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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 26, 2018, 04:54:16 PM
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We were average. But did enough thankfully. Well done Conor and thank fuck for Nyland. We haven’t said that much this season.
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3 points. Boxing Day. Well done!
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Christmas miracle.
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Got away with that, pretty poor.
Well done Nyland, good performance and great, crucial penalty save.
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Every win we can somehow squeeze out with this bare bones defence is fine by me whichever way they come.
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Wasn't great at times but a Boxing Day win and a clean sheet.
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Just said in match thread but that reminds me of Boro away last season. We won that 1-0 ugly after indifferent run and went on a winning streak afterwards.
Lucky with the penalty but those sorts of things can change seasons.
No issue with winning ugly in our circumstances. Would sign up for another boring 0-1 at Preston.
2nd is still just about in play.
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Deano to team in dressing room post match:
"Repeat after me: Clean sheets = wins."
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Bit of a struggle that. Give Nyland the jersey in the FA cup.
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Never in doubt😧
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
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Nyland take a bow. Three points is everything.
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3 points are all that matter. Defensive reinforcements and shake up required urgently during the window.
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Used the match thread for updates on the game. Sounded like we were a bit unconvincing. Thing is, with this defence and without Grealish, winning games against decent (for-the-championship) teams isn't easy. Credit to the manager and fit players for digging out this result. Keeps us in contention. Just.
Also seems Leeds have got another late win. What's theta now, 7 / 8 games won on the trot? That is the kind of run we ned to go on to get into the top 2.
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Norwich
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Good three points. Well done Nyland!
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
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Draws no good. Has to be wins.
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
what did I fucking say in the match thread? FFS. It's why that lot and Leeds will go up.
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2nd is gone. Not just mathematically, but if the two teams in those spots are getting equalisers and winners in injury time and having half the game to play after the 90th minute, you should probably accept your play off spot.
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90+4 and 90+8, feckers.
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
what did I fucking say in the match thread? FFS. It's why that lot and Leeds will go up.
I'm guessing you predicted a draw.
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
Great... sees us move up another place!
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Well we managed not to throw it away (again) - despite the trademark defensive muppetry! Well done to Conor for a moment of quality; and Nyland for saving our arses. Roll on the defensive upgrades (if there's any money in the pot) & the return of JG.
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
what did I fucking say in the match thread? FFS. It's why that lot and Leeds will go up.
I'm guessing you predicted a draw.
Someone (Tuscan's I think) commented on Norwich going 3-0 down and I just said read the score again at 5 to 5. Or whenever the game ended. Fuck, not often I'm right and I didn't want to be here...
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
what did I fucking say in the match thread? FFS. It's why that lot and Leeds will go up.
I'm guessing you predicted a draw.
Someone (Tuscan's I think) commented on Norwich going 3-0 down and I just said read the score again at 5 to 5. Or whenever the game ended. Fuck, not often I'm right and I didn't want to be here...
Grass
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Can't understand why people are worrying about Leeds. Unless we go on the mother of all runs, we are challenging for play offs at best now. To achieve even that, we need to bed in a new goalie and hopefully, some other quality additions. I think we need to be patient and let this management team rebuild in this window and the next.
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90+4 and 90+8, feckers.
That's got to be fixed! How many matches is that now?
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Can't understand why people are worrying about Leeds. Unless we go on the mother of all runs, we are challenging for play offs at best now. To achieve even that, we need to bed in a new goalie and hopefully, some other quality additions. I think we need to be patient and let this management team rebuild in this window and the next.
Because we're the dreamer of dreams
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
Great... sees us move up another place!
Agree. We need teams between us and Norwich to drop points. Automatic places are gone and playoffs will be a struggle based on the last few games.
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
Great... sees us move up another place!
Agree. We need teams between us and Norwich to drop points. Automatic places are gone and playoffs will be a struggle based on the last few games.
With 22 games left you think playoffs will be a struggle....really?
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
what did I fucking say in the match thread? FFS. It's why that lot and Leeds will go up.
I'm guessing you predicted a draw.
Someone (Tuscan's I think) commented on Norwich going 3-0 down and I just said read the score again at 5 to 5. Or whenever the game ended. Fuck, not often I'm right and I didn't want to be here...
Grass
LOL sorry mate
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
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Automatics aint gone
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Live league table has us 10th, 3 points behind Penis' team in 5th.
