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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on December 01, 2024, 12:28:02 PM
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Play well and win. Philogene - do something please.
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Are the line-ups announced more than an hour before kick-off now? Game's gone.
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Play well and win. Philogene - do something please.
Defensive winger á la Bayern game.
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Surpised that madueke is benched
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Very attacking line up from Chelsea, 3 defenders.
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Philogene might be better than Bailey defensively in a game like this. I dont know who Chelsea have up front left but I can see them trying to make attacks from there so hopefully Philogene and Cash find their feet well. Hopefylly Watkins get a couple I think his form have been promising last games.
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Rogers undroppable it seems
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I thought Onana being fit and lining up next to Kamara might have given us a decent chance. I can only see one outcome now.
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its pretty close to our strongest team, so no real excuses if we don't get something other than a battering.
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Big game this. We need to show that we can still go toe to toe against clubs like Chelsea. No more behaving like underdogs in these games.
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Rogers undroppable it seems
He's the only one we have of that profile - technique strength and half-decent pace. With JJ's fitness unreliable, we badly need another option to kick Morgan out of the team when he's playing like a Middlesbrough player such as currently.
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Rogers undroppable it seems
Bailey's been worse, and dropping both of them with the options available would be hard. Bailey needs a spell coming on from the bench. It's just a shame that his replacement is Philogene.
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I think that team is good enough to come here and get a point. Maduake being benched is a bonus hes been outstanding against Villa the last few times. I would have dropped Rogers and played Ross Barkley in the 10 role.
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We need to show that we’re capable of committing against the top teams. So far haven’t laid a glove on the sky 6. That needs to change soon otherwise the season is going to get away from us
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Rogers undroppable it seems
So it would appear. I fear the faith in Jaden is misplaced too, not sure many of the players have faith in him either. Seems to be a reluctance to pass him the ball.
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Are the line-ups announced more than an hour before kick-off now? Game's gone.
75 mins before kick-off this season. Have a couple of caipirinhas and you won't care about it, or the result.
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Philogene might be better than Bailey defensively in a game like this. I dont know who Chelsea have up front left but I can see them trying to make attacks from there so hopefully Philogene and Cash find their feet well. Hopefylly Watkins get a couple I think his form have been promising last games.
Probably Sancho.
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Going to be a very difficult game, they have threats all over the pitch now compared to last season.
We'll lose this at least 3-1 I fear.
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We need to show that we’re capable of committing against the top teams. So far haven’t laid a glove on the sky 6. That needs to change soon otherwise the season is going to get away from us
We've played OK v Liverpool and Arsenal but didn't take our chances. When Watkins gets his customary 2 or 3 chances he needs to take them today. Do that and we can win this.
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All sky have talked about since I switched on about 15 minutes ago is 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' v citeh. Can't help themselves.
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All sky have talked about since I switched on about 15 minutes ago is 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' v citeh. Can't help themselves.
I know - knobbers
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Is it on at Villa park in one of the suites or bars?
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I actually thought Bailey was a bit better against Juve , not the bailey of old but made a chance for mcginn who should have scored , everytime Rogers got the ball he lost it and was pretty dire . I suppose without JJ naybe theres no other option but maybe Barkley and push YYouri further , lets hope Jaden has a similar munich game.
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They’re playing 3 at the back so will be pressing high
Could get a world record of pass backs to the goalkeeper from Konsa
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Time for Philogene to show he's a Premier League player today.
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Audio problems for Sky.
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Audio problems for Sky.
good
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The fact that Philogene is playing at all shows how desperate we are for quality down the flanks.
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FFS that didn't take long.
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Same old.
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Weak. Fucking weak as piss that.
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We’ll get thumped here.
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Great stuff philiogene
Hopeless and weak.
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ffs JAden
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Philogene made of snow !
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Well done philo
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Yet again Torres is powder puff, Philogene trying to control a ball when he should just help it on. Shit defending, shit decision making.
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This could be a long afternoon.
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nothing sticks to philogene touch of a trampoline
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Just tuning in and seeing that. Oh well. Might as well go and find something for my hangover…
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Duh duh duh duh duh f*****g hopeless.
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Have we ever conceded more goals in the first ten minutes of games?
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that touch in that area by Jaden is rubbish
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We are so so easy to play against. This’ll be 3 or 4 I suspect.
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Fuck off. With this ****** of a ref we will get murdered today. Philogene out of his depth completely
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Checks phone after 10 minutes... Predictable...
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We dont need to rely on the ref to give away goals and chances tbh
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Unless things change, we’re in trouble here.
Pathetic start.
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I miss Diaby.
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They did break through Phil and Cash side and score early on a bit as expected.
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It's a bit of an indictment that we're a Champions League team playing an important game away against a league rival, and we're starting a Championship-standard winner.
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They are quicker and stronger than us. Doesn't bode well
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Poor from Philogene there. Looked offside when the ball went out wide in the build up, but it's how far they go back I guess.
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I miss Diaby.
Fucking right - much maligned but actually made a positive contribution.
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Tielemans HAS to make that pass though.
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Tielemans marking palmer scares the shit out of me, he's already been caught the wrong side twice
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I still reckon the loss of Diaby is part of the reason why Bailey has looked lost this season.
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This is pathetic. Our longest winless run since the end of our first season back up under Smith.
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With a lame right side and no Ramsey on left we have no way out.
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I've gone from expecting us to beat everybody to waiting for us to concede.
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What's the point of drawing the opposition onto us if we do nothing to take advantage of it.
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Poor from Philogene there. Looked offside when the ball went out wide in the build up, but it's how far they go back I guess.
That entirely depends who is playing…
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Tielemans HAS to make that pass though.
AND that one.
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I miss Diaby.
Fucking right - much maligned but actually made a positive contribution.
The criticism of him was laughable. He was class.
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Our players are expert at tackling themselves
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Our defence is a shambles
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This is pathetic. Our longest winless run since the end of our first season back up under Smith.
So what do we do?
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Game over by half time?
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hit the ball youri ffs
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How can a “genius” manager make such a mess of trying to sort a defence? It’s an absolute fucking shambles.
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Watkins being Watkins
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That was some nice play to set up the Philogene chance
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Fuck sake Ollie. GOT TO SCORE!!!
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Another Watkins miss.
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weird thing is we have played some decent football just stupid errors as usual
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Watkins being Watkins
It's one of those days. FFS.
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Ffs Ollie
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That, from Watkins, was absolutely fucking shocking.
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Shit, Watkins. Just horrendously shit.
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Watkins was never going to pass there.
the space is behind their wing backs
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Fuck you Watkins. Lift your head!
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there you go ollie your fucking wasted one and one again
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Simple pass to Rodgers would help
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Fuck sake. Same old same old.
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Half arsed attempt from Watkins.
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Fucking Watkins doing fucking Watkins things. Again.
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There are times when I think Watkins is a brilliant striker. And then there are times when I think he’s not. His finishing often leaves a lot to be desired.
He normally scores at Stamford Bridge though.
But what on earth can we do about our defence? I think our opponents have worked out our weaknesses this season and utterly exploit them. And that’s going to have to be a total change in mentality somewhere?
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That's what separates the good from the great. Elite players make the most of those situations.
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Poor goal aside, we've actually started OK and created a couple of decent chances. Same culprits from recent weeks giving the ball away too much though.
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He’s a £28m rising to £33m striker that’s what you get.
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yeah I even think michael jackson scores that for them
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I think bringing Mings back instead of Torres would help a lot. Get back to basics.
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Think we are playing alright. They took their chance. We missed ours. He swapped Rogers and McGinn now which i was surprised he didn’t start with as McGinn did v well in the middle on Monday
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fuck off alan smith you boring twat
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We look like a lower to mid table side, out of their depth against the bigger teams. Not remotely good enough.
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Ollie doing what we’ve done all season, miss unbelievable chances.
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We’ll do ok miss a chance or two give ourselves a glimmer of hope
Then they’ll score another and we’ll be fucked
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I think bringing Mings back instead of Torres would help a lot. Get back to basics.
