ones isn't it.
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Get over it Villa and play fucking better.
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Fuck football these days. VAR bollocks has totally ruined the game.
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Fucking fuck VAR… that is all
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That’s one of the worst VARs I’ve seen in ages. Well, since the non-penalty last weekend. Pathetic.
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The problem with VAR is that it's the same useless arses that Ref the games
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Clear booking, dirty twat.
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It’s just completely the wrong decision and it took them three minutes to get to it the fecking divs.
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The defender's arm kept him onside, that's bollocks.
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Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal and that goal would be given. Fuck this.
All day long
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There's no way they can be sure that's offside. They're just guessing
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That looks as level as palaces one.
So someone explain that to me?
Im fed of the incompetence and inconsistency in this fucking league
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkqM35SW8AALOZV?format=jpg&name=large)
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VAR has ruined the game for me.
Even when it rarely goes in our favour.
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Munoz, what a c*nt.
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When are we getting the fancy UEFA AI system that will replace these clowns
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Get over it Villa and play fucking better.
,,👍
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And send that dirty bar steward off too!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkqM-ryXcAAgPbk?format=jpg&name=large)
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Get some fucking strong tackles in. This lot are a bunch of ******
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God i wish theyd just fuck VAR off forever.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkqM35SW8AALOZV?format=jpg&name=large)
Where did the blind eejits draw the line?
Defender's knee or hand?
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I don’t think they’re cheating I think they’re thicks.
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What a total rubbish game
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Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal and that goal would be given. Fuck this.
They wouldn't have even looked at it. Incompetent wankers.
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No fucking way that is offside. I'm sick of VAR. Can't enjoy a single goal anymore without waiting for them to go back to the 90's to check if they can make an arbitrary interference with it.
Boo fucking boooo load of shit officials again.
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I don't think hand counts because you can't touch the ball legally with it. Not sure, though.
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I have long argued that - with the crazy minutiae now offered by tech - that the offside gap needs to be more obvious because it gives the striker no slack (the old guidance was that benefit should be given to the striker). Strikers have no margin for error any more.
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So a knee counts as part of a body but an arm doesn't?
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The VAR thing is annoying but let’s not let it distract from the fact that it’s another game where we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. It is ridiculous how inept we are and switch off defensively- I keep saying there is no point trying to play in a controlled way if you get such fundamentals wrong all the time.
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The officials have been shit, that's par for the course. But we have also wilted at a claustrophobic lower league ground, as we usually do. Change the fucking narrative Villa.
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The obvious change is Rashford on after their RB got booked but Ramsey has been our best player.
That formation is an abomination. If it was possible to look any worse at the back from the last few games we have somehow managed it. Id love to see Konsa hooked but Bogarde will be.
That goal aside Rogers has been very quiet. Tielemans is struggling too.
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I have long argued that - with the crazy minutiae now offered by tech - that the offside gap needs to be more obvious because it gives the striker no slack (the old guidance was that benefit should be given to the striker). Strikers have no margin for error any more.
But even with the rules as they are it was onside the blind feckers.
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Offside was introduced as a deterrent to stop goal hanging.
It should never have become incredibly fine margins and interpretation of when the ball was played.
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Anyway, get Rashy, Ashy, and Malen on at half-time, please. We don't need five defenders one down to Crystal Palace.
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Sarr is a massive prick as well. Anonymous most of the season and turns up only for games against us. Knobhead.
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I'd say his knee probably was just offside looking at those pictures. What can you do? The new semi-automatic system would have given it as off as well, most likely. The debate on the framerate of when the ball is kicked can continue.
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Was that a corner they scored from? Looked like a goal-kick to me.
Sorry if this has been discussed.
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Never offside. Another cynical bunch of cloggers and incompetent officialdom. But also, we’ve set up with 5 at the back. Fucking get at them second half and embarrass the massive ****** .
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Sarr is a massive prick as well. Anonymous most of the season and turns up only for games against us. Knobhead.
Another homophobic arsehole, too.
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I think think theirs was offside more
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Don’t know how they could rule that equaliser out. It was so tight and the Palace defender’s arm was out towards goal so was further back than Watkins. If they have to make coin toss decisions like that they should go with the on field decision. Fucking Jarred Cunting Gillett!
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I thought we were in control, then Dessie went on a run, left a gap which led to the corner and goal. No lines for their offside though. Ours was a scandalous decision.
Still, feels like a night out at Selhurst fucking Parl doesn't it?
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Was that a corner they scored from? Looked like a goal-kick to me.
Sorry if this has been discussed.
It was a goal kick.
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Anyway, get Rashy, Ashy, and Malen on at half-time, please. We don't need five defenders one down to Crystal Palace.
Yep. Just throw them on and outscore them.
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Was that a corner they scored from? Looked like a goal-kick to me.
Sorry if this has been discussed.
Swings and roundabouts, pretty sure one of our corners was a goal kick.
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Can someone knock Selhurst Park down as well. Shit hole drummers ground where we never do well.
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Sarr is a massive prick as well. Anonymous most of the season and turns up only for games against us. Knobhead.
It's also his birthday.
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Well I know hands and arms don't count when considering offside, but was the defender's foot really behind Watkins's kneecap?
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Why are we always shit at Selhurst Park?
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It’s been a good end to end open game of football. Those divs should be at home playing Minecraft not sat in a portacabin ruining the game.
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The VAR thing is annoying but let’s not let it distract from the fact that it’s another game where we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. It is ridiculous how inept we are and switch off defensively- I keep saying there is no point trying to play in a controlled way if you get such fundamentals wrong all the time.
This. However they measure it, they decided he was offside. Move on.
More importantly, the manager needs to correct some of his manifold selection errors and the players need to buck the fuck up.
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It's not a clear and obvious error is it? In cricket they have umpires call where it's borderline and they stay with original decision. Any player will play on the shoulder because that's what you've learnt all your life but basically if you're half a step out of synch with the defender it's offside. It's total fucking bollocks. Basically teams have to relearn how to score.
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Sarr is a massive prick as well. Anonymous most of the season and turns up only for games against us. Knobhead.
And also another homophobe
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It's as clear as day.....they want us nowhere near the top 5. Chelsea it's over to you to feck it up
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Fuck VAR.
We are playing well and the better team. Not over yet.
In training, beginning to think our defence practices 'playing the ball out' more than it does defending.
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Was that a corner they scored from? Looked like a goal-kick to me.
Sorry if this has been discussed.
