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Title: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on March 14, 2024, 09:54:05 PM
That'll do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on March 14, 2024, 09:55:14 PM
Never in doubt. Onwards and upwards
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on March 14, 2024, 09:55:29 PM
Easy peasy, especially when 11 v 10.  Which is, y'know, obvious really. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: wince on March 14, 2024, 09:55:43 PM
One for the prioritise Sunday brigade! Get in there Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on March 14, 2024, 09:56:25 PM
Happy for Diaby and the gang!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 14, 2024, 09:56:35 PM
Good stuff. Lovely to see Diaby have zip about his play.

Hope the injuries are just precautionary, particularly critical with Ollie obviously. I think that was a painful one rather than a serious one (I hope!).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 14, 2024, 09:56:39 PM
I hope Watkins hasn't fucked his knee. We won. Sound.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 14, 2024, 09:57:53 PM
Pray4Ollie
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on March 14, 2024, 09:58:02 PM
Won without having to stretch too much.  Sensible subs from Unai too.  Pleased for Diaby and Duran for their goals. Quarter-final here we come.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on March 14, 2024, 09:58:35 PM
I hope Watkins hasn't fucked his knee. We won. Sound.

That'd be quite the fetish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on March 14, 2024, 09:59:59 PM
This team come back after a bad performance. Good to see.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PhilVill on March 14, 2024, 10:00:10 PM
Pleased Diaby showing signs of coming back and pleased for Duran. Good to get Sunday out of the system.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 14, 2024, 10:01:04 PM
Not heard much from VillaTim tonight.

Strange he is always about when news is suboptimal. Hope he is ok after Tuesday's result
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yeltzer on March 14, 2024, 10:02:06 PM
Praying for Ollie. But FTF. 4-0 nice
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 14, 2024, 10:02:46 PM
Still some aspects on sloppiness in there that we need to cut out and being honest it should have been about 8. But great to bounce back and for Diaby to look more like himself. Now please don’t be injured Ollie.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu82 on March 14, 2024, 10:02:51 PM
Diaby looking much better.

Bailey goal a belter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 14, 2024, 10:03:22 PM
Pleasing, can't remember a game where we scored four with such cracking finishes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 14, 2024, 10:03:24 PM
Not heard much from VillaTim tonight.

Strange he is always about when news is suboptimal. Hope he is ok after Tuesday's result
Good point. He mustn't like the OTT nature of the match threads. Or the spunkioooOOOOOs! (sp?)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on March 14, 2024, 10:03:31 PM
Almost an exact repeat of Sunday except we are the victors this time.

Mostly good all round. Our crossing from the left wasn't brilliant and Duran lacked composure with several wasteful finishes. The one he did score was a belter. Rogers should probably have scored too. Hopefully Ollie isn't hurt too badly.

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 14, 2024, 10:04:34 PM
I reckon Ollie will be just fine. Just a bang on the knee. He'll be good to go in May.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 14, 2024, 10:06:30 PM
Oliie will play Sunday
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 14, 2024, 10:06:37 PM
Not heard much from VillaTim tonight.

Strange he is always about when news is suboptimal. Hope he is ok after Tuesday's result

He's probably at the game, and not on his phone. Good etiquette, I'd say.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 14, 2024, 10:08:35 PM
Aston Villa 4-0 Ajax: Unai Emery's side move into Europa Conference League quarter-finals - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68558544
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on March 14, 2024, 10:08:43 PM
Happy with that, Diaby looks up for it again, Duran went from being Keinan Davis to Ollie Watkins in about 10 minutes, Bailey looked class as usual and we went about our business in a thoroughly professional manner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yeltzer on March 14, 2024, 10:09:02 PM
Bailey on TNT: I asked Ollie to stay on til half time, but it (his injury) was bad and he couldn’t 😧
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on March 14, 2024, 10:10:20 PM
Bailey on TNT: I asked Ollie to stay on til half time, but it (his injury) was bad and he couldn’t 😧

Surely it it were *that* bad, he wouldn't have stayed on to score a goal?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on March 14, 2024, 10:10:59 PM
Super result. Really needed that.

Not the best performance overall, but still smashed them.

Lovely to see Duran & Diaby score.

I love hearing Bailey in interviews after the game. He sounds so happy to be at the club. Superb attitude.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 14, 2024, 10:11:12 PM
Bailey on TNT: I asked Ollie to stay on til half time, but it (his injury) was bad and he couldn’t 😧

I expect he meant too sore. If he banged the bone up, the swelling would have made it more uncomfortable as time went on. If it was anything more serious the physio team would have taken him straight off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on March 14, 2024, 10:12:11 PM
Bailey on TNT: I asked Ollie to stay on til half time, but it (his injury) was bad and he couldn’t 😧

Surely it it were *that* bad, he wouldn't have stayed on to score a goal?

Thats what Bailey said. He also said it was a cut.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 14, 2024, 10:12:35 PM
Bag of frozen peas and he'll be reet
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on March 14, 2024, 10:13:16 PM
Nights like that seemed a long way off 5 or 6 years ago. Nights like that is where we belong.

Aston Villa 4-0 Ajax. Diaby and Duran were major plusses tonight

Hoping Watkins is more precaution than anything
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on March 14, 2024, 10:14:27 PM
Watching the post match chat on TV - still love Alan Hutton. The original Villa Cafu.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 14, 2024, 10:14:53 PM
I reckon Ollie will be just fine. Just a bang on the knee. He'll be good to go in May.

Roy Keane just asked go where ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 14, 2024, 10:15:09 PM
Bailey on TNT: I asked Ollie to stay on til half time, but it (his injury) was bad and he couldn’t 😧

Surely it it were *that* bad, he wouldn't have stayed on to score a goal?

Bailey just said on TNT that it was a bad open cut on the knee. Much better than knee tendons.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 14, 2024, 10:17:09 PM
So after that showing, who expects Henderson to be the first name on the England team sheet?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 14, 2024, 10:17:38 PM
So after that showing, who expects Henderson to be the first name on the England team sheet?


Southgate?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on March 14, 2024, 10:17:46 PM
So after that showing, who expects Henderson to be the first name on the England team sheet?

The OGB!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on March 14, 2024, 10:19:49 PM
Duran looked good, bullied their defenders, made things happen,  nearly broke the crossbar. If Ollie, McGrath forbid, is in bother, he's one of our main forwards. I think he's going to be a v good player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 14, 2024, 10:20:40 PM
Not heard much from VillaTim tonight.

Strange he is always about when news is suboptimal. Hope he is ok after Tuesday's result

He's probably at the game, and not on his phone. Good etiquette, I'd say.
He tried to post but couldn't get any WiFi at the ground.*

*It is not clear which ground
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 14, 2024, 10:22:01 PM
So after that showing, who expects Henderson to be the first name on the England team sheet?


