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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Risso on January 09, 2023, 10:43:25 AM
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Aston Villa vs Leeds United
Friday 13 January 2023
Villa Park
Kick off 8.00pm
TV - Sky Sports
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0-2.
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Right, let's have it then. Another shit time for a kick off. Hope it's a better spectacle than the last Friday evening kick off, against Southampton.
They owe us a huge apology, so a 4-0 thumping of Dirty Leeds is required. Don't even think about playing badly or god forbid, losing.
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Another team who will want it more than us.
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0-2.
Yep, probably.
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We will win on Friday night…I’m going 3-1
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Friday the 13th you say….
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Bounce back after yesterday is going to be very important.
Martinez, Konsa, Mings, Kamara all need to return. Ramsey and McGinn to start if fit. The best of the rest (unless we’ve made a signing) need to fill out the rest of the team (eg Sanson) with the deadbeats from yesterday consigned to hospitality duty. After the disappointment of yesterday the fans need to be brought back on board quickly with a win! UTV!
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Win.
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I don't want to pick on him but Bailey is Blues and needs ridding of.
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Friday the 13th you say….
At least its not Sunday the 8th.
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Big win for the Villa - very confident we will see a reaction.
3-1
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I don't want to pick on him but Bailey is Blues and needs ridding of.
I think the fans might turn on him at some point.
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I think this Friday is really important. It's much too early for Emery getting stick, but the fans' patience is wearing thin as seen by the boos at half time against Wolves. I didn't agree with that, but I think there's a feeling that the home crowd is bored of another year of mediocrity. We need to come out and get at Leeds from the off. An early goal for Leeds and I worry that things could get a bit tetchy, and then our weak-spirited players will sag.
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We'll win but I'm still pissed off about the cup.
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I think we'll come out firing.
Martinez, Mings and Kamara will all be starting so straight away the spine of the team has better mentality and quality to it.
No idea what we'll be putting out infront of that though. Ramsey will start though and he had a stormer v them last season.
I think we'll come out firing in this. If not then half the squad need to be sold if they're not going to be motivated under Emery.
3-1 win.
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2-1 Villa win.
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Another team who will want it more than us.
This is the worry, yes.
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Martinez
Young Konsa Mings Digne
Kamara Luiz
McGinn. Moreno
Buendia Watkins
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Martinez
Young Konsa Mings Digne
Kamara Luiz
McGinn. Ramsey
Buendia Ings
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Right, let's have it then. Another shit time for a kick off. Hope it's a better spectacle than the last Friday evening kick off, against Southampton.
They owe us a huge apology, so a 4-0 thumping of Dirty Leeds is required. Don't even think about playing badly or god forbid, losing.
Hope you're right as I'm flying over for this one. Last time I went to Villa-Leeds was Wembley '96, I'd settle for a repeat of that.
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I doubt Mcginn will be fit, unlikely to start Moreno if signed by then.
No idea who I would play in the front 3 with Watkins.
Buendia Bailey Coutinho- they are all shite.
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Martinez
Young Konsa Mings Digne
Kamara Luiz
McGinn. Ramsey
Bailey Watkins
Leeds will come at us so Watkins and Bailey's pace is needed to get behind them and try to keep them, on the back foot. Hopefully Ramsey scores as nobody else can hit a barn door.
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Right, let's have it then. Another shit time for a kick off. Hope it's a better spectacle than the last Friday evening kick off, against Southampton.
They owe us a huge apology, so a 4-0 thumping of Dirty Leeds is required. Don't even think about playing badly or god forbid, losing.
Yep that’s where I am.
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Martinez
Young Konsa Mings Digne
Kamara Luiz
McGinn. Ramsey
Bailey Watkins
Leeds will come at us so Watkins and Bailey's pace is needed to get behind them and try to keep them, on the back foot. Hopefully Ramsey scores as nobody else can hit a barn door.
Bailey's pace is a myth.
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3-0
UE to give them all a massive bollocking and the players react
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Bailey's pace is a myth.
He can beat Usain Bolt with the ball at his feet you know!
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Martinez
Young Konsa Mings Digne
Kamara Luiz
McGinn. Ramsey
Bailey Watkins
Leeds will come at us so Watkins and Bailey's pace is needed to get behind them and try to keep them, on the back foot. Hopefully Ramsey scores as nobody else can hit a barn door.
Bailey's pace is a myth.
5) Leon Bailey – 22.62 mph (36.40 km/h)
You can't be a slouch when you count Usain Bolt among your friends - and nobody could accuse Bailey of being one of them. Leverkusen’s former Jamaican winger set the third-fastest speed since records began in the Bundesliga at the time when he reached 22.62 mph on Matchday 33 of 2019/20 against Hertha Berlin. He’s now down to fifth.
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Leeds are not better than us but they’ll work much harder. 0-2.
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As of 21st March 2022, he was 6th fastest in the Premier League. Behind 5/ Kyle Walker 4/Przemyslaw Placheta (Norwich) 3/ Patson Daka (Leicester) 2/ Ismaila Sarr and 1/ Daniel James.