That too. These refs are so shit.
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I'd say his knee probably was just offside looking at those pictures. What can you do? The new semi-automatic system would have given it as off as well, most likely. The debate on the framerate of when the ball is kicked can continue.
Thats never offside
If thats offside so is palaces
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Yet another game where we look in control before we turn the gun onto our own feet and blast them to smithereens.
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The VAR thing is annoying but let’s not let it distract from the fact that it’s another game where we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. It is ridiculous how inept we are and switch off defensively- I keep saying there is no point trying to play in a controlled way if you get such fundamentals wrong all the time.
This. However they measure it, they decided he was offside. Move on.
More importantly, the manager needs to correct some of his manifold selection errors and the players need to buck the fuck up.
Indeed. We would be much better served to use our best combination and just attack and back ourselves to score more. How many games is it in a row we’ve gone behind?!
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There’s about 8 refs for a game of football now and everyone of them is utter crap. There used to be one and two linesmen.
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It feels bonkers to me that a player can be offside because where he is in his stride pattern means his knee is high when the player he’s level with is in a different part of his own stride pattern and has a straight leg.
Bonkers. Anything to cancel out a goal….
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The VAR thing is annoying but let’s not let it distract from the fact that it’s another game where we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. It is ridiculous how inept we are and switch off defensively- I keep saying there is no point trying to play in a controlled way if you get such fundamentals wrong all the time.
If it wasn't for the "annoying" VAR, we'd be going into the break level, and on the front foot going into the second half.
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It was offside. Marginal but offside.
We need to be better.
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I’d get Rashford on for Rogers who the disallowed goal apart has done nothing positive but plenty of negative. Gives the ball away far too often and lands us right in trouble.
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
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Hope we score 4 now. These lot deserve absolutely nothing from this game!
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
Palace should be 3 up!
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It was offside. Marginal but offside.
We need to be better.
Well it wasn’t. It was a clear mistake.
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The VAR thing is annoying but let’s not let it distract from the fact that it’s another game where we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. It is ridiculous how inept we are and switch off defensively- I keep saying there is no point trying to play in a controlled way if you get such fundamentals wrong all the time.
If it wasn't for the "annoying" VAR, we'd be going into the break level, and on the front foot going into the second half.
Yeah but it’s offside - it’s not a wrong decision, it’s an annoying one.
We’re behind because we conceded a terrible goal and we nearly conceded two more.
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The VAR thing is annoying but let’s not let it distract from the fact that it’s another game where we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. It is ridiculous how inept we are and switch off defensively- I keep saying there is no point trying to play in a controlled way if you get such fundamentals wrong all the time.
If it wasn't for the "annoying" VAR, we'd be going into the break level, and on the front foot going into the second half.
But we do have "annoying" VAR so we aren't. No point moaning about it forever.
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Champions League is still there. Big half coming up. We need to reach out and grab it. Take what's ours Villa.
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3 clean sheets in 28 league games is utter shit, the 15/16 shambles managed 6 and we don't look capable of matching that.
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I'd say his knee probably was just offside looking at those pictures. What can you do? The new semi-automatic system would have given it as off as well, most likely. The debate on the framerate of when the ball is kicked can continue.
Thats never offside
If thats offside so is palaces
That's not how it works. Their goal our player at the top is clearly playing them on. Our one, I do think Watkin's knee is ahead of the shirt line of the Palace player, so he's off. I'm not sure why people are going so crazy about it, it's just a really tight offside. I can't wait for semi-automatic offsides to come in and you'll still see these happen because it just is what it is.
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Why do Villa have such atrocious records at places like Selhurst Park and Stoke. I see these fixtures and I just know in my gut it won't be pleasant.
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
We should be trailing by more
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Anyway, think we’ve got goals in us and we’ve been ok at the back so think we can nab this.
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
We don’t. Unai’s plan was working
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It's not a clear and obvious error is it? In cricket they have umpires call where it's borderline and they stay with original decision. Any player will play on the shoulder because that's what you've learnt all your life but basically if you're half a step out of synch with the defender it's offside. It's total fucking bollocks. Basically teams have to relearn how to score.
Clear and obvious errors isint used for offside decisions though.
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The VAR thing is annoying but let’s not let it distract from the fact that it’s another game where we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. It is ridiculous how inept we are and switch off defensively- I keep saying there is no point trying to play in a controlled way if you get such fundamentals wrong all the time.
This. However they measure it, they decided he was offside. Move on.
More importantly, the manager needs to correct some of his manifold selection errors and the players need to buck the fuck up.
Indeed. We would be much better served to use our best combination and just attack and back ourselves to score more. How many games is it in a row we’ve gone behind?!
Five?
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General play we are far superior but they have had two clear chances apart from the goal. They have two very speedy forwards that are causing is trouble, unlucky with the offside but shit happens and it probably was as i think was theirs but we didn't see any lines for that one. Martinez stop fking aornd at the edge of the box it just brings added pressure to a very fragile defence.
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
Palace should be 3 up!
2/10
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
We don’t. Unai’s plan was working
No it wasn’t we went behind and we could be three down. We then had a goal disallowed correctly, but annoyingly. The plan is only working if we intended to go behind.
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We absolutely deserve to be losing. We had one legal shot in that half.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkqM-ryXcAAgPbk?format=jpg&name=large)
The fact that the lines are drawn in Palace colours shows the clear bias at work.
*It was marginally offside.
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We have about two hundred million quid's worth of attacking talent on the bench. We can still win this.
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
We should be trailing by more
How? They has three opportunities, one they scored from which wasn’t a corner and if our goal was offside so was theirs. We controlled the game for must of that half. Oh and they are running a tightrope on a sending off
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It's not a clear and obvious error is it? In cricket they have umpires call where it's borderline and they stay with original decision. Any player will play on the shoulder because that's what you've learnt all your life but basically if you're half a step out of synch with the defender it's offside. It's total fucking bollocks. Basically teams have to relearn how to score.
Clear and obvious errors isint used for offside decisions though.
Ok thanks. It's still a pair of ****** in a cupboard near Burton on Trent ruining my evening though
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Same as every game this season we look good but we give them a soft goal. We then huff and puff and hope we have enough to get it back
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We absolutely deserve to be losing. We had one legal shot in that half.
Yep as soon as Palace upped they were much more threatening. Again we find ourselves battling to rescue a game.
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Use the lines for one, use the lines for all otherwise there is doubt and accusations of impropriety.
