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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on June 21, 2024, 03:19:16 PM
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I know he's a young kid but probably deserves his own thread like any new signing. Romano stating that both this deal and Tim is done. Tim medical done, Dobbin today.
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804153699406647397
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So straight from the horse's mouth?
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So straight from the horse's mouth?
Stop horsing around
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I hope he doesn't hoof it upfield.
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Welcome Dobbin, don't be bobbin.
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Reminds me abit of a young Ashley Young
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I feel uneasy about these too-early signing threads.
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I feel uneasy about these too-early signing threads.
And me. the Danny Drinkwater one turning out to be true still gives me nightmares.
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Feels a bit underwhelming, but I expect Unai to turn him into a thoroughbred.
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Never heard of him.
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I hope he's not pony.
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He's 21 & couldn't get a game in the second half of last season at a relegation battling Everton.
But if this is us sticking our two fingers up to the Premier League & fucking over PSR, then good.
I just wish that we had sold them a dud in the same mould as Dobbin.
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Having an ankle injury is why he didn't play much.
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How could this be us fucking over PSR though, how would that work?
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How could this be us fucking over PSR though, how would that work?
We both bank a fee in this year’s accounts for a sale. Whilst a negligible outgoing fee, spread across the length of the contract, is in the outgoings. Good for us and Everton in that regard. I think.
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He's 21 & couldn't get a game in the second half of last season at a relegation battling Everton.
But if this is us sticking our two fingers up to the Premier League & fucking over PSR, then good.
I just wish that we had sold them a dud in the same mould as Dobbin.
I know nothing about him, but that doesn't make him a dud. Tim is not the future of Villa, Unai works with him everyday in training and I'll trust his judgement.
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Look forward to him usurping a current incumbant inside about 4 months and then getting a mid to long term injury.
Go well young man.
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Having an ankle injury is why he didn't play much.
He missed 9 game through injury across the whole season.
He played about 300 minutes over the course of the season in league & cups.
His most minutes came when he had 66 mins against Wolves at the start of the season & then he didn't play again for 9 games. He then played 5 mins across the next four games. Then after 45 minute cameo he had 38 mins across a ten game stretch, then missed 7 games through injury & had 21 mins over the last 3 games.
It looks to me across his season of stats is that he was given a few mins here & there, but whenever he had 45mins or more (which was three times), he then didn't play again for a while.
So apart from that period of 7 games near the end of the season, it wasn't injury why he didn't play loads of minutes.
He's 21 & couldn't get a game in the second half of last season at a relegation battling Everton.
But if this is us sticking our two fingers up to the Premier League & fucking over PSR, then good.
I just wish that we had sold them a dud in the same mould as Dobbin.
I know nothing about him, but that doesn't make him a dud. Tim is not the future of Villa, Unai works with him everyday in training and I'll trust his judgement.
Time will tell over both.
I just think Everton have come out of this deal in a lot stronger position than we have.
And I really hope that we have a decent buyback clause in our favour with Iroegbunam.
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So they buy Tim for £10m, next day we buy this geezer for £10m but both spread the values of the £10m over the contact?
So for PSR, if he was on a 5yr deal, we'd be up £8m in the accounts?
If that's right, which it probably isn't, what a stupid rule. If it helps us out in the PSR regard then crack on, but from a footballing side seems a bit pointless unless Emery specifically wanted him rather than just picking someone to use to fudge the numbers.
I can see Tim playing for them more than this guy does for us.
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You keep saying he didn't play much in the second half of the season for a crap Everton side, and I told you why. He was out injured for a while.
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
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You keep saying he didn't play much in the second half of the season for a crap Everton side, and I told you why. He was out injured for a while.
And I amended my position based on your updated information.
It didn't change my overall point though.
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
No we haven't, not officially, although we seem to have agreed with Barkley but are waiting until July to announce, so his transfer fee comes out of the next years accounts. I think.
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You keep saying he didn't play much in the second half of the season for a crap Everton side, and I told you why. He was out injured for a while.
And I amended my position based on your updated information.
It didn't change my overall point though.
No, you think it's a shit deal, even though you know nothing about the lad. Which is an odd position to take.
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
The Mods or the person starting the thread usually add 'Signed' once the i's are dotted and t's are crossed. From what I gather Tim and Dobbin are both undergoing medicals today.
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
My understanding was McKinnie was definitely going to stretch the shirt.
