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Title: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 10, 2016, 10:55:17 PM
Less than three days until our next game, you lucky people!

Everyone else has started a match thread, to no avail, so thought I might as well have a go.

This is the first match on the way back, we'll look back on this as the turning point... honest.

Villa 4 (McCormack 12, 26, 65, Ayew 53)
Rotherham 0

It will be. Really. Won't it?  :-[
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 10, 2016, 10:57:21 PM
Need a win desperately to understand its possible. They're a poor side and will probably go down so the opportunity is there and against Huddersfield to breathe life back into the club again.

Any win by any score, just win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on August 10, 2016, 11:01:41 PM
We need a helping hand to win. Perhaps a sending off or a dodgy penalty or two? Can't see us getting a 1-0 with our confidence so low. I thought we might do better away from the nervousness of the villa home crowd but clearly not! I'm going for a nervy and dull draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris_Jephcott on August 10, 2016, 11:01:43 PM
Do we have to??? I'm only just hurting after tonight's debacle!

I'm going to plump for a 3-0 Rotherham victory with Micah Richards having an amusing incident with a stoat being the root cause of the 3rd.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 10, 2016, 11:03:51 PM
A win, any win just fecking win!

P.s. Do not pick Micah Richards. Or Gary Gardner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on August 10, 2016, 11:14:17 PM
We're still not ready for this season. In fact it looks like we are going backwards.

We will improve but for now - 2-0 to the mighty Rotherham.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on August 10, 2016, 11:22:09 PM
think we'll win this too. scappy 1-0, the result being more important than the performance. RDM has learned the hard way about our squad the last two games, and i think if push comes to shove its not going to be him losing his job.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on August 10, 2016, 11:24:07 PM
Some players from last season are going to get absolute pelters from the stands if things don't go well from early on.

Hope Gollini has a solid game anyway, needs to put that mistake behind him quickly, was very impressed with him otherwise.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dl9 on August 10, 2016, 11:31:51 PM
Always a big event when United come to town!

Aston is buzzing as we await the arrival of the Titans from Rotherham.

One things for sure, little old Aston Villa will have to be at their best if they are to face up to these guys.

Let's get behind our boys, we may not be professionals like The Millers but I'm sure the Villa players will want to go back to their day jobs on Monday 15th with a degree of pride for their colleagues in the office, on the bin round or in the staff canteen at Shit R Us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on August 10, 2016, 11:34:32 PM
Some players from last season are going to get absolute pelters from the stands if things don't go well from early on.

Hope Gollini has a solid game anyway, needs to put that mistake behind him quickly, was very impressed with him otherwise.

From what I saw /heard bacuna got some in last match and he had a coy smile at fans.  I'm not too sure where to go with that as how can be react to 1000 of mainly men abusing him.  Yes he was pretty bloody dier last season but this first matcg get behind him if he fails then he get called out.  He was actually had other day but he 'll be a scapegoat and he'll have to go too I imagime. Gardner isn't part of the suicide squad  and give that guy a break. I don't think Richards will be near the team on Saturday he's just downtrodden and hutton I believe it's mystical he's even a trier he's very odd playing abilities and it's insulting and embrassinv so total get that these and bacuna would be basically abuse out of villa quick as !
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on August 10, 2016, 11:34:45 PM
A Bluenose mate who obviously knows Rotherham well tells me they are a very physical side. Gulp! Being bullied by Rotherham at home sounds a bit shit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on August 10, 2016, 11:56:35 PM
Villa 0 Rotherham 2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on August 11, 2016, 12:00:14 AM
A Bluenose mate who obviously knows Rotherham well tells me they are a very physical side. Gulp! Being bullied by Rotherham at home sounds a bit shit.

What with our tissue paper mentality that does not bode well at all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on August 11, 2016, 12:17:32 AM
I'm dreading it. We will concede and the inevitable collapse will happen.

I've never supported a team of "players" that I despise so much as this lot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 11, 2016, 12:34:55 AM
It all starts well when Gabby and Richards are paraded around the pitch as two halves of a pantomime donkey, before being launched out of Villa Park in a cannon.

Tony Xia announces 3 ace signings, and we win 12-0.

Or back in reality we scab a 2-1 win and start to improve.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on August 11, 2016, 12:55:31 AM
1-1 home to Rotherham...can't believe I am saying that....I fear for the players if we go one down...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 11, 2016, 01:11:22 AM
Guess the crowd might be better served as guess the empty seats. We'll win this one 3-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on August 11, 2016, 01:44:44 AM
Can't figure out what all the doom and gloom is about...look at the stats...we haven't lost at home in the league yet this season!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 02:07:49 AM
Taking my 7 year old nephew to this. It's his first game.

I assume in 20 years time he'll be talking at length about it to his therapist
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on August 11, 2016, 03:12:53 AM
Sadly I think we'll score first then lose 1-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on August 11, 2016, 06:02:03 AM
I know Westwood, Baker, Hutton, Cissokho, Bacuna and the Blackpool beach Donkey will be playing, therefore with only a team of 5 I fully expect to lose again.

Forgot Gardner, it's easy to do so, make that a team of 4. Shite.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on August 11, 2016, 07:33:01 AM
This gives me the fear, I don't know if I can handle seeing us lose to Luton and Rotherham only a few days apart.
What I do know about this match is I am aiming for considerable alcohol consumption prior
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on August 11, 2016, 07:41:37 AM
I fully expect that we'll lose this game...but would an unlikely win paper over the huge cracks, or is it already blatantly obvious that we have a squad of shit? Whatever the result, players need to go and replaced with quality players with ability and attitude. Can we sign 10 more Elphicks please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on August 11, 2016, 07:43:28 AM
Get gollini,elphick back in the defence should help. 1-0 villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 11, 2016, 08:04:12 AM
It's got 0-0 written all over it.  I think alcohol in the Villa dressing room might help.  A bit of Dutch courage.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2016, 08:13:01 AM
3-1 win. Anderson, Rudge , Stobart.

http://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-rotherham-united-26-august-1967-113383/


(https://guideimg.alibaba.com/images/shop/85/10/29/9/aston-villa-v-rotherham-and-plymouth-1967-68-division-2_1978589.JPG)

 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 11, 2016, 08:23:39 AM
Rotherham United 1 Aston Villa 3  Valentine's Day 1953.  Dave Walsh hat trick if memory serves.  Millmoor.  What a dump *Bette Davis voice. Rolls eyes*
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on August 11, 2016, 08:24:37 AM
This is where the road back begins. We will win on Saturday 2-1 - Tshibola and McCormack for us, some random for them.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2016, 08:31:16 AM
Rotherham United 1 Aston Villa 3  Valentine's Day 1953.  Dave Walsh hat trick if memory serves.  Millmoor.  What a dump *Bette Davis voice. Rolls eyes*

http://www.11v11.com/matches/rotherham-united-v-aston-villa-14-february-1953-210366/
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on August 11, 2016, 08:31:56 AM
It feels at the moment that if Rotherham just turn up organised and willing to work hard in midfield the game is theirs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on August 11, 2016, 08:40:41 AM
I'd play 5 in midfield to cover our defence and make up for not having any dominant midfielder in there. Surely 2 or 3 of them together can make a decent show of trying to win the ball. Forget trying to play ayew, McCormack and Gestade in the same team. Won't work. In fact Gestede doesn't work full stop
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 11, 2016, 08:40:52 AM
Thank you ALita. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 08:42:28 AM
As long as Richards and Okore are nowhere near the back four then we have a chance. At this point I'd take Bacuna over Hutton.

Gardner can't be anywhere near the squad either and it would be nice to see another midfielder come in to give everybody a lift.

We need a win and Rotherham are a poor side. It's on a plate asking for it and it looks like it will be down to Elphick to drag the side mentally through it.

Winning games, especially at home, is the only way mentally to avert the impression of England's middle order on a 1990s tour of Australia and the inevitable collapse that follows the slightest of set back.

We have to best Rotherham and Huddersfield. No ifs or buts, we have to best them.

RDM has to have learnt a lot from last night about four or five players. He should do himself a favour and pick Amavi, Baker, Elphick and Bacuna at the back. He should bring Westwood into the middle with Tshibola. Xia should put his hand in his pocket and target six players between now and the windows close;

Centre forward to replace Gestede
Centre half on the left to be first pick over Baker
Right back
Creative midfielder
Defensive midfielder
Winger

A lot of work, but the money is there, the inclination must be there too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on August 11, 2016, 08:43:29 AM
I know Westwood, Baker, Hutton, Cissokho, Bacuna and the Blackpool beach Donkey will be playing, therefore with only a team of 5 I fully expect to lose again.

