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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on December 14, 2023, 07:26:18 PM
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Sunday 17th December 2pm. Gtech Community Stadium.
Brentford 1 Aston Villa 3. The steamroller continues. But away.
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Have I messed up the poll?
I voted but can't see the results
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1-1
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Have I messed up the poll?
I voted but can't see the results
I voted too...can't see the result either
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Fucking useless!
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Can a mod change the poll visibility please? Sorry for being a div.
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Same here, voted but couldn't see it. Thought I was the first and it might just show everyone else's.
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Who is the amateur who set up the pre match thread?
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Have I messed up the poll?
I voted but can't see the results
Looks normal to me.
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This has got tricky game written all over it - us coming off the mega high of last week, them having a really poor result last week, it being away, and them being decent at home.
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We really owe Brentford one at their place. No Dougie but tonight and Saturday he looked like he needs a rest.
They are a tough nut to crack there but still no Toney and no Mbeumbo. Their results on the whole haven’t been brilliant this season.
Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Digne
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Bailey
Ramsey
2-0 (Watkins, Tielemans).
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This has got tricky game written all over it - us coming off the mega high of last week, them having a really poor result last week, it being away, and them being decent at home.
Sorry. their home record this season is W3 D3 L2 in which they have beaten West Ham, Luton and Burnley - So not as decent as you might think.
1-3 to Villa for me
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Is Frank going to bring out his whiteboard again?
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This has got tricky game written all over it - us coming off the mega high of last week, them having a really poor result last week, it being away, and them being decent at home.
Sorry. their home record this season is W3 D3 L2 in which they have beaten West Ham, Luton and Burnley - So not as decent as you might think.
1-3 to Villa for me
That’s decent - it’s not amazing - but 8 games and 2 defeats says it’s not an easy place to go.
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They only lost twice at home last season. Of their 4 league defeats at home since the start of last season, 2 were against Arsenal, and then Newcastle and Everton.
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We really owe Brentford one at their place. No Dougie but tonight and Saturday he looked like he needs a rest.
They are a tough nut to crack there but still no Toney and no Mbeumbo. Their results on the whole haven’t been brilliant this season.
Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Digne
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Bailey
Ramsey
2-0 (Watkins, Tielemans).
Digne suspended. One good thing about the team above is 5 of them haven't played at all tonight.
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This has got tricky game written all over it - us coming off the mega high of last week, them having a really poor result last week, it being away, and them being decent at home.
Sorry. their home record this season is W3 D3 L2 in which they have beaten West Ham, Luton and Burnley - So not as decent as you might think. 1-3 to Villa for me
9 games and W3 D3 L3, would have a nice symmetry.
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This has got tricky game written all over it - us coming off the mega high of last week, them having a really poor result last week, it being away, and them being decent at home.
Sorry. their home record this season is W3 D3 L2 in which they have beaten West Ham, Luton and Burnley - So not as decent as you might think.
1-3 to Villa for me
That’s decent - it’s not amazing - but 8 games and 2 defeats says it’s not an easy place to go.
They have only have lost 4 of their 27 home games since the start of last season
Current form home and away : they have lost 4 of their last 5 matches in the Prem.
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2-0.
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Poll sorted.
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This is it now. Time to stop imitating the '77 side, and start putting some form together away from home. Clean sheet too. 3-none us.
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Poll sorted.
I don't trust the result.
Stop the steal !
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I wonder if Leglet will get a run out for this game? Or is his loan being cut short so we're just not using him anymore?
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Need to start showing better form away from home, starting this weekend. 0-2, FTF.
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Think we'll win this one.
Both teams to score though.
3-1 Villa.
FTF.
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Poll sorted.
Much obliged. Ta!
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Think Mbuemo will be a big miss for them plus, would be great to get another win so, draw it is then.
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Who is the amateur who set up the pre match thread?
Pre-match. Fucking amateur!
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got a bad vibe about this one
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Tough ground for us, played Thursday night, pressure of a title chase applied.
SUE says ‘Fuck’em’
Brentford 0-3 AVFC.
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Who is the amateur who set up the pre match thread?
Pre-match. Fucking amateur!
Wow. I was joking. Did someone shit in your alphabet spaghetti? Hope you get as fired up with everyone else who puts thread at the end of the sentence.
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Who is the amateur who set up the pre match thread?
Pre-match. Fucking amateur!
