Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on August 28, 2018, 09:38:07 PM
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*Sigh*
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classic villa
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I do wonder if bruce is working his notice.
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Disgraceful, and another example of Bruce being hopeless. Time to go.
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Sod off Steve.
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Utter shit. Next cab off the rank, please.
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my pants are well and truly wet
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You have to laugh....
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Fuck off Bruce you stegosaurus
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My patience with Bruce is hanging by a thread and I think I may be more generous than most.
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Tiresome to follow the progress of this match on SSN but we were never going to win the thing, it generates nil revenue I would imagine. Time to concentrate on getting out of this league. Hardly leaves you with the confidence that Bruce is the man.
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Defensive line-up with nothing to change it from the bench. Against League 1 Burton. Got precisely what we deserved. Wonder who he'll blame this week
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Ipswich
Brentford
Reading
Burton
No disrespect to any of them, but we've got a squad that cost millions and a manager earning a fucking fortune and couldn't beat one of them. Abysmal. That man is a waste of time and space. Get rid.
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That's the Carabao Cup for ya.
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Shambolic, clueless, inexcusable, Steve Bruce needs to think long and hard about his role at the club, take the money and go, he's a spent force.
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Cue him at the press conference imploding whilst holding up four fingers shouting the press. ‘RESPECT, FOUR PROMOTIONS EVERYONE ELSE IVE NO FCUKIN IDEA.’
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well that was a shock …….. well not really
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Won't someone rid us of this idiot Bruce.*
* Nods to Henry 2nd
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Yet another Bruce total clusterfuck.
Get rid now.
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Another Bruce Master Class. It doesn't matter who we play, or the personnel he picks, it invariably looks like a team of strangers who have just met in the tunnel. They barely put 3 passes together and create virtually nothing. It is hoof ball to make your eyes bleed. We are going nowhere with this bloke in charge.
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Feel desperately sorry for those who were there. He's not lost the away fans since he's been here. After tonight, that might change.
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So we lose our unbeaten record to a team nearly bottom of League one?
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I hate that mentality of not caring about the cups. Yes, it'll be won by bloody Leicester or something, but contempt breeds familiarity in this case. It's a loss where no loss was necessary, particularly in a season where we've started less than glowingly.
Most of all, I'm sick of getting the flick from nonner teams. Burton, Millwall, Leyton Orient. Fuck off.
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I have been in the give him a chance camp but tonight sounded unforgivable. MON did it and never recovered and I doubt Bruce will now. What on earth was he thinking? His job is on the line and he does that! And what about his back room, what the fuck do they do? Does he ignore them or do they just do as they are told?
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To be honest who cares it was very much a reserve team out there and we ain't winning this competition any time soon. Sorry for the fans who went obviously but everyone knew the team he'd put out - similar to Peterborough and look what happened after that game.
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Starting with 5 defenders against the might of Burton. I'm amazed that with such a genius we're on yet another 4 game winless run.
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Yes we failed to get promoted.
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Absolute joke. The guy is a dinosaur and has no tactics or plan. Some observations
1. Any young kid he plays them down. Etc really helps there confidence not
2. RDL very good in preseason dumped ..... sure he is motivated.
3. Moans about the schedule but instead doesn’t say good chance for others to push for a place always a negative
4. We are managed by a defender his assistant is a defender his first team coach is a dcm abd Steve Agnew was a second rate midfielder at best it doesn’t exactly help and aid creative thinking.
We desperate need to get rid now he might be a nice guy but the same mistakes are made over and over again and in two and half years we have no idea what our style is.
He has to go!!!
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Yet another defeat against Lower league opposition in a cup competition. Still, we've had this drummed into us over the years that it's doesn't matter that much any more.
Expectations continue to be lowered,
Too many games anyway. In August.
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Feel desperately sorry for those who were there. He's not lost the away fans since he's been here. After tonight, that might change.
this
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I hate that mentality of not caring about the cups. Yes, it'll be won by bloody Leicester or something, but contempt breeds familiarity in this case. It's a loss where no loss was necessary, particularly in a season where we've started less than glowingly.
Most of all, I'm sick of getting the flick from nonner teams. Burton, Millwall, Leyton Orient. Fuck off.
