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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Tuscans on September 11, 2016, 12:18:11 PM
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Gollini, De Laet, Elphick, Chester, Cissokho, Gardner, Westwood, Ayew, McCormack, Grealish, Kodija
Subs- Bunn, Baker, Richards, Bacuna, Gestede, Amavi, Jedinak
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Hmm midfield
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Gardner, Westwood... must mean Jedinak and Tshibola aren't fit. Balls. Although Jedinak also had a long trip. Why no Adomah at least on the bench?
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Hmm midfield
Weak without Tshibola and Jedinak.
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Proper shit midfield again.
Presumably RDM will stick with the 4231...
Gallini
De Laet, Elphick, Chester, Cissokho
Gardner, Westwood
Ayew, McCormack, Grealish
Kodija
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Injuries and travel can be the only reasons for that midfield.
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Good bench looks like Adomah and Tshibola will be ok for the other 2 games this week so not too worried.
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Any link for game? Abroad in middle East. I k ow naughty but no chance watching gotherwise. And we can win both halves today.
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fuck me westwood and gardner0 ::)
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Just once just once why can't we have our strongest players available all at once that's all I ask.
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fuck me westwood and gardner0 ::)
Off we go again. Those pair. I think I'll read a book instead.
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Gardner and Westwood. Won't win.
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Any link for game? Abroad in middle East. I k ow naughty but no chance watching gotherwise. And we can win both halves today.
I've sent you a pm mate.
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It's a long old season so if we have to play these two then home games is place to do it I suppose
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The only consolation is that against Derby neither Gardner or Westwood stood out. It neither were liabilities. And if the forwards did their job we'd have won that game
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Fucking hell I'm sick of seeing shit midfields down the Villa. Hope Tshibola isn't a sicknote, we need him.
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Just win please Villa, we need this. Disappointing that Tish, Adomah and Jedi are out.
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Jedi on bench just in case we need him last half hour I guess.
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The only consolation is that against Derby neither Gardner or Westwood stood out. It neither were liabilities. And if the forwards did their job we'd have won that game
Point
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Fucking hell I'm sick of seeing shit midfields down the Villa. Hope Tshibola isn't a sicknote, we need him.
Di Matteo was an excellent midfielder. You would have thought he knows a good one or two. Evidently not. Maybe Gardner will score against his former club kind of thing..
Where is Adomah?
What a disappointing lineup.
Still, good to see Kodjia out there. I think him and McCormack will be an excellent partnership.
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Just watching a bit of the Chinese league game first, surely we should look good in comparison.
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Adomah is injured that came out on Friday. Jedinak came back with a knock and travelled 30,000 miles. Hence that's why I assume he's on the bench but Gardner and Westwood Jesus.
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Adomah is injured.
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Forest will know they can press that midfield in the second half and it will yield. Today we must take all our chances.
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Adomah came back from the international break with an injury I read. Fucking pointless games.
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I was hoping to see Albert today - that midfield again - Its ok when you are on top but soon as the other team scores it just goes missing but obviously injuries means why he has picked them .
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this is why we needed that extra midfielder coming in - anyone Lansbury, Ledley or even bloody charlie adam ;)
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Fucking hell I'm sick of seeing shit midfields down the Villa. Hope Tshibola isn't a sicknote, we need him.
Di Matteo was an excellent midfielder. You would have thought he knows a good one or two. Evidently not. Maybe Gardner will score against his former club kind of thing..
Where is Adomah?
What a disappointing lineup.
Still, good to see Kodjia out there. I think him and McCormack will be an excellent partnership.
Lambert, Sherwood and Garde were all very decent as well, so I'm not sure that that's how it works.
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You can't knock what they did overall in the window, it was excellent but it is fair to say that if we lose 1 in centre mid or central defence we should be concerned, and if we lose 2 we're potentially in real shit.
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Fucking hell I'm sick of seeing shit midfields down the Villa. Hope Tshibola isn't a sicknote, we need him.
Di Matteo was an excellent midfielder. You would have thought he knows a good one or two. Evidently not. Maybe Gardner will score against his former club kind of thing..
Where is Adomah?
What a disappointing lineup.
Still, good to see Kodjia out there. I think him and McCormack will be an excellent partnership.
It's depressing but who else is RDM supposed to pick if all the other options aren't fit to play?
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You can't knock what they did overall in the window, it was excellent but it is fair to say that if we lose 1 in centre mid or central defence we should be concerned, and if we lose 2 we're potentially in real shit.
I wonder if we have recall options on Sanchez and/or Veretout. Seems unlikely, but...
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Surely if fit Jedi Tish Westwood Lyden Bacuna Gardner is enough ?
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Do we have any up and coming midfielders in the u21's? Gardener moves like a donkey in treacle.
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Fucking hell I'm sick of seeing shit midfields down the Villa. Hope Tshibola isn't a sicknote, we need him.
Di Matteo was an excellent midfielder. You would have thought he knows a good one or two. Evidently not. Maybe Gardner will score against his former club kind of thing..
Where is Adomah?
What a disappointing lineup.
Still, good to see Kodjia out there. I think him and McCormack will be an excellent partnership.
Lambert, Sherwood and Garde were all very decent as well, so I'm not sure that that's how it works.
Very true, my friend.
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Gardner has really got to take his chance soon. If he doesn't raise his game against Forrest he never will. Westwood is fine for 50% of the game when we're on top. When we're not he's a liability. If he improves the latter part of his game (and granted he's had 4 years to improve) then he'll be fine in the Championship.
I worry about us defensively because of the weak midfield, but what is more important today is our attack. That front 4 should be absolutely bloody murdering this league. I don't care if we concede a couple of goals if we score 3-4 ourselves. We have to start putting away our chances when we have them. We should have put Huddersfield, Derby and Bristol City to the sword but we fluffed our lines.
UTV.
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Fucking hell I'm sick of seeing shit midfields down the Villa. Hope Tshibola isn't a sicknote, we need him.
Di Matteo was an excellent midfielder. You would have thought he knows a good one or two. Evidently not. Maybe Gardner will score against his former club kind of thing..