Same here. Torres is just a terrible defender.
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shocking finish by watkins on that replay
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Another Watkins miss.
Looks worse in slow motion
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There in a nutshell is why we’re falling behind the rest. They’ve had one real chance and scored, we missed our chance. You have to score chances like those
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Another Watkins miss.
Looks worse in slow motion
It looked pretty fucking bad in real time.
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I think bringing Mings back instead of Torres would help a lot. Get back to basics.
100% this. Torres is the elephant in the room
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Fcuk me he’s given a back pass for that what a Cnut Attwell is here.
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Attwell the Cov supporter strikes again!
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fuck off alan smith you boring twat
He's a ******. Seems to love watching us lose. Nasal twat.
More want defending from Torres.
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1-0 Well done lads
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Torres really is an over rated player.
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Hahahaha! Fuck me.
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Oh just seriously fuck off! This is pathetic. At what point can a team walk off a pitch due to referee bias?
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I can't watch this
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Awful Tielemans and Torres
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Well done Youri and then amateur hour between Pau and Emi.
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another defender fuck up
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Jesus Christ almighty what the fuck is going on???!?!
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Our defence just finds new ways to be incompetent. When was the last time we saw a free kick for a backpass?
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Our fans in great voice. Can't hear theirs at all.
FFS back pass. No way.
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What the fuck is wrong with our defence
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There is noway they are not scoring here
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Tielemans shouldn't have got caught, but that is never a back pass.
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It hits Pau's foot. No way is that a back pass. What a wanker Atwell is.
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Torres and Emi, pair of absolute morons.
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I don’t think I can watch any more of this toss
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Attwell should not be allowed to ref Villa matches!
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This is like mid 90s away at Anfield under Big Ron.
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I do think it's a poor decision but Emi has no business taking that chance, just get fucking rid of the thing.
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Fucking bunch of clowns at the back. Emery needs to sort this shit out. Laughable and embarrassing defending.
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Omg what a let off
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Great pass back to the goalkeeper from Watkins,
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bodies on the line! thats the spirt!
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I do think it's a poor decision but Emi has no business taking that chance, just get fucking rid of the thing.
If in doubt, launch it, as Alan Hanson used to say.
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Got away with that one. Suicidal defending. Yes the ref is a tw** but that was all down to us.
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Fucking bunch of clowns at the back. Emery needs to sort this shit out. Laughable and embarrassing defending.
It's not a back pass though, it's shite refereeing
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emi again
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Got away with it that was utterly shambolic from 3 experienced players.
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villa wouldnt get that free kick thou
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I do think it's a poor decision but Emi has no business taking that chance, just get fucking rid of the thing.
If in doubt, launch it, as Alan Hanson used to say.
If in doubt, boot it out.
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Torres had his back to Emi and was shaping up to kick the ball away when Emi claimed the ball - in which universe is that a back-pass?
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Fucking bunch of clowns at the back. Emery needs to sort this shit out. Laughable and embarrassing defending.
It's not a back pass though, it's shite refereeing
Of course it was. He controlled it with his foot towards Martinez, who picked it up.
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It's almost as though the players are trying to get the manager the sack
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Emery getting schooled again here.
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Fucking bunch of clowns at the back. Emery needs to sort this shit out. Laughable and embarrassing defending.
It's not a back pass though, it's shite refereeing
Where did I say it was?
Our defending has been shit for a while now and needs sorting out.
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Torres had his back to Emi and was shaping up to kick the ball away when Emi claimed the ball - in which universe is that a back-pass?
Stuart Atwell's.
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Tielemans is having a nightmare.
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Fcuk me emi
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Amazing how much higher standard Emi is in Champions League games
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Utter, utter shambles, twice. Emi and Cash.
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Jesus christ!
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Probably going off here
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When is Emery going to drive the clown car on to the pitch?
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This is getting worse, what goes on at Bodymore? I’m retreating behind the sofa.
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Shambles.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
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Our players' brains are frazzled. Why though? The famous Unai information overload side-effect we've heard so often about?
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Amazing how much higher standard Emi is in Champions League games
Lower quality of teams!
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Its like having 5 stevie wonders at the back.
What the fuck are they doing in training?
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Jesus Christ almighty - maybe knock the pass around the back on the head until we’re vaguely competent again.
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I really think we’ve got to get Mings back in this side. We’re not going to win games if we continue to be so weak defensively.
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What the fuck is happening?
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FFS what on earth is going on here today, serious case of the defensive jitters
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Who is the F ing skipper, because he seriously needs to have a few words
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Get Mings on for Torres at half time. Bailey might aswell come on too.
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We are brainless - mentally completely shot at the moment. Too much pressure?
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Atwell having a lovely pally moment with Enzo there, heartwarming to see.
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Who is the F ing skipper, because he seriously needs to have a few words
There is a serious lack of leadership all over the pitch.
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Did they have the Christmas party yesterday?
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Mistakes that would been made under the like of Stevie, absolutely disgusting
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if we can get to half time at 0-1 we can't be as shit second half surely
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Has mcginn touched the ball? How is he captain?
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Depressing that we are now below man united
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Cash you clown
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if we can get to half time at 0-1 we can't be as shit second half surely
Wanna bet?
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if we can get to half time at 0-1 we can't be as shit second half surely
You just know what most of us are thinking, don’t you?
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if we can get to half time at 0-1 we can't be as shit second half surely
Oh
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2-0
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It was all just so predictable really.
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absolute shiteeeeeeeee
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Game over
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going to be 5 0 here
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FFS 2-0 I give up with this lot.
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Rip it up Emery and start again.
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What a bunch of fucking losers
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jaden wank
torres wank
morgan wank
watkins wank
the rest just wank
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The lower reaches of the table beckon. It was nice while it lasted.
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Im done with this shit
Fucking same shit. Miss chances cant defend and then punished.
Rinse and repeat
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How is it possible to constantly have no pressure in midfield? Whenever we have the ball it's like we're up against The Blob, when they get the ball it's like taking a gentle stroll through a massive field.
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This is worse than Fulham away under Gerrard. Embarrassing.
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If they don’t take wins from the next two he’s going to be in trouble in my view.
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Well that was pathetically easy.
This has been amateurish, sort it the fuck out.
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Cash not even looking at the ball there.
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Manure, Newcastle and the mighty Fulham all gone above us, as it stands!!
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Absolute fucking shambles. That should've been cleared.
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If they don’t take wins from the next two he’s going to be in trouble in my view.
And rightly so.
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No one worried still then?
If this doesnt worry you i dont know what will.
We are fucking shit
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This is going exactly how I thought it would. FFS the problems are blindingly obvious but nothing changes at the moment.
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This is awful. It all stems from a shit transfer window. We have a worse team now than we did last season.
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If they don’t take wins from the next two he’s going to be in trouble in my view.
I bet you're itching to start the 'Emery Out' thread.
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We need to stop fucking about.
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No one worried still then?
If this doesnt worry you i dont know what will.
We are fucking shit
Keep your spirits up
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At the moment I will be happy to see us get to 38 points and safety.
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I don’t think they want this, the attitude is shit.
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watkins again couldn't get a shot off.... for england the nets bulging
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
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Im done with this shit
Fucking same shit. Miss chances cant defend and then punished.
Rinse and repeat
same against spurs to make it 2 0 and arsenal .. always the same
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We look nothing like the side that finished 7th or 4th. I cannot get my head around how much worse we are today than a year ago, or even two years ago when we got a win against Man U and Brighton.
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Serious question…
I don’t want to say this, because I love him but…
How much time do we give Emery to sort this out? This next transfer window? We’re not looking anywhere near the team that we were at the start of the season… something is wrong - again.
I trust Emery to sort it out, but I suspect we’ve been found out tactically and our players seem to be mentally out of their depth.
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This is worse than Fulham away under Gerrard. Embarrassing.
Absolutely.
Fucking shambles.
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This is worse than Fulham away under Gerrard. Embarrassing.
Just say it man, you know you want to.
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This is awful. It all stems from a shit transfer window. We have a worse team now than we did last season.
