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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on January 09, 2016, 02:36:18 PM
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Sh...ocking. I think I'll give the replay a miss.
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Very poor. Did we even have a shot on target in the second half?
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WE'RE IN THE FOURTH ROUND DRAW!
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I'm afraid Garde will never, ever lead this team to a victory.
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Garde isn't going ever going to win a game, is he?
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Boot / human face / forever.
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Same as it ever was. Repeat every post match thread between now and may cos they all going to say the same thing. Its painful. Simply painful.
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Yes 2 PWS. Still no win for Garde. Third squad needs huge surgery.
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He hasn't won yet
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Chill, as expected.
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We've found our level. Simply shite
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Happy with a draw on the basis it was more than I expected.
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Pathetic.
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I think we can take this lot in the reply.
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Three wins in any competition all season. This team needs shooting.
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WE'RE IN THE FOURTH ROUND DRAW!
Ha ha ha nice one Dave.
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Terrible.
I don't think even a hybrid of Ferguson, Mourinho and Wenger could turn this shower of shit into a match winning team.
If there isn't a striker available somewhere in the world that can offer more than Rudy Gestede I must be missing something.
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I'm afraid Garde will never, ever lead this team to a victory.
Lol...
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
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Yes 2 PWS.
(http://community.spartangames.co.uk/uploads/gallery/album_853/gallery_3406_853_429.jpeg)
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Disgraceful. If any display shows we won't be bouncing back to the PL anytime soon after this season that was it.
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Dire. Garde hasn't got a clue, unfortunately.
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Confidence and attitude the difference second half.
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
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Cost me loads of money, idiot that I am. Abortion of a team. Get rid of virtually everyone to do with the club. Keep the name, start again. Terrible.
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Shitload's of shit.
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Abject second half.
Gestede, Westwood and Bacuna were pathetic.
The sooner that spineless chancer Bacuna is booted out the better. Waliking round smiling at everyone when we'd conceded the penalty.
We'll do well to win any game between now and May.
Glad Wycombe are so happy - we'll be lucky to get 15000 for that.
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When does the nightmare end? The players are, to a man, useless tosspots. As is the manager, has anyone started a managerial career any worse? Absolute fucking garbage.
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Westwood
Sinclair
Richardson
Gestede
Bacuna
Plus
Hutton
Agbonlahor
Guzan
Nzogbia
You all need fucking off
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Decent first half. Soft penalty but even so, should've had enough to beat that lot. Pretty fucking awful. Beginning to lose faith in Garde. Don't fancy us in the replay at our bogey ground.
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Hate all of them. Villa are a corpse wearing polyester.
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On this performance, we will go straight down out the Championship next season
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Good teams often draw or lose these sort of games, so for once we've got something in common with a good team.
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
What about the Lerner apologists for the past five years of crap.
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Why did I even bother watching that shite?
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Also, where's the actual match thread?
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You have to laugh at BT. "Lucrative replay at Villa Park". 18,000 fans at £15-£20 a pop?
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Look on the bright side... most of this lot have finally found their level.
A battling League 2 point away from home. If we can just scramble a few wins at home we have an outside chance of making the play offs!!!
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Also, where's the actual match thread?
Match threads forum.
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I think we can take this lot in the reply.
Me too. I think I spotted one or two chinks in their armour.
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wont go to the replay
there are so many usless tits at our club now, think I might hibernate away from vp for the remainder of this shit regime.
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Savage must have been taking the actual piss when he said Richardson and Westwood played well!
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What is the point in playing rudy if theres going to be no crosses? May as well play with 10 men.
that game has also proved thay westwood is not good at any level and gana is too lazy. Both need dropping
ayew, gil and bunn looked ok
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I know he hasn't got much to work with, but I have lost faith in Garde.
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how much longer can this go on for?
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Also, where's the actual match thread?
Match threads forum.
I'm sure it wasn't there a second ago!
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
What about the Lerner apologists for the past five years of crap.
Comes across as you are both gloating we didn't win. Which is a strange thing to do.
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Very disappointing result.
Are we actually going to win a match before the end of the season?
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
What about the Lerner apologists for the past five years of crap.
What about it? I'm talking about Garde and he's apparant lack of anything resembling a footballing brain.
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how much longer can this go on for?
At least another 5 months.
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I know he hasn't got much to work with, but I have lost faith in Garde.
Maybe he's after the "longest new manger without a win run" to add to our impressive collection of shit records.
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
What about the Lerner apologists for the past five years of crap.
Find one and we'll ask them.
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
What about the Lerner apologists for the past five years of crap.
Comes across as you are both gloating we didn't win. Which is a strange thing to do.
I don't think it does at all. God, we are so boring to watch, football in slow motion
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There was a positive. Please now play with that back formation for the rest of the season.