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Bailey on
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Bailey on for Garcia. Not sure if Bogarde or Konsa at right back.
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We don’t deserve to be trailing here.
We should be trailing by more
How? They has three opportunities, one they scored from which wasn’t a corner and if our goal was offside so was theirs. We controlled the game for must of that half. Oh and they are running a tightrope on a sending off
No it wasn’t the guy who headed theirs was not off.
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Oh great, all that firepower on the bench and it's Bailey coming on.
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If he plays like he has done lately, that could work.
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The last time, according to the commentator, we played three at the back was the 4-0 gubbing to Tottenham. Definitely worth a revisit tonight then, Unai. Who changes their shape for Crystal fucking Palace?!
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It was offside. Marginal but offside.
We need to be better.
Well it wasn’t. It was a clear mistake.
Watkins knee was clearly in front of any ball-playing part of a Palace player.
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Olsen on for Martinez ☹️
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Martinez injured?
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Oh FFS.
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AH ffs
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Ffs
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Superb olsen on
Of all thw attacking options you choose bailey??
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Olsen on. 3-0 Palace anyone?
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Olsen?
God help us
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It would be quite the turnaround if Olsen could keep a clean sheet here.
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I like the theory of our approach for the first half with the obvious intention being to bring on the Calvary at halftime/into the second half. But it ignores the reality of the fact that we cannot defend adequately for the last year or so and need to score 2 goals to have a chance of winning a game. So we may as well just go for it from the start.
Martinez was poor first the goal but made a great save not long after.
I really don’t think Watkins was offside and it was cr*p decision.
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Well that's the end of fucking that.
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Just come back in from putting the recycling out. What's happened to Emi?
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Olsen on for Martinez ☹️
OMG!
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Why do Palace hate Olsen? Has he played for them?
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It was offside. Marginal but offside.
We need to be better.
Well it wasn’t. It was a clear mistake.
Watkins knee was clearly in front of any ball-playing part of a Palace player.
Unfortunately this is right
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Just come back in from putting the recycling out. What's happened to Emi?
Nobody knows.
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Olsen coming on. I guess we can turn off now and do something else.
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I’m going to bed. Night.
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Altogether now Why does it always rain on me?
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I thought Rogers was well below par until the 'goal'
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Bailey on
It's the change I would have made too.
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We're fucked
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Bailey on - who's at right back?
OMG Olsen coming on.
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We can fuckin forget this.
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Bailey on - who's at right back?
OMG Olsen coming on.
Bogarde?
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Bailey? Are we deliberately chucking this game away?
With all the available talent on the bench, we send on Bailey. Jesus wept
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Got to out score them now!
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Brighton above us as it stands
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Why do Palace hate Olsen? Has he played for them?
He apparently wouldn’t allow some entertainment while he was warming up.
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Just come back in from putting the recycling out. What's happened to Emi?
I'd go back out if I were you. No idea about Emi.
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Olsen played last season at Palace, they scored five and Eze scored for fun with shots from outside the box as I remember it. Come on Olsen prove us wrong!
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So we had this shit one and the one against malen in the last two thats gone against us
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Why do Palace hate Olsen? Has he played for them?
He wanted to train at half time to warm up and wouldn't let them do half time entertainment.
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Hang on , is that Robin Olsen
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Seems like we're staying with 3-5-2 and in that much Bailey for Garcia is a like for like
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Konsa soft as shit again
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Olsen played last season at Palace, they scored five and Eze scored for fun with shots from outside the box as I remember it. Come on Olsen prove us wrong!
The asterisk game...
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It was offside. Marginal but offside.
We need to be better.
Well it wasn’t. It was a clear mistake.
Watkins knee was clearly in front of any ball-playing part of a Palace player.
Unfortunately this is right
I can’t attach the pic. But not to my eyes the palace leg was in front of Watkins knee. Albeit quite blurry.
Anyway no big argument as think we’ll come back.
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Seems like we're staying with 3-5-2 and in that much Bailey for Garcia is a like for like
It's bonkers, Digne is completely lost on other side too
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Bailey wing back?
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Fuck Selhurst Park, fuck Palace and retrospectively fuck Wimbledon too. Fucking hate games down there.
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Why do Palace hate Olsen? Has he played for them?
He wanted to train at half time to warm up and wouldn't let them do half time entertainment.
Ta. Sounds like they're twats then, you're entitled to warm up FFS.
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Fuck Selhurst Park, fuck Palace and retrospectively fuck Wimbledon too. Fucking hate games down there.
And Charlton.
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Fucking idiotic well done John.
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All the results going against us tonight. Olsen, FFS, can things get any worse this season.
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Fuck this formation, tbh.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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GET IN
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Waiting for it to be disallowed.
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What a goal.
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Not sure what Bailey gives us that Garcia doesn't. Garcia has a much better cross for a start.
Edit. Great goal
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Olsen to Ollie to Morgz to the back of the net
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Get in! Route one!
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Hindsight is wonderful thing. We are playing well with it, somehow. Go on Rogers!!
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Yep
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Get In - call that one offside
Well done Morgan - great work
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Yesssss whata fucking goal
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Yessss, Rogers again.
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Var that fuckers
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Disallow that one you ******! Ave it!
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Rule that out you ******!!
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Yessssss
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We probably wouldn't have scored that goal if Martinez was on, we'd have passed it out.
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Another assist for Ollie
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Offside?
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Brilliant from Rogers, excellent to make space for himself to finish.
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Get ball Olsen and head Ollie. Now foot on the gas.
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That’s better
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stop the fucking about at the back and we score
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Brilliant Watkins and Rogers
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The legit goal
https://x.com/GrettaNort60261/status/1894488461014450308
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Glad you’re off there Ollie.
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Route one. Love it
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Must be, offside, handball, or fuck the villa
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Dreadful effort by ollie lucky for him offside
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MORGANNNN!!!!!
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Fuck Selhurst Park, fuck Palace and retrospectively fuck Wimbledon too. Fucking hate games down there.
And Charlton.
Charlton 3-0 at the Easter we got relegated in 1987. There was about fifty of us in the away end.
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GTFIN
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Ollie’s link up play been great today
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Well done, Olsen.
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Palace have Alex Kapranos in goal
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Well that was nice.
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Yes , the spirit of Big Jack lives on !
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That's a daft phrase. "Sarr's goal has been cancelled out". Well, no it hasn't, or we'd be winning one-nil.