Guaranteed.

Henderson, Phillps, Mount

Triumshite
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 14, 2024, 10:22:19 PM
This reporter on TNT, jesus.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Olof's Beard on March 14, 2024, 10:23:16 PM
Yep, Diaby looked far better. Looked like he had pace again, it would be a massive boost if he found form for the run in. Duran was really sharp too deserved his goal. Would have been nice if Dougie had more of a rest, we really can't afford for owt to happen to him now.

My Ajax supporting mate calls this the worse Ajax side in a generation and probably isn't far off, they were poor. But you have to admire our ability to bounce back from a hammering by dishing out one of our own.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: BC Villain on March 14, 2024, 10:24:11 PM
Much needed after Sundays debacle.  Fingers crossed Watkins going off was a precaution
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 14, 2024, 10:24:40 PM
So after that showing, who expects Henderson to be the first name on the England team sheet?


Guaranteed.

Henderson, Phillps, Mount

Triumshite

Replace Phillips and Mount with Rice and Gallagher and there will only be one there from merit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 14, 2024, 10:30:19 PM
I hope we get Lille and then Victoria’s Secret or whatever that bunch of Polish tractor factory workers are called.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 14, 2024, 10:31:20 PM
Much needed after Sundays debacle.  Fingers crossed Watkins going off was a precaution
Yes. I quite agree. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: lovejoy on March 14, 2024, 10:36:13 PM
I hope we get Lille and then Victoria’s Secret or whatever that bunch of Polish tractor factory workers are called.

Czech and it’s the home of pilsner urquell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on March 14, 2024, 10:36:52 PM
I dont think we played that great which makes the 4-0 win very pleasing. But ajax were so poor. They gave us so much time on the ball and rarely pressed us.

As soon as a team presses us like spurs did we struggle so something for unai to think about.

Thought duran was excellent his finishing was abit rusty but the goal was a rocket.

Bailey and diabs also excellent performances tonight.

Also fuck off hendo 😂
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 14, 2024, 10:37:28 PM
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 14, 2024, 10:37:28 PM
I hope we get Lille and then Victoria’s Secret or whatever that bunch of Polish tractor factory workers are called.

Czech and it’s the home of pilsner urquell.

I’ve never heard of her.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 14, 2024, 10:42:29 PM
I hope we get Lille and then Victoria’s Secret or whatever that bunch of Polish tractor factory workers are called.

Czech and it’s the home of pilsner urquell.

I’ve never heard of her.

I think she's a blonde.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 14, 2024, 10:42:48 PM
There was a hint of energy conservation after 2-0 and 11 v 10. Ajax pretty much gave up at that point and we just picked off another couple of goals almost at will
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 14, 2024, 10:43:31 PM
I hope we get Lille and then Victoria’s Secret or whatever that bunch of Polish tractor factory workers are called.

Czech and it’s the home of pilsner urquell.

I’ve never heard of her.

I think she's a blonde.

Another one Ads doesn't want to marry.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on March 14, 2024, 10:43:37 PM
Hoping Watkins is more precaution than anything
Wish it was but no. Watching the discussion in out tech area about 3 yards away I would say that it’s serious but not broken bone.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 14, 2024, 10:46:41 PM
Hoping Watkins is more precaution than anything
Wish it was but no. Watching the discussion in out tech area about 3 yards away I would say that it’s serious but not broken bone.
Watched the discussion? Did you hear anything?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chap on March 14, 2024, 10:47:28 PM
Hoping Watkins is more precaution than anything
Wish it was but no. Watching the discussion in out tech area about 3 yards away I would say that it’s serious but not broken bone.
Camera in the tunnel at HT showed him
walking out of the treatment room with a slight limp but no strapping, so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on March 14, 2024, 10:49:50 PM
Started off a bit gingerly but credit where it’s due, a fine overall performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on March 14, 2024, 10:50:10 PM
Hoping Watkins is more precaution than anything
Wish it was but no. Watching the discussion in out tech area about 3 yards away I would say that it’s serious but not broken bone.
Watched the discussion? Did you hear anything?
No, far too noisy but general facial expressions and body language but let’s hope it’s not too bad. Can’t see him playing Sunday though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 14, 2024, 10:54:00 PM
Interesting that the ref didn't play the added on time in the second half. I know that in a knockout competition the losing team can agree to not play it. I guess Hendo gave the ref the signal
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mouse Potato on March 14, 2024, 10:54:37 PM
Unai said there’s a fair chance of Ollie being ok for Sunday
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on March 14, 2024, 10:55:43 PM
Unai said there’s a fair chance of Ollie being ok for Sunday

In 2025.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 14, 2024, 10:57:08 PM
Pleasing, can't remember a game where we scored four with such cracking finishes.

White Hart Lane, April 2000.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on March 14, 2024, 10:57:25 PM
Hoping Watkins is more precaution than anything
Wish it was but no. Watching the discussion in out tech area about 3 yards away I would say that it’s serious but not broken bone.

Bailey said in an interview after the game on TNT that its a "bad, open cut".

So it's serious in the sense that he will probably need stitches & cuts aren't nice in areas that move, like knees, but not as serious as a knee ligament injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on March 14, 2024, 11:00:27 PM
It was odd, it didnt feel like we were playing Ajax. They were pretty poor but we did we what we had to do and could have  scored more.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 14, 2024, 11:00:51 PM
Interesting that the ref didn't play the added on time in the second half. I know that in a knockout competition the losing team can agree to not play it. I guess Hendo gave the ref the signal

Really?! Never heard of that. Sensible I suppose but when your team is winning and blooding some young/fringe players, you're probably happy to keep playing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 14, 2024, 11:03:21 PM
This reporter on TNT, jesus.

Sounded "the spit" of Darren Bent! Was sure it was Benty last week until a young beaming fella showed himself.
He over-elaborates on each of his questions like a giddy fan, bless him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: rougegorge on March 14, 2024, 11:03:51 PM
Interesting that the ref didn't play the added on time in the second half. I know that in a knockout competition the losing team can agree to not play it. I guess Hendo gave the ref the signal
Yes in reality that was absurd. He played 11 seconds rather than about 11 minutes. In the first half there was bizarrely only 5 minutes as well. Wish the ref had done that last Sunday and we'd have only lost 2-0.

That aside, hopefully Diaby picked up some much needed confidence after a much improved display and whislt Duran is not near Ollie's level, he used his strengths well tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaTim on March 14, 2024, 11:07:05 PM
Good honest little win and good to get a reaction after Sunday's horrors. But let's be honest Ajax are on a level with your Blackburn Rovers of this world. But you still have to put them away and the lads did that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on March 14, 2024, 11:09:18 PM
But let's be honest Ajax are on a level with your Blackburn Rovers of this world.

