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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PaulWinch again on January 31, 2024, 04:14:43 PM
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In an effort to buck the recent trend thought I’d start this.
Really need a big improvement and a win here.
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They'll sit deep and we'll struggle to break them down, our possession stats will look nice though. 0-0.
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I'm worried about this one.
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Why is the turn-around in playing these bozos again, so soon?
Don't Serie A and La Liga do things "properly" (i.e Matchday 1 is reversed on Matchday 20; the last team you play in the league on game 19, you play the corresponding game on the last day of the sason etc.)?
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In an effort to buck the recent trend thought I’d start this.
Really need a big improvement and a win here.
We need a poll, Paul.
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I'm worried about this one.
You might need to hide-out in Catcliffe for a while in case we lose.
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Back to a stand up and be counted approach and we win. Whether such an approach materialises God only knows.
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In an effort to buck the recent trend thought I’d start this.
Really need a big improvement and a win here.
We need a poll, Paul.
Done.
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Think we will get out fought here and you know who will score against us again
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We are winning this. No fucking around. They’re shit and we’re lucky to get the result they did. We wuz robbed with the Ollie push, the second phase goal disallowed and the handball. Do fuck them and everyone else. A new win streak starts this weekend. Stick me down for 3-1 Tom. Archer for them.
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I think we will get a good kicking.
Not looking forward to this.
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Hopefully we'll come out swinging.
I'd bring Bailey in for Diaby, but otherwise go with the same lineup as Newcastle. I prefer Konsa at Centre back and therefore Cash plays. Ramsey and Zaniolo are offering nothing, so I'd rather try to play Tielemans back into form (at 10 with Bailey right and McGinn left).
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Them 7 Us -2
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2-0 Villa. Bailey and Watkins.
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In an effort to buck the recent trend thought I’d start this.
Really need a big improvement and a win here.
When is the match? What time is the kick off? ;)
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Sheffield need a win, here come the Villa to provide the necessary ingredients. All clubs needing a turn around in fortunes, please queue here!
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3-0 to Villa, as they feel our wrath after recent frustrations.
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I don’t know if it’s a confidence thing, or the absences have disrupted things, or a combination of both. But we’re starting games very passively at the moment - we really need to be front footed and assertive in this game.
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In an effort to buck the recent trend thought I’d start this.
Really need a big improvement and a win here.
When is the match? What time is the kick off? ;)
Answer the man!
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3-0 to Villa, as they feel our wrath after recent frustrations.
Yes!! Thats the score for this one….Watkins (2), Bailey.
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We all know how this will go.
Sheffield united will sit in and frustrate us and we will slowly play around with the ball without creating anything and United will kick it over the top and score.
I'm all for Emery's ideal of controlling the game but when we have control we have to move the ball quicker and with purpose.
Bailey must start.
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Maybe a switch to 4231 or some variation of it required. Bailey will come in for Diaby anyway. Ramsey and Carlos might. Just hope we see something different tactically and a number of players getting their horror show efforts against Newcastle out of their systems.
--------Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Carlos, Moreno
-------Luiz, Kamara
McGinn, Tielemans, Bailey
---------Watkins
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1-0
Ollie
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3-1 to Villa. They're rubbish and will certainly get relegated.
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3-0 to Villa, as they feel our wrath after recent frustrations.
Agree. They need points desperately now and can't sit back for a draw. We will rip them apart this time.
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I see it’s on Sky, 5:30 Saturday.
Would love a dominating goal fest but am not feeling that we are quite at the races so 2-2
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We need to turn the corner now.
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Lots of folks seemingly conceding already. I get why but I think it’s too early for that. Especially when we play these chumps next. We will win and convincingly I’m sure of it. Still a long way to go yet.
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Are the players up for a fight, we are about to find out
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Not a lot of confidence of anything here given our awful record there and current point a game form. They're an abysmal side for sure, but this whole thing (as others have said) feels very wheels come off 2009 and 2010. To go out of the cup and get beaten by bottom of the league shite feels very on brand for the Villa.
No Torres and we can't play out from the back without him. Insipid off the ball, the double box the the other night just allowed Gordon to murder us and Newcastle to generally bypass us wide/high, with us having no intention of getting close to stopping the source. It was an utterly pathetic and abominable performance. Not one easily recovered from when you've laboured against Sheffield United, Everton, Chelsea, Burnley previously and even spurned a 2 goal lead. Champions League is fading off into the distance of "what might have been".
A disappointing 2nd half of the season to likely get even more disappointing, as we won't change how we play. They're overly physical and our best hope is for Championship football of who makes the first mistake.
