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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 10, 2022, 07:00:17 PM
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Let's hope Unai's cup luck carries on because 1996 is a long time ago. McGinn back in and as captain worries me. We will need to see where he is playing.
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Fuck sake
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Soooooooooo slooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww
:P
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Bit weak isn't it?
If we win, great. If we lose, wrong decision.
Oh well, come on Villa.
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Ah shit. SHIT
FV WAS RIGHT ABOUT MARTINEZ ON THE BENCH
(He's not right about why though, obviously, please. Please?)
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Thought we'd go stronger. What's theirs like?
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Soooooooooo slooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww
:P
Fuck...C'mon now. I'm 5 hours behind.
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Boooooo!! Emery out!
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Glad I stayed at home now.
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Oh no disappointing line up
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Archer on bench
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Absolute wank
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A little disappointed with the line up, especially with Bailey being out. Their defence were carthorse slow on Sunday.
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First time I recall being disappointed with Bailey not starting.
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Bailey destroyed them, he should be starting. Still I think they have made a handful of changes too. We will see, I suppose.
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Ahh. Interested to see how our tactics stack up this evening.
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What'd I tell ye
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Not quite sure what his thinking is with that selection. Only 1 other game before a huge break and would have thought he’d have gone full strength. Was going to stick a tenner on for us to win but don’t think I’ll bother now.
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I don't think we can judge the line up until we see how they play under this manager. Under Gerrard this would be a disaster. I'm going to play the wait and see game.
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What is the point of playing Olsen in this? He doesn’t exactly need to be match fit
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That midfield is lacking width.
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Ings and Watkins. Sack him.
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It's ok. We have the advantage of playing against Maguire
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That’s a very disappointing team considering we’ve one game left for two months. Ah well always next year.
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Way too weak at the back, leaving out our senior World Cup players and Mings. 7,500 have travelled up, it's Man Ure and it's only one of 2 cups we can win this season. Very disappointing especially as Yanited have gone with a strong team.
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Disappointed with that line up. We’ll be lucky to keep them out but it depends how he’s set them up. Like has been said, can’t see the point of an under strength side with such a lengthy break coming up.
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He will use this to learn who his players are when it matters. If he can make that team compete tonight, then he is very very good
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I guess he wants to see the whole squad in a competitive environment before the break, but it looks very experimental and not that progressive. Why not, for example, play Archer if you want to be experimental?
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Gerrard In.
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FFS. One game left, and he completely changes the team who spanked Man U last week.
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Was going to stick a tenner on for us to win but don’t think I’ll bother now.
Fair comment. Flies in the face of Emery's comment that he wanted to win a trophy. That lineup suggest he actually can't be bothered. Disappointing.
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He will use this to learn who his players are when it matters. If he can make that team compete tonight, then he is very very good
And if he can't, then we've thrown away another cup competition for a year.
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FFS. One game left, and he completely changes the team who spanked Man U last week.
Agree. Most of our squad are not going to the world cup and have plenty of time to rest and have played no European games - no excuses for tiredness.
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Think he may be more bothered about 8 points on Sunday.
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Interesting. McGinn gets another opportunity in his proper position, behind the strikers. Watkins and Ings has never really worked before, but we'll see. With Luiz and Kamara starting together (for I think only the second time), it might work better tonight.
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Disappointing.
Just trying to keep the fringe players happy but at the expense of a serious crack at the cup.
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I think there will be an element of wanting to see some more of the squad in action too. Let's see how it pans out. We might be surprised (we probably won't).
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Let's just see how it pans out. The players aren't being given a game plan from Steven Gerrard. So I get there is concern, but I'm also intrigued how a proper manager and coaches will have prepared us for this game.
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We'll have to see how it goes, but that is a disappointing selection on paper. They have made the same amount of changes, but are arguably stronger in certain areas. We are considerably weaker in almost every position as a a result of our changes.
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Not happy with the line up☹️
Anyway even less happy with two blokes here in the concourse wearing half and half…Villa away fans WTF😡
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Hmmm...
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Ok, agreed! Emery out!
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I think we showed at the weekend our players aren't as shit as the results so far had indicated. It also means other players can step up and improve.
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He will use this to learn who his players are when it matters. If he can make that team compete tonight, then he is very very good
And if he can't, then we've thrown away another cup competition for a year.
Yep, especially as quite a few of the "big" teams are already out so it'd represent a good opportunity in the next round.
Anyway UTV and time for 'El Maestro' to make us all eat humble pie later. We'll probably get Citeh away anyhow.
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I'll be a tad miffed if it doesn't work. A bunch of the favourites are already out, one game until the break with most of the squad staying home. Fingers crossed Unai has played a blinder and we twat them.
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Hmm, that's a poor line up and he's going to get avoidable stick if it doesn't work.
On the bright side, they're starting Van De Beek again, inexplicably.
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I think if Gerrard had won Sunday, he would change the team only so it wouldn't be flagged as a fluke win.
But I hope this isn't as bad as it looks on (Gerrard) paper, and these players can be coached to play well
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I suppose he may want to have a look at other players. He's not going to get much chance for a few weeks.
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If Martinez was in and McGinn not then I could squint and see the point
Bit baffling to my mind
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Somebody on Twitter suggested yesterday that there are only two good ways for PL teams to approach the League Cup. 1. Win it or 2. exit at the earliest opportunity. Sadly we seem to be taking the second option.
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Get real, he is just having a look at all the players and will judge them accordingly.
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Gonna stay off this thread as unpopular opinion would rather focus on the league rather than criticise gaffers choice second game in. See you on the other side
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Gonna stay off this thread as unpopular opinion would rather focus on the league rather than criticise gaffers choice second game in. See you on the other side
Yeah, see you on the 'Deathwatch' thread. :)
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Gonna stay off this thread as unpopular opinion would rather focus on the league rather than criticise gaffers choice second game in. See you on the other side
Indeed.