Of this world Ian.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on March 14, 2024, 11:11:36 PM
At least Duran and Diaby scoring will keep Coopers Injury quiet for a while.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Goldenballs on March 14, 2024, 11:12:25 PM
Interesting that the ref didn't play the added on time in the second half. I know that in a knockout competition the losing team can agree to not play it. I guess Hendo gave the ref the signal

Really?! Never heard of that. Sensible I suppose but when your team is winning and blooding some young/fringe players, you're probably happy to keep playing.

I didn't know that was a thing either.

A very enjoyable evening, Duran is good fun, Henderson getting some stick was good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 14, 2024, 11:17:25 PM
I’d like to see us dictate the play a bit more. There was no reason to give them the majority of possession at Villa Park early on. It turned out well in the end because they are not very good but against a better side it could cost us. Job done in the end but initially we made it more difficult than it needed to be.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on March 14, 2024, 11:18:17 PM
I was fearful tonight, a loss could've seen the season take a dive so credit to all for getting a nice hefty win.

No credit whatsoever to the person forcing the announcer to introduce the team with nicknames like Pau "wow " Torres. Serves me right for taking my seat slightly early.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on March 14, 2024, 11:23:41 PM
Hoping Watkins is more precaution than anything
Wish it was but no. Watching the discussion in out tech area about 3 yards away I would say that it’s serious but not broken bone.
I thought Duran was an absolute handful. Hopefully Ollie isn't out for long but sometimes out of adversity sometimes good out it when you least expect it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on March 14, 2024, 11:25:46 PM
Routine 4-0 European wins are something I will happily get used to. Great to see Diaby looking more like it, Luiz & McGinn bossing the midfield, plenty of positives and hopefully Watkins is OK.

An aside but the refereeing in this competition is utterly bizarre.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 14, 2024, 11:26:56 PM
There's a load of Ajax in the Wellington.  One of them has just shouted "Fuck the Albion".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on March 14, 2024, 11:30:17 PM
The police were whizzing about all over the place on the walk back to the Bartons area.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 14, 2024, 11:30:34 PM
There's a load of Ajax in the Wellington.  One of them has just shouted "Fuck the Albion".

Is he looking around for his pint to be delivered?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on March 14, 2024, 11:30:37 PM
I thought the co-commentator on TNT was very good, seemed to know alot about us. Don't know who she was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 14, 2024, 11:32:49 PM
Lucy Ward at a guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on March 14, 2024, 11:38:40 PM
Yin and Yang compared to last Sunday.

Great performance, great atmosphere, great result… Also thought there was a surprising increase in the number of kids attending tonight. What a game for them to attend - will live long in their memories.

Last 8 here we come. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on March 14, 2024, 11:39:08 PM
Routine win. Good to see Diaby playing well and he was linking up well with Bailey, although not everything went as planned.
Good that Rogers got some game time and I thought he looked threatening when he drifted into the middle.
Durans finishing was a bit erratic when a bit of composure was needed but he certainly struck the ball well for his goal and he gave us a different dimension up front.
Ref, just like in Amsterdam, was dodgy. This was more down to the yellow cards that he gave for both teams.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rory on March 14, 2024, 11:45:30 PM
Small point, and it's easy for me to say on this occasion because we were the beneficiaries, but I was pleased to see a ref brave enough to give a second yellow for shirt-pulling.

Pretty much every professional side does it, we do it, but I hate how common it is in the modern game, and consider it a completely unnatural impulse and one of the most cynical of fouls.

Some of the worst leg-breaking tackles you can see the misjudgment. They're worthy of punishment, naturally, but there's not necessarily premeditation. Sometimes it's just a tragic fuck-up.

Same with many handballs we see given, where the player has simply failed to move his or her hand from the path of a ball without knowing where that path was going to be.

Pulling an opponent's shirt, like diving or deliberately running across an opponent's heels, is one of those 'professional fouls' which is the product of a fundamentally cheating mindset.

I wish more players (most notably those playing for the likes of Man City) were pulled up on it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dogtanian on March 14, 2024, 11:46:58 PM
I enjoyed that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on March 14, 2024, 11:47:50 PM
Routine win. Good to see Diaby playing well and he was linking up well with Bailey, although not everything went as planned.
Good that Rogers got some game time and I thought he looked threatening when he drifted into the middle.
Durans finishing was a bit erratic when a bit of composure was needed but he certainly struck the ball well for his goal and he gave us a different dimension up front.
Ref, just like in Amsterdam, was dodgy. This was more down to the yellow cards that he gave for both teams.
I'd love to know how the came to the conclusion that Ollie deserved a booking. Both the ref and the linesman were looking in the opposite direction. Ref was in the centre circle and the linesman was running towards the hall way line. There's no way either of them saw the incident properly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 14, 2024, 11:49:34 PM
I think he was a bit late on the keeper tbh.

I really enjoyed that too! 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 14, 2024, 11:57:16 PM
Great win. Back to checking Athens flights.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Paul.S on March 15, 2024, 12:00:32 AM
We did what we had to and in the second half moved up a gear for an while and killed the game off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on March 15, 2024, 12:04:17 AM
Sunday's Rovers

New 5-a-side team name

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on March 15, 2024, 12:12:40 AM
Enjoyed that and felt we were comfortable throughout really.  Just thought we had that extra bit in every department and blew them.away when it clicked.  Not having away goals takes a bit of the jeopardy out of home ties like that, but we were rarely troubled.

What was going on with that big queue in the passage alongside the players car park up towards the Trinity Road?  I've never seen that there before and when I finally got up to the gates out on to Trinity Road, there didn't seem any reason for it.  It was made worse by some clown trying to antagonise people by bizarrely singing "where were you when we were shit?" repeatedly. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on March 15, 2024, 12:16:13 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on March 15, 2024, 12:24:27 AM
Utter chaos around the North Stand afterwards and quite dangerous in terms of crushing.

By the time got to Witton station everything seemed calm
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 15, 2024, 12:29:59 AM

What was going on with that big queue in the passage alongside the players car park up towards the Trinity Road?  I've never seen that there before and when I finally got up to the gates out on to Trinity Road, there didn't seem any reason for it.  It was made worse by some clown trying to antagonise people by bizarrely singing "where were you when we were shit?" repeatedly. 

Wasn't the Reverser by any chance, was it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rory on March 15, 2024, 12:31:06 AM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 15, 2024, 12:39:05 AM
Bit of a stroll in truth. Ajax are a really poor team, to be honest every team we have played in this competition so far has been. McGinn was our best I thought, certainly left it all out there before his holiday. Torres looked a bit more sure of himself and Diaby had his best game in a long while. Bailey's second that finished the contest was a quality goal. Luiz was the one who disappointed a bit, little loose with his passing and coasting in comparison to McGinn.