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Fuck Selhurst Park, fuck Palace and retrospectively fuck Wimbledon too. Fucking hate games down there.
this
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Looked offside to me.
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The palace fans think Martinez is still in goal
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Ollie’s link up play been great today
Not sure if you mean Ollie Watkins or Robin "Ollie" Olsen. Works either way.
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stop the fucking about at the back and we score
Indeed. Less faffing, more launching.
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Palace have Alex Kapranos in goal
We need to take him out
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Route One, but really well taken.
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That's a daft phrase. "Sarr's goal has been cancelled out". Well, no it hasn't, or we'd be winning one-nil.
Excellent pedantry.
Penalty - I’ve seen them given. Yeah but is it a foul in the penalty area. Not what have seen 9 games ago
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Our set pieces, bloody hell.
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Our set pieces, bloody hell.
That's why we're top of the set piece goal table.
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McGinn FFS.
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Route One, but really well taken.
Get in the fucking mixer!
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I bloody hate the match thread. Ollie is shit, SJM is shit. We're all shit. Blah blah blah blah blah.
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We actually scored with our first shot on target.
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mcginn getting usinto trouble there
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Stop piddling around at the back
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2-1 Palace
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Jeez, that's really pissed me off.
I've completely lost faith in PGMOL, Gillett and associated chumps.
HOW DARE THEY NOT FIND A WEAK OR FLIMSY REASON TO NOT RULE OUT MORGAN ROGERS' (2ND) EQUALISER.
THE GAME'S GONE.
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I bloody hate the match thread. Ollie is shit, SJM is shit. We're all shit. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Go for a shit?
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Bollocks.
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That’s a shame, I fancied Hughes to get sent off
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We need the attackers on now! All of them.
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Scary
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Jane is great.
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This club just cant fucking defend
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I bloody hate the match thread. Ollie is shit, SJM is shit. We're all shit. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Go for a shit?
Very good timing too!
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villa fucking around in midfield to much
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Dreadful again - played right into their press. How fucking stupid do you have to be?
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So sloppy again- what the fuck are we doing keep losing the ball.
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Unbelievably fucking wank.
I love McGinn but why the fuck does he keep thinking he can run through every player on the pitch ?
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Playing out badly from the back..again..how many times
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I bloody hate the match thread. Ollie is shit, SJM is shit. We're all shit. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Ahh, it's just like being in the Trinity when it still.had wooden seats.
And Palace have taken the lead again. We *are* shit.
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Good pointing from Konsa there
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Ramsey always looked like he was losing that
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OH FFS!!
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We just gift teams goals all of the time - all of the time.
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To be fair he took that well
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Lucy Ward. Just fuck off and sit with the Palace fans.
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Hard to even watch us mucking around with it at the back. Self inflicted. We’re the better side here. Just play the game!
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Why the fuck can we just not handle Crystal fucking Palace? It's like groundhog day every time we play them.
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Their second
https://x.com/topbullsking/status/1894490713678622877
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What the fuck has happened to us this season?
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To be fair he took that well
He did but how easy was that. Just such a shocking defensive display yet again
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Really no idea what your issue with Lucy Ward is.
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So today we're going to have to score three to get the three points we need. Not happening.
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We can't play out from the back. And we should stop fucking trying. Utter fucking shite.
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So sloppy again- what the fuck are we doing keep losing the ball.
McGinn did it literally a couple of minutes before and we conceded a corner. Ramsey then does almost the same thing and they score.
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Looks like Unai is going to wait until Palace are out of sight before bringing on the Ms. Really poor defending again and again but made worse by stupid midfield decisions.
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Losing every 50/50 now.
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Is the manager going to do anything?
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Well we look ok at the top end but that combination playing out for their 2nd was another gift
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Really no idea what your issue with Lucy Ward is.
It’s very strange isn’t it ?
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We play it long once and score.
Then ..........
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We piss around with the ball too much, we don’t have the players that can piss around at the back, we need to be more direct. How many goals have come from our pissing mistakes at the back?
We’re the architects of our own failures this season.
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Is Bailey doing anything?
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A root and branch overall of the defence is needed in the summer. Do they do any defensive coaching at BH?
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Really no idea what your issue with Lucy Ward is.
It’s very strange isn’t it ?
She was even defending our defensive stats, mentioning our injuries interrupting our ability. Really strange.
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How the f*ck is that not a penalty?!
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The lack of subs is getting pretty baffling, now.
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Our third goal is going to feel like a trophy win.
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Thats not a pen for me. Just dopey play from ramsey
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Hard to even watch us mucking around with it at the back. Self inflicted. We’re the better side here. Just play the game!
How? We're not creating anything.
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A root and branch overall of the defence is needed in the summer. Do they do any defensive coaching at BH?
Better PPE needed.
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How the f*ck is that not a penalty?!
i though that was to be fair
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Is the manager going to do anything?
Well he hasn't bothered to sort out the defence for over 12 months now.
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How the f*ck is that not a penalty?!
Never
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Thats not a pen for me. Just dopey play from ramsey
Bollocks - Ramsey got caught
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Ref was bricking it if var gave a pen
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The lack of subs is getting pretty baffling, now.
The bailey sub for me strange. Done nothing so far
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Another penalty shout that barely raises an eyebrow with the ref and VAR, it's happened to us far too many times this season.
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For their goal, I appreciate this will annoy Jane, but what the actual fuck was Konsa doing? It really is shit defending. Just not tight enough. Lovely finish from Mateta but come on, utter garbage defending.
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Of course it is a pen, he stops the player from kicking the ball, no contact with the ball, it does not have to be deliberate to be a pen.
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Breatthhhhhh Rashford is coming on ffs what does it take
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Thats not a pen for me. Just dopey play from ramsey
Bollocks - Ramsey got caught
Na ramsey kicked the ground thats not a pen for me
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I would have been amazed if it had been given.
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We piss around with the ball too much, we don’t have the players that can piss around at the back, we need to be more direct. How many goals have come from our pissing mistakes at the back?
We’re the architects of our own failures this season.
We concede too many and we also struggle to create chances to be honest. The worst of both worlds this season.
The dynamic duo coming on now.
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The most depressing game in the modern era.
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Can we sub Bailey off already
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Good play leon
That's better
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Thats not a pen for me. Just dopey play from ramsey
Bollocks - Ramsey got caught
Na ramsey kicked the ground thats not a pen for me
Because munoz clipped him and put him off his stride
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We're far too nice. I love that about Emery, but every good team needs a proper narky bastard or two.
