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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on April 10, 2018, 09:43:05 PM
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We made really hard work of that. Still moment of quality from Jack and we have an unlikely win.
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Fuck off Colin.
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In the spirit of the match thread, take that.
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Pick that one out! Great result
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Not over til it's over.
POSITIVITY
UTV
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Surprising but needed that.
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Brilliant goal. Brilliant goalkeeping. That's about it, but that's all it needs to be right now.
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If only we hadn't shit the bed against any of Bolton, Norwich or QPR.
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Did not believe, it happened, great.
Momentum for the play offs.
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We are the Dreads
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Awful first half, better second but was still poor at times. Jedi and Johnstone very good. Play-offs all but wrapped up.
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Brilliant goal. Brilliant goalkeeping. That's about it, but that's all it needs to be right now.
’nuff said. Well summarised.
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I'll drink wine to that!
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Different gravy when Kod came on and Grabban looked good when he went to mid.
Very pleased with our intensity in the second half: no sign of legs
Back to looking forward to the next game.
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I couldn't fault much of what I saw... But then, I don't mind Ocean Colour Scene so what do I know? UTV!
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I thought our second half performance was better.
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Deelite
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Great result, we need a minor miracle but there's still a few games left so WE GO AGAIN
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Somehow we are 5 points off second with 4 games to go. So while unlikely it feels closer and better than it should given our recent run. Also shows just how much we’ve fucked up the great opportunity we had for an automatic spot these past few weeks.
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Can somebody make sure Whelan never plays again for Villa?
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Ooooh!
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We are the Dreads
We are the mods, we are the mods, we are, we are, we are the mods.
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That feels gooooooood !
Johnstone outstanding.
Ref awful.
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Can somebody make sure Whelan never plays again for Villa?
Yeah he was abysmal.
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Still very much an outside chance for making it obviously, but that was about pride as well as showing we'd be a threat in the play-offs. Of course it was pretty hard work, but we have a guy with something that almost no-one else in the division has.
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Superb goal.
Nice 3 points.
Just such a shame.
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Great strike from Jack, we rode our luck at times but chuffed with the win.
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We need to start getting some momentum for the play-offs now.
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Beaten wolves and cardiff now. Pleased for Jack, it's nice to see their fouling came to nothing.
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Might suit us to be the rank outsiders for it (second).
We've shown that when we actually have the spotlight on us and are expected to close the deal, we piss the bed.
Let Fulham and Cardiff take the burden, whilst we come up to nick it on the final day.
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Oh fuckin hell arre. What walkers though turn up when they want to.
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Grind out a result like that and it makes some of our other recent results even more frustrating.
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Fantastic result. We need to stay 4th now because 3rd place never go up in the playoffs I'm told. We also have the psychological advantage over Cardiff.
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Didily didily
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That was goal of the year in the whole wide world! ;) :D
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Might suit us to be the rank outsiders for it (second).
We've shown that when we actually have the spotlight on us and are expected to close the deal, we piss the bed.
Let Fulham and Cardiff take the burden, whilst we come up to nick it on the final day.
You could have a point there. Fulham's run has taken them to where they were aiming for (and genuine fair fucks to them for it) but staying there requires a different mentality. Cardiff seem to have done everything but seal the deal. That'll take it out of them.
It's obviously massively unlikely, but it's not impossible.
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Didily didily
No, apparemtly it's dilly dilly.
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Didn't see that coming at half time.
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Up on the downside
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Cracking goal, that got my beetle on its back celebration. Created much more second half, hopefully we can put a little run together and hope Fulham finally lose a few, all changes so quickly in this league.
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Would be very Villa to win the next four and agonisingly miss out.
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He's got a foot like a traction engine (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11325732/grealishs-glorious-volley)
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11325792/aston-villa-1-0-cardiff)
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Warnock "Villa thought they had won the world cup".
What a dick.
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Great to see JK back (we need him). Great tackle by Chester on Bennet in the box. Great goal keeping from SJ. 2 great defence splitting balls from Grabban to Conor and Whelan. Wonderful goal!!
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Far better by players in giving it a go. And that wonder goal was superb by Grealish absolute superb. Good to see a tempo and only wish that performance was against Norwich.
Gives hope if play off villa can certainly raise game.
SJ salute you great save
And well played super jack.
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Celebrating as if we’d secured second at the end, when we blew any chance of automatic promotion by losing to 3 bottom half teams in the last 4 weeks.
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Yes, I hate it when people celebrate.
Scum.
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Can somebody make sure Whelan never plays again for Villa?
thought he battled well for us :o limited player but put in a decent shift
Very fortunate win but a few times this season, Snodgrass v Sheff Utd comes to mind, our top players have pulled big wins out of the bag
Absolute quality from Grealish, brilliant back heel for Hourihane's shot too
Kodjia was very impressive when he came on and transformed our attacking play, compare that to Hogan v Norwich :o
Grabban super pass for Hourihane's miss, much better on left
AA was anonymous again and deservedly subbed, Snodgrass loads of set pieces and crosses but looked a bit heavy legged tonight, needs to be left on bench Friday
Johnstone couple of unbelievable saves
we wont get away with that back four too again mind, hard to be too critical with 2 x makeshift left backs and Jedi at left centre back.
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Warnock "Villa thought they had won the world cup".
What a dick.
He mad. 8)
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One approves
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22 wins from 42 league games. Thats the most we've managed in my time as a supporter. Even the Taylor and Atkinson sides only managed 21 in their respective runners-up seasons. Happy times but it still could have been so much better. Looking forward to seeing the goal - only just got in from work.
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Much jubilation from HRH Royal Highness John Carew and some mate of his on the left.
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Post-match interview (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11325830/bruce-delighted-with-villa-response)
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As much of me thinks we are going to fuck this up as we are going getting a jammy win the playoff finals
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As much of me thinks we are going to fuck this up as we are going getting a jammy win the playoff finals
Don't worry Toronto. We are Aston Villa. We'll do our best to fuck it up.
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What a fantastic photo, that's the VILLA.
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A much needed win,poor first half and lucky to go in level. Second half a lot better and kodija coming off the bench made a big difference to us. They really are a horrible team.
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Jack knew it was in when it left his boot.
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Colin Wanker (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11325853/warnock-we-should-have-won)
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What a goal.
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Colin Wanker really is a wanker isn't he.
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Colin Wanker (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11325853/warnock-we-should-have-won)
What planet is that snidey c*** on.
They're a disgusting side. I've seen them the past 180 odd minutes and they haven't played an ounce of football.
Poor first half, Johnstone two good saves. Two poor sides in fact. Second half it was all us and we ought to have stuck a few more in when Kodjia came on.
Not great but easily better than that shower of snidey wankers.
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Colin Wanker (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11325853/warnock-we-should-have-won)
Didn't bother watchong.
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Fantastic goal by Jack as soon as he hit it I knew it was in. So frustrating the recent results just one win and we’d be in with a chance. As for Warnock you get everything your anti football deserves, absolutely nothing.
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What a fantastic photo, that's the VILLA.
Is the Prince now off with JC to see some of the dancing ladies of Bham?
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Love this.
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Much jubilation from HRH Royal Highness John Carew and some mate of his on the left.
Carew just suggesting to HRH that they celebrate in a few "clubs" that he used to frequent in Brum.
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Link to goal for us foreign types that can’t see the Sky highlights
Up yours Colin says Jack (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6hm054)
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Colin wanker says they should have won. They didn't score and we scored one so what''s his argument. I thought games were decided on goals scored.