Bailey has to start. I don't care how injured he is. Any sort of win will do, anything less is horrific. Horrific I suspect it shall be. Farewell 2023, you were good. Hello 2024 and return to upper midtable.
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Carlos
Moreno
McGinn
Luiz
Kamara
Bailey
Tielemans
Watkins
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Ads, I'd go with that team but I don't agree with your (very unusually!) lugubrious assessment. There were times the other day where it came together, so we know it still can. It's not all lost, we can absolutely turn it around with one win. We don't look as bad as Spurs did during their bleak spell, for instance, where they were creative but defensively resembled the moment when a medieval siege is broken and all hell is loosed. Maybe it'll just take one win.
And what I do know is that we fucking owe these dream-cucking fuckers. Let's do 'em.
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For the second game running I agree with your team selection exactly Ads. I also think that Emery will stick with Lenglet and Diaby though.
2-1 Sheff U.
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Ollie McBurnley terrorising Lenglet , what a Saturday tee-time we have in store folks. And it's Live.... (i hope it's not that ****** Tyler doing it)
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Can someone replace the doom-filled Ads with the usual, more bullish version?
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2-1 Richardson and winner from.... let's say Fenton
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2-0, Garry Parker with two humdingers
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Not looking forward to this and I have the same fears as Ads. I also agree with the team selection although I would understand if he plays Konsa at RB Because Cash has gone from assassin to clown car driver.
We need a big performance to regain momentum but I am not convinced we will get that.
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Not looking forward to this and I have the same fears as Ads. I also agree with the team selection although I would understand if he plays Konsa at RB Because Cash has gone from assassin to clown car driver.
We need a big performance to regain momentum but I am not convinced we will get that.
No way to Konsa at RB. Cash had a strong game at Chelsea and can get back on track against the worst team in the division.
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1-3 fuckers fucked. No messing. UTV!
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Bailey has to play, even if it means McPhee has to push him round the pitch in a wheelchair for 90 minutes.
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1-2 - Lenglet winner in the last minute.
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Bailey will play and score and we'll win
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If Diaby starts then things will get a tad worrisome.
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0-1 (Rogers, 89)
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If Diaby starts then things will get a tad worrisome.
needs dropping
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If Diaby starts then things will get a tad worrisome.
If Diaby starts then we'd be seeing a stubborn side to Unai that we've seen in previous Villa managers. He doesn't deserve to start and shouldn't.
I'm still remembering our 1-0 defeat last time we played them at their place and what an undercooked performance it was. Hoping we don't go down the same hole.
1-1.
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I can see us getting back to winning ways with a 2-0 win.
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archer is nailed on to score
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I'm planning on having chinese takeaway after the game, but we don't have any Chinese players, so not sure it's a sign. Unless we have one who looks like a chicken ball, in which case I fancy them to score!
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I'm not sure what they'll do, they've chopped and changed a bit up front.
I think we will see the following...
Martinez
Konsa. Carlos. Lenglet. Moreno
Kamara. Luiz
McGinn
Bailey
Diaby. Watkins
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archer is nailed on to score
Nah he’s already done that.
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archer is nailed on to score
Nah he’s already done that.
would not surprsie me in the least if he does it again . It's kind of a fate
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Haven't seen the form table lately but I doubt our form is that much better than theirs. We just have to win this one though. 1-2 to us.
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Haven't seen the form table lately but I doubt our form is that much better than theirs. We just have to win this one though. 1-2 to us.
them : 2 points from 15
us : 5 points from 15
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Haven't seen the form table lately but I doubt our form is that much better than theirs. We just have to win this one though. 1-2 to us.
them : 2 points from 15
us : 5 points from 15
Not a whole lot in it then. Plus they seem to remembered where the net is in their last few games so we have to improve defensively. Not too confident about this one.
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i'm never confident when Lenglet plays
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Lenglet is a liability, particularly when playing such a high line as he is soooooo slow. I dont fancy him in any 50/50's and would much prefer Carlos for this one as it's going to be physical.
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1 win in 5 against these and only 2 goals scored.
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archer is nailed on to score
Nah he’s already done that.
Indeed. A lot of moping about today. We’re a really good side having a bit of a crap run. It’ll come good again and we have zero to fear from Sheffield Utd.
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I'm not sure where Chris Wilder is going with his criticising of perceived bias from officials.
From what I've seen Sheffield United have had plenty of decisions going their way. We should have a clear penalty in the home fixture, you could actually argue 2 of them. How on earth they got a penalty against West Ham I will never know.
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I'm not sure where Chris Wilder is going with his criticising of perceived bias from officials.