Wow. I was joking. Did someone shit in your alphabet spaghetti? Hope you get as fired up with everyone else who puts thread at the end of the sentence.
I think he knows that.
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They'll cheat, and win.
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Who is the amateur who set up the pre match thread?
Pre-match. Fucking amateur!
Wow. I was joking. Did someone shit in your alphabet spaghetti? Hope you get as fired up with everyone else who puts thread at the end of the sentence.
I think he knows that.
Of course I do. I just didn't put a winky, did I?
And yes, 'thread' is superfluous as all you need is a clear subject title. For example: "Aston Villa vs Real Madrid Champions League Final Post-Match". We know it's a thread.
Nothing wrong with promoting clear communication. Obviously anyone writing titles like "Am I the only one...?" or "Do people think that...?", requiring you to click through to discover the subject need a severe kicking at least.
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1-3 Watkins X2 and McGinn.
Christmas and Holiday wishes to all at H And V!
See you after Man Utd!
UTV!
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1-3 Watkins X2 and McGinn.
Christmas and Holiday wishes to all at H And V!
See you after Man Utd!
UTV!
Bit early for that isn't it
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Footy has plans?
Thanks and Happy Christmas 🎄 yourself, Footy.
UTV!
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Score draw is my guess here
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1-3 Watkins X2 and McGinn.
Christmas and Holiday wishes to all at H And V!
See you after Man Utd!
UTV!
Thanks Footy. Have a good Christmas and look forward to your insights and research when you come back.
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Yeah, don't go yet. I thought your excellent research would give a full list of all Brentford's currently injured players who are likely to miss Sunday's game
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I'm going for a 2-1 win I can see us beating Brentford.
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It would be very Villa to beat Man City and Arsenal then lose to Brentford. I'll be shocked if we win this one as well.
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another tough game to call, a clean sheet please Villa. :)
UTV
The Doc
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I've gone for draw as we are yet to beat Brentford in the Premier League at their place - two games, one draw and one loss.
I hope I'm wrong and we are celebrating a win.
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Tricky game.
But should have enough to win.
4 winnable December league games coming up.
Gonna be a treat.
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Slightly uncomfortable about this fixture, we seem to struggle down there and our away form is still somewhat iffy. We do have the tendency to throw in a below par display every now and again and I fear it could be Sunday. However, Emery proves me wrong about something or other in almost every single game which is an absolute delight. I hope he proves me wrong given my caution in this prediction.
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I feel this is more than a banana skin than Forest was and we all know what happened there. Big game for Tielemans who has to step up with Dougie out.
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We really owe Brentford one at their place. No Dougie but tonight and Saturday he looked like he needs a rest.
They are a tough nut to crack there but still no Toney and no Mbeumbo. Their results on the whole haven’t been brilliant this season.
Martinez
Konsa
Carlos
Torres
Digne
Kamara
McGinn
Tielemans
Watkins
Bailey
Ramsey
2-0 (Watkins, Tielemans).
I'd prefer Cash to come back in at RB. I'm not sure at all about Tielemans in next to Kamara, maybe McGinn might play central with Tielemans further up and Bailey on right. Ramsey still a bit tentative since coming back from injury so will be interesting how his combination with Moreno will go.
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I feel this is more than a banana skin than Forest was and we all know what happened there. Big game for Tielemans who has to step up with Dougie out.
He might start Donk as-well
Ramsey to come on later..
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i hope he doesn't start Dendoncker, he's ok to come on to help see games out for the last 20 mins but if you need to get on the front foot he's not the answer.
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Tielemans and Bailey are doubts.
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So, we have Digne and Luiz suspended, Traore, Olsen, Mings, and Buendia out. Tielemans and Bailey doubtful.
Martinez
Konsa Carlos Torres Moreno
Kamara McGinn
Zaniolo Ramsey
Diaby Watkins
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Tielemans and Bailey doubtful. Our squad is going to be tested a wee bit over the next few weeks. The Donk will be called-upon more frequently, maybe even for PL starts.
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Tielemans and Bailey are doubts.
Big blow. Looks like the Ci£y / Arsenal double header has taken its toll
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Tielemans out is a blow, with Luiz out as well.
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Tielemans out is a blow, with Luiz out as well.
McGinn could drop deeper or you risk Dendoncker
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Tielemans and Bailey doubtful. Our squad is going to be tested a wee bit over the next few weeks. The Donk will be called-upon more frequently, maybe even for PL starts.
I can see Cash being used at right midfield again.