Fucking Norwich...3-0 down and now without a couple of minutes of injury time left 2-3.
3-3 Now!
Great... sees us move up another place!
Agree. We need teams between us and Norwich to drop points. Automatic places are gone and playoffs will be a struggle based on the last few games.
With 22 games left you think playoffs will be a struggle....really?
It obviously depends a lot on what happens in January and thereafter but based on current injury situation, league position and last 3 performances it’s not exactly a gimme.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
Agree we’ve lacked quality and energy. That needs to change, and Whelan does nothing.
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It was a scrappy game today but we did the job in the end and that is what matters. I though were were poor in the first half an hour but picked up a bit towards the end of the first half and then I thought we were the better side in the second half.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
The only positive might be that it shows that despite what was overall a below par performance, and with numerous injuries that we can still games against most teams in this league. We are lucky today that Swansea are mostly crap but that's 85% of this league.
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I didn’t realise Swansea were that poor tbh. There was a period where they repeatedly got in behind us and blew their scoring opportunities. We didn’t have that much to do with the clean sheet as they did but still I’ll take the win.
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Nice way to end the year.
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With 22 games left you think playoffs will be a struggle....really?
After losing to Millwall we were 3 points off the playoffs, after 12 games under Smith we're still 3 points off. I think we'll make it but I don't think it will be a doddle either.
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I am not Whelans biggest fan but we don’t have any one else fit to do what he does.
We won today in no small part because of the cover he provided in front of the back 4.
Also well done Nyland, he showed today that he can leave his line and gather or clear which I think has been a major weakness.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Starting at Deepdale please with the backing of 6k fans - come on Villa lets do this !!!!
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Nyland my MOTM amazing what a bit of competition for the jersey can do.
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We dont usually win on boxing day, we dont usually win at Swansea and we dont usually keep clean sheets so ill take that 0-1 all day long.
Massive difference in how we have played pre and post Grealish's injury though. He dictates the way we play and really is that important to us.
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Automatics aint gone
Fkn right we aint, three draws and three losses behind dirty leeds, no problem.
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Automatic promotion is unlikely. Play-offs still well within our reach.
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Nice way to end the year.
If you are going to steal quotes from Shakin' Stevens songs you could at least have the decency to credit him or name check him. ;)
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
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We dont usually win on boxing day, we dont usually win at Swansea and we dont usually keep clean sheets so ill take that 0-1 all day long.
Massive difference in how we have played pre and post Grealish's injury though. He dictates the way we play and really is that important to us.
For those who wanted him dropped. :-[
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With 22 games left you think playoffs will be a struggle....really?
After losing to Millwall we were 3 points off the playoffs, after 12 games under Smith we're still 3 points off. I think we'll make it but I don't think it will be a doddle either.
Yeah but we've had our tricky run now, the bitch it was. We have all the shitties next and now and I just can't see 7 of the 8 above us keeping up the form they've all been on throughout next year. I think we'll smash a few in 19.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
Agree we’ve lacked quality and energy. That needs to change, and Whelan does nothing.
To be fair, the last 3 games we've been playing without arguably the most talented player in the league. Fucking Albion wankers.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
That's the ticket
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
And there is a big difference between playing well, losing in the game and coming back to draw and win vs playing shit and winning. The former builds immense confidence that no situation is dead until the game is over, and most of the time you are winning those games anyway. The latter as you say has very limited life and always comes to an end with an unfortunate bang.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
We need to strengthen, improve and tighten up at the back because as much as I am happy to take 1-0 wins I don't think with our current defence we will be winning too many games by that scoreline.
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We dont usually win on boxing day, we dont usually win at Swansea and we dont usually keep clean sheets so ill take that 0-1 all day long.
Massive difference in how we have played pre and post Grealish's injury though. He dictates the way we play and really is that important to us.
I don't think Grealish dictates the way we play (Smith does that), what he does is take players away from McGinn, Bolasie etc. Giving them freedom to perform. At the moment everything we do is checked by the opposition, so we struggle to break them down. We need him back.
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Today goes to prove that a clean sheet = 3 points as we will score. A few new decent defenders in January and we’ll be fine.
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We dont usually win on boxing day, we dont usually win at Swansea and we dont usually keep clean sheets so ill take that 0-1 all day long.
Massive difference in how we have played pre and post Grealish's injury though. He dictates the way we play and really is that important to us.