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Having VAR is just a complete waste of time
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Nice by Bailey. Konsa hits the bar and now come the cavalry.
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Can we sub Bailey off already
Oh yes please, lets.
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Our third goal is going to feel like a trophy win.
Hopefully Rashy will score it.
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Having VAR is just a complete waste of time
Not for our opponents, it's great for them.
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Let's see if Asensio can do it on a cold Tuesday in a shithole supermarket car park in South London.
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Watkins and Ramsey were playing well
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They've had 14 shots to our 3, in no way have we been the better side.
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Bailey doing well at both ends.
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Having VAR is just a complete waste of time
Something we can agree on
Not for our opponents, it's great for them.
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Having VAR is just a complete waste of time
Not for our opponents, it's great for them.
True
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Thats not a pen for me. Just dopey play from ramsey
Bollocks - Ramsey got caught
Na ramsey kicked the ground thats not a pen for me
Because munoz clipped him and put him off his stride
Exactly he catches his foot it’s a penalty
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Rashford on the left or up top?
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Let's see if Asensio can do it on a cold Tuesday in a shithole supermarket car park in South London.
He's probably thinking, in the village I grew up in the father said be a good boy or you'll end up in hell, and guess what your at Selhoist Park
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3-1 Sarr
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Watkins and Ramsey were playing well
Ramsey had a bit of the ball but didn’t use it well imo
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Fuck off
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3-1 Sarr
Well that’s just peachy. Fuck it.
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For their goal, I appreciate this will annoy Jane, but what the actual fuck was Konsa doing? It really is shit defending. Just not tight enough. Lovely finish from Mateta but come on, utter garbage defending.
Disasi more at fault, was beaten twice. Cracking finish but was given far too much space.
And again....
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Thats not a pen for me. Just dopey play from ramsey
Bollocks - Ramsey got caught
Na ramsey kicked the ground thats not a pen for me
Because munoz clipped him and put him off his stride
Exactly he catches his foot it’s a penalty
It’s definitely a penalty. We’ve seen them given on a number of occasions but yet again we have to put up with incompetent and inconsistent officials
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Bollocks, Bollocks, Bollocks!!!
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Thats not a pen for me. Just dopey play from ramsey
Bollocks - Ramsey got caught
Na ramsey kicked the ground thats not a pen for me
Because munoz clipped him and put him off his stride
Exactly he catches his foot it’s a penalty
Thats how I see it but tbf none of the players seemed interested.
FFS - think we've fucked this
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Champions league we are having a laugh.
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Thats curtains top 5
This team just cant defend just pure and utter fucking shit
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They've had 14 shots to our 3, in no way have we been the better side.
They look like creating a chance with every attack. Which can also be said about most teams we've played this season.
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What a totally shit game.
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So easy
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We haven’t been able to touch the ball for 5 minutes.
We have made crystal fucking palace look like peak Barcelona
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They've had 14 shots to our 3, in no way have we been the better side.
No we haven’t- it’s nonsense. No side that concedes stupid fucking goals like us is the better side often enough. It’s another crap away performance.
And there’s another goal gifted. Any defenders want to do anything?
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For their goal, I appreciate this will annoy Jane, but what the actual fuck was Konsa doing? It really is shit defending. Just not tight enough. Lovely finish from Mateta but come on, utter garbage defending.
Disasi more at fault, was beaten twice. Cracking finish but was given far too much space.
And again....
Both crap but Konsa simply stands there.
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Game over
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Can't beat the ref, var, palace and injuries. Get ready for conference league next season
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Champions league we are having a laugh.
I think that's it now, we have to look for the Europa job
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
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Oh just FFS.
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Konsa is the problem
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Garbage. From start to finish, they have simply overpowered us as usual.
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Absolute garbage
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We really are making sure we are just another aspiring mid table side. Pathetic defending for all 3 goals.
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Game set and match
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Shocking display. We're constantly wide open. How can it be so easy to get at our back line?
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And they get a close VAR decision go their way...
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I’ve had enough, I’m going to work.
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1 win in 9 away games, 3 clean shhets in 28. No chance that's gonna get you top 5.
And could have been 4-1
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Fucking shambles
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And of course VAR goes in their favour.
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Fml this three at the back is so wobbly
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Do you do negative marks?
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No lines?
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Too many players have been poor but this is also on Emery I'm afraid.
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Fucking hell we’re playing like a non-league side now.
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Digshit why are we making these cloggers look like Brazil 1970?
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Changing the formation to a system we never play added to the fact that we are having to change defenders is just dim. All over the place at the back.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
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Emery needs to stop being so pig-headed and ignorant and sort this defence out. It's getting to tbe point where we're almost revelling in it
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been poor all over tonight
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The formation has been crazy at the back tonight
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Emery has to sort the defence out or it's time to go. It's not acceptable.
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Terrible defending for that goal
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Just so annoying.
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Garbage. Utter garbage.
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Konsa is the problem
Yup. Too much time complaining instead of focusing.
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As usual, when we are bad, we are monumentally awful
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Too many players have been poor but this is also on Emery I'm afraid.
Yep poor set up and poor timing on subs.
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Looked at the goal but not the pass out wide, no lines. Come on.
Not to excuse us mind.
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Our defence is mediocre and a bottom half side.
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We’ve schooled by palace 3 times this season. No way we’re qualifying for the champions league. It’s always one step forward to back in the league this season. Officials not helping (as usual) but it’s just not been good enough.
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Tell you what, Cardiff will be a real task, not sure i'm going to bother, you can only take so much trashy football.
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We huff and puff to try and even move the ball into their half. They play two passes and are in on goal.
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VAR is just a pile of shit. How long did they look at Rogers first before ruling it off yet another tight decision is settled in less than a minute.
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Konsa has been a serious liability this season and it's hard to comprehend how one can regress so much. It's a shame, and I really try not to slag off the players.. but man, he has become a huge disappointment. The palms up, the finger pointing, the general look of confusion after goals.
I know the schedule congestion is brutal but I can't make any more excuses for him.
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How long's left? Shall I bother putting it on?
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Nice if us to gift a shit Chelsea and Man City Champs Lg 👍
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We can moan about the disallowed goal all we like but we've still let 3 others in. One step forward two back every week.
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Making the pride of Croydon look like a decent side. Again.
They must love playing us.
I know it's a shite place to go at the best of times.
But a bit of backbone and resolve every now and then wouldn't go amiss.