This is exactly correct, what so bad about going as far as you can and coming up against the likes of Liverpool or Chelsea, Spurs Man City, who knows what might happen, these are the teams that are above this competition, so they feel, not Villa.
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Yet another defeat against Lower league opposition in a cup competition. Still, we've had this drummed into us over the years that it's doesn't matter that much any more.
Expectations continue to be lowered,
Too many games anyway. In August.
With an international break after the next game.
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Disgraceful management by Bruce tonight! He's picking teams like a man who knows he's on his way out. Totally disrespectful by the "nice" man to the travelling support tonight! F-ck off Bruce!
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To be honest who cares it was very much a reserve team out there and we ain't winning this competition any time soon. Sorry for the fans who went obviously but everyone knew the team he'd put out - similar to Peterborough and look what happened after that game.
I care and quite honestly if he was so bothered about 7 games in 21 days I would rather he fucked off the U23 competition last night and play the bloody kids as i would have more sympathy
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Our views count for nothing. It’s up to the new owners whether they keep the ‘anti-manager’.
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Sheffield United away next. Lose that and it makes it a very ordinary start to the season. The pressure is on.
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I have no idea if anybody knows the answer to this, but what experience fo the new owners have in hiring and firing football managers? It feels like we don't have a body in place to make those kind of decisions.
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Sheffield United away next. Lose that and it makes it a very ordinary start to the season. The pressure is on.
Don’t worry he will do enough....
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Sheffield United away next. Lose that and it makes it a very ordinary start to the season. The pressure is on.
Yes it will be interesting to see what wistful little piece of magic Stevie boy will conjure up for this one, now we have familiarized ourselves with how to lose again.
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I have no idea if anybody knows the answer to this, but what experience fo the new owners have in hiring and firing football managers? It feels like we don't have a body in place to make those kind of decisions.
Well our manager doesn’t look like he has any experience in football to be honest.
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His moaning about the number of games and his team selection make it obvious he doesn’t give a shit about this competition. Pretty sure his team talks were half arsed too. This attitude will of course be reflected in the teams performance. They would have been better off allowing the assistant manager to take sole charge of the cup games. Give Bruce a nice break and time to focus on the league 🤦♂️
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I have no idea if anybody knows the answer to this, but what experience fo the new owners have in hiring and firing football managers? It feels like we don't have a body in place to make those kind of decisions.
I was under the impression the American guy has a lot of experience in that department doesn’t he?
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To me, it was obvious from that bench that Bruce didn't care what the result was tonight. If we won, great, but there was no way he was chasing it.
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We were the championship team to lose to one from a lower league. Time he went.
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I do take his point though about the number of games (although we cant use it as an excuse, it's the same for every team in our league). We'll have played our 8th game of the season already on Saturday. I think every manager will say that's too many after just under a month.
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To me, it was obvious from that bench that Bruce didn't care what the result was tonight. If we won, great, but there was no way he was chasing it.
Just the few little clips that we have seen on Sky and the players look like they are doing things at half pace. The penalty was a back pass. Utterly disgusting attitude from all of them. Total crap.
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Great, well we won’t need to worry about the cup anymore.
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It may be our 8th game, but that team hasn't played eight games.
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Shameful result, where’s the pride in the badge?
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I expect the line we will be much better on Saturday I can assure you of that .... twat
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the penalty was like one of those charity penalties against some little kid when you actually do all you can so the keeper saves it
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/carabao-cup/11484573/burton-1-0-aston-villa)
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Do we have to enter these competitions if the manager doesn’t want to play in them? Serious question.
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Do we have to enter these competitions if the manager doesn’t want to play in them? Serious question.
You think half the clubs in the Premier League would enter if it was voluntary?
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I do take his point though about the number of games (although we cant use it as an excuse, it's the same for every team in our league). We'll have played our 8th game of the season already on Saturday. I think every manager will say that's too many after just under a month.
Not having a pop Clampy but if they were working 15 hour shifts and didn't have every other day off, I'd have more sympathy for them. They are professional athletes. Pampered, overpaid wankers who lack ruthlessness. This comes from the management team.
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Just back from the game.
A strange game which never got going. We played at pre season practice pace. Burton Albion were not very good. In the first half both teams managed a shot each, sort of.
