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Title: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 22, 2024, 01:55:10 PM
We go again. Tuesday night at 8pm we enter the league cup at the 3rd round stage. I expect to see Unai change things up but we still should have enough to see the job done against the 9th placed team in league one.

I’ll got 3-0 Villa - Duran 2, Barkley

Team prediction

Gauci
Ned
Maatsen
Carlos
Bogarde
Leon
Barkley
Buendia
Tielemans
Rogers
Duran

Strong bench and maybe even a cheeky Mings sighting
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: VillaTim on September 22, 2024, 01:57:47 PM
Tielemans and Rogers both need a rest
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 22, 2024, 01:59:57 PM
There are plenty of player that could do with a rest. He’s not going to make 11 changes. But it’s also only our 7th game of the season.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Risso on September 22, 2024, 02:00:35 PM
I'd go:

Martinez

Kosta Bogarde Torres Maatsen

Bailey Barkley Onana Ramsey

      Duran  Buendia

Hopefully JPB is fit to get some sort of a run out, and be good to maybe give Young some minutes as well if we're comfortably winning.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: VillaTim on September 22, 2024, 02:10:18 PM
---- Gauchi ----------

Ned Bogarde Swinkels Maatsen

Bailey Barkley Philogene Young

      Duran  Buendia
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Legion on September 22, 2024, 02:11:22 PM
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Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 22, 2024, 02:16:14 PM
Hopefully one or two players are fit enough to come back into contention like JPB and Cash. It would be great to see them involved if possible.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on September 22, 2024, 02:23:58 PM
They're in a good run of form themselves. We'll probably rest a few players:

Gauci
Nedeljkovic Costa Pau Maatsen
Jaden Barkley Onana Ramsey
Buendia
Duran
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 22, 2024, 02:25:43 PM
1-3. Panda x2, Buendia.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 22, 2024, 02:37:54 PM
Tielemans and Rogers both need a rest
Agree. I hope not to see them or Torres, Watkins
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 22, 2024, 02:55:33 PM
I'd go with Risso's line-up except I'd put put Gauci in goal. That way we rest Emi, Konsa, Youri, Rogers and Ollie.

Just need to win in 90 minutes and see where the draw takes us.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Footy-Vill on September 22, 2024, 03:28:27 PM
I'd go with Risso's line-up except I'd put put Gauci in goal. That way we rest Emi, Konsa, Youri, Rogers and Ollie.

Just need to win in 90 minutes and see where the draw takes us.

Some insight last season made 5 changes from the league game at Chelsea before to the 1-2 defeat at home to Everton in league cup.
Olsen started in goal , McGinn left back and Duran was the lone striker!

So can expect changes and agree put Gauci in goal.
Olsen was league cup keeper last season so expect Gauci to get some game time here
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Footy-Vill on September 22, 2024, 03:32:50 PM
Gauci
Nedeljković Bogarde Swinkels Maatsen
K.Young Barkley Ramsey Buendia
Duran Bailey
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: andyh on September 22, 2024, 03:36:37 PM
No way Torres starts.
Ned, Carlos, Bogarde , Maatsen as the back 4 I reckon.

Gauci
Ned Carlos Bogarde Maatsen
Philogene Barkely JJ buendia
Duran Bailey

Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: john2710 on September 22, 2024, 03:59:25 PM
Gauci
Ned Carlos Swinkles Maatsen
Barkley Bogarde
Bailey Buendia Philogene
Duran

If Philogene isn't available it'll be Rogers or JJ.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Mellin on September 22, 2024, 05:52:35 PM
Don't start any of the 11. Result is what it is. Bigger fish to fry.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: London Villan on September 22, 2024, 06:00:47 PM
Whats the worst team we could pick?

Gauci

Kosta
Bogarde
Swinkles
Maatsen

Philogene
Barkley
Buendia
Young
JJ?

Duran


Even that should be enough.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: exigo on September 22, 2024, 07:11:49 PM
Whats the worst team we could pick?

Gauci

Kosta
Bogarde
Swinkles
Maatsen

Philogene
Barkley
Buendia
Young
JJ?

Duran


Even that should be enough.