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Tielemans and Bailey doubtful. Our squad is going to be tested a wee bit over the next few weeks. The Donk will be called-upon more frequently, maybe even for PL starts.
I can see Cash being used at right midfield again.
i can see a defeat in that case
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We struggle against bus parkers. No idea how Brentford play, but if they set up to frustrate we need to be patient and take our chances.
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And when I say 'struggle' I mean slightly!
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Yeah but haven't they got nearly a team out injured?
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Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Moreno
McGinn
Dendonker
Kamara
Ramsey
Diaby
Watkins
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He might put Zaniolo in for the. Donk with SJM central.
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Possibly yeah. These are overly physical though, so wouldn't be adverse to a midfield 4 like that who can handle themselves.
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I am always impressed with Jensen.
They definitely like to leave their foot in.
It’s like the old Wimbledon,if you don’t match the physical stuff they will dominate.
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based on the injury / suspension pile up i'd now go -
---------- Martinez ------------
Konsa Carlos Torres Moreno
--- Dendocker -- Kamara ---
McGinn ------------- Ramsey
--- Zaniolo ------ Watkins ----
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I am always impressed with Jensen.
They definitely like to leave their foot in.
It’s like the old Wimbledon,if you don’t match the physical stuff they will dominate.
I’ve just read on the Beeb that Jensen is injured.
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He didn't say Tielemans and Bailey were definitely out did he? When he said Watkins was doubtful before Bournemouth, he ended up playing the full 90.
It is has been a tough period but after the momentum of those two brilliant wins, it would be a shame if over a third of the team was ruled out for this one!
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I am always impressed with Jensen.
They definitely like to leave their foot in.
It’s like the old Wimbledon,if you don’t match the physical stuff they will dominate.
I’ve just read on the Beeb that Jensen is injured.
good
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I am always impressed with Jensen.
They definitely like to leave their foot in.
It’s like the old Wimbledon,if you don’t match the physical stuff they will dominate.
I’ve just read on the Beeb that Jensen is injured.
That is fortunate.
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and by the way these lot are dirty bastards make no mistake about it, epitomised by the carthorse Ben Mee at the back and Pinnock . Dirty chunts
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I see Mbueno is out for 12 weeks after ankle surgery. I knew he's miss our game but that's longer than I thought he'd be out. Wissa is decent for them, but he'll be off to AFCON in a few weeks. I wonder if they'll refuse to sell Toney now. He's due back in mid January and been linked with a few other London clubs.
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Yeah but haven't they got nearly a team out injured?
No, Tottenham are the only team with any injuries.
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I see Mbueno is out for 12 weeks after ankle surgery. I knew he's miss our game but that's longer than I thought he'd be out. Wissa is decent for them, but he'll be off to AFCON in a few weeks. I wonder if they'll refuse to sell Toney now. He's due back in mid January and been linked with a few other London clubs.
A Gooner cuts my hair (went yesterday) and he wants Arsenal to sign Toney in Jan. Fair enough, but I said that I think he'll probably stay at Brentford till the summer. "If that's the case we won't bother, we'll go for Osimhen in the summer instead, his release clause is only £112million", was his response. For good measure, he added the league is between them and Liverpool. And he's one of the 'alright' ones. ::)
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Yeah but haven't they got nearly a team out injured?
No, Tottenham are the only team with any injuries.
RIP BOBBY BENTANCUR
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Yeah but haven't they got nearly a team out injured?
No, Tottenham are the only team with any injuries.
And everyone's second team.
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Yeah but haven't they got nearly a team out injured?
No, Tottenham are the only team with any injuries.
RIP BOBBY BENTANCUR
Matthew Cash will pay for his crimes.
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Yeah but haven't they got nearly a team out injured?
No, Tottenham are the only team with any injuries.
RIP BOBBY BENTANCUR
Matthew Cash will pay for his crimes.
You call him Matthew, DEATHEW more like.
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Yeah but haven't they got nearly a team out injured?
No, Tottenham are the only team with any injuries.
RIP BOBBY BENTANCUR
Matthew Cash will pay for his crimes.
the butcher of Aston
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Who is the amateur who set up the pre match thread?
Pre-match. Fucking amateur!
Wow. I was joking. Did someone shit in your alphabet spaghetti? Hope you get as fired up with everyone else who puts thread at the end of the sentence.
I think he knows that.
Of course I do. I just didn't put a winky, did I?