A full away end, with the usual infiltrators in the home sections were badly let down
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We may have played 8 games by Saturday Clampy but of that team who played tonight only Tuanzebe and Adomah have been regulars .So playing to many games in such a short period is no excuse for the manager
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/carabao-cup/11484573/burton-1-0-aston-villa)
Wow there is some comedy in there!
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Lose on Saturday which could easily happen as Sheffield have got into their stride and it will be an uncomfortable two weeks for SB I think.
Our results are getting more mediocre by the game.
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After so many years and so many managers serving up this crap, I am becoming inured to it.
I can honestly say I did not lose a heart beat on this result.
I said on a different thread, for the new owners this is year zero.
They have inherited Bruce.
Getting a back room structure in place C.E.O etc is probably their priority.
Meanwhile they support their investment by giving the incumbent support.
I would guess they are already sounding out opinions and options as to their longer term aspirations and alternatives
They bought Aston Villa along with its traditions and potential.
They may have to (along with us) tolerate Bruceball until they have a coherent plan in place
They seem the most professional of our previous owners so hold the faith, it will not last.
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Do we have to enter these competitions if the manager doesn’t want to play in them? Serious question.
You think half the clubs in the Premier League would enter if it was voluntary?
I really don’t know. I guess it’s part of the contract they have with the respective leagues.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/carabao-cup/11484573/burton-1-0-aston-villa)
Wow there is some comedy in there!
That some of that garbage was considered highlights shows just how much of a dog awful performance it was.
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Adomah needs a long break out of the team. I'm sick of his shit...
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I think the follow up was a worse miss than the original penalty.
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Genuinely one of the worst performances I've seen. Up there with Doncaster under DOL that was.
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Genuinely one of the worst performances I've seen. Up there with Doncaster under DOL that was.
I always used to hold that up as the apogee of embarrassing cup exits. Now I don't even remember it.
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Genuinely one of the worst performances I've seen. Up there with Doncaster under DOL that was.
I was there.
This was marginally worse.
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Grow a pair Bruce. It's your side, your signings, your 'tactics' and your fault. We deserve better than that and for you to blame the players is shirking the responsibility you have in one of the most prestigious jobs in the game. Enough.
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Doncaster remains the worst for me. When you look at the side we put out that night and we were still outplayed for the entire game and 3-0 flattered us.
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Need some of Ad's unwavering optimism. Looks like we're sleepwalking through a season of mediocrity and it's still fucking August.
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Need some of Ad's unwavering optimism. Looks like we're sleepwalking through a season of mediocrity and it's still fucking August.
And the optimism comes from it being August and who knows we might have a new manager before the damage is irreparable.
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According to Bruce... 'we were slow and pedantic, and painful at times'.
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Some highlights. The penalty was chuffing atrocious, I hate how professional players who train for hours every day are incapable of hitting a football hard and accurately from 12 yards. Pathetic, side-footed penalties piss me right off. Albert is well off the boil.
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Sky 'highlights' (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/carabao-cup/11484573/burton-1-0-aston-villa)
Wow there is some comedy in there!
That some of that garbage was considered highlights shows just how much of a dog awful performance it was.
Indeed. It must've been one of the most pathetic showings since The Promotion Specialist turned up at VP. I just wonder how much longer the owners will give him before showing him the door. Maybe they've got more money than sense?
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According to Bruce... 'we were slow and pedantic, and painful at times'.
No shit Stevie! So what the feck are YOU going to do about it?
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According to Bruce... 'we were slow and pedantic, and painful at times'.
No shit Stevie! So what the feck are YOU going to do about it?
The same that he has done for the last 2 seasons
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Just listened to the post match ..... we had no zip didn’t move the ball quickly enough how many times have we heard that this season? Why not work on it then Steve coach them make them work hard?
Oh yes but don’t forget we played our best game last week ..... we drew at home to Brentford Steve we didn’t win 4-0
He is like a hypnotist if we keeps saying it he hopes we will believe in it
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Surely he means 'pedestrian' not 'pedantic'. So clueless he's even playing words out of position.
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Well, we had no ‘zip’ and didn’t move the ball quickly on Saturday.
Between then and tonight he has done precisely fuck all to fix it.
He is having to come out with his usual post match bollox far too often.
I think he needs to go for his own sanity as well as ours.