Where is Adomah?
What a disappointing lineup.
Still, good to see Kodjia out there. I think him and McCormack will be an excellent partnership.
Lambert, Sherwood and Garde were all very decent as well, so I'm not sure that that's how it works.
Very true, my friend.
At this stage, I can't help but feel that it's a grand conspiracy. Even people like me who doesn't think someone like Westwood is actually all that bad don't really want him starting every game, yet it still happens.
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Per the comment above, who should have played instead of westy sorry? The other options aren't fit
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Perfect summary supertom
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Fucking hell I'm sick of seeing shit midfields down the Villa. Hope Tshibola isn't a sicknote, we need him.
Di Matteo was an excellent midfielder. You would have thought he knows a good one or two. Evidently not. Maybe Gardner will score against his former club kind of thing..
Where is Adomah?
What a disappointing lineup.
Still, good to see Kodjia out there. I think him and McCormack will be an excellent partnership.
Lambert, Sherwood and Garde were all very decent as well, so I'm not sure that that's how it works.
Very true, my friend.
At this stage, I can't help but feel that it's a grand conspiracy. Even people like me who doesn't think someone like Westwood is actually all that bad don't really want him starting every game, yet it still happens.
Hey, we have a man in charge who took him off corners for the first time in 4 years, what more do you want?
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It's a long old season so if we have to play these two then home games is place to do it I suppose
. Thanks. Will gee it a try. Come on da Villa!
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Surely if fit Jedi Tish Westwood Lyden Bacuna Gardner is enough ?
Trouble is though, Westwood is fairly shit and Gardner is very shit. Add to that Bacuna's apparent flaky attitude and Tsibolas inexperience and I think another decent centre mid and centre back should be where the money is spent in Jan rather than looking to cover the abundance of attacking talent we have whilst they're away for a few matches on international duty.
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Surely if fit Jedi Tish Westwood Lyden Bacuna Gardner is enough ?
Bacuna can't play one of the two holding roles I don't think
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Ha, how weird was Minto going through that door with Robbie just sitting their like he was about to get a grilling at his first interview after leaving school.
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On the bright side, no Bendtner or Assombalonga for them.
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On the bright side, no Bendtner or Assombalonga for them.
But you would want Bendtner playing surely.
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I'll be interested to see if Lansbury is as good as many have suggested
At least it looks like Jedinak can manage say 30 mins (or why be on the bench). He hasn't done it so far but I'd like to see us move to a three man central midfield to close down the game if needed.
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Oh man, the midfield....
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I'll be interested to see if Lansbury is as good as many have suggested
At least it looks like Jedinak can manage say 30 mins (or why be on the bench). He hasn't done it so far but I'd like to see us move to a three man central midfield to close down the game if needed.
Very true Matt, if we find ourselves in front it might be worth taking an attacker off and putting an extra bod in the middle to help those 2 out and hopefully see the game out.
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I can't cope with a season this long and this amount of negativity. Get behind the lads and fingers crossed that we will see some improvement! Come on Villa!
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I can't cope with a season this long and this amount of negativity. Get behind the lads and fingers crossed that we will see some improvement! Come on Villa!
You're new then.
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They've got three in the centre so there is a risk we do get outnumbered - especially if Lansbury is as good as some think he is
Bench very defensive again - why no green?
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At least we know how slow Lichaj is, need to get at him at every opportunity.
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Any link for game? Abroad in middle East. I k ow naughty but no chance watching gotherwise. And we can win both halves today.
I've sent you a pm mate.
Me too, please
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They've moved the TV cameras? Seems a lot lower.
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Good start, then Cissokho enters the fray.
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Good start but we need to capitalise.
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Good start, then Cissokho enters the fray.
To be fair to him, he's done alright thus far this season.
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Good "FORWARD" pass from Ash.
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Good "FORWARD" pass from Ash.
Like thingy
Thousands of villa fans at the game swear it was McCormack
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Some nice zingy passing so far.
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Any link for game? Abroad in middle East. I k ow naughty but no chance watching gotherwise. And we can win both halves today.
I've sent you a pm mate.
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Got it..thanks all
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We look good so far
Still plenty of scope to let in a ridiculous goal though
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Be nice to score while we're on top for a change.
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Nice to see a right back comfortable with the ball in De Laet.
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Be nice to score while we're on top for a change.
We actually have this season and then not gone on to secure the game. Bristol City and Hudderfield come to mind.
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Sounds flat at the ground.
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Well on top but we need goals to show for it.
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Looking ok so far, but there is a lot of what Big Ron would call 'pinball' and not much penetration.*
*oo-er.
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They have skysports1.. should've known. No worries gi e us a goal now
Any link for game? Abroad in middle East. I k ow naughty but no chance watching gotherwise. And we can win both halves today.
I've sent you a pm mate.
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Get him off
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Get him off
I hope you are referring to something in the game
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Unlucky boys
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Get him off
I hope you are referring to something in the game
I thought I saw Dion in the crowd.
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He should be off for the 2 challenges he has made.
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I love the way players now all feel it's a lot more polite to swear at the ref with their hands behind their back.
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Gardner looks like he's had his weetabix. More pace
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He should be off for the 2 challenges he has made.
^ Toronto ^
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Come on Villa score some goals.
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Gardner looks like he's had his weetabix. More pace
It was the type of run through midfield we've been crying out for ages. Good start.
We could do with creating a few more chances though. So far, just from set pieces.
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Crowd sounds like a cricket match.
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We lack a bit of width down the right, real shame Adomah was not fit.
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It's nice to have a bit more pace and movement up front.
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Where's the atmosphere from the Rotherham and Huddersfield games gone?
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That bloody injury has bloody done us
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Dominating the game but we need to score before half-time and then keep our foot on the gas. One option may be to swap RM with Rudy if we want to be a bit more direct up top. The option is there.
We're just starting to see a lull in the game, this is the EXACT time where Westwood tends to disappear, so I'd really like him to get a grip in midfield. Gary has started well and hopefully he keeps going.
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Beginning to think Ayew is more trouble than he's worth
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Come on Villa. We need to win this.