Thought their guy was hard done by with both of his yellows.

Onto West Ham we go!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat Mustard on March 15, 2024, 12:51:17 AM
Almost 6 years ago to the day we were losing 3-1 at home to QPR in the championship. We’ve just beaten Ajax 4-0 to qualify for a European quarterfinal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on March 15, 2024, 01:50:24 AM
Brilliant finishes from Watkins, Bailey, Duran and Diaby.

Henderson... Hahahaha, shite. He reminded me of Olof Mellberg playing right back tonight. Every opportunity it was a long, diagonal ball to the left, which our defence or Martinez dealt with easily on each occasion.

Good experience for Iroegbunam, Rogers Nd Duran.

I get the feeling that may be the last we see of Carlos.

Watkins got a stud to the knee, stayed on long enough to score... I like that hunger.

Lots to be pleased with.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 15, 2024, 02:38:46 AM
Lucy Ward at a guess.

Yep she’s very good. She clearly does her research.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 15, 2024, 07:25:26 AM
Brilliant finishes from Watkins, Bailey, Duran and Diaby.

Henderson... Hahahaha, shite. He reminded me of Olof Mellberg playing right back tonight. Every opportunity it was a long, diagonal ball to the left, which our defence or Martinez dealt with easily on each occasion.

Good experience for Iroegbunam, Rogers Nd Duran.

I get the feeling that may be the last we see of Carlos.

Watkins got a stud to the knee, stayed on long enough to score... I like that hunger.

Lots to be pleased with.

Carlos has been really poor this year - v Chelsea especially. The long term injury probably makes him look worse than he was - not sure if he is carrying too much weight or not.
We need a Saudi call for him in the summer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 15, 2024, 07:53:00 AM
Professional job in the second half. Some cracking goals too.

Its quite sad seeing the state this Ajax team are in. As a kid I loved the team of the mid nineties that included the likes of Seedorf, Overmars, Bergkamp, Kluivert, the De Boers etc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 15, 2024, 07:59:15 AM
What was going on with that big queue in the passage alongside the players car park up towards the Trinity Road?  I've never seen that there before and when I finally got up to the gates out on to Trinity Road, there didn't seem any reason for it.

I was in that, I expected like in other European games, that the gate behind the club shop would be open so you come out by Witton island, it wasn’t. So we had to turn around, against people already coming up behind us and walk back through the Trinity gates and down Nelson Rd to reach the same point, when we got there the gates had been opened.All seemed more than a bit unnecessary and dangerous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villan82 on March 15, 2024, 08:08:41 AM
Villa Park really looked the part last night. A special night under the lights.

For me, given discussions elsewhere online, it would be a real lack of imagination to bulldoze it rather than redevelop from it .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dogtanian on March 15, 2024, 08:14:59 AM
They need to ditch this lightshow thing. Less people have done it every time and it's now looking a bit bare.

I'm all for a kick-ass pre-kickoff explosion of energy, but if we're going to do it we need to do it properly. It looks like we've had someone in the marketing department to follow through on some brainstorming ideas. We should go and find a professional company that specialises in these sorts of things to come up with something really special and unique to us that looks like a professional display.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Didier Five on March 15, 2024, 08:18:30 AM
I really enjoyed last night, as others have said Diaby was much better and Ajax were there for the taking. Quite a few long stoppages and only five minutes in total added on time. Confidence booster for Dhuran as well, he can't half get some powere in his shots.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on March 15, 2024, 08:27:27 AM
I thought the co-commentator on TNT was very good, seemed to know alot about us. Don't know who she was.

Yes she was really good. Definitely the best commentator I’ve heard this season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on March 15, 2024, 08:30:56 AM
This is obviously a weaker Ajax side, but Villa were thoroughly professional and overall deserved the win without really stepping out of second gear. It's thrilling to be able to say we're into the quarter finals of this European trophy.

I was happy for Diaby - best game for a while now and when his confidence is back, he will be deadly.

Martinez just makes it look easy all the time. That take at Brobbery's feet later on was something else. I can't believe he plays for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on March 15, 2024, 08:49:52 AM
Really comfortable night in the end. Fingers crossed Ollie is OK. So exciting to be in a cup draw at the business end of a competition.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 15, 2024, 08:52:23 AM
If Ajax were in the Premier League they would be in a relegation fight.
We won easily like we should. The concern is we look tired and we are running out of options, I hope Ramsey and Watkins are available for Sunday .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on March 15, 2024, 09:00:46 AM
Comfortable win and a good night out

But the guy who does the team announcement before the game - can he please not call Pau Torres - Pau Wow Torres, and the goal machine Ollie Watkins

Just say their names!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on March 15, 2024, 09:04:37 AM
Great result really pleased with the performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on March 15, 2024, 09:08:30 AM
Yeah, that 'Goal machine Ollie Watkins'  nonsense was a bit cringy.

Sat in the Trinity for the first time in years. It was good to see the game from a different view. The concourse of the Trinity is starting to look a bit dated now sadly. Enjoyed the change though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dogtanian on March 15, 2024, 09:12:09 AM
Comfortable win and a good night out

But the guy who does the team announcement before the game - can he please not call Pau Torres - Pau Wow Torres, and the goal machine Ollie Watkins

Just say their names!!!!

We were laughing at the wow bit, too. Maybe someone's told him he needs to spice up his delivery lately, as he has been trying to be more energetic lately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on March 15, 2024, 09:14:47 AM
Yeah, very cringey.... Don't mind the yippee-aye-aaaaaaaay bit he does at the end, but the darts-like player name callouts need to be killed with fire.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dogtanian on March 15, 2024, 09:16:26 AM
I can see a certain someone putting pressure on him to create more of an atmosphere if he wants to keep doing it...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on March 15, 2024, 09:17:36 AM
Yeah, very cringey.... Don't mind the yippee-aye-aaaaaaaay bit he does at the end, but the darts-like player name callouts need to be killed with fire.

Apparently the Man City announcer does the Yipee Aye aaaaay bit as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on March 15, 2024, 09:18:21 AM
I know I'm a miserable bastard but the team announcement was unbelievably cringeworthy. And the yippee aye aay thing made me want to claw my own eyeballs out. Just tell us the bloody team in a mildly enthusiastic voice and shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Demitri_C on March 15, 2024, 09:30:14 AM
Bloody hell you miserable bunch 😂

They just trying to build up atmosphere. Itw as really poor esp in 1st half tbh
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 15, 2024, 09:32:27 AM
I am sure the kids love all the razzmatazz and they are the future as Whitney sang 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 15, 2024, 09:33:28 AM
To counter the guy on the mic miserableness, I quite like it and I am a middle aged grump. They missed a good opportunity last night after Hi Ho silver lining and before th teams came out to just let the crowd build the atmosphere. Everyone was in their seat you could hear the Holte starting to find its voice but the fucking speakers were blasting out the Chemical Brothers and you couldn’t hear yourself think. They really need an events company to start having a more serious think about how they do this.