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Well and truly under the bus....
Steve Bruce: Aston Villa showing made me feel 'physically sick'
Matt MaherLess than an hour ago
Liam Boyce's goal saw the League One Brewers through to the third round and a first ever competitive victory over Villa, for whom Albert Adomah missed a late penalty.
Bruce, visibly fuming, accused his much-changed team of treating the game "like a testimonial" and admitted several fringe players had blown their chance to impress.
"Sometimes you get a beat in a cup tie when it does not go your way," he said.
"But when you go about it like it is a testimonial or a friendly game then it upsets me to the hilt. Actually, it makes me feel physically sick.
"At this moment I have to take the rap, come and face the media. Ultimately it is my team.
"But it will be a shadow of the team which plays on Saturday (at Sheffield United). I would have thought the people who have been knocking down my door in recent weeks would have made a better fist of it than what I have just witnessed tonight."
Adomah saw an 89th minute penalty saved by Burton's debutant goalkeeper Harry Campbell, before hitting the rebound over the bar.
Villa's players were booed off by a large travelling support, who also directed their anger at Bruce.
He said: "The fans are entitled to criticise me. I have broad shoulders. I am the boss of that tonight.
"It is safe to say that was nowhere near good enough or acceptable. When you get knocked out of the cup, sometimes you can be unlucky.
"We didn't do anything at all. It has given me food for thought, for those people who keep knocking on my door, insisting they should be in the team.
"They have let me down, themselves and the supporters.
"We got what we deserved, which is absolutely nothing."
Winger Andre Green is, meanwhile, poised to join League One Portsmouth on loan until January.
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Disgusting, pathetic, shameful. Unwilling to move to fewer than four at the back when one down to a Third Division team who have spent most of their existence wondering how teams like Tamworth and Nuneaton are getting on.
I have been willing to give him every chance, but that's unforgiveable.
Bruce out.
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Surely he means 'pedestrian' not 'pedantic'. So clueless he's even playing words out of position.
Ha ha, thanks for that CB.
ps And your own correct example o' pedantry was certainly appreciated too. ;)
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What makes it so bad is that many of us would have predicted this -maybe not the result, but certainly the performance.
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His moaning about the number of games and his team selection make it obvious he doesn’t give a shit about this competition. Pretty sure his team talks were half arsed too. This attitude will of course be reflected in the teams performance. They would have been better off allowing the assistant manager to take sole charge of the cup games. Give Bruce a nice break and time to focus on the league 🤦♂️
Is there any other manager as blasé about cup games as Bruce? There is a break after Saturday anyway so why rest players? No other team who played tonight seemed to play as many second stringers as Villa. From what I gather about the penalty it could have looked as though Adomah intended to miss it! Steve probably congratulated him.
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Fuck off Bruce you stegosaurus
Made me chuckle.
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Well and truly under the bus....
Steve Bruce: Aston Villa showing made me feel 'physically sick'
Matt MaherLess than an hour ago
Liam Boyce's goal saw the League One Brewers through to the third round and a first ever competitive victory over Villa, for whom Albert Adomah missed a late penalty.
Bruce, visibly fuming, accused his much-changed team of treating the game "like a testimonial" and admitted several fringe players had blown their chance to impress.
"Sometimes you get a beat in a cup tie when it does not go your way," he said.
"But when you go about it like it is a testimonial or a friendly game then it upsets me to the hilt. Actually, it makes me feel physically sick.
"At this moment I have to take the rap, come and face the media. Ultimately it is my team.
"But it will be a shadow of the team which plays on Saturday (at Sheffield United). I would have thought the people who have been knocking down my door in recent weeks would have made a better fist of it than what I have just witnessed tonight."
Adomah saw an 89th minute penalty saved by Burton's debutant goalkeeper Harry Campbell, before hitting the rebound over the bar.
Villa's players were booed off by a large travelling support, who also directed their anger at Bruce.
He said: "The fans are entitled to criticise me. I have broad shoulders. I am the boss of that tonight.
"It is safe to say that was nowhere near good enough or acceptable. When you get knocked out of the cup, sometimes you can be unlucky.
"We didn't do anything at all. It has given me food for thought, for those people who keep knocking on my door, insisting they should be in the team.