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
We tend to have a new thread when it becomes clear that it's a real thing and worthy of separate discussion. So the various Juventus off-cuts, Maatsen and this lad are clearly different from "we should sign this bloke that I saw playing in the J-League once" type posts and "Football Insider says that Carlton Palmer was seen shopping at Coleshill Tesco" posts which obviously don't need their new thread.
Whether we sign them or not, it's better in their own thread. Otherwise the transfer thread is a tangle of Barkley, McKennie, Iling-Junior, Maatsen, Barrenechea, a couple of pun runs and various other bits of chit-chat besides.
Rest assured, if / when any of them are signed, that will be added to the thread title.
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
My understanding was McKinnie was definitely going to stretch the shirt.
Apparently he's been getting pelters on social media from the Juve fans, all begging him to leave, some not quite as polite as they could be.
As for Dobbin, the Evertonians don't seem too happy with him leaving. We may have overpaid for him but then so did Everton with Tim.
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You keep saying he didn't play much in the second half of the season for a crap Everton side, and I told you why. He was out injured for a while.
And I amended my position based on your updated information.
It didn't change my overall point though.
No, you think it's a shit deal, even though you know nothing about the lad. Which is an odd position to take.
I know how many minutes he played for a relegation scrapping Everton at the age of 21.
So I have questions about the deal.
Especially as we have sent Iroegbunam the other way.
But I will make you a bet, if he plays more than 300 minutes for Villa next season, then I will donate a tenner to the forum.
If he plays less than 300 minutes for Villa next season, then you donate a tenner instead?
And I would just like to add, Im not being negative for the sake of it.
I am very excited about the potential Maatsen & Iling-Junior transfers. Very excited.
But at times, I have questions or concerns about some of the things Villa do. And its always & only because I want the very best for Villa.
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
My understanding was McKinnie was definitely going to stretch the shirt.
Apparently he's been getting pelters on social media from the Juve fans, all begging him to leave, some not quite as polite as they could be.
As for Dobbin, the Evertonians don't seem too happy with him leaving. We may have overpaid for him but then so did Everton with Tim.
Odd that.
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Don't tell the authorities.
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I think 9m for Tim is pretty reasonable to be honest
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Tim struggled to get a game in the league when we could barely field 11 fit players, he didn't even get a start at Palace. You act as though we've lost some super prospect rather than someone Unai clearly doesn't think is good enough.
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You keep saying he didn't play much in the second half of the season for a crap Everton side, and I told you why. He was out injured for a while.
And I amended my position based on your updated information.
It didn't change my overall point though.
No, you think it's a shit deal, even though you know nothing about the lad. Which is an odd position to take.
I know how many minutes he played for a relegation scrapping Everton at the age of 21.
So I have questions about the deal.
Especially as we have sent Iroegbunam the other way.
But I will make you a bet, if he plays more than 300 minutes for Villa next season, then I will donate a tenner to the forum.
If he plays less than 300 minutes for Villa next season, then you donate a tenner instead?
And I would just like to add, Im not being negative for the sake of it.
I am very excited about the potential Maatsen & Iling-Junior transfers. Very excited.
But at times, I have questions or concerns about some of the things Villa do. And its always & only because I want the very best for Villa.
Well you are Pablo Picasso. https://youtu.be/Kc2iLAubras?si=-rVJU13uTqt6uFby
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I feel uneasy about these too-early signing threads.
Too late now the horse has bolted.
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I feel uneasy about these too-early signing threads.
Too late now the horse has bolted.
I dunno there are some stubborn bastards around
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My concern with this one isn't about his quality but more about where he fits. On that left side we have Rogers and JJ already who've both looked excellent there then we have Iling-Junior coming in and Buendia back fit who played there more often than anywhere else.
I just don't see how he fits even if Emery wants to use a couple of those in different roles it would still be tough to see him getting any gametime.
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FFS, is he left-footed too? I want someone sexy from Villareal or Philogene back...hell, even Archer to be given a go, not this Danny Cadamarteri 25 years on, nag.
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My concern with this one isn't about his quality but more about where he fits.
I forget the rules, but presumably there's nothing stopping us loaning him straight out?
Let's say, season long loan to Coventry where he pops up with ten goals and someone gives us £6m for him next summer? For the rumoured £3m fee that feels pretty low-risk?
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My concern with this one isn't about his quality but more about where he fits.
I forget the rules, but presumably there's nothing stopping us loaning him straight out?
Let's say, season long loan to Coventry where he pops up with ten goals and someone gives us £6m for him next summer? For the rumoured £3m fee that feels pretty low-risk?
I think it's only being allowed to play for three clubs in a year.
So he could go on loan...