Stop moaning everybody.
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I’m in a bad mood because of the team selection and now they’re playing fucking freed from desire over the public address system. I want to go home.
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I suppose if we are being charitable, then it's pretty common to change goalie for cup games, Digne has only just come back from injury so three games in a week might be a stretch, and Bailey did go off injured on Sunday so who knows if he's fully fit.
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Gonna stay off this thread as unpopular opinion would rather focus on the league rather than criticise gaffers choice second game in. See you on the other side
Yeah, see you on the 'Deathwatch' thread. :)
Fuck yes mate! Who’s next mother fuckers
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Gonna stay off this thread as unpopular opinion would rather focus on the league rather than criticise gaffers choice second game in. See you on the other side
I can see there is logic in wanting to look at more players before there is an unprecedented break in the league. It will allow him to see where there are potential areas of weakness and start working on it before January. I don't agree with the decision though.
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I’m in a bad mood because of the team selection and now they’re playing fucking freed from desire over the public address system.
"Harry Maguire
Your defending's terrifying"
on internal jukebox to that tune.
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Emery uses rotation- hes about the collective.
He'll have us sorted in a 4-4-2 and will be fine I think.
Can make things go our way with a combating midfield a great selective mix and good opportunity for McGinn to show what he can do under Emery instruction.
Up the Villa!
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Gonna stay off this thread as unpopular opinion would rather focus on the league rather than criticise gaffers choice second game in. See you on the other side
I can see there is logic in wanting to look at more players before there is an unprecedented break in the league. It will allow him to see where there are potential areas of weakness and start working on it before January. I don't agree with the decision though.
Fair enough mate. To me cup run can wait until we can establish league position.
To be clear I hope we batter the Manc twats but let’s not get on emery’s back straight away
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It's a very strong bench.
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It's an extra 5 games to win it after tonight. I don't get why anyone wants to wait on winning a first trophy for 26 years just so as we can maybe finish 9th instead of 10th.
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Weird. And disappointing. But we'll see. I wonder if maybe Mings is not feeling great today, having just heard he's been left out of the world cup squad, albeit that he will surely not have been surprised. And it will be good to see Chambers.
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It's an extra 5 games to win it after tonight. I don't get why anyone wants to wait on winning a first trophy for 26 years just so as we can maybe finish 9th instead of 10th.
Yep. And it will be years before there's a last sixteen of a cup when two thirds of the Sky Six have been knocked out again. This is a great opportunity.
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If level heading into injury time I'd be tempted to bring Martinez on to hopefully wind them up in the penalty shoot-out.
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It's an extra 5 games to win it after tonight. I don't get why anyone wants to wait on winning a first trophy for 26 years just so as we can maybe finish 9th instead of 10th.
I get your point of view and want us to win something but so early into emery’s reign, would rather we established ourselves in top flight as never felt since we went up we wouldn’t slide out of the league at some point. In short I don’t want us to do a blose. But don’t underestimate my desire for us to win tonight. Come on villa! We can do this
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Olsen, oh dear
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Disappointing line up, but good to see Chambers and Kamara starting.
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Feel I’m coming across as a massive helmet tonight so will not post again this evening. Sorry if I’m pissing folk off. Wasn’t my intention
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Changing 3 of the back 4 seems completely unnecessary. Not sure about Olsen, think he will be a disaster.
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Feel I’m coming across as a massive helmet tonight so will not post again this evening. Sorry if I’m pissing folk off. Wasn’t my intention
Be boring if we all had the same opinion on everything. Stay, and be a massive helmet, but you're our massive helmet.
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Feel I’m coming across as a massive helmet tonight so will not post again this evening. Sorry if I’m pissing folk off. Wasn’t my intention
Be boring if we all had the same opinion on everything. Stay, and be a massive helmet, but you're our massive helmet.
Concerned people confirm I’m a helmet but if I’m gonna be a helmet can I be one of them spiky German ones?
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Be one of those definitely historically accurate Viking ones with the two horns.
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I’m the official helmet now!
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I’m the official helmet now!
If I polish your helmet do I get 3 wishes?
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sky talking about some no mark american youtuber who's flown in to watch ronaldo. FFS!!
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Be one of those definitely historically accurate Viking ones with the two horns.
I think those horns aren't historically accurate 😳
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I’m the official helmet now!
If I polish your helmet do I get 3 wishes?
Depends on what you wish for.
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Be one of those definitely historically accurate Viking ones with the two horns.
I think those horns aren't historically accurate 😳
Drat, I feel silly now.
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Be one of those definitely historically accurate Viking ones with the two horns.
I think those horns aren't historically accurate 😳
Fuck off bloke who confused me with name that reminds me of edvard munch. They are my horns! (I jest and love your name)
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Olsen. Oh dear.
Given the option, I would've chosen a win in the league and a loss in the cup.
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Win lose or draw, Ive now been the bloke who was the self declared helmet of H&V.
Will mr Woodhall buy me a pint in the welly you think?
Anyway up the villa!
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I'm a bit surprised by the negative reaction to the team selection. He was always going to make plenty of changes. He is still assessing things. It's only his second game. What will be will be. We are at the beginning of a journey with a top manager. Let's get behind him and the boys. UTV
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Feel I’m coming across as a massive helmet tonight so will not post again this evening. Sorry if I’m pissing folk off. Wasn’t my intention
Be boring if we all had the same opinion on everything. Stay, and be a massive helmet, but you're our massive helmet.
Concerned people confirm I’m a helmet but if I’m gonna be a helmet can I be one of them spiky German ones?
You may be confusing helmet with Helmut.
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The historical documents clearly show those helmets are correct. I believe they are a depiction of the one they called Hägar.
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And we're off
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Blatant handball not given after 5 seconds
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Jammy fuckers already.
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The historical documents clearly show those helmets are correct. I believe they are a depiction of the one they called Hägar.
