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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on May 16, 2022, 07:58:43 PM
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A bit of nothing game for us. We're safe. Last really great chance of a win as the game vs Man City could be a little ugly. But a little torn. Ok, I'm not as I want Villa to win always. But, hypothetically speaking...a loss gives Burnley hope of staying up and Everton or Leeds going down. And that would be funny. A win, most desirable, and unfavourable results for Everton and Leeds keeps everything very tasty for the last day.
We battered them a week or so back. I expect them to be better because they need to be. But still think we will find a way to end our home campaign with a win.
I'll go 2-1 - Buendia and Ings
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Anothing spanking for Burnley. 3-0 this time.
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It would be nice to finish on a high. It's a shame it's a night match because the last home game was traditionally a bit of a day out but never mind.
They'll battle, we'll struggle here and there and then suddenly look good for odd spells.
1-1.
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They are that poor - surely they can't manage a shot on goal. 7-0 Villa.
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2-0 Ings x2
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Just heard the match is on Sky, which is good news.
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They are that poor - surely they can't manage a shot on goal. 7-0 Villa.
By law you have to say it as 7(Seven)-0 Villa
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0-2.
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They'll view this as their big chance to stay up, as a win would probably suffice, and they'll be suitably up for the challenge. That said, I also think that if we can take an early lead, put away our first chance of the game, they might collapse.
No mercy, I think we'll be professional about it and send them away with their tail between their legs again. 3-0, Coutinho, Watkins, then Buendia once he's replaced Ings.
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3-0 to us. Don’t care who scores. I know they’re fighting for their lives but basically they’re rubbish so a convincing win to send us home happy
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They will sit in and frustrate us like they did against Spurs. I can see it being 0-0 or 1-0 either way.
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Take the damn flip flops off and win this game. 14th is no longer good enough. Sod Burnley, they can doom Leeds by decking the barcodes on the last day!
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2-1 to Burnley
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1-1 for me as well.
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SG needs to win this otherwise finishing 14th would not be acceptable.
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Doesn't matter.
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A draw for me. Our home form is unconvincing.
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SG needs to win this otherwise finishing 14th would not be acceptable.
Or what really? Its not going to change any pre season plans or next season.
Want us to finish the season well, its almost last chance saloon for them so they will go for it. An early couple of goals for us.
2-0 (Watkins, McGinn).
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Win would be nice to push us up the table a bit
Think signing PC will do more for the summer momentum then our finishing place - but would be good to finish as high as possible. As I guess a low finish would put a little bit more pressure on the management team if we make a poor start
All that said, I have been reasonably impressed with the last 5 games - think we look tougher to beat, even when havent played well so I thin the progress is there
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Win, but don't overdo it... We need to keep enough in the tank for that injury time equaliser on Sunday! 😉
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I can see us winning 2-0.
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I just have a feeling that we might tonk them in this one.
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SG needs to win this otherwise finishing 14th would not be acceptable.
Or what really?
No what really. It's about this season and after all the investment we made 14th would be a very disappointing end.
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Hammer them and dedicate the win to Wesley in the post match comments.
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It's been a while since we beat these so not optimistic. 1-1
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It's been a while since we beat these so not optimistic. 1-1
10 days in fact, it's a disgrace.
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An absolute disgrace in fact !
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Last season should of been 5-0 instead ElGhazi (remember him) decided to wear the box his boots came in rather than the boots and we missed around 15 chances.
Punish them for stealing our colours, being shit, crippling Wesley but most of all because that odious knob Alistair Campbell supports them.
Ings to actually find his boots and score again - if not then i fear it could be his final game
3-0
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Dave W - be nothing but gracious please in your build up piece (fingers crossed thingy)
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SG needs to win this otherwise finishing 14th would not be acceptable.
Or what really? Its not going to change any pre season plans or next season.
Want us to finish the season well, its almost last chance saloon for them so they will go for it. An early couple of goals for us.
2-0 (Watkins, McGinn).