"They have let me down, themselves and the supporters.
"We got what we deserved, which is absolutely nothing."
Winger Andre Green is, meanwhile, poised to join League One Portsmouth on loan until January.
Taylor , Hourihane, Elphick are 3 who think they should be in team.
RDL and Lansbury will be ones too not getting any game times.
It's hard as how much incentive is there as Bruce won't play them anyway I imagine and maybe the players think that .
Seems not able to motivate this bunch and it's far too sad to hear his comments which he is ultimately responsible for team.
I think some may respect him but didn't take him serious as it's sounding that it's another lethargic performance.
Before to resolve such an issue he wants to have younger, pacey players .
I can imainge Bruce has peeved off players and they go through the motions .
How was the play of Taylor and Elphick ?
Kept out of first team by players who aren't left back and centre backs ?
Also it's typical Bruce comment but having seen or heard nothing and recently seeing score this is disappointing but was anyone ever going to make 1st team unless they scored a hat trick.
Any positives ?
How was El Ghazi
Well played to all the supporters who went
And Bruce better get a game out of the ones he picks away to sheff utd.
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Shite.
We have no chance of success with Bruce. He is done.
He should have been shown the door after the Wembley debacle
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What makes it so bad is that many of us would have predicted this -maybe not the result, but certainly the performance.
He said similar things after the Yeovil game in the last round, but then fields another team with a lot of changes again. What did he expect?
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Nice guy or not, with more cowardly self righteous drivel like that I could really get to hate him.
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What makes it so bad is that many of us would have predicted this -maybe not the result, but certainly the performance.
He said similar things after the Yeovil game in the last round, but then fields another team with a lot of changes again. What did he expect?
Shite.
We have no chance of success with Bruce. He is done.
He should have been shown the door after the Wembley debacle
Was lack of money (and continuity) the reason he was kept on because in all honesty I with you on that he needed to leave after fail promotion
He needed to go and a respectful 'thank you and you tried , but not for us anymore.
Goodbye ' was needed
Several many of us people here ,and I don't think any are fortune tellers or speaking with hindsight have said it's just going to be more of the same from Bruce.
Taking such shoddy matches and then the Bruce interview comments just to me is aggravating be hearing his reasoning. so I can't help think what others who saw this and are regulars live watchers think.
That said those who watch from afar can even see far more clearly than Bruce and his ways.
I fear it's another season of him but hoping the attacking players will bring some encouragement and entertaining ways .
Sounds tonight was the opposite
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Well that's the League Cup for you. Bruceosaurus out.
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I don't buy into the nice guy charade. He is every bit as big a chancer as Sherwood and just as bad a bus chucked under. The nice guy and the outrage at the players is simply an act to play to his friends in the media and to, by whatever means it takes keep the money pouring into his bank account.
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Very poor. There was just no...anything. Saying it was flat would be talking it up.
Even Burton were oddly, flat and woeful. Like a sub-pre season.
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I don't buy into the nice guy charade. He is every bit as big a chancer as Sherwood and just as bad a bus chucked under. The nice guy and the outrage at the players is simply an act to play to his friends in the media and to, by whatever means it takes keep the money pouring into his bank account.
Agreed.
And, he played a squad that suggests he’s still pitching to bring another striker in.
In my view, he’s playing games with the investors.
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I do wonder if bruce is working his notice.
That has more than a ring of truth about it.
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The statement of intent talked about by the new owners should be to show Bruce the door before the weekend
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I don't buy into the nice guy charade. He is every bit as big a chancer as Sherwood and just as bad a bus chucked under. The nice guy and the outrage at the players is simply an act to play to his friends in the media and to, by whatever means it takes keep the money pouring into his bank account.
I wouldn't call someone with four promotions under his belt a chancer. As for the money, I doubt he needs it.
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I don't suppose for one minute that you would. One day I shall post something that does not elicit a contradiction from you.
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Sherwood was Machievelian in the way he stabbed AVB in the back to worm his way into the managers job, albeit he was cut loose.
I don't really see any similarities between him and Sherwood.
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Ipswich
Brentford
Reading
Burton
No disrespect to any of them, but we've got a squad that cost millions and a manager earning a fucking fortune and couldn't beat one of them. Abysmal. That man is a waste of time and space. Get rid.