Well, Olsen would be worse than Gauci, so, that.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: VillaTim on September 22, 2024, 07:21:33 PM
Whats the worst team we could pick?

can we not just play the full U21 team
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: London Villan on September 22, 2024, 07:22:27 PM
Olsen hasn’t been in a squad yet has he?

Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: VillaTim on September 22, 2024, 07:23:03 PM
That Rory Wilson deserves a run too
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: rob_bridge on September 22, 2024, 08:44:16 PM
---- Gauchi ----------

Ned Bogarde Swinkels Maatsen

Bailey Barkley Philogene Young

      Duran  Buendia

Assume Buendia would be a little deeper.

I'd play Carlos with Bogarde.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Demitri_C on September 22, 2024, 08:45:40 PM
Ill be missing this as forgot it was in and booked to go watch beetlejuice

Hoping maatsen and duran both get starts
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Grande Pablo on September 22, 2024, 09:04:24 PM
3-8 the repeat.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Mister E on September 22, 2024, 09:30:02 PM
Gauci
Ned Carlos Bogarde Maatsen
Philogene Barkely JJ buendia
Duran Bailey
Yup, although Philo instead of Bailey, perhaps.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: VillaTim on September 22, 2024, 09:41:39 PM
Mings and Kamara on the bench for a few minutes late on would be nice
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: AV84 on September 22, 2024, 11:32:45 PM
The risk with starting a strong team is that we don't get it done early, and everyone ends up playing way longer than planned. This happened at least once in Europe last season. The risk with starting a "weak" team is that we don't get it done at all.

On paper we should be able to make a lot of changes and still win comfortably, but on paper we shouldn't have been losing 0-2 to Everton, and we shouldn't have been losing 0-1 to Wolves for 70 minutes.

I think Maatsen, Nedeljkovic/Bogarde, Bailey, Barkley, and Duran should start. Assuming we're home and hosed by the hour mark, some of the other starters can be subbed off.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: frank black on September 23, 2024, 06:01:42 AM
Ill be missing this as forgot it was in and booked to go watch beetlejuice


I suspect Unai might make the same mistake. We will probably get through this round, but fully expect us to chuck the next one.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Nev on September 23, 2024, 06:53:46 AM
After almost 2 years we all know where the Managers priorities lie and it isn't the domestic cups, and certainly not the League Cup so expect a scratch team.

I's still love to win this again but it seems churlish to get sniffy about it.

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Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Nelly on September 23, 2024, 07:13:22 AM
Was it not at Wycombe where our subs were playing a game with chewing gum on the bench and Micah Richards got into it with the fans behind the dugout? If so, it'll be nice to go down as a unified and well-oiled Villa team instead and hopefully give a better account of ourselves.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: rob_bridge on September 23, 2024, 07:21:46 AM
Was it not at Wycombe where our subs were playing a game with chewing gum on the bench and Micah Richards got into it with the fans behind the dugout? If so, it'll be nice to go down as a unified and well-oiled Villa team instead and hopefully give a better account of ourselves.

That Cock Richards has a lot to answer for.

We have had some right arseholes over the years at Villa but as Club Captain he takes the biscuit.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Demitri_C on September 23, 2024, 07:28:45 AM
To bw fair to richards hw did come to speak to the fans once where it got heated. I think lescottwas the bigger prick and he is never welcome back here
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Nelly on September 23, 2024, 09:07:02 AM
I hold Richards and Lescott in the same disdain personally. Grim days! As I say, hopefully we can give a much better account of ourselves this time.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: London Villan on September 23, 2024, 09:33:21 AM
The three Brummie amigos - Gabby, Richards and Lescott - all senior professionals, leaching off the club and playing a big role in getting us relegated.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Risso on September 23, 2024, 09:34:42 AM
I hold Richards and Lescott in the same disdain personally. Grim days! As I say, hopefully we can give a much better account of ourselves this time.

Yeah, same here. On that BBC podcast Richards does with Shearer and Lineker, they showed the Father Christmas thing again. I can't think of anything worse than that, not even Hitler.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 23, 2024, 09:42:46 AM
I hold Richards and Lescott in the same disdain personally. Grim days! As I say, hopefully we can give a much better account of ourselves this time.
Same, complete arseholes, Richards is the most annoying person on television.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 23, 2024, 09:45:09 AM
I hold Richards and Lescott in the same disdain personally. Grim days! As I say, hopefully we can give a much better account of ourselves this time.