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With all these new threads with new players as well as the transfer thread. I’m getting rather lost with it all.
Have we actually signed anyone yet? Help!
We tend to have a new thread when it becomes clear that it's a real thing and worthy of separate discussion. So the various Juventus off-cuts, Maatsen and this lad are clearly different from "we should sign this bloke that I saw playing in the J-League once" type posts and "Football Insider says that Carlton Palmer was seen shopping at Coleshill Tesco" posts which obviously don't need their new thread.
Whether we sign them or not, it's better in their own thread. Otherwise the transfer thread is a tangle of Barkley, McKennie, Iling-Junior, Maatsen, Barrenechea, a couple of pun runs and various other bits of chit-chat besides.
Rest assured, if / when any of them are signed, that will be added to the thread title.
It’s certainly seems a very busy summer of transfer activity without anything really being confirmed. I’m sure Monchi and Emery know what they are doing, even with the very complicated rules regarding FFP.
It’s even harder to keep tabs when every potential signing is a complete unknown to me, we’ll all so far except the fat Weston-super-Mare fella.
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I still reckon Dobbin is a made up name and the player doesn’t actually exist
I suppose he could play in that false 9 position
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My concern with this one isn't about his quality but more about where he fits.
I forget the rules, but presumably there's nothing stopping us loaning him straight out?
Let's say, season long loan to Coventry where he pops up with ten goals and someone gives us £6m for him next summer? For the rumoured £3m fee that feels pretty low-risk?
Feels a bit...pointless. We never play him and sell him at a loss but offset some of it, his main "contribution" being half the total assets in a swap by us and Everton which adds 9m to our revenue for the year-end 23/24. Even as a numbers-worker, this makes me sad.
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How would selling him for £6m in 12 months after buying him for £3m this summer, equate to a loss?
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The way it's going some of the losers from PSR will be the young players who are being shunted around like trading cards with little regard for their careers.
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Where's the £3m figure coming from?
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How would selling him for £6m in 12 months after buying him for £3m this summer, equate to a loss?
You do realise that was Dave’s imagination running wild with that thoughtful transfer saga
and in reality no profits or loses actually exist
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Lewis NORMAN Dobbin to his mom.
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Where's the £3m figure coming from?
I still haven't seen any mention of what the fee is for Dobbin.
I suspect it will be mysteriously close to what they pay for Tim. Pure coincidence of course.
I saw £3m somewhere. So not what they are paying for Tim.
Blame TV if it turns out we're bunging Everton £20m.
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Where's the £3m figure coming from?
somewhere like The Athletic i'd imagine.
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Blame TV if it turns out we're bunging Everton £20m.
Having also started this new player thread, he has a lot riding on Dobbin actually signing for us.
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How would selling him for £6m in 12 months after buying him for £3m this summer, equate to a loss?
I thought it was like-for-like with Tim, both being valued around 9m.
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Being reported as £3m, which coincidentally is exactly what Everton need to comply with PSR.
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The way it's going some of the losers from PSR will be the young players who are being shunted around like trading cards with little regard for their careers.
True. Then again, they'll not go short as a result.
The best young players will still be first team players in the Premier League, the next rung down will still be moving around Premier League reserve teams and the Championship before they start dropping down, but now with a few extra million in the bank that they weren't getting before.
I spent most of last season watching Blues legend Isaac Vassell looking really sad on the Bath City bench in the sixth tier, reckon he'd had loved the opportunity to be shunted around three or four Premier League teams in his early 20s to give him a bit of financial security before his jobbing career around the lower leagues.
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Quality always rises to the top. Rogers, JJ and soon to be Maatsen. Two with shunt about pathways to a Champions League club, another so good he could stick around with only a short loan spell.
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Blame TV if it turns out we're bunging Everton £20m.
Having also started this new player thread, he has a lot riding on Dobbin actually signing for us.
That's true. Reckon he can take 70 kids up & down the beach at Southport on a good day
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I still reckon Dobbin is a made up name and the player doesn’t actually exist
I suppose he could play in that false 9 position
He is a Football Manager regen.
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I mean, considering his limited minutes, he’s got a decent reel. Quite a few bits where he looked okay against us:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npr8NeRvQj4&pp=ygUMTGV3aXMgZG9iYmlu
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He's quick and will suit those cross field balls into space that the likes of SJM like to play. Unai will make him even better.
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He's quick and will suit those cross field balls into space that the likes of SJM like to play.
Long, crossfield balls to Preston or Sheffield where he'll inevitably be on loan next season.
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He's quick and will suit those cross field balls into space that the likes of SJM like to play.