Forgot Gardner, it's easy to do so, make that a team of 4. Shite.

Depressingly accurate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 11, 2016, 08:48:02 AM
I'm coming up for this one, I have no idea what to expect. Heart says Elphick coming back will make a big difference and a decentish crowd will encourage the team on to a  win. Head says they'll come to stone wall, bully us and win with a goal from a defending or goalkeeping mistake as opposed to anything they do themselves.
Sod it, the heart wins, 3-1 Villa and Gestede to get a brace with two headers from corners.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on August 11, 2016, 09:10:13 AM
I suppose last night guarantees the return of Bacuna And Westwood for this game

unfortunately it doesn't seem to matter what players we pick or formation they play in, who the manager is, who the owner is,  what league the opposition play in, we still can't stop losing football games
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 11, 2016, 09:26:25 AM
As long as Richards and Okore are nowhere near the back four then we have a chance. At this point I'd take Bacuna over Hutton.

Gardner can't be anywhere near the squad either and it would be nice to see another midfielder come in to give everybody a lift.

We need a win and Rotherham are a poor side. It's on a plate asking for it and it looks like it will be down to Elphick to drag the side mentally through it.

Winning games, especially at home, is the only way mentally to avert the impression of England's middle order on a 1990s tour of Australia and the inevitable collapse that follows the slightest of set back.

We have to best Rotherham and Huddersfield. No ifs or buts, we have to best them.

RDM has to have learnt a lot from last night about four or five players. He should do himself a favour and pick Amavi, Baker, Elphick and Bacuna at the back. He should bring Westwood into the middle with Tshibola. Xia should put his hand in his pocket and target six players between now and the windows close;

Centre forward to replace Gestede
Centre half on the left to be first pick over Baker
Right back
Creative midfielder
Defensive midfielder
Winger

A lot of work, but the money is there, the inclination must be there too.

Aren't we shelling out roughly a million pounds an hour for some ex-Barcelona wonderkid and don't we have our own home grown wonderkid, reputedly the next best thing since George Best.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 09:33:13 AM
Its £2 million every time we mention his name. £3.5 if we mention him in an oblique way.

Grealish, Green and Traore are all youngsters. They're talented, but somebody older and who isn't the equivalent of an empty crisp packet blowing up the line would be nice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on August 11, 2016, 09:38:27 AM
As long as Richards and Okore are nowhere near the back four then we have a chance. At this point I'd take Bacuna over Hutton.

Gardner can't be anywhere near the squad either and it would be nice to see another midfielder come in to give everybody a lift.

We need a win and Rotherham are a poor side. It's on a plate asking for it and it looks like it will be down to Elphick to drag the side mentally through it.

Winning games, especially at home, is the only way mentally to avert the impression of England's middle order on a 1990s tour of Australia and the inevitable collapse that follows the slightest of set back.

We have to best Rotherham and Huddersfield. No ifs or buts, we have to best them.

RDM has to have learnt a lot from last night about four or five players. He should do himself a favour and pick Amavi, Baker, Elphick and Bacuna at the back. He should bring Westwood into the middle with Tshibola. Xia should put his hand in his pocket and target six players between now and the windows close;

Centre forward to replace Gestede
Centre half on the left to be first pick over Baker
Right back
Creative midfielder
Defensive midfielder
Winger

A lot of work, but the money is there, the inclination must be there too.

Aren't we shelling out roughly a million pounds an hour for some ex-Barcelona wonderkid and don't we have our own home grown wonderkid, reputedly the next best thing since George Best.


that's what makes me larf really. If a young player leaves Man U say or Juventus he's probably not good enough. If it's Barca, he's a mixture of Messi and Ronaldo that they've decided to gift some lucky club with
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 11, 2016, 09:43:27 AM
Its £2 million every time we mention his name. £3.5 if we mention him in an oblique way.

Grealish, Green and Traore are all youngsters. They're talented, but somebody older and who isn't the equivalent of an empty crisp packet blowing up the line would be nice.

Oh well, that's 7 million I have personally wasted of our money on the f##king amazing vanishing man who laughingly had the privilege of watching Messi at close hand.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 09:49:44 AM
As long as Richards and Okore are nowhere near the back four then we have a chance. At this point I'd take Bacuna over Hutton.

Gardner can't be anywhere near the squad either and it would be nice to see another midfielder come in to give everybody a lift.

We need a win and Rotherham are a poor side. It's on a plate asking for it and it looks like it will be down to Elphick to drag the side mentally through it.

Winning games, especially at home, is the only way mentally to avert the impression of England's middle order on a 1990s tour of Australia and the inevitable collapse that follows the slightest of set back.

We have to best Rotherham and Huddersfield. No ifs or buts, we have to best them.

RDM has to have learnt a lot from last night about four or five players. He should do himself a favour and pick Amavi, Baker, Elphick and Bacuna at the back. He should bring Westwood into the middle with Tshibola. Xia should put his hand in his pocket and target six players between now and the windows close;

Centre forward to replace Gestede
Centre half on the left to be first pick over Baker
Right back
Creative midfielder
Defensive midfielder
Winger

A lot of work, but the money is there, the inclination must be there too.

Aren't we shelling out roughly a million pounds an hour for some ex-Barcelona wonderkid and don't we have our own home grown wonderkid, reputedly the next best thing since George Best.


that's what makes me larf really. If a young player leaves Man U say or Juventus he's probably not good enough.

Like Pogba. Larf.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on August 11, 2016, 09:51:50 AM
2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on August 11, 2016, 09:53:08 AM
As long as Richards and Okore are nowhere near the back four then we have a chance. At this point I'd take Bacuna over Hutton.

Gardner can't be anywhere near the squad either and it would be nice to see another midfielder come in to give everybody a lift.

We need a win and Rotherham are a poor side. It's on a plate asking for it and it looks like it will be down to Elphick to drag the side mentally through it.

Winning games, especially at home, is the only way mentally to avert the impression of England's middle order on a 1990s tour of Australia and the inevitable collapse that follows the slightest of set back.

We have to best Rotherham and Huddersfield. No ifs or buts, we have to best them.

RDM has to have learnt a lot from last night about four or five players. He should do himself a favour and pick Amavi, Baker, Elphick and Bacuna at the back. He should bring Westwood into the middle with Tshibola. Xia should put his hand in his pocket and target six players between now and the windows close;

Centre forward to replace Gestede
Centre half on the left to be first pick over Baker
Right back
Creative midfielder
Defensive midfielder
Winger

A lot of work, but the money is there, the inclination must be there too.

Aren't we shelling out roughly a million pounds an hour for some ex-Barcelona wonderkid and don't we have our own home grown wonderkid, reputedly the next best thing since George Best.


that's what makes me larf really. If a young player leaves Man U say or Juventus he's probably not good enough.

Like Pogba. Larf.

Did Pogba only play once for Juventus then?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 09:54:12 AM
No, he left Man United. Now he's left Juventus. If they leave those two clubs then they're probably not good enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on August 11, 2016, 09:58:55 AM
No, he left Man United. Now he's left Juventus. If they leave those two clubs then they're probably not good enough.

You're comparing  23 year old, 150 games Pogba to 20 year old 1 game Traore.? No wonder you have high hopes for Grealish
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 10:03:40 AM
No I'm making light of a nonsensical point.

I couldn't careless that he came from Barca B. Every 56 minutes he's on the pitch he either scores or creates in a shite team. If we could tape him up and get him on the pitch, his unbelievable pace would cause every single defence in this league a problem, because the common trend in the Championship is the absence of pace at the back.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on August 11, 2016, 10:05:39 AM
No I'm making light of a nonsensical point.

I couldn't careless that he came from Barca B. Every 56 minutes he's on the pitch he either scores or creates in a shite team. If we could tape him up and get him on the pitch, his unbelievable pace would cause every single defence in this league a problem, because the common trend in the Championship is the absence of pace at the back.

who are we talking about now. Pogba?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: RussellC on August 11, 2016, 10:06:28 AM
No I'm making light of a nonsensical point.

I couldn't careless that he came from Barca B. Every 56 minutes he's on the pitch he either scores or creates in a shite team. If we could tape him up and get him on the pitch, his unbelievable pace would cause every single defence in this league a problem, because the common trend in the Championship is the absence of pace at the back.



And if this point needed to be highlighted any more, look at the damage that Luton's left winger did to us last night. a very average winger with a bit of pace caused our back 4 untold problems.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 10:08:11 AM
No I'm making light of a nonsensical point.