Gestede is the worst forward we've ever had and I've watched Simon Stain on his Rod and Waspish Warren Aspinall.
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
What about the Lerner apologists for the past five years of crap.
Comes across as you are both gloating we didn't win. Which is a strange thing to do.
I don't think it does at all. God, we are so boring to watch, football in slow motion
So why don't they say that instead of that "apologists" bollocks. Smacks of gloating.
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Didn't watch. Did Richards go off injured? How was Lyden?
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Bunn didn't look car crash, there's a positive, he can replace Guzan Tuesday.
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I don't buy all this Wycombe deserved a draw crap they're spouting on the tv. We weren't good by any stretch but they were very lucky to get anything out of that I thought.
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This is the first full game I have seen this season, bloody hell what is the point in persevering with Gestede, Kozak has got to be given a chance because he cant be any worse. Yet again Westwood makes a reckless challenge that costs us dearly. We are so poor I feel sorry for those that have season tickets and have to endure that shite week in week out.
The substitutions were puzzling as well.
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That team needs dismantling, end of story, or they'll drop straight through no doubt about it
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Beyond garbage.
Garde apologists, I'm all ears after that ludicrous substiution.
What about the Lerner apologists for the past five years of crap.
Comes across as you are both gloating we didn't win. Which is a strange thing to do.
Not gloating at all PWS. I'm extremely disapponted by another horror show and Garde's inability to outhink a League 2 manager. He's been no inspiration at all since his arrival and shown nothing to make me believe he can make any sort of impact at the club.
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Regarding the subs, I was a bit surprised by them, but we improved and controlled the game after them.
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the hope that Gestede and Sinclair would find their level against these was mistaken
Gestede was absolutely shocking on every level, Savage rightly slating him throughout
to get out of the second division we will have to harden the team up a lot
Gil was bright but gets knocked off the ball too easily, Veretout and Ayew looked a level above when they came on
Gueye alright, probably worth persevering with Richards/Okore/Clark/anyone but Rico
Bacuna is spinless, Westwood weak as piss - some things never change
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Not surprising with the squad the way it is at the moment.
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This is the first full game I have seen this season, bloody hell what is the point in persevering with Gestede, Kozak has got to be given a chance because he cant be any worse. Yet again Westwood makes a reckless challenge that costs us dearly. We are so poor I feel sorry for those that have season tickets and have to endure that shite week in week out.
The substitutions were puzzling as well.
I sit there in awe at our fans who go to watch such utter drivel. I watched it on BT and even turning on the television and spending 90 minutes watching it seems like a monumental waste of precious time on a Saturday
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Get rid of Garde...fucking useless!
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I swear Gestede told him to fuck off.
https://twitter.com/dvtavfc/status/685835138387820544
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I thought Bunn looked OK I'd give him another go the rest shit
Our captain shows about as much enthusiasm for the job as me going back to work on monday
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Gestede is the worst player ever seen, shortly followed by Richardson, Westwood and Bacuna.
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Well at least we didn't lose. That team is crying out for new players.
Westwood covered himself in glory again.
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The lack of actual movement up front is stunning. Our midfielders when they weren't being wasteful actual got into some very decent positions. However all of those efforts were for nothing because there isn't a forward in our squad that understands dropping off a defenders shoulder, late runs, attacking the near post or has any degree of predatory instinct. Gestede is so utterly one dimensional that I cannot still believe Garde persists with him.
Very, very frustrating
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I swear Gestede told him to fuck off.
https://twitter.com/dvtavfc/status/685835138387820544
I think he does! Amazed he knows what the word 'off' means
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Serious point can anybody advise me if we have ever had a top flight player with 100+ games for us who has been worse than Westwood?
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The team is atrocious and would struggle to get in the top 10 of the Championship.
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We improved after the substitution so I'm not having that as criticism of Garde. We were under the cosh and it stemmed the tide.
You make substitutions to improve the team, not because someone did alright in the first half.
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A massive well done to those fans confronting Richards about a lack of passion at the end.
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Also, where's the actual match thread?
Match threads forum.
I'm sure it wasn't there a second ago!
It may have been temporarily hidden by somebody by accident.
But was swiftly put in the right place.
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If Wycombe somehow signed Richardson, Westwood, Sinclair and Gestede they would think they had won the lottery, yet all four players looked totally out of their depth even this company. Where we are shite we really are shite and it brings the whole team down.
Against that, when Ayew, Veretout and Lyden were on the pitch, Wycombe could barely get out of their own half. Special shout out for Lyden, who looked tidy and at ease with what he was supposed to be doing, in total contrast to Westwood whose footwork suggested that he was of the belief that the game was being played in Kabul.
