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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: IQLowe 33 on May 16, 2016, 11:52:25 AM
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
I stood and applauded Scholes goal towards to North Stand several seasons ago.
I got a round of fucks for doing so but I'm always happy to acknowledge class.
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
I stood and applauded Scholes goal towards to North Stand several seasons ago.
I got a round of fucks for doing so but I'm always happy to acknowledge class.
It would have to be an exceptional player or achievement, but I'd do the same.
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
I was there and as hacked off as it's possible to be. I didn't applaud Tambling, neither do I remember anyone else doing so (though I admit to standing).
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Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
The Manchester United supporters gave Ronaldo (the original one) a standing ovation at Old Trafford when he was substituted having detroyed them when playing for Real Madrid.
Nothing wrong with showing a bit of appreciation for a world class performance.
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
I stood and applauded Scholes goal towards to North Stand several seasons ago.
I got a round of fucks for doing so but I'm always happy to acknowledge class.
Yeah right, probably a good call, cuz as I recall games against yanited theres a fair few reds in the upper north.
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If i remember rightly this game was on the tv in the early days of MOTD.
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
I stood and apparently lauded Scholes goal towards the North Stand several seasons ago.
I got a round of fucks for doing so but I'm always happy to acknowledge class.
It would have to be an exceptional player or achievement, but I'd do the same.
It was both.
I coach amateur football - I've always been the only parent/coach man enough to applaud an outstanding opposition goal.
Footballs so screwed up! You're winning six nil, your opposition are still fighting, one of them pulls off something outstanding from nowhere and it's considered a weakness to applaud them.
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Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
The Manchester United supporters gave Ronaldo (the original one) a standing ovation at Old Trafford when he was substituted having detroyed them when playing for Real Madrid.
Nothing wrong with showing a bit of appreciation for a world class performance.
Thank you
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Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
The Manchester United supporters gave Ronaldo (the original one) a standing ovation at Old Trafford when he was substituted having detroyed them when playing for Real Madrid.
Nothing wrong with showing a bit of appreciation for a world class performance.
Thank you
You're welcome. No idea what you mean but you're welcome.
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Fuck the fuckers
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
Why would a supporter of another team applaud a player that's just scored a goal against "your team" , yes things have changed , we now know how to support our club.
I stood and applauded Scholes goal towards to North Stand several seasons ago.
I got a round of fucks for doing so but I'm always happy to acknowledge class.
Yeah right, probably a good call, cuz as I recall games against yanited theres a fair few reds in the upper north.
They're spread throughout every ground manchester united play at.
We'd holidayed out of The Holte and had season tickets next to the players tunnel at the time - funny how those that only get to one or two Villa matches a season are more outraged than those of us that watch shit football week after week!
They must 'love' the Villa more than we do.
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I coach amateur football - I've always been the only parent/coach man enough to applaud an outstanding opposition goal.
Footballs so screwed up! You're winning six nil, your opposition are still fighting, one of them pulls off something outstanding from nowhere and it's considered a weakness to applaud them.
The parents of the team my son plays for have always been complimented for their behaviour, funnily enough not so much in the last couple of years when they stopped being the whipping boys of the league!
There was a match last season where the opposition keeper was in tears and getting stick from his own team and even coach and our coach went and chatted to him as our seventh went in and he then pulled off a couple of blinding saves to applause from our parents, as I'm sure you'll be aware there are some horrendous parents at junior football matches these days. My son only goes to training these days as he got sick of being shouted at by adults, not me I hasten to add!
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So some of yous think it's better that we are not so sporting these days. I wonder if any of you rail about ISIS fanaticism? Sure I understand that a Villa fan
would prefer one of our lot to notch five but all the same.....
And yes I'm pretty sure it was on match of the day.
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I'd clap a decent player who scored a hat-trick against us, and I've clapped individual goals before too.
I couldn't bring myself to clap that cheating animal Scholes who shouldn't even have been on the pitch.