Spot on. Not good enough, compounded by shit coaching. Same mistakes, week in, week out.
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There doesn’t seem to be any enthusiasm amongst them. Nobody is moving, nobody wants the ball.
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Scoreline flatters us.
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This is awful. It all stems from a shit transfer window. We have a worse team now than we did last season.
Alot of us said this in the summer. Its in plain sight for us all to see. We are factually worse than last season.
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Martinez going to come off
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Serious question…
I don’t want to say this, because I love him but…
How much time do we give Emery to sort this out? This next transfer window? We’re not looking anywhere near the team that we were at the start of the season… something is wrong - again.
I trust Emery to sort it out, but I suspect we’ve been found out tactically and our players seem to be mentally out of their depth.
A very long time. He will get it right, but he is not getting it right at present and neither are the players.
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kamara is clas youri gone shite
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The biggest problem is that we never take our fucking chances when we need to. It’s why every single defensive fuck up is a disaster.
I don’t want to see Watkins come out second half. Get Duran on and Bailey too. This is shite.
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Is McGinn still on the pitch?
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
Semper fidelis.
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Even fuckin manure can win games 2 up
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Martinez going to come off
He’s been playing like Olsen so might as well put actual Olsen on.
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This has been awful. We've had a couple of chances but just have zero confidence. Need to grab one before half time, obviously, but can't see how that happens.
They seems to be able to press us and yet still outnumber us at the back when we go forward.
And Olsen is going to come on as well today. Just what we need.
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Yikes, tielemans is slower than my nan
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Confidence is low and when they run at us, we shit the bed. On another note, Southampton next weekend might be a good time to start Duran.
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what a pass by Jaden now fuck off
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Fuck off Philogene, absolute waste of a shirt. Hooked at half time please.
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
So much self-pity in this post I had to wipe it off my screen.
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I think this Philogene experiment needs to end .
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Philogene arguably the worst I’ve seen since Bacuna.
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Even fuckin manure can win games 2 up
So fucking what
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Philogene is the new didier agathe
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Philogene really is shit. He’ll get replaced at half time.
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what a pass by Jaden now fuck off
He looks like a fan who won a competition to play.
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This is awful. It all stems from a shit transfer window. We have a worse team now than we did last season.
Correct.
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This is worse than Fulham away under Gerrard. Embarrassing.
Just say it man, you know you want to.
Utter nonsense.
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Why the fuck and how the fuck does philogene play premier league football?
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
So much self-pity in this post I had to wipe it off my screen.
I’m not sure this situation is the best time for your posts, dripping in smug as they are.
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The biggest problem is that we never take our fucking chances when we need to. It’s why every single defensive fuck up is a disaster.
I don’t want to see Watkins come out second half. Get Duran on and Bailey too. This is shite.
This....I'm fed up of Watkins missing simple chances every game it constantly puts pressure on the rest of the team.
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Philogene passes straight to one of them in a promising position. Tremendous.
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It would be good to introduce Rogers to the concept of passing. He plays like a precocious eleven-year-old.
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best striker at the club sits on the bench
while the second best striker starts 49 out of 50 times
I know most of you don’t agree but I don’t care
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
So much self-pity in this post I had to wipe it off my screen.
I’m not sure this situation is the best time for your posts, dripping in smug as they are.
You're right, maybe it's time for BLIND RAGE.
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
So much self-pity in this post I had to wipe it off my screen.
So much stupidity in this post, but the same can be said for every one of your posts, so situation normal
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Serious question…
I don’t want to say this, because I love him but…
How much time do we give Emery to sort this out? This next transfer window? We’re not looking anywhere near the team that we were at the start of the season… something is wrong - again.
I trust Emery to sort it out, but I suspect we’ve been found out tactically and our players seem to be mentally out of their depth.
I wished he would go back to actually looking how other teams are setup and playing to counter them. Not sure what the videos are about anymore but it seems to be "Look, see how this team played against our opponents, they were incisive and played really fast on the counters, and were especially weak against wingers", so taking that on board, we should play it backwards as much as possible, and slow it right down when we are on transition. Like last week, and the week before, and the week before.
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Tielemans' passing today :(
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Fuck off Philogene, absolute waste of a shirt. Hooked at half time please.
He can go. Im done with him. He is fucking shit
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not another 5 mins plese it could be 3
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Something has been 'off' all season. maybe some of the in the know here are aware what it is but something hasn't been right.
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We have been poor for ages, no surprises today. Our defense is a liability and has been for months, we are laughably bad at playing out from the back and we persist with it. We are in trouble
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
So much self-pity in this post I had to wipe it off my screen.
So much stupidity in this post, but the same can be said for every one of your posts, so situation normal
Sick burn.
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And another miss by Watkins.
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best striker at the club sits on the bench
while the second best striker starts 49 out of 50 times
I know most of you don’t agree but I don’t care
I'm with you John.
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Tielemans' passing today :(
He also can't run, he looks fucked for some reason- his lack of physicality when he's out of form is really something to see
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Terrible half but I don't think anyone should be too surprised given how the last month has gone.
Top 4 isn't realistic at all currently, Chelsea are far better than us and picking up results in other games they need to make it, we're not.
7th looks a push at this rate so we badly need to win the two home games we have coming up otherwise there will be massive issues starting to form.
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Another Watkins miss.
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No, everything is perfect. And if you say otherwise, you are “fickle”.
So much self-pity in this post I had to wipe it off my screen.
I’m not sure this situation is the best time for your posts, dripping in smug as they are.
You're right, maybe it's time for BLIND RAGE.
Haven’t you got some cold-pressed olive oil to attend to?
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rubbish again
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What is the most subs we can bring on? Is it 12?
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Jaden does something good and Watkins ... Dear oh dear
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Serious question…
I don’t want to say this, because I love him but…
How much time do we give Emery to sort this out? This next transfer window? We’re not looking anywhere near the team that we were at the start of the season… something is wrong - again.
I trust Emery to sort it out, but I suspect we’ve been found out tactically and our players seem to be mentally out of their depth.
A very long time. He will get it right, but he is not getting it right at present and neither are the players.
I think our biggest problem this season has been that we lost players in the summer and failed to replace them adequately. The two who we took from Juventus could have been exceptionally useful at the moment.
We are missing Diaby, we are missing Luiz. They were cores of the team whether we liked it or not. By losing them, we lost a valuable contribution to our assists.
Defensively, the high line has been sussed out and our weaknesses have been exposed.
The January transfer window is going to be very very telling though. Either we’re backing to improve or we’re not - and if we have to endure the 2nd half of the season with these players alone, we’re in for a horrible journey.
I have no doubt that Emery will sort it out though in time - it’s just a question of what comes first - that, or the patience of our owners.
We’re suffering from this last summer now…
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This is worse than Fulham away under Gerrard. Embarrassing.
Absolutely.
Fucking shambles.
No it isn't
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Chelsea press and villa's is miles apart
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It would be good to introduce Rogers to the concept of passing. He plays like a precocious eleven-year-old.
I'd take him out of the starting 11. Should've played an extra CM today just to make it a bit more difficult for Chelsea to pass through us.
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Another Watkins miss.
I can fart harder than he shoots
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Playing a waiting game at two nil down
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There child be 5 changes at HT here
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I cant believe I was happy when Jaden came back as I though he looked great last season at Hull. He has been absolutely dire all season.
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Something has been 'off' all season. maybe some of the in the know here are aware what it is but something hasn't been right.
I think the biggest issue is not replacing the goal scoring of diaby and luiz. We lost 15 goals and replaced them with onana who is injury prone doesn't score as many as dougie and inconsistent and a hopeless player like philiogene.
Not signing a problem right back as well.
This teams embarrassing to watch at times when you see how we defend as well
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Fucking Watkins.
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Once Philogene bottled it , the game was over.
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Can’t play Philogene, Rogers and Tielemans when we line up so defensively. Waste of three places!
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There child be 5 changes at HT here
66 minutes, Watkins for Duran. 75th, Bailey for Philogene.
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Chelsea press and villa's is miles apart
They've obviously been told not to press even when losing.