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Much jubilation from HRH Royal Highness John Carew and some mate of his on the left.
Carew just suggesting to HRH that they celebrate in a few "clubs" that he used to frequent in Brum.
What’s Trevor Francis doing there?
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Well after watching that I can see why everyone hates Cardiff.
Yeah they could've scored before half time but such a lack of quality from them in general play particularly as we were nowhere near full strength at the back.
Couldn't really work out why they were playing for a point second half when Fulham were winning. Would relish playing them in the play offs.
Anyway we were so so but the decent moves came from us.
Kodj was excellent when he came on, really stretched the play and got Bamba all over the pitch and created space for Jack and Snodgrass.
Grabban had a hit and miss night but I wonder if we could play both together particularly as Adomah has lost a bit of form recently.
Good win but I just can't help thinking of all the dropped points post Wolves. I knew looking at the fixture list Cardiff had potential to start dropping a lot of points over a couple of weeks and it's happening.
Fair play to Fulham, they've kept on winning and I reckon they'll nick second now (hopefully not before the final day though!)
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Great goal by Jack----full credit to the lad he just laps up the trips kicks pushes and pulls,--
some fantastic saves by Sam Johnstone keeping a clean sheet,
thought we looked much better when J.K.came on and Grabban moved to midfield sliding through a couple of real defence splitting balls shame Hourihane could,nt bury his chance.
Good to see Prince William donning a Claret and Blue scarfe and celebrating together with John Carew Carew,
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What a fantastic photo, that's the VILLA.
Is the Prince now off with JC to see some of the dancing ladies of Bham?
Legs X1?
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Kodj was the difference he held the ball up well and his pace frightened them, they are the dirtiest side I've watched this season, the ref was far to lenient. Thought Grabban was much better when Kodj came on but in the latter stages he was too greedy when Villa had players open.
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In fairness that’s a magnificent clenched fist from the future King.
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Colin Wanker really is a wanker isn't he.
Generally yes, but not tonight. He gave credit to our goalkeeper for his saves, gave credit to Grealish for scoring "a worldy" and actually said he had "no complaints". By his standards that is a major charm offensive.
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William, Grealish, Jedinak, Kodjia. I salute you all. Great result, bit of a stodgy performance but I think we shaded it. Had the referee played on when Kodjia was being wrestled on the halfway line, I'm sure we'd have put the game to bed. Oh, and Colin, the game is not won on chances, it's won on goals scored. Well done Bruce for positive changes made.
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Colin Wanker really is a wanker isn't he.
Generally yes, but not tonight. He gave credit to our goalkeeper for his saves, gave credit to Grealish for scoring "a worldy" and actually said he had "no complaints". By his standards that is a major charm offensive.
Maybe not in the post match interview, but his antics on the sideline throughout the game were in that bracket. One of the dirtiest and most cynical sides I have seen, especially the number of fouls they committed off the ball (pulling back and blocking players trying to get up in support of play in particular). I thought we stood up well to it though and thought Jedinak did well at the back tonight. Still patchy for large parts of the game and I think Adomah, Snodgrass and Hourihane could do with a break from the side. Grealish's goal was special and a fitting way to win a match.
As long as we could negotiate the away leg OK, I wouldn't have too many qualms about facing them in the play offs to be honest.
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On that showing, if Cardiff slip up, you'd have to fancy our chances against them in the playoff final compared with Fulham who I think are the second best side in the Division. Johnny Kodge is looking sharper every game and a Wembley final is just made for him to score the winner. But knowing us we will probably balls it up against a poor Leeds on Friday and be back to square one.
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Humble pie for supper for me. When I saw that line-up with Jedi at the back and Whelan in midfield I thought we'd get turned over well and proper. Glad to be wrong. Even now I'm not sure what our formation was - some sort of three at the back, one up front, and six at various places in the middle, but whatever it was Bruce will probably use it again on Friday. Some great saves by Johnstone to keep us in it, and a worldy by Jack to get the points, which we fully deserved on that second half performance. Even the unannounced closure of the M5 slip road with no diversions signed, meaning a mystery tour via Wednesbury and West Brom couldn't spoil the evening. Wasn't that impressed with Cardiff - typical Colin team with time wasting, feigned injuries, endless cynical fouls, long throw-ins, the manager constantly in the 4th official's ear, and doubtless sour grapes afterwards.
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And Milwall are in worryingly good form ....
But, hey, on our day we can beat anyone in this division
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Colin Wanker can eat my shit.
Whoever made that anagram up is a genius.
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Watching that ( and them against Wolves ) it hard to see how Cardiff got to 2nd.
Better from us in general , great saves when they did put the pressure on and a worldy from Jack
AA needs to be dropped , has been great for us this season but he has tailed off badly of late and some time out to refresh for the play offs looks needed.Looked better when Kodjia came on as he can run into the channels for balls into space and has pace and skill to keep it until others get near.Neither Grabben or especially Hogan can do this.
Was Terry injured or rested ?
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Injured
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Colin Wanker can eat my shit.
Whoever made that anagram up is a genius.
His Mom probably .
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The only honest thing he said in the interview was at the end "we kick on". Well that seemed to be the enitre game plan tonight. How did that bunch of time wasting, snidey tossers get to 2nd.
Ref should have made a stand and sent one of them off after the 3rd yellow - i lost count in the end but im sure they all got a yellow apart from their keeper (unbelieveably).
On a positive we note we looked miles better when Kodj came on - AA has needed a rest for a few weeks now and if we can go back to a proper back 4 on Friday (hows Hutton getting on?) then i think we're due a good run in.
Dont think we'll get automatic but you never know.....
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Great match up with Kodja and Bamba in second half. He looks a good defender and unlike most of there team wasn’t trying to feign injury and waste time.
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At HT I thought we were lucky to be in it after the two Whelan efforts. Bamba was dominating Grabbon and we were chasing around pointlessly. The big difference was Kodjia coming on. He had class to disrupt Bamba and their defence fell apart. It was just a matter of time before we would score and score we did how sweet was that? Sitting in North centre I felt it was going in as soon as Jack hit it. A bit like Savo at Wembley. We should have scored 2 or 3 more but wasted very good opportunities.
Shame it's all a bit too late.
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Colin Wanker (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11325853/warnock-we-should-have-won)
What match was he watching? Only one team in it in the second half.
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Grealish worked tirelessly to shake off Gunnarsson's all night man marking and deserved that amazing goal.
Until Kodjia came on it was food and drink for Bamba and Morrison and his movement and skill really gave them something to think about and we earned the win.
I thought Cardiff were one of the best teams we played early in the season, but admittedly we were poor that day and they didn't have to resort to long ball muscular tactics. However, tonight they were at their route one spoiling tactics from the off: Morrison taking all throw ins in their half, wasting time and stealing 10 yards each time and Gunnarsson sending in the spinny long throws into the area that are designed to skew off her head for the second ball. They flood the wing areas with the 2 pacy players for the knock ons and clearances but I thought Jedinak and Chester generally read the tactic really well.
If only we'd got another 4 points or so from those games after Wolves...
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Warnock "Villa thought they had won the world cup".
What a dick.
It's getting to him isn't it? He's trying to pretend it isn't but he can't hide it.
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I've said before I don't mind Warnock but his side don't half play prehistoric football. I criticise SB for lack of imagination but at least we do string together a couple of decent moves a game, Cardiff didn't even bother to do that.
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Still very much an outside chance for making it obviously, but that was about pride as well as showing we'd be a threat in the play-offs. Of course it was pretty hard work, but we have a guy with something that almost no-one else in the division has.