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Didn't our fans applaud Lampard when he broke the club's scoring record at Villa Park a couple of seasons back?
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I remember that game I stood on the trinity terrace ,and I know it's fifty years ago no subs I'm sure he was injured, when he scored his fifth. I don't remember applause on all sides of the ground though.
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I was at that match and, the bastard was definitely near the touch line injured about to go off when the ball came to him and he ran like a scalded cat and scored. There was certainly no applause from our supporters that I recall, and I have been known to applaud the opposition on more than one occasion.
Shows what a great defence we had back then when limp-along-Leslie (ask yer Dad) was able to outstrip them and score. Sound familiar?
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I wasn't at the match but Bluenose buddies of mine insist a large section Villa applauded Trevor Francis
when scored a hat trick against for QPR. Sounds unlikely to me.
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Does anyone of the older generation of Villa remember this match? It was notable because Bobby Tambling scored five goals for Chelsea but the most memorable thing for me was the standing ovation Tambling received at the end of the from from virtually every Villa fan in the ground. If this happened these days I doubt very much if a visiting player would get such a reaction from the present generation of Villa (or any other fans for that matter)
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better.
I was there and as hacked off as it's possible to be. I didn't applaud Tambling, neither do I remember anyone else doing so (though I admit to standing).
I was there too and cannot remember this happening at all. Tambling destroyed Charlie Aitken and Villa that day. We were awful.
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I wasn't at the match but Bluenose buddies of mine insist a large section Villa applauded Trevor Francis
when scored a hat trick against for QPR. Sounds unlikely to me.
I was there and I certainly don't recall it. In fact I was running back up the half empty Holte to avoid the pissing rain when his third went in.
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I wasn't at the match but Bluenose buddies of mine insist a large section Villa applauded Trevor Francis
when scored a hat trick against for QPR. Sounds unlikely to me.
I was there and I certainly don't recall it. In fact I was running back up the half empty Holte to avoid the pissing rain when his third went in.
People were so taken with his performance they threw coins to show their appreciation.
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I wasn't at the match but Bluenose buddies of mine insist a large section Villa applauded Trevor Francis
when scored a hat trick against for QPR. Sounds unlikely to me.
I can assure you they didn't.
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Not a hope.
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We've applauded Lampard, Henry and Zola from memory.
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Maybe I imagined it all.
But I didn't.
The applause wasn't unainmous but several thousand Villa applauded Tambling off the pitch.
Sure many had long since left.
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I wasn't at the match but Bluenose buddies of mine insist a large section Villa applauded Trevor Francis
when scored a hat trick against for QPR. Sounds unlikely to me.
I can assure you they didn't.
Absolutely. I was there and was fuming along with everybody near me.
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We've applauded Lampard, Henry and Zola from memory.
I have a strange (real or imagined?) recollection of the Holte End singing Pat Jennings name in a midweek game after we had won the League Cup in 1977. I think we won 2-1 and Spurs were on their way down, so we could afford to be magnanimous.
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Re Francis I'm only stating what I heard from Blues fans. As I said I was highly dubious.
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Yawn - at least send this to memories where this Villa fan can try not to harm himself away from prying eyes.
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I once recall reading an article in the sixties from a player of that era who said that he thought Birmingham fans were the fairest in the country.
By Birmingham he meant both sets of supporters.
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yeah, okay.
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Re Francis I'm only stating what I heard from Blues fans. As I said I was highly dubious.
How would they know, we were playing QPR?
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The only recollection I have of this match, was us going 4 down, then the late great Tony Hateley scoring 2 goals and I was thinking this could be one of our greatest comebacks.
We got relegated that season and who finished just above us to escape the job, the Geordies. Don't think Mike Ashley was in charge of them in those days!
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I wasn't at the match but Bluenose buddies of mine insist a large section Villa applauded Trevor Francis
when scored a hat trick against for QPR. Sounds unlikely to me.
So you, a Villa fan didn't attend a match between Villa and QPR and your 'blue nosed buddies' -two or more did. That's the sort of things Blues fans always do isn't it?