And yes, 'thread' is superfluous as all you need is a clear subject title. For example: "Aston Villa vs Real Madrid Champions League Final Post-Match". We know it's a thread.
Nothing wrong with promoting clear communication. Obviously anyone writing titles like "Am I the only one...?" or "Do people think that...?", requiring you to click through to discover the subject need a severe kicking at least.
Hey Toronto! You have misinterpreted a post, not for the first time either. Perhaps a response to clear things up?
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Not rocket science as I’m sure it’s generally the case for all games, but really important we get an early goal.
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Not rocket science as I’m sure it’s generally the case for all games, but really important we get an early goal.
Or just don’t concede one.
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These next few games feel like very big ones. When you look at the fixtures list for December the Arsenal and City games were the ones that stood out. I would have hoped to get something out of 1 of them, but now that we've actually gone and won them both, it makes the "easier" fixtures seem like must wins, otherwise it negates those 2 great wins.
Expectations have been adjusted a little bit, and as much as people said we had to beat City and Arsenal to be considered in the title race, we really need to be beating the mid table teams, preferably comfortably, if we really want to be in the title race.
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win the next 2 , good chance will be sat top of the league on 25th Dec
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win the next 2 , good chance will be sat top of the league on 25th Dec
The team's that top at Xmas has won 10 of the last 15 PL titles. Of the 5 that didn't, it was Liverpool who led on four occasions plus Arsenal last season.
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win the next 2 , good chance will be sat top of the league on 25th Dec
The team's that top at Xmas has won 10 of the last 15 PL titles. Of the 5 that didn't, it was Liverpool who led on four occasions plus Arsenal last year.
So there's a good chance we win it as long as Man City aren't top on Christmas Day.
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win the next 2 , good chance will be sat top of the league on 25th Dec
The team's that top at Xmas has won 10 of the last 15 PL titles. Of the 5 that didn't, it was Liverpool who led on four occasions plus Arsenal last year.
jingle bells jingle bells
jingle all the way....
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win the next 2 , good chance will be sat top of the league on 25th Dec
The team's that top at Xmas has won 10 of the last 15 PL titles. Of the 5 that didn't, it was Liverpool who led on four occasions plus Arsenal last year.
So there's a good chance we win it as long as Man City aren't top on Christmas Day.
Or if you want a less attractive omen, I'd bet we're the last team to be top at Christmas and then go on to not even finish in the top four.
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win the next 2 , good chance will be sat top of the league on 25th Dec
The team's that top at Xmas has won 10 of the last 15 PL titles. Of the 5 that didn't, it was Liverpool who led on four occasions plus Arsenal last year.
So there's a good chance we win it as long as Man City aren't top on Christmas Day.
Or if you want a less attractive omen, I'd bet we're the last team to be top at Christmas and then go on to not even finish in the top four.
That’s the Christmas spirit
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Living proof that every dog has its day. Law of averages. In last pre match Premier League thread, predicted we would beat Arses 1-0 and McGinn to score.
Another tough one. A game of chess with studs!!
We have Unai, so 1-2 to the Villa. Watkins and Konsa to score.
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, only to go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, and then go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
I'm afraid that is indeed the essence of the Villa curse. Unai might not know what he's up against.
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, only to go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
I get a bit nervous when we start getting confident and lots of media attention.
They have their 3 best players out, we have to do the opposite to what we did at Forest.
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, only to go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
I get a bit nervous when we start getting confident and lots of media attention.
They have their 3 best players out, we have to do the opposite to what we did at Forest.
I feel really confident about this one, that will last till about 1.50pm, when that nagging voice about Villaitis that Ive been suppressing for the last week, starts becoming a foghorn. If anyone has the cure it Unai.
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Really don't get the nervousness , if we have any aspirations of top 4 looking at their depleted side we have to win this. we should go into this confident
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I'm not expecting them to be particularly dirty or physical. Their fouls and stats just don't indicate that.
What they do well are set pieces, whilst they favour long throws as soon as they're in the attacking third.
So they will probably play a higher percentage of long balls than other teams, but I know the management team will be well prepared.
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I'm nervous because it's the Villa and at Brentford, we are traditionally crap.
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Traditionally, we would get battered by Citeh and Arsenal too so our traditions are not immutable.
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We haven't played consistently well in a single away game yet, even the games we've won. So we really need Emery to get the form up to something approaching the home form, as there's no really good reason for it not being. The results and performances against Wolves, Forest and Bournemouth weren't great, let's not add Brentford to the list of underwhelming teams we've failed to beat away.