I think it was important to show Cardiff if they miss out on second they're going to have to work blooming hard to go up via the play offs with us in them.
I really think they'd struggle to get up for them given the lead they've had in second. Playing Cardiff in the final would be very good news for us I reckon although of course we have to win our tie and it could quite easily be Millwall.
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Can somebody make sure Whelan never plays again for Villa?
lol as kidz wud sez. Wanker spoke about two very good chances his team had before HT. Idiot obviously forgot to mention those "chances" were Whelan efforts not his team's.
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Warnock was right. They should have been out of sight at half time. But who cares? A great night under the floodlights, a magnificent winner and 3 points.
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Who got injured in the warm up btw?
Pretty sure Whelan wasn't supposed to be starting? Was Bree named as a sub? If he wasnt he did very well for a last minute call up when he came on.
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Who got injured in the warm up btw?
Pretty sure Whelan wasn't supposed to be starting? Was Bree named as a sub? If he wasnt he did very well for a last minute call up when he came on.
Thor.
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Thought Bree second half especially was very good.
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Can somebody make sure Whelan never plays again for Villa?
lol as kidz wud sez. Wanker spoke about two very good chances his team had before HT. Idiot obviously forgot to mention those "chances" were Whelan efforts not his team's.
Just watched the highlights and Johnstone's save off Whelan's glanced header looks even better than it did at the game.
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Who got injured in the warm up btw?
Pretty sure Whelan wasn't supposed to be starting? Was Bree named as a sub? If he wasnt he did very well for a last minute call up when he came on.
Thor.
Ah cheers. Was in the Upper Witton so actually thought he was coming on to play LB when Axel went off.
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I saw this on ESPN's headlines with the caption: "Grealish winner gets royal seal of approval", and thought: Oh dang, John Carew! He's considered football royalty now?"
(http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2018%2F0410%2Fr354597_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg&w=570)
Yeah, color me american.
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Can somebody make sure Whelan never plays again for Villa?
I thought he played really well apart from nearly scoring 2 own goals.
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I saw this on ESPN's headlines with the caption: "Grealish winner gets royal seal of approval", and thought: Oh dang, John Carew! He's considered football royalty now?"
(http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2018%2F0410%2Fr354597_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg&w=570)
Yeah, color me american.
I'll say it again, I love this.
How come he was there tonight? Any reason or did he just want to get behind his team?
I like William.
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One does not choose, one is chosen.
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I saw this on ESPN's headlines with the caption: "Grealish winner gets royal seal of approval", and thought: Oh dang, John Carew! He's considered football royalty now?"
(http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2018%2F0410%2Fr354597_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg&w=570)
Yeah, color me american.
I'll say it again, I love this.
How come he was there tonight? Any reason or did he just want to get behind his team?
I like William.
Because when Big John requests your prescence, it doesn't matter who you are, even the future king of England, you do as you're told.
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Only skipped through the thread but:
It could have ended up anything up to and including 5-5. Some brilliant goalkeeping from Johnstone and some ropey shooting from us in good positions.
Jedinak was fucking majestic and Jack had them on the back foot time and time again, when we bought Kodja on the performance going forward should brighten any Villa fans heart as we looked a threat all the time.
Fair play to Cardiff, they compete hard for every ball and made it very difficult for us, there is nothing at all complicated about them but they caused us massive problems all night and could easily have run out winners
The result might not have mattered that much to us but matching them for heart and bollix just might come the play offs.
UTV
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Exactly. :)
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Great win - am I the only one thinking we're better at the pressure games than the mid table run of the mill ones?
Isn't Warnock doing an amateur pantomime villain act to make himself some kind of hate/media troll figure to take the pressure off the team who are efficient, physical but ultimately workmanlike?
Apart from Fulham I'd fancy us against anyone in the playoffs even with our recent inconsistent run.
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I reckon me and Fingers of this parish will be on a few thousand fans pics of HRH and Billy boy
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Great win - am I the only one thinking we're better at the pressure games than the mid table run of the mill ones?
Isn't Warnock doing an amateur pantomime villain act to make himself some kind of hate/media troll figure to take the pressure off the team who are efficient, physical but ultimately workmanlike?
Apart from Fulham I'd fancy us against anyone in the playoffs even with our recent inconsistent run.
Yes we seem to respond when VP isn't half dead as it tends to be for the low key midweek games like QPR.
I think that's why it's important we get the second leg at VP. Get a draw away and then we'd hopefully respond to a rocking VP and finish the job.
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What a bloody horrible team Cardiff are to watch. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team take long throws ins in line with their own penalty area before but they did it all match. Dreadful stuff.
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Not the size of crowd we were expecting but a good atmosphere I thought, get on the front foot, put in 100% effort and VP will get right behind you.
Other thing was that pass from Grabban to Houlihane was Sid like, the disguise on it was incredible. Absolute top notch, just as much as Jacks goal. Nearly.
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Time for Grabben to start in front of Adomah and Kodjia to start up front.
Bree did well and ought to retain his place. BB for Whelan though if he's fit and Hourihane continues to be a problem.
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I wasn’t impressed with Bree, or Axel when he was on.
Agree about Houirihane though, if only Onohah could show some of his earlier form we’d be well set.
I though Whelan was adequate.
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As much of me thinks we are going to fuck this up as we are going getting a jammy win the playoff finals
I've been saying it for some time, it's great to once in while have a lucky manager. It's long overdue.
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Whelan did his best (twice) to score an own goal in the first half - a wild swing and slice of the ball that hit Elmohamady on the line, then a 'header' that Sam saved superbly! What happened to Thor??
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Rode our luck but the improved 2nd half with Kodja involved proved we had much more to offer. Jack yet again head and shoulders above anything else on the park. Cardiff are dull but good at dull and effective. Stoke in disguise in fact.
Drop Hourihane for whoever for the remaining games and play Kodja with Grabban up top has to be the way forward.
I thought Bree was okayish. Johnson, his kicking apart, excellent.
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Whelan did his best (twice) to score an own goal in the first half - a wild swing and slice of the ball that hit Elmohamady on the line, then a 'header' that Sam saved superbly! What happened to Thor??
Pulled up on the way to the start line.
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Only skipped through the thread but:
It could have ended up anything up to and including 5-5. Some brilliant goalkeeping from Johnstone and some ropey shooting from us in good positions.
Jedinak was fucking majestic and Jack had them on the back foot time and time again, when we bought Kodja on the performance going forward should brighten any Villa fans heart as we looked a threat all the time.
Fair play to Cardiff, they compete hard for every ball and made it very difficult for us, there is nothing at all complicated about them but they caused us massive problems all night and could easily have run out winners
The result might not have mattered that much to us but matching them for heart and bollix just might come the play offs.
UTV
Agree with all of that PROVIDING we build on it.
Let's finish the season with aplomb.
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I thought it was a poor game to be honest - Johnstone was man of the match - without him we could have been 3 down before we scored
Jedinak - did okay - as long as he can only head the ball, his passing is woeful!
Draw would have been a fair result.
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Bree, Jedi, Grabban and Kodjia were very good in the second half. I also thought Elmo did okay too.
Great goal!
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I disagree. We deserved to win. They had a cluster of chances but they offered absolutely nothing and didn't attempt to play the game of football.
They're an abomination and they deserved fuck all and rightfully got fuck all out the game.
The referee was an absolute joke as well. How that ****** weasel Bennett wasn't booked for a snidey late one on Grealish I don't know, while the rugby tackle off the ball with Kodjia was shocking.