You're making all this up aren't you?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F14mMcDdAdY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F14mMcDdAdY)
Original game from MOTD for those interested. Couldn't hear any loud applause at end though.
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Re Francis I'm only stating what I heard from Blues fans. As I said I was highly dubious.
How would they know, we were playing QPR?
So you won't take "yes" for an answer?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F14mMcDdAdY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F14mMcDdAdY)
Original game from MOTD for those interested. Couldn't hear any loud applause at end though.
It was a long time ago but I'm reporting my memories in good faith.
But here's the thing: why would Villa fans possibly object to being called fair minded as it seems some of you do?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F14mMcDdAdY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F14mMcDdAdY)
Original game from MOTD for those interested. Couldn't hear any loud applause at end though.
It was a long time ago but I'm reporting my memories in good faith.
But here's the thing: why would Villa fans possibly object to being called fair minded as it seems some of you do?
"You". Surely you mean 'us'?
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I was at the Chelsea game and don't remember Tambling being applauded. I do remember that it was said that he "scored five and declared".
I applauded when Cruyff left the pitch, no idea if others did, but that was warranted.
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I recall applauding Lampard on his record breaking day. I remember imagining he had joined us from West Ham instead of them. It seems incredible that this was actually an option back then. And I also remember applauding Henry when he tore us a new one at VP many years ago. He was awesome. So was Ashley Cole that day too, if I recall. But I didn't applaud him.
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Re Francis I'm only stating what I heard from Blues fans. As I said I was highly dubious.
How would they know, we were playing QPR?
So you won't take "yes" for an answer?
I haven't got a fucking clue what this means, but as I was there I that day I'd trust my own memory over some people that wouldn't have even been at the game.
And you know what bluenoses are like in general mate, they're hopeless liars and fantasists, I'm sure you'd agree.
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I was in the Lower North and Lampard got a lot of applause as he walked past at the end of the game. Same game that EBJT got absolutely slaughtered while down injured in front of us and as he was stretchered off.
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I was in the Lower North and Lampard got a lot of applause as he walked past at the end of the game. Same game that EBJT got absolutely slaughtered while down injured in front of us and as he was stretchered off.
I was upstairs and gave him a standing ovation. I thought it was brilliant how gracious we were to great professional in contrast to his arsehole teammate.
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In a different context in the not too distant past. I recall (on the telly) Jimmy Bullard getting a standing ovation by the whole ground as he was helped off with a knee injury only a couple of games after coming back from a long lay-off with another knee injury. It sounded great on the telly so it must have been tremendous there.
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Re Francis I'm only stating what I heard from Blues fans. As I said I was highly dubious.
How would they know, we were playing QPR?
So you won't take "yes" for an answer?
I haven't got a fucking clue what this means, but as I was there I that day I'd trust my own memory over some people that wouldn't have even been at the game.
And you know what bluenoses are like in general mate, they're hopeless liars and fantasists, I'm sure you'd agree.
To be fair (which seems to be slightly politcally incorrect to some of you) ALL football clubs have their liars and fantasists and in fact Villa would actually have more than our beloved neighbours by virtue of have a far bigger fan base.
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In a different context in the not too distant past. I recall (on the telly) Jimmy Bullard getting a standing ovation by the whole ground as he was helped off with a knee injury only a couple of games after coming back from a long lay-off with another knee injury. It sounded great on the telly so it must have been tremendous there.
It was tremendous. I would also say that the villa park crowd has always been fairly generous to opposition players who have had exceptional performances. I also applauded Paul Scholes goal as did many around me, so to be honest I think the original poster is incorrect in his assumption that opposition players aren't applauded in the modern game.
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In a different context in the not too distant past. I recall (on the telly) Jimmy Bullard getting a standing ovation by the whole ground as he was helped off with a knee injury only a couple of games after coming back from a long lay-off with another knee injury. It sounded great on the telly so it must have been tremendous there.