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Kodjia offside. First of many I suspect
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They like to leave their foot in late don't they.
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Beginning to think Ayew is more trouble than he's worth
He's probably still our best player. The only problem is we're playing him out of position to accommodate him. He's been lively today without particularly creating much, and he's positionally not disciplined.
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Well that opening 30 minutes was a bag of shite.
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That was brave from Gollini.
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Come on Villa. A draw is no use whatsoever.
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Beginning to think Ayew is more trouble than he's worth
What's he done?
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Beginning to think Ayew is more trouble than he's worth
I certainly wonder if he, McCormack and grealish should all be in the same side
Good keeping that by Gollini
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We need to actually create some proper chances.
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If the linesman had called it right it would have been vital too. Landsbury does that anywhere else on the pitch and hes booked for kicking a bloke late.
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Well that opening 30 minutes was a bag of shite.
I disagree. Good 15 mins and then we've stopped after the injuries, which we need to sort out
Don't let that disrupt your narrative though
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If we could ever regularly score goals when we are in control of a game, we'd be a more than useful side.
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Its just all too nice...the Keeper has not had to make a save yet. I keep reading what a good player Ayew is. I just don't see it. I'm not sure what it is that he brings to the team.
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All momentum was lost with the first injury. We need to get going again
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I'd be happy with a scrappy 1-0 win today
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Fucking post again this season
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fuckety
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All momentum was lost with the first injury. We need to get going again
Crowd needs to give them a lift
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That was quality and Ross should have buried it.
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hows he miss that
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Go on Aly boy
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Missing 2 good chances in 2 minutes. Same old.
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Yes and yes
Should have scored. Good move though
Westwood playing a forward pass into ayew I think?
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We're missing good chances again.
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Better.
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For fuck's sake. We're like a sabre toothed tiger with no teeth.
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i cannot believe some of the golden chances we've already missed this season.
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get your head on it son
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What the hell was that? Head it you muppet
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who was injured ?
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Ayew is a right fanny.
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Kasami fouling again.
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We're missing good chances again.
At least we're starting to create them.
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We are much the better side again, we have to win this.
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We keep playing this way we will win...
Or concede late and lose 1-0
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Pass the ball FFS Ayew you clown. Twat.
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Ayew always takes forever to make a decision and then gets it wrong
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McCormack will start to get pissed with Jordan if he doesn't release the ball.
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Westwood just killed all momentum then, just fannying about on the ball.
I would get Ayew off and Gestede on. Kodjia wide right.
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Would be great to have the adomah option today
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Westwood just killed all momentum then, just fannying about on the ball.
I would get Ayew off and Gestede on. Kodjia wide right.
I wouldn't start moving around our new striker.
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Forrest are usually more open than this and the've stayed quite compact. I hope they push on a bit more and give us more space later in the game.
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Westwood just killed all momentum then, just fannying about on the ball.
I would get Ayew off and Gestede on. Kodjia wide right.
\Nah
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Ayew reminds me a lot of one guy I used to play football with when I was a teen, never passed the ball, always threw hissyfits and temper tantrums when his team lost. Fucking annoying twat.
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Da last looks decent. Ayews a greedy fucker.
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Ayew is fucking this team up. Can't the manager see this. Clown.
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Ayew, FFS!
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Do we practice shooting in training?
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Fucking hell Ayew could't hit a fucking barn door
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Two and half misses.. come on i want a first half win
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Forest will be happy with this. We've had the ball most of the game and done little with it. They know their chances will increase come the second half.
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I'm not sure what people's problem with Ayew is, he's been a threat and he played a role in the chance Ross should have scored.
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So much hate for one player who is probably our most dangerous and easily our best last season. Stays on the pitch and at the club for me.
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Clown again.
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Ayew what the hell was that.
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Great header that from Kodjia, unlucky
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Ahhhh nearly
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Great effort kodjia
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So close and very good from Ayew again.
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I'd swap Ayew for Gestede, and go 433.
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Benteke-esque header
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Forest will be happy with this. We've had the ball most of the game and done little with it. They know their chances will increase come the second half.
Well, apart from hitting the post from a yard out, ayew missing a sitter and twice getting into great shooting positions I agree
And kodjia almost scoring
Apart from that we've not created anything
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We're getting closer boys. The goal is coming.
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So close and very good from Ayew again.
Yep
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What the fuck is going on on top of Lansbury's head?
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Ayew is not our problem. Far from it. But he could do with being more clinical, as could the rest.
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What the fuck is going on on top of Lansbury's head?
Looks an absolute bell end.
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Why have they got Robert Lindsay in goal?
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Ayew's trying to do too much. He needs to keep it simple and be more elaborate at the right times. He got space, crossed it and we had a chance. Simples. He can't try and score a wonder goal every time he gets the ball. He's been lively today, if wasteful but calling him a clown or a waste of space is a bit harsh. He might be frustrating and a bit of a moody sod at times but he's trying.
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Goal line tech doesn't exist in this mediocre division does it.
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There must be at least five mins injury time?
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
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If I were his parent I would shave his fucking head. What a tit.
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Get him off
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Forest are shit, we're playing ok, but we still won't win. Same as pretty much every other game so far this season.
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Well, I've got to say so far westy and Gardner have pissed all over this Lansbury fella
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And like Ayew and his glum face too.
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
My issue is his finishing. He's had 2-3 decent chances and not hit the target. Hits the target happy days.
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Sorely lacking pace
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
Absolutely ridiculous. Done a lot more than McCormack for example
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Forest are shit, we're playing ok, but we still won't win. Same as pretty much every other game so far this season.
Yes, I'd agree with that. We need to start to capitalise properly when we are in control of games.
It'd be nice if we could manage a decent second half, too.
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Loving the Triad boss behind Brian Little.
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
Absolutely ridiculous. Done a lot more than McCormack for example
I think the general complaint is that his final decision making isn't the best.
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
My issue is his finishing. He's had 2-3 decent chances and not hit the target. Hits the target happy days.
Savo.