I think he was my neighbour
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Bit surprised with the comments.
This line up still has over 50m worth of strike talent and Ramsey is starting and they can never handle his forward runs. Nice to see Kamara get a start alongside Luiz,
It's just the backline which is a little below strength.
Think Unai's plan here is to keep it tight for an hour and then put on Bailey + Buendia when a bit more space will open up later on.
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Olsen fucking hell
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Shit selection
BUT COME ON ME BABBIES.
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Got to be coming for that.
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Sky still using our old badge indeed.
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Olsen fucking hell
May as well have kept Lovre. At least he was good for a pun fest.
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Olsen fucking hell
We need an upgrade on him in January. A mannequin will do.
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Olsen fills me with as much confidence as a fart after a curry
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Come on me Villa babbies!
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I'm bored with Alllez ! Allez !
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How many Villa fans are there?
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What's this not scoring in the first 10 minutes bullshit?
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Olsen fills me with as much confidence as a fart after a curry
Or like Nyland
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Our fans in fine voice. Prawn sandwich brigade silent.
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How many Villa fans are there?
At least 28.
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What's this not scoring in the first 10 minutes bullshit?
You are not in 10+ already???
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Well we do look organised
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Olsen terrifies me.
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Usual shit Hollywood pass to the opposition from McGinn.
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Olsen looks like a rabbit caught in headlights.
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Why didn’t Olsen dive on that? He’s a goalkeeper
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OLSEN KICK THE FUCKER AWAY!!!
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Why didn’t Olsen dive on that? He’s a goalkeeper
Are you sure?
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Now you know why he terrifies me!
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This does indeed have the feel of a B-team
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Olsen looks like he's won a competition to have a go in goal.
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Are the Sky commentators from MUTV ?
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Quick clip of Olsen in action tonight
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Why didn’t Olsen dive on that? He’s a goalkeeper
Are you sure?
Ha ha..
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Looks like a straight 4-4-2 at the moment.
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Wonder why the commentators aren't mentioning that Man Utd haven't won in any of our last 3 meetings? *
* don't really wonder!!!
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That's not a booking?
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Wonder why the commentators aren't mentioning that Man Utd haven't won in any of our last 3 meetings? *
* don't really wonder!!!
Probably because they have won in the last 3.
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Fuck me, McGinn stop giving the ball away.
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First Villa challenge like that gets a card, you know it.
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Why did he pick this formation ?
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Gotta be a yellow for van der beek there.
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There are players tonight who won’t be at the club this time next season.
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Shit almighty Olsen off please...
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Oslen is either gonna concede a few in 90 mins, or be the hero in a penalty shootout.
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And another certain booking ignored by the referee.
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We're looking shite as ever so far. Slow, can't keep possession.
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A penny for Emery's thoughts so far.
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That’s a terrible challenge
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Should be ayellow for Ratface launching it into the crowd as well.
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Wonder why the commentators aren't mentioning that Man Utd haven't won in any of our last 3 meetings? *
* don't really wonder!!!
Probably because they have won in the last 3.
We beat them away and drew with them at home last season
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"Watkins overcooked his touch" - really?
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Wonder why the commentators aren't mentioning that Man Utd haven't won in any of our last 3 meetings? *
* don't really wonder!!!
Probably because they have won in the last 3.
We beat them away and drew with them at home last season
And lost in the FA Cup.
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Midfield losing it too often
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Are the Sky commentators from MUTV ?
Have you heard the 5 live commentary?...
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Olsen isn't good enough with his feet to be on the ball as much as he has been. We've been poor so far.
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Wonder why the commentators aren't mentioning that Man Utd haven't won in any of our last 3 meetings? *
* don't really wonder!!!
Probably because they have won in the last 3.
We beat them away and drew with them at home last season
And lost in the FA Cup.
Ah, sorry! Should have specified league games
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Should be a yellow for Ratface launching it into the crowd as well.
The wanker in the black does not wish to find himself reffing Watford, Wolves and Forest all season.
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Was that tannoy announcement asking for Anthony Taylor ?
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Glacial going forwards.
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Most touches so far are from Olsen. Maybe we are playing him warm
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Chambers must think it's a 'put your keeper under pressure' training session.
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Was that tannoy announcement asking for Anthony Taylor ?
Yes!
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Glacial going forwards.
The space and pace has gone.
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Fernandes is starting to look like David Gest.
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First goal attempt of the game. You'll be amazed to learn that it wasn't us.
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They’ve obviously been told to play from the back but it seems the players are not quite good enough to execute it
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First goal attempt of the game. You'll be amazed to learn that it wasn't us.
It was, our player headed the ball
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seems like we are playing for pens. most of our possession is across our 18 yard line the only forward passing is from a defender to a midfielder who has a red shirt right up his chuff, consequently we surrender possession.
I'd love to see one of our strikers really hassle McGuire.
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Sitting back to hit them on the break…..with virtually no pace in midfield or up front ::)
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Need to make 3 subs now before they score
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It's all a bit reminiscent of Gerrardball so far.
At least it will give Emery an idea of what he's got to work with.
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It's interesting, all those games where we played like we had no midfield. All those times with McGinn in it, contributing nothing at all. Bring him back, and we look like we've got no midfield.
He's absolutely pants, a poor footballer at this level.
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I kept an open mind, but it's shite. Really shite.
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They’ve obviously been told to play from the back but it seems the players are not quite good enough to execute it
We have quite a few players in who are either coming back from injury or haven't played much and I think it's showing. That said I think we're trying to draw them on to us so we can play into the space they leave but we've just not quite go the break right yet. It looks poor but I can see what we're trying to do unlike a lot of games earlier in the season.
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This is terrible. 27 minutes in, and we have yet to produce so much as a single meaningful pass in the opposition half.
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Instead of lulling them into a false sense of security, maybe we're just trying to lull them to sleep.
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I'm all for playing it out from the back, but only if you actually play it out!