I don't think Grealish dictates the way we play (Smith does that), what he does is take players away from McGinn, Bolasie etc. Giving them freedom to perform. At the moment everything we do is checked by the opposition, so we struggle to break them down. We need him back.
And we get a lot more free kicks with him on on the pitch.
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Match Highlights (https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11591870/swansea-0-1-aston-villa)
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Anyone got the boxing day farts?
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No.
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I think I parked in Cardiff today!
Negatives
The first half.
The midfield 3 were flat and our movement on and off the ball was glacial.
We stood off them and couldn't keep possession.
Positives
Despite how bad we were first half they only created one chance and we probably should have scored at least one with McGinn and Abrahams header.
Second half was improved. Much more threat as McGinn and Hourihane committed further forward, with the ball moving at tempo and us pressing better.
We ground it out but as an attacking force second half we were much better than them.
It was a silly penalty, but we'll done Nyland.
We can get away with it against the likes of Swansea and first half we did. 2nd half I think showed why we'll make the Play Offs.
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3 points is all
The move to 4231 after 20nmins helped as mcginn was much closer to Abraham. Shame ohare is injured as he could play that role.
Good spell either side of half time and the goal was coming
With this run of fixtures, the good thing is we can win without playing well much more readily. It is odd that our home games are like basketball but we generally show good control away
Bree did well
I'd freshen it up a bit for Preston
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One thing we did in the second half which we havent done for a few games was close the opposition down when they had the ball. It wasn't a great performance but it doesn't always need to be. Anyway, it was a good response from the Leeds defeat.
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Automatics aint gone
Fkn right we aint, three draws and three losses behind dirty leeds, no problem.
Just over half the season gone, a long way to go. Just need to sort our defence out and we can get auto. Look what Fulham did last season.
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Automatics aint gone
Next season.
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3 points is all
The move to 4231 after 20nmins helped as mcginn was much closer to Abraham. Shame ohare is injured as he could play that role.
Good spell either side of half time and the goal was coming
With this run of fixtures, the good thing is we can win without playing well much more readily. It is odd that our home games are like basketball but we generally show good control away
Bree did well
I'd freshen it up a bit for Preston
Yes so good to listen to Dean explaining why and how he changed it. Bruce would have just brought more strikers on
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Automatics aint gone
Next season.
You can't get promoted from the PL Olly...
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Can't understand why people are worrying about Leeds. Unless we go on the mother of all runs, we are challenging for play offs at best now. To achieve even that, we need to bed in a new goalie and hopefully, some other quality additions. I think we need to be patient and let this management team rebuild in this window and the next.
Absolutely right.
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This wasn't the Villa we were admiring so much until the Stoke game. We seem to have lost the exciting attacking flair, or perhaps other teams are getting wise to us. That said, we were the better side today and had the better chances. Even before the penalty I was thinking that Nyland was probably our best player, and the save confirmed it. He must have been encouraged by the warm applause he got at the end.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Precisely, sustained performance will ultimately drive the results we need to go up.
I think the players need to be fitter.
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This wasn't the Villa we were admiring so much until the Stoke game. We seem to have lost the exciting attacking flair, or perhaps other teams are getting wise to us. That said, we were the better side today and had the better chances. Even before the penalty I was thinking that Nyland was probably our best player, and the save confirmed it. He must have been encouraged by the warm applause he got at the end.
And yet some of our fans would have hounded him out of town with pitchforks
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On performances, I agree something has changed since West brom
You'd have to say grealish being absent is a massive factor. Especially as we just don't have a like for like alternative (tho as above, if we do play more of a 4231 ohare could come in when fit)
It must also be that teams have watched us and are more attuned to what we're trying to do
I think a bit of tiredness too perhaps?
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I have this feeling that we will be playing Small Heath or Sandwell Town in the play offs or maybe even both .Both keep winning
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Norwich and Leeds are living off last minute goals.
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Norwich and Leeds are living off last minute goals.
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Yeah but so did the Red slime under Fergie for a decade or two and it didn’t hold them back. Unfortunately.
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3 points is all
The move to 4231 after 20nmins helped as mcginn was much closer to Abraham. Shame ohare is injured as he could play that role.
Good spell either side of half time and the goal was coming
With this run of fixtures, the good thing is we can win without playing well much more readily. It is odd that our home games are like basketball but we generally show good control away
Bree did well
I'd freshen it up a bit for Preston
Yes so good to listen to Dean explaining why and how he changed it. Bruce would have just brought more strikers on
Or Chris Samba .....