I couldn't careless that he came from Barca B. Every 56 minutes he's on the pitch he either scores or creates in a shite team. If we could tape him up and get him on the pitch, his unbelievable pace would cause every single defence in this league a problem, because the common trend in the Championship is the absence of pace at the back.

who are we talking about now. Pogba?

Straw man arguments. Larf.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sickbeggar on August 11, 2016, 10:09:28 AM
No I'm making light of a nonsensical point.

I couldn't careless that he came from Barca B. Every 56 minutes he's on the pitch he either scores or creates in a shite team. If we could tape him up and get him on the pitch, his unbelievable pace would cause every single defence in this league a problem, because the common trend in the Championship is the absence of pace at the back.

who are we talking about now. Pogba?

Straw man arguments. Larf.

I don't think even his agent would claim that Ads

or Pogba's for that matter
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 11, 2016, 10:11:57 AM
Anyone still think we're going to stroll to the title this season? Time to admit that we're still an absolute fucking shambles and to use the next couple of weeks to try and rectify it. 16 winless games in a row for us, stretching back to fucking February.

We need half a dozen new players ASAP and to sack/sell/drop/have put down pretty much every one of last season's first team leaches. And the next tweet I want to see from Xia is to announce another new signing.

Oh, I'll go for a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on August 11, 2016, 10:17:36 AM
Rotherham may be a poor side but if they are organised and determined they'll beat us for sure.

Until we sort out the mental problem by purge or other means, can't see us winning any game in the near future.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on August 11, 2016, 10:57:19 AM
I've gone for a home win because I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on August 11, 2016, 10:58:52 AM
Villa 0!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 11, 2016, 11:00:11 AM
Villa 0!

Well it's a start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 11, 2016, 11:06:06 AM
I've gone for a home win because I'm an idiot.

We've all thought that for a while but now you've admitted the problem, we can talk openly about it  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: He wears a magic hat on August 11, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
I'm not going to get to downbeat just yet despite last night. I'm taking 'confidence' from the fact that we look half decent against Sheff Wed and even looked of last night until the ridiculous decision to put MR centre back.

We need to tighten midfield so I'd like up as follows:
                                            Gollini
    Hutton           Elphick                         Baker          Avami
         
                 Bacuna                Westwood           Tishbola

                                            Grealish

                            Ayew                     McCormack

I'm sure this would be enough to take the points


Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on August 11, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
the next 2 transfer windows are about buying to stay in the championship, no more. We are a million miles away from promotion, one win in six months proves that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 11, 2016, 11:32:13 AM
I think I would play

RossM  Bad English
Monty  Paulie Clampy BrianGreen
Risso Baker elphick SoccerHQ
  Golini


subs  Ozzrim Toronto Villa Legion supertom ukredsox Tish



thats easily the best team we can paly at the moment - the rest are shit
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 11, 2016, 11:33:46 AM
Rotherham may be a poor side but if they are organised and determined they'll beat us for sure.

Until we sort out the mental problem by purge or other means, can't see us winning any game in the near future.

I'm tired of this happening over and over again, just for once I'd like a team to have to play like eleven Cruyffs in order to leave Villa Park with anything.

I've not seen us play yet, nothing, no highlights, no goals, not a thing. So I should be excited about Saturday, my first game of the season. But I'm not. Right now, I don't want to go. I will, and as the time approaches I don't doubt I'll start to feel optimistic. But right now, to think that come Saturday evening I'll feel anything different to the wretched emotions of last season seems a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on August 11, 2016, 11:44:52 AM
the next 2 transfer windows are about buying to stay in the championship, no more. We are a million miles away from promotion, one win in six months proves that.

Unfortunatley I agree with this. The malaise is so deep rooted its just not going to turn around unless the team changes. Jedenak is a great shout.

The one thing you need to be in the Championship is battle hardened. We're about as battled hardened as a blamange.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on August 11, 2016, 11:45:16 AM
I think I would play

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thats easily the best team we can paly at the moment - the rest are shit

Expect my transfer request imminently, at this stage of my career I need first team football.

Oh, and I predict a very nervy 2.1 win which is celebrated wildly...until we remember we were playing Rotherham.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on August 11, 2016, 11:47:40 AM
5-0 home win.  The beginning of our undefeated home run that'll last the whole season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on August 11, 2016, 11:59:35 AM
I've got some equally good stuff here. PM me if  you want to go higher.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on August 11, 2016, 12:03:40 PM
I'm not going to get to downbeat just yet despite last night. I'm taking 'confidence' from the fact that we look half decent against Sheff Wed and even looked of last night until the ridiculous decision to put MR centre back.

We need to tighten midfield so I'd like up as follows:
                                            Gollini
    Hutton           Elphick                         Baker          Avami
         
                 Bacuna                Westwood           Tishbola

                                            Grealish

                            Ayew                     McCormack

I'm sure this would be enough to take the points



This is the formation I would like to see. We need those 3 in midfield to protect the defense and stop teams dominating us. I would have like to see Gil in behind the two but there you go...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 11, 2016, 12:13:54 PM
I think I would play

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thats easily the best team we can paly at the moment - the rest are shit

Expect my transfer request imminently, at this stage of my career I need first team football.

Oh, and I predict a very nervy 2.1 win which is celebrated wildly...until we remember we were playing Rotherham.

you was seen out with Gabby at Broad Street , this is your punishment and If you dont change your attitude , Coventry are very interested in you .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 11, 2016, 12:21:55 PM
anyway RDM team  1-1

my team 6-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on August 11, 2016, 01:16:05 PM
This is where we turn it around. Well, as long as we drop most of the current team and buy at least six new players before Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hairbandinho on August 11, 2016, 01:21:20 PM
I am regretting going now.

This could be brutal.

I hate the midfield :-(
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 11, 2016, 01:35:44 PM
I'd go with

                            Gollini

Hutton       Ephick          Chester        Cissokho



Adama         New Midfielder   Tsibola      Amavi


                  McCormack   Ayew

Don't know if Adama is fit, but I hope we have Chester and a midfielder in by the weekend. I am done watching us fanny around using fullbacks for width, I just want them to stay in their own half and defend. We can use wingers for width, though we only really have Adama on the right. I'd like top see Amavi tried at left wing, he is a bloody awful defender but might make a half decent wide player.

I'd also like to see if Ayew and McCormack can form a partnership.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 01:51:58 PM
Don't know if Adama is fit

I could hazard a guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 11, 2016, 01:56:38 PM
I think I would play

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thats easily the best team we can paly at the moment - the rest are shit

I will be the best touchline warmer upper since Mathieu Berson
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ClarrieBlue on August 11, 2016, 02:01:48 PM
I'm gutted. You left me out. I demand a transfer.

I think I would play

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thats easily the best team we can paly at the moment - the rest are shit

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Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on August 11, 2016, 02:07:06 PM
I'm left-footed; that will fool Rotherham.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 11, 2016, 02:16:04 PM
I'd go with

                            Gollini

Hutton       Ephick          Chester        Cissokho



Adama         New Midfielder   Tsibola      Amavi


                  McCormack   Ayew

Don't know if Adama is fit, but I hope we have Chester and a midfielder in by the weekend. I am done watching us fanny around using fullbacks for width, I just want them to stay in their own half and defend. We can use wingers for width, though we only really have Adama on the right. I'd like top see Amavi tried at left wing, he is a bloody awful defender but might make a half decent wide player.

I'd also like to see if Ayew and McCormack can form a partnership.

I'd rather play with 9 men than have Hutton and Cissohko playing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on August 11, 2016, 02:39:49 PM
For me

Gollini
Amavi, Tommy, Baker, Aly
Westwood, Thish
Bacuna, Grealish, Ayew
Ross
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: anton hillman on August 11, 2016, 04:04:39 PM
3-1 win. Anderson, Rudge , Stobart.

http://www.11v11.com/matches/aston-villa-v-rotherham-united-26-august-1967-113383/


(https://guideimg.alibaba.com/images/shop/85/10/29/9/aston-villa-v-rotherham-and-plymouth-1967-68-division-2_1978589.JPG)
I remember that game as a twelve year old. We'd just gone down to division 2 and I left the Holte End with my mates thinking that we might have a good season...That didn't happen and several nightmare years began. I'm hoping to god that history isn't about to repeat itself...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on August 11, 2016, 04:20:57 PM
I've been wracking my brains.I don't think Rotherham have ever had a famous player.A few famous managers but not a player of renown.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on August 11, 2016, 04:22:11 PM
It feels like punishment having to go twice in space of 4 days ........ although think I can skip Tuesday and officiate at local level instead ........ taking abuse rather than no doubt needing to give
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on August 11, 2016, 04:26:35 PM
I've been wracking my brains.I don't think Rotherham have ever had a famous player.A few famous managers but not a player of renown.