The difference between 14th and 11th is about £6.5m in premier league prize money. That might not sound like much, but for context, Cazoo give us about £10m a year to be our main shirt sponsor. That's £6.5m that can go straight into our transfer fund, or it could be an extra £30k a week in wages towards someone signed on a 4-year deal - just by finishing 3 places higher over the next week.
I'll be massively pissed off if we take our foot off the gas and show signs of being on the beach. These results matter.
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They do matter to be fair but Sawaris is so rich he could probably use a £6.5m note to wipe his arse with. Wouldn’t worry too much about that side of things.
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0-0 bore draw.
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They do matter to be fair but Sawaris is so rich he could probably use a £6.5m note to wipe his arse with. Wouldn’t worry too much about that side of things.
That doesn't matter, it's about the revenue. I thought people had got this by now?
Either way, I'll be pissed off if we don't win. It's already been a dissapointing season, lets finish it with some respectability.
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And it's LIIIIVE! On Sky Sports for those who can't make it.
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There's also the psychological effect. Eleventh again can be explained away better than dropping to fourteenth.
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SG needs to win this otherwise finishing 14th would not be acceptable.
Or what really? Its not going to change any pre season plans or next season.
Want us to finish the season well, its almost last chance saloon for them so they will go for it. An early couple of goals for us.
2-0 (Watkins, McGinn).
The difference between 14th and 11th is about £6.5m in premier league prize money. That might not sound like much, but for context, Cazoo give us about £10m a year to be our main shirt sponsor. That's £6.5m that can go straight into our transfer fund, or it could be an extra £30k a week in wages towards someone signed on a 4-year deal - just by finishing 3 places higher over the next week.
I'll be massively pissed off if we take our foot off the gas and show signs of being on the beach. These results matter.
I was massively pissed off on the opening day of the season that we seemed to be on the beach! And again after Christmas. If our attitude and application was right every week we would have 9 more points than we currently have (two losses to Watford and the capitulation at home to Wolves for a start).
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I've voted for a Villa win, but it won't be elegant or convincing.
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Stevie G visits Specsavers, picks Buendia and we win 3-0. Sawaris wipes his arse on a 6.5m note.
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They do matter to be fair but Sawaris is so rich he could probably use a £6.5m note to wipe his arse with. Wouldn’t worry too much about that side of things.
That doesn't matter, it's about the revenue. I thought people had got this by now?
Either way, I'll be pissed off if we don't win. It's already been a dissapointing season, lets finish it with some respectability.
Yes, true.
As i say i do think it matters from the point of view of morale and respectability anyway, i always want to see as many points on the board and as far up the table as we can. And club revenue needs to be considered as well.
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4-0 to the Villa
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Be nice to move up a place or two so hoping for a convincing win but at least if we lose it will be another nail in Leeds' or Everton's coffin. A draw would be the worst result.
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Dress rehearsal for the big one on Sunday, when Liverpool’s Steve Gerrard attempts to rescue the title away from the plastic mancs.
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SG needs to win this otherwise finishing 14th would not be acceptable.
Or what really? Its not going to change any pre season plans or next season.
Want us to finish the season well, its almost last chance saloon for them so they will go for it. An early couple of goals for us.
2-0 (Watkins, McGinn).
The difference between 14th and 11th is about £6.5m in premier league prize money. That might not sound like much, but for context, Cazoo give us about £10m a year to be our main shirt sponsor. That's £6.5m that can go straight into our transfer fund, or it could be an extra £30k a week in wages towards someone signed on a 4-year deal - just by finishing 3 places higher over the next week.
I'll be massively pissed off if we take our foot off the gas and show signs of being on the beach. These results matter.
Not playing down the importance of any of this and i want us to finish strongly like everyone else. I just think that 14th or 11th has no consequence for Gerrards future and pre season plans etc.
Palace was my last game this season as working up in Newcastle Wednesday to Friday, gutted can’t be there for last home game, but hopefully will find a good pub to watch us tonk this lot and make them have to go for the Geordie feckers on Sunday to send Leeds Leeds Leeds down down down.