Long, crossfield balls to Preston or Sheffield where he'll inevitably be on loan next season.
Cheers Unai.
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Suspect he'll go to a promotion hopeful and cover this year's amortisation with it.
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Being reported as £3m, which coincidentally is exactly what Everton need to comply with PSR.
If, though, they are spending £9m on Timmy Irons doesn't that mean they'd need to raise another 6?
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No they’ll book Tim on a five year deal at £9m divided by five.
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It's a load of old BS this FFP lark.
Surely sales should, by the same rationale, be amortised over the length of the contract they go into, also?
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As a kid I had a friend named Robin who was nicknamed Dobbin, I reckon that's a good omen.
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Being reported as £3m, which coincidentally is exactly what Everton need to comply with PSR.
There's a coincidence....as much as being vindictive can be fun is this deal really in the interest of the player? Season long loan to WBA or something
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Suspect he'll go to a promotion hopeful.
That rules Small Heath out, then.
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It's a load of old BS this FFP lark.
Surely sales should, by the same rationale, be amortised over the length of the contract they go into, also?
And this kids, is why accountants get the big bucks.
*Should be more, obviously.
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It's a load of old BS this FFP lark.
Surely sales should, by the same rationale, be amortised over the length of the contract they go into, also?
That would be novel.Amortisation of assets is standard accounting procedure.
The problem is the the method being used to try to regulate the game.
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Being reported as £3m, which coincidentally is exactly what Everton need to comply with PSR.
There's a coincidence....as much as being vindictive can be fun is this deal really in the interest of the player? Season long loan to WBA or something
In our onterest when he does well at the Stripey Filth or Cov and we get to sell him on for £10m.
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I wonder if SUE has a clear plan for him in the team or if we have speculated on a future profit maker?
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It's got a bit of the Morgan Rogers about it for me.
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Straight out on loan to a top end Championship team for 6 months would be my guess.
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Straight out on loan to a top end Championship team for 6 months would be my guess.
Me too. I cannot see him getting enough games with Buendia, Morgan, Ramsey and Junior playing in his position. I actually think Morgan may need to consider himself as a sub for Watkins in order to maintain his growth.
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Straight out on loan to a top end Championship team for 6 months would be my guess.
I'll be pissed off if he we loan him to Blose.
Oh, you said Championship... apologies.
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We have no idea when JJ and Buendia will be ready for first team football though. Maybe the club do and that's why we're making these moves?
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We have no idea when JJ and Buendia will be ready for first team football though. Maybe the club do and that's why we're making these moves?
JJ could be ages yet, and I suspect he will be. Buendia was a bit up and down before his injury even, so first he's got to prove he's over the injury, and then that he's good enough to have a chance of a regular game.
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Is JJ’s injury that bad? I thought a metatarsal was a coupe of months so should be back for pre-season.
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Is JJ’s injury that bad? I thought a metatarsal was a coupe of months so should be back for pre-season.
Well it kept him out virtually all season. It seems like he's had some plate/screw in, that never seems to heal properly.
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Is JJ’s injury that bad? I thought a metatarsal was a coupe of months so should be back for pre-season.
Isn't it the same injury that's kept him out of the squad most of the season? So it could be properly fixed now, or we could get a repeat of last year.
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Is JJ’s injury that bad? I thought a metatarsal was a coupe of months so should be back for pre-season.
Well, he’s got a good engine so the sooner he’s back the better.
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Is JJ’s injury that bad? I thought a metatarsal was a coupe of months so should be back for pre-season.
Isn't it the same injury that's kept him out of the squad most of the season? So it could be properly fixed now, or we could get a repeat of last year.
My memory (unreliable) was that he’d had two failed “quick fixes” so the reason they wrote off the last few months of last season was to remove the plate/screw and allow it to heal properly. I understood that to mean the risk of the injury reoccurring was significantly reduced.
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It's got a bit of the Morgan Rogers about it for me.
You reckon? Their paths have been a bit different.
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Is JJ’s injury that bad? I thought a metatarsal was a coupe of months so should be back for pre-season.
Isn't it the same injury that's kept him out of the squad most of the season? So it could be properly fixed now, or we could get a repeat of last year.
My memory (unreliable) was that he’d had two failed “quick fixes” so the reason they wrote off the last few months of last season was to remove the plate/screw and allow it to heal properly. I understood that to mean the risk of the injury reoccurring was significantly reduced.
Entirely possible, and hopefully correct.
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JJ is meant to be back at the start of pre-season and Buendia was training on the grass before the end of the season.