Interestingly, our very own Trezeguet is Joint 4th fastest ever.
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I'll be there, so there had better be a reaction.
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Post deleted. Wrong thread.
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2-0 win
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If Emery insists on sticking with 4-4-2, I'd go:
Martinez
Cash/Young (if Cash is injured ) Konsa Mings Digne
McGinn Kamara Luiz Ramsey
Ings Watkins
Sanson for McGinn if Meatball isn't back.
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I'd bench Bailey and Buendia and play Watkins, Ings and Coutinho.
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Are we really back around to giving the Watkins/Ings "partnership" another go?
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Are we really back around to giving the Watkins/Ings "partnership" another go?
It's not ideal, but it makes sense if he's going to continue to use a 4-4-2 formation. Can't be any worse than Bailey there, or Buendia.
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We need a quick start or I can see the fans getting frustrated if Leeds go 1 up and we're still playing walking football.
Their manager is a proper bellend as well.
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Villa don't do 'reactions' after another crap performance so Leeds to show everything that Villa lack and win!
Going to be a horrible Friday night and 'knives' will be out for players and coaches!
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0-0
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I'd bench Bailey and Buendia and play Watkins, Ings and Coutinho.
Did you watch Phil play on Sunday???
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Thankfully Kamara will be playing from the start. He's not just a good player, he elevates those around him. Also Martinez.
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Martinez
Digne
Mings
Konsa
Young
Kamara
Luiz
Ramsey
Buendia
Bailey
Watkins
So 442 but going in to a 424 attack wise
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Martinez
Digne
Mings
Konsa
Young
Kamara
Luiz
Ramsey
Buendia
Bailey
Watkins
So 442 but going in to a 424 attack wise
This is the probably the team, but if Bailey plays i hope Emery plays him on the left, the handful of times he’s played there he’s looked a different player.
3-1 (Watkins, Ramsey, Bailey)
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I would like to see 0-3 (Mings hat trick) but I think I will see 0-3 (Watkins, Luiz, Ramsay). UTV!
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I would like to see 0-3 (Mings hat trick) but I think I will see 0-3 (Watkins, Luiz, Ramsay). UTV!
THREE own goals?
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Are we really back around to giving the Watkins/Ings "partnership" another go?
It's not ideal, but it makes sense if he's going to continue to use a 4-4-2 formation. Can't be any worse than Bailey there, or Buendia.
And we sent Archer to Siberia.
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I was shielded somewhat from Sunday not having attended, I was at a formal do and only discovered the result via the cascade of pisstaking messages from those who don't support, but follow every move and minute of our club. I will confess to being dumbstruck for a while and I'm still at a loss for words somewhat ahead of the next game.
We need to win, we don't need Bailey and really, what is it going to take for that goalkeeper to be fucked off out of it?
1-0
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I would like to see 0-3 (Mings hat trick) but I think I will see 0-3 (Watkins, Luiz, Ramsay). UTV!
THREE own goals?
Ha! I thought it was away. Revise that to 4-0 (Mings, Mings, Mings, Mings).
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A loss
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The result Sunday does not help our cause.
They are a very aggressive dirty bunch of **** and we know what to expect. Just hope the manager and players are prepared for it.
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I would like to see 0-3 (Mings hat trick) but I think I will see 0-3 (Watkins, Luiz, Ramsay). UTV!
THREE own goals?
Ha! I thought it was away. Revise that to 4-0 (Mings, Mings, Mings, Mings).
I would be deliriously happy with that. It would go down as one of my favourite wins ever.
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I fancy a win. They are a poor team in my opinion and if we can get back to the type of disciplined performance we gave at Spurs we should run out winners.
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We should have beaten them at Elland Road. We will win 3-1
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They are a poor team but they’re much aggressive and hard working. I think they’ll f*** us up .
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I would love it if we rammed Ted Lasso's "Villa are boring" comment down his twattish throat.
I really hope our lot are ashamed and hurting from Sunday - they need a rip roaring performance not the tepid tippy tappy bullshit we saw on Sunday.
Martinez
Young Konsa Mings Digne (Assume new guy not available)
Luiz Kamara
Ramsay Coutinhio Bailey
Watkins
3-1 (Watkins, Ramsay, Bailey)
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Coutinho was so shite last time out but do think he should start given his performance against these last season.
Final chance for him.
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They are a poor team but they’re much aggressive and hard working. I think they’ll f*** us up .
We dominated them everywhere but the score board in Leeds earlier in the season. Watkins unfortunately had a bit of a nightmare that night. Match them physically and we have better players. From what I've seen of Leeds under Marsch, they can lose their discipline very quickly when rattled. So we need the likes of Mings in the refs face from the first minute to ensure he does his job with yellows etc
McGinn out is a blow with the Donk suspended.
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They are a poor team but they’re much aggressive and hard working. I think they’ll f*** us up .
We dominated them everywhere but the score board in Leeds earlier in the season. Watkins unfortunately had a bit of a nightmare that night. Match them physically and we have better players. From what I've seen of Leeds under Marsch, they can lose their discipline very quickly when rattled. So we need the likes of Mings in the refs face from the first minute to ensure he does his job with yellows etc
McGinn out is a blow with the Donk suspended.