PAU WOW TORRES.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Paul.S on March 15, 2024, 09:39:28 AM
I thought the music before our games could be loud until I experienced that shi*e at Ajax last week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 15, 2024, 09:39:50 AM
Job done professionally! Bring on the QF.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: remy on March 15, 2024, 09:39:59 AM
Wonderful performance by the lads.
Remy junior’s first European match he was able to make because of work commitments- and what an experience he’ll always now remember- Villa Park under the lights in a euro game.
Personally, the gutting feeling after spuds has now been flushed down the toilet. Ajax were poor but still had to be despatched by a professional performance, we could have had 8.
The atmosphere was brilliant and the noise when Ollie scored and limbs where were sat !
Few Dutch fans all over the place in the home end too.
Had a delicious foot long hot dog, followed by a cold pint with music playing outside the ground, bought a discounted shirt from the shop, won a bet on Watkins and Diaby to score, sensibly left 5 mins before full time and got home in 35mins missed all the gridlock.
A very happy Villa fan.
One quick unrelated note - doesn’t matter what shape or form they are but a nose started to work at my firm and doesn’t talk footie as much (nothin to say obviously) but I’m taken aback that still after meeting my first nose like 40 years ago this one is also a twat that does not get on with anyone.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on March 15, 2024, 09:45:35 AM
To counter the guy on the mic miserableness, I quite like it and I am a middle aged grump. They missed a good opportunity last night after Hi Ho silver lining and before th teams came out to just let the crowd build the atmosphere. Everyone was in their seat you could hear the Holte starting to find its voice but the fucking speakers were blasting out the Chemical Brothers and you couldn’t hear yourself think. They really need an events company to start having a more serious think about how they do this.

PAU WOW TORRES.

Surely it should be KAPAU TORRES - proper Batman vibes then
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 15, 2024, 09:46:55 AM
FIGHT AND WIN!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 15, 2024, 09:50:33 AM
The "wow" aside, it made a pleasant change for the team's names not to be announced as if they were about to take part in a WWE rumble. Stretching syllables impresses nobody.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: mamuu on March 15, 2024, 09:59:27 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 15, 2024, 10:06:57 AM
A delicious foot-long hot-dog and a cold pint! See, Villa - IT CAN BE DONE!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 15, 2024, 10:10:48 AM
A delicious foot-long hot-dog and a cold pint! See, Villa - IT CAN BE DONE!

Outside the ground.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on March 15, 2024, 10:16:26 AM
Enjoyed last night, I thought Ajax hardly posed a threat thoughout the game that's probably why their fans were so quiet most of the night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 10:21:40 AM
They didn't create anything apart from the clearance off the line in the last minute of the first half. Not one chance in the second half even in our normally vulnerable period.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 15, 2024, 10:23:59 AM
They didn't create anything apart from the clearance off the line in the last minute of the first half. Not one chance in the second half even in our normally vulnerable period.

I was thinking, the media always go on about Unai watching videos of opponents for hours on end before a match, but their coaching team clearly hadn’t watched any of our matches, as they didn’t seem to realise that in that period, applying even the slightest bit of extra pressure = goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 15, 2024, 10:28:57 AM
They didn't create anything apart from the clearance off the line in the last minute of the first half. Not one chance in the second half even in our normally vulnerable period.

I was thinking, the media always go on about Unai watching videos of opponents for hours on end before a match, but their coaching team clearly hadn’t watched any of our matches, as they didn’t seem to realise that in that period, applying even the slightest bit of extra pressure = goal.

David Moyes will be well aware.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on March 15, 2024, 10:36:54 AM
I can see a certain someone putting pressure on him to create more of an atmosphere if he wants to keep doing it...

He will soon be letting customers know what merch is available in the concession stands.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on March 15, 2024, 10:45:40 AM
I thought the co-commentator on TNT was very good, seemed to know alot about us. Don't know who she was.

Yes she was really good. Definitely the best commentator I’ve heard this season.

I don’t usually notice the commentary but she came across very well. Either well researched or maybe has an interest in the club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 15, 2024, 10:52:42 AM
I thought the co-commentator on TNT was very good, seemed to know alot about us. Don't know who she was.

Yes she was really good. Definitely the best commentator I’ve heard this season.

I don’t usually notice the commentary but she came across very well. Either well researched or maybe has an interest in the club.


She’s done her research. She’s worked a lot as a coach in the men’s game, she knows her stuff.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 15, 2024, 10:58:14 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

Indeed.

I know the Poles played up but am I the only one a little bit embarrassed about how the visiting fans have been treated in this competition. My walk takes me past Witton station and I'd guess there was a Policeman for every visiting fan. It looked like they were preparing for armageddon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 15, 2024, 11:00:30 AM
They didn't create anything apart from the clearance off the line in the last minute of the first half. Not one chance in the second half even in our normally vulnerable period.

...which looked like it was going wide anyway
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 15, 2024, 11:01:47 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

It was announced before the game that home fans should not use Witton Station and that they should only use Aston Station
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: mamuu on March 15, 2024, 11:07:57 AM
True, but supporters directed out of the DE and down Yew Tree Road weren't trying to get to Witton station - just out onto the road but were forced together into one queue for the station with the Ajax fans..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 15, 2024, 11:12:26 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

It was announced before the game that home fans should not use Witton Station and that they should only use Aston Station

It was 'suggested'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
They didn't create anything apart from the clearance off the line in the last minute of the first half. Not one chance in the second half even in our normally vulnerable period.

...which looked like it was going wide anyway

It was going to be close. Looked like it would have hit the post but could have bounced in or away after that. So I can see why Cash cleared AND why they counted it as on target.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on March 15, 2024, 11:28:55 AM
I thought the co-commentator on TNT was very good, seemed to know alot about us. Don't know who she was.

She is called Lucy Ward. I loved the way she kept reminding that little prick Ian Darke about our injuries every time he brought up fucking Spurs...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Olof's Beard on March 15, 2024, 11:29:10 AM
I thought the co-commentator on TNT was very good, seemed to know alot about us. Don't know who she was.

Yes she was really good. Definitely the best commentator I’ve heard this season.

I don’t usually notice the commentary but she came across very well. Either well researched or maybe has an interest in the club.


She’s done her research. She’s worked a lot as a coach in the men’s game, she knows her stuff.

Doing some research should be a minimum expectation but most of them don't bother. She did and knew her stuff, she is a cut above all of them.