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Oh Warnock, you’ll be missed when you pack it in. The artful body checking, perfectly executed time wasting, highly organised arguing with the officials and the glorious long throw ins. Best I’ve seen since the glory days of Wimbledon.
Just can’t imagine how you haven’t been successful in the Premier League, it’s a mystery isn’t it?
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How the fuck are Cardiff allowed to get away with that throw in malarkey, taking an age to walk a few yards up the pitch with a ball up your shirt, drying it and generally frigging about.
Do refs give them longer to take a throw in because they ‘need to dry the ball?’.
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I went more in hope than expectation and we won. The season of 'if only' to end all seasons of if only's.
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How the fuck are Cardiff allowed to get away with that throw in malarkey, taking an age to walk a few yards up the pitch with a ball up your shirt, drying it and generally frigging about.
Do refs give them longer to take a throw in because they ‘need to dry the ball?’.
Rory Delap used to do the same when he was at Stoke.
Enjoyed last night. Hard fought game, we rode our luck a bit at times and an absolute belter won it for us.
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Cardiff play to their strengths - direct, pace out wide and physical - which we struggled with first half and was compounded by us playing long balls out from the back. Johnson's distribution in particular was questionable to say the least.
Second half we were by far the better team as we went shorter on passing and hit low balls to the forwards.
Cardiff fans and Colin seem a good match for each other - a total set of Warnocks, but there are many times this season (eg QPR at home) when we could have done with some of their players attributes.
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Unsurprisingly, Warnock doesn't respond to the name 'Colin' despite how may times my mate yelled at him last night from well within earshot
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Jack's goal aside, the best thing about yesterday was the two through balls from Grabban. We go years without seeing Villa play a single through ball and two come along in one game.
Imagine Kodj or even Hogan being on the end of them and that for me means from now on I'd play Grabban as the wide left forward over Albert and Kodj if fit up front.
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Great 3 points! Wonder goal from Jack! Brilliant from Carew in the royal box! UTV! DLBIA!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dac1_xQX4AEQvVe.jpg)
Much jubilation from HRH Royal Highness John Carew and some mate of his on the left.
Who is on the left?
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What a bloody horrible team Cardiff are to watch. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team take long throws ins in line with their own penalty area before but they did it all match. Dreadful stuff.
Bet they found their players with a greater accuracy than our goalies clearances generally do.
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Great match up with Kodja and Bamba in second half. He looks a good defender and unlike most of there team wasn’t trying to feign injury and waste time.
Yes, I liked Bamba. Think he will go on to play a higher level. Seems a decent sort too.
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One approves
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dac1_xQX4AEQvVe.jpg)
Much jubilation from HRH Royal Highness John Carew and some mate of his on the left.
Who is on the left?
Hair to the throne. Not sure about the one on the right, maybe one of them secret service agents, doesn't look like he's too concerned about JC and an 8 year old though.
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Over the moon with the win beating Warnock's type of football which is at best horrible to watch what a goal by Jack brilliant and I would say Sam was my motm he pulled off some stupendous saves last night I really hope we sign him permanently in the summer.
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Oh Warnock, you’ll be missed when you pack it in. The artful body checking, perfectly executed time wasting, highly organised arguing with the officials and the glorious long throw ins. Best I’ve seen since the glory days of Wimbledon.
Just can’t imagine how you haven’t been successful in the Premier League, it’s a mystery isn’t it?
I also compared them to Wimbledon.Warnock's antics and his team's methods are a disgrace.Rugby tackle,chop down anyone who gets clear of the midfield.Disrupt any football being played.Aided and abetted by an awful referee and a linesman who allowed Bennett to constantly grab hold of Snodgrass.The result for me was more satisfying than the one v SHA.
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A bit surprised about the praise for Bree, he looked very shaky, missed some simple clearances and gave the ball away far too much.
I appreciate he was a late call up and out of position, so I wouldn’t hold the performance against him, but I’ll be glad when Hutton is back
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he matured in the second half but I agree he crumbled on occasions early doors
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I can see last night being a dress rehearsal for Wembley, so that could give us the edge psychologically, plus having Terry and Hutton back will provide more physical strength which is crucial against these.
Oh and Grabban’s through ball to Connor was Iniesta-esque!
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he matured in the second half but I agree he crumbled on occasions early doors
I thought he looked soft
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I can see last night being a dress rehearsal for Wembley, so that could give us the edge psychologically, plus having Terry and Hutton back will provide more physical strength which is crucial against these.
Oh and Grabban’s through ball to Connor was Iniesta-esque!
Kodjia is looking like the man to me.
And I’m still getting over that Grabban pass.
Cowansesque!
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Does anyone know why Bjarnason was withdrawn from the starting XI?
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I wasn’t impressed with Bree, or Axel when he was on.
Agree about Houirihane though, if only Onohah could show some of his earlier form we’d be well set.
I though Whelan was adequate.
Bree wasn't orginally in the squad so in the circumstances I think he did fine.
Whelan did his best but wouldn't want him against a quick paced central midfield, no one in the Cardiff middle could actually run which helped.
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How the fuck are Cardiff allowed to get away with that throw in malarkey, taking an age to walk a few yards up the pitch with a ball up your shirt, drying it and generally frigging about.
Do refs give them longer to take a throw in because they ‘need to dry the ball?’.
Three minutes added on at end of the first half was the answer.
They were just constantly trying to waste time which threw me as Fulham were winning from early on.
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I would like to see Grealish play just behind Kodj and Grabban who both have pace. That piece of magic is why we need him closer to goal.
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Great match up with Kodja and Bamba in second half. He looks a good defender and unlike most of there team wasn’t trying to feign injury and waste time.
Yes, I liked Bamba. Think he will go on to play a higher level. Seems a decent sort too.
He is 33 now
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I would like to see Grealish play just behind Kodj and Grabban who both have pace. That piece of magic is why we need him closer to goal.
Said that after the Norwich game, I think our first choice front pair should be Kodjia and Grealish with Davis and either Hogan or Grabban as back up.
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Does anyone know why Bjarnason was withdrawn from the starting XI?
I did see him sit on the ground for a while during the warm-up, which in hindsight was a bit unsual
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I would like to see Grealish play just behind Kodj and Grabban who both have pace. That piece of magic is why we need him closer to goal.
Said that after the Norwich game, I think our first choice front pair should be Kodjia and Grealish with Davis and either Hogan or Grabban as back up.
I think that Grabban is an option out wide instead of the out of form Albert and could switch places with a central Kod in order to confuse defences.
Grabban played a superb ball through for Hourihane's chance and also covered back well late in the game.
Kod seems more willing to pass now, which is good.
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It was a decent performance, I thought. Our defence looked more solid than it has been for weeks, despite (or because of?) the forced changes. We are still vulnerable to pace, but without Axel and Alan, I don't know what we can do about that. Once we'd figured out how to keep Whelan quiet, they didn't really threaten us.
As most have said, we looked more dangerous when Kodjia came on. I thought Jack was having one of his poorer games of the season until he won it for us. He's that type of player though; he can have an off day and still won you the match. The wingers are becoming a worry though. They were integral to our winning run, and yet both seem to be really struggling at the moment. Whether they're tired or have been found out a bit, I'm not sure, but this is where the manager and coaches need to earn their money. Something needs to be done before the playoffs.
It can't be nice having to watch Cardiff every week. And I say that having watched us all my life!
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Does anyone know why Bjarnason was withdrawn from the starting XI?