Mick Harford, didn't he play there?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 11, 2016, 04:29:25 PM
I've been wracking my brains.I don't think Rotherham have ever had a famous player.A few famous managers but not a player of renown.

Mick Harford, didn't he play there?

Shaun Goater
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tony scott on August 11, 2016, 04:32:12 PM
Because we need to tighten up ,I would play Bennett in the hole ,with Mc and Ayew up top, TishWestwood and Bacuna in midfield, this would provide cover for fullback, and we should look to Nick a goal. We have got to make ourselves hard to beat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on August 11, 2016, 04:36:16 PM
I've been wracking my brains.I don't think Rotherham have ever had a famous player.A few famous managers but not a player of renown.

That guy who gets the fastest ever hat-trick against Villa on Saturday...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 04:39:47 PM
Rotherham conceded 5 at home to Morecambe on Tuesday night.

They scored 4 though.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Cliftonville Villain on August 11, 2016, 04:44:17 PM
They have to win this surely, but no, another loss. And if so, I'm gonna say it, DiMatteo needs to be looked at. He's had all f**king summer, more than enough time and experience to spot the donkeys, but yet they're still picked, one of them even being made captain for that farce last night. I don't even blame Richards anymore...he's always picked no matter how atrocious his performance. I'm hoping and praying that we're bottoming out, but if we're still relying on these idiots come the end of the window, we'll drop again. In my 45 years of supporting Villa, I have never felt so detached from my team. Steve Hodge had nothing on these guys.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on August 11, 2016, 05:44:55 PM
I'm desperate obviously, but agree with above, and I know twelve monthe ago pulis was prepared to walk out on the olbiyun if we had pushed. I'm questioning rdm
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on August 11, 2016, 06:05:24 PM
I never thought i'd be predicting  a home defeat to Rotherham but that's the reality of it. 0-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on August 11, 2016, 06:07:12 PM
0-0, stop fucking using the full backs as our primary use of attacking width!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2016, 06:29:24 PM
I've been wracking my brains.I don't think Rotherham have ever had a famous player.A few famous managers but not a player of renown.

Dave Watson.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on August 11, 2016, 06:35:25 PM
Gollini
Hutton Elphick Baker Toner
Green Westwood Tshibola Amavi
Ayew
McCormack

Subs: Bunn, Grealish, Adama, RHM, Gestede, Lyden, Veretout
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on August 11, 2016, 06:46:24 PM
I'd go:

Gollini

Hutton
Elphick
Baker
Amavi

Tish
Westwood

Bacuna (I'm not happy to play he or Westy from the start particularly, but it says it all that we actually looked worse without them last night).
Ayew
Grealish

McCormack.

Subs- Bunn, Toner, Green, Lyden (is he available??), RHM, Gestede, Traore.

I'd occasionally alternate RM and Ayew as the main man up top or in behind.
With those full-backs it's important to come out strong and keep on the front foot. We need to impose ourselves on the game.

Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 07:00:46 PM
I'd go with that. Win the battle in midfield and let the quality tell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on August 11, 2016, 07:35:23 PM
Gollini
Hutton Elphick Baker Toner
Green Westwood Tshibola Amavi
Ayew
McCormack

Subs: Bunn, Grealish, Adama, RHM, Gestede, Lyden, Veretout

close to that for me too barring sir pointalot
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 11, 2016, 07:55:34 PM
I'd go:

Gollini

Hutton
Elphick
Baker
Amavi

Tish
Westwood

Bacuna (I'm not happy to play he or Westy from the start particularly, but it says it all that we actually looked worse without them last night).
Ayew
Grealish

McCormack.

Subs- Bunn, Toner, Green, Lyden (is he available??), RHM, Gestede, Traore.

I'd occasionally alternate RM and Ayew as the main man up top or in behind.
With those full-backs it's important to come out strong and keep on the front foot. We need to impose ourselves on the game.



I really don't think McCormack can play the 9 role. Not sure about ayew there either. We need another
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 11, 2016, 07:55:36 PM
Would have Richards, bacuna or anyone at right back, just no Alan hutton
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on August 11, 2016, 08:36:02 PM
Would have Richards, bacuna or anyone at right back, just no Alan hutton

Wow, what a choice that is!! I'd rather have Fernando Nelson back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on August 11, 2016, 08:37:10 PM
I'd go:

Gollini

Hutton
Elphick
Baker
Amavi

Tish
Westwood

Bacuna (I'm not happy to play he or Westy from the start particularly, but it says it all that we actually looked worse without them last night).
Ayew
Grealish

McCormack.

Subs- Bunn, Toner, Green, Lyden (is he available??), RHM, Gestede, Traore.

I'd occasionally alternate RM and Ayew as the main man up top or in behind.
With those full-backs it's important to come out strong and keep on the front foot. We need to impose ourselves on the game.



I really don't think McCormack can play the 9 role. Not sure about ayew there either. We need another
We do need another, but I can't see us bringing in anyone before the final week of the window. We need to prioritise midfield and defence first.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 09:50:52 PM
                                                                                 Gollini

                              Chester                                        Elphick                                           Toner

Lyden                                                                         Tshibola                                                                              Amavi

                               Green                                          Grealish                                           Ayew

                                                                                   McCormack

5 Subs
Bunn
Hutton
Cowans
Westwood
Gestede

Villa HAVE to win these next two home games however unlikely that seems.

Three League games played and six points accrued. An average of two points per match.

We're starting to compete at last.



Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hopadop on August 11, 2016, 10:02:40 PM
Rotherham. Fucking hell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 10:03:28 PM
                                                                                 Gollini

                              Chester                                        Elphick                                           Toner

Lyden                                                                         Tshibola                                                                              Amavi

                               Green                                          Grealish                                           Ayew

                                                                                   McCormack

5 Subs
Bunn
Hutton
Cowans
Westwood
Gestede

Villa HAVE to win these next two home games however unlikely that seems.

Three League games played and six points accrued. An average of two points per match.

We're starting to compete at last.





That line up looks a bit dodgy. Playing one midfielder is not the best idea in the world.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 10:10:26 PM
I count six.

Name your team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 10:16:20 PM
I count six.

Name your team.

Who's your 6? Ayew and Green are not midfielders and neither is Amavi.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 10:18:26 PM
Name your team ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 10:21:03 PM
Name your team ?


I'd rather you name your 6 midfielders. Besides, I haven't given a team i'd pick much thought.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on August 11, 2016, 10:25:22 PM
                                                                                 Gollini

                              Chester                                        Elphick                                           Toner

Lyden                                                                         Tshibola                                                                              Amavi

                               Green                                          Grealish                                           Ayew

                                                                                   McCormack

5 Subs
Bunn
Hutton
Cowans
Westwood
Gestede

Villa HAVE to win these next two home games however unlikely that seems.

Three League games played and six points accrued. An average of two points per match.

We're starting to compete at last.





Fail ;-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 10:29:19 PM
                                                                                 Gollini

                              Chester                                        Elphick                                           Toner

Lyden                                                                         Tshibola                                                                              Amavi

                               Green                                          Grealish                                           Ayew

                                                                                   McCormack

5 Subs
Bunn
Hutton
Cowans
Westwood
Gestede

Villa HAVE to win these next two home games however unlikely that seems.

Three League games played and six points accrued. An average of two points per match.

We're starting to compete at last.





Fail ;-)

I didn't spot the 5 subs either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on August 11, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
Would have Richards, bacuna or anyone at right back, just no Alan hutton

Wow, what a choice that is!! I'd rather have Fernando Nelson back.

I'd rather have Fernando Partridge or Willie Nelson than either of them two donkeys.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tugby Villain on August 11, 2016, 10:32:05 PM
                               Gollini

  Hutton      Elphick        Baker      Amavi
                 
                  Tshibola    Westwood

      Bacuna        McCormack        Ayew

                      Hepburn-Murphy
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 10:32:51 PM
Back Three

6 midfielders

McCormack

Haven't thought about which team you'd pick ?

You're McCleish, Lambert, Sherwood AND Garde.

I claim my £20 .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on August 11, 2016, 10:33:12 PM
Rotherham are 4-1 to win.  I hate backing against The Villa but that is tempting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on August 11, 2016, 10:37:06 PM
Back Three

6 midfielders

McCormack

Haven't thought about which team you'd pick ?

You're McCleish, Lambert, Sherwood AND Garde.

I claim my £20 .

Chill mate. Not many options really, so I suppose your team might be close to the line up, except that there will be seven subs and, I suspect, Chester will be involved. Four at the back though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2016, 10:38:41 PM
They did ship 5 against a 4th division outfit. They're not the best.