It was tremendous. I would also say that the villa park crowd has always been fairly generous to opposition players who have had exceptional performances. I also applauded Paul Scholes goal as did many around me, so to be honest I think the original poster is incorrect in his assumption that opposition players aren't applauded in the modern game.
Finally a Villa fan who isn't ashamed to admit to being fair minded. Since the point I was making that football crowds of a few years back were much less partisan than they are today I'd say that from the tone of some of the replies my opinion seems to have been somewhat vindicated.
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football crowds of a few years back were much less partisan than they are today
"we're often partisan...."
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You are without doubt on a wind up, "politically incorrect", what the fuck are you talking about? Several people have said they have applauded opposition players but all those of us who were at Villa Park when francis was with QPR have all confirmed he wasn't applauded but that doesn't fit in with whatever narrative or point you are trying and failing spectacularly to make.
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You are without doubt on a wind up, "politically incorrect", what the fuck are you talking about? Several people have said they have applauded opposition players but all those of us who were at Villa Park when francis was with QPR have all confirmed he wasn't applauded but that doesn't fit in with whatever narrative or point you are trying and failing spectacularly to make.
If you read my stuff more carefully you might have noticed that I merely inquired about Franicis and stated that I was extremely dubious as the accuracy of such reports. And yes several punters have indeed said that they have applauded opposision players on occasions but others seem to think that it was almost effete to do so.
I see you've resorted a bit of Anglo saxon; are you getting hot under the collar by any chance? I'm not trying to wind anybody up here only reporting on a memory which may be faulty. If I'm wrong I can live with it- I've been wrong before and I survived.
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Are you, what is it the young people say.....a troll?
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I'm finding out very quickly the definition of "troll": somebody who argues calmly and doesn't resort to personal abuse. If you want me to stop I'll do so- I've got FAR things to do with my time than wriggle around in some verbal cul de sac.
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In a different context in the not too distant past. I recall (on the telly) Jimmy Bullard getting a standing ovation by the whole ground as he was helped off with a knee injury only a couple of games after coming back from a long lay-off with another knee injury. It sounded great on the telly so it must have been tremendous there.
It was tremendous. I would also say that the villa park crowd has always been fairly generous to opposition players who have had exceptional performances. I also applauded Paul Scholes goal as did many around me, so to be honest I think the original poster is incorrect in his assumption that opposition players aren't applauded in the modern game.
Finally a Villa fan who isn't ashamed to admit to being fair minded. Since the point I was making that football crowds of a few years back were much less partisan than they are today I'd say that from the tone of some of the replies my opinion seems to have been somewhat vindicated.
Well you're completely wrong. Look at the Jimmy Bullard incident where almost the whole crowd clapped him off. I have been going down the Villa for over 55 years and would say it hasn't changed over that time. It isn't a frequent occurence either now or back in the sixties but it still happens.
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Certainly wasn't a frequent occurence even back then- which is why I recall (think I recall) the volume of appreciation for Tambling.
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Certainly wasn't a frequent occurence even back then- which is why I recall (think I recall) the volume of appreciation for Tambling.
I don't know whether you ever use guns at any time, but if you do, remember not to point it at your feet in case it ever goes off!
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You'll have to explain that to me. I'm a bit slow see? Are you suggesting that I've shot myself in the foot because I the outrageous gall to disagree with you and one or two others? In any case I actually do think we live in a coarser more self centred time than the period to which I'm referring. I really do.
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I've got it, you're a discarded Viz character.
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Ok, I'm pulling out here. I tried to be courteous and patient and I got roasted.
Sad really.
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Ok, I'm pulling out here. I tried to be courteous and patient and I got roasted.
Sad really.
You've chosen to ignore many courteous replies to your post and then respond to one to make some bizarre point about 'political correctness'. I've no idea what point you're trying and failing to make here.
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Anyway………..
Not the full report in the Argus. It seems that the crowd responded to the hat-trick goal, not quite a round of applause…….