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They’ve obviously been told to play from the back but it seems the players are not quite good enough to execute it
We have quite a few players in who are either coming back from injury or haven't played much and I think it's showing. That said I think we're trying to draw them on to us so we can play into the space they leave but we've just not quite go the break right yet. It looks poor but I can see what we're trying to do unlike a lot of games earlier in the season.
Agree.
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Personally I think we are doing ok. They have plenty of possession but they haven’t really troubled us and it’s keeping the crowd quiet
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"Fair play, Villa fans making a right racket" is the verdict of the Yanited forum. They're also impressed by Ramsey and Kamara.
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This is shit. No forward penetration whatsoever. Ings has touched the ball 4 times.
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Why won't we cross the ball into their box...always going backwards.
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HAVE A SHOT DOUGIE, HAVE A SHOT!
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This is shit. No forward penetration whatsoever. Ings has touched the ball 4 times.
That’s progress isn’t it?
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This is shit. No forward penetration whatsoever. Ings has touched the ball 4 times.
At least they weren't all kick offs.
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Luiz corner goal incoming.
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A corner!
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This is shit. No forward penetration whatsoever. Ings has touched the ball 4 times.
At least they weren't all kick offs.
Fair point.
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Listening on the radio: glad I can't actually watch this
yet another crap away performance.
Ooo we've got a corner!
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Wasn't far away again.
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I have faith that the manager and staff won’t look at this at HT and tell the lads to roll up their sleeves
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Bit better now
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Luiz corner goal incoming.
It was close
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Oooooh
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Oooooh
This scares me what will happen within next few minutes🤣
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Last five minutes much better.
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I hope they're counting those corners as attempts on target! :)
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This is shit. No forward penetration whatsoever. Ings has touched the ball 4 times.
Not really sure what we are trying to do here. With McGinn and Ramsey out wide, we haven't got many options when we have got the ball.
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Leon Osman
Aston Villa are playing an aggressive line and are playing better without the ball. They're working hard, working as a team, a structure, a unit. They're trying to condense the pitch, pressing up high and working ever so hard in midfield.
They just need to be a bit better in possession.
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Leon Osman
Aston Villa are playing an aggressive line and are playing better without the ball. They're working hard, working as a team, a structure, a unit. They're trying to condense the pitch, pressing up high and working ever so hard in midfield.
They just need to be a bit better in possession.
That’s exactly how I see it so far
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I like our options off the bench to completely change this game in our favour. Lots of exciting options. We just can’t make any stupid errors and give ourselves a strong platform to go an win the game.
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Leon Osman
Aston Villa are playing an aggressive line and are playing better without the ball. They're working hard, working as a team, a structure, a unit. They're trying to condense the pitch, pressing up high and working ever so hard in midfield.
They just need to be a bit better in possession.
There might be a purpose here, and we actually have a game plan
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Fucking hell Chambers
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Chambers trying to liven things up, fair play.
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The fuck is Chambers doing?
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Two poor sides so far
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This is why Calum Chambers doesn’t start
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lol, Fred.
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Think Umai is learning a lot
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The fuck is Chambers doing?
I don't think he trusts Olsen under pressure.
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We are giving it away stupidly here
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Gone sloppy again 😖
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Fuck's sake ref. Fernandes doing his usual rolling around trick and you've fallen for it.
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Stop giving the ball away from well inside our half!!
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The fuck is Chambers doing?
I don't think he trusts Olsen under pressure.
He should probably stop putting him, and us, under it then.
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What a terrible game of football this is!
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Chambers looks like he's playing on the wrong side, all looks a bit uncomfortable and he's normally pretty composed.
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The fuck is Chambers doing?
I don't think he trusts Olsen under pressure.
Fair play, Olsen worries me greatly.
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McTominay booked.
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Finally one of theirs booked.
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Chambers, Konsa and Luiz with three howlers there in the space of a minute.
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Chambers looks like he's playing on the wrong side, all looks a bit uncomfortable and he's normally pretty composed.
Was just thinking that. He looks iffy in possession because he's having to turn inside on his right foot, too.
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McGinn and Ings are wastes of shirts thus far.
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McTominay booked.
He's beginning to come undone, need to target him now. 2 elbows and a ridiculous challenge in the span of 5 minutes.
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Wtf! Fernández is a cheating piece of shit, and commentators didn't comment it at all
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Only positive is that they're every bit as bad as we are.
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Olsen is truly having a mare
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Wtf! Fernández is a cheating piece of shit
How the fuck did the decide it was a free kick to them when they just ran into our players at our free kick.
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They are shit, we are playing shit.
McGinn has touched the ball maybe twice.
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Slabhead booked
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Arlene Foster booked.
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Yellow no 2
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Wtf! Fernández is a cheating piece of shit, and commentators didn't comment it at all
For some reason these people love him 🤷♂️
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Olsen is truly having a mare
He obviously can’t do what Unai wants him to do, so he’s going to have to practice and learn or he will be out
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5 moaning about Harry's yellow...
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Crowd ask for a foul so of course the referee obliges.
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Ref is Homer Simpson
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1 min added time. Thank fuck for that.
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How the fuck was that a free kick, he fell over the ball!
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How the feck did JJ get called for a foul on Malacia..
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5 moaning about Harry's yellow...
Clear yellow card, Watkins was away from him and he knew it.
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Praise where it's due for Olsen there
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Not a starting X1 any supporter with any nous would have picked. So hardly surprising we’ve been so dull. Sort it out at half time please Mr Emery.
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Half time.
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What the actual fcuk.
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Well that was fucking dreadful.
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How the fuck was that a free kick, he fell over the ball!
I fanything he fouled Ramsey first, awful decision.
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How the fuck was that a free kick, he fell over the ball!
I fanything he fouled Ramsey first, awful decision.
Twice!
How does Rashford have a plane ticket to Qatar?!