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Did they even check the pass to Wharton on the right. Didn't see it.
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How long's left? Shall I bother putting it on?
I've just turned it off if that's any kind of guide.
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How long's left? Shall I bother putting it on?
Dont bother mate seriously
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bailey at HT was odd and not the duo and whats Malen done wrong
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As usual, when we are bad, we are monumentally awful
Every 2/3 games at present. Have been since mid September. Appalling.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
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Bottom of the top half.
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All over the place at the back since they scored. Haven't got much else in the way of options, but McGinn and Tielemans can't offer defensive protection when we are under pressure.
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Our defending has been embarrassing poor for too long. It needs to be sorted out both in terms of tactics, set-up and personnel.
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Hahaha. Thanks team. I'll leave it.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
10000000000%
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I just don't get VAR. There was a really tight offside call for their 3rd goal which got a millisecond of attention off them.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
I thought Bogarde would be in midfield.
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Sadly - we've got worse as the games gone on.
No idea why our away form is so bad - defense and midfield has just been non-existent.
Unai calledi it wrong
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Did they even check the pass to Wharton on the right. Didn't see it.
They did, TNT were just slow to show it and they had just finished checking when they finally got round to showing what VAR was looking at.
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Play four at the back. Stick Bogarde in front of that four to cover with McGinn and Tielemans either side, with the flying column up front. Not that hard.
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It's corruption.
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Just to apologise to everyone. We *are* shit. 😭
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So we are resting our promising attack from last game for Cardiff then.
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All over the place at the back since they scored. Haven't got much else in the way of options, but McGinn and Tielemans can't offer defensive protection when we are under pressure.
They have blown up tonight, completely fatigued. Emery has sold them out with this formation though.
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It’s been an exhibit in how to get it completely wrong.
You can just see the pride Palace take in defending. We don’t have a clue what we’re doing
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No Kamara, Torres or Mings. That's the issue.
No Barkley or Onana just compounds the fact the that the spine of our team is hugely weakened. Martinez off as well just doesn't help.
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It's corruption.
What is?
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
We don't have a CDM available though. I think he was trying to find a solution to that problem and threw off our balance a bit. Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Friday.
This fixture build up is absolute bull.
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I actually feel sorry for Olsen. We always play like this when he has to come in.
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Our defence is a major worry now.
We can’t grind wins out because we always concede and the goals we do give away are mainly embarrassing.
I’m afraid the FA cup is our only route into European football next season.
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Just to apologise to everyone. We *are* shit. 😭
You got there in the end Jane 😅
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It's corruption.
What is?
Our defense!
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We go behind with those playing too.
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Forget the league now. Just channel everything into the cups.
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I actually feel sorry for Olsen. We always play like this when he has to come in.
He is part of it.
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Bailey is mostly rubbish
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
We don't have a CDM available though. I think he was trying to find a solution to that problem and threw off our balance a bit. Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Friday.
This fixture build up is absolute bull.
We could have just played Bogarde there. I think from what he's shown that it's probably his best position.
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No Kamara, Torres or Mings. That's the issue.
No Barkley or Onana just compounds the fact the that the spine of our team is hugely weakened. Martinez off as well just doesn't help.
The defence has been shit in the league all season regardless of who was in defence and goal.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
10000000000%
It's the fact that they are having a shit season at home and we go and play a formation that they are good at, we are no experts at it, hardly surprising we are getting beaten. We have played into their hands and yet again shown the benevolent side of the club by allowing them the three points when they have been crap at home. Not enough clean sheets, not enough away wins, yet again we concede two or more in a game. I am losing faith, despite the injuries.
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Bailey has been sharp when in their half.
Why Rogers up front? Malen on bench
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Bailey. Brain the size of a dried pea
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TBF - I think this is on Unai. Whatever we tried to do today hasnt worked.
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I think Konsa is a massive weakness in defence. He’s the one I’d upgrade first .. all he does is point !
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Get Konsa off
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No Kamara, Torres or Mings. That's the issue.
No Barkley or Onana just compounds the fact the that the spine of our team is hugely weakened. Martinez off as well just doesn't help.
The defence has been shit in the league all season regardless of who was in defence and goal.
Yup it’s not really about personnel in the main. It is they just don’t do anything right structurally.
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No Kamara, Torres or Mings. That's the issue.
No Barkley or Onana just compounds the fact the that the spine of our team is hugely weakened. Martinez off as well just doesn't help.
The defence has been shit in the league all season regardless of who was in defence and goal.
Conceding 2 a game confirms this.
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No Kamara, Torres or Mings. That's the issue.
No Barkley or Onana just compounds the fact the that the spine of our team is hugely weakened. Martinez off as well just doesn't help.
The defence has been shit in the league all season regardless of who was in defence and goal.
With players missing.
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why bailey not malen , the poor bloke he even getting chump league games to play
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There's no point playing out from the back when you're 3-1 down. They will be happy just to let you tick the seconds down in your own half
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No Kamara, Torres or Mings. That's the issue.
No Barkley or Onana just compounds the fact the that the spine of our team is hugely weakened. Martinez off as well just doesn't help.
The defence has been shit in the league all season regardless of who was in defence and goal.
Conceding 2 a game confirms this.
We just need Konsa back at RB or something
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Bailey is mostly rubbish
In an unorthodox position I was expecting worse. He’s tracked back well and offered something going forward.
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Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that Palace had a woeful home record this season. They've won 2. Today they could have scored enough to win 6.
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Forget the league now. Just channel everything into the cups.
If you can put a performance in like this in such a crucial game to win, I wouldn't be surprised if this time next week we are out of both cups.
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I actually feel sorry for Olsen. We always play like this when he has to come in.
He is part of it.
He hasn't done a lot wrong tonight. And certainly hasn't caused us to play like we are.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
We don't have a CDM available though. I think he was trying to find a solution to that problem and threw off our balance a bit. Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Friday.
This fixture build up is absolute bull.
We could have just played Bogarde there. I think from what he's shown that it's probably his best position.
Bogarde has been horribly out of his depth tonight. But what was possibly going through Emery's head that he landed on playing him right of a 3!
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No Kamara, Torres or Mings. That's the issue.
No Barkley or Onana just compounds the fact the that the spine of our team is hugely weakened. Martinez off as well just doesn't help.
The defence has been shit in the league all season regardless of who was in defence and goal.
Conceding 2 a game confirms this.
We just need Konsa back at RB or something
And Carlos in the centre.