Yeah, same here. On that BBC podcast Richards does with Shearer and Lineker, they showed the Father Christmas thing again. I can't think of anything worse than that, not even Hitler.

I gave that podcast a whirl a while back and lasted literally less than 30 seconds because that big twat's laugh was getting on my tits.

In terms of making a repetitive, repulsive noise that makes you want to hack your ears off to make it go away, he's worse than Coldplay.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 23, 2024, 10:00:15 AM
That FA cup game at Wycombe was a new low for us. Players couldn’t give a shit, subs pissing about in full view of the Villa fans sitting just behind the dugout, fans giving the players some real stick on the walk from the changing room to the coach - serious anger from the fans towards the team, there’s a few Yow Tube clips of it. The only light relief was Pat’s french mate who came along with us and was hurling abuse in French at Garde from about 10 yards behind the touchline.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Risso on September 23, 2024, 10:03:27 AM
That FA cup game at Wycombe was a new low for us. Players couldn’t give a shit, subs pissing about in full view of the Villa fans sitting just behind the dugout, fans giving the players some real stick on the walk from the changing room to the coach - serious anger from the fans towards the team, there’s a few Yow Tube clips of it. The only light relief was Pat’s french mate who came along with us and was hurling abuse in French at Garde from about 10 yards behind the touchline.

I'm not sure if the below is the footage you're talking about, or if it's Emery at half time against Wolves on Saturday:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zCUabujK11Q?app=desktop
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 23, 2024, 10:11:27 AM
That’s the one - I think it’s the only Villa game where Darren hasn’t asked for a selfie with a player after the game. It was that bad
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: lovejoy on September 23, 2024, 10:20:55 AM
Dont risk any first teamers please. If we lose we lose.
Frankly with the strains on players being a focus these days I think this cup needs a revamp, U21s and similar.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 23, 2024, 11:29:34 AM
Dont risk any first teamers please. If we lose we lose.
Frankly with the strains on players being a focus these days I think this cup needs a revamp, U21s and similar.

That sounds like an utterly dreadful idea, the sort of thing arrogant Man U fans come out with.

This is our best chance of winning a cup, and has been a crucial part of our history. I've no wish to turn it into a new version of the Windscreens Shield. We should be able to rest a few and still get through, though.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 23, 2024, 11:48:25 AM
Anyway, I would go with something like:

Gauci

Nedeljković
Bogarde
Carlos
Maatsen

Barkley
Onana

Buendia
Broggio
K Young

Duran

That's assuming that none of Philogene, Cash, Kamara or Mings are available. Pick a strong bench in case we are struggling, including Martinez in case it goes to penalties.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: LeeS on September 23, 2024, 12:00:30 PM
Oh I would love to see Emi shithousing the Wycombe penalty takers. I’d almost take the draw now just for that prospect.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Garyth on September 23, 2024, 12:04:31 PM
Oh I would love to see Emi shithousing the Wycombe penalty takers. I’d almost take the draw now just for that prospect.

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Dogtanian on September 23, 2024, 12:07:19 PM
Is there extra time or just pens?

I want it wrapped up in normal time with a clinical performance so I can get home at an almost respectable hour!
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 23, 2024, 12:08:09 PM
Is there extra time or just pens?

I want it wrapped up in normal time with a clinical performance so I can get home at an almost respectable hour!

Straight to pens after 90 mins
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Dogtanian on September 23, 2024, 12:10:27 PM
Cheers.

That suits me!
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: eamonn on September 23, 2024, 01:00:07 PM
I hold Richards and Lescott in the same disdain personally. Grim days! As I say, hopefully we can give a much better account of ourselves this time.

Yeah, same here. On that BBC podcast Richards does with Shearer and Lineker, they showed the Father Christmas thing again. I can't think of anything worse than that, not even Hitler.