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For some reason I’m really really up for this game. I wish it was tomorrow night. I think my brain has become conditioned to matches being crucial at this time of the season.
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Any ST in the lower holte who cant make it give me a shout - for some strange reason she wants to come
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Any ST in the lower holte who cant make it give me a shout - for some strange reason she wants to come
I sit in the lower holte, but my missis will be taking the kids. She wont approve of the swearing, note to self i need to renew before Thursday night!
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Any ST in the lower holte who cant make it give me a shout - for some strange reason she wants to come
I sit in the lower holte, but my missis will be taking the kids. She wont approve of the swearing, note to self i need to renew before Thursday night!
I'm bad but she's worse.
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We will beat Burnley, but it will be harder than the previous week
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Finishing below Newcastle would be a bit shit. Considering where they were when Howe took over, barely a week before Gerrard.
I think Norwich and Everton are the only teams we've doubled this season. Burnley were tougher to beat at Spurs on Saturday. Our home frustration to continue in another draw (remember them?!).
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Finishing below Newcastle would be a bit shit. Considering where they were when Howe took over, barely a week before Gerrard.
I think Norwich and Everton are the only teams we've doubled this season. Burnley were tougher to beat at Spurs on Saturday. Our home frustration to continue in another draw (remember them?!).
We beat Brighton home and away as well.
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Ah yes, two two-nils against the neutrals favourite team, lovely stuff.
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Based on our performance against Palace 1-0 to Burnley.
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Based on our performance against Palace 1-0 to Burnley.
That's a surprise prediction from you ;D
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They do matter to be fair but Sawaris is so rich he could probably use a £6.5m note to wipe his arse with. Wouldn’t worry too much about that side of things.
That doesn't matter, it's about the revenue. I thought people had got this by now?
Either way, I'll be pissed off if we don't win. It's already been a dissapointing season, lets finish it with some respectability.
I remember when SGT left the second time, he said something like that the fun had gone out of the game for him when just going down one place in the league could cost the club 1m quid or so.
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Based on our performance against Palace 1-0 to Burnley.
How about our performance against, erm, let me see, Burnley?
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Was very impressed with them against Spurs, after the first 20 min onslaught from Spurs, Burnley were more than a match and were unlucky not to get a point. If we play like we did against Palace I think we will lose. 4th game in 12 games, SG needs to make changes, Chambers in for Konsa and would expect Buendia, JJ, Sanson and possibly Bert or one of the youngsters to start.
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Was very impressed with them against Spurs, after the first 20 min onslaught from Spurs, Burnley were more than a match and were unlucky not to get a point. If we play like we did against Palace I think we will lose. 4th game in 12 games, SG needs to make changes, Chambers in for Konsa and would expect Buendia, JJ, Sanson and possibly Bert or one of the youngsters to start.
I would hope to see Beundia (and Coutinhio) and Ramsey in for Ings and Luiz, also Chambers for Konsa.
Id hazard a guess that we’ll never see Sanson play for Villa again and possibly the same for Traore as well.
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They do matter to be fair but Sawaris is so rich he could probably use a £6.5m note to wipe his arse with. Wouldn’t worry too much about that side of things.
It's not about the wealth of the owners, and yes £6.5m is pennies to them - it's about the financial fair play rules. An extra £6.5m in revenue means more money they can pump into the club without falling foul of the rules. And I'm sure they're happy to pump in as much as they're allowed to. £6.5m isn't a huge amount, even in premier league terms, but it's enough to make a difference to a hypothetical contract we can or can't offer someone.
Sunday is a free hit, so this has to be us going all-out for the win. I think it will say a lot about Gerrard's ability to motivate the players. They will definitely be up for it, no question. Will we?
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Was very impressed with them against Spurs, after the first 20 min onslaught from Spurs, Burnley were more than a match and were unlucky not to get a point. If we play like we did against Palace I think we will lose. 4th game in 12 games, SG needs to make changes, Chambers in for Konsa and would expect Buendia, JJ, Sanson and possibly Bert or one of the youngsters to start.