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Now official.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/23/villa-announce/
(https://img.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/1400x1400/16224a40-3152-11ef-a475-31b07b0c14af.jpg)
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Welcome young man.
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Green?
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I like his training top!
Welcome to the Villa, Lewis.
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I've read the fee is £3m?
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Welcome, Lewis. Can we get a "signed", please, OP?
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It's a load of old BS this FFP lark.
What is BS?
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Please be more interesting to watch than the Dobbin in Rentaghost, which was shit.
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I've read the fee is £3m?
Closer to £10m
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I think he shows a bit of promise.
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Green?
Weird that they couldn't throw together a claret one for such purposes. Although maybe we're just having a completely different colour for training gear this season.
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Green?
Weird that they couldn't throw together a claret one for such purposes. Although maybe we're just having a completely different colour for training gear this season.
It's a nod to all the Irish Villans. Nice!
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Someone will be annoyed that we're wearing green like some kind of Saudi club.
(I quite like that colour combination, if it is any indication of a kit)
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Green?
We will have every shade of the rainbow, there will be limited edition “drops” every now and again (after suitable social media hyping up).. All part of the plan no doubt.
Anyway welcome to Dobbin, I wonder if he’ll pop off on loan somewhere?
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Green?
Weird that they couldn't throw together a claret one for such purposes. Although maybe we're just having a completely different colour for training gear this season.
Training gear has come in a variety of colours and patterns over the years.
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Green?
Weird that they couldn't throw together a claret one for such purposes. Although maybe we're just having a completely different colour for training gear this season.
Training gear has come in a variety of colours and patterns over the years.
First glimpse of what we can expect from Adidas.
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@LewisDobbin
So Happy To be Joining Such A huge Club With Big Ambitions. An Incredible Opportunity, I Can’t Wait To Get Started And Give My All For This Club. See You All At Villa Park! UTV💜🤍
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@LewisDobbin
So Happy To be Joining Such A huge Club With Big Ambitions. An Incredible Opportunity, I Can’t Wait To Get Started And Give My All For This Club. See You All At Villa Park! UTV💜🤍
Good start. :)
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Apart from every word beginning with a capital letter.
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@LewisDobbin
So Happy To be Joining Such A huge Club With Big Ambitions. An Incredible Opportunity, I Can’t Wait To Get Started And Give My All For This Club. See You All At Villa Park! UTV💜🤍
A Lot Of Capitals.
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Aesthetically speaking I like the look of caps for the start of each word. Definitely preferable to the no caps no punctuation option.
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Doesn't this cause a problem for "we're waiting for the new kit to announce all the signings" theory?
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Please be more interesting to watch than the Dobbin in Rentaghost, which was shit.
Wasn’t just me then that despised Rentaghost. Utterly scandalous that it had a prime TV slot.
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Please be more interesting to watch than the Dobbin in Rentaghost, which was shit.
Wasn’t just me then that despised Rentaghost. Utterly scandalous that it had a prime TV slot.
Yeah, from the few bits of it I watched, it was rubbish.
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I dont suppose there are any footballers called Timothy Claypole we can sign?
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I hope his contribution is not Meak(er).
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Doesn't this cause a problem for "we're waiting for the new kit to announce all the signings" theory?
I only ever jokingly suggested that. Seems Barkley was on holidays, and possibly the way we're doing the swaps has made it so everything had to be in place before we could officially sign off on them?
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@LewisDobbin
So Happy To be Joining Such A huge Club With Big Ambitions. An Incredible Opportunity, I Can’t Wait To Get Started And Give My All For This Club. See You All At Villa Park! UTV💜🤍
A Lot Of Capitals.
I never understood the tic some people have for Capitalising The Beginning Of Every Word In A Sentence.
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I dont suppose there are any footballers called Timothy Claypole we can sign?
Doubtful, but every chance I would have thought of a Popov being available from the Bulgarian league.
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Doesn't this cause a problem for "we're waiting for the new kit to announce all the signings" theory?
Not really. I don't suppose Adidas would be that bothered about what is essentially another youth team signing. They might be more interested if we spend £35m on that Maatsen.
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Please be more interesting to watch than the Dobbin in Rentaghost, which was shit.
Wasn’t just me then that despised Rentaghost. Utterly scandalous that it had a prime TV slot.
Surely everyone despised Rentaghost?
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Doesn't this cause a problem for "we're waiting for the new kit to announce all the signings" theory?