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Whilst the away form.could be better, I'm sure every team has something it needs to work on. Just looked at the table again and you know what, we're doing ok.
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Whilst the away form.could be better, I'm sure every team has something it needs to work on. Just looked at the table again and you know what, we're doing ok.
I don't think anybody has said we're not. But if we want to do even better, then the away form needs to improve. Emery has said this himself several times, so take it up with him.
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Anyway.....tough game again tomorrow. It's a shame Luiz and Digne are out but a rest will do them god as well. Not sure how to call this one. December was alway going to be taxing but we seem to be doing ok so far half way through.
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Away. P 8 W 3 D 2 L 3
Needs to improve.
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What they do well are set pieces, whilst they favour long throws as soon as they're in the attacking third.
So they will probably play a higher percentage of long balls than other teams, but I know the management team will be well prepared.
on that basis i'd probably play the 3 CB's for extra height and maybe Zaniolo aswell for some physicality
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, only to go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
Would be the least surprising turn of events in the history of football.
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Whilst the away form.could be better, I'm sure every team has something it needs to work on. Just looked at the table again and you know what, we're doing ok.
I don't think anybody has said we're not. But if we want to do even better, then the away form needs to improve. Emery has said this himself several times, so take it up with him.
I was reading some stuff about teams that were top of the league at Christmas and I can't remember which year, but Liverpool only lost 2 games all season, they finished second and it was a string of draws that cost them.
It sounds obvious but it only takes a few losses to take you out of the title race completely, but draws will keep you there or there abouts but ultimately cost you in the end. We really need to be winning a lot more away games.
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I've mentioned before that Man Utd finished comfortably in 4th place last season, whilst picking up only one point away from home against teams who finished in the top nine. At the moment we are more or less accomplishing the win at home draw away formula required for a place at or near the top, in the context of the season's endeavours a draw tomorrow would not be at all a bad result.
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We haven't played consistently well in a single away game yet, even the games we've won. So we really need Emery to get the form up to something approaching the home form, as there's no really good reason for it not being. The results and performances against Wolves, Forest and Bournemouth weren't great, let's not add Brentford to the list of underwhelming teams we've failed to beat away.
Burnley probably the one game you could say we played well from the start and deserved to win. The others we didn’t do so well or rode our luck if we won.
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In my opinion the only thing that stops us winning tomorrow is attitude
If we go out with the same attitude as we did against Arsenal and Man City we will win
But I’ve noticed away from home and especially against forest The body language is that of ‘ we’er better than you’ We’ve come to win without really trying very hard.
I know it doesn’t come from the manager but players can think they don’t have to be 100% at it, they become sloppy, and a little bit arrogant because they know they are better players, but in this league your attitude has to be spot on or we don’t win
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Dendonker in for Luiz isn't exactly seamless, think we may need to be s bit more creative unless we are going to grind out a win. As long as 3 points is the end result it doesn't really matter
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Really don't get the nervousness , if we have any aspirations of top 4 looking at their depleted side we have to win this. we should go into this confident
Ill always be nervous before nearly all Villa games, adrenalin and all that. Its not about not having faith in the team or anything like that. If I could be bothered to do a half arsed pyscho analysis of myself, the conclusion would be it’s probably part of the enjoyment.
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Not sure how anyone is confident when we are out four starters and away. Sphincter already tight.
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I have a weird feeling that we just might be about to witness UE's first ever 0-0 in England...
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I have a weird feeling that we just might be about to witness UE's first ever 0-0 in England...
I think we'll win the league before we have a 0-0
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One look at that League Table should be enough motivation for tomorrow....
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Tarquins to lose and Bingo to come unstuck. Villa top on Sunday. Lump on!
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It would be sensational if we can even go up one spot this weekend let alone find ourselves top. But there is a chance.
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It would be sensational if we can even go up one spot this weekend let alone find ourselves top. But there is a chance.
Win tomorrow, then beat Sheffield United on Friday and we're top for the night whatever happens. Then the day after Liverpool and Arsenal play each other, so we'd be second at least.
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It would be sensational if we can even go up one spot this weekend let alone find ourselves top. But there is a chance.
Win tomorrow, then beat Sheffield United on Friday and we're top for the night whatever happens. Then the day after Liverpool and Arsenal play each other, so we'd be second at least.