I did see him sit on the ground for a while during the warm-up, which in hindsight was a bit unsual
Strange
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A bit surprised about the praise for Bree, he looked very shaky, missed some simple clearances and gave the ball away far too much.
I appreciate he was a late call up and out of position, so I wouldn’t hold the performance against him, but I’ll be glad when Hutton is back
Criminal how he didn't block the cross for their header at the end. In saying that I'd probably give him a start on Friday on the right if Hutton or Taylor are available.
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Great match up with Kodja and Bamba in second half. He looks a good defender and unlike most of there team wasn’t trying to feign injury and waste time.
Yes, I liked Bamba. Think he will go on to play a higher level. Seems a decent sort too.
He is 33 now
Wow, maybe just having one of those seasons then. Has looked good the few times I’ve seen him this season
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A welcome win, but sadly a little too late to make the top 2. We're the third best side in the league & that's where we'll finish.
Other than a few goalmouth scrambles, Cardiff created next to nothing. We had as many attempts on our own goal as they did. Second half I thought we were by far the better side.
The Premier League must be dreading the prospect of seeing one of Cardiff, Boro or Millwall next season.
Surely there would be some conspiracy to stop Millwall going up.
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It was a decent performance, I thought. Our defence looked more solid than it has been for weeks, despite (or because of?) the forced changes. We are still vulnerable to pace, but without Axel and Alan, I don't know what we can do about that. Once we'd figured out how to keep Whelan quiet, they didn't really threaten us.
As most have said, we looked more dangerous when Kodjia came on. I thought Jack was having one of his poorer games of the season until he won it for us. He's that type of player though; he can have an off day and still won you the match. The wingers are becoming a worry though. They were integral to our winning run, and yet both seem to be really struggling at the moment. Whether they're tired or have been found out a bit, I'm not sure, but this is where the manager and coaches need to earn their money. Something needs to be done before the playoffs.
It can't be nice having to watch Cardiff every week. And I say that having watched us all my life!
Not sure about our defence last night really, Cardiff still managed to create a number of clear openings. Our lack of pace in midfield was exposed and lack of height. Jedinak aside there weren't many more in our team going to win a header against them last night.
I might be in a minority of one but I was impressed by Cardiff last night. A club with a fraction of our resources but they were the better side for first hour anyway. True they were cynical as hell but in a game of this magnitude they were hardly going to do anything but try and kick the likes of Snodgrass and Grealish out of the game. The polar opposite of our gutless display v Norwich.
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We beat a team above us in the League, we scored a great goal, we kept a clean sheet, we put Colin's nose out of joint. What is there not to love?
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I thought they were shit to be honest and light years away from Wolves
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I thought Cardiff were a dreadful footballing team but they were a team and were fighting together. Football is about passion and aggression too and they had that in abundance.
But I prefer 'football' added - a la Liverpuddle.
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Does anyone know why Bjarnason was withdrawn from the starting XI?
I did see him sit on the ground for a while during the warm-up, which in hindsight was a bit unsual
Strange
Tweaked his back in the warm up according to the post match interview with Clemence.
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I really enjoyed the game. Classic battle between two evenly match sides i thought.
Best two moments of football of the night, the move that led to Grabban hitting the side netting very early doors and his wonderful pass to Hourianne who similarly fucked his chance up. Quality play
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I enjoyed the game, some good moments and their best chances were Whelan trying desperately to stick it in his own net.
Grabban reminds me of Collymore in his demeanour and movement.
Grealish scored a fabulous goal that shows why we should keep him whatever happens.
Cardiff just kept switching round who was doing the fouling and niggling, it was clever stuff really but we were the better team.
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As it stands this is exactly how I want the table to finish. Cardiff would play Millwall and we would play Derby. I would take that with Fulham automatically going up as I think they would be massive favourites if the ended up in the playoffs.
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I'd keep Kodjia & Grabban upfront together for Friday. I see a decent partnership in there (well, when JK passes that is).
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I'd keep Kodjia & Grabban upfront together for Friday. I see a decent partnership in there (well, when JK passes that is).
Kodjia is a little selfish shall we say at the best of times, which also makes him the player he is, but right now he’s just dying for that first open play goal in absolutely ages.
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Colin Wankers tactics make SB look like Guardiola - 1970's industrial football by numbers - how the hell have they maintained 2nd for a large part of the season?
Johnstone - still some key elements of his game worry me but 3 excellent saves
Elmo - Thought he was solid and Hoilett was hardly noticed
Jedinak - just like our idiotic play at times they kept lumping it straight at him in the air - the area he most excels at so no worries with him for most of the game
Chester - one truly awful pass aside - nice and tidy and mopped up most things
Bree - considering he was sitting in the stand at warm up, then on the bench at KO then on after 15 minutes thought he did pretty well
Adomah - he has periods like this and the key will be knowing when to drop him rather than play him and hope he comes back into form - I would now drop
Whelen - again in warm up he was on bench and Jedinak was to be in there so not too fazed by his contribution
Snoddy - deliveries not as cutting as they were previously as teams learn quickly - must admit I thought Bennett shackled him well
Hourihane - if he does not score then he is invisible - his contribution is awful and again spends too much time getting ball to pass 5 yards - usually facing the wrong way. A goal would have befitted a tremendous ball from Grabben.
Grabben - lost his man brilliantly for early attempt but not in it till 2nd half - thought he looked very good attacking wide right and he would definitely take AA's place on Friday.
Grealish - MOTM - when you see his kit afterwards from head to toe it is covered in mud as he is on the deck as much as he is standing up. He must actually love the attention he gets and revels in the rough stuff. At nearly every corner he was looking for an angle so why they left him all alone is beyond me for the goal - what a strike. For us older ones there is definitely a touch of George Best about him - his swagger and the ability in no space at all to move past a shadowing player is incredible. I really hope he grows into the player he can be and I really hope it is with us
Jimmy Danger - looked exactly that when he came on - I think Bamba must still be trying to un knot his legs he got turned so much. If it is the play offs then what a time for him to be coming back
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When did Kodja get the nickname Jimmy Danger?
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When did Kodja get the nickname Jimmy Danger?
while on national team duty. I’ve seen JOKO too, which might be the same thing.
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I thought Bruce's change of Hourihane for Samba was a good bit of work. Cardiff had got to "Launch" mode and Samba would have been a useful addition back there if they got round to using the tactic. Hourihane was largely anonymous anyway.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dac1_xQX4AEQvVe.jpg)
Much jubilation from HRH Royal Highness John Carew and some mate of his on the left.
Who is on the left?
Hair to the throne. Not sure about the one on the right, maybe one of them secret service agents, doesn't look like he's too concerned about JC and an 8 year old though.
An 8 year old, I thought it was Paul McCartney!
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One approves
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dac1_xQX4AEQvVe.jpg)
Much jubilation from HRH Royal Highness John Carew and some mate of his on the left.
Who is on the left?
Hair to the throne. Not sure about the one on the right, maybe one of them secret service agents, doesn't look like he's too concerned about JC and an 8 year old though.
'Hair' to the throne? That's cruel man, cruel.
The secret service man probably correctly assumed that there'd be very little he could to stop Big John anyway, so just carried on checking Twitter on his phone.
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I thought Bruce's change of Hourihane for Samba was a good bit of work. Cardiff had got to "Launch" mode and Samba would have been a useful addition back there if they got round to using the tactic. Hourihane was largely anonymous anyway.
Plus they ended up with Bamba moving upfront hence why a few times we threatened a second with them lacking numbers in defence.