This is the new training kit signing. We are going to keep announcing new signings as different bits of official tat become available. When we complete the Mbappé deal in January, it'll be to announce the new Adidas club pyjamas.
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Please be more interesting to watch than the Dobbin in Rentaghost, which was shit.
Wasn’t just me then that despised Rentaghost. Utterly scandalous that it had a prime TV slot.
It was OK for the first couple of series (when the Mumford and Davenport characters were in it).
Became a bit Claypole heavy after that which, I agree, was shit
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Please be more interesting to watch than the Dobbin in Rentaghost, which was shit.
Wasn’t just me then that despised Rentaghost. Utterly scandalous that it had a prime TV slot.
It was OK for the first couple of series (when the Mumford and Davenport characters were in it).
Became a bit Claypole heavy after that which, I agree, was shit
Series 1 and 2 were classic kids TV. It went down hill after that.
I was a fan before they were famous, of course.
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Doesn't this cause a problem for "we're waiting for the new kit to announce all the signings" theory?
Not really. I don't suppose Adidas would be that bothered about what is essentially another youth team signing. They might be more interested if we spend £35m on that Maatsen.
They're also probably not holding out for Ross Barkley to stand next to Messi and Salah in their next big TV ad, and his delay is where the theory originated.
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This is the new training kit signing. We are going to keep announcing new signings as different bits of official tat become available. When we complete the Mbappé deal in January, it'll be to announce the new Adidas club pyjamas.
Mr. & Mrs. Buendia will be miffed if they're not chosen for that launch.
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Welcome Lewis, good luck.
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Quick, good feet. Has potential. Good luck, Lewis.
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Doesn't this cause a problem for "we're waiting for the new kit to announce all the signings" theory?
Not really. I don't suppose Adidas would be that bothered about what is essentially another youth team signing. They might be more interested if we spend £35m on that Maatsen.
They're also probably not holding out for Ross Barkley to stand next to Messi and Salah in their next big TV ad, and his delay is where the theory originated.
I think the idea was more that the new signings wouldn't have anything to stretch for the photo, so we had to wait for the kit to arrive to do that. I'm not sure anyone was really suggesting it was the real reason either, and definitely not that Adidas were waiting to do some big double reveal of the kit and the players.
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Green?
Weird that they couldn't throw together a claret one for such purposes. Although maybe we're just having a completely different colour for training gear this season.
It's a nod to all the Irish Villans. Nice!
Or a worrying sign that the Saudis are coming for us next...
Anyway, most important thing about this picture is that it indicates that Unai is off relaxing and getting a break from this wretched sport.
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I reckon Adidas had a warehouse full of green gear because Germany has ditched green as its change strip. I assume Germany has paid its apocryphal debt to Ireland.
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I do wonder if this is a fattening of the calf move and he'll just get a couple of domestic cup games before being sold for a big fee to a promoted prem club next season or two.
There's an unbalance to the squad as this preferred position is wing unless he's made into a striker.
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Joins WBA on season long loan.
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What a load of bollix.
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Agent Dobbin, scoping out our next signings from the WBA academy.
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What a load of bollix.
Yep. I mean, the rules are bollocks, and we're doing what we have to do, but even so...
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Well, to be fair, he's had an opportunity during pre-season to impress and make his case.
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Joins WBA on season long loan.
Be funny if WBA also took Tim on loan from Everton
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Joins WBA on season long loan.
Be funny if WBA also took Tim on loan from Everton
Oh please please please please please
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I'd assume he knew that was the most likely outcome. And if the international players had been back he may not have even gone to the US.
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Good to see him get some regular game time at our feeder academy.
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So we've sent him to train with our youth team? Doesn't sound good ...
Being more serious, it seems a good move for him. Albion should be there or thereabouts in the Championship. Just taking everything else out of the equation, a good season there and we should be able to flog him on at a tidy profit even if it turns out he isn't strong enough to get in our first team.
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He'll have to have an excellent season for us to recoup the £9m we reportedly paid for him.
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He'll have to have an excellent season for us to recoup the £9m we reportedly paid for him.
I suppose there's more chance of him doing that in The Championship than sitting on Villa's bench and playing a League Cup game
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To be fair it's absolute peak trolling from the club. "You see your PSR rules? You can shove them riiiiight up your arse!"
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Not a fan of this. I like to be able to cheer on our loan signings, not have them playing for some twats that will sing about us all game.
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We waited just long enough for people to stop talking about us gaming the system, too.
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Chelsea have been hoovering up players and farming them out on loan before selling them on for years.
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Albion clearly getting treated like a feeder club in different ways now.
"He looks good" *Harrison points at someone* "We'll have him" so we take him.
"Here, train this one up for us now".
We need to give them something back. Maybe let their squad do our stadium tour or something?
Have their photo taken with the European Cup?
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Albion clearly getting treated like a feeder club in different ways now.
"He looks good" *Harrison points at someone* "We'll have him" so we take him.
"Here, train this one up for us now".
We need to give them something back. Maybe let their squad do our stadium tour or something?
Have their photo taken with the European Cup?
Get some WBA diaries printed with our trophy list in them?
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Surprised they can afford the loan fee.
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It’s a bit annoying as now I have to take an interest in West Brom’s results.
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Albion clearly getting treated like a feeder club in different ways now.
"He looks good" *Harrison points at someone* "We'll have him" so we take him.
"Here, train this one up for us now".
We need to give them something back. Maybe let their squad do our stadium tour or something?
Have their photo taken with the European Cup?
Get some WBA diaries printed with our trophy list in them?
LOL
Didn't the noses do that PMSL
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It’s a bit annoying as now I have to take an interest in West Brom’s results.
I always have.
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Wouldn't they say you/we're obsessed?
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Good luck Lewis and West Brom.
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Albion clearly getting treated like a feeder club in different ways now.
"He looks good" *Harrison points at someone* "We'll have him" so we take him.
"Here, train this one up for us now".
We need to give them something back. Maybe let their squad do our stadium tour or something?
Have their photo taken with the European Cup?
Get some WBA diaries printed with our trophy list in them?
Titled "First team honours"
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I hope he's top scorer and they go up. I can then put it all down to The Villa, sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for a least 6 months.
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I hope he's top scorer and they go up. I can then put it all down to The Villa, sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for a least 6 months.
Absolute, definite final warning.
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I hope he's top scorer and he single-handedly gets them to the Play-Off final, he scores a hattrick but they get beaten 4-3 with the last kick of the game being one of their homegrown academy players scoring an own goal. I can then put it all down to The Villa (given our player got them there, and the academy player is one we ignored for not being good enough) , sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for a least 6 months.
That better Dave?
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I hope he's top scorer and he single-handedly gets them to the Play-Off final, he scores a hattrick but they get beaten 4-3 with the last kick of the game being one of their homegrown academy players scoring an own goal. I can then put it all down to The Villa (given our player got them there, and the academy player is one we ignored for not being good enough) , sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for a least 6 months.
That better Dave?
Not quite.
I hope he's top scorer and they get relegated, losing every match so heavily they're put into the National League. I can then put it all down to The Villa, sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for at least 6 months until they go out of business.
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I hope he's top scorer and they go up. I can then put it all down to The Villa, sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for a least 6 months.
Absolute, definite final warning.
Dave you sound like my dearly departed mum and you knew it was the final warning
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I hope he's top scorer and he single-handedly gets them to the Play-Off final, he scores a hattrick but they get beaten 4-3 with the last kick of the game being one of their homegrown academy players scoring an own goal. I can then put it all down to The Villa (given our player got them there, and the academy player is one we ignored for not being good enough) , sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for a least 6 months.
That better Dave?
Not quite.
I hope he's top scorer and they get relegated, losing every match so heavily they're put into the National League. I can then put it all down to The Villa, sit back and watch them wrestling with that scenario and being puzzled for at least 6 months until they go out of business.
And people comment on my hatred for tghe Redfilth - jesus
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Was just checking how he is doing and a lot of negative comments about him. Dont think he will make it here if he is not doing well in championship
Must have been purely for FFP
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You’re a better man than me, I forgot the bloke was even a footballer
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He hardly gets a chance with them. The loan seems pointless.
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The entire signing was just a PSR exercise between us and Everton. He is never, ever going to play a single second for us.
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There's always our League Cup exit next season for him to get some minutes
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Has started the last 4 matches on the bench and has come on in all of them, played the full 2nd half last night.
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You’re a better man than me, I forgot the bloke was even a footballer
Yeah it was clearly done for ffp. Doubt we will get that 10m back. Can see him just being constantly loaned out then leave for a small fee
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Was just checking how he is doing and a lot of negative comments about him. Dont think he will make it here if he is not doing well in championship
Must have been purely for FFP
I can confirm, he's not very good.
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No idea why we chose to buy him out of all the options at everton.at least eveeton are getting use of timmy even if injured. While dobbin is likely to offer us nothing
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No idea why we chose to buy him out of all the options at everton.at least eveeton are getting use of timmy even if injured. While dobbin is likely to offer us nothing
Definitely. Especially when you think of the abundance of talent Everton must have available to offload.