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Not sure why Sky are showing this League Two match rather than a clash between two five-times former winners.
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A truly awful watch so far.
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How the fuck was that a free kick, he fell over the ball!
I fanything he fouled Ramsey first, awful decision.
Are you calling Malacio a fanything?
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This commentary is as bad as some of these ref's decisions.
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5 moaning about Harry's yellow...
Clear yellow card, Watkins was away from him and he knew it.
Oh absolutely
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Well done to the fans there for keeping singing, there was very little to get excited about
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Yawn !
Bailey or Buendia for Ings please.
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Wtf! Fernández is a cheating piece of shit, and commentators didn't comment it at all
done that trick of running into the player again
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How the fuck was that a free kick, he fell over the ball!
I fanything he fouled Ramsey first, awful decision.
Are you calling Malacio a fanything?
In so much that anyone who plays for these cu*ts is, yes.
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Both teams poor. Need to step it up 2nd half, their defence is shit.
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Blimey, that was a hard watch. I'm thinking I want to order in a takeaway, though I've already had my dinner.
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Disjointed mess.
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Imagine UE will be telling them to put Maguire and McT under pressure with those yellows in the 2nd half
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Fuck me, Don Goodman :another bitter,anti-Villa shit pundit.
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That's a very sloppy game of football from both teams. At least we seem to have a shape though.
Young and Ramsey look like the only decent footballer players on the pitch today for us so far.
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Well that was a bizarre half of football. We have been genuinely awful and it's hard to see what we are trying to do. Luckily they have been just as bad so we've got away with it.
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Olsen is giving me the shits.
Midfield has lost its balance with McGinn in there.
Ings offering nothing if we’re not creating chances.
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Well, some of the players have certainly staked their place to be cleared out in Jan. Thankfully, the Mancs are also shite.
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That's a very sloppy game of football from both teams. At least we seem to have a shape though.
Young and Ramsey look like the only decent footballer players on the pitch today for us so far.
Augustinsson has been decent.
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Well done to the fans there for keeping singing, there was very little to get excited about
Foo-ootball in the libree...
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We’d be improved massively by replacing McGinn, Chambers and Ings with Buendia, Mings and Bailey.
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Get some flair on for God’s sake.
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I'd give Archer a go.
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It's Unai's second game in charge. It's Yanited away. He was always going to make changes to have a look at what he's got at his disposal. This is just the beginning. It's a poor game to watch but we are making it a scrappy game by design.
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Schmeichel looks like Jeff Lebowski these days
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I honestly thought mcginn would be dynamite tonight , he is poor , get him off and get bailey on and ings for archer .
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I reckon the first half was used to test and frustrate them without conceding.
I think we’ll step it up in the second half
We’ll, I hope that was the case!
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Schmeichel looks like Jeff Lebowski these days
Ha! Ha!
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I would go Sanson for McGinn.
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Gerrard had us playing much better up here in the Cup in January. But it was a worse Yanited side. And we still lost. Unai is a strategist, he'll see us through.
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That's a very sloppy game of football from both teams. At least we seem to have a shape though.
Young and Ramsey look like the only decent footballer players on the pitch today for us so far.
Augustinsson has been decent.
Actually yes, he's been alright too.
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What a bore fest!!
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Olsen is a worry, think the defence and midfield doing reasonably well, but the forward structure yet again with Ings is not working. Hope to see changes second half.
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I've dispensed with the commentary, it was making it worse listening to Goodman.
Big Cutts is in the away end.
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It's Unai's second game in charge. It's Yanited away. He was always going to make changes to have a look at what he's got at his disposal. This is just the beginning. It's a poor game to watch but we are making it a scrappy game by design.
Playing shit on purpose seems like an odd strategy.
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Being kind - defensively competent although Olsen worries me. Need to be more effective on the forward moves.
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The American co-commentator I'm listening to is both fair and insightful.
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There you go Unai, Ings and Watkins doesn't work. Hopefully he only needs a half to realise that, and not 20 games.
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Schmeichel looks like Jeff Lebowski these days
Talking out of his arse there though, suggesting it's easy to just defend, as if we haven't come closest to scoring.
Either way I think what we've been doing makes sense but we need to be a bit more willing to run in behind and get Slabhead facing the wrong way, especially now he's on a booking.
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It's Unai's second game in charge. It's Yanited away. He was always going to make changes to have a look at what he's got at his disposal. This is just the beginning. It's a poor game to watch but we are making it a scrappy game by design.
Playing shit on purpose seems like an odd strategy.
That's not what I said. We are making it a frustrating game for them. Mourinho made a career out of it and has got a lot of trophies to show for it. Emery is just getting to know the players. I can't believe people on here are on his case already.
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Some of our fringe players last chance to impress the new boss before the next transfer window. Hopefully Unai learnt in that 45 minutes what we already know and changes things for the second half.
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Looks like he could be making some changes at HT
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Get Bailey on (*things I wouldn't have said 3 weeks ago)
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Is Martinez on bench
Get him on for pens
Ings been poor again
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We've played as I thought we would. Bit worried we'll just gift them a goal with a stupid pass though.
What on earth was Chambers doing it smashing it across our backline, were lucky to get away with that one. Luiz and Konsa were also giving it away at times holding on too long.
They really haven't offered much and we arguably have more options on the bench to change it so expecting Bailey and Buendia on at hour mark.
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Perfect game plan by Emery so far.
Set up for a one off cup tieb away from home.
Very organised.
Don't think McGinn is up ti much apart from an awfuk foul condceding a free kick which could have been costly .
An anonymous liability who looks clueless!
Think majority of team look assured if a little pondering.
Young the pick of the players first half. Wonderful.
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I'm no connoisseur of European football, but this is what Emery does away against better teams, isn't it?
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It's Unai's second game in charge. It's Yanited away. He was always going to make changes to have a look at what he's got at his disposal. This is just the beginning. It's a poor game to watch but we are making it a scrappy game by design.