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I can literally hear the players shouting to each other
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
He just needs to hold his position a little more. Trouble is he wants to be in the middle. He comes inside and that forces RM to have to drop deep or shift to the left. Ayew's got to pick and choose his runs inside a bit more for the benefit of our shape and because he's got the ability to beat a man and cross it.
But he does look most likely to create something today, along with Jack.
I do think too that playing Grealish, RM and Ayew at once is not really working.
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I must say Don Goodman is an extremely good summariser.
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
Absolutely ridiculous. Done a lot more than McCormack for example
I think the general complaint is that his final decision making isn't the best.
Which is a fair comment.
He's shit
I can't see what on earth he brings
These are not fair enough
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I can literally hear the players shouting to each other
I once went to watch the reserves play when we had Les Sealey in goal.
That was quite the experience in the "shouting player" department.
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A dreary half of football in a dreary league.
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I've had real trouble sleeping recently, usually wide awake at 3.00 am.
No problem dropping off this afternoon.
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Right no more shit second halves. We need to build on first half promise and win this game. We need to win.
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Be our shite 45 please.
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Need to inject some urgency in to the game and get the midfield driving at them.
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Comfortable at the back but too dependent on the two wide men, Westwood and Gardner need to take charge of the game. Kodja looks dangerous but cant see McCormack having too much influence at minute, he's too deep and needs to be in the box as opposed to taking corners. Having said that a bit more luck and he's put us 1-0 up.
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A rousing 45 mins.
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The Ayew bashing is ridiculous. It was his cross that gave Kodjia the header.
Absolutely ridiculous. Done a lot more than McCormack for example
I think the general complaint is that his final decision making isn't the best.
Which is a fair comment.
He's shit
I can't see what on earth he brings
These are not fair enough
It's a match thread. If yoy want considered debate try the Guardian comments section.
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Our style of play does nothing to help the atmosphere, too slow and pedestrian. On the other hand though the crowd have done nothing to help the team, it's silent.
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In between my dozing I did notice that McCormack is possibly the most prolific pointer in the team, not sure what else he does apart from take corners and blast 40 yard free kicks into the wall.
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He's a lot more important than fucking Westwood. Stuck record-you don't win many games with him in the team.
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Too many cooks for me. You've essentially got three number 10's playing. I would take off one of Ayew or McCormack (probably Ross) and bring on Bacuna to give us more width and just get chalk on his boots. That'll allow Grealish to come inside a little more and then Ayew can play where he's itching to, in the middle.
If it's still 0-0 after the hour mark I'd look at big Rudy to come on.
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I'm not saying we've been great or that forest have been anything other than ordinary
But we've not given them a sniff and missed two absolute sitters
We need to improve, but I don't see why everything has to get reduced to absolutes all the time.
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I ate a 300g bag of Peanut M&M's that half, what you going to do about it.
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Another match where I have no idea how we are not winning. Granted we've not been good, however we should have scored at the minimum.
Was really hoping to see Adomah today. His natural pace and width is what we are crying out for.
Early days but I don't think this formation works. If we are going to play Ross and Kodjia it needs to be in a 4312 (may as well until Adomah is fit) push Ross alongside JK and put JG in the hole
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I mean that's pretty much what dominance looks like at this level, only without the goals. Which is a bit of an issue.
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I ate a 300g bag of Peanut M&M's that half, what you going to do about it.
Probably nip down the newsies and buy myself some M&M's.
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Come on Villa we are much the better team we have to win this game.
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I ate a 300g bag of Peanut M&M's that half, what you going to do about it.
Probably nip down the newsies and buy myself some M&M's.
HA HA HA, the newsies!!
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Very reminiscent of some of the home games the last time we were in this league.
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Too many cooks for me. You've essentially got three number 10's playing. I would take off one of Ayew or McCormack (probably Ross) and bring on Bacuna to give us more width and just get chalk on his boots. That'll allow Grealish to come inside a little more and then Ayew can play where he's itching to, in the middle.
If it's still 0-0 after the hour mark I'd look at big Rudy to come on.
I agree. Shame we don't have adomah to come on
I'd probably take McCormack off and put ayew central if we keep on like this
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No idea what system RDM is using but it's not working and I don't like it.
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Need to inject some urgency in to the game and get the midfield driving at them.
This.
The only time we really looked like panicking them was when Gardner charged forward. Other than that it's been rather pedestrian as we've tried to go through the crowd rather than opening them up.
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The vast majority of games this season, the first half has been our good half. We allow teams to get into the game which Forest were showing signs of. I fear the worst in the next 45 mins.
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Love that, Kodjia crossed the ball that made his way to McCormack and Minto comes out with, "there's the possibility of a partnership there".
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I think we're lacking a bit of chemistry but we've been more than decent. Ayew has been one of our biggest threats along with Grealish for me. Elphick has been solid so far too. Gardner has shown a little more too, fair play.
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I see the same pattern developing here.
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Pundits quite liking ayew at half time . . .
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We are going to lose another game we should have pissed all over aren't we?
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I see the same pattern developing here.
Have faith brother, I don't lose a match thread.
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We're slow, ponderous and predictable. Need a spark from somewhere. A goal might help. But now the second half heebie-jeebies are about to descend, and we may come to rue those missed chances again, again, again...
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Pundits quite liking ayew at half time . . .
I sense they know a little more than some ...
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Started well then faded before ending quite strongly. We've just been too predictable and haven't used our pace and width to get back hide them enough. Think they will be happy so far and will feel they can nick something in the second half. I'd give it about ten mins of the second half then make a change if things don't improve. Dull game so far.
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If Adomah is fit for Wednesday then he should come straight in
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Pundits quite liking ayew at half time . . .
His final product has been erratic but he's been our best player so far. Not quite sure why he's suddenly become a panto villain on here. The only problem I see is that he and McCormack can't play together because they both want to influence from the same area.
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They're going to keep thief first clean sheet of the season aren't they?! I think we've been pretty good, dominant. 10 shits only 2 on target!
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Too many cooks for me. You've essentially got three number 10's playing. I would take off one of Ayew or McCormack (probably Ross) and bring on Bacuna to give us more width and just get chalk on his boots. That'll allow Grealish to come inside a little more and then Ayew can play where he's itching to, in the middle.