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Pathetic again - there are too many players playing badly for it to just be about form. Sort it out Unai, this is unacceptable.
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We seem to be very easy to play against.
Teams don’t have to do too much to hurt us, whereas we are now incredibly ineffective
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Serious question…
I don’t want to say this, because I love him but…
How much time do we give Emery to sort this out? This next transfer window? We’re not looking anywhere near the team that we were at the start of the season… something is wrong - again.
I trust Emery to sort it out, but I suspect we’ve been found out tactically and our players seem to be mentally out of their depth.
A very long time. He will get it right, but he is not getting it right at present and neither are the players.
I think our biggest problem this season has been that we lost players in the summer and failed to replace them adequately. The two who we took from Juventus could have been exceptionally useful at the moment.
We are missing Diaby, we are missing Luiz. They were cores of the team whether we liked it or not. By losing them, we lost a valuable contribution to our assists.
Defensively, the high line has been sussed out and our weaknesses have been exposed.
The January transfer window is going to be very very telling though. Either we’re backing to improve or we’re not - and if we have to endure the 2nd half of the season with these players alone, we’re in for a horrible journey.
I have no doubt that Emery will sort it out though in time - it’s just a question of what comes first - that, or the patience of our owners.
We’re suffering from this last summer now…
Our wide options are rubbish let's be honest. Bailey was brilliant this time last year but a shadow of that currently and if he picked up a knock we could just move Diaby out there.
Jaden I'm afraid just isn't good enough for the level we're currently at, Ipswich would've been a far better move for him so that's the drawbacks of PSR and buyback clauses. We just exercised it to game the system a bit but young players are humans aswell.
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Please take Watkins Philogene Tielemans off.
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watkins smashed colwill there....nice
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Terrible half but I don't think anyone should be too surprised given how the last month has gone.
Top 4 isn't realistic at all currently, Chelsea are far better than us and picking up results in other games they need to make it, we're not.
7th looks a push at this rate so we badly need to win the two home games we have coming up otherwise there will be massive issues starting to form.
The whole of the calendar year never mind the last month.
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Booo
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I cant believe I was happy when Jaden came back as I though he looked great last season at Hull. He has been absolutely dire all season.
Same here
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Serious question…
I don’t want to say this, because I love him but…
How much time do we give Emery to sort this out? This next transfer window? We’re not looking anywhere near the team that we were at the start of the season… something is wrong - again.
I trust Emery to sort it out, but I suspect we’ve been found out tactically and our players seem to be mentally out of their depth.
A very long time. He will get it right, but he is not getting it right at present and neither are the players.
I think our biggest problem this season has been that we lost players in the summer and failed to replace them adequately. The two who we took from Juventus could have been exceptionally useful at the moment.
We are missing Diaby, we are missing Luiz. They were cores of the team whether we liked it or not. By losing them, we lost a valuable contribution to our assists.
Defensively, the high line has been sussed out and our weaknesses have been exposed.
The January transfer window is going to be very very telling though. Either we’re backing to improve or we’re not - and if we have to endure the 2nd half of the season with these players alone, we’re in for a horrible journey.
I have no doubt that Emery will sort it out though in time - it’s just a question of what comes first - that, or the patience of our owners.
We’re suffering from this last summer now…
I agree with this. PSR killed us, but you have to question the Diaby move. For all is flaws, he clearly is better than Philogene. The question is, to what degree, if at all, are we past the PSR issues? If we are not, then we are in for another tough summer. Makes it important for Monchi/Emery to get it right.
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Fuck off Philogene, absolute waste of a shirt. Hooked at half time please.
He can go. Im done with him. He is fucking shit
Let's all calm down. Lots of us need him to get booked first then he can do one.
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I cant believe I was happy when Jaden came back as I though he looked great last season at Hull. He has been absolutely dire all season.
He looks like he won his starting place in a raffle. Nowhere near good enough for this club
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Thwy deserve to be booed off. Losers
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A garbage first half, mistakes and poor play all over the pitch. Bailey and Duran on for Philogene and Watkins please.
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Dreadful
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Monchi did nothing last summer other than pick up cast off from other English clubs and Juventus.
Better off swapping him for a defensive coach!
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It appears we have our Villa back.
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The problems that s in the system and players comes to show in a game like this
- Some of the defenders not good enough on the ball to play out from the back as the system dictate
- Watkins being good but not scoring
- Cash ar RB
If Olsen coming on - as Martinez are carrying an injury it seems, then there can be the opposite of fun rest of the game
And yes putting on a player like Phil to start, a player that i suited to play five last minutes - when we are comfortable in lead, to get experience.
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This is like watching 2010s Villa, best we can hope for is keeping the score down.
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Suicidal football. Giving the ball away at will, zero aggression Kamara aside. Slack, half arsed and appallingly careless.
And when we do get chance it looks like we can't actually be arsed to score.
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Fuck off Philogene, absolute waste of a shirt. Hooked at half time please.
He can go. Im done with him. He is fucking shit
Let's all calm down. Lots of us need him to get booked first then he can do one.
Cant believe what a flop he has been. I did think he might not be ready but didnt think he would be this bad.
Replacing diaby with him was just sheer insanity
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Lack of leadership imo, mcginn is captain yet he's been invisible for months, literally don't recall him having the ball today
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We have no pace, no creativity, Watkins is isolated. Can't defend like men, don't get close enough to them to stop them from passing through us. Really poor first half, Bailey on for Philogene at half time. I am losing faith in Emery but mostly because he wasn't supported properly in the summer.
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We could do with some more talent in the squad.
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They have absolutely no confidence, no for,. and in one or two cases not enough ability. Emery's football is very fine-tuned and high-risk, you need everything to go right, and if the players don't have the mindset to pull it off it can really collapse horribly.
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We have no pace, no creativity, Watkins is isolated. Can't defend like men, don't get close enough to them to stop them from passing through us. Really poor first half, Bailey on for Philogene at half time. I am losing faith in Emery but mostly because he wasn't supported properly in the summer.
Watkins has cost us so mamy points this season with his misses. I knew he was going to miss that one on one. I reckon duran buries that
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Genuinely like watching Gerard’s villa team this is. It’s been a bit crap for a while now, but this is unacceptable today. Kamara aside, every player is having a mare. Emery needs to make lots of changes at HT or we will lose this 4 or 5 nil.
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Fuck off Philogene, absolute waste of a shirt. Hooked at half time please.
He can go. Im done with him. He is fucking shit
Let's all calm down. Lots of us need him to get booked first then he can do one.
Cant believe what a flop he has been. I did think he might not be ready but didnt think he would be this bad.
Replacing diaby with him was just sheer insanity
Depends if your definition of insanity is to with football or business
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It is a spectacular fall from looking like we could beat anyone to this insipid mistake ridden pathetic performance.
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They have absolutely no confidence, no for,. and in one or two cases not enough ability. Emery's football is very fine-tuned and high-risk, you need everything to go right, and if the players don't have the mindset to pull it off it can really collapse horribly.
Well said.
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Astonishing performance from Villa, the only merit we have gained from that rubbish is sending Chelsea to sleep, terrible game of football all around, utterly boring, Watkins craps himself in front of goal, has Rogers touched the ball, based on the first half Watkins off now, Rogers off now, Jaden off period, we need attacking creative options, where do we find that??.
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if it couldn't get any worse, we now have to listen to Sturridge. I thought it was impossible to get a more irritating pundit than Micah Richards, but guess what?
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This is worse than Fulham away under Gerrard. Embarrassing.
Absolutely.
Fucking shambles.
No it isn't
Your opinion but this it the worst we have played since that Fulham game. The defence is a fucking shambles and doesn’t look remotely like we were last season. Torres might be good at bringing a ball out of defence but he needs to learn to defend first and foremost.
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I think Cash has played quite well so far in a defensively poor side. One of the key problems is players not controlling the ball or being able to retain possession: combine that with the fact Tielemans has been poor and it's no surprise to see us 2-0 down.
We're slow generally, and defensively we're too deep.