I don't know if Savage was practising his sarcasm but it definitely was a penalty. Having said that the incident in the first half where Richards was pulled back was even definitelier.
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16 without a win in all competitions, i'm really looking forward to Tuesday!
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I don't know what happens to players at Villa, but we seem to be able to coach good players into mediocre ones, and mediocre players into appalling ones.
Richardson was never this poor at his previous clubs, not a world beater, but a decent squad filler. A couple of seasons at Villa and he is now making Bernie Gallagher look like Roberto Carlos. What are the coaches doing to these players to make them go backwards so badly.
Gestede, Richardson, Gabby, Westwood and Gana all need to go. TBH Gil, Grealish, and Traorecould probably join them too - all show glimpses of talent but have no bottle and have to be carried.
In the whole squad there are only Vertout, Ayew, and Amavi that are premier league standard players. Baker, Sinclair, Gardner and Gestede have all played well in the championship for other teams so I do think we will at least not get relegated again next season.
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No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
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MON making some very good points much better than other muppets on BT.
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Two evenly matched sides.
A fourth division team against a fourth rate shambles.
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When loose the replay at VP the 11000 or so that's there will be rather vocal I think.
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They wasn't exactly Bradford. They were a poor team which makes it more embarrassing.
And another thing the manager saying it's a confidence thing, well I'm sorry if you go 1 up and you still having got any confidence from that, when are you going to get any.
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No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
Except they fielded a bunch of kids and we went all out.
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No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
Difference was Liverpool played mostly kids/reserves (apart from Benteke of course). The worry is that was near enough our 'best' 11
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MON making some very good points much better than other muppets on BT.
What is he saying Olaftab?
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No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
That's my take on it.
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A massive well done to those fans confronting Richards about a lack of passion at the end.
What was his response?
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A massive well done to those fans confronting Richards about a lack of passion at the end.
What was his response?
He will update us all on twitter when he's out of the shower.
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No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
Liverpool put out a team of full of kids, with the exception of 1 or 2.
We played a 'full strength' team against a 4th division outfit.
There is no comparison.
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I think we can sometimes lose perspective against Premiership opposition, but it was exposed quite clearly today. I thought Bunn did OK and despite the odd misplaced pass, Clark and Okore looked fairly solid and seem to have somewhat of an understanding. He scored today, but Richards seemed intent on playing his own game and spent most of the game in forward positions.
That brings me on to the midfield. Westwood, Bacuna and Gana (I'd include Richardson in this) consistently give possession away when there is no real pressure on them. Some of passes they give away are the sort you would be disappointed to see from Sunday league players. Added to that, we had Westwood and Bacuna shirking out and losing tackles in midfield. Gil was lively, though things didn't always come off for him, and Sinclair and Gestede were anonymous. I thought Ayew and Veretout at least injected a bit of enthusiasm when they came on.
On that showing, we would eaten alive in the Championship. I would liken us to an old stately home that, apart from a couple of rooms, has fallen badly into disrepair and needs gutting. The problem that is you need people who know what they are doing on jobs like that or it can become worse very quickly.
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
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A massive well done to those fans confronting Richards about a lack of passion at the end.
I understand the frustration but ultimately what does that achieve? Is it going to make him work harder or better. Or as is likely it's only going create more Bacuna "fuck all this" pictures. They simply don't have the emotional investment we do
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We clearly should be able to win this game easily but that was a ridiculous penalty decision.
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Awful, awful display...and I have to say the selections, and especially taking Gil off, has for the first time made me question Garde's ability. We were powder-puff weak in our challenges, passes and first touches were terrible and there was almost no movement when in possession...shocking.
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Positives - we didn't get beat, Bunn did okay, the defence didn't fuck up for once and Richards scored and probably should have won us a penalty - had we got that and gone 2 up I am sure we would have gone on to win
Negatives - just about everything else really but special mention to Rudy Gestede - he is not and never will be a footballer, never mind a Championship footballer
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Positives - we didn't get beat, Bunn did okay, the defence didn't fuck up for once and Richards scored and probably should have won us a penalty - had we got that and gone 2 up I am sure we would have gone on to win
Negatives - just about everything else really but special mention to Rudy Gestede - he is not and never will be a footballer, never mind a Championship footballer
No, in cloud cuckoo land Sinclair and Gestede will tear up the Championship and we will piss it with about 100pts.
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A massive well done to those fans confronting Richards about a lack of passion at the end.
I understand the frustration but ultimately what does that achieve? Is it going to make him work harder or better. Or as is likely it's only going create more Bacuna "fuck all this" pictures. They simply don't have the emotional investment we do
Nothing seems able to motivate most of these players so it doesn't matter if we shout and swear at them does it? Makes me laugh when people say it will affect their performances - have they seen the results from the last 5 seasons?