From what I've seen Sheffield United have had plenty of decisions going their way. We should have a clear penalty in the home fixture, you could actually argue 2 of them. How on earth they got a penalty against West Ham I will never know.
West Ham were denied a blatant pen at the end of that game too
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Torres trained today.
Updated team;
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Moreno
McGinn
Luiz
Kamara
Bailey
Tielemans
Watkins
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Please god let him be back.
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I'm not sure where Chris Wilder is going with his criticising of perceived bias from officials.
From what I've seen Sheffield United have had plenty of decisions going their way. We should have a clear penalty in the home fixture, you could actually argue 2 of them. How on earth they got a penalty against West Ham I will never know.
West Ham were denied a blatant pen at the end of that game too
I had forgot that one on Bowen.
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Please god let him be back.
And lo, on the seventh day, God created Pau.
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I'm not sure where Chris Wilder is going with his criticising of perceived bias from officials.
From what I've seen Sheffield United have had plenty of decisions going their way. We should have a clear penalty in the home fixture, you could actually argue 2 of them. How on earth they got a penalty against West Ham I will never know.
West Ham were denied a blatant pen at the end of that game too
I had forgot that one on Bowen.
Yes a blatant two handed rugby tackle right in front of the Ref too
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It’s pretty obvious right? He’s trying to get that thought in the ref’s head, so that it might be a factor if there’s a 50/50 call.
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I keep saying it, but getting on the front foot and scoring early is absolutely vital for us. We really need an early goal in this game, because if they have to open up we’ll be able to play through them.
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I think it would have been a useful move to have taken Ben Brereton Díaz on loan. Emery would really mould him. Why only Sheffield Utd took him beats me?
I recall when he gave us quite a game performance in the championship when a young player at Forest
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He's Ch'ship standard, barely got a look-in at Villareal.
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Tottenham, Newcastle, Man United all winning, we simply have to beat these. Wilder seemed beyond rattled in those interviews, utterly deluded.
Diaby won't start, that would be MON levels of stubbornness from Emery if he does.
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They're the worst team in the league so the ideal game to bounce back, right?
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Tottenham, Newcastle, Man United all winning, we simply have to beat these. Wilder seemed beyond rattled in those interviews, utterly deluded.
Diaby won't start, that would be MON levels of stubbornness from Emery if he does.
Think we will see his stubborn side .
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Is it stubborn though? I thought I heard Bailey has some back pain, hence him not starting.
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Is it stubborn though? I thought I heard Bailey has some back pain, hence him not starting.
It’s precisely what Emery said but it won’t fit the narrative.
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Ah, Tom Fox and his False Narratives. On the road in the mid-west at the moment apparently, the band are gelling well, ten nights into the tour.
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Maybe we're pretending Bailey is injured, same as we are with Duran.
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Is it stubborn though? I thought I heard Bailey has some back pain, hence him not starting.
It’s precisely what Emery said but it won’t fit the narrative.
No. He said that Bailey had a slight back issue before the Chelsea game, and then he (Emery) decided to start with the same team that started Chelsea. He didn't say that Bailey's still injured at all.
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Their manager is a fucking miserable twat. For this reason, I'd like us to win.
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I'd be very surprised if Bailey doesn't start. Then we have the option of the Rogers wild-card from the bench - if he can't do 90 minutes. Diaby needs a rest, or a run at a tired defence when we're a couple of goals to the good to get his confidence back.
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I’d like us to win, because we really need to fucking win. We were so desperately poor, and weirdly for an Emery side looked unprepared and disorganised, on Tuesday. Hopefully that was the culmination of our ropey form and this is the start of the recovery. We absolutely must show much more intent.
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Time to come to the party lads.
Big win please.
Their manager looks like he's swallowed a wasps nest.
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SU are 17/4 to win. I've got my usual £20 on. This proved to be a very expensive strategy during 2023. I'd like that to continue in 2024, please.
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Torres coming back could be massive
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Bailey must start, even if he is not fit to play 90 minutes (which we don't know).
As mentioned before, we need to take an early lead against this lot to make the game more open. Bailey is more likely to assist/score than Diaby.
Up our tempo from the first minute, match their intensity and our extra quality should shine through.
0-3 the villa. Watkins (2) and Bailey.
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My optimism has all but run out so I fear this one. Not on any considered football ability or the relative strengths of either side but from a "this team are a pain in the arse and the managers a wanker" perspective. I've predicted wins and been wrong just lately. Hope I'm wrong again.
2-0
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All teams, apart from those challenging for the title, go through downturns in form. Unfortunately, we are not yet ready to seriously challenge for the title and we have to get out of this rut of form (as Spurs have done recently) and get back to form that keeps us challenging for the top 5 or so. Losing the left side of our defense has left us a lot more vulnerable and teams seemed to have sussed us out a bit. But these things happen, time to get back on track.