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I actually think we played ok until we went two down. After that it has been atrocious.
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On the bright side we should be 4-0 down, those two gifts from Martinez, the back pass and the pass to jackson.
and it's not like we created zero. Watkins has had 3 sniffs. There is space behind their full backs
Emery will be tearing the paint off the walls. Mike basset bastards of bastards stuff.
but yeah this is the worst half I've seen under emery.
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Got to bring 3 subs on immediately: Barkley, Duran and - I suppose - Bailey.
He won't immediately, though.
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Chris Hecks prices going to start to look very silly to watch this shower of shite
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Thing is, we've actually created a few openings! Watkins has fucked two very good chances! There's still the kernel of the good team in there. It's just that it's a kernel surrounded by candy floss and blancmange.
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Have just got back in after being out. I take it it’s not going well?
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Bizarrely we’re still in the game if he can come up with changes at half time!
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On the bright side we should be 4-0 down, those two gifts from Martinez, the back pass and the pass to jackson.
and it's not like we created zero. Watkins has had 3 sniffs. There is space behind their full backs
Emery will be tearing the paint off the walls. Mike basset bastards of bastards stuff.
but yeah this is the worst half I've seen under emery.
it wasn't a back pass, if you look at Torres' body position
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That was horrid - felt very similar to the kind of games that managers have at the end.
Not suggesting that - we’ve been awful FFP fucked us. We need to hold our nerve. He’ll find answers.
I think plan a is not working at the moment and we need to try something different. Bring Mings in for example.
We said that mings and Beundia would be like new signing but they have played nowhere near the amount of football Zanilio or Lenglet played
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Score the next goal and we'll get something out of the game.
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I think Cash has played quite well so far in a defensively poor side. One of the key problems is players not controlling the ball or being able to retain possession: combine that with the fact Tielemans has been poor and it's no surprise to see us 2-0 down.
We're slow generally, and defensively we're too deep.
Funny how we all see things differently. Cash looks like a pub player to me today. He’s given away 3 needless corners and has bashed a knee high back pass to Martínez. The defence is shot, made worse because our centre forward is on one of his cold streaks.
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Barkley on for Rogers, Tielemans to 10, which should've happened about a month ago tbh. Bailey on for Philogene, because he's proven he has that level and it's our only option on the right. Duran on for Watkins. Mings on for Torres.
All at half time.
If there's not an improvement by the 46th minute, then Buendia on for McGinn.
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The only good thing is, they're only 2 up.
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I can't believe how easy that first half was for Chelsea.
Apart from one good move down our left we just tried a few hopeful punts up for Watkins to chase.
Watkins has been terrible by the way.
Damage limitation coming up second half with probably Olsen coming on....Yikes!
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Something has been 'off' all season. maybe some of the in the know here are aware what it is but something hasn't been right.
I think the biggest issue is not replacing the goal scoring of diaby and luiz. We lost 15 goals and replaced them with onana who is injury prone doesn't score as many as dougie and inconsistent and a hopeless player like philiogene.
Not signing a problem right back as well.
This teams embarrassing to watch at times when you see how we defend as well
agree but if watkins scores its 1 0 and adifferent game like arsenal and spurs before . We are nowhere near as good as liast season but we are missing easy chances put them in and brings confindence , he has cost us a few points this season , I think I saw something where Villa miss the most big chances, so we have created.
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Can Cash not pass at least once into the channel for Jaden?
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
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After Tyrone deciding he wanted to play basketball instead of football and Emi/Torres and Emi again, it really does feel like our defence is brain-fart central.
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Thing is, we've actually created a few openings! Watkins has fucked two very good chances! There's still the kernel of the good team in there. It's just that it's a kernel surrounded by candy floss and blancmange.
Comes a time though mate when you have to make difficult decisions and take ollie off. He missed sitters vs arsenal spurs and now today. Punished in all of those.
He is costing us. When you ahve no one wlse that helps with scoring either then you are in trouble.
Rogers and onana are the next closest to him in terms of goals. Barkley has 2 as well and that speaks volumes having being one of our most goal scoring midfielders
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Turned off match notification and will not watch the second half either, wife said we could go for a drive, the reply was swift and precise, unlike Watkins,see you full time hoping for a miracle
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Bizarrely we’re still in the game if he can come up with changes at half time!
There is absolutely zero chance we’re getting back in this game.
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I liked the days when Emery would change things mid game if it wasn't working out.
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I think Cash has played quite well so far in a defensively poor side. One of the key problems is players not controlling the ball or being able to retain possession: combine that with the fact Tielemans has been poor and it's no surprise to see us 2-0 down.
We're slow generally, and defensively we're too deep.
Funny how we all see things differently. Cash looks like a pub player to me today. He’s given away 3 needless corners and has bashed a knee high back pass to Martínez. The defence is shot, made worse because our centre forward is on one of his cold streaks.
I agree he got worse as the half progressed, and the back pass was terrible!
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Looks like Olsen is coming on.
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
Well I'd say it's open to interpretation rather than delusion
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
Yep it’s very clear. I think it’s symptomatic of where they all are at the moment. They’re mentally not there at all.
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Oh Fcuk Olsen is coming in.
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Looks like Olsen is coming on.
Well that's just great.
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This is worse than Fulham away under Gerrard. Embarrassing.
Absolutely.
Fucking shambles.
No it isn't
Your opinion but this it the worst we have played since that Fulham game. The defence is a fucking shambles and doesn’t look remotely like we were last season. Torres might be good at bringing a ball out of defence but he needs to learn to defend first and foremost.
It has been a shambolic performance in many areas but there is always a lot of recency bias when the team is playing badly.
We got battered a couple of times last season because, as Monty says, the football is high risk and when nuts come loose at the same time, the wheels fall off.
Pretty much every player is now suffering for form, Tielemans and Konsa have joined others. But we have actually lost three and drawn two of the five games we haven't won, away at Liverpool, Spuds and now here. Sadly Chelsea are way better than they were, they have two hundred million pound players in midfield and a cracking four four. They are a good side, we are out of form. This is the result.
But it doesn't mean we are as shit as we were under Gerrard. That Fulham game was a performance devoid of tactics and structure. This is one devoid of confidence, form and littered with individual errors from multiple players.
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
And some of you are just plain wrong!!😁
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Oh dear.
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Something has been 'off' all season. maybe some of the in the know here are aware what it is but something hasn't been right.
I think the biggest issue is not replacing the goal scoring of diaby and luiz. We lost 15 goals and replaced them with onana who is injury prone doesn't score as many as dougie and inconsistent and a hopeless player like philiogene.
Not signing a problem right back as well.
This teams embarrassing to watch at times when you see how we defend as well
agree but if watkins scores its 1 0 and adifferent game like arsenal and spurs before . We are nowhere near as good as liast season but we are missing easy chances put them in and brings confindence , he has cost us a few points this season , I think I saw something where Villa miss the most big chances, so we have created.
We look so slow without diaby. Its incredible how much slower you can become as a team when one player leaves.
Break the abank get mbeulo
Olsen on
5-0 incoming
Fuck this im not bothering 2nd half
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McGinn deeper alongside Kamara please. Midfield is getting pissed all over
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Looks like Olsen is coming on.
Well that's just great.
Only Martinez to blame for that unfortunately
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Just one sub, Robin Olsen. Oh boy.
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
I'm not deluded. Torres controlled the ball with his foot and was shaping to kick it away with the other when Emi picked it up.
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At least the away Villa fans haven't given up, they have been in great voice. Surprised not more changes at half time.
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He touched it with his foot intentionally towards Martinez, who picked it up. Of course it was a back pass, the only time it's not if a player touches it with a foot is when it's shot at a player and it pings off them accidentally.
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It’ll be 5, we look mentally gone here. Fuck knows how Unai fixes this side.
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Barkley on for Rogers, Tielemans to 10, which should've happened about a month ago tbh. Bailey on for Philogene, because he's proven he has that level and it's our only option on the right. Duran on for Watkins. Mings on for Torres.
All at half time.
If there's not an improvement by the 46th minute, then Buendia on for McGinn.