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
Think you missed the don't care part.
He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion. Doesn't seem to have motivation skills, we still look tactically clueless, the substitutions have been consistently poor and he's yet to muster a win.
This ain't the club for him.
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He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion.
You say that as if Villa was an attractive proposition for a manager. Who on earth do you think we can get that would be better?
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He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion.
You say that as if Villa was an attractive proposition for a manager. Who on earth do you think we can get that would be better?
Better than the guy with 0 wins who keeps picking Westwood, Richardson, Bacuna and Gestede?
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I think Garde came in at a point when relegation was at least likely so presumably we recruited him on the basis that he could achieve something in the Championship. He has been handed a basket case and no transfer window yet so lets give him some space. This season is a write off anyway.
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He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion.
You say that as if Villa was an attractive proposition for a manager. Who on earth do you think we can get that would be better?
Better than the guy with 0 wins who keeps picking Westwood, Richardson, Bacuna and Gestede?
Who would you play instead of Westwood and Bacuna?
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
What he said in response above
What exactly has Garde done wrong? he looks as pained and confused as us. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes and in the dressing room than we know.
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Fair play to Richards, at least he spoke to the fans at the end.
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He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion.
You say that as if Villa was an attractive proposition for a manager. Who on earth do you think we can get that would be better?
Better than the guy with 0 wins who keeps picking Westwood, Richardson, Bacuna and Gestede?
Who would you play instead of Westwood and Bacuna?
u21 player and u21 player. They literally cannot do any worse.
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
What he said in response above
What exactly has Garde done wrong? he looks as pained and confused as us. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes and in the dressing room than we know.
Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
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Awful, awful display...and I have to say the selections, and especially taking Gil off, has for the first time made me question Garde's ability. We were powder-puff weak in our challenges, passes and first touches were terrible and there was almost no movement when in possession...shocking.
I think he took Gil off because he was displeased that Carles didn't go for Richards return pass behind their defence. Simple as that.
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
Think you missed the don't care part.
He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion. Doesn't seem to have motivation skills, we still look tactically clueless, the substitutions have been consistently poor and he's yet to muster a win.
This ain't the club for him.
No I didn't miss the don't care part, however until he has brought in the players that he would rather than the players that the club decided to bring in during the summer it is way to early to judge a manager. With the standard of players the board decided to get in on the cheap I honestly don't think any manager would get that pile of shit winning games regularly.
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
What he said in response above
What exactly has Garde done wrong? he looks as pained and confused as us. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes and in the dressing room than we know.
Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
I keep having a "would Sherwood have actually done anything different" conversation in my head - this is putting to one side the fact that Tim was a pillock...
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
What he said in response above
What exactly has Garde done wrong? he looks as pained and confused as us. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes and in the dressing room than we know.
On that basis we should've just kept Sherwood. Nothing, absolutely nothing, has changed since the manager switch. We have no cohesion, no tactical improvement, no technical improvement.
I realize it has become very difficult to be motivated to fight but tell me Nigel Pearson (who I wouldn't exactly fancy) wouldn't have a boot up some asses and get this squad to at least look like they're putting in a shift.
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Awful, awful display...and I have to say the selections, and especially taking Gil off, has for the first time made me question Garde's ability. We were powder-puff weak in our challenges, passes and first touches were terrible and there was almost no movement when in possession...shocking.
I think he took Gil off because he was displeased that Carles didn't go for Richards return pass behind their defence. Simple as that.
I think it was actually because Wycombe were on top and we know that Gil doesn't exactly offer much in terms of getting the ball back. He went to a diamond and we had far more of the ball. I'd say the substitutions worked
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Whoever thought Gestede was our striking solution should be at the Job Centre on Monday. It's past pathetic. There's absolutely no desire to find space or make a run, which is why we never score. I honestly think we could put a cardboard cut out on the half way line and we wouldn't notice a difference. Hell, a cardboard cut out might even stop the ball on occasions. I'm not blaming Garde. He took over a squad built by others that were already shot having lost 7 on the trot. There was no bounce because there's no quality there. It took Sherwood until the last minute of the WBA game to get going last year but he had Vlaar, Delph, Cleverley and Benteke to call upon who are all a cut above anything we have now and were key to our run last season. The managerial change came too late and didn't even give Garde a chance to have a honeymoon period - I mean the timing thus ensuring Man City and a rampant Everton were among his first few fixtures was ridiculous given the games we had before. We're obviously doomed in every facet and quite frankly I have no idea what happens next. We thought the last few seasons were bad, we though the GT2 and DOL days were bleak, we thought Ellis lacked ambition but this season has taken everything to a whole new level of crapness.
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He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion.