What did he have to say about it?
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 23, 2024, 01:13:15 PM
I am not advocating we go full strength but some on here are almost advocating it's better we lose as the league cup is the 4th priority.
If you think losing will improve us having a REAL chance of lifting the European Cup, Premier League or FA Cup this season then I have no argument.
If it is because it may impact where we finish in the league or how deep we go in other competitions (with the consequent financial effects) then go and tell it to Heck.
In football, for most fans at least, the bottom line is still a trophy.

 
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 23, 2024, 01:17:28 PM
I hold Richards and Lescott in the same disdain personally. Grim days! As I say, hopefully we can give a much better account of ourselves this time.

Yeah, same here. On that BBC podcast Richards does with Shearer and Lineker, they showed the Father Christmas thing again. I can't think of anything worse than that, not even Hitler.

What did he have to say about it?

Rumours he was supposed to have been a bit of an Everton fan.
Anyway, he didn't have a lot to say after 1945.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/england/liverpool/user_1_article_8.shtml
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: rob_bridge on September 23, 2024, 01:59:42 PM
I am not advocating we go full strength but some on here are almost advocating it's better we lose as the league cup is the 4th priority.
If you think losing will improve us having a REAL chance of lifting the European Cup, Premier League or FA Cup this season then I have no argument.
If it is because it may impact where we finish in the league or how deep we go in other competitions (with the consequent financial effects) then go and tell it to Heck.
In football, for most fans at least, the bottom line is still a trophy.

I want us to win every game.

Tomorrow I want to see those who don't start regularly to start. For a multitude of positive reasons. It will give them game time, it will mean Emery and co can see some of them in a competitive game for 90 mins,  it will mean some big players have more recovery time before 3 games in 7 days starting Sunday.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Nelly on September 23, 2024, 02:35:47 PM
The League Cup isn't that many extra games is it? I know it's not the most glamorous trophy but I'd be thrilled if we won. In my life two League Cups is all we've won. I'll always be grateful for it.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: TaxDodger on September 23, 2024, 02:52:25 PM
Assuming we get through Wycombe tomorrow we'll be one game away from a Quarter Final, so I'd definitely like us to take this vaguely seriously.

I'd start Emi over Gauci for instance.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Chris Smith on September 23, 2024, 03:13:28 PM
Assuming we get through Wycombe tomorrow we'll be one game away from a Quarter Final, so I'd definitely like us to take this vaguely seriously.

I'd start Emi over Gauci for instance.


I see your point but there may come a time when we need to call on Gauci if Emi gets injured so far better for him to be given time on the pitch in a meaningful game ahead of that.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 23, 2024, 03:16:50 PM
Gauci, Ned, Carlos, Pau (first half and see how it's going), Maatsen, Bogarde, Barkley, Ramsey, Buendia, Duran, Bailey.
Should be more than enough to win.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: LeeS on September 23, 2024, 03:23:03 PM
Assuming we get through Wycombe tomorrow we'll be one game away from a Quarter Final, so I'd definitely like us to take this vaguely seriously.

I'd start Emi over Gauci for instance.


I see your point but there may come a time when we need to call on Gauci if Emi gets injured so far better for him to be given time on the pitch in a meaningful game ahead of that.

I agree. And the same goes for others who aren’t first choice right now. We also need to guard against injuries to pivotal players. I’d change most of them and put trust in the squad. 
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Luffbralion on September 23, 2024, 03:25:04 PM
Was it not at Wycombe where our subs were playing a game with chewing gum on the bench and Micah Richards got into it with the fans behind the dugout? If so, it'll be nice to go down as a unified and well-oiled Villa team instead and hopefully give a better account of ourselves.

That Cock Richards has a lot to answer for.

We have had some right arseholes over the years at Villa but as Club Captain he takes the biscuit.

I was at that game. Like many fans I went along expecting, in a season of utter misery, at least to see a victory. What I got was another abject performance and a display of arrogance and contempt from so-called senior professionals.
I loathe how Richards regularly brings up his "antics" at Villa Park (especially that relegation season) with Gary Lineker. It was a shameful episode.
To think he is now listed on the lion in the new club shop as a captain of our illustrious club. I'm still seething.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: eamonn on September 23, 2024, 04:24:13 PM
Man City play their cup game tomorrow too which means they'll only have had two sleeps since their last game. Three sleeps is the usual minimum between games. Everyone is bullying City just now, it seems horribly unfair.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: caster troy on September 23, 2024, 05:45:33 PM
I think Unai would have made more changes to the starting XI for Wolves if we didn't have this game soon after. I'm hoping for and expecting pretty much the full 'B' team for this one.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 23, 2024, 06:01:17 PM
Yeah, same here. On that BBC podcast Richards does with Shearer and Lineker, they showed the Father Christmas thing again. I can't think of anything worse than that, not even Hitler.