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Sometimes Konsa is great. But if everything isn’t ok he won’t be the one to take ownership. He’ll point and blame others.
But I’d say tonight is on the coaching staff. The formation is all over the shop.
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Forget the league now. Just channel everything into the cups.
If you can put a performance in like this in such a crucial game to win, I wouldn't be surprised if this time next week we are out of both cups.
The CL tie is over two legs so that would be difficult.
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Only the bottom 5 have conceded more, it's not just down to the personel.
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Olsen could have caught and iced that ball before he came down.
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Bailey is mostly rubbish
In an unorthodox position I was expecting worse. He’s tracked back well and offered something going forward.
Our snail-paced football this season means he's usually marked by multiple players when he gets it.
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This is a shit show on so many fronts:
Selection
Formation
Individually
Collectively
Officiating
VAR
Little to be positive about.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
We don't have a CDM available though. I think he was trying to find a solution to that problem and threw off our balance a bit. Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Friday.
This fixture build up is absolute bull.
We could have just played Bogarde there. I think from what he's shown that it's probably his best position.
Bogarde has been horribly out of his depth tonight. But what was possibly going through Emery's head that he landed on playing him right of a 3!
Bogarde is the one I'd criticise the least
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TBF - I think this is on Unai. Whatever we tried to do today hasnt worked.
I picture him with a bingo bag of numbers making the team selection.
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Forget the league now. Just channel everything into the cups.
If you can put a performance in like this in such a crucial game to win, I wouldn't be surprised if this time next week we are out of both cups.
Technically, we wouldn't be out until the following week but I take your point.
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Can we stop with the 3 at the back - if conceeded 4 against spurs and 3 against palace and scored 1 - its probably not the way to go.
Really fucked off with this - sums are season up - 1 step forward 2 back. Same all season. Too difficult for us to score, to easy for us conceed
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Forget the league now. Just channel everything into the cups.
If you can put a performance in like this in such a crucial game to win, I wouldn't be surprised if this time next week we are out of both cups.
The CL tie is over two legs so that would be difficult.
Well I guess if we defend like this in Bruges it may be possible!
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If we’d played an intelligent match we’d have won this. So frustrating.
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This second half has been an absolute disaster, Rogers goal aside. Teams on a poor run just love playing us, every season.
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
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glad to see the back of sarr, he's been a pest all game
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When it’s not working why not change the formation? There were the players on the pitch to do that.
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glad to see the back of sarr, he's been a pest all game
He’ll do nothing again until he plays us next.
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This will be their 3rd league home win of the season.
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It is pretty wild how close positions 3 through 10 are in the league table.
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Our goal difference says it all really!
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As utter dog shit as we have been, VAR has totally ruined any standard of officiating that we once had. It’s down the toilet.
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Mid-table as it stands, just about sums it up.
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Only positive was I had a bet on Mateta to score and palace to win 11/4.
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Selling Duran and replacing him with two players who've barely played all season and aren't even match fit looks really clever now doesn't it.......
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This will be their 3rd home win of the season.
And probably their easiest.
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4-1 Nketiah
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Only positive was I had a bet on Mateta to score and palace to win 11/4.
Go you
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Deeply shocked
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
You were saying?
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We can probably stop fretting about goal difference, now.
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
Oh well done...
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
Mission accomplished
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
You were saying?
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Wank is the only word
Or
Embarrassing
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
Insight!
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
You called it
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
😂
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4-1 Nketiah
When we lose away from home we do it badly
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Only positive was I had a bet on Mateta to score and palace to win 11/4.
Go you
Thanks.
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Our goal difference says it all really!
I can still imagine us missing out on European competition because of it.
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
Do you know Fridays lotto numbers?
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This clubs a disgrace at times
Yes decisions go against you but to implode again like this is utterly pathetic and not acceptable
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Who is Konsa blaming now?
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Juts told my palace dad in law he will score dont worry
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Just as a question, but how did Newcastle do last season? They were mid-table(ish) if I recall?
The pressure of the additional games has brought injuries and fatigue.
I don’t think it addresses the fact that we’re as frail as a pair of paper pants that they use for surgery - even full strength, we still messed up a lot of defensive things.
It needs changing next season though. Simply not good enough this season.
And as I write this, I see a 4th has gone in.
Pathetic.
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
You were saying?
Story checks out. Villa gonna be Villa.
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I know one was an occassion, but 9 conceded in 2 visits to Palace is pretty shit.
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Emery having a nightmare tonight. What is our setup at the back...Bailey kind of RWB but not really. Three centre backs marking nobody and Digne lost, utterly lost on left.
Totally agree. Tactics all wrong by Emery.
As soon as I saw we were playing 3/5 at the back I knew the game was lost. It's a desperate measure to try and improve a defence by adding players rather than correcting mistakes
We don't have a CDM available though. I think he was trying to find a solution to that problem and threw off our balance a bit. Hopefully this is a wake-up call for Friday.
This fixture build up is absolute bull.
We could have just played Bogarde there. I think from what he's shown that it's probably his best position.
Bogarde has been horribly out of his depth tonight. But what was possibly going through Emery's head that he landed on playing him right of a 3!
Bogarde is the one I'd criticise the least
Emery has such a phobia of playing a right-footed CB at LCB, he'll play a right-footed midfielder there instead.
And Nketiah scores. Of course he does.
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Deary me..why do we not turn up against dross..Palace, Wolves, Ipswich....Jesus wept
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When Emery fucks up, he really fucks up.
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
You were saying?
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fuck off konsa always moaning about everyone else and you have been shite
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Bloody annoying when top five has been there for the taking.
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Selling Duran and replacing him with two players who've barely played all season and aren't even match fit looks really clever now doesn't it.......
Yeah that explains it.
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Who is Konsa blaming now?
Olsen?
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This clubs a disgrace at times
Yes decisions go against you but to implode again like this is utterly pathetic and not acceptable
Taking off Watkins and Ramsey completely fucked us tonight. Where's Asensio even supposed to be playing? Rogers up top?? Bailey right wing???
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Fucking embarrassment of a second half. Absolute capitulation again.
Hung over last season weren’t we?
Fuck off.
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They have disgraced themselves in the second half. They weren’t very good in the first but they’ve been an utter embarrassment.
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Embarrassing on so many levels.
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This clubs a disgrace at times
Yes decisions go against you but to implode again like this is utterly pathetic and not acceptable
Behave we've lost a game having to play lots of games close together with injuries.
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Who is Konsa blaming now?