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Norwich and Leeds are living off last minute goals.
I still think the performance is what dictates things. For example Leeds got a last minute winner against us, but they fully deserved to win. They didn’t mug us and if they play like that every week they will go up and win many games at a canter.
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Norwich won't last the pace, but they'll be top 6. Albion & Leeds for top 2. We'll be in the playoffs, but if we get the necessary re-inforcments there's an outside chance of top 2, but it will take a run of 10 or so wins on the bounce.
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Villa guys, Villa. Bugger off to 'other football' if Leeds are all you wish to discuss!!
Today, we still seem to take the wrong option at times and give the ball away too cheaply. Nyland had a solid game and it feels good to get a clean sheet. Hutton and Elmo had to cope with a lot of diagonal balls and coped ok. Whelan is still absolute cack. Hourihane scored but didn't seem to do too much more than that. El Ghazi, wtf were you doing? Bolasie was unpredictable. Nice goal and I thought we were just about the better side overall. Chester was better today. Deserved win. Had we have drawn both festive games, we may have been satisfied, therefore, I reckon we might be a point better off as it stands. Good win, average performance, one day closer to the transfer window opening. McGinn was great but now has 9 bookings for the season.
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There's a reason Leeds, Norwich and the bitters are talked about a fair bit, and the likes of Wigan, Bolton and Rotherham aren't.
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Anyone got the boxing day farts?
I have, mine started around 1 am this morning, I dropped one this morning so bad the cat looked at me in disgust and left the house in a hurry via the cat flap only to return 4 hours later.
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Villa guys, Villa. Bugger off to 'other football' if Leeds are all you wish to discuss!!
Today, we still seem to take the wrong option at times and give the ball away too cheaply. Nyland had a solid game and it feels good to get a clean sheet. Hutton and Elmo had to cope with a lot of diagonal balls and coped ok. Whelan is still absolute cack. Hourihane scored but didn't seem to do too much more than that. El Ghazi, wtf were you doing? Bolasie was unpredictable. Nice goal and I thought we were just about the better side overall. Chester was better today. Deserved win. Had we have drawn both festive games, we may have been satisfied, therefore, I reckon we might be a point better off as it stands. Good win, average performance, one day closer to the transfer window opening. McGinn was great but now has 9 bookings for the season.
I stopped reading after you told me to bugger off.
We are all Villa too so please try to be more polite to your fellow Villains.
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I thought we were pretty decent 2nd half and even Hourihane looked more likely as both he and McGinn got in advanced positions.
Not brilliant or close to our best, but our wingers and generally attacking play makes us too strong for most.
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Villa guys, Villa. Bugger off to 'other football' if Leeds are all you wish to discuss!!
Today, we still seem to take the wrong option at times and give the ball away too cheaply. Nyland had a solid game and it feels good to get a clean sheet. Hutton and Elmo had to cope with a lot of diagonal balls and coped ok. Whelan is still absolute cack. Hourihane scored but didn't seem to do too much more than that. El Ghazi, wtf were you doing? Bolasie was unpredictable. Nice goal and I thought we were just about the better side overall. Chester was better today. Deserved win. Had we have drawn both festive games, we may have been satisfied, therefore, I reckon we might be a point better off as it stands. Good win, average performance, one day closer to the transfer window opening. McGinn was great but now has 9 bookings for the season.
I stopped reading after you told me to bugger off.
We are all Villa too so please try to be more polite to your fellow Villains.
There is a football thread for other teams as this is the Villa post match thread. Merry Christmas, sorry if I offended anyone.
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I have this feeling that we will be playing Small Heath or Sandwell Town in the play offs or maybe even both .Both keep winning
it's a distinct possibility - just imagine playing either in the play off final at Wembley ......makes me shudder even thinking about it
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And post-match people are talking about the teams we need to catch if we want to finish top 2. Same as last season there'd be plenty of talk post-match about Cardiff and Fulham.
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The least enjoyable watch of Smiths reign, but three very valuable points.
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I didn’t realise Swansea were that poor tbh. There was a period where they repeatedly got in behind us and blew their scoring opportunities. We didn’t have that much to do with the clean sheet as they did but still I’ll take the win.
They lost 1-4 at home to Norwich recently WBA beat them 4 days later aswell.