What did he have to say about it?

Rumours he was supposed to have been a bit of an Everton fan.
Anyway, he didn't have a lot to say after 1945.

Like Everton, he was prone to losing from a winning position.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Demitri_C on September 23, 2024, 06:30:33 PM
Id love to see tyrone or kamara on bench foe this but i doubt it will happen
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Villa Lew on September 23, 2024, 07:47:02 PM
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Is this the first time, you've gone for a Villa win Legion or is it a typo?
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Martyn Smith on September 23, 2024, 07:57:08 PM
Whats the worst team we could pick?

Gauci

Kosta
Bogarde
Swinkles
Maatsen

Philogene
Barkley
Buendia
Young
JJ?

Duran


Even that should be enough.

Well, Olsen would be worse than Gauci, so, that.

What's happening with him? I can't imagine he's happy to not be even making the bench.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Border villan on September 23, 2024, 07:57:45 PM
Was injured.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: martin o`who?? on September 23, 2024, 08:19:06 PM
Man City play their cup game tomorrow too which means they'll only have had two sleeps since their last game. Three sleeps is the usual minimum between games. Everyone is bullying City just now, it seems horribly unfair.
Gutted for em....
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: levico on September 23, 2024, 08:21:37 PM
This is one competition too many for us this season. Whatever happens I hope it’s dignified.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on September 23, 2024, 08:22:31 PM
Yeah, same here. On that BBC podcast Richards does with Shearer and Lineker, they showed the Father Christmas thing again. I can't think of anything worse than that, not even Hitler.

What did he have to say about it?

Rumours he was supposed to have been a bit of an Everton fan.
Anyway, he didn't have a lot to say after 1945.

Like Everton, he was prone to losing from a winning position.

Very good
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Drummond on September 23, 2024, 08:30:44 PM
Olsen hasn’t been in a squad yet has he?

I'm sure I read that he's out with a head injury. If true it must be pretty bad to be out that long.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: algy on September 23, 2024, 08:41:53 PM
We’re going to have to rotate our squad with the number of games we’ll be playing this season. This is one of those games where we should play the least number of first team starters possible
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: DB on September 23, 2024, 09:52:02 PM
Hoping for a couple of surprises in the squad….
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 23, 2024, 10:08:38 PM
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Aston Villa manager Unai Emery has conceded the Carabao Cup is low among his priorities this season - but insists his side "are going to compete" in the tournament.

Villa face League One side Wycombe in the third round on Tuesday (20:00 BST).

"It is clear the priority is the Premier League," said Emery. "Thirty eight matches [and] through it we have to get our first objective - try to be in the top seven and be consistent in playing in Europe.

"The second most difficult is the Champions League and then we have to try to find something important in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.

"The FA Cup is maybe more important than the Carabao Cup, but the Carabao Cup is a trophy and we are going to compete.

"Of course I am going to change some players but I am going to prepare a plan to win and to get a good way in this competition. [That's] in case we can get through three matches and get an opportunity to fight for a trophy."
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Matt C on September 24, 2024, 01:42:01 AM
Olsen hasn’t been in a squad yet has he?

I'm sure I read that he's out with a head injury. If true it must be pretty bad to be out that long.

Didn’t he get a concussion injury in a pre-season game? I don’t think I’ve seen his name around the squad since.
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Demitri_C on September 24, 2024, 06:49:55 AM
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Aston Villa manager Unai Emery has conceded the Carabao Cup is low among his priorities this season - but insists his side "are going to compete" in the tournament.

Villa face League One side Wycombe in the third round on Tuesday (20:00 BST).

"It is clear the priority is the Premier League," said Emery. "Thirty eight matches [and] through it we have to get our first objective - try to be in the top seven and be consistent in playing in Europe.