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While Adomah is out of sorts I would start Grabban on the left and give Kodj his first start. Grabbans ball to Hourihane was filthy
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When did Kodja get the nickname Jimmy Danger?
while on national team duty. I’ve seen JOKO too, which might be the same thing.
They spell it Jimy if anyone cares
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Colin Wankers tactics make SB look like Guardiola - 1970's industrial football by numbers - how the hell have they maintained 2nd for a large part of the season?
Johnstone - still some key elements of his game worry me but 3 excellent saves
Elmo - Thought he was solid and Hoilett was hardly noticed
Jedinak - just like our idiotic play at times they kept lumping it straight at him in the air - the area he most excels at so no worries with him for most of the game
Chester - one truly awful pass aside - nice and tidy and mopped up most things
Bree - considering he was sitting in the stand at warm up, then on the bench at KO then on after 15 minutes thought he did pretty well
Adomah - he has periods like this and the key will be knowing when to drop him rather than play him and hope he comes back into form - I would now drop
Whelen - again in warm up he was on bench and Jedinak was to be in there so not too fazed by his contribution
Snoddy - deliveries not as cutting as they were previously as teams learn quickly - must admit I thought Bennett shackled him well
Hourihane - if he does not score then he is invisible - his contribution is awful and again spends too much time getting ball to pass 5 yards - usually facing the wrong way. A goal would have befitted a tremendous ball from Grabben.
Grabben - lost his man brilliantly for early attempt but not in it till 2nd half - thought he looked very good attacking wide right and he would definitely take AA's place on Friday.
Grealish - MOTM - when you see his kit afterwards from head to toe it is covered in mud as he is on the deck as much as he is standing up. He must actually love the attention he gets and revels in the rough stuff. At nearly every corner he was looking for an angle so why they left him all alone is beyond me for the goal - what a strike. For us older ones there is definitely a touch of George Best about him - his swagger and the ability in no space at all to move past a shadowing player is incredible. I really hope he grows into the player he can be and I really hope it is with us
Jimmy Danger - looked exactly that when he came on - I think Bamba must still be trying to un knot his legs he got turned so much. If it is the play offs then what a time for him to be coming back
Would agree with a lot of that Hookey. I thought Elmohamady's crossing was poor last night and has been for sometime. I agree with the comments about Bree and Whelan and the lack of notice, but I thought even though they did OK considering, both had their shaky moments. Agree about Hourihane, Snodgrass and Adomah and would personally take all three out of the side for Friday.
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Colin's tactics make SB look like Guardiola
Like a Manager who has lost 3 big games in a week?
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"For us older ones there is definitely a touch of George Best about him ".
I tend to think more Chico Hamilton or at a push Stan Bowles. Mind you when he is on the lash with his mates their are certain Best similarities.
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Whilst watching on TV, I noticed Bruce barking at Jack - "2nd ball, 2nd ball". A couple of minutes later he scores. Who says Bruce doesn't do tactics?
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wow - looks like your all happy again . told you to expect route 1 with the ball being launched like an exocet missile so nothing new there then from us . thought you were the better side on the night which I expected but thought we'd deserved a draw simply by the amount of chances we created . mathematically our mission is accomplished we are at least cemented in the play offs but maybe warnock can weave his magic and nick us over the line into second spot . he's hopeing
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Over the years I've tried really hard to like Colin, especially the time he, and more importantly, his club were shafted over the Tevez affair. He's never been a brilliant manager but always adequate and perhaps a tiny bit above average. It's when he opens his gob, and the Albion scenario that time, that he shows himself as the insidious, spiteful little bastard that he is.
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When did Kodja get the nickname Jimmy Danger?
while on national team duty. I’ve seen JOKO too, which might be the same thing.
I've heard people use PASSIT and LOOKUP as well
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Whilst watching on TV, I noticed Bruce barking at Jack - "2nd ball, 2nd ball". A couple of minutes later he scores. Who says Bruce doesn't do tactics?
Steven says so apparently. I read the other day that s MUtd player said Fergie didn't do tactics either, it was about motivation.
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Great match up with Kodja and Bamba in second half. He looks a good defender and unlike most of there team wasn’t trying to feign injury and waste time.
Yes, I liked Bamba. Think he will go on to play a higher level. Seems a decent sort too.
He is 33 now
He’s a young 33 though.
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Unsurprisingly, Warnock doesn't respond to the name 'Colin' despite how may times my mate yelled at him last night from well within earshot
I am really really surprised at that...that you have a mate. :)
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Unsurprisingly, Warnock doesn't respond to the name 'Colin' despite how may times my mate yelled at him last night from well within earshot
A 'Guardian' BTL poster was complaining about the abuse levelled at Warnock.Can't have witnessed him in action close up like we did last night.The constant berating of the 4th official was awful.Why the 4th official didn't get him sent to the stands to sit next to Carew and his mate was beyond belief.Instead the official is bullied into getting the ref to change his mind over a minor infringement.
Phil Brown's throwing a ball onto the pitch in the LC semifinal when Villa were attacking is small fry compared to Colin's antics.
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Colin Wankers tactics make SB look like Guardiola - 1970's industrial football by numbers - how the hell have they maintained 2nd for a large part of the season?
Johnstone - still some key elements of his game worry me but 3 excellent saves
Elmo - Thought he was solid and Hoilett was hardly noticed
Jedinak - just like our idiotic play at times they kept lumping it straight at him in the air - the area he most excels at so no worries with him for most of the game
Chester - one truly awful pass aside - nice and tidy and mopped up most things
Bree - considering he was sitting in the stand at warm up, then on the bench at KO then on after 15 minutes thought he did pretty well
Adomah - he has periods like this and the key will be knowing when to drop him rather than play him and hope he comes back into form - I would now drop
Whelen - again in warm up he was on bench and Jedinak was to be in there so not too fazed by his contribution
Snoddy - deliveries not as cutting as they were previously as teams learn quickly - must admit I thought Bennett shackled him well
Hourihane - if he does not score then he is invisible - his contribution is awful and again spends too much time getting ball to pass 5 yards - usually facing the wrong way. A goal would have befitted a tremendous ball from Grabben.
Grabben - lost his man brilliantly for early attempt but not in it till 2nd half - thought he looked very good attacking wide right and he would definitely take AA's place on Friday.
Grealish - MOTM - when you see his kit afterwards from head to toe it is covered in mud as he is on the deck as much as he is standing up. He must actually love the attention he gets and revels in the rough stuff. At nearly every corner he was looking for an angle so why they left him all alone is beyond me for the goal - what a strike. For us older ones there is definitely a touch of George Best about him - his swagger and the ability in no space at all to move past a shadowing player is incredible. I really hope he grows into the player he can be and I really hope it is with us
Jimmy Danger - looked exactly that when he came on - I think Bamba must still be trying to un knot his legs he got turned so much. If it is the play offs then what a time for him to be coming back
Quality post. Congrats on number 8000.
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Draw would have been a fair result.
Yes it would have been if it was a points based game and points were awarded for incessant time wasting from the very first minute, constantly arguing with officials in relays and for long throw ins from inline with their own 6 yard box all night long.
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What was pleasantly surprising about Kodjia last night was that he was physically well up to it. His touch and movement were excellent as expected but I liked the fact he got stuck into that Cardiff player who was rugby tackling him.
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Great match up with Kodja and Bamba in second half. He looks a good defender and unlike most of there team wasn’t trying to feign injury and waste time.