(http://i.imgur.com/4j9eyEX.jpg)
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Another great find Morris. Some random points:
The power of a slow handclap back then was something to behold!
The match reporter Eric Woodward went on to do a fine job at the Villa .
Looks like Chelsea were kicking towards the Witton End first half which suggests the press photographer was on the Trinity Rd TV gantry judging fron the superior angle of the picture compared to the more usual side of the goal position.
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I wonder is Ike Slow the first Villa fan to openly refer to Beelzebub by his father's surname? Quite odd.
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The only recollection I have of this match, was us going 4 down, then the late great Tony Hateley scoring 2 goals and I was thinking this could be one of our greatest comebacks.
We got relegated that season and who finished just above us to escape the job, the Geordies. Don't think Mike Ashley was in charge of them in those days!
Yeah, 4 down and we scored two in quick succession but I'm not sure TH scored them both (he certainly scored one though a trademark header) Oddly enough I'm pretty sure that Osgood scored Chelsea's other goal. And I also have the the impression that the gate was 18000+. If anyone can access the relevant stats I'd be interested to know if I have remembered it all accurately. I was pretty obsessive about stats in those days.
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I was at that game and remember it well for all the wrong reasons . I think Hateley and McLeod scored for us while i think John Boyle got the other goal for Chelsea.Other things i remember from that game are Peter Osgood and Charlie Cooke running rings around us and chopper Harris making sure he got the ball if he could'nt get the man.
As for cheering Tambling i certainly do not recall that,i do remember there were a lot of Chelsea fans at the game.This was about the time when hooliganism was starting to appear. In those days you could stand or sit where you liked and i remember some Chelsea yob trying to get my prized villa scarf off me while i was standing behind the goal in the Holte End .He failed,some bin dipper in the next home game against Liverpool managed that.
Interesting that the attendance was only 18,259 .I was only a kid so i never worried about things like what the crowd was but seeing there was quite a lot of Chelsea fans at the match it seems a lot of Villa fans had started to stay away in protest at the way the club were run by the board,who included the likes of Norman L Smith ,Buckley and Normanshall
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Pooligan, maybe the Chelsea support was far larger than I recall and which would explain my impression that a great many in the ground
did give Tambling an ovation. Your account and record of the other goalscores plus the attandance would suggest that I'm not a million miles away
in my version of events. I do know that there were many Villa fans around me (I was in the Holte End) who did applaud Tambling and being young
I thought this was very much the done thing at football matches and joined in.
Perhaps nostalgia aint what it used to be but I'd say we do indeed live in a more agressive "me first" society than in that period.
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OK it's time for me to come clean: I'm a Birmingham fan and the reason I joined this forum was simply to promote my user name.
Your forum rules prohibit from giving any further explanation. I can say in all honesty that it was never my intention to wind anyone which is why I chose a
memory which I thought showed Villa fans behaving positively. I support Birmingham because my father supported Birmingham and he took me to St Andrews
during my formative years and I formed a bond with a bunch of guys fighting doggedly against relegation (plus ca change you might say)
The probability is that for an overwhelming majority your history replicates mine except that your daddies took you to Villa Park and not St Andrews (thank
fuck for that, I hear many of you say.)
For all the ridiculous rivalry between our two clubs I've always said I'd take a Villa fan from Birmingham or neighbouring regions to any avid Man U from Stirchley.
The days of me fretting over losing a game of football to our bitterest rivals are now over.
I'll understand if your mods see fit to ban me- I have a habit of upsetting mods even on the Blues supporting forums (they won't let go anywhere near SHA
for example.)
All I can say is may the best team win next year. Good luck to yous all.
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You're a Nose? Well blow me down no-one saw that coming.
Thing is, all supporters are welcome here. You want to chat about football we'll chat with anyone. There will always be some ribbing, naturally, but it'll be good humoured as long as you behave yourself. Remember, this is a Villa forum so we'll see everything through Villa eyes but will respect you (sometimes).