"The second most difficult is the Champions League and then we have to try to find something important in the FA Cup and Carabao Cup.

"The FA Cup is maybe more important than the Carabao Cup, but the Carabao Cup is a trophy and we are going to compete.

"Of course I am going to change some players but I am going to prepare a plan to win and to get a good way in this competition. [That's] in case we can get through three matches and get an opportunity to fight for a trophy."

Think that is completely understandable tbh

I expect to see gauchi bogarde duran maatsen buendia in a host of changes
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: AV84 on September 24, 2024, 06:59:23 AM
Olsen hasn’t been in a squad yet has he?

I'm sure I read that he's out with a head injury. If true it must be pretty bad to be out that long.

Didn’t he get a concussion injury in a pre-season game? I don’t think I’ve seen his name around the squad since.

He was in the most recent training pics I was looking at.
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Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2024, 07:43:28 AM
I can’t see Youri playing tonight but Emi Junior will do a good job instead. Shame Jaden P is not available as this would have been a good run out for him.
Gauci,
Nedeljkovic, Carlos, Bogarde, Maatsen
Buendia, Ramsey, Barkley, Young
Durán, mystery player
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Post by: Dogtanian on September 24, 2024, 07:51:25 AM
More excited for tonight than I should be, especially as I was pissed off we didn't get a nice home draw when the odds were in our favour.
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Post by: Nii Lamptey on September 24, 2024, 09:35:43 AM
As much as I hate to say it, put out the stiffs tonight - Sacrifice this cup for the greater good.

Need all the downtime we can get between now and Xmas (*Unai included). Keep the players fresh for a 2025 push for silverware, INCLUDING that damn illusive FA Cup!
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Post by: Dogtanian on September 24, 2024, 09:36:36 AM
The Greater Good.
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Post by: Dave on September 24, 2024, 09:43:31 AM
As much as I hate to say it, put out the stiffs tonight - Sacrifice this cup for the greater good.

I expect that the likes of Maatsen, Barkley, Buendia, Ramsey, Duran etc are desperate to get some minutes under their belt. And all of them would have walked into the team that won a two-legged semi-final in this cup a few years ago.

We don't need to sacrifice anything.
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Post by: dicedlam on September 24, 2024, 09:47:57 AM
Not that bothered either way with this cup. I think the side below is more than capable of winning at Wycombe.

                 Gauci
Nedeljkovic Carlos Swinkels Maatsen
           Bogarde Barkley
      Young Buendia Ramsey
                 Duran
Title: Re: Wycombe vs Aston Villa pre match thread LC R3
Post by: Dogtanian on September 24, 2024, 09:49:17 AM
We have previous in unleashing a Colombian striker on this lot.
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Post by: Scratchins on September 24, 2024, 09:53:48 AM
I have a happy memory of being 3-1 down at half time with their announcement of ticket sales for the next round. We then went on to score 7 in the second half.
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Post by: trinityoap on September 24, 2024, 09:59:47 AM
Not sure which natives were more restless that night, us at half time or them at the end
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Post by: Ads on September 24, 2024, 10:40:49 AM
Always maintain that nobody was leaving at half time, people were instead going to the bar which was to the right as you look at the pitch.
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Post by: lovejoy on September 24, 2024, 11:14:24 AM
Dont risk any first teamers please. If we lose we lose.
Frankly with the strains on players being a focus these days I think this cup needs a revamp, U21s and similar.

That sounds like an utterly dreadful idea, the sort of thing arrogant Man U fans come out with.

This is our best chance of winning a cup, and has been a crucial part of our history. I've no wish to turn it into a new version of the Windscreens Shield. We should be able to rest a few and still get through, though.

Fair enough, personally for me the bigger picture is champions league and premier league and our squad doesn't have the depth to fight on 4 fronts, even if we did win this cup in 1996 and we miss out on the £100,000 prize money. I don't think this is arrogant at all.
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Post by: Ads on September 24, 2024, 11:15:52 AM
How weak a team can we actually field these days?

To be able to bring on Bailey, Barkley, Maatsen, Duran and Buendia is hilarious. Especially knowing there's a Mings and a Kamara who aren't yet in the squad.
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Post by: Demitri_C on September 24, 2024, 11:21:52 AM
How weak a team can we actually field these days?