If it's still 0-0 after the hour mark I'd look at big Rudy to come on.
I agree. Ayew, McCormack and Grealish all effectively doing the same thing. Looks a mess.
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Hopefully attacking the Holte will wake the fans and players up. One goal early on and we'll destroy them.
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Too many cooks for me. You've essentially got three number 10's playing. I would take off one of Ayew or McCormack (probably Ross) and bring on Bacuna to give us more width and just get chalk on his boots. That'll allow Grealish to come inside a little more and then Ayew can play where he's itching to, in the middle.
If it's still 0-0 after the hour mark I'd look at big Rudy to come on.
I agree. Shame we don't have adomah to come on
I'd probably take McCormack off and put ayew central if we keep on like this
Yeah feel bad for Ross. He is the sort of old school centre forward we need and he is being played out of position.
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Grealish is pissing all over them but we are woeful in midfield if I see Westwood pass sideways or back once more I may say a naughty word.
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10 shits only 2 on target!
That's worse than my record.
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Come on Villa. Let's start our promotion run with a win now.
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whats with the harsh comments about Ayew
the best player for us this half
should have had two assists ( RM shoud have scored and good save by keeper from JK ) and easily the most dangerous player for us creating chances
very odd
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They're going to keep thief.. 10 shits only 2 on target!
Let the punathons commence!
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We are going to lose another game we should have pissed all over aren't we?
No killer instinct.
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Grealish is pissing all over them but we are woeful in midfield if I see Westwood pass sideways or back once more I may say a naughty word.
Completely unfair in my view
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Iam sorry but westwood is just not good enough, besides he looks like a little school kid..
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We're not doing much wrong, we just haven't scored.
I'm now concerned that we will do our usual second half disappearing act and end up with nothing.
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Gollini off. Hope it's not serious.
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Gollini off, Bunn on.
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whats with the harsh comments about Ayew
the best player for us this half
should have had two assists ( RM shoud have scored and good save by keeper from JK ) and easily the most dangerous player for us creating chances
very odd
But also 2 bad misses. And only 1 assist. The one across the goal for RM was Kodjia.
Bunn on.
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They're going to keep thief.. 10 shits only 2 on target!
Let the punathons commence!
Not enough runs this half.
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Bunn on. Stop pulling your socks over your knees you tart.
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Sure I saw an orange spot t shirt in the crowd there!
It's a sign!
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They're going to keep thief.. 10 shits only 2 on target!
Let the punathons commence!
Argh! Bloody IPad. Bunn 2nd half.....
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close from RM
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We're not doing much wrong, we just haven't scored.
I'm now concerned that we will do our usual second half disappearing act and end up with nothing.
Me too, but we've got to change that soon. Good start.
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Close again
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Damn.
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Grealish is pissing all over them but we are woeful in midfield if I see Westwood pass sideways or back once more I may say a naughty word.
I think we've largely controlled midfield. Actually Westwood has played a couple of very decent balls in the first half. I think our problems lie in that front 4 at the moment. GG and Westwood are basically doing their job, to hold and control midfield and leave it to the attacking 4 to create who aren't doing quite enough. I'm no Westwood lover by any stretch but he's played well enough for me and Gardner has looked good.
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Got to hit the target there Ross.
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That's the sort of space I want RM to be picking up. He's playing too deep for us.
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Will we ever score or win again?
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Come on Villa please just win.
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No width so far is killing us going forward. Grealish, Ayew and Mccormack getting in each others way a bit. Forest are poor though so bit of patience needed and we should win comfortably.
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Will we ever score or win again?
When we play well but don't do either of those, I wonder exactly the same myself.
Imagine what it must feel like winning, say, two or three games in a row.
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Ayew did great until the finish again. Frustrating as hell.
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Will we ever score or win again?
When we play well but don't do either of those, I wonder exactly the same myself.
Imagine what it must feel like winning, say, two or three games in a row.
I fantasise about it in my mind.
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De Laet could be Albrightons brother.
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We've been pleasingly assured at the back.
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We've been pleasingly assured at the back.
We're all thinking it but don't bloody say it out loud!!
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We've been pleasingly assured at the back.
We're all thinking it but don't bloody say it out loud!!
Shite...
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Will we ever score or win again?
When we play well but don't do either of those, I wonder exactly the same myself.
Imagine what it must feel like winning, say, two or three games in a row.
I fantasise about it in my mind.
I fantasise about Grealish and Shaqiri having a calf off.
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We're pretty good in possession of the ball but don't show enough urgency for my liking.
No doubt we'll continue playing well only for Forest have one bounce in off a passing pigeon.
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We need to up the tempo, it's too easy for Forest to readjust.
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Can't help but feel that Forrest missing players have worked against us. They've been so unadventurous and offered no space in behind.
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Can we let Tom Fox into the ground, generate some sort of atmosphere.
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one thing we should be winning this
they are a poor team today Forest
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Remember how Huddersfield simply forced us to concede? That's what we have to do to Forest now. Just force it in, blood and thunder style.
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We need to press the ball more as a unit
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Kodjie will end up like Benteke in a few years thinking why did I join this crap.
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I'm thinking gestede and bacuna for McCormack and de laet
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Come on Villa.
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gardners passing is awful at times
you fuck
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Oh quelle fucking surprise.
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Fucks sake.
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For fucks sake.
If we didn't have bad luck, we would have no luck at all.
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When is this shit ever, ever going to end?
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Gardner you tosser
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Well done Gaz
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wGary fuckingh GArdner
fucking awful
playing for forest
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There you go and it all comes from an awful Gardner pass.
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It never ends.
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Gary fuckin Gardner
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I walk in the room and Forest score
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We are absolutely cursed.
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Fucking brilliant
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McCormack will start to get pissed with Jordan
It's 'pissed off'.
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Fucks...
Sake...
Sloppy. And then just bang. One hit...back of the net. Wish we could do that.
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Fucking hell
That's literally their first attack of the game
Gardner has started giving the ball away
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If you shoot you can score, simple eh?