Based on what we have at this minute  (seems likely that Chester will join tomorrow) I'd go with;

Gollini, Bacuna, Elphick, Baker and Amavi at the back.

Westwood and Tshibola as a central two. Grealish in front in the numerous ten slot with Green and Ayew wide of McCormack.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 10:38:58 PM
Back Three

6 midfielders

McCormack

Haven't thought about which team you'd pick ?

You're McCleish, Lambert, Sherwood AND Garde.

I claim my £20 .

No, i haven't yet but i won't be picking 6 midfielders and 5 subs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 10:42:12 PM
Back Three

6 midfielders

McCormack

Haven't thought about which team you'd pick ?

You're McCleish, Lambert, Sherwood AND Garde.

I claim my £20 .

Chill mate. Not many options really, so I suppose your team might be close to the line up, except that there will be seven subs and, I suspect, Chester will be involved. Four at the back though.

I struggled to name five subs, let alone seven.
 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on August 11, 2016, 10:43:46 PM
They did ship 5 against a 4th division outfit. They're not the best.

Based on what we have at this minute  (seems likely that Chester will join tomorrow) I'd go with;

Gollini, Bacuna, Elphick, Baker and Amavi at the back.

Westwood and Tshibola as a central two. Grealish in front in the numerous ten slot with Green and Ayew wide of McCormack.

Swap Chester for Baker and I am with you. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 10:45:24 PM
They did ship 5 against a 4th division outfit. They're not the best.

Based on what we have at this minute  (seems likely that Chester will join tomorrow) I'd go with;

Gollini, Bacuna, Elphick, Baker and Amavi at the back.

Westwood and Tshibola as a central two. Grealish in front in the numerous ten slot with Green and Ayew wide of McCormack.
It
That would probably be what i would go with.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 10:50:45 PM
They did ship 5 against a 4th division outfit. They're not the best.

Based on what we have at this minute  (seems likely that Chester will join tomorrow) I'd go with;

Gollini, Bacuna, Elphick, Baker and Amavi at the back.

Westwood and Tshibola as a central two. Grealish in front in the numerous ten slot with Green and Ayew wide of McCormack.
It
That would probably be what i would go with.

So how many mid fielders is that ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 10:53:44 PM
They did ship 5 against a 4th division outfit. They're not the best.

Based on what we have at this minute  (seems likely that Chester will join tomorrow) I'd go with;

Gollini, Bacuna, Elphick, Baker and Amavi at the back.

Westwood and Tshibola as a central two. Grealish in front in the numerous ten slot with Green and Ayew wide of McCormack.
It
That would probably be what i would go with.

So how many mid fielders is that ?


Two holding, westwood and thisbola.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinEaton on August 11, 2016, 11:02:54 PM
From what I've seen Tshibola is not a holding midfielder. He seems to lack game management and is not the enforcer I'd hoped for. I think he will be a good player, but not in the holding role.

This is the biggest area that needs looking at for me. When we concede and we capitulate we leave the defence massively exposed. We are crying out for some experience to sit in front of the back 4, not go wandering and break up play. Westwood is not that player, and neither is Tshibola.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 11:03:56 PM
The tried and trusted Westwood in mid field with the tried and trusted Bacuna at right back im assuming ?

Great. Cant wait.

Remind me again, what position are YOUR Grealish, Green and Ayew playing in ?

Is it a front four with McCormack ?

Is your line up 4-2-4 ?

Almost any Championship side would walk through your team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2016, 11:10:05 PM
The tried and trusted Westwood in mid field with the tried and trusted Bacuna at right back im assuming ?

Great. Cant wait.

Remind me again, what position are YOUR Grealish, Green and Ayew playing in ?

Is it a front four with McCormack ?

Is your line up 4-2-4 ?

Almost any Championship side would walk through your team.

Oh for heaven's sake, you posted a team and someone didn't like it, it's the way a forum works. Difference of opinion i believe it's called.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on August 11, 2016, 11:10:18 PM
The tried and trusted Westwood in mid field with the tried and trusted Bacuna at right back im assuming ?

Great. Cant wait.

Remind me again, what position are YOUR Grealish, Green and Ayew playing in ?

Is it a front four with McCormack ?

Is your line up 4-2-4 ?

Almost any Championship side would walk through your team.

Yes, to be successful we need your experimental 3-6-1 formation that all the successful managers use.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 11, 2016, 11:14:08 PM
Scappy 1-0 win with goal in last 10 minutes.

I'd certainly take that, we just need a win by any means.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on August 11, 2016, 11:14:25 PM
The tried and trusted Westwood in mid field with the tried and trusted Bacuna at right back im assuming ?

Great. Cant wait.

Remind me again, what position are YOUR Grealish, Green and Ayew playing in ?

Is it a front four with McCormack ?

Is your line up 4-2-4 ?

Almost any Championship side would walk through your team.

Yes, to be successful we need your experimental 3-6-1 formation that all the successful managers use.

It would stand more of a chance than a 4-2-4 which includes Bacuna and Westwood

For Heavens Sake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 12, 2016, 06:55:41 AM
The tried and trusted Westwood in mid field with the tried and trusted Bacuna at right back im assuming ?

Great. Cant wait.

Remind me again, what position are YOUR Grealish, Green and Ayew playing in ?

Is it a front four with McCormack ?

Is your line up 4-2-4 ?

Almost any Championship side would walk through your team.

Slow down Margaret.

I've picked the best sides I think we have. It's a 433 with licence for the front three to drift and move about as I think Rotherham will sit very deep.

I'd rather have Bacuna at full back than Hutton and I think Westwood is more than adequate at this level.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 12, 2016, 07:15:36 AM
Strange feeling this.

Beleiving and hoping we can nick a league win at home against ... Rotherham.

Anyway, I think we will win and some nerves will be settled at the club.

Lose and... well I dont know.



Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 12, 2016, 07:21:22 AM
I go with that Ads team but would definitely give RH-M at least half an hour for McCormack to use his pace and energy as Rotherham tire. No Amavi style 88th minute substitutions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on August 12, 2016, 07:24:53 AM
I go with that Ads team but would definitely give RH-M at least half an hour for McCormack to use his pace and energy as Rotherham tire. No Amavi style 88th minute substitutions.

Me too, although I don't think he'll make the bench unfortunately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on August 12, 2016, 07:41:20 AM
The tried and trusted Westwood in mid field with the tried and trusted Bacuna at right back im assuming ?

Great. Cant wait.

Remind me again, what position are YOUR Grealish, Green and Ayew playing in ?

Is it a front four with McCormack ?

Is your line up 4-2-4 ?

Almost any Championship side would walk through your team.

Yes, to be successful we need your experimental 3-6-1 formation that all the successful managers use.

Better bring the pitch in a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 12, 2016, 07:43:56 AM
Shame, I really like RHM.  When you are feeling low, an energetic, run-until-he-drops snappy little Jack Russell of a player raises morale better than a loper or a jogger.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 12, 2016, 07:48:24 AM
Good point about RHM. Its a nice change to see someone bust a gut for us when he gets a chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 12, 2016, 08:14:29 AM
Yes, for too long we have slow foxtrotted around the opposition penalty area where we need to wriggle and burrow and toe end goals in.  RH-M looks to be that man.  Put another way, Gestede can only score one way.  Rushian looks able to get them from anything - off his knee, off his arse any way so long as the ball goes in the net.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 12, 2016, 08:23:21 AM
Shame, I really like RHM.  When you are feeling low, an energetic, run-until-he-drops snappy little Jack Russell of a player raises morale better than a loper or a jogger.

Wears a floppy hat and is pretty good at painting ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 12, 2016, 08:26:20 AM
I went for a blindly optimistic 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sid1964 on August 12, 2016, 08:32:14 AM
Villa win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 12, 2016, 08:36:31 AM
Jack Russell is good at painting like William McGonagall is good at poetry.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on August 12, 2016, 08:54:45 AM
I'm going for a 1-1 here. First poin,t but more importantly the start of a 16 game unbeaten run.................................
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on August 12, 2016, 09:21:32 AM
can anyone go in the Holte suite for pre and post match drinks or is it just members or season ticket holders?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 12, 2016, 09:49:47 AM
Anybody seen the state of Traore? Picture snapped with his top off in the training room.

I'm not sure whether he looks like a Middle Weight boxer or an Olympic Sprinter. He's fucking huge.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 12, 2016, 10:33:03 AM
Tshibola will start I'd imagine but with Westwood leaving....Gardner will have to start again surely as do we actually have anyone else to play CM?