To be able to bring on Bailey, Barkley, Maatsen, Duran and Buendia is hilarious. Especially knowing there's a Mings and a Kamara who aren't yet in the squad.

And if Philogene was fit im sure he would be starting this too
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Post by: OCD on September 24, 2024, 12:41:10 PM
-------------------------Gauci

Nedeljkovic----Bogarde----Swinkels----Maatsen

-----------------Kamara----Barkley

------------------Young-----Buendia

-----------------Duran-----Wilson

Hoping to get 45 minutes out of Kamara then bring Alcock on at half-time.

Also expect Patterson and maybe Broggio to get minutes.
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Post by: john e on September 24, 2024, 12:55:50 PM
How weak a team can we actually field these days?

To be able to bring on Bailey, Barkley, Maatsen, Duran and Buendia is hilarious. Especially knowing there's a Mings and a Kamara who aren't yet in the squad.

Agreed that Team will be strong no matter what
I think we’ll see how we go on the first couple of rounds then I think depending on the draws we get if we make it through to the quarters or semis a trophy then becomes something very worthwhile

It’s 28 years and we need to get it off our back


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Post by: Toronto Villa on September 24, 2024, 01:41:14 PM
How weak a team can we actually field these days?

To be able to bring on Bailey, Barkley, Maatsen, Duran and Buendia is hilarious. Especially knowing there's a Mings and a Kamara who aren't yet in the squad.

I was thinking the same the other day. Our “weakened” side isn’t exactly weak anymore. The players will all play to the same system. They all train with the same purpose and intensity. The same manager will be sat in the dug out. It’s not like when Emery first arrived and his methods and disciplines hadn’t yet been embraced throughout the club. The culture is very different now. The players who will play tonight all want major PL and CL minutes. So while this might the 4th ranked in terms of priorities and he will likely rest 7 or 8 players who have featured more regularly, the ones coming in can’t just take the night off. I expect the side he puts out tonight to be very competent and have more than enough ability to see the task through professionally.
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Post by: Risso on September 24, 2024, 01:47:32 PM
The trouble is, however good the players are, the team performance always suffers when there are wholesale changes, as there's usually very little cohesion. We should still have more than enough to win tonight, but the challenge and decision for Emery will come if we win and get drawn against a difficult Premier League side next round.
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Post by: Footy-Vill on September 24, 2024, 02:41:42 PM
Lost to Everton last season  with several changes including resting Watkins and Martinez and Duran playing instead I think it helps playing a league one side this occasion with anticipated changes like Gauci in goal and Duran starting again up front a year on expecting a decent showing and enthusiasm from those playing today.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on September 24, 2024, 02:43:23 PM
Dont risk any first teamers please. If we lose we lose.
Frankly with the strains on players being a focus these days I think this cup needs a revamp, U21s and similar.

That sounds like an utterly dreadful idea, the sort of thing arrogant Man U fans come out with.

This is our best chance of winning a cup, and has been a crucial part of our history. I've no wish to turn it into a new version of the Windscreens Shield. We should be able to rest a few and still get through, though.

Fair enough, personally for me the bigger picture is champions league and premier league and our squad doesn't have the depth to fight on 4 fronts, even if we did win this cup in 1996 and we miss out on the £100,000 prize money. I don't think this is arrogant at all.

No, neither do I. It's clearly the least of our priorities. But saying it should be turned into an under-21 competition because it's an inconvenience was the arrogant bit.
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Post by: django on September 24, 2024, 03:53:33 PM
I can’t remember going into a game like this, expecting lots of changes, but where so many of  the players coming in had a serious claim to maybe becoming first choice. And not because the first team is doing so badly they couldn’t do any worse.

It’s obviously very early in the season but I’m massively impressed by our squad building, especially considering the restrictions we had to deal with.
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Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2024, 03:56:37 PM
As much as I hate to say it, put out the stiffs tonight - Sacrifice this cup for the greater good.