Yes, I liked Bamba. Think he will go on to play a higher level. Seems a decent sort too.
He is 33 now
He’s a young 33 though.
I like Bamba too. shame he didn’t chin Colin here
https://youtu.be/0XIquvI7WGg
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wow - looks like your all happy again . told you to expect route 1 with the ball being launched like an exocet missile so nothing new there then from us . thought you were the better side on the night which I expected but thought we'd deserved a draw simply by the amount of chances we created . mathematically our mission is accomplished we are at least cemented in the play offs but maybe warnock can weave his magic and nick us over the line into second spot . he's hopeing
I genuinely don't know how you can watch that horseshit every week. You are a low rent Stoke. Plenty of Cardiff fans are whining about Grealish diving and moaning to the ref on your forum but I am surprised the police haven't been called in with a view to an assault charge with the way your players take it in turns to hack the opposition. And it is a little rich to complain of gamesmanship or cheating by the opponents given how you "play" the game. And that is before we get to the hypocritical ****** you have as a manager, who bemoans the Wolves boss for a lack of class whilst telling him to fuck off, who attempted to assault a kid in the tunnel last year for having the temerity to be pissed off at being kicked from pillar to post, who should be facing some serious FA charges for his scandalous comments about Derby deliberately getting a game called off because they had a few injuries and all of that from a bloke who should have been banned from the game for a long period of time for deliberately getting a match abandoned to include some tackles for red cards that would see you banged up if you did it in a pub on a Saturday night. You have been respectful since you have been here so the dig isn't aimed at you personally but I detest your 1970's anti football and the Grade A bellend you have for a manager.
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wow - looks like your all happy again . told you to expect route 1 with the ball being launched like an exocet missile so nothing new there then from us . thought you were the better side on the night which I expected but thought we'd deserved a draw simply by the amount of chances we created . mathematically our mission is accomplished we are at least cemented in the play offs but maybe warnock can weave his magic and nick us over the line into second spot . he's hopeing
I genuinely don't know how you can watch that horseshit every week. You are a low rent Stoke. Plenty of Cardiff fans are whining about Grealish diving and moaning to the ref on your forum but I am surprised the police haven't been called in with a view to an assault charge with the way your players take it in turns to hack the opposition. And it is a little rich to complain of gamesmanship or cheating by the opponents given how you "play" the game. And that is before we get to the hypocritical c*** you have as a manager, who bemoans the Wolves boss for a lack of class whilst telling him to fuck off, who attempted to assault a kid in the tunnel last year for having the temerity to be pissed off at being kicked from pillar to post, who should be facing some serious FA charges for his scandalous comments about Derby deliberately getting a game called off because they had a few injuries and all of that from a bloke who should have been banned from the game for a long period of time for deliberately getting a match abandoned to include some tackles for red cards that would see you banged up if you did it in a pub on a Saturday night. You have been respectful since you have been here so the dig isn't aimed at you personally but I detest your 1970's anti football and the Grade A bellend you have for a manager.
Brilliant and spot on.
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Draw would have been a fair result.
Yes it would have been if it was a points based game and points were awarded for incessant time wasting from the very first minute, constantly arguing with officials in relays and for long throw ins from inline with their own 6 yard box all night long.
Aye. They're like 1980s Wimbledon, without the fairytale backstory.
Dreadful, dreadful set up.
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Cardiff are like an über-Small Heath, a Blose fan’s dream team. Hardworking, over-physical, full of pashun but none of that poncey ‘skill’ rubbish.
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i,ve been reading this all year about warnock from all different fans so what you say is about the norm so here's my pennys worth . When he took over we were on a massive slide and looked like we were heading for the dungeon leagues again and believe me watching league 1/2 football is the last thing i want to watch . spent most of my life down in the dungeon leagues or division 2/3 to us older heads . we ain't got the kinda dosh that you have spent over the years and wolves have spent alot this year too , even derby too the list is endless . so to us challenging to get into the prem league is nothing short of a miracle . I take your point regarding the style of play but we ain't got the players to play silky football .Would love us to play like wolves or fulham who pass the ball well from back to front . warnock isn't everyones cup of tea i know but he has saved our club from being a club like pompey or wigan that's for sure . by the way when wolves fans complained about our tactics the other week again and we are above them in the fair play league . work that one out ( not sure where villa are mind)
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I have just bought TWO Villa mugs to celebrate that strike. This follows a mug boycott of several years in protest at our shitness.
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i,ve been reading this all year about warnock from all different fans so what you say is about the norm so here's my pennys worth . When he took over we were on a massive slide and looked like we were heading for the dungeon leagues again and believe me watching league 1/2 football is the last thing i want to watch . spent most of my life down in the dungeon leagues or division 2/3 to us older heads . we ain't got the kinda dosh that you have spent over the years and wolves have spent alot this year too , even derby too the list is endless . so to us challenging to get into the prem league is nothing short of a miracle . I take your point regarding the style of play but we ain't got the players to play silky football .Would love us to play like wolves or fulham who pass the ball well from back to front . warnock isn't everyones cup of tea i know but he has saved our club from being a club like pompey or wigan that's for sure . by the way when wolves fans complained about our tactics the other week again and we are above them in the fair play league . work that one out ( not sure where villa are mind)
Fair enough.
You lot are very good at what you do. Alehouse football. Sunday league on steroids.
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A dupe who watched last night's game as an introduction to the Championship could reasonably conclude if that was the third and fourth best team on display, 5th and below must be the Dog and Duck or Boldmere St Michaels standard.
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wow - looks like your all happy again . told you to expect route 1 with the ball being launched like an exocet missile so nothing new there then from us . thought you were the better side on the night which I expected but thought we'd deserved a draw simply by the amount of chances we created . mathematically our mission is accomplished we are at least cemented in the play offs but maybe warnock can weave his magic and nick us over the line into second spot . he's hopeing
I genuinely don't know how you can watch that horseshit every week. You are a low rent Stoke. Plenty of Cardiff fans are whining about Grealish diving and moaning to the ref on your forum but I am surprised the police haven't been called in with a view to an assault charge with the way your players take it in turns to hack the opposition. And it is a little rich to complain of gamesmanship or cheating by the opponents given how you "play" the game. And that is before we get to the hypocritical c*** you have as a manager, who bemoans the Wolves boss for a lack of class whilst telling him to fuck off, who attempted to assault a kid in the tunnel last year for having the temerity to be pissed off at being kicked from pillar to post, who should be facing some serious FA charges for his scandalous comments about Derby deliberately getting a game called off because they had a few injuries and all of that from a bloke who should have been banned from the game for a long period of time for deliberately getting a match abandoned to include some tackles for red cards that would see you banged up if you did it in a pub on a Saturday night. You have been respectful since you have been here so the dig isn't aimed at you personally but I detest your 1970's anti football and the Grade A bellend you have for a manager.
Some here would say you just described Villa over the past few years.
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i,ve been reading this all year about warnock from all different fans so what you say is about the norm so here's my pennys worth . When he took over we were on a massive slide and looked like we were heading for the dungeon leagues again and believe me watching league 1/2 football is the last thing i want to watch . spent most of my life down in the dungeon leagues or division 2/3 to us older heads . we ain't got the kinda dosh that you have spent over the years and wolves have spent alot this year too , even derby too the list is endless . so to us challenging to get into the prem league is nothing short of a miracle . I take your point regarding the style of play but we ain't got the players to play silky football .Would love us to play like wolves or fulham who pass the ball well from back to front . warnock isn't everyones cup of tea i know but he has saved our club from being a club like pompey or wigan that's for sure . by the way when wolves fans complained about our tactics the other week again and we are above them in the fair play league . work that one out ( not sure where villa are mind)
Wolves are an irritation. Like getting bitten by a mosquito whilst you do a couple of weeks in Greece. Colin has a way to drag smallish clubs into results. Without wanting to sound too arrogant, it wouldn't wash here for five minutes.