In fairness Graham Potter playing a lot of kids atm so they are in transition and will probably be much stronger next season.
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I have this feeling that we will be playing Small Heath or Sandwell Town in the play offs or maybe even both .Both keep winning
West Brom will get second.
Having Norwich or Boro in the play offs would be brilliant for us I think.
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I thought we were pretty decent 2nd half and even Hourihane looked more likely as both he and McGinn got in advanced positions.
Not brilliant or close to our best, but our wingers and generally attacking play makes us too strong for most.
Seemed to me like we created more in the first half? McGinn and Abraham also put on wide. Second half was very much retreat after Hourihane goal and hang on for the 1-0.
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I thought we were pretty decent 2nd half and even Hourihane looked more likely as both he and McGinn got in advanced positions.
Not brilliant or close to our best, but our wingers and generally attacking play makes us too strong for most.
I thought Swansea would cause us more problems with two wingers and two centre forwards, when they made their substitutions, but they didn't really, until El Ghazi had a brain fart.
Seemed to me like we created more in the first half? McGinn and Abraham also put on wide. Second half was very much retreat after Hourihane goal and hang on for the 1-0.
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I thought either side of half time a goal was coming
Mcginn was possibly pushed in the box before we scored - would have been a sitter.
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Automatics aint gone
Next season.
You can't get promoted from the PL Olly...
Pardon me I thought Tony said Champions League qualification.😊
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Villa guys, Villa. Bugger off to 'other football' if Leeds are all you wish to discuss!!
Today, we still seem to take the wrong option at times and give the ball away too cheaply. Nyland had a solid game and it feels good to get a clean sheet. Hutton and Elmo had to cope with a lot of diagonal balls and coped ok. Whelan is still absolute cack. Hourihane scored but didn't seem to do too much more than that. El Ghazi, wtf were you doing? Bolasie was unpredictable. Nice goal and I thought we were just about the better side overall. Chester was better today. Deserved win. Had we have drawn both festive games, we may have been satisfied, therefore, I reckon we might be a point better off as it stands. Good win, average performance, one day closer to the transfer window opening. McGinn was great but now has 9 bookings for the season.
I stopped reading after you told me to bugger off.
We are all Villa too so please try to be more polite to your fellow Villains.
There is a football thread for other teams as this is the Villa post match thread. Merry Christmas, sorry if I offended anyone.
Merry Christmas
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I have this feeling that we will be playing Small Heath or Sandwell Town in the play offs or maybe even both .Both keep winning
West Brom will get second.
Having Norwich or Boro in the play offs would be brilliant for us I think.
You won't be saying that when we are beating Norwich 1-0 in the play off final and the board goes up to show eight minutes of injury time. ;)
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I have this feeling that we will be playing Small Heath or Sandwell Town in the play offs or maybe even both .Both keep winning
Aston Villa will get second.
Having Norwich or Boro in the play offs would be brilliant for them I think.
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I have this feeling that we will be playing Small Heath or Sandwell Town in the play offs or maybe even both .Both keep winning
West Brom will get second.
Having Norwich or Boro in the play offs would be brilliant for us I think.
You won't be saying that when we are beating Norwich 1-0 in the play off final and the board goes up to show eighteen minutes of injury time. ;)
Fixed.
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I have this feeling that we will be playing Small Heath or Sandwell Town in the play offs or maybe even both .Both keep winning
West Brom will get second.
Having Norwich or Boro in the play offs would be brilliant for us I think.
You won't be saying that when we are beating Norwich 1-0 in the play off final and the board goes up to show eight minutes of injury time. ;)
Already got my 50 quid insurance bet on Norwich to qualify after 90 minutes ready. ;)
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Apparently James Bree was very good today. He deserves a good run now. I'll be annoyed if he gets dropped on Saturday. Give him a chance ffs!!
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Welcome three points. Wouldn’t have said another midfielder was a priority but changed my view based on today.
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Just back, relieved at the win. Grateful to Nyland who recouped a couple of the points he's cost us this season.
The first half wasn't great at all; like Leeds they were playing lots of diagonal balls to the flanks, if not always as successsfully - surely we must cotton more quickly on to teams doing that against us?
Also we were forced to pass back to Nyland so many times and he had no option but to kick long.
I thought Hutton was positionally poor although he set up the goal, and Bolasie rarely gave him any help by tracking back.