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Maybe a switch to 4231 or some variation of it required. Bailey will come in for Diaby anyway. Ramsey and Carlos might. Just hope we see something different tactically and a number of players getting their horror show efforts against Newcastle out of their systems.
--------Martinez
Cash, Konsa, Carlos, Moreno
-------Luiz, Kamara
McGinn, Tielemans, Bailey
---------Watkins
This is how I'd go as well.
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Torres coming back could be massive
Is he back? I've not seen anything on this.
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Any idea how long Digne is out for?
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Torres coming back could be massive
Is he back? I've not seen anything on this.
Somebody on here said yesterday he was back in training
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All this stuff about teams sussing us out... I get where that thought comes from, but do we not think teams know exactly how Liverpool or Man City or Arsenal play. Because they play the same way all the time. It's one thing knowing how a team plays and quite another stopping it.
Our form has been a mixture of certain players being injured (Torres) and others playing below par (Diaby), plus some shit luck with decisions / marginal offsides.
We are still a really really good side and we will challenge all the way through to the end of this season in a way MONs Villa just couldn't do.
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Bailey must start, even if he is not fit to play 90 minutes (which we don't know).
As mentioned before, we need to take an early lead against this lot to make the game more open. Bailey is more likely to assist/score than Diaby.
Up our tempo from the first minute, match their intensity and our extra quality should shine through.
0-3 the villa. Watkins (2) and Bailey.
i would keep Bailey out and throw on after 60 mins
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Bailey must start, even if he is not fit to play 90 minutes (which we don't know).
As mentioned before, we need to take an early lead against this lot to make the game more open. Bailey is more likely to assist/score than Diaby.
Up our tempo from the first minute, match their intensity and our extra quality should shine through.
0-3 the villa. Watkins (2) and Bailey.
i would keep Bailey out and throw on after 60 mins
Weirdly, so would I if Bailey is injured. The last thing we need is to lose him for the rest of the season. But I wouldn't play Diaby.
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Bailey must start, even if he is not fit to play 90 minutes (which we don't know).
As mentioned before, we need to take an early lead against this lot to make the game more open. Bailey is more likely to assist/score than Diaby.
Up our tempo from the first minute, match their intensity and our extra quality should shine through.
0-3 the villa. Watkins (2) and Bailey.
i would keep Bailey out and throw on after 60 mins
Weirdly, so would I if Bailey is injured. The last thing we need is to lose him for the rest of the season. But I wouldn't play Diaby.
Agree Diaby don't deserve to play , i'd play Rogers. I'd keep Bailey as supersub and throw him on when their carthorses at the back are dragging their hooves
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All this stuff about teams sussing us out... I get where that thought comes from, but do we not think teams know exactly how Liverpool or Man City or Arsenal play. Because they play the same way all the time. It's one thing knowing how a team plays and quite another stopping it.
Our form has been a mixture of certain players being injured (Torres) and others playing below par (Diaby), plus some shit luck with decisions / marginal offsides.
We are still a really really good side and we will challenge all the way through to the end of this season in a way MONs Villa just couldn't do.
We'll see how they react in the coming games I suppose. It was embarrassingly easy for Howe on Tuesday though, and it was a Newcastle team with a 17 year old in it, and a non-entity like Longstaff. Torres is a miss of course, but all the vibrancy of our attacking play from earlier in the season has vanished. It was only really McGinn on Tuesday who was at anything like his normal levels. Well Diaby was I suppose, but I mean in a good way. Both Luiz and Kamara looked bog average, Moreno was dismal, so was Cash, and apart from the goal Watkins looked well off it as well.
When things aren't going right, like on Tuesday, like both games against Newcastle, like Liverpool and Man U away, we don't seem to be able to change things to any great degree.
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Kamara looked stoned on Tuesday, believe me I know what that looks like on a football pitch.
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Given Diaby's form and Leon not being 100% (and not great away from home), maybe putting Rodgers straight in could work. He'll be high on adrenaline and let's face it, it's the worst team in the top flight we're up against so their level won't be much higher than what he's been used to playing against in the Ch'ship.
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I'd go with that too, think we could do with a jolt of something different and he'll be bang up for it.
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Nah, he'll definitely start with Bailey.
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All this stuff about teams sussing us out... I get where that thought comes from, but do we not think teams know exactly how Liverpool or Man City or Arsenal play. Because they play the same way all the time. It's one thing knowing how a team plays and quite another stopping it.