There's Lyden but I don't think of him as a starting player at this point and he didn't feature v Luton so clearly not high up in RDM's thoughts.

Team looking unbalanced still and we really need to sign a CM or two next week as Derby will murder us in that area.

Still Rotherham will be one of the relegation teams I think so not good signs if we can't win this with the firepower we have.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mallo on August 12, 2016, 10:56:15 AM
Paper over the cracks with a heroic 2-2 draw. Get some more players in and have a group electro-convulsive therapy holding on to the metal rails to forget the last 5 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on August 12, 2016, 11:39:43 AM
Do players have to be signed by a certain time to be available for Saturday? Presume Westwood is as good as gone

--------------Gollini
Bacuna, Elphick, Chester, Amavi
--------Veretout, Tshibola
Ayew, Mccormick, Grealish
---------------gabby

...runs for cover
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on August 12, 2016, 11:40:06 AM
He has to be registered by 12:00 I believe.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 12, 2016, 11:46:38 AM
Veretout dosen't want to be here...pointless playing him.

It will have to be Gardner and Tshibola unless Westwood to Burnley isn't as far down the line as people on the net are claiming, wouldn't be the first time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on August 12, 2016, 11:46:58 AM
Is this how low we have fallen that nearly 39% of us are afraid we will lose to Rotherham?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hairbandinho on August 12, 2016, 11:58:22 AM
Yes, we have fallen that far. It's not an unrealistic prediction sadly!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 12, 2016, 12:01:22 PM
Be good to get Chester in as it looks like injury prone Baker could be out .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on August 12, 2016, 12:51:14 PM
Was hoping we'd have signed that midfielder by now. With the squad as it stands I'd go for

                          Gollini

Hutton      Elphick      Chester       Cissokho

Grealish     Tsibola     Gardner      Amavi

                 McCormack    Ayew

Tell Hutton and Cissokho to stay in their own half, Gardner to sit back, Tsibola box to box, Grealish and Amavi to provide width but also cover the fullbacks. McCormack and Ayew to stay up front and get the ball in the net.

We should be beating Rotherham comfortably, but I said that about Luton. Hopefully with Elphick back in the team and no Richards in defence we wont crumble at the first sign of pressure. I think McCormack will score a couple.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 12, 2016, 01:03:50 PM
Not sure Chester will play, and otherwise I think it's only Kozak out. I'd go
                          Gollini
Hutton         Elphick     Baker       Bennett

Traore          Tsibola     Westwood    Amavi

                  Ayew         McCormack

If Bennett and Traore are fit and ready, throw em' in and give them a try.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 12, 2016, 01:54:46 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 12, 2016, 01:59:31 PM
Looking forward to the 5-1 victory tomorrow. Wednesday night will be all but a distant memory as we finally turn up and deliver.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on August 12, 2016, 02:17:50 PM
Anybody seen the state of Traore? Picture snapped with his top off in the training room.

I'm not sure whether he looks like a Middle Weight boxer or an Olympic Sprinter. He's fucking huge.
made of fucking glass though
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 12, 2016, 03:33:10 PM
Looking forward to the 5-1 victory tomorrow. Wednesday night will be all but a distant memory as we finally turn up and deliver.

I'm with you Rudy. Time for us to stop fucking around and get this season going.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 12, 2016, 03:47:43 PM
we have to hammer somebody one day . Don't we ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 12, 2016, 04:18:23 PM
How many yellow cards did Notts County get for chopping down Traore?  Four was it?  If he is made of glass Gestede is made of wet Weetabix (copyright Ads August 2016).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on August 12, 2016, 04:30:31 PM
I'm going for a 1-1 here. First poin,t but more importantly the start of a 16 game unbeaten run.................................

999 .............................  send the men in white coats please ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave17 on August 12, 2016, 05:12:09 PM
Just a quick question for any New York/us based guy; any idea if this is broadcast over here? I've been scouting around but so far found nothing. Thanks dave
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 12, 2016, 05:17:44 PM
Just a quick question for any New York/us based guy; any idea if this is broadcast over here? I've been scouting around but so far found nothing. Thanks dave

Will it not be on the big screen on Time Square?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on August 12, 2016, 05:18:05 PM
What attendance we looking at?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on August 12, 2016, 05:18:10 PM
I'm going for a 1-1 here. First poin,t but more importantly the start of a 16 game unbeaten run.................................

999 .............................  send the men in white coats please ;D



Can somebody remind me what an unbeaten run is?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave17 on August 12, 2016, 05:20:42 PM
Just a quick question for any New York/us based guy; any idea if this is broadcast over here? I've been scouting around but so far found nothing. Thanks dave

Will it not be on the big screen on Time Square?
That's the only thing that can make that place more torturous....legends normally show the games but I've got a horrible feeling ill be left following it via teletex circa 1990
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 12, 2016, 05:23:12 PM
Just a quick question for any New York/us based guy; any idea if this is broadcast over here? I've been scouting around but so far found nothing. Thanks dave

Will it not be on the big screen on Time Square?
That's the only thing that can make that place more torturous....legends normally show the games but I've got a horrible feeling ill be left following it via teletex circa 1990

That's the problem with international jetsetting Dave. Can't you pop round Randy or Hanksies gaff?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave17 on August 12, 2016, 05:27:37 PM
Just a quick question for any New York/us based guy; any idea if this is broadcast over here? I've been scouting around but so far found nothing. Thanks dave

Will it not be on the big screen on Time Square?
That's the only thing that can make that place more torturous....legends normally show the games but I've got a horrible feeling ill be left following it via teletex circa 1990

That's the problem with international jetsetting Dave. Can't you pop round Randy or Hanksies gaff?

Sadly pj only watched the yankees...and of course they're all big Leicester city fans these days (and that's not a joke)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on August 12, 2016, 05:53:33 PM
Looking forward to the 5-1 victory tomorrow. Wednesday night will be all but a distant memory as we finally turn up and deliver.

This. And, frankly, I know it's a long season and everything but if we don't win this one we might as well pack up. This isn't a must-win for survival of anything at this stage, but it is for pride.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 12, 2016, 05:57:35 PM
Pride yes. Just kick starting things and lifting the clouds is so very important tomorrow. Win tomorrow and against Huddersfield everything feels so very different around the club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 12, 2016, 05:59:42 PM
I'd be inclined to get Chester in straight away, if we can. We need to win this game and if we do things will look a lot better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 12, 2016, 06:01:39 PM
I'm going for a 1-1 here. First poin,t but more importantly the start of a 16 game unbeaten run.................................

999 .............................  send the men in white coats please ;D



Can somebody remind me what an unbeaten run is?

It's when you get a draw, then there's an international break, from what I remember.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 12, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
I'm going for a 1-1 here. First poin,t but more importantly the start of a 16 game unbeaten run.................................

999 .............................  send the men in white coats please ;D

Can somebody remind me what an unbeaten run is?

The exact opposite of last season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 12, 2016, 06:29:32 PM
By my reckoning, our longest unbeaten run in a season since Pubhead flounced off is 6. We did manage 9 over 2 seasons, ending 10/11 3 unbeaten and starting 11/12 6 unbeaten. We haven't won 3 in a row since he left. Those stats are for consecutive games in all competitions rather than just the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 12, 2016, 08:20:32 PM
Can somebody remind me what an unbeaten run is?

June
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 12, 2016, 08:38:55 PM
Apparently we'll be welcoming Dr Tone on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow. Hope he doesn't do a Delia
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 12, 2016, 08:40:42 PM
Apparently we'll be welcoming Dr Tone on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow. Hope he doesn't do a Delia

A Team America Kim Jong Il style rant would be awesome. I'll get my coat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 12, 2016, 08:44:52 PM
Apparently we'll be welcoming Dr Tone on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow. Hope he doesn't do a Delia

Anyone know the Mandarin for "let's be 'avin' you"?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on August 12, 2016, 09:50:09 PM
I'd be inclined to get Chester in straight away, if we can. We need to win this game and if we do things will look a lot better.

BBC Sport saying he wasn't signed in time, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2016, 10:16:03 PM
Dr Xia says he was signed with a minute to spare.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on August 12, 2016, 10:18:16 PM
Can somebody remind me what an unbeaten run is?

June
June
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on August 12, 2016, 10:22:11 PM
By my reckoning, our longest unbeaten run in a season since Pubhead flounced off is 6. We did manage 9 over 2 seasons, ending 10/11 3 unbeaten and starting 11/12 6 unbeaten. We haven't won 3 in a row since he left. Those stats are for consecutive games in all competitions rather than just the league.