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Wow. Fuck.
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Garbage.
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Useless twats.
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When is this shit ever, ever going to end?
We'll be closer to going down this season than we will be to going up. Utter, utter fucking shit.
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We really do have two god awful front line goalkeepers
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Keeper should save that for me
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Gardner just isn't good enough.
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Woodwork yet again.
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ayew hits woodwork
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Well that's that. We don't do winning when behind
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Hi Woodwork
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Fucks sake. We have absolutely no luck ever.
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Gardner lost it a long way forward. But look at Westwood's pathetic attempt to hold his man up. He just gets beaten so easily. He's a total defensive liability. If you're going to play in midfield and be that shit at defending, you should be creating and scoring a lot of goals.
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Bun should have stopped that
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Bar.
17 times and counting this season. Seriously how fucking unlucky are we???
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No more fannying around. If you have space to shoot, shoot. Space to cross then cross it. Lets get Rudy on too.
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How many times have we hit the woodwork this season
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Right Di Matteo, time for some fucking changes, this is very far from bring fucking acceptable.
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I genuinely think we're cursed
It's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous
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Gardner. Just f**k off.
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McCormack will start to get pissed with Jordan
It's 'pissed off'.
Not if they're drinking buddies it isn't.
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We have to respond and win this game.
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Gardner lost it a long way forward. But look at Westwood's pathetic attempt to hold his man up. He just gets beaten so easily. He's a total defensive liability. If you're going to play in midfield and be that shit at defending, you should be creating and scoring a lot of goals.
It's almost as if Westwood and Gardner are both shite.
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Gardners been ok until that, and had a couple of decent efforts. Jack has given the ball away more than that, keeps running inside and into dead ends
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Gardner lost it a long way forward. But look at Westwood's pathetic attempt to hold his man up. He just gets beaten so easily. He's a total defensive liability. If you're going to play in midfield and be that shit at defending, you should be creating and scoring a lot of goals.
Yep no strength whatsoever
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Too laboured.
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It finished centrally but can't blame keeper I don't think. Hell of a lot of swerve. We're not going to win now. Can't decide if we're unlucky or shit.
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Gardner just isn't good enough.
Having given the ball away, his attempt at a recovery was pretty lame.
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I miss Benteke.
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Think the manager has gotten it totally wrong today. Think we could do with changing something. With only got ourselves to blame Forest's game plan is working to perfection. Need to score soon if we have a chance of turning it around.
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Go on Kod you beast.
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We've been pleasingly assured at the back.
Good work.
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I'm afraid there isn't a chance in hell we can win this.
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We just have to respond and win. Fucking man up Villa.
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We just need to keep in control here, not starting panicking. Get Rudy or Bacuna on, switch the formation a little and we'll get back in it.
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Fucking hell! I just watched the first half in a bar up the road from ours. Spent €12 on lunch, €18 on beer, get home and boom, 0-1 to Forest (as I predicted in the pre-match thread). Fuck off everything!
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What gets me is that with us, half an hour to go, one goal down, we have absolutely ZERO chance of coming back and winning, yet when the positions are reversed, we pretty much never hold on.
We're just so fucking weak, it feels like it will never end.
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Gestede isn't my favourite player but he'd give us a different option
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save from header kodju
fuck
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McCormack, Ayew and Kodija cost £35m between them.
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Bastard
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Their keeper is going to have the fucking game of his life now isn't he. Why do we fucking bother.
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No luck ever.
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Couple of good headers from Kodija today. Rudy will get some joy against their CH's I think.
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I wonder how patient a man Dr Tony is?
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holding villas no 12 there
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gardner off thank fuck
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Gardner off for Gestede? No midfield at all!?!?
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Too much fucking tippy tappy shite.
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gardner off thank fuck
He's truly dreadful.
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Amavi for Cissokho I reckon, need width to get behind these
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Westwood alone in midfield??? Erm...
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One in midfield now......
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I think Gardner was actually decent today. Had a bad spell though
Who's playing midfield now??!
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Gardner off for Gestede? No midfield at all!?!?
Where we're going we don't need a midfield.
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This game is made for Rudy. Come on villa ffs
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once Tish and Jedi get in midfield
Ill be happier
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Gardner off for Gestede? No midfield at all!?!?
No midfield at all is better than a midfield with Gardner in it.
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I think Gardner was actually decent today. Had a bad spell though
Who's playing midfield now??!
Gave away two passes, one of which we sadly got punished for.
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I wonder how patient a man Dr Tony is?
He's going to have to wait two years at least before he sees a Premier League game at Villa Park.
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Fucking donkey Gardener is, crap player. Stupid formation incoming?
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You can shoot from outside the box Jack.
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Gardner off for Gestede? No midfield at all!?!?
Where we're going we don't need a midfield.
Hoof ball it is then
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Bradford esque substitution there from RDM
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fuck
again close
great cross
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What gets me is that with us, half an hour to go, one goal down, we have absolutely ZERO chance of coming back and winning, yet when the positions are reversed, we pretty much never hold on.
We're just so fucking weak, it feels like it will never end.
I just don't get it new owner, manager, and the most expensively assembled squad in the Championship yet same mentality
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once Tish and Jedi get in midfield
Ill be happier
I agree but that's not been the main issue for me today. It's been some bad luck, a lack of dynamism, and no effective width
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That Forest right back looks alright. Worth a bid in January?
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once Tish and Jedi get in midfield
Ill be happier
How many points off the business end of the table will we be by then?
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I wonder how patient a man Dr Tony is?
I was wondering that myself, but seeing as he was Xia's pick he's going to get time. As shit as this is important to note that last season Burnley were nowhere near promotion at Christmas and had a stunning second half of the season. I can see us being a much better second half of the season side. Granted there is an element of clutching at whatever straws I can in my argument.
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its never going in
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Seriously, we are genuinely fucking cursed.
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once Tish and Jedi get in midfield
Ill be happier
How many points off the business end of the table will we be by then?
20
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Aaaaaarggggh
Come on villa
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Let's see if these fucking pussies can man up and try to fight and will themselves back in to a game. Play like winning bloody matters, too much complacency when we are on top.