Yep. Any villa fan who can look at that list and doesn't come to the conclusion that it's time he left our once illustrious club must be fkn mental. Imo.
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I don't suppose for one minute that you would. One day I shall post something that does not elicit a contradiction from you.
I'm disagreeing with a comment you made, I'm not contradicting you.
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I don't suppose for one minute that you would. One day I shall post something that does not elicit a contradiction from you.
I'm disagreeing with a comment you made, I'm not contradicting you.
Very good
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To be honest who cares it was very much a reserve team out there and we ain't winning this competition any time soon. Sorry for the fans who went obviously but everyone knew the team he'd put out - similar to Peterborough and look what happened after that game.
I've said previously on h&v that it looks for all the world like he's actually trying to get fired. Think about it. If they fire him he gets a big payout. If he walks he gets nowt.
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To be honest who cares it was very much a reserve team out there and we ain't winning this competition any time soon. Sorry for the fans who went obviously but everyone knew the team he'd put out - similar to Peterborough and look what happened after that game.
I'm not concerned at going out of the cup as we need to concentrate on the league. I am concerned that we lost to Burton with a side that whilst not being our strongest eleven had eighteen players on the team sheet who all stand a decent chance of being on the team sheet again at the weekend. Eight or nine of the twelve players who played last night will play a lot of games for us this season.
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If Bruce saying it was like a pre season performance but then we beat Burton 4-0 Kodjia, Adomah, De Laet, Gardner scored then a month later we lose?!!
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It was a strange game. Around 2000 Villa fans filling the away end, and a few home areas, 1400 home fans. There was no sense of occasion . Both sides fielded changed teams, but seven of Villa’s starters were Bruce buys. We had more than enough to beat them.
Burton are not very good. They will struggle to stay up. Their natural status is National League worst, League One best, League two normally. Villa made them look like Real Madrid. I have never seen a more anodyne first half for a competitive football match. It was like a practice match. There were few tackles, and only one shot each in the first half. The fans watched as silently as if they were at a funeral service. Nigel Clough is no master tactition, yet their tactic of holding on to the ball, and edging forwards at a snail’s pace was too much for Villa, who matched them pass for pass. It was a game which suited slow thinkers and slow feet. Two Burton players went off injured in the first half. If substitutions had not been made, no-one would have noticed.
Burton’s goal came out of nowhere. Most of the crowd missed it as they were either asleep or on their smart phones. Even being behind did not bother Villa who stuck resolutely to their game plan of doing very little. Bruce stood on the touchline motionless, the players responded like for like.
In the 87th minute Villa were awarded a penalty when a rare shot was saved by a Burton outfield player with his hands, Adomah could not be bothered to score.
At the close, the Burton faithful thought they should celebrate a little, but it was a bit like three cheers at your gran’s 90th Birthday party. The Villa fans did not even moan or protest, a few boos, no “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” chants, no “Bruce out” cries. Just supine acceptance.
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shit faced wizard cnut ought to be sacked now. Total clusterfuck.
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Thanks for the review Garyfouroaks - I can't help being interested in (and saddened by) the League cup. Some of my very fondest Villa memories were in this competition... I'm sure many others here feel the same.
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Surely he means 'pedestrian' not 'pedantic'. So clueless he's even playing words out of position.
Stop the forum, that's post of the year for me, there will be nothing funnier.
*applause*
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There were a few positives for me. I visited a couple of nice pubs. I was also pleased by the Sight of the DON AMOTT KING OF CARAVANS advertising hoarding at the back of the home end. And my train ticket wasn't inspected so I can probably get away with using it again on Saturday for that portion of the journey to Sheffield.
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There were a few positives for me. I visited a couple of nice pubs. I was also pleased by the Sight of the DON AMOTT KING OF CARAVANS advertising hoarding at the back of the home end. And my train ticket wasn't inspected so I can probably get away with using it again on Saturday for that portion of the journey to Sheffield.
Don Amott! That brings back memories of watching Star Soccer on a Sunday when I lived in Nuneaton. I can still hear the jingle of the Don Amott King of Caravans advert at half time. Also “DFS gives a bigger choice , yes , yes ! Now with stores in Nuneaton, Measham, Oadby and Darley Dale” Those were the days, with the Boro riding high in the Southern League and my hero/ namesake starring between the sticks (he needed to , the defence was as dodgy as ours , but a lot more brutal.) Happy days, now sadly in the distant past. Nurse ! More pills please and when is Countdown on ...?