Our form has been a mixture of certain players being injured (Torres) and others playing below par (Diaby), plus some shit luck with decisions / marginal offsides.
We are still a really really good side and we will challenge all the way through to the end of this season in a way MONs Villa just couldn't do.
We'll see how they react in the coming games I suppose. It was embarrassingly easy for Howe on Tuesday though, and it was a Newcastle team with a 17 year old in it, and a non-entity like Longstaff. Torres is a miss of course, but all the vibrancy of our attacking play from earlier in the season has vanished. It was only really McGinn on Tuesday who was at anything like his normal levels. Well Diaby was I suppose, but I mean in a good way. Both Luiz and Kamara looked bog average, Moreno was dismal, so was Cash, and apart from the goal Watkins looked well off it as well.
When things aren't going right, like on Tuesday, like both games against Newcastle, like Liverpool and Man U away, we don't seem to be able to change things to any great degree.
Agreed. That's really the difference between us and the teams above, Spurs aside - those teams have a greater number of top quality players than we do, albeit the gap is closing. When somebody is struggling a bit or is off on international duty, they bring somebody else in who is equally as good. We are almost there, but not quite.
It's not the system, or that we've been found out - teams have had a year to suss us out and only in the last month have we dropped points. I honestly believe that it's a simple case of having a smaller group of players (than our immediate rivals) who are top drawer, and some of the ones that are having a dip in form.
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Disagree on Spurs. Don't think they're any better anywhere on the park.
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I hope that's all it is Rigadon, and that we get back to winning ways quickly. We've been shite since the Arsenal match though, and aren't really showing any signs of improvement. Hope it's just a blip, but with Villa and being perpetually disappointed, who knows. One 5th place finish in nearly 30 years is shite though, I really did think this might be the year for something different. Hopefully it still will be.
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Disagree on Spurs. Don't think they're any better anywhere on the park.
Yes, agreed.
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I hope that's all it is Rigadon, and that we get back to winning ways quickly. We've been shite since the Arsenal match though, and aren't really showing any signs of improvement. Hope it's just a blip, but with Villa and being perpetually disappointed, who knows. One 5th place finish in nearly 30 years is shite though, I really did think this might be the year for something different. Hopefully it still will be.
Fingers crossed! I'm staying upbeat, but reserve the right to be bitterly pissed off on Sunday :D
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Disagree on Spurs. Don't think they're any better anywhere on the park.
In the forward positions? Son is a stupidly good player, plus they've got Richarlison and Maddison. Id' have Son over Watkins given the choice, and Maddison over Diaby or Tielemans.
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Maddison can suck my balls, the stupid little Cov div.
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I'm not sure where Chris Wilder is going with his criticising of perceived bias from officials.
From what I've seen Sheffield United have had plenty of decisions going their way. We should have a clear penalty in the home fixture, you could actually argue 2 of them. How on earth they got a penalty against West Ham I will never know.
A Liverpool fan's take on it.
Despite a great performance last night I’m still grieving the upcoming loss of Jurgen, just as much for his human qualities and lack of pretension as his ability to coach footballers
Then I noticed that Chris Wilder is having a moan about referees (which may well be justified - I don’t really pay attention to Sheffield United unless they are playing us) and the BBC is quoting him as complaining that, on entering the referees room to discuss an issue post match
"One of his assistants was eating a sandwich at the time, which I thought was a complete lack of respect. Hopefully he enjoyed his sandwich while he was talking to a Premier League manager."
It just brings home to you what a classy guy we are losing, and how many egotistical wankers there are in English football. Hodgson and Pardew spring to mind but there must be loads of other examples
I wish we had a classy, unassuming manager like Bingo. :(
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Disagree on Spurs. Don't think they're any better anywhere on the park.
In the forward positions? Son is a stupidly good player, plus they've got Richarlison and Maddison. Id' have Son over Watkins given the choice, and Maddison over Diaby or Tielemans.
Agree . Better full backs too or cetrainly Undogie / Porro better than we have
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All this stuff about teams sussing us out... I get where that thought comes from, but do we not think teams know exactly how Liverpool or Man City or Arsenal play. Because they play the same way all the time. It's one thing knowing how a team plays and quite another stopping it.
Our form has been a mixture of certain players being injured (Torres) and others playing below par (Diaby), plus some shit luck with decisions / marginal offsides.
We are still a really really good side and we will challenge all the way through to the end of this season in a way MONs Villa just couldn't do.
Those three teams have players of equal or near equality quality to come in. I don't think for example we should be playing anywhere near such an aggressive high defensive line with Carlos or Lenglet at the back. The risk just isn't worth the reward of a Torres stepping at ease into midfield with the ball. Those two aren't comfortable doing that.