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They've had a bout 70 players booked, one has got to see a red soon.
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Seriously, we are genuinely fucking cursed.
We may need to have a whip round to buy a couple of goats and have it sacrificed outside the ground before the Brentford game.
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another save from RM
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Another great save
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Could do with bacuna or Amavi on. They're our best crossers
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And again, unbelievable.
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Battering them now, COME ON!!!
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Yessssssssssssss!
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
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goal
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Have we scored?
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Yessssxxs
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Get the fuck in.
McCormack. Something had to go the fuck in didn't it
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Get in. About fucking time!!!
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YEAHHHHHHHHHH
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Yes
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NOW FUCKING WIN IT, VILLA!
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Get in finally. Now win the fucking game.
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Fuck me, we have plenty of time to win this now
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Right let's win this fucker.
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Get in.
Game on. Good goal. It has actually been coming.
Own up though...which one of you just killed a goat?
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Get in
Not seen it yet as my steam must be slow
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Win it.
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Well done Ayew
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Now go and get all three points, you massive thundercunts, come ON!
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FUCKINNNNNG COME ONNNNNNN go on and win this now drive these bastards in to the ground.
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Rossssssssssssss, about fucking time, great work from Ayew
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Ayew the best player on the pitch by a mile today for me
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Get in! Now lets win this
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Ayew has been outstanding second half
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Thank fuck for that
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YESSS!!! Come on Villa!
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I went outside and killed my Gardner
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Jedinak time. Get him on, tighten the center and keep pushing forward and getting wide.
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Come on now Villa .... GOAL
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Everything good we've done has been Ayew.
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Ruuuuuuuudyyyyyyyyy!
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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goal
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OOooooohhhhh RudYyyyY
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Whaaazazzzzt!?
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GET FUCKING IN!
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YESSSSSSSS
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Gettttttt Innnn
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Ruddydinho?
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FUCKING YES, YES, YES, YES!
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Ayew you beauty two assists and a brilliant goal by Rudy. Now a third please.
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2-1
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Shit that Ayew
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When did Gestede turn into Messi?
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yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees theyve blooody done it fucking yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
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Hahahaha
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yes that Ayew is crap
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"And then Gestede scored with a bicycle kick".
WTF?
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Three now please.
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Get the fuck in you fucking fucker
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Oh fucking hell! Don't fucking lose this now?
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If we end up winning this by not really playing that good everything will look so much better.
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GESTEDE!!!!!!!
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Shit that Ayew
Sorry Jordan!
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Now, don't fuck it up, please.
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What a goal!!!!!! I
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Gardner off for Gestede? No midfield at all!?!?
Where we're going we don't need a midfield.
Told you ;)
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What a finish.
Don't care who we have bought, this guy, at home, has to play, hes a demon in the championship.
GET JEDINAK ON NOW FFS IN MIDFIELD
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I love Rudy. The big man gets stick but I love him. He's a trier and he'll bang them in for fun this year.
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Pele Gestede.
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Ayew again with the run and cross.
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What a finish.
Don't care who we have bought, this guy, at home, has to play, hes a demon in the championship.
GET JEDINAK ON NOW FFS IN MIDFIELD
Yep - Jedinak for grealish or McCormack
Ayew motm by a mile
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"And then Gestede scored with a bicycle kick".
WTF?
Crazy.
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Character.
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Let's see this out now
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We don't do this, teams do this to us! Come on villa!
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Needless free kicks aren't the way to go.
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That touch by Ayew, quality.
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we have keep going at them and finish this off. None of this itchy bum stuff again.
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My god
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Let's see this out now
More goals though... just to be sure.
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Kodija has a goal in him today I think. Lets bugger these fuckers.
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Ayew MOTM easily for me
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How many of you are sitting there shitting yourselves about a weak Forest equaliser?
Yes. Me too.
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Lovely touch from Ayew. He has played much more for the team this second half, hence the assists.
Unlucky Kodjia, he looks quality.
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Kod is a beast .. the new beast.
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I'm dying for a shit but can't help worrying I might then return and see we've conceded.
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Can we get Jedinak on please. Lack of midfield is going to hurt us here.
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I'm impressed with kodjia deserves a goal
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I'm dying for a shit but can't help worrying I might then return and see we've conceded.
Hope you hit the target better than 10 out of 2.
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Get Jedinak on and Jack off, shut up shop FFS
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I'm dying for a shit but can't help worrying I might then return and see we've conceded.
Do you have an empty crisp packet or something to hand?
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I'm dying for a shit but can't help worrying I might then return and see we've conceded.
Do you have an empty crisp packet or something to hand?
Ever seen the South Park World of Warcraft episode? Might go that way.
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I'm dying for a shit but can't help worrying I might then return and see we've conceded.
H&V tradition is that bowel evacuations usually lead to the poster missing a goal for us. Go and crimp off a length.
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Well, that's the "Best Acrobatic Volley by Champion the Wonder Horse" end-of-season award sorted.
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That was the best cross I've seen Cissokho put in since he's been here.
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I feel like we need a third here.
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I feel like we need a third here.
Paulie needs a turd as Roy Keane would say.
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That touch by Ayew, quality.
We've seen Ayew in a nutshell today and it was what we were told by the internet scouts when we signed him. A mixture of frustrating, erratic and brilliant. If he was consistent he'd be playing for a CL club, but he's not and we've got him here. He has to play for me because he creates. It doesn't come off everytime but he keeps on trying and eventually something good happens. Most of our chances today have come through him.
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I feel like we need a third here.
Let's live a little and get 4.
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I feel like we need a third here.
Paulie does
Too slow!
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I feel like we need a third here.
Fixed
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I roared so loudly for the second that I woke She-who-must-be-obeyed up from her afternoon nap on the settee. She has now flounced off to the bedroom while texting a divorce lawyer. I just can't win.
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We could all do with a Richard the.
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If Ayew plays to help others and play them in, then he is going to win us a lot of games and end with a lot of assists. He just needs to keep his head up.