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i,ve been reading this all year about warnock from all different fans so what you say is about the norm so here's my pennys worth . When he took over we were on a massive slide and looked like we were heading for the dungeon leagues again and believe me watching league 1/2 football is the last thing i want to watch . spent most of my life down in the dungeon leagues or division 2/3 to us older heads . we ain't got the kinda dosh that you have spent over the years and wolves have spent alot this year too , even derby too the list is endless . so to us challenging to get into the prem league is nothing short of a miracle . I take your point regarding the style of play but we ain't got the players to play silky football .Would love us to play like wolves or fulham who pass the ball well from back to front . warnock isn't everyones cup of tea i know but he has saved our club from being a club like pompey or wigan that's for sure . by the way when wolves fans complained about our tactics the other week again and we are above them in the fair play league . work that one out ( not sure where villa are mind)
There were some on here a while back comparing Warnock favourably over Bruce simply due to the turnaround he achieved. No doubt about that. Most of us would have taken Cardiff's results this year but in the end, I think both club's fans are not convinced by either manager for the long term. I don't know what it takes to make me happy as a life-long fan but it is in short supply throughout football everywhere.
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i like those words peterwithe .tickled me -haha
just a heads up about james chester from a welsh point of view on our local news tonight . he will be missing our friendly game with mexico at the end of May as it ties in with his wedding . not sure if that will affect his plans if AV get to the play off final . that's usually the last week of May too
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The final is 26 May.
We won a another fairly important game on that date I think.
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i like those words peterwithe .tickled me -haha
just a heads up about james chester from a welsh point of view on our local news tonight . he will be missing our friendly game with mexico at the end of May as it ties in with his wedding . not sure if that will affect his plans if AV get to the play off final . that's usually the last week of May too
Yeah the friendly is in the States but it's a pointless one like the one in China was. The play off final is on the 26th....if we get there.
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Still very much an outside chance
for making it obviously, but that was about pride as well as showing we'd be a threat in the play-offs. Of course it was pretty hard work, but we have a guy with something that almost no-one else in the division has.
I think we have two with Kodjia.
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wow - looks like your all happy again . told you to expect route 1 with the ball being launched like an exocet missile so nothing new there then from us . thought you were the better side on the night which I expected but thought we'd deserved a draw simply by the amount of chances we created . mathematically our mission is accomplished we are at least cemented in the play offs but maybe warnock can weave his magic and nick us over the line into second spot . he's hopeing
I genuinely don't know how you can watch that horseshit every week. You are a low rent Stoke. Plenty of Cardiff fans are whining about Grealish diving and moaning to the ref on your forum but I am surprised the police haven't been called in with a view to an assault charge with the way your players take it in turns to hack the opposition. And it is a little rich to complain of gamesmanship or cheating by the opponents given how you "play" the game. And that is before we get to the hypocritical c*** you have as a manager, who bemoans the Wolves boss for a lack of class whilst telling him to fuck off, who attempted to assault a kid in the tunnel last year for having the temerity to be pissed off at being kicked from pillar to post, who should be facing some serious FA charges for his scandalous comments about Derby deliberately getting a game called off because they had a few injuries and all of that from a bloke who should have been banned from the game for a long period of time for deliberately getting a match abandoned to include some tackles for red cards that would see you banged up if you did it in a pub on a Saturday night. You have been respectful since you have been here so the dig isn't aimed at you personally but I detest your 1970's anti football and the Grade A bellend you have for a manager.
Some here would say you just described Villa over the past few years.
You read my mind. We are hardly a template for football purity and as for our managers , well where do you begin.
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Our managers might have been bad, but none of them were as immoral as Colin.
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I genuinely thought I had stepped into a parallel universe (for a bit) when I heard Wanker berating the Wolves lad for a lack of manners and a bit of class.
Wankers in glass houses shouldn't send shitebags out to kick people off the park, or try to get games abandoned through murderball.
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I have just bought TWO Villa mugs to celebrate that strike.
Gabby & Micah?!
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Mr Cardiff fan you come across as a genuine guy and have been honest in your posts. I spent new year eve in Cardiff and had a great time.
But
The only positive for your team getting promoted would be to see Warnock made to look even more of a dinosaur than he already is.
As someone said previously a poor man's stoke under Pulis and that is as bad as it gets
But more than that he comes over as almost likeable on the radio etc but in real life a vile piece of shit that relies on his panto alter ego and general cuntiness to make up for his football failings.
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@ Dinas
I totally understand where you're coming from, re. Cardiff competing for promotion. As for the direct football - I understand that too and can see your players play to their strengths and who could argue with that?
We had a manager a few years ago who we revere who played this way and if were still around he and his football would be welcomed back with open arms.
The difference is he had integrity and style and loved football.
You have Colin. A malevolent and twisted wanker. You, your club and players deserve much better.
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just finished watching the real madrid game and what a game that was . your right hookeysmith cardiff is a great night out the best in the uk no contest . my final thoughts before i retire up the wooden hill whatever anyone says it's been a great season for us whether we go up or not and have to disagree about all the things said about warnock . i have actually met him at the vale hotel which is on the outskirts of cardiff and come across as a genuine person . you only speak as you find as they say . norwich for us this weekend think we might sneak a draw up there
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just finished watching the real madrid game and what a game that was . your right hookeysmith cardiff is a great night out the best in the uk no contest .
Can you get orange chips?
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is there any evidence that Warnock is as obnoxious as some people claim or is this just another football myth?
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is there any evidence that Warnock is as obnoxious as some people claim or is this just another football myth?
He’s probably alright most of the time. He didn’t come across badly in the post-match interview either.
Can be a total knob in the heat of the moment, though, clearly.
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I am sure if you went for a pint and talked football with him he would be quite engaging. It doesn't stop his constant cheatathon football being an abomination nor stop him being a detestable ******.
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just finished watching the real madrid game and what a game that was . your right hookeysmith cardiff is a great night out the best in the uk no contest .
Can you get orange chips?
Excellent. I miss orange chips.
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I am sure if you went for a pint and talked football with him he would be quite engaging. It doesn't stop his constant cheatathon football being an abomination nor stop him being a detestable c***.
This. You nailed it there.
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well did he. That was my question - where is the evidence that he is a despicable cnut?
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well did he. That was my question - where is the evidence that he is a despicable cnut?
Everything he says and everything he does?
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Sounded quite rational in the post match interview the other day. And his 50% win ratio at Cardiff ain't bad!
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Colin is just what his nickname suggests. However, I haven't got it in me to be annoyed by him. You know what you're going to get and he isn't boring. He is also, undoubtedly, a successful manager at this level. I'd like us and Cardiff to finish third and fourth - I don't fancy them away in the playoffs and think that if we got through the semi finals, we'd beat them at Wembley. A lot of ifs and buts to get to that situation.
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is there any evidence that Warnock is as obnoxious as some people claim or is this just another football myth?
Telling the Wolves manager to fuck off instead of shaking hands?
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is there any evidence that Warnock is as obnoxious as some people claim or is this just another football myth?
Telling the Wolves manager to fuck off instead of shaking hands?
Deliberately getting a game abandoned.
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