Statto!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on August 13, 2016, 01:21:41 AM
I would go 4-4-2 personally

Gollini

Bacuna
Elphick
Chester
Cissokho

Grealish
Tishbola
Westwood
Amavi

McCormack
Ayew

I think Amavi just needs to be let loose going forward more, so stick him down the left and give Grealish a more free role from the right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on August 13, 2016, 01:25:35 AM
Think it will be a cruise to victory tomorrow, Rotherham are second favourites to go down and I'm expecting Grealish to have a field day with Amavi down our left.

I'm convinced we will look back at that Luton game in a few months as a turning point as it's warranted an immediate centre half signing plus the death knell for a few more Villa careers. It's now abundantly clear to RDM and Xia that there is no returning to the fold for numerous players still on the payroll which is a big positive.

Let's just hope we have the likes of Toner and Lyden on the bench tomorrow and the  Starksy and Hutch wannabes are told to piss off and stay at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on August 13, 2016, 02:27:45 AM

I'm convinced we will look back at that Luton game in a few months as a turning point as it's warranted an immediate centre half signing plus the death knell for a few more Villa careers. It's now abundantly clear to RDM and Xia that there is no returning to the fold for numerous players still on the payroll which is a big positive.


I flaming well hope so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 13, 2016, 05:27:40 AM
I'm less positive. The second half against Luton reminded me of England v Iceland. The mentality looked so awful, I can just imagine another collapse against a team with nothing to lose

Though I imagine Chester and elphick will do a lot more than Richards and okore for getting everyone into shape
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 13, 2016, 07:13:18 AM
Setting off in a hour, it's a long old trip but hopefully it'll be worth it. UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 13, 2016, 07:33:39 AM
Ditto Deano.  Allow plenty of time.  I think they have discovered dinosaur remains under the Aston Expressway. Drive safely.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 13, 2016, 07:52:14 AM
Ditto Deano.  Allow plenty of time.  I think they have discovered dinosaur remains under the Aston Expressway. Drive safely.

Train all the way up to Victoria, tube to Euston, Euston- Brum New St then the good ol' football express. Home via Marylebone, cos I booked tickets online I have to do specific trains there and back so I wont be home til about eleven. Serves me right for not learning how to drive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 13, 2016, 08:08:47 AM
You can't drink cans whilst driving....
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 13, 2016, 08:10:00 AM
I know RDM likes his 4231 or 442. But until we've got really dependable defensive midfielders in there, there seems a very good case for playing 3 in midfield

Gollini - bacuna elphick Chester Amavi - tshibola Westwood bennett -  grealish - ayew McCormack

Subs: bunn baker Gardner green gestede RHM

I'm not really convincing myself with that lineup but then I can't think of one that does . .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 13, 2016, 08:12:03 AM
Ditto Deano.  Allow plenty of time.  I think they have discovered dinosaur remains under the Aston Expressway. Drive safely.

Train all the way up to Victoria, tube to Euston, Euston- Brum New St then the good ol' football express. Home via Marylebone, cos I booked tickets online I have to do specific trains there and back so I wont be home til about eleven. Serves me right for not learning how to drive.

If you have the time, pop your head into the Bartons Arms.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on August 13, 2016, 08:17:38 AM
I shall be popping all of me into the Barton's with all of my younger son, but perhaps you mean Deano, Stuart.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dorsetvillian on August 13, 2016, 09:21:28 AM
Just about to set off from deepest Dorset. Hopefully the M5will be kind, the sun will shine and a home win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on August 13, 2016, 09:29:49 AM
Just about to set off from deepest Dorset. Hopefully the M5will be kind, the sun will shine and a home win!

You might get two of the three ....but a home win thats pushing your luck
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 13, 2016, 09:56:18 AM
Just about to set off from deepest Dorset. Hopefully the M5will be kind, the sun will shine and a home win!

You might get two of the three ....but a home win thats pushing your luck

12 miles of roadworks at Worcester.

And it's cloudy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on August 13, 2016, 09:57:48 AM
Now Villa...call me impatient if you want but is there any chance of a fucking win today. I was at the last win in a competitive match and I vaguely remember that being early February. Since then there have been 68 million births in the world and 28 million deaths. The country has voted and decided to leave the EEC. England went to the euro,s and came back as per usual , early and with fuck all. So as you can see lots of things have happened in the world see you last decided to win a game. I'm fairly sure that supporter of ours,prince William, would like us to win a game before his grand parents and father depart this earth.........so no pressure Villa..!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on August 13, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
We'll win today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 13, 2016, 10:06:50 AM
Just about to set off from deepest Dorset. Hopefully the M5will be kind, the sun will shine and a home win!

Exeter to home took five hours late last Friday night. Happy driving.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 13, 2016, 10:10:19 AM
Just about to set off from deepest Dorset. Hopefully the M5will be kind, the sun will shine and a home win!

You might get two of the three ....but a home win thats pushing your luck

12 miles of roadworks at Worcester.

And it's cloudy.

The Worcester roadworks are a nightmare. We got stuck in them last Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 13, 2016, 10:11:19 AM
I shall be popping all of me into the Barton's with all of my younger son, but perhaps you mean Deano, Stuart.

I did. But I shall see you later then Brian. Be up there for about 12.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 13, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
12 miles of roadworks at Worcester.



Yep, them's fun.

For the Boro game it took me about an hour longer than normal.


Last Friday afternoon in order to get to Stafford, rather than sit on the M5 near Droitwich for an hour, I drove from 'Nam via Evesham and Alcester onto the M42 and then north of Brum on the M6 Toll.

According to Beeb travel, the traffic thro' the roadworks is flowing fine northbound at the moment (southbound is jammed).

However, I'll probably still set off from the Forest at 10:30 and take a book to read whilst either stuck in a jam or stopped having a coffee
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcdale on August 13, 2016, 10:22:24 AM
Managed to get myself out of the wheelchair, and will be coming to my first game in 5 years, can't wait to see Villa Park again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on August 13, 2016, 10:27:31 AM
I'm coming up for this one, I have no idea what to expect. Heart says Elphick coming back will make a big difference and a decentish crowd will encourage the team on to a  win. Head says they'll come to stone wall, bully us and win with a goal from a defending or goalkeeping mistake as opposed to anything they do themselves.
Sod it, the heart wins, 3-1 Villa and Gestede to get a brace with two headers from corners.
the only flaw with your prediction is that for it to happen, we'll need to win two corners. Bit of a long shot maybe?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on August 13, 2016, 10:29:30 AM
I just hope the players have a little look around the dressing room before the game and one or two of them spot a pair of bollocks. If by chance this happens, some of them may realise we are now playing Rotheram Effing United and we may win. If not, well they might as well pack in this football lark and go and do something else.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 13, 2016, 10:49:40 AM
Apparently the M6 Jn6 roadworks have completed sooner than expected and there should be no weekend road closures this weekend, so I'm going to risk going my normal route in the hope I can exit at Jn6 to Park Circus. Still night time closures and restrictions on the Expressway so probably need a new route home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on August 13, 2016, 10:52:42 AM
Is Chester able to play?  Despite the first two results this season, I'm heading to B6 with some expectations. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 13, 2016, 10:54:03 AM
Is Chester able to play?  Despite the first two results this season, I'm heading to B6 with some expectations. 

Made the registration deadline by one minute apparently so should be available
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on August 13, 2016, 11:06:50 AM
Elphick and Chester already sounds a better centre back pairing than any we have had for years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on August 13, 2016, 11:14:10 AM
Apparently we'll be welcoming Dr Tone on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow. Hope he doesn't do a Delia

Anyone know the Mandarin for "let's be 'avin' you"?

让我们将您的     :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 13, 2016, 11:17:08 AM
Apparently we'll be welcoming Dr Tone on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow. Hope he doesn't do a Delia

Anyone know the Mandarin for "let's be 'avin' you"?

让我们将您的     :)

What about, "Let's fuck these fuckers"?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 13, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
Elphick and Chester already sounds a better centre back pairing than any we have had for years.



Cops Chester and Elphick , fighting Crime and a shit midfield
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 13, 2016, 11:19:52 AM
Elphick and Chester already sounds a better centre back pairing than any we have had for years.


It sounds like a small town furniture store to me
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on August 13, 2016, 11:21:02 AM
Apparently we'll be welcoming Dr Tone on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow. Hope he doesn't do a Delia

Anyone know the Mandarin for "let's be 'avin' you"?

让我们将您的     :)

What about, "Let's fuck these fuckers"?

Now then, that'll be:  让我们干这些 fuckers
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on August 13, 2016, 11:31:07 AM
Dr.Tone had the players in for a pep talk yesterday.
There are pictures of Tommy at Villa Park yesterday getting involved in sorting out the entrance music for the players.