Need all the downtime we can get between now and Xmas (*Unai included). Keep the players fresh for a 2025 push for silverware, INCLUDING that damn illusive FA Cup!
I don't normally associate you with spouting bollocks but you have done so here.
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Post by: Ads on September 24, 2024, 04:04:55 PM
I don't mind us doing a Liverpool and playing a load of nippers. I would rather win the league or the European Cup anyway.
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Post by: olaftab on September 24, 2024, 04:09:57 PM
Or? Aston Villa FC must always compete in every competition to win.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on September 24, 2024, 04:16:32 PM
There is no need to play the nippers though when Maatsen, Buendia, Duran, Barkley, Bailey, Ned, Gauci, Bogarde and Carlos have probably averaged a couple of games or so each so far this season. Ramsey is also still building strength after a long term injury so play them all. It's great to be in the position to pick a team with those players because they could use the game time.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 24, 2024, 04:21:48 PM
Our squad players should be more than enough to see off a side that our U21s could face and that lost at home to sha.
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Post by: Demitri_C on September 24, 2024, 04:30:08 PM
As much as I hate to say it, put out the stiffs tonight - Sacrifice this cup for the greater good.

Need all the downtime we can get between now and Xmas (*Unai included). Keep the players fresh for a 2025 push for silverware, INCLUDING that damn illusive FA Cup!
I don't normally associate you with spouting bollocks but you have done so here.

Relax no need for that.

I dont agree entirely with his opinion but i can see why he feels that way. Even unai has said this is lowest priority
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Post by: Baldy on September 24, 2024, 05:05:54 PM
Unai will have analysed what it will take to beat Wycombe without taking too many unnecessary risks.

I'm expecting 8 or 9 changes from the Wolves game and a strong bench. If need be, we can send the cavalry in.

It is important we keep all squad players feeling 'included, involved and wanted' if we are to progress deep in the major competitions.

0-2 to the villa.
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Post by: Footy-Vill on September 24, 2024, 05:27:02 PM
Whats the Wanderers thing all about ? It must be nomadic
There's Wolverhampton and Bolton which are completely different areas that's also called Wanderers.
Could these clubs not use the term now if they have settled.
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Post by: LeeB on September 24, 2024, 05:37:23 PM
Whats the Wanderers thing all about ? It must be nomadic
There's Wolverhampton and Bolton which are completely different areas that's also called Wanderers.
Could these clubs not use the term now if they have settled.

Would imagine it's because of these chaps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderers_F.C. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderers_F.C.)

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Post by: VillaTim on September 24, 2024, 06:18:07 PM
just leaving London, theres lots of delays on the chiltern line around Banbury / Bicester for anyone heading down by train. Good luck
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Post by: Brazilian Villain on September 24, 2024, 06:19:32 PM
Whats the Wanderers thing all about ? It must be nomadic
There's Wolverhampton and Bolton which are completely different areas that's also called Wanderers.
Could these clubs not use the term now if they have settled.

Would imagine it's because of these chaps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderers_F.C. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderers_F.C.)

Or these. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_Quo_(band)
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Post by: Bad English on September 24, 2024, 06:22:21 PM
Here in France the Carabao Cup is shown on RMC Sports. Subscription Channel. 6 months for €15/mo or one month for €25. Took the latter. FTF!
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Post by: VillaTim on September 24, 2024, 06:24:19 PM
15 min runouts for Mings and Kamara 2nd half
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Post by: Footy-Vill on September 24, 2024, 06:24:58 PM
Whats the Wanderers thing all about ? It must be nomadic
There's Wolverhampton and Bolton which are completely different areas that's also called Wanderers.
Could these clubs not use the term now if they have settled.

Would imagine it's because of these chaps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderers_F.C. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderers_F.C.)

Or these. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_Quo_(band)

Thank You fascinating. Quite a history.
Founder association as well.
Never heard of them as an entity. And interesting nickname Rovers
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Post by: PeterWithe on September 24, 2024, 06:45:53 PM
The FA cup game at Wycombe was one of my favourite ever away days, admittedly the game wasn't much cop.
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Post by: andyh on September 24, 2024, 06:59:42 PM
15 min runouts for Mings and Kamara 2nd half
If only
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Post by: VillaTim on September 24, 2024, 07:04:50 PM
Good team selection , pragmatic and sensible . Big night for Bogarde and Swinkels in the middle
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