I'm diametrically opposed to you I'm afraid as I'd take anyone else over a Nose. But that's just me and also a generational thing as there are many here who have examples of being taken to Villa one week and Small heath the next and it seemed to be a common experience.
By all means stick around. We've all got Nose mates (well most of us) so apart from hating each others football teams we can chew the cud about most things football on an even basis.
Now, let's start with how big a wanker Trevor Francis is...(winky fella)
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Just to qualify my supporting thing - I don't count Brummie Reds, Arsenal fans from Horley, Chelsea from Guildford, Liverpool from Dublin etc etc as anything other than glory hunters and therefore not football fans. They're fans of winning and so I automatically dismiss them and do not count them as football fans. So, yes, a Nose from West Heath is clearly more worthy (even if (s)he is totally deranged and deluded) than a Man U fan from Cotteridge.
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Mr Russell recollects:
About 50 Chelsea youths invaded the pitch at the end to congratulate their man but the recording is indecisive as to any cheering. However, I don't doubt that Villa supporters were amongst those who clapped him off. We were a bit like that!
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Mr Russell recollects:
About 50 Chelsea youths invaded the pitch at the end to congratulate their man but the recording is indecisive as to any cheering. However, I don't doubt that Villa supporters were amongst those who clapped him off. We were a bit like that!
Surely in those days away support was much less significant than it is now; for example I recall going to Birmingham match at Blackburn where the away support was almost certainly below fifty.
The first time I saw a significant number of away supporter grouped tightly together was in about 1964 at St Andrews when liverpool supporterts took over the Tilton. My impression is that therafter supporters of all clubs tended to band together (for obvious reasons) and bigger and bigger concentrations of away support became the norm.
Before that phenomenon away support tended to be much diffuse. I'd often come across a group of about ten or so away supporters at Birmingham home games but vast concentrations never.
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Mr Russell recollects:
About 50 Chelsea youths invaded the pitch at the end to congratulate their man but the recording is indecisive as to any cheering. However, I don't doubt that Villa supporters were amongst those who clapped him off. We were a bit like that!
Surely in those days away support was much less significant than it is now; for example I recall going to Birmingham match at Blackburn where the away support was almost certainly below fifty.
The first time I saw a significant number of away supporter grouped tightly together was in about 1964 at St Andrews when liverpool supporterts took over the Tilton. My impression is that therafter supporters of all clubs tended to band together (for obvious reasons) and bigger and bigger concentrations of away support became the norm.
Before that phenomenon away support tended to be much diffuse. I'd often come across a group of about ten or so away supporters at Birmingham home games but vast concentrations.
Last season then?
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.Good try 6/10
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I recall my old man taking me to Leicester around about 1962 and there were hundreds of Villa supporters there. Forgot to add, we went by train on the football special so, there were certainly many who travelled.
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I recall my old man taking me to Leicester around about 1962 and there were hundreds of Villa supporters there. Forgot to add, we went by train on the football special so, there were certainly many who travelled.
Yeah, certainly there were occasions when away support was significant but nothing like the numbers there are today.
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The world is much smaller nowadays though isn't it? Better public transport, better road network, more people owning cars etc. places so much easier to get to. Plus perhaps people have a few more quid to spare.
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I also recall my old man taking me to Leicester around that time,was probably the same match .If i remember correctly it was a 3-3 draw. I was remember how shocked i was at how small the ground was.I was standing in the corner of the ground and i swear i could touch the player taking a corner.I always recall one their players called Albert Cheesebrough from that game ,probably because he was tall and skinny
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That's definitely the game. We were in the corner too. Small world eh?
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I also recall my old man taking me to Leicester around that time,was probably the same match .If i remember correctly it was a 3-3 draw. I was remember how shocked i was at how small the ground was.I was standing in the corner of the ground and i swear i could touch the player taking a corner.I always recall one their players called Albert Cheesebrough from that game ,probably because he was tall and skinny
Wouldn't that have been Mike Stringfellow?
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Anyone else catch this on BT sport last week?