Sanson? Would love to see it but the guy's been persona non-grata'd.
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I'm actually going to this one, so no doubt we'll get spanked. I apologise in advance.
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I'm actually going to this one, so no doubt we'll get spanked. I apologise in advance.
Me too, looking forward to getting home at 2am if the traffic behaves itself, wouldn't want to leave early like all those other wankers.
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Gutted I can no longer go as I have tested Covid pos but hopefully we will make a few changes and hammer them. Does anybody know if the ticket office give refunds for Covid?
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Finishing 14th/15th would be a disgrace and owners would need to really think hard if SG should be in charge next season.
The fact that he does not play those who perform well (Buendia being one) to accommodate friends tells us all we need to know about how the future will look and how frustrated players will become
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When you're smilin', when you're smilin'
The whole world smiles with you
When you're laughin', when you're laughin'
The sun comes shinin' through....................
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Finishing 14th/15th would be a disgrace and owners would need to really think hard if SG should be in charge next season.
The fact that he does not play those who perform well (Buendia being one) to accommodate friends tells us all we need to know about how the future will look and how frustrated players will become
Drinks shot.
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Finishing 14th/15th would be a disgrace and owners would need to really think hard if SG should be in charge next season.
The fact that he does not play those who perform well (Buendia being one) to accommodate friends tells us all we need to know about how the future will look and how frustrated players will become
Drinks shot.
It's only just gone 11 and I'm wasted.
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Finishing 14th/15th would be a disgrace and owners would need to really think hard if SG should be in charge next season.
The fact that he does not play those who perform well (Buendia being one) to accommodate friends tells us all we need to know about how the future will look and how frustrated players will become
The day I see an optimistic post by ol' flinty is the day I know the apocalypse is coming
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Finishing 14th/15th would be a disgrace and owners would need to really think hard if SG should be in charge next season.
The fact that he does not play those who perform well (Buendia being one) to accommodate friends tells us all we need to know about how the future will look and how frustrated players will become
Drinks shot.
It's only just gone 11 and I'm wasted.
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It's hard to fine one with only SIX Home wins and struggle to beat anyone in the top half of the table
We've lost more games than Burnley
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It might be SEVEN come 10pm tonight.
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No fair play, it would be absolutely delusional to think that there is the most miniscule ground for optimism that we might win a home game against a side in the bottom three who we tonked on their own ground less than a fortnight ago.
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I’m concerned that if we play badly enough tonight the FA might deduct 30 points from us and we’ll go down in bottom place.
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I still can't believe people are talking about this season as being 'disastrous' if we don't finish 11th. With lots of mentions of the comparative job done by Eddie Howe at Newcastle. But people forget that Howe followed Bruce - there was LOADS of improvement he could make - and quickly - on the previous incumbent. Gerrard followed Smith. And although the results have been better on the whole since he took over, he was still following a competent manager in Smith so it's not like he was going to turn us into European challengers overnight.
Tonight and Sunday won't define our season. However it could make a big difference on where we finish and put a few extra million quid in the pot this summer, but whether we get six points, or none, Gerrard is safe and we will be planning for the summer accordingly.
Personally, I think we'll put on a bit of a show tonight, and Burnley's heads will drop when they go behind.
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Sky are saying Martinez is a doubt and Tarkowski and Mee may be available for selection.
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Finishing 14th/15th would be a disgrace and owners would need to really think hard if SG should be in charge next season.
The fact that he does not play those who perform well (Buendia being one) to accommodate friends tells us all we need to know about how the future will look and how frustrated players will become
Ah, our little ray of sunshine. Your posts make me feel so happy. Offers there to let me have your ticket if you don’t want it mate as this sport seems to depress you. May I recommend fishing?
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Apart from those who dwell in Bedrock I see a villa victory. Up the villa
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Win. Whatever consequences for other teams.
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I do agree that Buendia has earned a starting place. Arguably our best player over the last month or so.
Hope we win, but won't won't devastated if we don't.
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If we play Buendia we must play Ings. The latter reads those through balls brilliantly.