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I do like the way he has eased the recognised and highly thought of CB in Tuanzabee firstly by playing him at RB most of the season, at CB in the last Cup game and last night as a holding midfielder
WTF did Bruce say to him to get him to join for a year?
I must admit when you listen to the garbage he comes out with he does look like a man courting the sack deliberately
I hope we give him his wish
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Disappointed by the result but as long as we go all out for promotion now is all that I ask for and if we go up then happy days.
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Had the same feeling I tend to have at any of these early round games. I'm not bothered, why am I here? What's the the point and the players invaiarbly feel the same.
Last night's performance stretched that theme to new extremes though.
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I have no issue going out of the cartoon cup - what bothers me is our quite expensive reserves getting turned over by Burton's reserves who were bought for less than a packet of Findus fish fingers. Especially as most of them were bought by Bruce.
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I don't suppose for one minute that you would. One day I shall post something that does not elicit a contradiction from you.
I'm disagreeing with a comment you made, I'm not contradicting you.
Very good
I came for an argument, no you didn’t.
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The only conclusion you can draw from the Performance and team selection is Bruce don’t give a shit.
Maybe he has worked out that he is on borrowed time and is just hanging around for his final pay day.
The only other explanation is that he is an incompetent idiot.
Either way he should be no where near managing Aston Villa.
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The only conclusion you can draw from the Performance and team selection is Bruce don’t give a shit.
Maybe he has worked out that he is on borrowed time and is just hanging around for his final pay day.
The only other explanation is that he is an incompetent idiot.
Either way he should be no where near managing Aston Villa.
I'd go with line 3
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The only conclusion you can draw from the Performance and team selection is Bruce don’t give a shit.
Maybe he has worked out that he is on borrowed time and is just hanging around for his final pay day.
The only other explanation is that he is an incompetent idiot.
Either way he should be no where near managing Aston Villa.
I'd go with line 3
Don’t be ridiculous, it was the players fault.
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Surely he means 'pedestrian' not 'pedantic'. So clueless he's even playing words out of position.
Stop the forum, that's post of the year for me, there will be nothing funnier.
*applause*
I conker sir , woops
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Surely he means 'pedestrian' not 'pedantic'. So clueless he's even playing words out of position.
Stop the forum, that's post of the year for me, there will be nothing funnier
*applause*
I conker sir , woops
Agreed, can’t be beaten !
If playing words out of position is a criterion, perhaps we should put our very own Footyskillz forward for the job. He makes a lot more sense about football than many managers and certainly a lot more than Bruce . Footy’s prescottian syntax would make for great after match interviews. How about it Footy?
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Rewind a few years and I would of been well pissed off we lost. Last night though I have to confess it just did not bother me. I think my expectations have been lowered to a level where I can't even get annoyed anymore.
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I was. Happy to give the benefit of the doubt at the beginning of the season when we were winning. Because ultimately that's the thing we should be measured on.
However, I've got a ticket for Saturday and know full well we will be trying to achieve a draw.
I'm not feeling confident at all.
I think Bruce has just reinforced to those picked every fucking week that they will continue to be picked every fucking week.
It's like the army sending new recruits into battle without a plan, without any tanks, and no bullets. Then blaming them when the resultant massacre happens.
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Massacre?
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I'm with Drummond. This always comes to mind when Bruce and tactics are mentioned.
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For me it is very simple: Bruce used the game as a practice match to try out a few training ideas. I take that as a big insult to not only Villains but anyone who turned up for the game.
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I'm with Drummond. This always comes to mind when Bruce and tactics are mentioned.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
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For me it is very simple: Bruce used the game as a practice match to try out a few training ideas. I take that as a big insult to not only Villains but anyone who turned up for the game.
I think that would have been a sensible idea but you have to have an intensity so that it doesn't have the feel of a practice match,otherwise you learn nothing from the edperiments and it becomes an insult to fans.Incidentally,after the initial 10 minutes,I felt the first half of the Reading game drifted into that lackadaisical approach of a friendly game.