Hourihane is a perplexing conundrum. He was fairly anonymous in the first half, better in the second, and scored the winner and is always a threat from a free kick or a shot from 25 yards. I just don't see the point in trying to play him in a more defensive role.
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Great result! Well done Villa boys! It was important to stay in touch with top 6, ahead of January transfer window, when hopefully (with incomings) we can push on. Pleased with clean sheet and Nyland's performance. Great pen save. He made a good attempt vs stoke also. Pleased also for Bree.
Conor showed his worth again. Goals and assists that we're lucky enough to have, but I'm sure is the envy of other championship clubs. Keep up the good work Deano! VTID!
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Apparently James Bree was very good today. He deserves a good run now. I'll be annoyed if he gets dropped on Saturday. Give him a chance ffs!!
Dropped for who?
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Apparently James Bree was very good today. He deserves a good run now. I'll be annoyed if he gets dropped on Saturday. Give him a chance ffs!!
Dropped for who?
jedinak .. whens he fit again?
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Apparently James Bree was very good today. He deserves a good run now. I'll be annoyed if he gets dropped on Saturday. Give him a chance ffs!!
Dropped for who?
jedinak .. whens he fit again?
training again tomorrow i think
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Automatics aint gone
Fkn right we aint, three draws and three losses behind dirty leeds, no problem.
Just over half the season gone, a long way to go. Just need to sort our defence out and we can get auto. Look what Fulham did last season.
Fulham had an unbelievable run and still only finished 3rd. Our imbalanced squad means we can get to the play offs but no chance for automatic in my opinion. We are too far adrift.
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Apparently James Bree was very good today. He deserves a good run now. I'll be annoyed if he gets dropped on Saturday. Give him a chance ffs!!
No ta. First clean sheet since whenever. Bree can stay
Dropped for who?
jedinak .. whens he fit again?
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Our defence is nowhere good enough to gain promotion although Nyland had his best ever game today. Swansea a depressing place and you can stock that drum. What was el gaze thinking about with that challenge. Preston it is
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Our defence is nowhere good enough to gain promotion although Nyland had his best ever game today. Swansea a depressing place and you can stock that drum. What was el gaze thinking about with that challenge. Preston it is
I agree with all of that....except that I don't think Swansea is depressing. Had a great walk and brunch in the Mumbles overlooking the bay. Has some great coastline nearby too.
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Basically will take that. A clean sheet !
Wasn't greatest performance but a ground out win for the victory and a bit of luck/skill to save the pen.
Have to say Hourihane has such a knack for goals quite ridiculous.
And bolasie and el ghazi as front players who can get away from 3 or 4 players surrounding them in tight areas are incredibly skill full and better than half the premier league players for skill level.
Kodjia and Abrahams are not too bad either so can't think of more footy skilled attacking players in league.
Up the villa.
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Footy skills are really important to you, aren't they?
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Anyone got the boxing day farts?
I have, mine started around 1 am this morning, I dropped one this morning so bad the cat looked at me in disgust and left the house in a hurry via the cat flap only to return 4 hours later.
:)
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Anyone got the boxing day farts?
I have, mine started around 1 am this morning, I dropped one this morning so bad the cat looked at me in disgust and left the house in a hurry via the cat flap only to return 4 hours later.
:)
He is not joking. My missus got in the car an hour after Jon and stated the car smelt 'funny'.
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Extended Highlights (https://youtu.be/sH0IebFfU94)
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Enjoyed yesterday, both on and off the pitch.
Tight game, thought they were brighter and sharper than us, but didn't really cause us too many problems. Bree and Chester looked alright together. It seemed a single goal would win it and so it proved.
Great run and cross by TSC and excellent header by Conor. Atmosphere in the second half was much better (first half was like a morgue) and well done to Nyland. I'm still far from convinced, but he's done better in the last few games and obviously did well saving the pen from Bony.
Good to see almost all the players handing their shirts into the crowd at the end too.
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Footy skills are really important to you, aren't they?
The beautiful game !!