Just sensational whatever happens how much we’ve improved and how far we’ve come in just over 12 months. Tomorrow will be bloody hard, but we should beat Sheff Utd. Even 4 points from these two games would be ace.
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I have a weird feeling that we just might be about to witness UE's first ever 0-0 in England...
Against a team who are missing, what, seven first team starters? Nah, if we can't beat them tomorrow we may as well give up. All we need is a team of SJM's. 0-4 Villa. And I'm giving full respect to Brentford Nylons. A well run club and all that jazz..
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Is Ben Mee fit to play? If so, unleash Matty Cash
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We haven't played consistently well in a single away game yet, even the games we've won. So we really need Emery to get the form up to something approaching the home form, as there's no really good reason for it not being. The results and performances against Wolves, Forest and Bournemouth weren't great, let's not add Brentford to the list of underwhelming teams we've failed to beat away.
Burnley probably the one game you could say we played well from the start and deserved to win. The others we didn’t do so well or rode our luck if we won.
We just seem to become a bit ragged at times away from home when we are put under pressure and just need to develop the ability to tighten up and hit teams on the counter for periods of the game.
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Try and not concede early. Happened too often away from home in league
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Try and not concede early. Happened too often away from home in league
Yep scoring first is really important - is in most games, but in terms of momentum away it’s really key.
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, only to go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
I'm fully expecting this to happen.
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We haven't played consistently well in a single away game yet, even the games we've won. So we really need Emery to get the form up to something approaching the home form, as there's no really good reason for it not being. The results and performances against Wolves, Forest and Bournemouth weren't great, let's not add Brentford to the list of underwhelming teams we've failed to beat away.
On the other hand Wolves are a very decent side at times and Bournemouth have proved to have turned a corner. The Forest game was a disaster. However the team must have discussed this as McGinn mentioned our away form needing to improve in an interview this week.
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If you look at the teams around us, we're all only a few points apart which means others have dropped points at various stages as well. Man City have less points as they've ever had at this stage under Guardiola apparently. We've also had the extra games to contend with as well. The manager wants the away from the improve but at the same time, three defeats in 16 up to now is a positive way of looking at it.
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, only to go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
I'm fully expecting this to happen.
Yes that’s my fear.
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We haven't played consistently well in a single away game yet, even the games we've won. So we really need Emery to get the form up to something approaching the home form, as there's no really good reason for it not being. The results and performances against Wolves, Forest and Bournemouth weren't great, let's not add Brentford to the list of underwhelming teams we've failed to beat away.
On the other hand Wolves are a very decent side at times and Bournemouth have proved to have turned a corner. The Forest game was a disaster. However the team must have discussed this as McGinn mentioned our away form needing to improve in an interview this week.
Bournemouth have won 4 out of their last 5 games, with our draw away to them now looking a very good point.
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It would be very Aston Villa to have suddenly garnered TONS of content discussing whether we are title contenders, in both traditional and digital media, only to go on to limp to a piss poor defeat at Brentford.
I'm fully expecting this to happen.
Yes that’s my fear.
If we want to be top 4 contenders we have to start taking 3 points in these sort of games.
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Hopefully, Tiliemans and Bailey both make it. Tielemans being out as well would weaken the midfield a tad with Doug already being out.
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I've gone for a draw, as I did with the last two games. A win would be brilliant to set the tone for the festive period, and hopefully we're looking back tonight saying it was a good time to play Brentford with their injuries.
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Very nervous about this one, its the kind of game we should be bang up for and expect the result, then play really badly and lose.
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Very nervous about this one, its the kind of game we should be bang up for and expect the result, then play really badly and lose.
Think we will stamp our authority on the game early on through likes of Watkins and McGinn.
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Win lose or draw when we look at the table at the end of the day we will still be doing well
And I think that’s the problem if we are to be top four contenders or even better We need to win these games, we need to be demanding and pushing on like Emery keeps saying
If we lose, there should be a fall out there should be an inquest there should be big disappointment all round, we as fans must become as demanding as the manager
Just going back to ‘well we’re doing okay’ isn’t good enough anymore
We are one of the big boys and we are in with the big boys right now for the first time in a very long time
So we need to go to Brentford 100% focused, take the points go Top next Friday, no excuses
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I think we also need to understand that we are not going to win every game. We are going to get a defeat here and there and have some games where we don't click but as long as we learn and bounce back quickly from it, that's good and also a sign of good mentality.