You say that as if Villa was an attractive proposition for a manager. Who on earth do you think we can get that would be better?
Better than the guy with 0 wins who keeps picking Westwood, Richardson, Bacuna and Gestede?
Who would you play instead of Westwood and Bacuna?
u21 player and u21 player. They literally cannot do any worse.
They could have lost today?
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I think Garde should be given the chance to change the squad as he sees fit in the summer, but I am becoming increasingly concerned about him. He looks lost.
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He isn't the man to revive the squad. Don't want him coaching at the Championship level. It was a poor appointment in my opinion.
You say that as if Villa was an attractive proposition for a manager. Who on earth do you think we can get that would be better?
Better than the guy with 0 wins who keeps picking Westwood, Richardson, Bacuna and Gestede?
Who would you play instead of Westwood and Bacuna?
u21 player and u21 player. They literally cannot do any worse.
They could have lost today?
We could have lost if Bacuna and Westwood hadn't played today? Pull the other one.
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Whoever thought Gestede was our striking solution should be at the Job Centre on Monday.
He's been there for two months already.
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i notice how the BBC website report how;
"Villa held by Div 2 Wycombe" (negative)
Whereas:
"Liverpool fight back to deny Exeter" (positive)
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Also, where's the actual match thread?
Match threads forum.
I'm sure it wasn't there a second ago!
It may have been temporarily hidden by somebody by accident.
But was swiftly put in the right place.
OOPS! Sorry. I was in a bit of a rush.
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i notice how the BBC website report how;
"Villa held by Div 2 Wycombe" (negative)
Whereas:
"Liverpool fight back to deny Exeter" (positive)
One game was played by an almost full strength side and the other was played almost entirely by young players who will never get a look in.
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I think he took Gil off because he was displeased that Carles didn't go for Richards return pass behind their defence. Simple as that.
That was my guess too, but...firstly, that's very petty and secondly, there's a possibility that Gil would have run off-side because Richards, for some inexplicable reason, decided to take a leisurely stroll to the ball before playing the pass.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
I was also thinking who the alternatives are.
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Still in the hat
think this is our year
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
Kozak could replace Gestede
Traore could have been tried instead of Sinclair
Richards could have played right back at any time
Okore should have had more game time at CB
U21 players?
Gary Gardner? Worse than Westwood? You reckon? Ask Forest fans what they think.
Lyden? Couple of minutes at the end of a turgid cup game? Waste of time.
There are things he could have done different.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
I was also thinking who the alternatives are.
I would have given Kozak a go by now. I would have played Hepburn-Murphy to see what he has. I might have given Kinsella a look. There isn't much but there are some players who seem to get picked however poorly they are playing. Certainly through the middle where the current option isn't an option at all.
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Ask yourself how shit Kozak must be in training day in day out to not get a look in. I never rated him before his injury personally, but he must be bloody useless in the week to not get a chance ahead of Gestede, who is fast becoming the worst player i've ever seen in the shirt
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
I was also thinking who the alternatives are.
I would have given Kozak a go by now. I would have played Hepburn-Murphy to see what he has. I might have given Kinsella a look. There isn't much but there are some players who seem to get picked however poorly they are playing. Certainly through the middle where the current option isn't an option at all.
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As to the poster who is trying to infer media bias about the headlines after the Liverpool/Exeter and Villa/Wycombe games- it's all down to the timing of the goals. Liverpool fought bacjpk from behind twice. We let a lead slip.
Hence different headlines.. Simple as.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
Kozak could replace Gestede
Traore could have been tried instead of Sinclair
Richards could have played right back at any time
Okore should have had more game time at CB
U21 players?
Gary Gardner? Worse than Westwood? You reckon? Ask Forest fans what they think.
Lyden? Couple of minutes at the end of a turgid cup game? Waste of time.
There are things he could have done different.
How about trying to get Jack some momentum.. we're already down.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
Kozak could replace Gestede
Traore could have been tried instead of Sinclair
Richards could have played right back at any time
Okore should have had more game time at CB
U21 players?
Gary Gardner? Worse than Westwood? You reckon? Ask Forest fans what they think.
Lyden? Couple of minutes at the end of a turgid cup game? Waste of time.
There are things he could have done different.
Traore is injured and Gardner is back on loan at Forest.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
Kozak could replace Gestede
Traore could have been tried instead of Sinclair
Richards could have played right back at any time
Okore should have had more game time at CB
U21 players?
Gary Gardner? Worse than Westwood? You reckon? Ask Forest fans what they think.
Lyden? Couple of minutes at the end of a turgid cup game? Waste of time.
There are things he could have done different.
Traore is injured and Gardner is back on loan at Forest.
Which happened in the last few days. Explain the previous few months of non selection.