Or alternatively, bring on Olsen.
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Looks like Olsen is coming on.
Well that's just great.
Only Martinez to blame for that unfortunately
He injured himself taking a cross just before the brain fart.
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Bizarrely we’re still in the game if he can come up with changes at half time!
There is absolutely zero chance we’re getting back in this game.
I agree, hope must be to show some better figure second half though. Then question is how we can come back with further improvements after this game.
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Olsen coming on means we will get the ball forward faster because he is less capable with the ball at his feet.
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It's unravelling under Emery as fast as he made us very good . This is very very worrying and has been for months
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Oh great. That’s all we need with Cash & Konsa playing like the Keystone Cops in front of him. Hopefully this will focus their minds.
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Olsen to save us.
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Bad luck John!
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Just one sub, Robin Olsen. Oh boy.
Its deeply worryin that unai sees no issue with the team. He should have made 3 subs at half time.
Now olsen in goal our goal difference ia going to take a tanking
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I don’t like this.
The poor patch has gone on way too long for my liking.
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Bizarrely we’re still in the game if he can come up with changes at half time!
Well arguably we were ….until Emi came off.
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He touched it with his foot intentionally towards Martinez, who picked it up. Of course it was a back pass, the only time it's not if a player touches it with a foot is when it's shot at a player and it pings off them accidentally.
Oh no he didn't!
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
I'm not deluded.
That's exactly what a deluded person would write. Makes you think.
(https://i.ibb.co/3mYP5dj/bafkreidjtgpcaky4y7uqsd7smbp5qponh4tn6bxeuflhaliwsvpvgwbd4u.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3mYP5dj)
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We have no pace, no creativity, Watkins is isolated. Can't defend like men, don't get close enough to them to stop them from passing through us. Really poor first half, Bailey on for Philogene at half time. I am losing faith in Emery but mostly because he wasn't supported properly in the summer.
Watkins has cost us so mamy points this season with his misses. I knew he was going to miss that one on one. I reckon duran buries that
simon Le bon buries it
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Martinez the only change, oh dear.
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I don’t like this.
The poor patch has gone on way too long for my liking.
Yep, the concern is this is no longer a bad patch and now the new normal.
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I don’t like this.
The poor patch has gone on way too long for my liking.
Indeed, so many players underperforming says to me there’s an underlying issue.
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Bad luck John!
I ain’t done nothing mate 😃
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Intellect from Olsen there, who'd have thought...
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
I'm not deluded.
That's exactly what a deluded person would write. Makes you think.
(https://i.ibb.co/3mYP5dj/bafkreidjtgpcaky4y7uqsd7smbp5qponh4tn6bxeuflhaliwsvpvgwbd4u.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3mYP5dj)
Don't you dare call me deluded!!
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It’s just incredible that only 5 weeks ago we were top 4 in the PL, beaten Bologna in the CL to maintain our 100% record. Then came that late goal for Bournemouth and we have completely fallen apart. It’s almost impossible to explain.
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Have just got back in after being out. I take it it’s not going well?
I'd go back out again if I were you. Nothing to see here.
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I don’t like this.
The poor patch has gone on way too long for my liking.
Yep, the concern is this is no longer a bad patch and now the new normal.
I really think Doug and Diaby are big misses, particularly as Onana has been unfit a fair bit (played well when he wasn’t) and Philogene essentially being Diaby’s replacement couldn’t have been much worse.
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There has to be an underlying issue the momentum built up has come to a halt.
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It’s just incredible that only 5 weeks ago we were top 4 in the PL, beaten Bologna in the CL to maintain our 100% record. Then came that late goal for Bournemouth and we have completely fallen apart. It’s almost impossible to explain.
Well I think some of the issues that existed in that run are now exposed. We’ve been rubbish defensively for a long while and our attacking quality was mitigating that. It’s not now and that’s why we’re fucked.
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Lack of movement, lack of belief and spirit.
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Now spurs winning ffs
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Rogers again unable to complete a pass
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It’s just incredible that only 5 weeks ago we were top 4 in the PL, beaten Bologna in the CL to maintain our 100% record. Then came that late goal for Bournemouth and we have completely fallen apart. It’s almost impossible to explain.
That would have just covered the cracks mate. The signs were there earlier in the season where we had to have duran bail us out with wonder strikes
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There has to be an underlying issue the momentum built up has come to a halt.
A number of issues.
1) a defence that has been poor for a year now
2) a bad summer transfer window
3) a tactically inflexible manager
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That was as bad as it gets from Philogene
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Now spurs winning ffs
Don't know if we really need to be worrying about that, at this rate.
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Questions have to be asked of the manager
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It’s just incredible that only 5 weeks ago we were top 4 in the PL, beaten Bologna in the CL to maintain our 100% record. Then came that late goal for Bournemouth and we have completely fallen apart. It’s almost impossible to explain.
Well I think some of the issues that existed in that run are now exposed. We’ve been rubbish defensively for a long while and our attacking quality was mitigating that. It’s not now and that’s why we’re fucked.
Finishing fourth after conceding as many goals as we did last year was remarkable.
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get him off for that pathetic dive
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Great dive philiogene. You are a embarrassment mate
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Oh dear Jaden
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Too easy
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Every player is off it. We even miss out on 70-30 balls in our favour
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That was as bad as it gets from Philogene
That’s where we are at mo
More interested in going down for a foul than playing football
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Questions have to be asked of the manager
Ask away
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We are short on confidence.
Players and fans tbh. I certainly am - gone from always fancying us to win, including at places like this, to expecting a defeat very quickly.
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Jaden booked for diving. Second yellow just before full time please ref.
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Still no changes, right
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JPB going all Trezeguet
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I'm afraid Philogene has had an incredibly bad game.
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McGinn looks fat, again.
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the outball pass always to someone with an opponent right up his chuff, too tight to turn
they're pressing the shit out of us
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the outball pass always to someone with an opponent right up his chuff, too tight to turn
they're pressing the shit out of us
Of late, we’ve play with so little energy and speed (of thought and action).
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What's the point in diving? What would we do with another missed penalty?
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Philogene is so bad
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I'm afraid Philogene has had an incredibly bad game.
He's an incredibly bad player so to be expected
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What's the point in diving? What would we do with another missed penalty?
Concede immediately at the other end.
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I'm afraid Philogene has had an incredibly bad game.
It’s not really his fault
He’s out of his depth he’s a good championship player in my opinion
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FFS JPB
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McGinn looks fat, again.
And he still can't head a ball
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Philogene is so indeciseive on the ball. He alwyas seems in four minds over what to do.
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Philogene off, no one on please
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We look badly coached at the moment.
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One annoying thing is that their defence is also an accident waiting to happen. We haven't taken advantage.
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the outball pass always to someone with an opponent right up his chuff, too tight to turn
they're pressing the shit out of us
We dont seem to have a clue to beat a press any more
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make changes Emery please
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make changes Emery please
10 Minutes ago
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fofana going off, happy with that. he's done a job on watkins today
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100% back pass
Some of you just deluded
Torres controls the ball with his foot Martinez picks it up, it’s as plain as day
It’s a fuck up that’s all there is to it
I'm not deluded.
That's exactly what a deluded person would write. Makes you think.
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Did it even go backwards?
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make changes Emery please
10 Minutes ago
dont wait for 3 0
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fofana going off, happy with that. he's done a job on watkins today
Not that good a job Watkins has had 3/4 golden chances
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The standard Matty Cash booking.
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I mean changes we could lose 4 or 5 but I dont care , players need to know this is not good enough.
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Ooh,the live cam from Anfield.
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Ross is on for Kamara
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the best player comes off
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Shame to see the end of one of our better players, although bringing on Barkley certainly makes sense
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How you leaving philiogene on ??
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ManUre are 4-0 up against Everton. Just thought you might like to know.
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I don't understand the lack of changes here, and with bouba going off there's even less protection now
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Looks at latest scores. Was it really only six months ago when we were laughing at Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea?
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He’s still getting back up to fitness it makes sense. The lack of other subs does not.