You know though, 15 home wins on the bounce and a chance to go top of the league today, yeah, so far we're doing ok.
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Is Ben Mee fit to play? If so, unleash Matty Cash
Is Ben Mee fit to be called a footballer?
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I think we also need to understand that we are not going to win every game. We are going to get a defeat here and there and have some games where we don't click but as long as we learn and bounce back quickly from it, that's good and also a sign of good mentality.
You know though, 15 home wins on the bounce and a chance to go top of the league today, yeah, so far we're doing ok.
Yeah we are doing okay but we’ve got to keep doing okay
In fairness Clampy and you’re not gonna like this you’ve got a long tradition on here for settling for second best, average has always been good enough for you
If it was up to you, we still be in the championship with Steve Bruce’s manager, and I’m not saying that as a joke I’m saying that in all seriousness
That’s the difference
We’ve moved on now , We are as big a club as anyone outside of Liverpool and Manchester United, and with the manager and structure as it is the demands of far higher
If we lose today, you’ll be on here later saying well look at the league table we doing okay because that’s good enough for you, but if we are to compete with Arsenal, Man City Liverpool and the others for a top 4 position or better we have to be as demanding as possible
Pep, Klopp and Emery have one thing in common they are obsessed with the winning and not just that but constant improvement, doing okay is not good enough for them
That’s where we are and it’s a high pressure environment
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At the start of the season I would have taken qualifying for the Europa, either by league position or winning the Conference, as a great achievement this season, a forward step on a longer journey. But after the last 2 league games we find ourselves in an almost unbelievable position and the idea starts to creep in that finishing 5th or 6th would now be a bit of a disaster. And so games like this feel hugely important and if we don't get 3 points it feels like more than just a game lost.
When I find that idea creeping in I do try to take a step back and be sensible, thinking about where we were a little over a year ago, and where we've been for a long time, and try to just enjoy each week, each performance, and each win, which come a lot more frequently than they used to.
But still, must win today! 😄
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Like I said, we're not going to win every game sadly. We'll trip up now and again, that just the way it is. We do seem to bounce back very well under Emery which is good.
As for how I come across on here, I'm not overly worried about that or 'couldnt give a rats ass' to put it more bluntly. I'd rather be positive than look for the negatives and at the moment on the field, there's not a lot to be negative about.
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Blue kit today. Last seen at Forest 😬
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Brentford did the double over Man City last season, it wasn't the end of the world for MC. Which proves that the reality is that every team drops points, there's a difference between knowing that will happen at times through the season and being disappointed but not going all Rita Hayworth when it does, to wanting inquests every time it happens, to just shrugging our shoulders in blind acceptance and not being bothered.
Most important thing is how you bounce back from a disappointing result. One of the most impressive things under Unai is we haven't had those lengthy winless runs that have dogged us under pretty much every manager in my time. Our longest is 3 which was that bonkers run including Leicester and Arsenal, and only one other time have we gone 2 league games without a win.
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Fecking hell, it’s sounds like some are revving up for a loss and prepared to accept it.
Fuck that.
C’mon me villa babbies, fuck the fuckers today AND Sheff U on Friday night and let’s bask in the glory of being TOP OF THE FUCKING LEAGUE *
* even if only for a few hours
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Fecking hell, it’s sounds like some are revving up for a loss and prepared to accept it.
Fuck that.
C’mon me villa babbies, fuck the fuckers today AND Sheff U on Friday night and let’s bask in the glory of being TOP OF THE FUCKING LEAGUE *
* even if only for a few hours
Here Here 👏
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Fecking hell, it’s sounds like some are revving up for a loss and prepared to accept it.
Fuck that.
C’mon me villa babbies, fuck the fuckers today AND Sheff U on Friday night and let’s bask in the glory of being TOP OF THE FUCKING LEAGUE *
* even if only for a few hours
Here Here 👏
If they had Toney and Mba…the other one available we would have been looking at a heavy defeat if you read some of the comments on here. Whoever plays Villa in the league has a chance but our form suggests we should win this game. Win it will be.
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Brentford did the double over Man City last season, it wasn't the end of the world for MC. Which proves that the reality is that every team drops points, there's a difference between knowing that will happen at times through the season and being disappointed but not going all Rita Hayworth when it does, to wanting inquests every time it happens, to just shrugging our shoulders in blind acceptance and not being bothered.