There's nothing wrong with being a bit more pragmatic either, even during a game. From very early on it was clear Newcastle had us in serious problems with their counters down our wings. We were 11 points ahead of them pre game so we absolutely did not need to get into a basketball type game with them. Same at Old Trafford.
All we needed to do was bunker down for a bit and take the sting out of them. Emery rarely does that during a game and we have been fortunate at times (Chelsea in cup and was it Wolves last season) to keep a team scoreless in the first half. What kind of beggared belief really is that he waited until the 60th min to make any changes against Newcastle and the game was done by then.
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All this stuff about teams sussing us out... I get where that thought comes from, but do we not think teams know exactly how Liverpool or Man City or Arsenal play. Because they play the same way all the time. It's one thing knowing how a team plays and quite another stopping it.
Our form has been a mixture of certain players being injured (Torres) and others playing below par (Diaby), plus some shit luck with decisions / marginal offsides.
We are still a really really good side and we will challenge all the way through to the end of this season in a way MONs Villa just couldn't do.
Those three teams have players of equal or near equality quality to come in. I don't think for example we should be playing anywhere near such an aggressive high defensive line with Carlos or Lenglet at the back. The risk just isn't worth the reward of a Torres stepping at ease into midfield with the ball. Those two aren't comfortable doing that.
There's nothing wrong with being a bit more pragmatic either, even during a game. From very early on it was clear Newcastle had us in serious problems with their counters down our wings. We were 11 points ahead of them pre game so we absolutely did not need to get into a basketball type game with them. Same at Old Trafford.
All we needed to do was bunker down for a bit and take the sting out of them. Emery rarely does that during a game and we have been fortunate at times (Chelsea in cup and was it Wolves last season) to keep a team scoreless in the first half. What kind of beggared belief really is that he waited until the 60th min to make any changes against Newcastle and the game was done by then.
That's kind of my point - they have more strength in depth.
The Newcastle game (actually, both home and away) was disappointing and I was just a fucked off with us not changing personnel sooner. There must be a reason behind it that I don't understand because this manager is amazing and my knowledge of football tactics isn't. Their first two goals were from set pieces, one that we should've definitely defended better, the other they got a massive slice of luck with the ball hitting the bar and falling directly to one of their players. The third from a Matt Cash fuck up. So, 2 corners and a fuck up. No amount of 'shape' can counteract that stuff.
We have to get our defensive discipline and attacking zeal back. Do that, and team knowing how we play won't matter much.
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I'd start Zaniolo and Rogers to get stuck in, play them for 30 mins and then bring Bailey and Diaby on when they've roughed them up. 😁
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Also would like our players stop getting in petty confrontation with the opposition,, Douglas Luiz did it again against Newcastle, grab the ball and carry on,let the referee deal with it, apart from that it slows the game down
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Also would like our players stop getting in petty confrontation with the opposition,, Douglas Luiz did it again against Newcastle, grab the ball and carry on,let the referee deal with it, apart from that it slows the game down
I really liked big Ange's comments after the Spurs game the other night. He was having none of the ridiculous handbags. As he put it, if you think you're hard, sort it out in a UFC cage. If not, stop fucking around with the nonsensical pushing and shoving, it doesn't do the team any good.
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I'd start Zaniolo and Rogers to get stuck in, play them for 30 mins and then bring Bailey and Diaby on when they've roughed them up. 😁
And we're 3-0 down! Not sure how much roughing up Zaniolo would do lying on the ground for half an hour.
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Their kick off against us was probably the most embarrassingly shit, school boy level thing I've ever seen at Villa Park. Utter village. Let's Bury these ****** for fucks sake Villa.
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I'd start Zaniolo and Rogers to get stuck in, play them for 30 mins and then bring Bailey and Diaby on when they've roughed them up. 😁
And we're 3-0 down! Not sure how much roughing up Zaniolo would do lying on the ground for half an hour.
He would be too concerned about roughing up his new hairdo.
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Pau back training but won't feature.
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Pau back training but won't feature.
Pissflaps.
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No Zaniolo worldies this weekend. They will be missed.
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Pau back training but won't feature.
FFS I guess I should take the positive out of that.
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I reckon we're going to have another shit display here.
They'll get in our faces and we won't know what to do.
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Pau back training but won't feature.
Pissflaps.
Very annoying, but as I expected it to be March before he’d be back I’ll take it. It’s up to the other players to take some responsibility and play much better.
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No Zaniolo worldies this weekend. They will be missed.
another injury ?
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Apparently Zaniolo’s injury is just a small one. Translated from Villa speak that means his next appearance will be for Galatasaray next season!
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Apparently Zaniolo’s injury is just a small one. Translated from Villa speak that means his next appearance will be for Galatasaray next season!
RIP Nicolo
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Apparently Zaniolo’s injury is just a small one. Translated from Villa speak that means his next appearance will be for Galatasaray next season!
RIP Nicolo
Flowers sent.
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If we can’t be confident about beating the bottom of the league team who have only got 10 points, one of which was against us then we might as well forget all about top 4/5
We’ve got to be wafting them out of the way like other top teams do
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Sheff Utd's 10 points so far -
Everton H (2-2)
Wolves H (2-1)
Brighton A (1-1)
Brentford H (1-0)
Us A (1-1)
W Ham H (2-2)
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If we can’t be confident about beating the bottom of the league team who have only got 10 points, one of which was against us then we might as well forget all about top 4/5
We’ve got to be wafting them out of the way like other top teams do
We ought to be, but that kind of ignores how off form we’ve been of late. Hopefully this will be the game where the turnaround begins, but it we put in the level of performance we have in the last few games it’ll be a struggle.
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If we can’t be confident about beating the bottom of the league team who have only got 10 points, one of which was against us then we might as well forget all about top 4/5
We’ve got to be wafting them out of the way like other top teams do
We ought to be, but that kind of ignores how off form we’ve been of late. Hopefully this will be the game where the turnaround begins, but it we put in the level of performance we have in the last few games it’ll be a struggle.
I am not confident at all, our away form has not been great all season.
We must not concede first.
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At times when we are playing shit teams like Sheffield United I'm not sure Emery's style lends itself to a winning formula.
He's all about about controlling the game and keeping possession which Is what we all want, But Teams like Sheffield united will just constantly give us the ball back regardless if we really have a go.
I feel like we've lost the higher press somewhere which gives teams time to hoof it over our Defence who in turn cant play offside without Torres and Konsa playing centre back.
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the issue I think at the moment is either the build up from the back is too slow, so it gives teams a changce to gt everyone behind the ball, or the ball from the back, especially Martinez, gets hoofed up the pitch to no-one.
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Or too many times players in wide positions, I'll use cash as an example, receive the Ball advance 5 yards check and play it backwards . Then the slow predictable passing starts again .
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Or too many times players in wide positions, I'll use cash as an example, receive the Ball advance 5 yards check and play it backwards . Then the slow predictable passing starts again .
That really annoys the hell out of me.One of the midfielders will make a great pass or dribble only for it to end back in midfield again.
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When we last met Wilder had only just taken over and new manager bounce yada yada yada.
They might have had delusions of squirreling out 2-3 additional wins over the Christmas and New Year period to give them a fighting chance.
But the penny must have dropped by now that they are facked. If they ever doubted it. Anytime I've seen them recently they look like a beaten docket.
A messy 2-1 win to the Villa.
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Or too many times players in wide positions, I'll use cash as an example, receive the Ball advance 5 yards check and play it backwards . Then the slow predictable passing starts again .
The game of cat and mouse worked fine when Torres was around. Though there are definitely times we could and should mix it up too. We always look a better team when our midfielders get turned on the ball quickly.
Cash took the piss the other night, especially after Bailey came on. Bailey makes a run, Cash checks inside. Bailey comes short for a give and go, Cash delays the return so Bailey goes offside and Cash checks inside again.
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They are dirt, but can score. We're struggling to score. This is a risky tie.
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At times when we are playing shit teams like Sheffield United I'm not sure Emery's style lends itself to a winning formula.
He's all about about controlling the game and keeping possession which Is what we all want, But Teams like Sheffield united will just constantly give us the ball back regardless if we really have a go.
I feel like we've lost the higher press somewhere which gives teams time to hoof it over our Defence who in turn cant play offside without Torres and Konsa playing centre back.
Yeah, I thought that then we played Newcastle who are always going to come at us and play a bit and we were just a shit for the first hour
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Are we an excellent side in a slump of form, or are we merely a decent side that’s been over performing?
Well, the next few weeks will of course tell us. Anything but a win today against a really poor side and it’s starting to look like the latter scenario.
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if we win the physical battle then we'll create enough chances to win. Got to take them, though.
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1-2. Watkins and Rogers. Sean Bean for them.
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There is no excuse for any Premier League team not beating these. They are utterly shite. 4-1 Villa.
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They've signed Holgate, remember him? Jed Steer doesn't. They're likely going to revert to 352. Or more likely 532. Be an absolute grind this potentially.
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Right Villa players it’s time to bring your levels right back up again and respond - the last month of games has been weak. It’s time to step it back up, starting today with a big win.
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Wilder is one of archetypal British managers, of which there are many but he’s definitely right in that bracket
Shit football, all bluster and puffed out chests and the bloke whinges like no other He was moaning the other day about someone eating a sandwich
The man’s a first class tool
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When is Digne back?
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Sean Bean for them.
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Made me laugh
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Wilder is one of archetypal British managers, of which there are many but he’s definitely right in that bracket
Shit football, all bluster and puffed out chests and the bloke whinges like no other He was moaning the other day about someone eating a sandwich
The man’s a first class tool
was up at Bramall couple years back for our game (Snodgrass game) we were in the bar after the game and in walks Wilder with his Mrs (she's pretty fit in fairness) still in his tracksuit and stands at the end of the bar just like a normal bloke drinking pints of lager for a couple of hours .
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And probably gobbing off about "lefties" and "do gooders" the fucking dickhead.
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Wilder is one of archetypal British managers, of which there are many but he’s definitely right in that bracket
Shit football, all bluster and puffed out chests and the bloke whinges like no other He was moaning the other day about someone eating a sandwich
The man’s a first class tool
Yep, he had one good idea with the centre-backs getting forward and people started to treat him like a tactical mastermind. Once that got sussed out we were able to see how he responded - and how he responded was very meat and potatoes.
That can still do the job though. We need to be much better than we have been today. They'll be physical and stubborn and we need to be the same.
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First goal in first 10-15 minutes and we batter them, otherwise could be drawn out slog
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They'll won't play any differently to how they did at Villa Park. They'll try to shut us out & snatch a goal on the break or from a set piece. They certainly won't give it a go.
Bailey, Carlos & Ramsey to start in place of Diaby, Cash & Tielemans.
If we get an early goal, they could fall apart.
If we concede first it will be tough going.
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They'll won't play any differently to how they did at Villa Park. They'll try to shut us out & snatch a goal on the break or from a set piece. They certainly won't give it a go.
Bailey, Carlos & Ramsey to start in place of Diaby, Cash & Tielemans.
If we get an early goal, they could fall apart.
If we concede first it will be tough going.
0-2 win.
Martinez
Cash, Carlos, Konsa, Lenglet, Moreno
McGinn, Kamara, Luiz,
Bailey Watkins
Watkins has never scored v Sheffield United but I think he could score along with Mc Ginn.
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I read the ref is Paul Tierney. This is the tenth time he has covered our games and we have yet to win one. Gulp.
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Right Villa players it’s time to bring your levels right back up again and respond - the last month of games has been weak. It’s time to step it back up, starting today with a big win.
Yeah, this feels like this is quite a big point in the season. Following this, we've got Man Utd and Forest at home and Fulham and Luton away in the league. Not easy, but the kind of games we could get a good return from if we're playing well. A good return from today and those four games, should see us consolidate our top 5 position.
Just need a good win and performance today to get us going.
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Right Villa players it’s time to bring your levels right back up again and respond - the last month of games has been weak. It’s time to step it back up, starting today with a big win.
Yeah, this feels like this is quite a big point in the season. Following this, we've got Man Utd and Forest at home and Fulham and Luton away in the league. Not easy, but the kind of games we could get a good return from if we're playing well. A good return from today and those four games, should see us consolidate our top 5 position.
Just need a good win and performance today to get us going.
Easier said than done !
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I read the ref is Paul Tierney. This is the tenth time he has covered our games and we have yet to win one. Gulp.
He is no friend of The Villa.
Another dodgy incompetent twat.
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Another loss incoming, I think.
You can't play a high line with Lenglet. Spurs learned that the hard way last season.
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Blades keeper looks a bit fragile.
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Wrong thread (again!).
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This game's suddenly got more important. Unfortunately, we've been presented with plenty of opportunities in the last month and a bit which we've flubbed like a drunk actor. Come on Villa, break the pattern.
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Well, with Everton getting a last-gasp draw with Spurs, we have all the incentive we need. A win and back into the top four - come on!
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Wrong thread (again!).
what?
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Did you not just change that from "Spurs keeper" ?!
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Massive game.
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Bigly.
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Just win Villa.
By hook, crook or goal line technology failure
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Massive game.
HUUUUUUUGGGGEEEEEIIIOOOOOOOO
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Luton shining a light in how poor we were against Newcastle. We really need to turn up, and score some bloody goals.
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Did you not just change that from "Spurs keeper" ?!
Might have ;)
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Ha! Was wondering if I was imagining things.
Scores going for us today so far. Come on boys, please turn-up.
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Cash and Diaby out. Diego and Bailey in