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Please villa
Just please
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Kodija looks really very good.
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We need some midfield.
Kodjia is a quality player.
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I like old Kodjia.
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I will settle for a late Douglas Hurd
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Kodjia looks a lot more skilful than I'd anticipated
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Give us a Thora.
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Kodija has looked quality today. RDM has a selection headache now because big Rudy and RM have scored today. Grealish and Ayew have played well.
It's nice to have a selection headache.
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calm down girls
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Don't play for the bloody corner now Villa.
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Jesus.
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Fuck off
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Vintage Villa.
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Get the fuck out of here
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Kodija has looked quality today. RDM has a selection headache now because big Rudy and RM have scored today. Grealish and Ayew have played well.
It's nice to have a selection headache.
I think Gestede a super option to have off the bench at this level. Completely different type of player. I would certainly have RM and Kodjia as first choice and have them develop a chemistry and understanding with each other.
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For fucks sake. RDM should take the blame for that.
No midfield, and walked through
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And there you go.
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Fuck sake.
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Ropey haired ******
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Fuck it!
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How many of you are sitting there shitting yourselves about a weak Forest equaliser?
Yes. Me too.
Oh no.
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JUST FUCKING BELIEVABLE.
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And he's off!
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Bollocks
-
Eh?
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Laughably weak in the middle.
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Oh Villa.
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Played through a midfield that's not there
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Ah classic villa... could see the finishing line and decided to go for tea before crossing it.
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FFS
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Fuck the fuckers.
They've done two things today and scored.
RDM dropped a bollock not getting Jedinak on 10 minutes ago.
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Fucking hell. Fucking fucking hell.
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Fucking terrible, terrible defending.
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For fucks sake. RDM should take the blame for that.
No midfield, and walked through
Complete madness not making a sub to stiffen midfield. Definitely his fault
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Gonna piss this league.......
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Come on, last second winner
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The luck that the Cissokho challenge goes straight to their man is just typical though.
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This is another game we could have put to bed long before now. Hit the woodwork twice, wasted good chances. Fucking hell.
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cissokho
damn
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Fuck the fuckers.
They've done two things today and scored.
RDM dropped a bollock not getting Jedinak on 10 minutes ago.
Yep, unless he's not really fit
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Of all the players we have on the pitch, who do you least want that chance to fall to? Yep. Cissokho
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Gonna piss this league.......
which nobody ever said. Most people were cautiously optimistic and that we need to get some momentum along with the right signings. It has to come together and it just hasn't yet.
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5 mins extra
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Fuck the fuckers.
They've done two things today and scored.
RDM dropped a bollock not getting Jedinak on 10 minutes ago.
Yep, unless he's not really fit
Even Bacuna would be better than...well...no one. And Ross is breathing out his ass.
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Gonna piss this league.......
which nobody ever said. Most people were cautiously optimistic and that we need to get some momentum along with the right signings. It has to come together and it just hasn't yet.
Ads did in no uncertain terms.
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Fuck the fuckers.
They've done two things today and scored.
RDM dropped a bollock not getting Jedinak on 10 minutes ago.
Yep, unless he's not really fit
If he's not fit don't put him on the bench and our Lyden there
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22 shots for us, 2 for them. They've been efficient if nothing else FFS
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Grealish needs to learn how to shoot.
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Fucking hell we could have won 5 games on the chances we have had.
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Gutted. Just gutted
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And the nob in Ayew comes out.
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Aargh
Great chance that. Did well to get a head on it
Not our day but we'll get there.
They literally had two attacks and one of them wasn't even a real chance
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Just anothr day of the Villa VooDoo.
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I am sick of spending the last 20 minutes of a game waiting for the opposition to score, it is beyond a joke
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We played well. We created enough chances to win half a dozen games. On play alone we're one of the best sides in the division.
And we're 17th.
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Play like that in the second half in 3 days time with Tshibola and Jedinak in the centre and we'll stuff Brentford.
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We played well. We created enough chances to win half a dozen games. On play alone we're one of the best sides in the division.
And we're 17th.
this
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6pts from 6 games is definitely not good enough. There needs to be more urgency to our play, too much of it in the middle is going nowhere, there's no threat out wide so everything comes through the middle all laboured as two of our worst players happen to be the midfield.
Disappointing as well to see us fold and concede late, again, and also tactically we should have threw on the additional midfielder when we got our noses in front to stiffen things up instead of continuing with 5 attacking players, knowing how mentally weak we still appear to be.
Watch the two goals from Forest and it's blindingly obvious that the teams achilles heel is the heart of the side in the middle, we need to get Jedinak and Tshibola up to speed asap because Gardner and Westwood even at this level are poor. The two of them directly involved in the first we conceded one playing a terrible ball and the other being pushed out of the way and beaten when a stronger midfielder would have broken up the play there and then. He's a little girl. We need a tough bugger in there.
Very disappointed, same old same old again.
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Forest - 2 attacks and 2 goals from a bunch of loathsome, cheating, cynical bastards.
Us - Not enough urgency 1st half, not enough urgency from Grealish throughout, it was like watching him last season. Ayew MOTM, the forwards looked good when we pressed harder and got them more involved. Bunn probably could have done better with their first. Everyone else neither here nor there.
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You can see how much sides panic when we're attacking - we're not getting the break of the ball (like Forest had today, twice) in attacking situations and in particular the penalty area. I'm convinced that part of the not scoring lies in the way we let teams off easily when we've just had a decent chance; penning a side like Brentford or even that shower today in their own box and you'd see too many chances to keep them all out. And if Ayew could put his head up more, that would be fab too.
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Forest - 2 attacks and 2 goals from a bunch of loathsome, cheating, cynical bastards.
Us - Not enough urgency 1st half, not enough urgency from Grealish throughout, it was like watching him last season. Ayew MOTM, the forwards looked good when we pressed harder and got them more involved. Bunn probably could have done better with their first. Everyone else neither here nor there.
Lansbury in particular looked like a smug, horrible c***
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Rdm needs to be told about the last 5mins gypsy curse.
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Most one sided draw I've ever seen, our luck must change soon