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Nor is playing sexy football sustainable, what we need is the ability to win with good football and also win ugly. Get to January and sign only defenders which will help in us achieving that.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Nor is playing sexy football sustainable, what we need is the ability to win with good football and also win ugly. Get to January and sign only defenders which will help in us achieving that.
it's always good if you can grind out a result when you arnt playing well especially if you have a defined pattern and system of play to fall back on which is what I believe Smith is trying to build
it's not so good when the grinding becomes the style of play which you fall back on
I'm really hoping this is the difference between now and what we've seen in the last few years
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Nor is playing sexy football sustainable, what we need is the ability to win with good football and also win ugly. Get to January and sign only defenders which will help in us achieving that.
it's always good if you can grind out a result when you arnt playing well especially if you have a defined pattern and system of play to fall back on which is what I believe Smith is trying to build
it's not so good when the grinding becomes the style of play which you fall back on
I'm really hoping this is the difference between now and what we've seen in the last few years
Summed up perfectly. Gritting our results, whilst performing poorly, is not a long-term success strategy.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Nor is playing sexy football sustainable, what we need is the ability to win with good football and also win ugly. Get to January and sign only defenders which will help in us achieving that.
it's always good if you can grind out a result when you arnt playing well especially if you have a defined pattern and system of play to fall back on which is what I believe Smith is trying to build
it's not so good when the grinding becomes the style of play which you fall back on
I'm really hoping this is the difference between now and what we've seen in the last few years
For me January is when I start to judge Smith, if he signs defenders then I'll be confident in his approach, but if he recalls Elphick and thinks that is enough then goes after attackers and midfielders then I'll have concerns.
The fact that he's already signed a keeper makes me think the 1st scenario is the one that's going to happen.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Nor is playing sexy football sustainable, what we need is the ability to win with good football and also win ugly. Get to January and sign only defenders which will help in us achieving that.
it's always good if you can grind out a result when you arnt playing well especially if you have a defined pattern and system of play to fall back on which is what I believe Smith is trying to build
it's not so good when the grinding becomes the style of play which you fall back on
I'm really hoping this is the difference between now and what we've seen in the last few years
Summed up perfectly. Gritting our results, whilst performing poorly, is not a long-term success strategy.
No but if we want to be successful we have to be able to do both. Play well and win but we also need to be able to grind it out if needed
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I'm sure he knows what he needs to do in order to sort out the shambles Bruce has left us in. We have a high quality GK coming in. A few additions defensively and we will be in far better shape.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Nor is playing sexy football sustainable, what we need is the ability to win with good football and also win ugly. Get to January and sign only defenders which will help in us achieving that.
it's always good if you can grind out a result when you arnt playing well especially if you have a defined pattern and system of play to fall back on which is what I believe Smith is trying to build
it's not so good when the grinding becomes the style of play which you fall back on
I'm really hoping this is the difference between now and what we've seen in the last few years
For me January is when I start to judge Smith, if he signs defenders then I'll be confident in his approach, but if he recalls Elphick and thinks that is enough then goes after attackers and midfielders then I'll have concerns.
The fact that he's already signed a keeper makes me think the 1st scenario is the one that's going to happen.
Still not really sure how much money is going to be available really, especially as we have already shelled out a decent amount of money on the keeper. I think he deserves until the end of the season Bedford any judgement is passed.
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That was mostly a load of shite. Still, won't sniff at a 1-0 win, but we need too be much, much better than we have been of late.
I will take more shite wins with a clean sheet
Playing shit and winning isn't sustainable though, as the 2 years under Bruce showed. We'll all take the shit 1-0 win today, if we want to be a top flight side next year we'll need to improve on the last few games, which I think we will do.
Nor is playing sexy football sustainable, what we need is the ability to win with good football and also win ugly. Get to January and sign only defenders which will help in us achieving that.
it's always good if you can grind out a result when you arnt playing well especially if you have a defined pattern and system of play to fall back on which is what I believe Smith is trying to build
it's not so good when the grinding becomes the style of play which you fall back on
I'm really hoping this is the difference between now and what we've seen in the last few years
For me January is when I start to judge Smith, if he signs defenders then I'll be confident in his approach, but if he recalls Elphick and thinks that is enough then goes after attackers and midfielders then I'll have concerns.
The fact that he's already signed a keeper makes me think the 1st scenario is the one that's going to happen.
Still not really sure how much money is going to be available really, especially as we have already shelled out a decent amount of money on the keeper. I think he deserves until the end of the season Bedford any judgement is passed.
Get Elphick back, send the keeper that must be blind (must be because how else is Nyland in instead of him) back then sign or loan a central defender then we'll have 2 starting centre backs and to back up centre backs. I'm not sure what else is needed as our attack doesn't need work on it.