Most important thing is how you bounce back from a disappointing result. One of the most impressive things under Unai is we haven't had those lengthy winless runs that have dogged us under pretty much every manager in my time. Our longest is 3 which was that bonkers run including Leicester and Arsenal, and only one other time have we gone 2 league games without a win.
Now I see how you post scores so quickly PWS, by preparing for all scenarios. I take it the above could be the first on post match thread? ;D
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I think we also need to understand that we are not going to win every game. We are going to get a defeat here and there and have some games where we don't click but as long as we learn and bounce back quickly from it, that's good and also a sign of good mentality.
You know though, 15 home wins on the bounce and a chance to go top of the league today, yeah, so far we're doing ok.
Yeah we are doing okay but we’ve got to keep doing okay
In fairness Clampy and you’re not gonna like this you’ve got a long tradition on here for settling for second best, average has always been good enough for you
If it was up to you, we still be in the championship with Steve Bruce’s manager, and I’m not saying that as a joke I’m saying that in all seriousness
That’s the difference
We’ve moved on now , We are as big a club as anyone outside of Liverpool and Manchester United, and with the manager and structure as it is the demands of far higher
If we lose today, you’ll be on here later saying well look at the league table we doing okay because that’s good enough for you, but if we are to compete with Arsenal, Man City Liverpool and the others for a top 4 position or better we have to be as demanding as possible
Pep, Klopp and Emery have one thing in common they are obsessed with the winning and not just that but constant improvement, doing okay is not good enough for them
That’s where we are and it’s a high pressure environment
Context though. A year ago we just wanted to make sure we didn't get dragged into a relegation battle following the start we made under Gerrard. I don't think anyone would have foreseen that a year on, the media would be including our name in the conversation for the title.
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Now I see how you post scores so quickly PWS, by preparing for all scenarios. I take it the above could be the first on post match thread? ;D
I thought this was the post match thread?
Anyway, we drew 1-1.
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1-3.
Early goal
Nice win.
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I think we also need to understand that we are not going to win every game. We are going to get a defeat here and there and have some games where we don't click but as long as we learn and bounce back quickly from it, that's good and also a sign of good mentality.
You know though, 15 home wins on the bounce and a chance to go top of the league today, yeah, so far we're doing ok.
Yeah we are doing okay but we’ve got to keep doing okay
In fairness Clampy and you’re not gonna like this you’ve got a long tradition on here for settling for second best, average has always been good enough for you
If it was up to you, we still be in the championship with Steve Bruce’s manager, and I’m not saying that as a joke I’m saying that in all seriousness
That’s the difference
We’ve moved on now , We are as big a club as anyone outside of Liverpool and Manchester United, and with the manager and structure as it is the demands of far higher
If we lose today, you’ll be on here later saying well look at the league table we doing okay because that’s good enough for you, but if we are to compete with Arsenal, Man City Liverpool and the others for a top 4 position or better we have to be as demanding as possible
Pep, Klopp and Emery have one thing in common they are obsessed with the winning and not just that but constant improvement, doing okay is not good enough for them
That’s where we are and it’s a high pressure environment
Well said.
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Now I see how you post scores so quickly PWS, by preparing for all scenarios. I take it the above could be the first on post match thread? ;D
I thought this was the post match thread?
Anyway, we drew 1-1.
Who is starting the Match Thread thread? What time does it open?
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Title contenders beat midtable sides. We're competing for the title. Win Villa.
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^this
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Reckon Bailey is fit.
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COYVB's
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Like flies to wanton Villa boys. We will funeral them for our sport.
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I bloody forgot Dougie is suspended.
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Couple of posts on Twitter saying Bailey has travelled but no sign of Tielemans.
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Couple of posts on Twitter saying Bailey has travelled but no sign of Tielemans.
Unai will have had him hidden in a ball bag. Sneak him into the changing room and stick his name on the sheet at the last minute. Mind games, lads!
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Bailey's meant to have said something on social media to say that he's available for selection.
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I hope this doesn’t mean a start for the Donk? No offence to the lad, but the game is played so much slower with him on the pitch.
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BBC's opening on their live coverage. I don't think I'll ever get used to it.
Hello and welcome to our Premier League coverage which could be a big one at the top of the table.
Title rivals Liverpool, Arsenal and Aston Villa are all in action.
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I hope this doesn’t mean a start for the Donk? No offence to the lad, but the game is played so much slower with him on the pitch.
Indeed. Matty Cash in midfield could be incoming also.