Ramsey is back though, and Sanson was the one positive on Sunday, which hopefully means McGinn isn't missed too much. That match at their place was another example of us misfiring going forward.
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Sanson was bang average as per.
Bailey could have finished his goal.
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The result Sunday does not help our cause.
They are a very aggressive dirty bunch of **** and we know what to expect. Just hope the manager and players are prepared for it.
That is the problem though, Villa are never prepared for anything! >:(
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Apart from Spurs. Man Utd, Brighton.....
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Sanson was bang average as per.
Bailey could have finished his goal.
Sanson took it wider to the right before shooting. Bailey would have cut in to his left, tried to beat at least two defenders and then lost the ball.
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Could be right to be fair BV
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Wasn't in the corner though I fancy Olsen might have saved it.
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Sanson was bang average as per.
Bailey could have finished his goal.
I thought so too, but that still made him our best player. I don’t really see what he brings beyond tidiness though, whereas with many of the players he outperformed and who were dreadful on Sunday, at least you know what they bring if they’re on it.
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Sanson was bang average as per.
Bailey could have finished his goal.
I thought so too, but that still made him our best player. I don’t really see what he brings beyond tidiness though, whereas with many of the players he outperformed and who were dreadful on Sunday, at least you know what they bring if they’re on it.
Agreed.
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I would love it if we rammed Ted Lasso's "Villa are boring" comment down his twattish throat.
I really hope our lot are ashamed and hurting from Sunday - they need a rip roaring performance not the tepid tippy tappy bullshit we saw on Sunday.
Martinez
Young Konsa Mings Digne (Assume new guy not available)
Luiz Kamara
Ramsay Coutinhio Bailey
Watkins
3-1 (Watkins, Ramsay, Bailey)
He had a point on that occasion to be fair. Marsch is a discourteous man though, generally.
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Apart from Spurs. Man Utd, Brighton.....
They are not physical sides!
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Leeds United are winless in their last six games across all competitions (D3, L3).
They have only won two of their last fifteen games across all competitions.
Hello Aston Villa.
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Leeds United are winless in their last six games across all competitions (D3, L3).
They have only won two of their last fifteen games across all competitions.
Hello Aston Villa.
Do they have a striker that needs to break a duck/drought/record? If so, he's playing the right team.
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Apart from Spurs. Man Utd, Brighton.....
They are not physical sides!
Straws clutched at.
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The result Sunday does not help our cause.
They are a very aggressive dirty bunch of **** and we know what to expect. Just hope the manager and players are prepared for it.
That is the problem though, Villa are never prepared for anything! >:(
I don't understand the amount negativity around. Unai Emerys PL record is as good as anyone we've had in his first 5 PL games. I think he now knows that our squad needs an overhaul as our fringe players have fucked up badly in both Cup competitions and he will start to address that in the coming months. I think we will blow Leeds away on Friday.
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Need to win this one, 4 points should be the minimum from Wolves and these knobs at VP.
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Leeds United are winless in their last six games across all competitions (D3, L3).
They have only won two of their last fifteen games across all competitions.
Hello Aston Villa.
Do they have a striker that needs to break a duck/drought/record? If so, he's playing the right team.
It could only be even more Aston Villa if we managed to start Moreno and he gets injured and is out for the season.
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Presumably that would be just after he had collided with martinez and injured him in the course of scoring an own goal.
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Sanson was bang average as per.
Bailey could have finished his goal.
"As per"? There's been no per-usual to judge him on seeing it was his first start in a year.
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Sanson was bang average as per.
Bailey could have finished his goal.
"As per"? There's been no per-usual to judge him on seeing it was his first start in a year.
bob jokes about gambling adverts with photos of prebuscent looking girls playing with sausages.
Best not get into any dialogue with him.
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Well Damon Green thought he was good craic, so he'll do for me and its good to see him back.
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Leeds United are winless in their last six games across all competitions (D3, L3).
They have only won two of their last fifteen games across all competitions.
Hello Aston Villa.
Do they have a striker that needs to break a duck/drought/record? If so, he's playing the right team.
Bamford to score 5 then! My tv thrown off the balcony as he wheels away in celebration!
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Villa win safety first approach that works after late second half pen.
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I think we'll win. I hope the players have had a bollocking this week and will show some sort of response.
I have no idea who is fit/unfit for this one
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I think we'll win. I hope the players have had a bollocking this week and will show some sort of response.
I have no idea who is fit/unfit for this one
They rarely do though, The inconsistency drives me mad, it's always:
Played well - "if we play like that all season, we'll be ok." Next game, absolute dog muck.
Played badly - "we had a great response in training this week, we'll try to put it right on the pitch." Next game, absolute dog muck
Too many sub-standard players. They did for Smith, they did for Gerrard, and if we don't replace them, they'll do for Emery.
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I think we'll win. I hope the players have had a bollocking this week and will show some sort of response.