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I know neither can be helped, but the two changes we've made being for our best two players doesn't scream exciting comeback.
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Best player off. Great.
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We look like we would be happy to lose with the present score.
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fofana going off, happy with that. he's done a job on watkins today
not when he missed the sitter
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JUST FUCKING LAUNCH IT!!! Plying around at the back when we are not good enough to do it.
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the best player comes off
TBF the game is probably lost now and we need to manage his minutes so think that's logical to get him right for Brentford.
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Digne is dead now.
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Great play olsen 🙄🙄🙄
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ManUre are 4-0 up against Everton. Just thought you might like to know.
Not remotely bothered.Anyway,there's an Other Games thread fyi
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Our best player now has to come off. Terrific.
Come on Barkley we need a miracle from you today.
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Presumably fitness reasons, but Kamara's been the only player who didn't look like an idiot today.
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If offered now, I’d take 3 points from our next two matches
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Looks at latest scores. Was it really only six months ago when we were laughing at Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea?
Did people think it was going to last forever? These sides were spending 100ms + again this summer while we were having to sell key parts of our game.
Fulham just got back to 1-1 at Spurs so hopefully they can hold them.
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Make it stop. This is so so bad.
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Bailey and Duran coming on. And Leon has a new dread hairdo. Hopefully the start of better form.
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Digne is dead now.
Looks ok now
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duran and bailey
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Ooh,the live cam from Anfield.
Is it the traditional shot of a bunch of bored looking blokes, wearing headphones, getting off a coach and ignoring the hopeful looking kids waiting for autographs?
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jackson just done a ollie
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Now Konsa has become a clown!
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konsa ffs
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We are all over the place that should have been 3-0 fuck sakes ezri
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Incredibly shit from Konsa, well done Olsen.
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Philogene and Roger’s off Bailey and Duran on.
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65 minutes for Philogene, far too many. Opened the midfield up to play two up top.
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I wouldnt even pay Rogers and Jden for that . no idea why he started rogers
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Hate to say it but Chelsea are on their uppers at the moment so most sides will be luckly to get a result off them. We will be ok and in the mix for a European spot again i'm sure.....Enjoy the ride and just think back to how it used to be
Come on now Villa with the subs on........
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The players seem like they are suffering from ‘tactical fatigue’ and need to play more naturally. There doesn’t seem to be any flow to our game anymore.
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65 minutes for Philogene, far too many. Opened the midfield up to play two up top.
Philiogene needs to be moved on in janaury
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Hate to say it but Chelsea are on their uppers at the moment so most sides will be luckly to get a result off them. We will be ok and in the mix for a European spot again i'm sure.....Enjoy the ride and just think back to how it used to be
Come on now Villa with the subs on........
Uppers isn't that though
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I wouldnt even pay Rogers and Jden for that . no idea why he started rogers
What has Emi done to mean he's constantly overlooked? Taken a dump in Uni's wastepaper bin?
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The players seem like they are suffering from ‘tactical fatigue’ and need to play more naturally. There doesn’t seem to be any flow to our game anymore.
This is it
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65 minutes for Philogene, far too many. Opened the midfield up to play two up top.
Philiogene needs to be moved on in janaury
Along with a few others
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Christ, not taken Barkley to get up to speed.
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Enjoy the ride and just think back to how it used to be
Come on now Villa with the subs on........
Problem is we don’t have to think back to how it used to be when they’re reminding us so often of late.
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If we could get Viktor Gyökeres or Liam Delap, I would sell Watkins.
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Barkley getting himself into the vibes then
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We don't have to think back to how bad it was, we're getting a good look at it live
(I say that, I turned off in a huff at 2-0 so I'm not seeing it)
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65 minutes for Philogene, far too many. Opened the midfield up to play two up top.
Philiogene needs to be moved on in janaury
someone like Leicester
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Pathetic from Barkley
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Looks at latest scores. Was it really only six months ago when we were laughing at Spurs, Man Utd and Chelsea?
Did people think it was going to last forever? These sides were spending 100ms + again this summer while we were having to sell key parts of our game.
Fulham just got back to 1-1 at Spurs so hopefully they can hold them.
Just looked at the table and not many of those teams above us spent £100m+. Brighton didn't, Nor did Brentford or Forest. Even Liverpool spent next to nothing. They've all been far more consistent so far than we have.
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65 minutes for Philogene, far too many. Opened the midfield up to play two up top.
Philiogene needs to be moved on in janaury
How many times do you want to say the same thing, honestly we get it.
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If a big offer comes in for duran we have to sell. This team seriously needs a complete rebuild
Durans class but he is only one thats bringing bog money in
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I'd forgotten what this felt like lol
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If we could get Viktor Gyökeres or Liam Delap, I would sell Watkins.
If its the last time to get big money I actually would.
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Barkley just gave it away twice in five seconds. You'd think he was doing it deliberately, FFS.
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Gonna get a point here :)
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This is a shame bad as anything Gerrard dished up
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good effort JD
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Gonna get a point here :)
Never in a billion years.
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Fuck me, we can't even take a corner without giving it away for a goal kick.
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Barkley just gave it away twice in five seconds. You'd think he was doing it deliberately, FFS.
This is what I mean about underlying problems - there are far too many good players playing badly for it just to be about individual form. I don’t know, but I do wonder if Unai has got too focussed in on detail and trying tweaks rather than looking at it from a higher level.
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Madueke is a good player.His hair band is cringey though
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Fuck me, we can't even take a corner without giving it away for a goal kick.
We can, but the linesman is a cretin
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Gonna get a point here :)
We’re not going to score, let alone threaten a point.
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If anyone is under no illusions how shit we are manure are now above us in the table
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Emery doing an impression of Gerard.
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If anyone is under no illusions how shit we are manure are now above us in the table
You got a semi over them or something
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ffs barkley
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I can't blame barkley there. no one is running to give him a short option
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Wednesday is must win. We need Mings back and Torres dropped
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If anyone is under no illusions how shit we are manure are now above us in the table
You got a semi over them or something
Hahahaha yes, thank you
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might as well get buendia on for watkins
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Attacking set up with Rogers isn't working and the defensive set up with being piss easy to play through and evryone half asleep making constant cock ups needs work.
Back to the drawing board. This isn't a blip, the problems have persisted for too long now. We need a change in set up.
A summers work where we've only got Onana in as well has really bitten us in the arse.
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If anyone is under no illusions how shit we are manure are now above us in the table
You got a semi over them or something
No just highlighting that we are now below them thats how shit we are as i said in my post.
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This isn't very good at all, is it?
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Wednesday is must win. We need Mings back and Torres dropped
Yes it’s all on Torres, course it is.
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Falling down the table fast , now 12th
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As is so often the case, we are the ones who need to chase the game but it's our goal under siege.
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wheres Maatsen too
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I’ve got a feeling that Brentford will be a much tougher nut to crack than Chelsea, who seem to be playing well within themselves.
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If anyone is under no illusions how shit we are manure are now above us in the table
You got a semi over them or something
Hahahaha yes, thank you
You got a semi over united ? 😂😂😂
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Bailey - what is the point??!
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oh Leon piss poor
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Bailey just shoot the ball mate
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Most Bailey moment imaginable.
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Falling down the table fast , now 12th
Blimey, whatever's wrong needs to be fixed, fast.
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The defender knows exactly where Bailey's going to go, every time.
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Bailey 2.0 running straight into defenders ala 2021
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No way will we beat Brentford on this showing.... Wissa, Mbeumo....they score 2 or 3 a week.
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Why aren't we having a go even?
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well barkley has been as bad as the others
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Blimey, Barkley's having a mare.
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Wednesday is must win. We need Mings back and Torres dropped
Yes it’s all on Torres, course it is.
it's not all on Torres, of course, but he is rather poor at the moment.
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The defender knows exactly where Bailey's going to go, every time.
so does stevie wonder
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We must have the worst two wide players in the league.
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well barkley has been as bad as the others
Ridiculous signing in reality
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Bailey 2.0 running straight into defenders ala 2021
Or when he gets the chance to cross hits the first man.