I know it's all tosh compared to winning games and being successful of the pitch, but bloody hell, it's good to see that there are people at the club who now care. People who are bothered enough to care about the little things.
Such a refreshing change rather than seeing players spitting chewing gum and smoking shisha pipes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on August 13, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
Apparently the M6 Jn6 roadworks have completed sooner than expected and there should be no weekend road closures this weekend, so I'm going to risk going my normal route in the hope I can exit at Jn6 to Park Circus. Still night time closures and restrictions on the Expressway so probably need a new route home.


Thank you. You have partly answered a question I was going to ask. It was nearly half time when I finally got to the Boro friendly. So if I take my usual route through Yardley across the Fox And Goose crossroads through Bromford and then up to Spaghetti will I be able to get onto the Lichfield Road a hell of a lot easier than I did that day?

I already have my 'cunning plan' route home due to the experience of that day and spending years managing betting shops in Duddeston, Saltley, Washwood Heath and Alum Rock.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 13, 2016, 11:40:21 AM
Apparently we'll be welcoming Dr Tone on the pitch before kick-off tomorrow. Hope he doesn't do a Delia

Anyone know the Mandarin for "let's be 'avin' you"?

让我们将您的     :)

What about, "Let's fuck these fuckers"?

Now then, that'll be:  让我们干这些 fuckers

Would that be like in my Eighties late night snooker sessions at Snow Hill, where the lads on the next table would break out in an argument which involved shouting in words unintelligible to me, save for one clear-as-day swear word in there somewhere, before someone then got a cue round the back of the head?

English, best language on the planet!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on August 13, 2016, 11:41:38 AM
we EVER played this shit before, apart from in cup games?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on August 13, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
we EVER played this shit before, apart from in cup games?


I would take a punt that we did in the third division days as I would guess that has been Rotherham's average level in their history.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on August 13, 2016, 11:43:28 AM
we EVER played this shit before, apart from in cup games?

I think 1971 the last time
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on August 13, 2016, 11:44:58 AM
we EVER played this shit before, apart from in cup games?

I think 1971 the last time

oh before I was born, tongue firmly in cheek.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 13, 2016, 11:50:11 AM
we EVER played this shit before, apart from in cup games?

I think 1971 the last time

That was the last time at home and we lost but won at their place in the March of '72.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on August 13, 2016, 12:01:13 PM
Apparently the M6 Jn6 roadworks have completed sooner than expected and there should be no weekend road closures this weekend, so I'm going to risk going my normal route in the hope I can exit at Jn6 to Park Circus. Still night time closures and restrictions on the Expressway so probably need a new route home.

Thank you. You have partly answered a question I was going to ask. It was nearly half time when I finally got to the Boro friendly. So if I take my usual route through Yardley across the Fox And Goose crossroads through Bromford and then up to Spaghetti will I be able to get onto the Lichfield Road a hell of a lot easier than I did that day?

I already have my 'cunning plan' route home due to the experience of that day and spending years managing betting shops in Duddeston, Saltley, Washwood Heath and Alum Rock.

Can't help you with that one Damo - I usually go M5-M6 Jnc 6-Expressway-Park Circus-King Edwards. Normal route home is reverse of that but don't think I'll be able to get back on Expressway at Park Circus so might have to try Birchfield Road to Jnc 7 or back through town and Hagley Rd. Either way I think it's going to be a slow haul home - hope the dog's bladder lasts 'til I get back home!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 13, 2016, 12:10:24 PM
I've not seen us play yet, nothing, no highlights, no goals, not a thing. So I should be excited about Saturday, my first game of the season. But I'm not. Right now, I don't want to go. I will, and as the time approaches I don't doubt I'll start to feel optimistic. But right now, to think that come Saturday evening I'll feel anything different to the wretched emotions of last season seems a pipe dream.

I am, I really really am!

I love you, Villa.

Twelvety-nil to us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on August 13, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
Apparently the M6 Jn6 roadworks have completed sooner than expected and there should be no weekend road closures this weekend, so I'm going to risk going my normal route in the hope I can exit at Jn6 to Park Circus. Still night time closures and restrictions on the Expressway so probably need a new route home.

Thank you. You have partly answered a question I was going to ask. It was nearly half time when I finally got to the Boro friendly. So if I take my usual route through Yardley across the Fox And Goose crossroads through Bromford and then up to Spaghetti will I be able to get onto the Lichfield Road a hell of a lot easier than I did that day?

I already have my 'cunning plan' route home due to the experience of that day and spending years managing betting shops in Duddeston, Saltley, Washwood Heath and Alum Rock.

Can't help you with that one Damo - I usually go M5-M6 Jnc 6-Expressway-Park Circus-King Edwards. Normal route home is reverse of that but don't think I'll be able to get back on Expressway at Park Circus so might have to try Birchfield Road to Jnc 7 or back through town and Hagley Rd. Either way I think it's going to be a slow haul home - hope the dog's bladder lasts 'til I get back home!




Ah, the joy of dogs. The reason why for years we have had laminate flooring on the hall, stairs and landing as opposed to carpet!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on August 13, 2016, 12:14:09 PM
we EVER played this shit before, apart from in cup games?

I think 1971 the last time

That was the last time at home and we lost but won at their place in the March of '72.

Early seventies definitely.  I was at Millmore when we beat them, I can't remember the bloody score, it was either 2-1 or 3-2 but given my memory it was probably 1-0.  I still have the programme.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on August 13, 2016, 12:20:32 PM
If someone ever says 'Rotherham' to me my first thought is of a rather chunky Emlyn Hughes as their player manager in the early eighties when Match Of The Day felt obliged to show highlights of the odd division two game now and again. Fulham and Gordon Davies used to feature a lot too. Probably close to the studios and saving on the petrol money.

Although to be fair it isn't very often someone approaches me and says "Rotherham".
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 13, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
I always associate Rotherham with a gobby rubber dinosaur from a 90s kids' Saturday morning TV show, the name of which escapes me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on August 13, 2016, 12:36:10 PM
Will go for a 3-1 win.  Anyew, Elphick and Gardner.   Any win would do me to gets us off the mark and calm the home nerves. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: anton hillman on August 13, 2016, 12:53:56 PM
we EVER played this shit before, apart from in cup games?
Yes we played them in division 2 in the late 60's after we dropped down from division 1 in 1967. The first game against them was in August 1967 in front of a crowd 13000 in a semi derelict VP. There is a post elsewhere on this thread showing the cover of the programme for that game
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on August 13, 2016, 01:01:45 PM
I always associate Rotherham with a gobby rubber dinosaur from a 90s kids' Saturday morning TV show, the name of which escapes me.

Brian the Dinosaur from Parallel 9.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on August 13, 2016, 01:06:47 PM
I always associate Rotherham with a gobby rubber dinosaur from a 90s kids' Saturday morning TV show, the name of which escapes me.

Brian the Dinosaur from Parallel 9.


Never heard of him. My knowledge of kids TV is from being a kid in the seventies and eighties and then being a father since the late nineties. I would say I am ignorant on the years between about 1985 and 1998. Although for some reason I remember the days when Ant of Ant and Dec fame was blind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on August 13, 2016, 01:11:16 PM
I always associate Rotherham with a gobby rubber dinosaur from a 90s kids' Saturday morning TV show, the name of which escapes me.

Brian the Dinosaur from Parallel 9.


Never heard of him. My knowledge of kids TV is from being a kid in the seventies and eighties and then being a father since the late nineties. I would say I am ignorant on the years between about 1985 and 1998. Although for some reason I remember the days when Ant of Ant and Dec fame was blind.
To be honest My Kids TV knowledge is the same 70s and 80s, so I don't even know how I know that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 13, 2016, 01:30:56 PM
All I know me and Mr Sox should be banned from starting match threads after our abysmal 0-2 start to the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 13, 2016, 01:57:49 PM
All I know me and Mr Sox should be banned from starting match threads after our abysmal 0-2 start to the season.

Yep, let's leave it to someone else today

This is Sox Sports News reporting live from by the player's car park where Gabby has just walked in (not carrying any boots)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 13, 2016, 02:01:54 PM
Attacking lineup! Lots of pressure on the midfield two

I imagine grealish and ayew wide in a 442 / 4231? But could be more of a 433 I guess
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on August 13, 2016, 02:02:24 PM
Adama on the bench
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ad@m on August 13, 2016, 02:03:49 PM
Chester starting. Bacuna right back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Rotherham United Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 13, 2016, 02:05:36 PM
Will someone please start the match thread. Me and Toronto have banned ourselves for a week
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