I have no idea who is fit/unfit for this one
They rarely do though, The inconsistency drives me mad, it's always:
Played well - "if we play like that all season, we'll be ok." Next game, absolute dog muck.
Played badly - "we had a great response in training this week, we'll try to put it right on the pitch." Next game, absolute dog muck
Too many sub-standard players. They did for Smith, they did for Gerrard, and if we don't replace them, they'll do for Emery.
That looks to be fairly consistent to me , unfortunately.
I think we have sub-standard players too, not necessarily in technique but mentality.
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That looks to be fairly consistent to me , unfortunately.
I think we have sub-standard players too, not necessarily in technique but mentality.
I think it's both mate. They're all capable of doing playing well, or even being excellent, but they're all also prone to not being able to complete a simple 6 yard pass to a team mate or getting a shot within 15 feet of the goal. Often it's in the same game.
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I really hope Unai has a second look at the passing out from the back policy. It was so predictable watching Mings and Konsa both pull wide every time the keeper had the ball against Wolves and we got ourselves into so much unnecessary trouble. Leeds are a high pressing high octane team who could easily embarrass us. It's fine to do it but not every time. Variation is key. When we played Liverpool almost every time we gave them problems it came from a more direct approach involving Ollie Watkins.
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I really hope Unai has a second look at the passing out from the back policy. It was so predictable watching Mings and Konsa both pull wide every time the keeper had the ball against Wolves and we got ourselves into so much unnecessary trouble. Leeds are a high pressing high octane team who could easily embarrass us. It's fine to do it but not every time. Variation is key. When we played Liverpool almost every time we gave them problems it came from a more direct approach involving Ollie Watkins.
It's another thing that drives me mad. We don't look any good at it, at all, as we clearly don't have the players for it. What happens nine times out of 10 is that we roll it out to a defender, they mess around looking for an unmarked team mate, fail to do so, pass it back to the keeper who then punts it up field anyway, usually losing possession.
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It's hardwired into lots of the top teams though now. And it's what Emery does so we need to get used to it as fans and more importantly the players needs to adapt, quickly.
When done well the ball moves quickly and players use the space. When done badly like Sunday, it's ponderous, clueless and dangerous (which also make great names for some of Snow White's little chums)
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Sounds obvious, but we could really do with a convincing win and performance on Friday night. We need it just to shake off Sunday more than anything.
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I think we'll win. I hope the players have had a bollocking this week and will show some sort of response.
I have no idea who is fit/unfit for this one
They rarely do though, The inconsistency drives me mad, it's always:
Played well - "if we play like that all season, we'll be ok." Next game, absolute dog muck.
Played badly - "we had a great response in training this week, we'll try to put it right on the pitch." Next game, absolute dog muck
Too many sub-standard players. They did for Smith, they did for Gerrard, and if we don't replace them, they'll do for Emery.
Agree with a lot of this Risso, though i think Gerrard had a good go and doing for himself to be fair
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I'd keep Kamara and Martinez, and sell everyone else :D
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I'd keep Kamara and Martinez, and sell everyone else :D
Not a bad shout.
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I'd keep Kamara and Martinez, and sell everyone else :D
Add Ramsey to that list.
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I'd keep Kamara and Martinez, and sell everyone else :D
Add Ramsey to that list.
That's a good point. I might keep Moreno, also, depending on how he gets on.
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Avoided even thinking about football this week until today, and I remain pissed off to a degree unreasonable for a grown man. Nothing but a statement-making victory will do for me here. A performance that's basically an apology is what I'm after.
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We are fresh from a humiliation and I'd hate to be in Leeds' position of having to play us when we are so wounded. We will be absolutely rampant and 'at it' on Friday.
FT: Aston Villa 0 Leeds United 2
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I think it's a hangover from that insane Championship game with the walked-in goal, and then being at VP for that Christmas game where we blew a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2 (which was my fault. I'd bought tickets for my Leeds-supporting brother-in-law and nephew. When we scored the second I patted him on the shoulder and said, "merry Christmas". I immediately realised I'd fucked it for us), but I think I fear Leeds more than any other side. Their away fans are always mad up for it too.
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I think it's a hangover from that insane Championship game with the walked-in goal, and then being at VP for that Christmas game where we blew a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2 (which was my fault. I'd bought tickets for my Leeds-supporting brother-in-law and nephew. When we scored the second I patted him on the shoulder and said, "merry Christmas". I immediately realised I'd fucked it for us), but I think I fear Leeds more than any other side. Their away fans are always mad up for it too.
Wasn't that a 3-3 draw where we threw it away? 0 -1 nil down, back to 3-1 in front (3 great goals) only to fall apart and concede 2
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No, we lost 2-3. Kemar Roofe (I think) scored the winner at the death.
Edit: we went 2-0 up in the first half (again, I think).
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No, the 2-3 was where Jack (where is he now) Clarke came on and ripped Elmo to pieces.