Playing shit on purpose seems like an odd strategy.
That's not what I said. We are making it a frustrating game for them. Mourinho made a career out of it and has got a lot of trophies to show for it. Emery is just getting to know the players. I can't believe people on here are on his case already.
Nobody's on his case, but it was a shit team selection, and we've played really badly.
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Is Martinez on bench
Get him on for pens
Ings been poor again
Yes he’s on the bench
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I'm no connoisseur of European football, but this is what Emery does away against better teams, isn't it?
If we want to be competitive in European competition again in hopefully the near future we'll have to play this style over two legs so don't see the harm in giving it a test drive tonight.
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I'm no connoisseur of European football, but this is what Emery does away against better teams, isn't it?
If we want to be competitive in European competition again in hopefully the near future we'll have to play this style over two legs so don't see the harm in giving it a test drive tonight.
I wasn't complaining, just looking for confirmation!
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Bailey needs to come off the bench soon.
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SCOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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This commentator and don Goodman are terrible ...
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Ollie!!!
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Gooaaaalll
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OLLLIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Watkins 1 on 1 ...
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Yesssssd ollie
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Yessss
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Lulled them in, nice finish.
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Boner.
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Yessssss!!!!
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SCOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
oh yes, PWS!!
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Ollie is back. Cool, calm finish. 8)
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1-1 Man Utd score
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1-1 Man Utd score
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Oh
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Missed the goal, commenting on quinces on the gardening thread. Fuck.
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Shit. At least this half is more interesting though.
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Fucking shit to concede straight away
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Oh well
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And went to sleep.
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That didn’t last long
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OLLLLIEEEEEE!!!!!!
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Missed the equaliser, commenting on our goal. Fuck.
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Lovely goal Ollie
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Calum Chambers what on earth are you doing.
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Fucking shit to concede straight away
We do it all the fucking time.
Good goal by Ollie though, great first touch from him, and you don't get to say that too often.
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OLLLLIEEEEEE!!!!!!
Your feed is behind innit?
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Fucking hell! Typical.
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Augustinsson, useless.
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Oh yes! Ollie!!! 1-0
Oh bollocks. 1-1
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19 seconds from restart
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Get Ings off, he's contributed knack all. Get Bailey on to stretch them.
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Shocking defending that
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Absolutely fucking typical.
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Back to the wine I go.
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Actually it was as much Luiz as it was Ratface.
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How stupid is Luiz, putting his head in again?
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Oh Konsa
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Fernandes went in with the head there first. Shitbag
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Young booked
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Fernandes is a shithouse.
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Tell you what, Augustinsson should be top of the 'not up to it' table.
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Someone please put Fernandes out of the World Cup.
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can't get sucked into a basket ball match now just to make sky happy. We need to make it a snooze fest again. They've got a few on yellows lets play nasty.
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Olsen. Have you ever played in goal before?
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Chaotic atm
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After twatting them Sunday, 5 mins of being ahead of a side containing Slabhead, Fred and McTominay would have had the fans and team getting rattled.
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Awful goal to concede so quickly after scoring. Great finish from Ollie, but would have inevitably been chalked off if VAR was being used.
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McGinn you are shite.
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Guess we changed approach 2nd half 😳
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After twatting them Sunday, 5 mins of being ahead of a side containing Slabhead, Fred and McTominay would have had the fans and team getting rattled.
Indeed, I bet Unai is fuming
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McGinn you are shite.
He really is.
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Bailey and Buendia getting ready to tear these tramps apart.
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Looks like we are trying to wind Fernandes up
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Shite refereeing again.
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Hopefully we can sell Ings and McGinn and get decent money. Just not good enough.
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Mings getting ready as well
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Good subs
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Looks like we are trying to wind Fernandes up
Good.
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Ref = bad
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Ings, Konsa and JJ off.
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Mcginn has been crap thou
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Buendia, Bailey and Mings on for Konsa, Ramsey and Ings.
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Fred isshit. We need to put him under a bit
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Frank Skinner is running the line
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Hmm, I'd have took McGinn off rather than Ramsey.
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Why would you leave McGinn on?
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3 good positive subs there
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Come on Leon
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I wouldn't just be taking McGinn off. I'd be sticking him on eBay.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Goooaaaaaallll
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Bailey!!!!
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!
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First thing Tyrone does is good it up the pitch!
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Wahey!!
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Get in
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Excellent work by McGinn in the build up.
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Why would you leave McGinn on?
To help us keep the 2-1 lead innit.
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Yessss
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Yesssss
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Get the fuck in
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Let’s not concede again inside 30 seconds
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Now STAY FUCKING ALERT and don't immediately concede now.
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Great assist there from Bailey.
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Get in!
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Please hold on a bit longer this time.
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Fuck it, go straight at them and get a 3rd!!!
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We totally changed setup
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My stream is a long way behind.
Goal!
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Fuck yeah! Get in!
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That's a superb cross, took the keeper completely out of the game.
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Oooooooooooooooooooooh
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YESSSS!!!!
LEON!!!
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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I love you Leon
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That's a superb cross, took the keeper completely out of the game.
Great finish, too.
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It’s an Oggie too!
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Just a little bit
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That's a superb cross, took the keeper completely out of the game.
Brilliant from Bailey to make the space and a great ball from Ash
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Rashford misses
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Defence had a kip again, thought Rashford had scored.
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Chambers having a marw
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Sharted.
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Gotta love being 2-1 up in a game where you officially only have 1 shot on target.
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McGinn cunningly avoiding a booking by completely missing the ball and player.
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Calum, could you just look over your shoulder? It only takes a second, thanks.
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Did Emery flog Chambers while he was at Arsenal?
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2-2 Man Utd score
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FFS
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Defense shite
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Bollocks. Mings falling over at the crucial stage.
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Did Emery flog Chambers while he was at Arsenal?