There is an interview with Lawrenson doing the rounds today, he is whinging about being binned by the BBC for being white and 65. He could have helped himself by seeming vaguely enthusiastic about the sport and knowing a thing or two about any club that doesn't start in 'L' and end in ''The Mighty Reds YNWA''. At least his thatched roof hair has gone.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 15, 2024, 11:31:10 AM
He’s suckled on the BBC teat for nigh on 30 years the moaning Lancashire prick. Also he’s 65, just retire and let the youngsters have a go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 15, 2024, 11:33:58 AM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: DB on March 15, 2024, 11:35:31 AM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.

All he did was moan at the ref for 90+mins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pablo_picasso on March 15, 2024, 11:37:22 AM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.

All he did was moan at the ref for 90+mins

Must have forgot that he doesn't play for Liverpool anymore & officials don't give a fuck if you are a club just making up the numbers.

So it was delightful to see him with the boot on the other foot.

The massive bellend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 11:44:29 AM
There is an interview with Lawrenson doing the rounds today, he is whinging about being binned by the BBC for being white and 65. He could have helped himself by seeming vaguely enthusiastic about the sport and knowing a thing or two about any club that doesn't start in 'L' and end in ''The Mighty Reds YNWA''. At least his thatched roof hair has gone.

Can we remove the word filter for plop please? I'm not sure why it was even put on as why praise them?

As for Lawrenson, he has done the exact same interview in 2022, 2023 and 2024. Not once does he think he was dropped because he was shite. His replacement on the BBC predictions is that minority representation Chris Sutton, and you could argue who his replacement for MOTD is but for the Plop representative is now Murphy. Maybe now other teams were becoming part of the big six, they decided to expand away from Liverpool co-commentators only.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 15, 2024, 11:51:39 AM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.

Maybe, but Villa those fans in the Holte referring to him as 'Hendo' soured the bait.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 15, 2024, 11:52:48 AM
There is an interview with Lawrenson doing the rounds today, he is whinging about being binned by the BBC for being white and 65. He could have helped himself by seeming vaguely enthusiastic about the sport and knowing a thing or two about any club that doesn't start in 'L' and end in ''The Mighty Reds YNWA''. At least his thatched roof hair has gone.

Can we remove the word filter for plop please? I'm not sure why it was even put on as why praise them?


Plop is cringey, that's why it was brought in. Changing it to TMRYNWA was meant to discourage people using it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 15, 2024, 11:57:04 AM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.

All he did was moan at the ref for 90+mins


He really did didnt he,  for Englands sake I hope they dont take him
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on March 15, 2024, 11:58:25 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

It was announced before the game that home fans should not use Witton Station and that they should only use Aston Station

But those parked down Brookvale Road and all the associated car parks needed to be able to walk back. Especially as the car park I was in was closing at 11!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on March 15, 2024, 12:07:02 PM
A pleasant TV watch after Sunday!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 15, 2024, 12:12:22 PM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

It was announced before the game that home fans should not use Witton Station and that they should only use Aston Station

But those parked down Brookvale Road and all the associated car parks needed to be able to walk back. Especially as the car park I was in was closing at 11!

I usually park in the Marigold Car Park if I drive there. Glad I didn't on this occasion...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 15, 2024, 12:14:32 PM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.

All he did was moan at the ref for 90+mins


He really did didnt ,  for Englands sake I hope they dont take him

Doo-doo-dooo, Henderson's a wanker...

One greedy bastard...

Mmmm...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 15, 2024, 12:17:23 PM
Not a propos of anything, but did anyone cop that surreal moment around 50 mins IIRC when the whole crowd simultaneously went quiet? It was like someone had unplugged us all for a few seconds. You could hear the hum of the stadium's electrics
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on March 15, 2024, 12:18:20 PM
Not a propos of anything, but did anyone cop that surreal moment around 50 mins IIRC when the whole crowd simultaneously went quiet? It was like someone had unplugged us all for a few seconds. You could hear the hum of the stadium's electrics


those people eating crisps  !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 15, 2024, 12:21:01 PM
There is an interview with Lawrenson doing the rounds today, he is whinging about being binned by the BBC for being white and 65. He could have helped himself by seeming vaguely enthusiastic about the sport and knowing a thing or two about any club that doesn't start in 'L' and end in ''The Mighty Reds YNWA''. At least his thatched roof hair has gone.

Can we remove the word filter for plop please? I'm not sure why it was even put on as why praise them?


Plop is cringey, that's why it was brought in. Changing it to TMRYNWA was meant to discourage people using it.

'The Mighty Reds YNWA' is an incredibly childish term to use and as such allowing it back has my total unequivocal support.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 12:23:39 PM
There is an interview with Lawrenson doing the rounds today, he is whinging about being binned by the BBC for being white and 65. He could have helped himself by seeming vaguely enthusiastic about the sport and knowing a thing or two about any club that doesn't start in 'L' and end in ''The Mighty Reds YNWA''. At least his thatched roof hair has gone.

Can we remove the word filter for plop please? I'm not sure why it was even put on as why praise them?


Plop is cringey, that's why it was brought in. Changing it to TMRYNWA was meant to discourage people using it.

Well go the whole hog.

Citeh = "The best team in England and they won everything fair and square"
Spuds = "They deserve to win everything they can as such an example of a well run club"
Arse = "The loudest fans and best fairest manager. I hope they win the champions league"
Manure ="The best stadium is the Theatre Of Dreams and it is well named as they are a dream team".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 15, 2024, 12:26:36 PM
One problem about getting out last night was that there was an accident on Witton Road so that was blocked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dogtanian on March 15, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
The Athletic say it was McGinn who decided to swap ends.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on March 15, 2024, 12:38:07 PM
There is an interview with Lawrenson doing the rounds today, he is whinging about being binned by the BBC for being white and 65. He could have helped himself by seeming vaguely enthusiastic about the sport and knowing a thing or two about any club that doesn't start in 'L' and end in ''The Mighty Reds YNWA''. At least his thatched roof hair has gone.

Can we remove the word filter for plop please? I'm not sure why it was even put on as why praise them?


Plop is cringey, that's why it was brought in. Changing it to TMRYNWA was meant to discourage people using it.

'The Mighty Reds YNWA' is an incredibly childish term to use and as such allowing it back has my total unequivocal support.

Fancy going out somewhere tonight, dear?

Nah, not really. To be honest I'd just rather 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' myself down on the sofa and watch telly...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 15, 2024, 12:40:10 PM
Lawrenson still gets 15-20 minutes every Friday on Today FM to preview the big games, usually with Big Cascarino or yer man from the Independent, Miguel Delaney.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on March 15, 2024, 12:40:55 PM
Shouldn't there be a pre-match Wham! thread by now? I don't dare start those things, the fall-out is brutal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 12:45:53 PM
Shouldn't there be a pre-match Wham! thread by now? I don't dare start those things, the fall-out is brutal.

DM Toronto, he should be waking up about now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 15, 2024, 12:48:13 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on March 15, 2024, 12:49:12 PM
The Athletic say it was McGinn who decided to swap ends.

Can't remember who kicked off. If they swapped us round we would have kicked off, and vice versa I guess
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: jon collett on March 15, 2024, 12:50:08 PM


I usually park in the Marigold Car Park if I drive there. Glad I didn't on this occasion...

That's where I was. I think its v good normally.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on March 15, 2024, 12:55:08 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

It was great, who wants any more time when the tie was over about an hour before?

There needs to be more of that sort of thing for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on March 15, 2024, 01:00:07 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

It was great, who wants any more time when the tie was over about an hour before?

There needs to be more of that sort of thing for me.

I think it's still the same but you wouldn't know these days but: 'the referee is the sole judge of time'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on March 15, 2024, 01:35:15 PM
It happened in the Chelsea FA cup match too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on March 15, 2024, 01:38:43 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

It was great, who wants any more time when the tie was over about an hour before?

There needs to be more of that sort of thing for me.

I think it's still the same but you wouldn't know these days but: 'the referee is the sole judge of time'.

Yep, I didn't mind it, but it still wasn't right. He can be the sole judge of time, but surely he has to judge it properly according to the rules, which don't appear to say he has discretion over how long to play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on March 15, 2024, 01:41:26 PM
The Athletic say it was McGinn who decided to swap ends.

Can't remember who kicked off. If they swapped us round we would have kicked off, and vice versa I guess
Ajax kicked off
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Towser on March 15, 2024, 01:49:22 PM
The Athletic say it was McGinn who decided to swap ends.
He did, if you watch when they tossed the coin, McGinn won and pointed towards the Holte then turned around to our players and signals the turnaround to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 15, 2024, 02:05:36 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

5 mins at the end of the first half must also have been well short of the actual lost time
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 15, 2024, 02:07:23 PM
The Athletic say it was McGinn who decided to swap ends.

Which made sense given the attacking nature of the starting XI.
Up and at 'em and all that
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on March 15, 2024, 02:50:54 PM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.

All he did was moan at the ref for 90+mins


He really did didnt he,  for Englands sake I hope they dont take him

A competent England coach would see that he has gone from Premier League to a Pro-Am league to a league & a team akin to the Championship but as we have Southgate you know that he will go to Euros and be played
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on March 15, 2024, 02:55:20 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

Thought exactly the same, wasnt complaining as we had declared and the only thing that could have happened at that point was an injury but it did feel wierd when the clock went to 90 and the whistle went.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 15, 2024, 02:57:16 PM
Henderson's was a strange performance, the rest of the team seem to hold him in the highest esteem and give him the ball every single time, even though he had precisely fuck all influence on the game. You'd have thought that anyone in their team with a bit of experience and gravitas would have told him to get off the toes of his own centre backs. Glad he played though as baiting him passed a bit of time when the game as a contest had died.

Henderson at his best was kind of an all action midfielder. But it was clear as day at the end of his time with Liverpool that his legs were gone. Bar clapping his hands every time we strolled past him to have a shot, he really was utterly anonymous. He's probably a decent sort to have around the England squad but he would be lost against any sort of decent opposition.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 02:58:07 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

Thought exactly the same, wasnt complaining as we had declared and the only thing that could have happened at that point was an injury but it did feel wierd when the clock went to 90 and the whistle went.

At least this European ref waited to 90 mins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on March 15, 2024, 03:24:47 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

It was great, who wants any more time when the tie was over about an hour before?

There needs to be more of that sort of thing for me.

I think it's still the same but you wouldn't know these days but: 'the referee is the sole judge of time'.

Yep, I didn't mind it, but it still wasn't right. He can be the sole judge of time, but surely he has to judge it properly according to the rules, which don't appear to say he has discretion over how long to play.

In knockout comps, the ref can finish without all the added time if the losing team agree to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on March 15, 2024, 03:25:43 PM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

It was announced before the game that home fans should not use Witton Station and that they should only use Aston Station

But those parked down Brookvale Road and all the associated car parks needed to be able to walk back. Especially as the car park I was in was closing at 11!

I usually park in the Marigold Car Park if I drive there. Glad I didn't on this occasion...

Do the spaces fit like a glove?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on March 15, 2024, 03:29:49 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.
It's not a rule and totally discretionary between Ref and the losing captain in a knockout tie. Can not be done in League match. It's the equivalent of the handshake in a no result cricket match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: astonvilla82 on March 15, 2024, 03:44:37 PM
Give credit to the Ajax support, very supportive of there team
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Drummond on March 15, 2024, 04:52:50 PM
Give credit to the Ajax support, very supportive of there team

I see what you did their.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on March 15, 2024, 05:55:21 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

It was great, who wants any more time when the tie was over about an hour before?

There needs to be more of that sort of thing for me.

I think it's still the same but you wouldn't know these days but: 'the referee is the sole judge of time'.

Yep, I didn't mind it, but it still wasn't right. He can be the sole judge of time, but surely he has to judge it properly according to the rules, which don't appear to say he has discretion over how long to play.

In knockout comps, the ref can finish without all the added time if the losing team agree to it.
I can't believe I've never heard of that. Makes sense though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nunkin1965 on March 15, 2024, 06:08:22 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

It was great, who wants any more time when the tie was over about an hour before?

There needs to be more of that sort of thing for me.

I think it's still the same but you wouldn't know these days but: 'the referee is the sole judge of time'.

Yep, I didn't mind it, but it still wasn't right. He can be the sole judge of time, but surely he has to judge it properly according to the rules, which don't appear to say he has discretion over how long to play.

In knockout comps, the ref can finish without all the added time if the losing team agree to it.
I can't believe ice never heard of that. Makes sense though.
Never realised this was a thing.
Was wondering why there were about 12 seconds added. I mean we even had the stretcher bearers on for the first time since I don't know when and what seemed like 10 substitutions!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 06:26:24 PM
I'm assuming the stretcher was for Watkins and that was first half if it was.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on March 15, 2024, 06:29:53 PM
I'm assuming the stretcher was for Watkins and that was first half if it was.

Nah they came on for their player who went down on the edge of the area when Duran scored.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on March 15, 2024, 06:32:04 PM
I'm assuming the stretcher was for Watkins and that was first half if it was.

Nah they came on for their player who went down on the edge of the area when Duran scored.

Good job he did go down otherwise it would have been a hearse needed if it hit him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bent Neilsens Screamer on March 15, 2024, 06:37:53 PM
I'm assuming the stretcher was for Watkins and that was first half if it was.

Nah they came on for their player who went down on the edge of the area when Duran scored.