Olsen? I don't know why Konsa stopped running tbh.
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Lost for words.
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Well, let's focus on the FA Cup then...
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So we were supposed to address the goals conceded. Good start. On Emery, wrong selectionion and tactics.
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Well, let's focus on the FA Cup then...
Can’t wait for Friday.
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Bailey at RB at fault
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Their keeper had to make a save!!
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February 15th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 28th. How a team is supposed to recover, stay competitive and avoid injury at this point in the season is beyond me.
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
Do you know Fridays lotto numbers?
Mystic Meg (is she still a thing?) says that we’ll concede from Cardiff’s first real attempt at goal on Friday. It’ll be from a player in need of a pick me up or on a goal drought. Konsa will point at something at the same time this happens. We’ll need at least 2 goals to win and if Bailey is playing, he’ll do the square root of f*ck all.
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This clubs a disgrace at times
Yes decisions go against you but to implode again like this is utterly pathetic and not acceptable
Behave we've lost a game having to play lots of games close together with injuries.
Im sorry but how is that performance acceptable in your eyes? Im not having the injuries excuse
That was just a poor performance all round. Add that to the last wolves game. We scored 1 goal and conceded 6 tell me how this is acceptable please?
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Bailey coming on HT was the bit that tipped the balance firmly away from us.
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And that was the end of that.
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We’ve ran out of steam. We look tired and lacking intensity.
I think we’ve been hanging on for a while now with the odd result to keep us going. Injuries and a heavy European commitment are taking its toll. Let’s hope we get some back quickly otherwise we could struggle badly.
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
Do you know Fridays lotto numbers?
Mystic Meg (is she still a thing?) says that we’ll concede from Cardiff’s first real attempt at goal on Friday. It’ll be from a player in need of a pick me up or on a goal drought. Konsa will point at something at the same time this happens. We’ll need at least 2 goals to win and if Bailey is playing, he’ll do the square root of f*ck all.
lol
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February 15th, 19th, 22nd, 25th, 28th. How a team is supposed to recover, stay competitive and avoid injury at this point in the season is beyond me.
And how is a team supposed to work on a new formation.
Fuck it. Let’s do it anyway.
This result is mostly on Emery.
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Who is Konsa blaming now?
Olsen? I don't know why Konsa stopped running tbh.
TBH, any ball across was a goal off a striker or a defender. Fuck up from four players there. Asensio was the one who played it to Mateta(?) initially and they burst forward with every Villa player a yard slower to react.
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Tonight was on Emery - game plan fucked us. one of his worst games as manager for us.
No luck - but thats how this season gos but our combo of not scoring and letting in loads has fucked our chance of doing something special this year.
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Bailey coming on HT was the bit that tipped the balance firmly away from us.
Was Garcia injured?
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Just need that Nkietah to score his first goal for palace to complete the usual Villa gift package
Do you know Fridays lotto numbers?
Mystic Meg (is she still a thing?) says that we’ll concede from Cardiff’s first real attempt at goal on Friday. It’ll be from a player in need of a pick me up or on a goal drought. Konsa will point at something at the same time this happens. We’ll need at least 2 goals to win and if Bailey is playing, he’ll do the square root of f*ck all.
She was always a thing, somebody actually bedded that lady.
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Bailey coming on HT was the bit that tipped the balance firmly away from us.
To be fair every sub has made us worse unfortunately
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Uni really got this wrong tonight. Thought we were very unlucky to be down at half time. Got a deserved equaliser. However Olsen coming on, the Bailey sub seemed to really unsettle us. Why wasn't Malen put on? All weird. Yet once again our defending has been so so poor it's almost criminal.
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Still think VAR is bollocks but this defensive collapse is bigger bollocks. Is it missing Kamara to protect them? But that means they're not good enough. We definitely seem calmer when Mings is fit enough to play but that's not that often these days.
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We’ve ran out of steam. We look tired and lacking intensity.
I think we’ve been hanging on for a while now with the odd result to keep us going. Injuries and a heavy European commitment are taking its toll. Let’s hope we get some back quickly otherwise we could struggle badly.
COULD struggle?
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I'm only chuffed we can't get relegated.
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Bailey at RB at fault
I couldn't work that substitution out: what was the point of it?
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I'm only chuffed we can't get relegated.
Are you ABSOLUTELY certain?
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Selling Duran and replacing him with two players who've barely played all season and aren't even match fit looks really clever now doesn't it.......
You mean the new lad who scored two on Saturday and the other new lad who set both up…gotcha
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I'm only chuffed we can't get relegated.
Are you ABSOLUTELY certain?
Never certain about anything these days.
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Consistently inconsistent.
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We mostly concede alit of goals when olsens in goal
Why do we persist with him as oue number 2?
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Juggling the team round to play five games in two weeks does not help us. This is our fourth game in that sequence, Palace have had three games - including a lovely week's break - in the same period.
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A disgrace.
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Bailey coming on HT was the bit that tipped the balance firmly away from us.
Was Garcia injured?
Probably put in a transfer request. Can't say I blame him.
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We’ve ran out of steam. We look tired and lacking intensity.
I think we’ve been hanging on for a while now with the odd result to keep us going. Injuries and a heavy European commitment are taking its toll. Let’s hope we get some back quickly otherwise we could struggle badly.
COULD struggle?
This is disappointing not a struggle, yet.
So many games in such little time with a lot of the same players is killing us.
I don’t think we’ll be having this trouble next season.
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So many things wrong with Villa, both wing backs are crap sorry but they are. we had one shot on goal all day against a club with one of the worst home records this season. Their second was us pissing around in our defence, how many times have we seen that this season.
For once our subs added nothing, They man marked JM who tried to do too much and got caught out. The biggest difference was they played fast direct football we pissed around tip tapping it to each other. Olson coming out for the second half just summed up the day.
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So many things wrong with Villa, both wing backs are crap sorry but they are.
Digne and Garcia..?
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Juggling the team round to play five games in two weeks does not help us. This is our fourth game in that sequence, Palace have had three games - including a lovely week's break - in the same period.
But at least we were doing our bit to help our Merseyside friends avoid a fixture build up screwing up their season.
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I don't class Digne as a wing back and i think Garcia is crap.
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I don't class Digne as a wing back and i think Garcia is crap.
Garcia has just arrived and, after playing in Spanish second division, is adjusting to the Premier league. He has been excellent so far and far from crap.
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It's the lack of bottle and grit that hacks me iff