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i notice how the BBC website report how;
"Villa held by Div 2 Wycombe" (negative)
Whereas:
"Liverpool fight back to deny Exeter" (positive)
One game was played by an almost full strength side and the other was played almost entirely by young players who will never get a look in.
The Dippers went behind twice and came back to equalise; that is fighting back. Aston Villa led once and let Wycombe, Div 4 Wycombe, equalise. I have no problem with the BBC's phrasing in either case.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
I was also thinking who the alternatives are.
I would have given Kozak a go by now. I would have played Hepburn-Murphy to see what he has. I might have given Kinsella a look. There isn't much but there are some players who seem to get picked however poorly they are playing. Certainly through the middle where the current option isn't an option at all.
Add to that list Sinclair. Despite being our top goalscorer, he hasn't been involved since the beginning of the season.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
At this point I would drop Richardson, Bacuna, Westwood & Gestede and just replace them with players from our academy. We have fuck all to lose.
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Add to that list Sinclair. Despite being our top goalscorer, he hasn't been involved since the beginning of the season.
eh?
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Gana needs to be dropped too, but who could replace him ?
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Gana needs to be dropped too, but who could replace him ?
a golden retriever
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Gana needs to be dropped too, but who could replace him ?
Anyone from the U21's. We've got nothing to lose by playing kids, absolutely nothing. Some of these chancers aren't even trying. Unless the club is so rotten the kids won't be trying either of course.
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On the basis that going into the game I thought we'd 'do a Villa' and concede late on, I'll take this result. But will we ever beat someone we probably should beat again?
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yes, even though it appears right now than we can't.
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A massive well done to those fans confronting Richards about a lack of passion at the end.
What was his response?
By the way I'm not about the idiots swearing at Gestede in his face virtually. I heard the fan say there is no passion on that pitch and accused them of not trying. Richards was just trying to say they were trying he was very calm and looked as if he had some empathy albeit I couldn't hear what he was saying.
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
What he said in response above
What exactly has Garde done wrong? he looks as pained and confused as us. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes and in the dressing room than we know.
I thought Garde spoke very well afterwards and pointed to the fact that we stopped playing when we scored which was entirely right. What is worrying thing is that they don't appear to be playing for him. Finally the boos when he took Gil off were totally unfair. Gil was on his last legs so it made sense.
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
What he said in response above
What exactly has Garde done wrong? he looks as pained and confused as us. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes and in the dressing room than we know.
I thought Garde spoke very well afterwards and pointed to the fact that we stopped playing when we scored which was entirely right. What is worrying thing is that they don't appear to be playing for him. Finally the boos when he took Gil off were totally unfair. Gil was on his last legs so it made sense.
Interesting info in the Remi thread regarding his relationship with the squad and his match day habits.
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Garde was just a gamble, just like all the players we signed in the summer.
Just at the very time we shouldn't have taken a gamble, we did...
But that's par for the course nowadays. The wrong decision at the wrong time.
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Positives - we didn't get beat, Bunn did okay, the defence didn't fuck up for once and Richards scored and probably should have won us a penalty - had we got that and gone 2 up I am sure we would have gone on to win
Negatives - just about everything else really but special mention to Rudy Gestede - he is not and never will be a footballer, never mind a Championship footballer
except he's already proven himself as a championship striker?
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Garde was just a gamble, just like all the players we signed in the summer.
Just at the very time we shouldn't have taken a gamble, we did...
Which players and managers aren't gambles? There is nothing that is guaranteed.
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Positives - we didn't get beat, Bunn did okay, the defence didn't fuck up for once and Richards scored and probably should have won us a penalty - had we got that and gone 2 up I am sure we would have gone on to win
Negatives - just about everything else really but special mention to Rudy Gestede - he is not and never will be a footballer, never mind a Championship footballer
except he's already proven himself as a championship striker?
How has he proven himself? I could list a ton of striker who have scored a lot of goals in one season and then never got anywhere near it again.
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Gana needs to be dropped too, but who could replace him ?
a golden retriever
lol
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And the villa go marching on on on.
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Of course nothing is guaranteed.
Your brand new bmw can break down but probably won't.
Your third hand Nissan might not cause you any problems, but probably will.
No guarantees, just probabilities...
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Of course nothing is guaranteed.
Your brand new bmw can break down but probably won't.
Your third hand Nissan might not cause you any problems, but probably will.
No guarantees, just probabilities...
Who was the 'brand new BMW' that we should have employed as our manager?
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What makes you think there was a brand new bmw??!
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There wasn't, we are shopping at the Swiss Tony second hand car lot.
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What makes you think there was a brand new bmw??!
I don't think there was. But that was your example of the safer gamble that we should have been taking with our manager and new signings.
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No, that was my example to show that there are no guarantees.
Of course there are no guarantees- that's a meaningless statement. I mean nobody can even guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow. There are only probabilities, though
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There wasn't, we are shopping at the Swiss Tony second hand car lot.
paul watching aston villa is a lot like being forcibly taken by an ugly woman
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Garbage performance. Even against league two oppo some our players struggle. Richards, despite scoring, sulked his way through the game, gestede is truly awful. Oh dear oh dear, painful.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/685843254298808321
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I don't think Gestede is lazy. I just think he's dim and doesn't understand when and where to move.
He makes Gabby Agbonlahor look like Garry Kasparov.
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Just commented on this on FB. Fair play Micah Richards.
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I don't think Gestede is lazy. I just think he's dim and doesn't understand when and where to move.
He makes Gabby Agbonlahor look like Garry Kasparov.
Gestede had a ''running'' coach to teach him how and when to make runs a few seasons ago.
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I would much prefer Micah Richards to walk the walk not talking the social media talk.
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
I was also thinking who the alternatives are.
I would have given Kozak a go by now. I would have played Hepburn-Murphy to see what he has. I might have given Kinsella a look. There isn't much but there are some players who seem to get picked however poorly they are playing. Certainly through the middle where the current option isn't an option at all.
kozak?
exactly
Id have played him today against a fourth division team . If he was a shit as Gestede , then we could have put him to bed and say we all now know hes shit and this is why hes not being picked . We still have no Idea but we already knew before this game Gested is f####### hopeless.
But we dont know . Yes he might be as shit as a redundant floodlight but Mcgrath , is he any worse than one of the worse players Ive seen down Villa .
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Keeps picking the same players we already know are failures. We look every bit as shambolic as at any time during this season.
Who would you be picking ?
At this point I would drop Richardson, Bacuna, Westwood & Gestede and just replace them with players from our academy. We have fuck all to lose.
agree
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Gary Gardner played for forest today .
Went straight into the team after his loan deal yesterday.
Surely he would have been a better option than Westwood or Bacuna .
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There wasn't, we are shopping at the Swiss Tony second hand car lot.
paul watching aston villa is a lot like being forcibly taken by an ugly woman
You'll be hearing from my solicitor, why drag my missus into this?
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
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Gary Gardner played for forest today .
Went straight into the team after his loan deal yesterday.
Surely he would have been a better option than Westwood or Bacuna .
what does Bacuna actually do?
I know what Richardson is trying to do but he does not exceed in being a footballer but Bacuna is one of the reasons we are where we are at with a dozen other buffoons
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
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Bacuna is like Westwood in the fact they've played a staggering amount of games for Villa despite being absolutely appalling footballers. Before our decline they'd have been found out and shipped out after a handful of games but now they've been allowed to stay and fester in the team.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Jesus wept.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
At some point this season, possibly when we hit 30 games without a win there is going to be some really really ugly scenes.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Jesus, that helps how?
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
They are and we know I think.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
The players are way out of their depth but they don't deserve that pathetic abuse though.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.
It's not going to help at all, but then nothing will, we are done for this season. No team spirit, no bond, no cohesion, no nothing It's just supporters now who are hitting their limit after following these jokes across the country for the past 5 years. It's been a long time coming, endless support and endless defeats. It was going to end somewhere.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
All the same, it's not pleasant.
Would you do it to a bloke in the street? I wouldn't.
What did the great man say ? 'that's another human being you're attacking?'.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
The players are way out of their depth but they don't deserve that pathetic abuse though.
I didn't say they did, I said it's not sinister Ie something evil or harmful will happen. The only thing evil that will happen is the same fans will probably be watching us lose to Palace on a cold, wet, Tuesday night.
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Garde out. Don't care.
Awful, awful team. Sour club. Not a single person, top to bottom, is even adequate at their job.
Garde out? Which of the players he has brought into the team should he be sacked for ?
What he said in response above
What exactly has Garde done wrong? he looks as pained and confused as us. There's clearly more going on behind the scenes and in the dressing room than we know.
I thought Garde spoke very well afterwards and pointed to the fact that we stopped playing when we scored which was entirely right. What is worrying thing is that they don't appear to be playing for him. Finally the boos when he took Gil off were totally unfair. Gil was on his last legs so it made sense.
I also thought I caught him saying that although they were trying, they weren't doing what he asked of them before the game and again at half-time. From his expression I suspect he'll be doing something about that.
Call it a misguided clutch at some small straw, but I think some players may not see the first team any time soon. I have my wax doll of Gestede ready and waiting.
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Highlights (for want of a better word) (https://vid.me/Jk6x)
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I approve of this new rating system Can someone tell me does wanker rate below f.... prick?
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Jesus wept.