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Buying him may have helped us steal a march on getting Onana in, instead of fucking around like Man Utd did and losing out of both Branthwaite and the big man.
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I think thats a fair point - it probably did help get onana in
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I can confirm, he's not very good.
1 season at The Bitters, to burn a year of contract and some wages, then sell for £5-6m to get off the books. Simples.
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No idea why we chose to buy him out of all the options at everton.at least eveeton are getting use of timmy even if injured. While dobbin is likely to offer us nothing
Because he was the player Everton chose to sell because as home grown he was full book value for them….the PSR stuff wasn’t just to suit us
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I can confirm, he's not very good.
1 season at The Bitters, to burn a year of contract and some wages, then sell for £5-6m to get off the books. Simples.
Who is paying that sort of money for him?
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Aston Villa - the rest are irrelevant. Good luck Lewis.
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I can confirm, he's not very good.
1 season at The Bitters, to burn a year of contract and some wages, then sell for £5-6m to get off the books. Simples.
Who is paying that sort of money for him?
Yeah, I was wondering that. We ain’t getting as much for him as we did for Azaz based on what he’s done to date.
We might get a few million for him if he looks like a good player at that level, but that doesn’t seem to be the case so far,
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Everton negotiated better. Iroegbunam was ready to be given a run of starts at PL level, Dobbin was nowhere near it. Presumably, no one else would pay £50m for Onana either.
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Everton negotiated better. Iroegbunam was ready to be given a run of starts at PL level, Dobbin was nowhere near it. Presumably, no one else would pay £50m for Onana either.
Man Utd wanted him but he turned it down to come here and work with Unai.
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I can confirm, he's not very good.
1 season at The Bitters, to burn a year of contract and some wages, then sell for £5-6m to get off the books. Simples.
Who is paying that sort of money for him?
Fuck knows! The loan down the road certainly hasn't helped him, despite him coming from a season at Everton where he was starting to get Premier League minutes.
I've no idea what he's like and what his potential is but he needs to be moved to a team where he can get the chance to prove his worth.
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Recalled.
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Recalled.
Might he be sent to Stockport to replace Louie ?
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Either going to Norwich, Newport or Notts County, as some berk on twitter says he's close to joining NCFC.
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The type of signing Paul Lambert would have had us grateful for.
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The Athletic reporting he’s off to Norwich on loan.
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Either going to Norwich, Newport or Notts County, as some berk on twitter says he's close to joining NCFC.
They meant Norwich but just tagged it in a really stupid way on twitter.
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Either going to Norwich, Newport or Notts County, as some berk on twitter says he's close to joining NCFC.
They meant Norwich but just tagged it in a really stupid way on twitter.
I know, but they didn't spring to mind when I first read it, and I thought either Newport or Notts County was a worrying step down for the lad.
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Sell him back to Everton for £20m with an agreement that we buy Iroegbunam back for £20m as well.
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Sell him back to Everton for £20m with an agreement that we buy Iroegbunam back for £20m as well.
Just do that every transfer window, increasing the value by £10m every time until the premier league change the rules.
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Is Tim playing for Everton - seemed to get off to a bright start not heard much since.
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Injured
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I got £57m out of Arsenal for Tim on FM last night, after I'd sent him on loan to Hibs for 6 months.
Monchi out.
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Is Tim playing for Everton - seemed to get off to a bright start not heard much since.
As Dave mentioned, injured. Although the bright start included 4 losses with two matches where they threw away 2-0 leads on the trot and conceded 13 goals in total. He then barely started the next three and they got a win and two draws conceding 2.
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Either going to Norwich, Newport or Notts County, as some berk on twitter says he's close to joining NCFC.
Can we have Borja Sainz in return?
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Aston Villa can confirm that Lewis Dobbin has returned from his loan at West Bromwich Albion and will immediately join Norwich City until the end of the season.
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Dobbin out for rest of season with calf injury. Seemed to have been alot better with norwich as they said they would like him back next season once fit again
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Dobbin out for rest of season with calf injury. Seemed to have been alot better with norwich as they said they would like him back next season once fit again
They can buy him then.
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What a shame for him, he was starting to settle from what I've heard and both Norwich fans I know want to keep him.
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Dobbin out for rest of season with calf injury. Seemed to have been alot better with norwich as they said they would like him back next season once fit again
They can buy him then.
Im sure they would love to but as a championship un who knows if they can afford him
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Off to Preston.
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Good luck to him. More salary freed up.