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I think it's a hangover from that insane Championship game with the walked-in goal, and then being at VP for that Christmas game where we blew a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2 (which was my fault. I'd bought tickets for my Leeds-supporting brother-in-law and nephew. When we scored the second I patted him on the shoulder and said, "merry Christmas". I immediately realised I'd fucked it for us), but I think I fear Leeds more than any other side. Their away fans are always mad up for it too.
Actually it was me, I'd been eulogising the otherwise resolutely dependable Elmo to my nephew just before he went to pieces
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I think it's a hangover from that insane Championship game with the walked-in goal, and then being at VP for that Christmas game where we blew a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2 (which was my fault. I'd bought tickets for my Leeds-supporting brother-in-law and nephew. When we scored the second I patted him on the shoulder and said, "merry Christmas". I immediately realised I'd fucked it for us), but I think I fear Leeds more than any other side. Their away fans are always mad up for it too.
Actually it was me, I'd been eulogising the otherwise resolutely dependable Elmo to my nephew just before he went to pieces
We were both at fault, Lee. This is what's so good about our relationship.
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I'd keep Kamara and Martinez, and sell everyone else :D
Add Ramsey to that list.
That's a good point. I might keep Moreno, also, depending on how he gets on.
Almost a 5-a-side.
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Bailey couldn't finish a drink.
Needs dropping.
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I think it's a hangover from that insane Championship game with the walked-in goal, and then being at VP for that Christmas game where we blew a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2 (which was my fault. I'd bought tickets for my Leeds-supporting brother-in-law and nephew. When we scored the second I patted him on the shoulder and said, "merry Christmas". I immediately realised I'd fucked it for us), but I think I fear Leeds more than any other side. Their away fans are always mad up for it too.
Wasn't that a 3-3 draw where we threw it away? 0 -1 nil down, back to 3-1 in front (3 great goals) only to fall apart and concede 2
That was this time last year, Coutinhio pulling all the strings, before our defence wobbled.
The 2-3 was in the promotion year for us when they fell apart again. I remember we were 2-0 up but really didnt deserve it, even so with xmas train timetables etc, we were walking back to Aston station when we heard their supporters go nuts.
We have a really good record at Elland Road in recent years, but we haven’t beat them at home for a good four or five seasons. Long overdue
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No, the 2-3 was where Jack (where is he now) Clarke came on and ripped Elmo to pieces.
Spurs signed him up straight after the game but didn't work out and he's at Sunderland now and starting to look good again.
They always turn up at VP whereas we seem to have more comfortable games at Elland Road, haven't conceded a goal up there since they came to join us in the prem.
I think we'll win.
If it's a dispiriting feel sorry for yourself performance from us at home to team barely above bottom 3 then we need to start selling some of these players.
Feels like at a point now where we really have to be ruthless with players instead of giving them endless more chances otherwise it will be same again in 12 months time.
Believe it or not but plenty of premier league clubs have poor cup exits every season....and then go out and win the next league game 2-0.
Fed up of us just going into our shells and not winning a game for two months. It's a mentality that needs to change so let's at least see what the response is first.
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Leeds are a very average team...Liam Cooper still gets a game for example. Not sure if that Junior guy at left back plays much, he's arguably the worst player in the division. Win the midfield battle and we win the game. I think after the week that's in it, we will. Bad start but come back to win comfortably 3-1.
With Sanson reportedly on way out and both McGinn and the Donk unavailable, our midfield options will be limited. Nakamba isn't rated obviously but still worth having him on bench if we needed fresh legs in last 10-15 mins.
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Looking forward to the game tomorrow. For all that they are Dirty Leeds our games against them are rarely dull and they will go at us which should open up some space.
Despite his struggles recently I would play Bailey (unless his head has gone at the minute).
Should be a good game. 2-2.
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I am taking nothing other than an 'Apology' win from this squad.
A home win
A clean sheet
A debut for our new player
Return of Ramsey
Strong end to the game
Keeps the weekend happy and glorious ready for the next game.
I still have the bad taste of the Stevenage defeat in my mouth no matter how many times I brush my teeth, floss or strong mouthwash.
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1-0
Paul McGrath and Shaun Teale will both head the ball against their own crossbar but Andy Townsend will pop up the winner in the second half after a great long pass from Neil Cox.
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Looking forward to the game tomorrow. For all that they are Dirty Leeds our games against them are rarely dull and they will go at us which should open up some space.
Despite his struggles recently I would play Bailey (unless his head has gone at the minute).
Should be a good game. 2-2.
As much as I can't stand them, the games between us and them generate a proper atmosphere
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The result on Sunday was devastating and it could have a very negative impact on our players. Team will be not take to the field in an confident and arrogant mood. I fear a very bad night.
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The result on Sunday was devastating and it could have a very negative impact on our players. Team will be not take to the field in an confident and arrogant mood. I fear a very bad night.
There are likely to be only 3 or 4 from Sunday starting the game so it shouldn’t be a major factor.
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The result on Sunday was devastating and it could have a very negative impact on our players. Team will be not take to the field in an confident and arrogant mood. I fear a very bad night.
If Leeds had lost to Stevenage instead of us, we'd be fearing a backlash.