Good job he did go down otherwise it would have been a hearse needed if it hit him.

Indeed, a proper howitzer!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on March 15, 2024, 07:05:05 PM
Good performance and great win we needed that

That’s what you get when you set up properly and play attacking front foot football and not come out waving white flags setting up defensively to contain the opposition like last Sunday

MOTM could have been one of six or seven players
Same again on Sunday please Unai
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on March 15, 2024, 07:11:15 PM
Why was their no added time second half yesterday? Somebody suggested that a losing team can ask for there not to be any, but surely that can't really be a rule? The length of the half is 45 minutes, and the ref has to add on time lost for injuries and substitutions etc, according to the laws of the game.

It was great, who wants any more time when the tie was over about an hour before?

There needs to be more of that sort of thing for me.

I think it's still the same but you wouldn't know these days but: 'the referee is the sole judge of time'.

Yep, I didn't mind it, but it still wasn't right. He can be the sole judge of time, but surely he has to judge it properly according to the rules, which don't appear to say he has discretion over how long to play.

Timekeeping by the referee fully explained Here (https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-7---the-duration-of-the-match#:~:text=The%20referee%20must%20not%20compensate,length%20of%20the%20second%20half.&text=If%20a%20penalty%20kick%20has,the%20penalty%20kick%20is%20completed.)

Where it says time may be shortened etc, that is if it agreed between the two teams prior to kick off, eg in the case of a kick off being delayed and if the referee feels that there wouldn't be sufficient daylight to complete the fixture time may be reduced, I'm not 100% sure but there's something in the back of my head that says the minium that it may be reduced by is 15 minutes per half, this would also have to conform to the local County FA and competition rules.  This obviously applies to grassroots football as there would be no floodlights.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on March 15, 2024, 09:35:23 PM
Good performance and great win we needed that

That’s what you get when you set up properly and play attacking front foot football and not come out waving white flags setting up defensively to contain the opposition like last Sunday

MOTM could have been one of six or seven players
Same again on Sunday please Unai
McGinn was motm by a country mile imo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on March 15, 2024, 09:44:23 PM
Good performance and great win we needed that

That’s what you get when you set up properly and play attacking front foot football and not come out waving white flags setting up defensively to contain the opposition like last Sunday

MOTM could have been one of six or seven players
Same again on Sunday please Unai
McGinn was motm by a country mile imo.

Wouldn’t disagree I would go with that
But there were a few other good performances from others

Pao for me is already in the top 3 central defenders in the prem and had another Rolls Royce show yesterday
apart from the goalkeeper I think he’s the best quality player we have, he could play for any team in the world that’s why making champs league is important because he’ll be hot property
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 15, 2024, 10:22:13 PM
The Athletic say it was McGinn who decided to swap ends.

Yep. He won the toss and indicated as much when the ref asked him what he wanted to do. Was this being debated anywhere here?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on March 15, 2024, 10:36:51 PM
MOTM is between Pao and Rodgers for.me
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 15, 2024, 10:49:04 PM
MOTM is between Pao and Rodgers for.me

They played well but MacGinn was my MOTM.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on March 15, 2024, 11:14:17 PM
MOTM is between Pao and Rodgers for.me
I wasn't impressed by either of them, very anonymous almost invisible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on March 15, 2024, 11:16:09 PM
The Athletic say it was McGinn who decided to swap ends.

Can't remember who kicked off. If they swapped us round we would have kicked off, and vice versa I guess
We kicked off so obviously our captain decided to attack HE FH.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on March 16, 2024, 06:51:48 AM
The translated view from Holland, from Algemeen Dagblad:-

Ajax's disastrous season gets a new chapter with a defeat at Aston Villa in the Conference League

A dramatic Ajax ended the disastrous season in European context in complete 'style'. Due to four goals conceded, a red card and three injuries, the team from Amsterdam ended up with a shameful score against Aston Villa: 4-0.


About 2,100 Ajax fans travel back to the Netherlands after yet another poor performance by their club, knowing that they have nothing to look forward to this season, but only something to fear. The number five of the Eredivisie kept pace with the number four of the Premier League at the swirling Villa Park, but after a disastrous second half, they have to take even more serious account of an annoying barrage in the form of play-offs at the end. of the season.

This was also seen by Alex Kroes, the new general manager who, a few hours before his official first working day started, was able to see not on a screen but from an English stadium how far his club had slipped in terms of sport. If he wrote down action points, one sheet of paper would not have been enough for him. It is possible to note down names that can still be used after this season to help shape a new successful team.


In summary, Kroes must provide a team that will have killer instinct on both sides. And not, as was the case for almost a year and a half, only for the enemy's goal, or as was the case in the 5-4-1 formation, only for our own goal. But just like against Fortuna Sittard, that defensive stability also turned out to be short-lived.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: HolteL4 on March 16, 2024, 09:59:16 AM
Bloody hell you miserable bunch 😂

They just trying to build up atmosphere. Itw as really poor esp in 1st half tbh

I didn't mind the yipiee bit, but as been said the darts like nicknames was cringeworthy. Also if they want to build the atmosphere pre match start with turning the bloody music down
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: HolteL4 on March 16, 2024, 10:02:51 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

To be fair to West Midlands finest there was repeated announcements during the game that Witton was for Ajax fans and for Villa fans to use Aston.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 16, 2024, 10:12:32 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

To be fair to West Midlands finest there was repeated announcements during the game that Witton was for Ajax fans and for Villa fans to use Aston.

Which made getting on at Witton a lot easier for those who took no notice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on March 16, 2024, 10:45:37 AM
The Witton Lane side was closed so all home fans had to leave via Trinity Rd side, it was heaving in the Holte Car Park.

bizarre foot traffic management from West Midland's finest. Directed those in the Doug Ellis down Yew Tree Road then blocked the bottom of the road and tried to filter everyone into Witton Station - most of which were Ajax. They then had to let the Villa fans climb over the front of the police vans to get into Witton Road to get away. Could of turned ugly if the Ajax lot had been so minded - luckily they weren't and everyone just moaned about how bad it was.

To be fair to West Midlands finest there was repeated announcements during the game that Witton was for Ajax fans and for Villa fans to use Aston.

Which made getting on at Witton a lot easier for those who took no notice.

What a scamp.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on March 16, 2024, 04:15:51 PM
With the caveat that you can only play whats in front of you, we played well but they were a poor side i thought. I've got a load of respect for Dutch football but that was a poor representative of it. Cruyff must be turning in his grave. Jhon Duran reminds me of that twat at Liverpool - if he ever learns to calm the fuck down in front of goal he could be some player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Ajax - Post-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on March 16, 2024, 04:21:55 PM
‘That twat at Liverpool’ could be referring to most of their squad and management. Can you narrow it down?
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