Nope, loaned to Fulham first season and then was playing fairly regularly at right back in his second year.
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The lead lasted slightly longer this time. Bollocks.
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FML
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Mings slips ffs
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This is going to go to penalties isn’t it?
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Did Emery flog Chambers while he was at Arsenal?
Kinky bitch
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Slippy T
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Unlucky Mings slipped.
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This is going to go to penalties isn’t it?
We probably need to score 3 more to get to penalties the way we're defending
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Desperate United, resorting to longballs. Unlucky really.. great tackle from Young.
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We need to drop a little deeper.
Rashford won’t be this lethal at the WC
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Buendia touched the ball yet?
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Luckily Ratface is a greedy little shit or we would be losing.
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Great tackle by Young. Unlucky slip for Mings.
Chambers is poor
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How shit was our defence there??
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Mcginn ffs
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This is going to go to penalties isn’t it?
And if it does I hope we bring on Emi a minute or two before the end.
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Bollocks. Mings falling over at the crucial stage.
Think Chambers being outpaced was the main issue
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Unlucky Mings slipped.
Very unlucky but chambers jogging back in penalty area was bad
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This is going to go to penalties isn’t it?
And if it does I hope we bring on Emi a minute or two before the end.
Won't have subs by then
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Digne and Cash coming on. We're going all out for the win then
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Ollie killing time. Smart
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Jesus, any kind of high press and we look a rabble at the back.
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Nice to see some imaginative use of subs here.
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Mcginn ain't no dendonker
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We've been all over the place at the back at times tonight.
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Mcginn ffs
You can say that again.
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That pass to Olsen from Chambers. Scary and poor
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McGinn proving he's just not quick enough both in body and mind to play at the top level.
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McGinn is having a shocker.
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Mcginn ffs
You can say that again.
mcginn ffs
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Mcginn ain't no dendonker
McGinn - 20 touches, 69% pass completion.
Kamara - 33 touches, 92% completion
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Mcginn ain't no dendonker
Leaving him on suggests he won’t be starting Sunday just like Kamara giving him minutes
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Mcginn ffs
You can say that again.
mcginn ffs
Sorry please say again?
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Get McGinn off FFS, he's done as a top level player.
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Ollie killing time. Smart
Well we haven’t got Martinez to do that tonight
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Great save Olsen.
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Good save Olsen
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Great save Olsen.
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Is it 3 or 5 subs?
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Getting battered by a shit side. We look all over the place at times.
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Olsen made a good couple of stops and pretty good distribution but…… is he any good at stopping pens !?
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Doesn't bode well
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Chambers playing statues again. He’s either unfit or just not good enough
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Fuck me
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Well done Bailey.
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Watkins
Sums him up
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Brilliant from Bailey, less so from Watkins.
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Fuck me
You'll have to buy us all dinner first.
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3-2 Man Utd score
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Ollie. FFS
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Bailey world class
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Olsen you twat
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Bollocks.
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Fuck Olsen off
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Olsen. Fuck me.
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Criminal! Fucking Criminal from Ollie after that world class play from Bsikey
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Ratface scores. We have absolutely gifted them that.
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Had to be the rat
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Disaster
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Olsen! You’re a bloody liability!
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You useless c*** Olsen.
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I'm convinced a stronger starting 11 beats this lot.
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Archer to come on and save the day or is it 3 subs max?
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Archer to come on and save the day or is it 3 subs max?
It's 5, we've made 4 already.
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At least this should stop Footy going on about how we should pick Olsen ahead of Martinez.
It won't.
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Olsen needs sacking. Rip up his contract.
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
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Olsen looked capable of doing that all night
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Last ever game from Olsen
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Archer to come on and save the day or is it 3 subs max?
Stick him in goal if can make a save.
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Don't forget, as Footy said, Olsen just waiting to inevitably replace Martinez
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Oh well. At least we know Olsen will never play again!
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Enckleman’s less capable brother
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Archer to come on and save the day or is it 3 subs max?
We are making our fifth and final sub now, Digne for Augustinsson.
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Olson ! bloody hell!
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Brilliant from Leon there
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This keeper isn’t very good is he ?
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Opponents know all they have to do is press our back line. They didn't on Sunday, they have tonight and we look shambolic.
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Why would you start with Robin Fucking Olsen? Mental. Digne coming on isn't what we need at 3-2 down either, Emery, fucking hell.
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Fuck me. Shite.
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Well I suspect Mr Emery will be putting in a request for some new defenders in January
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Olsen. His terrible pass shouldn't take the attention away from his terrible fumble a minute earlier. Total joke of a goalkeeper.
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Olsen has conceded 10 in the last 170 odd mins he's been on the pitch
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Archer to come on and save the day or is it 3 subs max?
It's 5, we've made 4 already.
Cheers.
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
What is it with us and keepers???
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Fuck off Olsn. Hopeless, clueless.
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Mings contribution so far since coming on, one slip leading to a goal, one deflection leading to a goal.
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We do ineptitude like nobody else. Fuck me
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We've had a bad doing with Scandi keepers recently.
Yanited have missed a trick by not putting him under more pressure. He's looked ropey from the first minute.
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Olsen , I bloody knew it FFS
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Casemiro looks like one of the Salamanca henchmen.
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Archer to come on and save the day or is it 3 subs max?
We are making our fifth and final sub now, Digne for Augustinsson.
FFS.
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It was only a matter of time before hecwas going to fuck up.
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Luiz looks like he pulled up a little there.
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Luiz looks like he pulled up a little there.
He's on a yellow..
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Idiotic stuff at the back again. Olsen has looked a disaster waiting to happen all night and has duly delivered.
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
What is it with us and keepers???
We've got an excellent one. Emery decided to pick Olsen instead.
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Luiz looks like he pulled up a little there.
He's on a yellow..
I think he was expecting Chambers to be there to help him but he backed off so he got frustrated
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
What is it with us and keepers???