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We will be lucky to finish top of we continue to play this pathetically
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Yeah but who isn’t poor of late?
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Bailey has had a deeply, deeply poor game.
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Fuck this. Turning this shit off.
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Great goal but poor defending yet again.
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now the sky palmer wanking off week
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3-0 , another 3 goals in The A column . Shambles
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Well this isn't a shock but the manner of the defeat is v worrying.
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We will be lucky to finish top of we continue to play this pathetically
United !👏👏👏 United !👏👏👏
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Olsen was statuesque then. As in like a statue .
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Torres, you are to defending what I am to synchronised swimming.
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So many Villa players simply standing still and watching what Chelsea do with the ball. This is about attitude and desire and I see none of it in this side at the moment. Lovely finish from Palmer and that's what good players do but only if you allow them to. Really poor performance all round. We look devoid of any ideas.
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Yeah but who isn’t poor of late?
Agreed but he plays in a position where, when he's bad, he's very bad.
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Bad stuff. Feels like we’re back to square one.
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Had enough of this shit
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Olsen was statuesque then. As in like a statue .
Not even rubber man was saving that
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As bad as we’ve been, they looked fragile. We just showed no energy or intent whatsoever.
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Reminiscent of the final Gerrard game this
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Oh dear , this is a very worrying display.
This is Lambert level of performance, we go again.
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So many Villa players simply standing still and watching what Chelsea do with the ball. This is about attitude and desire and I see none of it in this side at the moment. Lovely finish from Palmer and that's what good players do but only if you allow them to. Really poor performance all round. We look devoid of any ideas.
True
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Fuck this. I’m off to watch a bunch of cars go around in circles.
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Huge changes needed.
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We will be lucky to finish top of we continue to play this pathetically
United !👏👏👏 United !👏👏👏
You got a semi for united?
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Fuck this. I’m off to watch a bunch of cars go around in circles.
Stourbridge ring road?
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dont let felix score now to rub it in
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Emery out.
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We were never in the game. It was over at 6 minutes in.
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Torres, you are to defending what I am to synchronised swimming.
Haha! Don't put yourself down, Risso.
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We will be lucky to finish top of we continue to play this pathetically
United !👏👏👏 United !👏👏👏
That's a bit uncalled for
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Forget the "games without a win" run, we've actually now won 1 in last eight league games. W1 D4 L 3
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Fuck this. I’m off to watch a bunch of cars go around in circles.
Instead of a bunch of players doing the same?
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We were never in the game. It was over at 6 minutes in.
Because he put a bloke in who looks like he is no where near this level, said bloke bottles it and the game is gone.
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Nearly 4 there.
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Fuck this. I’m off to watch a bunch of cars go around in circles.
Stourbridge ring road?
Coventry.
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Emery out.
We did it!
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Torres mugged again, this time by that waster Felix
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ffs nearly 4
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That was a red card tackle.
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Is it safe to call it a shambles yet?
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Get Torres out of this team FFS
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Forget the "games without a win" run, we've actually now won 1 in last eight league games. W1 D4 L 3
Form guide since January won’t look great either
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We are too slow and weak in the challenges.
Out muscled.
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Is it safe to call it a shambles yet?
That started after 6 mins.
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Torres, you are to defending what I am to synchronised swimming.
Pretentious rubbish!
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Duran needs to be given some starts, things need a shake up here. Maybe even give a couple of the u21s a shot? How much worse can it be? Some of these players need to know they can be dropped.
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We've conceded 2 or more 22 times in 2024. Start with the foundations. We are set up terribly. 22 fucking times .
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There's McGinn
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2024 has been a great year apparently
It's been terrible. A couple good individual games but other all shit compared to 2023
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a few need dropping in week . watkins and rogers and torres for a start .
hopefully Onana fit and not sure where JJ is at.
dont want to see jaden even on the bench after today .
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Steve cooper is available
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We've conceded 2 or more 22 times in 2024. Start with the foundations. We are set up terribly. 22 fucking times .
Yep.
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One month until an odd-numbered year. Emery's Villa look unbeatable in one of those.
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2024 has been a great year apparently
It's been terrible. A couple good individual games but other all shit compared to 2023
Have a day off from trolling will you, it is possible to illustrate points with baiting people. It's so boring
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At least Duran giving effort.
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McGinn, fucking hell. Abysmal.
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Mings needs a run next to Konsa now and Duran a chance up front. We’ve missed too many chances all season.
Onana sitting next to Kamara in front of the back 4 wouldn’t be a bad idea either.
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Steve cooper is available
Graham Potter
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unbelieveable Palmer gets man of the match! totally anonymous apart from his goal where everyone stood off and the keeper didnt move!
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2024 has been a great year apparently
It's been terrible. A couple good individual games but other all shit compared to 2023
Have a day off from trolling will you, it is possible to illustrate points with baiting people. It's so boring
Hasn’t said much wrong there that I can see.
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Steve cooper is available
Steve Cooper is ALWAYS available.
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2024 has been a great year apparently
It's been terrible. A couple good individual games but other all shit compared to 2023
Have a day off from trolling will you, it is possible to illustrate points with baiting people. It's so boring
Im not baiting anyone. I havent named anyone just stating that 2024 is statistically worse than 2023.
Stop trying to cause trouble
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Steve cooper is available
Graham Potter
😂
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unbelieveable Palmer gets man of the match! totally anonymous apart from his goal where everyone stood off and the keeper didnt move!
Who were you expecting, Philogene?
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What’s the point dropping any of them.
None of the replacements seem upto the job.
The is a malaise running through the squad.
It all started with that fucking Ipswich result.
I think too many of the squad believe the hype and think ‘job done’ for qualifying for the CL.
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unbelieveable Palmer gets man of the match! totally anonymous apart from his goal where everyone stood off and the keeper didnt move!
Who were you expecting, Philogene?
Poo Torres
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Another steaming pile of dog shite performance - god this is awful. We have gone backwards as a club.
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Mings needs a run next to Konsa now and Duran a chance up front. We’ve missed too many chances all season.
Onana sitting next to Kamara in front of the back 4 wouldn’t be a bad idea either.
Onana seems to be an expensive sick note and, even when fit, can't last more than 45 mins it seems.
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we re getting annihilated on usa peacock. not suprised
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Another steaming pile of dog shite performance - god this is awful. We have gone backwards as a club.
On and off the field
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Another steaming pile of dog shite performance - god this is awful. We have gone backwards as a club.
Shame United bagged Amorim
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Good luck with your ridiculous pricing now Heck you bellend
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we re getting annihilated on usa peacock. not suprised
Robbie Mustoe saying it as it is - not good enough and the players just walking around disinterested.
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Getting panned because it was a half arsed pike of cack with players who seem to have forgotten this is their fucking job
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Another steaming pile of dog shite performance - god this is awful. We have gone backwards as a club.
On and off the field
Its really worrying mate. Anyone saying they are not worried is kidding themselves
This is a crisis. What is it one win in 9 now?
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Good luck with your ridiculous pricing now Heck you bellend
His job is getting tougher every week
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All those teams we'd started to beat regularly like Spurs and Chelsea but it feels like normal business resumed now. What an underwhelming first few months. The club is only interested in hospitality and fleecing the fans while on the pitch we look completely devoid of ideas and energy again. I've missed this misery.
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Olsen was statuesque then. As in like a statue .
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Olsen was not in anyway at fault for the goal ,
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we re getting annihilated on usa peacock. not suprised
Robbie Mustoe saying as it’s - not good enough and the players just walking around disinterested.
Yep, no urgency, no energy, no fight.
Less video analysis Unai, more motivating.
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Time to keep calm and back the club. Emery will sort this and it’s nothing that a couple of wins won’t sort starting with Brentford.
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Time to keep calm and back the club. Emery will sort this and it’s nothing that a couple of wins won’t sort starting with Brentford.
In Unai I trust - UTV.
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They were superior all over the pitch. Quicker sharper and wanted it more . I am not sure if it is fatigue or belief ? We are so easy to play against at the moment . Ho hum. off to kick the dog