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Just bloody win Villa!
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The result on Sunday was devastating and it could have a very negative impact on our players. Team will be not take to the field in an confident and arrogant mood. I fear a very bad night.
Absolutely.
No chance in hell I'm getting up at silly o'clock to watch our bang average, overpaid twats ambling around the field, looking second best to another bunch of twats with stupid hot cross bun haircuts.
Still hope we batter them, though
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unable to make the game, so keep a clean sheet please Villa and we will win....:)
UTV
The Doc
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The result on Sunday was devastating and it could have a very negative impact on our players. Team will be not take to the field in an confident and arrogant mood. I fear a very bad night.
There are likely to be only 3 or 4 from Sunday starting the game so it shouldn’t be a major factor.
The negative impact is nullified with the reinstatement of Martinez. An arrogant frame of mind is what did for us against Stevenage, so none of that I hope. Listening to last night's Southampton game when the pundit and commentator were discussing Southampton's next set of fixtures..."They've got Villa who are on a bit of a roll at the moment"
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The result on Sunday was devastating and it could have a very negative impact on our players. Team will be not take to the field in an confident and arrogant mood. I fear a very bad night.
There are likely to be only 3 or 4 from Sunday starting the game so it shouldn’t be a major factor.
The negative impact is nullified with the reinstatement of Martinez. An arrogant frame of mind is what did for us against Stevenage, so none of that I hope. Listening to last night's Southampton game when the pundit and commentator were discussing Southampton's next set of fixtures..."They've got Villa who are on a bit of a roll at the moment"
I think it was Citeh's fixtures, but yeah it made my eyebrow lift
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Just one thing Villa - no more walking football.
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1-0
Paul McGrath and Shaun Teale will both head the ball against their own crossbar but Andy Townsend will pop up the winner in the second half after a great long pass from Neil Cox.
Was working late last night and during a break I must have been feeling masochistic with deadlines pending and managers ready to bark today but I found myself searching for footage of the 90/91 last-gasp FA Cup Third Round defeat at Wimbledon in the fog.
I've read about it a lot on here so was curious to see the lowlights: mid-winter misery, fog and rain, Alan Cork in tight shorts etc.
Alas it doesn't seem to be on Youtube, they only had the original 1-1 VP highlights (Cascarino knock-down to Stuart Gray).
The algorithm steered me towards the 1993 Cup penalty shoot-out defeat to the Don's thoug, in the same round and time of year but different fog. And by 'eck, Stan Staunton and Shaun Teale's penalties were absolute rippers! Deserved to win any shoot-out.
Bozzie pulled up with cramp halfway through and soldiered on but it was in vain, he was still 13 months away from his Tranmere superman exploits.
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1-0
Paul McGrath and Shaun Teale will both head the ball against their own crossbar but Andy Townsend will pop up the winner in the second half after a great long pass from Neil Cox.
Was working late last night and during a break I must have been feeling masochistic with deadlines pending and managers ready to bark today but I found myself searching for footage of the 90/91 last-gasp FA Cup Third Round defeat at Wimbledon in the fog.
I've read about it a lot on here so was curious to see the lowlights: mid-winter misery, fog and rain, Alan Cork in tight shorts etc.
Alas it doesn't seem to be on Youtube, they only had the original 1-1 VP highlights (Cascarino knock-down to Stuart Gray).
The algorithm steered me towards the 1993 Cup penalty shoot-out defeat to the Don's thoug, in the same round and time of year but different fog. And by 'eck, Stan Staunton and Shaun Teale's penalties were absolute rippers! Deserved to win any shoot-out.
Bozzie pulled up with cramp halfway through and soldiered on but it was in vain, he was still 13 months away from his Tranmere superman exploits.
The morning of that Wimbledon game in '93 we had a Solihull Schools Cup game against Tudor Grange, and Lee Hendrie scored all 8 goals for us before the ref, who was our PE teacher, threw in the towel for them with everybody piss wet through.
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Ha! Wasn't he on Villa's books at that stage too? Think he signed YTS in '92.
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He was with Villa yes, but 92-93 was our last year at school.
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Going to say a loss. That way I can’t be disappointed again this weekend!
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Oh goody - the bellend that is Bamford is fit and available to play
What an absolute cheating wanker he is
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Its a coin flip. We could either win comfortable 3-0 or bet absolutely battered 0-4. Depends on how many players decide they want to turn up or not. What odds could we get that the whiny little bitch Jessie Marsch will complain to the media about something regarding Villa? "Its not fair, they are too slow & we cant play against them..." Its called tactics. Dickhead.
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If we win 7 nil we go above Chelsea!
I'd forgotten they're playing Fulham tonight, so if they lose 1 nil, we only need to win 6 nil!
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I'd forgotten they're playing Fulham tonight, so if they lose 1 nil, we only need to win 6 nil!
The big West London derby, bound to get a bit tasty!
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Always disappointed when a match thread is started and the opposition isn't given their proper name (Louzie has got in right on the GTC thread).
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I think we'll win. I hope the players have had a bollocking this week and will show some sort of response.
I have no idea who is fit/unfit for this one
They rarely do though, The inconsistency drives me mad, it's always:
Played well - "if we play like that all season, we'll be ok." Next game, absolute dog muck.
Played badly - "we had a great response in training this week, we'll try to put it right on the pitch." Next game, absolute dog muck
Too many sub-standard players. They did for Smith, they did for Gerrard, and if we don't replace them, they'll do for Emery.
ha! So we only play well if we'd played averagely the previous game!
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Leeds to cop the backlash. 2-0
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https://twitter.com/AVFCMarkM/status/1613580378366935047?s=20&t=iBftYvy6v4dGo-Ym4qIIKA
Needs audio. That just made me do a big childish laugh.
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Silly boyish grin from me. That's brilliant. And very naughty at the same time.
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We have to come flying out of the blocks tomorrow with all guns blazing. We've got to break this habit of allowing teams to seize the initiative on our patch. I heard a stat today that we've won 17 out of our last 37 home games. That is just not good enough and needs to change. Starting tomorrow night.
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we must try not to make Bamford look like Van Basten
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I'd like this selection.
Martinez Captain.
Young, Konsa, Mings, Digne
Kamara, Luiz, Ramsey
Watkins, Ings, Bailey
2-0 Villa Bailey and Ings.
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The result on Sunday was devastating and it could have a very negative impact on our players. Team will be not take to the field in an confident and arrogant mood. I fear a very bad night.
None of Emi, Mings or Kamara played so at least our spine will be stronger and have a better mentality. Feels like a game where Young will come in and use all his cunning experience to needle some of them and their fanbase.
I don't know. Of course we could easily not get the three points but I would prefer it if we just run into a keeper masterclass rather than meekly drawing/losing while endlessly feeling sorry for ourselves.
That mentality has to stop if we ever want to do something in the league.
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We have to come flying out of the blocks tomorrow with all guns blazing. We've got to break this habit of allowing teams to seize the initiative on our patch. I heard a stat today that we've won 17 out of our last 37 home games. That is just not good enough and needs to change. Starting tomorrow night.
We started this season with 4 wins out of 7. Liverpool defeat can happen against side of that quality but Wolves completely dominating us for about 65 minutes was a tad more concerning.
I don't think Leeds can do that though and they're certainly not as good as the back so if we move the ball quick enough we will get space and chances.
Perhaps we should attack the Holte again first half. Worked well in the Brentford and Man. United games and even Liverpool we had 2-3 good chances in first half hour so that tactic does seem to have the players on it from the start of the game more.
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Bailey needs taking out of the firing line, I think.
His confidence is on the floor, and he's a confidence player, not a great combination.
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Bailey needs taking out of the firing line, I think.
His confidence is on the floor, and he's a confidence player, not a great combination.
Agree with this unless Emery decides to switch him back to the left where he seems a lot more effective. He doesnt seem to want to do that though, i think it will be interesting if the new lad plays and whether he replaces Digne or plays in front of him.
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Pivotal game this, win and the confidence comes back and we set ourselves up nicely for the 2nd half of the season. Lose and we start to look like we'll be cut adrift and playing for best of the bottom 9 cup.
I don't rate Leeds, they are absolutely the sort of team we should be putting away at home so going with a 2-0. Watkins and Mings (just to piss them off)
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Bailey needs taking out of the firing line, I think.
His confidence is on the floor, and he's a confidence player, not a great combination.
Bailey is a really tricky one.
He could have a chance in the first 5 minutes, fluff it and his game is over.
Take it and he'll likely go on to have a barn storming game.
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Bailey needs taking out of the firing line, I think.
His confidence is on the floor, and he's a confidence player, not a great combination.
Bailey is a really tricky one.
He could have a chance in the first 5 minutes, fluff it and his game is over.
Take it and he'll likely go on to have a barn storming game.
But.... on recent form, he doesn't deserve to start.
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Feels like a big game - need to bounce back win and some performances from key players. Need top half this season
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Feels like a big game - need to bounce back win and some performances from key players. Need top half this season
Yep, there looks to be a clear top half/bottom half forming, with us and Palace in the middle. Win and we get more of a toe-hold in the top half, and we'll be 8 points clear of the likes of Leicester and Leeds. Lose, and depending on other results, we could be only 4 points off the bottom three. Just as importantly, our team always seem mentally weak, so lose to Leeds and I think Emery will find it hard to pull them out of the downward spiral. Could we please have a nice straightforward 2-0 win please?
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I'd say there were about 20 Villa fans on the flight over from Dublin this morning. Checked into the Crowne Plaza and there's 80 Norwegian Lions staying here. B6 is becoming day tripper central.
Oh and a win would be nice.
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I'd say there were about 20 Villa fans on the flight over from Dublin this morning. Checked into the Crowne Plaza and there's 80 Norwegian Lions staying here. B6 is becoming day tripper central.
Oh and a win would be nice.
Enjoy your weekend fella!
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We can't lose to these - my intern is a Leeds fan. She is a great kid overall but has one very dark stain when it comes to football supporter.
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I'd say there were about 20 Villa fans on the flight over from Dublin this morning. Checked into the Crowne Plaza and there's 80 Norwegian Lions staying here. B6 is becoming day tripper central.
Oh and a win would be nice.
Enjoy your weekend fella!
Cheers, safe to say if I enjoy we'll all enjoy it.
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Rah rah rah! We're going to smash the oiks!
We won't fuck this up. Things will click, and we'll go a good way towards reversing our negative GD. 4-0.
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Could really do with a win here.
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Checked into the Crowne Plaza and there's 80 Norwegian Lions staying here. B6 is becoming day tripper central.
I'd hardly call our loyal, long suffering fans in Norway 'day trippers', you may be ;) but they certainly aren't, they're Villa mad. My eldest daughter now lives in Oslo and is a proud member of the Norwegian Lions but couldn't make the trip due to work commitments. They're a great bunch and I hope we get a win and they get to see it, the beer prices in Brum are extremely attractive compared to their local pubs and bars. Those Villa Vikings like a drink or two.
Enjoy!
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Do you know where they will be drinking before the game?
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My guess would be the Bartons unless the club have lined up something for them.
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Not seen Fred on here for a while, but if he does come on, there are just over 100 tickets left for this game. For a Friday night against Leeds. Not sure where that leaves us vis-a-vis the season ticket waiting list.
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Met Brad Friedel last night and I am taking it as a good omen, 3-0 to the Villa.
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Checked into the Crowne Plaza and there's 80 Norwegian Lions staying here. B6 is becoming day tripper central.
I'd hardly call our loyal, long suffering fans in Norway 'day trippers', you may be ;) but they certainly aren't, they're Villa mad. My eldest daughter now lives in Oslo and is a proud member of the Norwegian Lions but couldn't make the trip due to work commitments. They're a great bunch and I hope we get a win and they get to see it, the beer prices in Brum are extremely attractive compared to their local pubs and bars. Those Villa Vikings like a drink or two.
Enjoy!
I now have visions of a table full of vikings sitting in the Holte Suite singing 'Skol Skol Skol Skol'.
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The bloke who used to run the Norwegians, Trond, had hollow legs.
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Met Brad Friedel last night and I am taking it as a good omen, 3-0 to the Villa.
Where did you meet him, in a dream or on Fashion Street, just off Brick Lane?
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Not seen Fred on here for a while, but if he does come on, there are just over 100 tickets left for this game. For a Friday night against Leeds. Not sure where that leaves us vis-a-vis the season ticket waiting list.
Liar Liar pants on fire
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This is the one match I really want to win as I despise Leeds. It goes back to the 70s as a child walking home with my parents after a match against Leeds. I remember being really frightened as the police shoved us and other fans into a corner and glass rained down all around us.
Come on Villa fight back, let's smash em in the right way.
To be fair this happened a lot in the 70s but the Leeds incident sticks in my mind the most.
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The bloke who used to run the Norwegians, Trond, had hollow legs.
He's still going strong, though not sure if he's over today. Talking of Trond's legs, surprised you never had his broken when he set up magazine/fanzine Villa Mania back in 93. ;)
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Could really do with a win here.
Might be getting massively carried away here seeing as we got turned over by a League Two outfit last weekend, but 7-9 points out of the next three games could put us in a strong position.
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The bloke who used to run the Norwegians, Trond, had hollow legs.
He's still going strong, though not sure if he's over today. Talking of Trond's legs, surprised you never had his broken when he set up magazine/fanzine Villa Mania back in 93. ;)
Competition was never a problem.
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The Villa Bugle is the only other fanzine I really remember. It must have gone a fair few years and I can recall even being able to find a copy in WH Smith Merry Hill of all places.....
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Witton Wisdom, Never Loved Ellis, The Holy Trinity.
All fine, fine publications.
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I think we're going a little too far now.
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Expecting a reaction to last week, going 2-1 Villa.
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Re the thread title, 'Leeds United'??
DIRTY LEEDS!
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The bloke who used to run the Norwegians, Trond, had hollow legs.
He's still going strong, though not sure if he's over today. Talking of Trond's legs, surprised you never had his broken when he set up magazine/fanzine Villa Mania back in 93. ;)
Competition in Norwegian was never a problem.
FTFY
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Could really do with a win here.
Might be getting massively carried away here seeing as we got turned over by a League Two outfit last weekend, but 7-9 points out of the next three games could put us in a strong position.
Sshhhh! It's Friday the 13th, you know!
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Starting Lineup (from avfc site)
1 Martínez
18 Ashley Young
27 Digne
5 Mings
4 Konsa
44 Kamara
6 Douglas Luiz
41 Ramsey
10 Buendía
11 Watkins
31 Bailey
Substitutes
23 Philippe Coutinho
9 Ings
72 Kadan Young
16 Chambers
15 Álex Moreno
25 Olsen
8 Sanson
20 Bednarek
19 Nakamba
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Fuck me, who are Leedz playing? LEEDZ? Fucking Sky sycophantic fucks.