We've got an excellent one. Emery decided to pick Olsen instead.
Almost every team does this, ours is just extremely shite
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I hope I never have to see Olsen play in a Villa shirt again.
Surely a new better keeper must be on a shopping list somewhere??
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Oh well.
"We go again" against Brighton on Sunday...
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McGinn loses the ball for the umpteenth time tonight.
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McGinn, Olsen and Chambers won’t be getting a game any time soon after this.
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Shot ourselves in the foot massively tonight
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Game plan was decent, keeper fucked it up
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Its shocking that the best we could do for a backup left back and goalkeeper arent even championship standard.
Martinez in goal think we would have won this.
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
What is it with us and keepers???
We've got an excellent one. Emery decided to pick Olsen instead.
Almost every team does this, ours is just extremely shite
You can get away with it if you're a team like Man City, we can't. Olsen isn't even 10% as good as Martinez. the decision to play him is moronic.
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McGinn, Olsen and Chambers won’t be getting a game any time soon after this.
At least he has seen it first hand
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McGinn, Olsen and Chambers won’t be getting a game any time soon after this.
Watkins scored a good goal, but his touch tonight has been shocking. Given how Emery tends to like technical players, I suspect Ollie hasn't done himself any favours tonight.
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
What is it with us and keepers???
We've got an excellent one. Emery decided to pick Olsen instead.
Almost every team does this, ours is just extremely shite
Exactly. Emery has just walked in and has used this game to have a look at his back up keeper. I would think he's seen enough to know Olsen isn't good enough. We need a solid reserve keeper.
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If that had been a Villa player...😡
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Fuck off McGinn you useless fat chump.
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Its shocking that the best we could do for a backup left back and goalkeeper arent even championship standard.
Martinez in goal think we would have won this.
I take it Sweden are not in the World cup
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Atrocious defending all half. And that 'touch' from Watkins before their 3rd, Christ alive. Bailey must be fuming.
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Lucky it's only 3
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He said he will win a cup, i prefer FA cup
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Game over
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Bjorn Engels is back
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We're out.
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Don’t think Olsen would have played had Neil Cutler been around to have a word in Emery’s ear.
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Olsen rooted to his line.
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Lucky it's only 3
4
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
What is it with us and keepers???
We've got an excellent one. Emery decided to pick Olsen instead.
Almost every team does this, ours is just extremely shite
Exactly. Emery has just walked in and has used this game to have a look at his back up keeper. I would think he's seen enough to know Olsen isn't good enough. We need a solid reserve keeper.
He's a third division keeper. Decent shot stopper but doesn't command his area nearly enough
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That'll be that
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Lucky it's only 3
Lucky it's only 4
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******
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This keeper. FML
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Lucky it's only 3
Lucky it's only 3
Sorry?
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Cash had the ball then and needed an option, McGinn just stood and looked at him gormlessly. Fucking move!
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Emery wouldn't have known what Oslen was like, against Newcastle he wasn't much better
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Never want to see Olsen in a Villa shirt again. Woeful.
What is it with us and keepers???
We've got an excellent one. Emery decided to pick Olsen instead.
Almost every team does this, ours is just extremely shite
Exactly. Emery has just walked in and has used this game to have a look at his back up keeper. I would think he's seen enough to know Olsen isn't good enough. We need a solid reserve keeper.
Olsen has been poor but McGinn has been the biggest problem for me, as has happened all season he's just given up possession far too easily time and time again, dreadful performance from him.
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Mickey Mouse cup anyway. Night...
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Why the f**k did we not play our strongest 11?
Manager says he wants to win a cup then plays that idiot in goal?
Same old villa
Crap
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Slow ball and he backed - jeesus he is shit
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We can’t get the ball out of defence and thats what happens.
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And people wonder why Mings isn't going to the World Cup.
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Olsen makes Kiraly and Nyland look world class.
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Been well beaten here.
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Never mind..
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Unforgivable defending in the second half. Fuck knows what they've been playing at.
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Olsen again. Why didn't he come out for that?
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Fucking pathetic last 25 minutes.
Losing possession all the time.
Olsen is SHIT!
Well that's it for another year.
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No more Olsen
No more mcginn
No more augustinno
Watkins did what he always does and manure score seconds later
Think mings will be replaced soon too
Fuck off Goodman
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another 4 away from home
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Why the f**k did we not play our strongest 11?
Manager says he wants to win a cup then plays that idiot in goal?
Same old villa
Crap
I preferred it when you had fucked off when we won
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I think the keeper isn't a keeper.
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Fucking shite. Self-inflicted for the most part. Cheers Unai.
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Fucking shite. Self-inflicted for the most part. Cheers Unai.
It wasn't shite.
There were positives and negatives. The negatives were Olsen, Augustinsson and McGinn showing themselves to be nowhere near good enough.
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Way we constantly fold in away games this season is very alarming.
2-1 up with half an hour left and we throw in that.
Wouldn't have taken Ramsey off and think Kamara ran out of gas so he really should've gone off instead.
Very disappointing way to exit the cup having got ourselves in a nice position to see the game out.
High lines and constantly playing from the back, not good enough defensively to do that every single move just yet as tonight showed.
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We are weak mentally away from home. Another 4 conceded but at least Emery has seen it for himself. We lack leaders and still shrink when under the pump. Some serious work to be done in January and in the summer. 3 different coaches have seen 3 capitulations away from home.
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Why the f**k did we not play our strongest 11?
Manager says he wants to win a cup then plays that idiot in goal?
Same old villa
Crap
First post since Bonfire Night. Clearly abducted by aliens for our first win over Newton Heath in 27 years with a new manager to watch to boot.
Sussed.
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Fucking shite. Self-inflicted for the most part. Cheers Unai.
Dude! Come on now.
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Fucking shite. Self-inflicted for the most part. Cheers Unai.
Have some of this to cheer up: