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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on January 14, 2024, 01:00:18 PM
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No Ramsey in the squad?
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no Ramsey
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Gutted no Torres.
This will be tougher than first thought. Good to see Tielemans on bench
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Anyone know why Ramsey's not involved?
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No Ramsey or Pau.
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i think we look a bit lightweight for this game.
No Ramsey Torres is a blow.
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Anyone know why Ramsey's not involved?
Fingers crossed its just illness.
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Ramsey absent even from the bench is very worrying.
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Ramsey's been off it, maybe he's still carrying something. No Torres, man, that's rough.
Tielemans back on the bench though! And hopefully Kamara and Luiz together will be a boost.
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According to the two Villa reporters, Jack Tanswell and John Townley, both Ramsey and Pau are injured
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Pau being out is a massive blow. Confidence is pretty low here, come on Villa big performance.
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Still doesn't trust Matty Cash
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No Pau or Ramsey a big concern.
Meanwhile the sky wankathon starts with a live visit to the manure dressing room. They'll be covered in jiz by 4pm.
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Expecting hours of Sky Sports news featuring our injury problems.
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Was hoping Torres would at least be on the bench. Won't be easy, I'd take a scrappy 1-0 win.
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No Pau or Ramsey a big concern.
Meanwhile the sky wankathon starts with a live visit to the manure dressing room. They'll be covered in jiz by 4pm.
I've just turned off until KO...fucking sickening
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Was hoping Torres would at least be on the bench. Won't be easy, I'd take a scrappy 1-0 win.
I’ll take any win.
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No Pau or Ramsey a big concern.
Meanwhile the sky wankathon starts with a live visit to the manure dressing room. They'll be covered in jiz by 4pm.
Don't forget your brolly to protect yourself from torrential down-pouring of aforementioned media jiz...
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Our bench when we have a couple of injuries shows how far we still have to go with building depth in the squad.
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I think this will be properly tough, we really need an early goal.
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Was hoping Torres would at least be on the bench. Won't be easy, I'd take a scrappy 1-0 win.
I’ll take any win.
Agree. I think as good as Bailey has been, him and Diaby in from the start away from home against Dyche cloggers, could leave us a little light in the middle. Torres is a huge miss, gutted his not on the bench.
It does feel like we have to get the first goal here.
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I see the usual very small injury is turning into the usual Villa injurython again.
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It will be tougher than hoped for but let's not forget Everton are not Real Madrid, in fact they are pretty crap and we are potentially joint top material
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Well balanced Everton team. Whilst we have better players I’m not feeling overly optimistic.
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Their 50/50 player Doucoure makes in into the first XI, our 50/50 Torres disappears even from the bench. Typical.
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Unai has said that Ramsey 'felt a pain'. So injured, again. FFS.
Torres not even on the bench, FFS.
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I am a bit worried.
The injury problems are taking its toll.
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Ramsey is having a very tough season. Pau being out again is a huge blow.
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Good to see Tielemans on the bench, Doucoure coming back for them, will strengthen their midfield.
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Jacob’s is a hamstring injury.
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I assume Chambers is done at the club if we'd rather have an empty seat than him on bench.
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So glad to see Tielemans back involved, gutted Ramsey is out as in thought he was starting to show signs of sharpness coming back. Bloody nightmare Torres is still injured.
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Still doesn't trust Matty Cash
No, I've always suspected he isnt that keen on him. It's the life of a full back sometimes as they can be very close to the manager for at least 45 mins. Poor first half and he can make a big impact off the bench.
No Ramsey means options were limited, McGinn on left wing. Tielemans a big option off bench.
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Even Emery looks knackered
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I’m feeling optimistic about the game, let’s not forget this is Everton we’re playing. Come on Villa
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i think we look a bit lightweight for this game.
No Ramsey Torres is a blow.
About to say the same. They’ve got some big units in their team. Hopefully we can get some quick passing going to move them around a bit.
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Turned on Sky. As expected, talking about ManUre and Spurzzz. Turned off again after 16 secs. Tossers.
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Back four worries me a little, Moreno hasn’t looked as good as Digne has yet, hopefullly another step towards his full recovery today. The high line looks more.vulnerable with the lack of pace of Lenglet & Diego…also neither are as good on ball as Pau. Frustrates me that our best available centre half is wasted at right back.
Front 6 look good tho & also good to see Teilemans fit again to push Dendoncker down the pecking order.£
Also, if Everton sit in the low block as Sheff U & Burnley did we really need to some shots in from distance to mix it up a bit.
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Their 50/50 player Doucoure makes in into the first XI, our 50/50 Torres disappears even from the bench. Typical.
He was at fault for that goal v Burnley when he came in half fit so best we wait until he's fully fit before trying Torres again.
I'll tell you who needs a big game today, Diego Carlos. I'm not in agreement at all to move Konsa to accommodate him.
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Still doesn't trust Matty Cash
No, I've always suspected he isnt that keen on him. It's the life of a full back sometimes as they can be very close to the manager for at least 45 mins. Poor first half and he can make a big impact off the bench.
I think it's more because Torres is out. He's stressed he likes a left footer in there, so Lenglet has to play, and then he probably wants Carlos to deal with Dominic Duckworth-Lewis.
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Front 6 look good tho & also good to see Teilemans fit again to push Dendoncker down the pecking order.£
I wonder if the multiple injuries has kept us from moving Donk on in this window? There were some pretty strong rumours about him and Everton.
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*Reads thread
*Checks table to see if it's all been a dream
*Double-checks to see if Emery's been sacked
*Closes tab
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Their 50/50 player Doucoure makes in into the first XI, our 50/50 Torres disappears even from the bench. Typical.
He was at fault for that goal v Burnley when he came in half fit so best we wait until he's fully fit before trying Torres again.
I'll tell you who needs a big game today, Diego Carlos. I'm not in agreement at all to move Konsa to accommodate him.
It's not too accommodate him though, it's from lack of trust in Cash to keep the ball.
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Oh no, apparently Unai just said in his pre match interview that Ramsey is only out due to a very minor pain. That usually means a career ending injury in Villa speak.
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Konsa at right back, gives us extra height & Moreno more freedom to go forward. Get the first goal & give away nothing.
David Coote, who looks like he should be in Wallace & Grommet is the ref. Probably the weakest ref in the league.
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I assume Chambers is done at the club if we'd rather have an empty seat than him on bench.
Maybe gone in January which is why KKH back? Only 8 subs inc 2 goalkeepers.
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David coote is useless
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Their 50/50 player Doucoure makes in into the first XI, our 50/50 Torres disappears even from the bench. Typical.
He was at fault for that goal v Burnley when he came in half fit so best we wait until he's fully fit before trying Torres again.
I'll tell you who needs a big game today, Diego Carlos. I'm not in agreement at all to move Konsa to accommodate him.
It's not too accommodate him though, it's from lack of trust in Cash to keep the ball.
I’d say Monty is correct. Our manager is not from the same school of thought to play Konsa right back just to fit another player in.
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An attacking line up with Diaby, Watkins AND Bailey. Hopefully, not defensively weak though. Come on Villa.
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Their 50/50 player Doucoure makes in into the first XI, our 50/50 Torres disappears even from the bench. Typical.
He was at fault for that goal v Burnley when he came in half fit so best we wait until he's fully fit before trying Torres again.
I'll tell you who needs a big game today, Diego Carlos. I'm not in agreement at all to move Konsa to accommodate him.
It's not too accommodate him though, it's from lack of trust in Cash to keep the ball.
I’d say Monty is correct. Our manager is not from the same school of thought to play Konsa right back just to fit another player in.
Indeed, every player will have extremely specific roles and their selection for those roles will be back up by all sorts of observations and data. Doesn't mean it will work! Just that a ridiculous amount of thought goes into everything with this guy.
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wonder where Chambers and Ramsey are, injured, I assume?
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Frustrates me that we name 2 keepers and only 8 subs, surely we have 2 youths we can stick on there for the experience!!
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More than enough to beat these…UTV!!
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Obviously hope it isn't the case, but don't like the look of that starting line up to be honest. Think we will struggle if it becomes a physical battle.
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David coote is useless
He'll be a soft as shite homer.
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We need to expose Coleman at 100mph.
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I don’t think we miss Torres defensively as much as we do from an attacking point of view
He’s often the springboard for our forays forward with his accurate passes launching us into the final third
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I hope I'm wrong but not sure that Bailey and Diaby in the same team is going to be strong enough for this.
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David coote is useless
He'll be a soft as shite homer.
Yep. The fucker.
Come on Villa!
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lets hope Doucore pulls up with an injury .
come on Villa
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Konsa over Cash makes sense, Konsa is more suited to negate Evertons long and high balls into the box.
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Tally ho Aston, tally ho.
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COYVB's
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Claret shorts. Don't like.
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Wimbledon having a go at us early on
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We're looking a bit nervous in defence. Early panicky Carlos clearance and that corner was a mess
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this ref listens to the crowd for his decisions
uselss
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Don't think we look great so far.
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David coote is useless
He'll be a soft as shite homer.
Yep. The fucker.
Come on Villa!
Two already.
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Feel free to wake up Villa!
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Sloppy so far
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AAAAGH!
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I forgot how much the Goodison crowd howl for non free kicks
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villa ffs wake up
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When we're playing away, opponents seem to have a lot of space when they win it back. We don't press like we do at home.
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Coote is such a prick.
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Incredibly sloppy from Emi there. Got lucky.
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cant be giving these a lift - got to keep the whining fcukers quiet
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I’d love us to start an away game really well, just once.
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Is that Steve Stone on the Everton coaching bench?
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Alan Smith is such a prick
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Suicide football this...
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WTF Martinez
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Seems like we're not shy to go long today. Need to get through the first 20 minutes here
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I’d love us to start an away game really well, just once.
Just said the same thing
We always start slowly away from home
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Giving them way too much
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Is that Steve Stone on the Everton coaching bench?
Steve Stone and Ian Woan.
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Oh we're giving those now are we? Fuck's sake.
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Put it on Optus Andy Townsend is co commentary
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Yep it’s a stupid foul Doug.
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I hope I'm wrong but not sure that Bailey and Diaby in the same team is going to be strong enough for this.
Definitely not, neither have touched the ball yet.
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Need a new ref pronto
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They are closing us down well and not letting us play through them, so we are having to pump long balls, which their Uruk-Hai at the back will lap up all day.
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Stupid from Doug
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SJM settle this down
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This defence scares the shit out of me.
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Not sure about this staggered kick off experiment. When do we kick off?
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Branthwaite was holding Doug's shirt too, but apparently they've changed the rules specifically for us.
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Alan Smith is such a prick
fuck knows how he get the work but I think that about loads of them
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Villa need to get hold of it and slow the tempo down Everton want it 100mph
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Ezri not getting much help from bailey
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We have started poorly here.
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SJM started sloppy
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Yay, a shot
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Everton trying to hit us early. We weathered that storm now we'll settle into the game.
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It's like we have forgotten to play football
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Is it me or is the pitch or ball shit
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So many miss placed passes.
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Is it me or is the pitch or ball shit
We’re just not playing very well.
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McGinn's not played well so far.
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McGinn is having a mare
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Really sloppy and passive so far.
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SJM dreadful so far.
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SJM dreadful so far.
Yep, really sloppy
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Lenglet aint bad to be fair
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That was better, but SJM ballsed up the follow up.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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MORENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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wooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww
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Will it stand?
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Wayhay
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Oh that’s lovely!
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Will it stand?
You never know these days...
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And now there is a VAR check
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If they fucking rule this out...
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It looked offside at first glance
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Danjuma played him on
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always looking to cancel goals
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No way is he off and it's not a foul, if this gets disallowed it's a shocker.
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Goal?
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This is taking ages
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They're working so hard to disallow this.
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if it takes more than 60 seconds , give the fucker
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He’s not involved in play though.
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I think that's deliberate, Lenglet's stopping Danjuma from stepping up. Clever.
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Disallowed
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What a palaver
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Nearly 4 fucking mins
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He's not in the keeper's line of vision, that is bollox
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Shame but correct
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thats a ffucking joke
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Farcical. Absolutely fucking farcical.
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Pathetic decision.
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Citeh or Liverpool we would have been playing for 5 mins. What a fucking joke.
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Here is the 'goal'
https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1746537516428071221
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Absolute bullshit
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Well we all knew that was coming
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Stupid from Lenglet
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Shame but correct
Disagree
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He's not in this line of vision, that is bollox
Bailey was offside wasn’t he?
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Shame but correct
Yeah I think you're right.
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Fucking Andy Townsend seems desperate for them to find a reason to disallow it
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Farcical. Absolutely fucking farcical.
100%
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Fuck right off. Fucking ridiculous. Game’s gone.
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Fuck off third time so far this season we have had a negative turnover with nil thr other way around.
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Absolute nonsense
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Stupid from Lenglet
Get back under your bridge
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Looked offside to be fair. But taking that long is unacceptable.
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Fuck VAR. fuck it. That’s a fucking JOkE
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Stupid from Lenglet
said it was the no 31 offside tho
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Clear and obvious, eh?
Load of bollocks.
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Why is it always our goals forensically examined to disallow them?
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We’re playing shit so far but nothing as bad as VAR. Nothing wrong with that goal but knew they’red find something.
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Absolute bollocks. If it takes that long how on earth is it clear and obvious??
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I can accept its not a goal but not the 4 mins it took to cancel it .
VAR needs fucking off .
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Absolute bullshit
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Knew that’d be the decision. Use it to fire us up.
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Here is the 'goal'
https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1746537516428071221
VAR has even deleted this
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Stupid from Lenglet
Get back under your bridge
He's fouling danjuma anyway
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Lazy from Bailey not to be onside
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Here is the 'goal'
https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1746537516428071221
VAR has even deleted this
Another attempt
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1746538704699531549
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What I can't quite understand is they looked at Bailey being offside, but then seemed to move on to Lenglet in the middle of the goal.
Why even look at Lenglet if Bailey was offside in the first place?
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Moreno playing really well.
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Where was Bailey stood then?
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Stupid from Lenglet
Get back under your bridge
He's fouling danjuma anyway
He wasn't, they usually let it go when both players are grabbing each other, which they were here.
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What I can't quite understand is they looked at Bailey being offside, but then seemed to move on to Lenglet in the middle of the goal.
Why even look at Lenglet if Bailey was offside in the first place?
I fully agree. Seemed determined to disallow it
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What I can't quite understand is they looked at Bailey being offside, but then seemed to move on to Lenglet in the middle of the goal.
Why even look at Lenglet if Bailey was offside in the first place?
They look at as many things as possible as they desperately try to disallow a goal. Wankers.
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Moreno playing really well.
He is, looking more like last season's.
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Both keepers been bonkers today
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controlling it now
like to see more from Diaby
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I'm not sure about that screenshot, given you can't see the ball. On the other angle, that they only showed briefly, it looked like the pass was played a little after that when Bailey had taken a step or 2 more.
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Could have scored then
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Stupid from Lenglet
Get back under your bridge
He's fouling danjuma anyway
He wasn't, they usually let it go when both players are grabbing each other, which they were here.
Looks like only Lenglet stopping him run out though
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we need to shoot more still
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Doug could have had a shot there? Still absolutely right response here
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Brilliant play
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our back four relies on VAR so no complaints from me, great dark arts from longlet stopping the everton player from trying to push out :D
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Good save from t-rex arms
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Well on top now
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Come on this lot are shit let's bury this...
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In what way was Bailey interfering with play?
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Why is the Line not on baileys other leg ?
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In what way was Bailey interfering with play?
Didn’t he play it to Moreno or was that someone else?
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Ollie booked
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our back four relies on VAR so no complaints from me, great dark arts from longlet stopping the everton player from trying to push out :D
No it doesn't VAR hasn't overturned a single goal against us al lseason, every single disallowed goal has been correctly flagged on the pitch.
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This ref is pathetic
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Diaby needs to be doing a lot more.
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Yellow my arse...
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thats nt a fucking yellow ref
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Controlling the game now, but need a goal.
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Never a yellow
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Referee is doing my tits in
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This ref is a proper prick, that's never a yellow card.
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You are fucking joking ref
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This ref, c***.
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What on earth?!
Coote is fucking AWFUL.
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This ref is a total twat.
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Everton fans were accusing the refs of having an agenda against them when Calvert was sent off.
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Diaby needs to be doing a lot more.
Not involved enough again
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Thought you had to go off for blood
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In what way was Bailey interfering with play?
Didn’t he play it to Moreno or was that someone else?
Yes Bailey came back from an offside position
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Diaby needs to be doing a lot more.
Hardly noticed him this game
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I'm not sure about that screenshot, given you can't see the ball. On the other angle, that they only showed briefly, it looked like the pass was played a little after that when Bailey had taken a step or 2 more.
My thoughts exactly Paul, you can't see the ball in that picture, so don't know exactly when it was played. Why I don't get is why after looking at Bailey, they then looked at Lenglet after the shot. Why even look at Lenglet if Bailey was offside?
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Ollie literally booked for winning a header.
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Diaby needs to be doing a lot more.
Hardly noticed him this game
There's space he can exploit if patient
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If they've ruled that out for Bailey's position it's even worse than I thought.
Is interfering with play not a thing now?
Get it in the bin.
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Ollie got a yellow? Fucking ridiculous.
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fucking pathetic - the referee only booked him because of how he stayed down. Moronic refereeing
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I'm not sure about that screenshot, given you can't see the ball. On the other angle, that they only showed briefly, it looked like the pass was played a little after that when Bailey had taken a step or 2 more.
My thoughts exactly Paul, you can't see the ball in that picture, so don't know exactly when it was played. Why I don't get is why after looking at Bailey, they then looked at Lenglet after the shot. Why even look at Lenglet if Bailey was offside?
The wider angle they just showed was clearer and yep, it was probably the right decision to be fair.
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Diaby needs to be doing a lot more.
Hardly noticed him this game
There's space he can exploit if patient
He is a spectator, not moving not looking to get involved
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This ref is a proper prick, that's never a yellow card.
fully agree
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Lucky then, well done DC.
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Lucky then, well done DC.
Given some of the free kicks he's givn so far I'm not sure how it wasn't a foul on Konsa just before it.
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Lucky then, well done DC.
Given some of the free kicks he's givn so far I'm not sure how it wasn't a foul on Konsa just before it.
Agreed
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Bailey off again - and yes he was before, fair play
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think Id get Zaniolo on for Diaby at HT
rough them up a bit.
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Everton fans. Whiniest is the league by a country mile.
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Diaby just isn’t suited to a more central role.
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My God Everton fans. Martinez rolls the ball about 6 inches forward and they're screaming like they want a pen
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He's gagging to give Everton a more than equal footing this fucking referee.
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This has got scrappy 1-0 defeat written all over it.
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Feels like we needed to score during that period. Diaby is offering nothing , McGinn looks off it too
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Everton fans. Whiniest is the league by a country mile.
It must be a scouse thing as the other lot are the same.
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Ref is garbage: pathetic inconsistency.
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He just fell over FFs. Ref being swayed by these bunch of moaning ****** in the crowd.
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He's gagging to give Everton a more than equal footing this fucking referee.
Every time a blue shirt goes down it's a free it seems.
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Diaby might as well not be on the pitch.
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Whiny twats sound like they're protesting against the Poll Tax every time a decision goes against them.
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chance to break there - poor from bailey
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Everton fans. Whiniest is the league by a country mile.
It must be a scouse thing as the other lot are the same.
They are nowhere near as bad as Everton fans. Give it a few decisions they don't like and only dogs will be able to hear the high pitched whiny twats.
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Diaby might as well not be on the pitch.
Ditto Bailey.
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Why the fuck could they treat Tarkowski on the pitch for a few minutes but Moerno has had to go off and leave us a player short, ref is doing everything he can to help them, the prick.
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Diaby might as well not be on the pitch.
Neither him or Watkins are seeing much of the ball.
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Diaby might as well not be on the pitch.
Ditto Bailey.
Ridiculous thing to say
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Well done Emi
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Whiny twats sound like they're protesting against the Poll Tax every time a decision goes against them.
One for the kids, there...
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worlds No 1
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8 mins added time
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Lenglet and Carlos should get a roasting for that at h/t
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Carlos gets caught badly there
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Sad to say but I think this match will be decided by referee aided and abetted by VAR and, not in our favour may I add
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Great saves by Emi.
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zaniolo and Youri for Bailey and diaby for me - they havent done enough
cue one of them scoring
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I still have faith, we are in control
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McGinn not having his best game
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losing the possession easy dougie and SJM
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Cash on at h/t for either Lenglet or Carlos. Zaniolo for Diaby
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Why are we giving the ball away so much?
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Emi keeping us in this. Sloppy again.
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McGinn simply cannot hold onto the ball.
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No yellow for Coleman?
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listen to them whining
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This must be McGinn's worst half for ages.
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Getting outmuscled a bit in the duels now.
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this fucking ref
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Luiz ponderous
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Watkins caused that attack with a ridiculous shot
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Carlos gets caught badly there
Trying to play offside when the opponent is in their own half isn't advisable really
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Sad to say but I think this match will be decided by referee aided and abetted by VAR and, not in our favour may I add
Aye. Everton aren't much. But when you have to deal with the opposition, the crowd and a homer of a ref it's a different calculation.
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Is Digne suspended? Remind me...
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Is Digne suspended? Remind me...
Injured
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No foul by Carlos, either.
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No foul by Carlos, either.
Shocking decision, we were in then
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No foul by Carlos, either.
agreed again
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Emi's saves
https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1746544724058497229
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Not sure what the free kick against Carlos was for there, defender pushes him to try to force him offside, Carlos nudges him back and without a thought the ref just blows up.
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Ooh, Diaby's playing...
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Not sure what the free kick against Carlos was for there, defender pushes him to try to force him offside, Carlos nudges him back and without a thought the ref just blows up.
Yeah, the ref just gives them everything
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I'd bring Tielemans on for Diaby, the latter has hardly been involved at all.
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The rule for today is, if it's wearing a blue shirt and it's on the deck, you award it a free kick.
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We've had 71% possession, stats fans
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Needed a slightly better touch there, surprised the ref didn't gift Tarkowski a free kick.
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We can't keep carrying Diaby like this
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Half time. Dodgy opening 10 and last 10, totally in control inbetween. Which is decent as SJM, Diaby and Bailey have been very quiet.
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Hopefully it will be the same like last year, pretty tight first half with Everton shading it and then we step things up from the hour mark.
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
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Everton are incredibly crap. We really should be beating these
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We can't keep carrying Diaby like this
Contributing very little.
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Both teams doing the off the ball stuff well, yet always look genuinely surprised when they actually get the fucking thing.
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So if Bailey was considered to be offside, why did they spend so much time looking at the frame that showed Moreno's shot at goal?
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Boring
Come on Villa second half!
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Everton are incredibly crap. We really should be beating these
We are playing to their level.
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
You get those games at Goodison, always feels tight matches with them playing pretty narrow so not much space to open things up and in their present situation they'll want to make the game as scrappy as possible.
We had similar at Brentford and won that so no reason why we can't do the same this time.
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Over 70% possession and by far the better team fails to gain an advantage in the first half so second half a scrappy 1-0 for the other team sounds right.
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Well we should be 1-0 up. Unfortunate.
In control most of the half. Its nice having the best player in the world at his position.
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When SJM plays well, we do. He isn't but we're not too bad. The final ball isn't really happening for us. Step it up a bit ad we should have enough.
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Everton are incredibly crap. We really should be beating these
We are playing to their level.
They are sucking us into a Sunday morning pub league game . We need to rise above it
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
Completely agree. Developing into the usual bollocks Dyche loves his teams to play, aided and abetted by a piss poor referee.
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Everton really are every bit as bad as their league position would indicate. Rubbish.
The ref has been taken in by the constant and pathetic whingeing.
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We need to stop being so casual on the ball in our defensive third. Several times we've needlessly given it away leading to problems.
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We just don’t look the same side since Citeh at home.
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We can't keep carrying Diaby like this
Great player, deserves to be on the pitch. Talent matters.
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We just don’t look the same side since Citeh at home.
Arsenal.
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So if Bailey was considered to be offside, why did they spend so much time looking at the frame that showed Moreno's shot at goal?
That was what I was saying, they spent ages looking at the Moreno shot when it was offside straight away.
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Everton really are every bit as bad as their league position would indicate. Rubbish.
The ref has been taken in by the constant and pathetic whingeing.
exactly as he was at brentford
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I'd bring Tielemans on for Diaby, the latter has hardly been involved at all.
agreed
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I see everton commiting 3 men to win the ball in midfield on many occassions. It's a high risk strategy, how long can they keep doing that? surely they'll run out of energy If we can release the ball quicker their entire midfield is in no mans land and we can capitalise.
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Stop fucking about at the back
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I see everton commiting 3 men to win the ball in midfield on many occassions. It's a high risk strategy, how long can they keep doing that? surely they'll run out of energy If we can release the ball quicker their entire midfield is in no mans land and we can capitalise.
Tielemans on the hour will be a good sub for this, probably sacrifice a wide player and give Bailey more licence to drift in.
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I think it’s been pretty poor from both teams. Looks more like a nothing middle of the table clash so far. Looks like 1 goal might settle it but, due to VAR, much more likely to go in Everton’s favour.
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I wish Konsa was playing back in the middle
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I'd bring Tielemans on for Diaby, the latter has hardly been involved at all.
agreed
Seems very unlikely tielemans Will play more than 15-20 mins today. More likely to see zaniolo I'd have thought. We miss ramsey
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
I thought we had a decent period halfway through where we kept the ball well and looked threatening. Just shown the replay of the disallowed goal and it still isn't exactly able to freeze it when the ball is played, which could have made the difference.
Bailey and Diaby in the crane team doesn't really work in games like this. Would consider Tielemans coming on for one of them soon.
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Everton fans. Whiniest is the league by a country mile.
always have been moaning twats
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
Completely agree. Developing into the usual bollocks Dyche loves his teams to play, aided and abetted by a piss poor referee.
Disagree. We look far more composed on the ball notwithstanding the odd brainfart. We had them pinned-in for a good chunk of that half.
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Half time. Dodgy opening 10 and last 10, totally in control inbetween. Which is decent as SJM, Diaby and Bailey have been very quiet.
McGinn has given the ball away a ridiculous amount of times. Bailey looks sharp I think.
Think Watkins and Luiz have been outstanding. Moreno very good. Loved the way after their strong start our midfield two took charge. You can hear how nervy the crowd were getting. Lenglet has been very good too.
Martinez bailed out Carlos big time with that save at the end. He lost his bearings completely.
I'd keep a bit more faith in Diaby, just think there is space there that can be exploited. Tielemans hasnt played in weeks so 30 mins likely to be the max he can do today.
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I wish Konsa was playing back in the middle
Cash would be fine v these, not sure really why he isn't starting.
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I wish Konsa was playing back in the middle
💯, he's not that comfortable on ball at right back. Lost it badly once and we were fortunate to get away with it.
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Dominated the ball yet they had the best chance
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I wish Konsa was playing back in the middle
The present two don't inspire a lot of confidence.
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Boring
Come on Villa second half!
Not a word I'd use to describe that half. Erratic, frustrating, maybe...
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I have a bad feeling we’ll lose this 1-0. We often concede a soft one. Come on Villa be incisive.
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Carlos gets caught badly there
Trying to play offside when the opponent is in their own half isn't advisable really
Absolutely ridiculous
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Need more from Diaby, Bailey, McGinn.
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I'd bring Tielemans on for Diaby, the latter has hardly been involved at all.
agreed
Seems very unlikely tielemans Will play more than 15-20 mins today. More likely to see zaniolo I'd have thought. We miss ramsey
To be fair, we've missed Ramsey even when he's been on the pitch of late.
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We've made them chase quite a lot in that first half. And there have been numerous times they've pressed us high and we've passed it around them. That's going to take it's toll in their legs as the game comes toward the end. I suspect we'll finish strongly, and maybe a couple of fresh legs off the bench will be the thing we need to break the deadlock.
Very disappointed for Moreno, an excellent finish. I think Bailey was a bit lazy getting out, which is poor from him.
Moreno seems to be getting 1v1 with Coleman quite a bit, I'm surprised he hasn't knocked it past him and tried to run around him yet.
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
I thought we had a decent period halfway through where we kept the ball well and looked threatening. Just shown the replay of the disallowed goal and it still isn't exactly able to freeze it when the ball is played, which could have made the difference.
Bailey and Diaby in the crane team doesn't really work in games like this. Would consider Tielemans coming on for one of them soon.
This is usually the frame image they have when the ball is released...
(https://i.ibb.co/zxmSqqd/IMG-0139.png)
Impossible to tell when it is actually released from those still frames & makes measuring the ball receiver to the value of a gnats pube, utterly pointless.
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Diaby watching that ball sail across the box rather than moving for it 😮💨
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They are much more robust in the challenge than we are but we have way more quality on the ball….needs to be class over brawn.
Moreno getting the type of space Digne did in the VP fixture…
Still would prefer Konsa at CB and Cash at RB than Carlos at CB but let’s see what 2nd half brings
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We need more from the front three. None of them are threatening, we need to find a way to get them more in the game.
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They are much more robust in the challenge than we are but we have way more quality on the ball….needs to be class over brawn.
Moreno getting the type of space Digne did in the VP fixture…
Still would prefer Konsa at CB and Cash at RB than Carlos at CB but let’s see what 2nd half brings
If we were tackling like them this ref would've shown us 5-6 yellows by now.
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Carlos should have made a sub decision for Emery there...
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Daft yellow for DC
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watkins touch not good there
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I have an awful feeling we don't finish this game with 11 on the field.
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
I thought we had a decent period halfway through where we kept the ball well and looked threatening. Just shown the replay of the disallowed goal and it still isn't exactly able to freeze it when the ball is played, which could have made the difference.
Bailey and Diaby in the crane team doesn't really work in games like this. Would consider Tielemans coming on for one of them soon.
This is usually the frame image they have when the ball is released...
(https://i.ibb.co/zxmSqqd/IMG-0139.png)
Impossible to tell when it is actually released from those still frames & makes measuring the ball receiver to the value of a gnats pube, utterly pointless.
It starts at point if contact, not release
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Is that Ian Woan there, IW?
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Might be an opportunity to take Carlos off now after that ridiculous yellow. His passing is dreadful too.
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It looks like a game between 2 lower league teams. We have rarely shown any style or class. We are allowing it to develop into the sort of game Everton want, scrappy.
Bailey and Diaby in the crane team doesn't really work in games like this. Would consider Tielemans coming on for one of them soon.
Maybe they should be hoisted off.
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Watching this in the Irish Pub with Peter MacParland's grandson of all people - who is, of all things, Everton. Also, world's most dyspeptic man.
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I’d like to see some changes soon. They’ve dragged us down to their level and we need to beat crap teams like these.
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Watching this in the Irish Pub with Peter MacParland's grandson of all people - who is, of all things, Everton. Also, world's most dyspeptic man.
Searches for a dictionary...
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ref listens to the crowd again
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Possession is changing hands far too often for this level
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Watching this in the Irish Pub with Peter MacParland's grandson of all people - who is, of all things, Everton. Also, world's most dyspeptic man.
Searches for a dictionary...
Just means he can't read very well.
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Watching this in the Irish Pub with Peter MacParland's grandson of all people - who is, of all things, Everton. Also, world's most dyspeptic man.
Searches for a dictionary...
It's one of those terms that is medical in origin but is used to describe mood. Not a fan...
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We've lost the plot here.
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When does Diaby arrive?
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I'd take Diaby off, he's been completely ineffective.
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use your speed Diaby
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ref listens to the crowd again
He's fucking awful, he's giving them so many soft free kicks but completely ignoring the pushing that they're doing constantly, and the crowd appealing for everything is definitely part of it.
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When does Diaby arrive?
Needs to do more, doesn't he
We need to sign another striker this January.
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I'd take Diaby off, he's been completely ineffective.
Again ! He's been really disappointing
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When does Diaby arrive?
Needs to do more, doesn't he
We need to sign another striker this January.
He's been absolutely hopeless today, as he has for most of the season since the first 2-3 weeks.
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bailey was completely on his own then with hand up - wasted
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Better
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pen??
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I still don't think we've found his best position. Is he a winger? Should be in the number 10 role???
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maybe not
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When does Diaby arrive?
He's grown into it a bit more tbf...
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Diaby, fucking useless.
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Not so better
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Crunching tackle on Diaby then
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Doug clearly fouled there and this useless homer of a ref just ignores it. C**t.
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pen??
Not for Villa no. Doesn't even get looked at...
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Filthy from Tarkawski
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Diaby should have gone over with the first challenge
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Tarkowski is a c**t
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The officials have stopped even entertaining the idea of giving us any decisions.
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JD getting ready to come on
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Fuck me this ref. C**T.
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That should've been a penalty, I don't give a fuck if you get the ball, if the follow through sees you scissor someones standing leg you;re running the risk of breaking a leg and should be punished for it.
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Tarkowski is a c**t
A thug masquerading as a footballer.
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got to beat these , they are shite
making the wrong pass at times
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Duran on for Bailey
Tielemans on for Diaby
DCL off for Beto
McNeill also on
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duran on with youri
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Diaby you was poor sorry
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started to think Kudus should have been the one we sign
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oh dear Duran
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Fuck me Duran.
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FFS Duran.
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We need a couple of signings to freshen things up
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Laughable from Duran
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Diaby you was poor sorry
Not sure of the rules. Could we sell him this month, as a balance of payments move if nothing else?
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started to think Kudus should have been the one we sign
Kudos for that.
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Tielemans and Bailey had been doing good things as a pair. I'm surprised Bailey has been taken off.
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Something ain’t right about Diaby.
I reckon he wants out.
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We need a couple of signings to freshen things up
FFP won't allow it as things stand. See my Diaby comment above
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Diaby you was poor sorry
Not sure of the rules. Could we sell him this month, as a balance of payments move if nothing else?
We could, but we're obviously not going to.
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Great from Kamara
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I don't like to see Diarby and Bailey being taken off together I think you need one ball carrier on the pitch.
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Diaby you was poor sorry
Not sure of the rules. Could we sell him this month, as a balance of payments move if nothing else?
I believe there is a limit to the number of teams you can be registered with during the same season. Not going to happen anyway.
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I really like Kamara.
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Strange changes by Emery
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Why did the Pratt stop the game then it wasn’t a head injury.
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thug
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This has been coming...
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This has been very poor.
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Tarkowski needs to be carded, absolutely right that the players have kicked off
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I'm afraid this has become a game to not lose.
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Filthy from Tarkawski
Ben Mee’s mate. What do you expect. Both from the school of Dyche
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There we go, should be his second
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I’m at peace with a 0-0 here. Take the point and move on.
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Why is Carlos getting involved in stupid wrestling when he's on a yellow card?
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Our discipline is terrible, every game ridiculous handbags.
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Cash on for Carlos
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This is exactly what Everton want
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Yellow for Lenglet. Pathetic from him.
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If he’s booked him how on earth isn’t it a free kick?
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Just going to say get Matty on, and yes Carlos is walking a tightrope. A smart move
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good sub
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Fuck off Coleman, twat.
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Why are we falling for this
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never a yellow
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Absolutely fcuking stupid from Tielemans
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If he’s booked him how on earth isn’t it a free kick?
Lenglet was carded as well, but that’s not a free kick either.
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The late winner for us will be nearly as satisfying as Ashley's was.
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Another game this incompetent referee manages to lose control of.
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The referees in this league are absolute comedy.
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Ref has now given up all semblance of control
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This is entirely on the ref, just like Brentford, he's a fucking twat who lets one team kick and niggle and then books the reactions.
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We’re getting drawn into Dyche-ball here.
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Silly Tielemans. Dreadful stuff this.
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What have we done to this ref? Run over his dog?
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never a yellow
Not even a foul.
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What a shit game this has become
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If he’s booked him how on earth isn’t it a free kick?
Lenglet was carded as well, but that’s not a free kick either.
Lenglet was booked for arguing, not sliding straight through the back of a player
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Silly Tielemans. Dreadful stuff this.
Never a booking
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Duran really is fcuking shit.
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The ref is like some comedy drawing of a useless twat, and ref's accordingly.
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I'm getting to the point of thinking just don't fookin lose this.
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so thats a yellow again
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Duran really is fcuking shit.
I don’t see the point of him at all.
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On this display I would be more than happy for Everton to go down, they truly are a very poor side. We need to kill them off.
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"Handballllll!!!!!!"
Fucking Everton divs.
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He even turned his back on the Watkins tackle... incompetent clown
*ref
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What a shit game this has become
Become?
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Fcuk GTG Villa...just score and put these whingy barstewards to bed!...(I've got 90+ mins)
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Went to school in Solihull with an Everton fan. He was a proper bell end. Let’s bury these scouse whinge bags
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Well done Duran.
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I fucking hate everton
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How much of Duran's shirt did the linesman let the defender get away with there
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Coote is bloody useless.
Always seem to lose control of the game in the last 15mins or so.
He was the chump who wasn't in charge at Brentford when Unai got a yellow and Kamara a red.
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wrong ball should have gone right wing
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2 awful balls by dougie
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Clueless football from us now
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This is bloody awful.
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An awful game.
Fucking hell, come on Villa!
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why we gone so shit - final ball is wank
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That 0-0 stat has to give sooner or later...
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They seem off it today
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So close
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Fucking hell, this is absolutely bloody dismal. What the fuck was that from Moreno. Can't even use the tiredness excuse.
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Crosses over hit, simple passes all astray now. So ragged
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Last 5 plus added time, so we're into Villa time.
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wtf
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Torres can't come back quick enough. He starts off so many of our attacks.
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We've been off it for a long time. Torres is a massive miss but it also seems like opposing managers have found ways to break up our play and nullify our threats.
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Watkins has the first touch of a hippo
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Mary mother of god, how did we not score there?
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Close again!
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Close.
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so close again duran
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Who can we do without for three games that can take the inevitable red card from this joker?
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Phew, Everton goal but offside
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should have started playing hour before
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Oh Duran, so close
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Going for the late win...
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SJM off for Zanilo, possibly an injury sub
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Zaniolo on for mcginn
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Zaniolo winner please
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65 mins and Villa bring on their Belgian midfielder who's had an injury.
City did the same yesterday on 69 minutes.
De Bruyne scored one and created one.
And that's the difference between them and us.
Better depth of quality.
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Phew my arse
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At least Unai is trying to win the game. Zaniolo, win it for us.
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This game is horrible. I'll take a draw now.
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Zanigol on
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7 added mins
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7 mins, come on...
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Will he get that now mythical screamer?
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At least Unai is trying to win the game. Zaniolo, win it for us.
Yeah, it really is Everton Agricultural Industries Ltd
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I'd like to get another look at the tackle that injured McGinn, looked studs up in real time but it's been completely ignored.
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At least Unai is trying to win the game. Zaniolo, win it for us.
Yeah, it really is Everton Agricultural Industries Ltd
Burnley mk2.
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I'd like to get another look at the tackle that injured McGinn, looked studs up in real time but it's been completely ignored.
I thought there was a clear handball in that goalmouth melee that was completely ignored too
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65 mins and Villa bring on their Belgian midfielder who's had an injury.
City did the same yesterday on 69 minutes.
De Bruyne scored one and created one.
And that's the difference between them and us.
Better depth of quality.
not many De Bruynes about
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I'd like to get another look at the tackle that injured McGinn, looked studs up in real time but it's been completely ignored.
Even if it was, the DCL rescinded card shows studs up is allowed by Everton players this season by the PL.
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Not been good enough today
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I'd like to get another look at the tackle that injured McGinn, looked studs up in real time but it's been completely ignored.
I thought there was a clear handball in that goalmouth melee that was completely ignored too
I thought the same.
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I'd like to get another look at the tackle that injured McGinn, looked studs up in real time but it's been completely ignored.
Even if it was, the DCL rescinded card shows studs up is allowed by Everton players this season by the PL.
Yep
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this fucking ref
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ignored the tackle on watkins 2 mins before and the mcginn one
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Good work Longlegs
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Why are our players so stupid
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VAR awarding fouls now?
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What a ******
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Is ffp so bad for us we can’t spend this window? Don’t want to lose momentum but we need a few upgrades
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Discipline has been appalling.
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The ref is wank
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FT. Unai's first 0-0 in the PL.
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The ref is corrupt
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That was utter shit.
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First foul there was clearly Tarkowski pushing Watkins into an offside position, again the ref decided to punoish the reaction instead.
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Is ffp so bad for us we can’t spend this window? Don’t want to lose momentum but we need a few upgrades
while chelsea probably spend another 200 million I suppose
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I’ll take that.
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This is a big 2 points dropped against a poor side
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That was fucking awful.
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And there it is..
Goodbye That Stat...
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We need to spend some money.
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The ref is corrupt
Shit and inconsistent.
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Is ffp so bad for us we can’t spend this window? Don’t want to lose momentum but we need a few upgrades
while chelsea probably spend another 200 million I suppose
With their signings on 25 year contracts.
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Clear and obvious, eh?
Load of bollocks.
Not for offsides.
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Robbed
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That was fucking awful.
We played into Everton's hands there, allowed them to rattle us.
It's worth noting that in terms of points earned this season Everton are in mid table, so only really rele candidates based on the deduction.
So... Oh I dunno...