Pathetic behaviour. Do these people realise that kids attend these games. Some of those knobheads may have even had their nippers with them.
We might be shite. The players might not be giving their all and do deserve stick, but there's a line and that's well and truly crossing it. Booing is more than enough to get the point across.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
All the same, it's not pleasant.
Would you do it to a bloke in the street? I wouldn't.
What did the great man say ? 'that's another human being you're attacking?'.
I wouldn't do it to a random bloke on the street no, but then I wouldn't have been following him around for 5 years paying him money to make me feel miserable. It's not right, they do deserve dogs abuse though, the effort isn't there as well as the talent, but neither is calling someone a wanker sinister is it?
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I approve of this new rating system Can someone tell me does wanker rate below f.... prick?
Wanker is below prick, which is just above knobhead.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.
It's not going to help at all, but then nothing will, we are done for this season. No team spirit, no bond, no cohesion, no nothing It's just supporters now who are hitting their limit after following these jokes across the country for the past 5 years. It's been a long time coming, endless support and endless defeats. It was going to end somewhere.
exactly
the fans have been brilliant for years , spending most of their money watching these useless millionaires and what have the players shown?
It was going to happen one day , Im suprised it took so long .
I dont like abuse but the players have been abusing my soul for years and will be driving round in their ferraris later , and this wont bother them with c#### like nzogbia and Agbonlahor ..
I think a lot of fans were pissed off with Bacuna laughing through the game .
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Nothing wrong with that. Worse has been typed on here. A lot worse.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
The players are way out of their depth but they don't deserve that pathetic abuse though.
I didn't say they did, I said it's not sinister Ie something evil or harmful will happen. The only thing evil that will happen is the same fans will probably be watching us lose to Palace on a cold, wet, Tuesday night.
I didn't mean it like that. I'm all for protest, but Christ just abusing the players like that is embarrassing and to be honest I don't think they deserve it.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Jesus wept.
Pathetic behaviour. Do these people realise that kids attend these games. Some of those knobheads may have even had their nippers with them.
We might be shite. The players might not be giving their all and do deserve stick, but there's a line and that's well and truly crossing it. Booing is more than enough to get the point across.
Yup, agree with all that.
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Perhaps they are doing the managers job for him.
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I wonder what will be the first question Tom Fox will face at the Villa Trust AGM - 2 days after the humiliating home defeat to a 4th Division club?
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Fox needs to pack his bags, terrible appointment well above his ability and know how.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Jesus wept.
Pathetic behaviour. Do these people realise that kids attend these games. Some of those knobheads may have even had their nippers with them.
We might be shite. The players might not be giving their all and do deserve stick, but there's a line and that's well and truly crossing it. Booing is more than enough to get the point across.
Made this point on another thread, how is this any different to 40,000 people calling a referee a wanker every week.
And how likely is it kids are going to still be there outside the coach at that point.
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Fox needs to pack his bags, terrible appointment well above his ability and know how.
hey hes doing well with shirts ..
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.
It's not going to help at all, but then nothing will, we are done for this season. No team spirit, no bond, no cohesion, no nothing It's just supporters now who are hitting their limit after following these jokes across the country for the past 5 years. It's been a long time coming, endless support and endless defeats. It was going to end somewhere.
I dont like abuse but the players have been abusing my soul for years and will be driving round in their ferraris later , and this wont bother them with c#### like nzogbia and Agbonlahor ..
Some probably don't care, but some probably do. Some of them try and just plainly aren't good enough, so that kind of abuse can get to people. Just because they earn big money doesn't make them immune to that.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.
nothing will make this team of fuckwits try harder, just look at the last twenty games
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.
It's not going to help at all, but then nothing will, we are done for this season. No team spirit, no bond, no cohesion, no nothing It's just supporters now who are hitting their limit after following these jokes across the country for the past 5 years. It's been a long time coming, endless support and endless defeats. It was going to end somewhere.
exactly
the fans have been brilliant for years , spending most of their money watching these useless millionaires and what have the players shown?
It was going to happen one day , Im suprised it took so long .
I dont like abuse but the players have been abusing my soul for years and will be driving round in their ferraris later , and this wont bother them with c#### like nzogbia and Agbonlahor ..
I think a lot of fans were pissed off with Bacuna laughing through the game .
a bloke who has paid his money to follow the team and has to cntinually watch a bunch of multi millionaires not give a fuck every week and break every unwanted record.
sinister?
i would start him in central midfield on tuesday, at least he gives a fuck
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Wow. So much for my belief in an easy win. I refuse to call thinking we would easily beat Wycombe "optimism".
Bloody hell. No new signings either.
So essentially Remi is just marking time till the end of the season when he will be off then.
Great, just great.
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OK so it's obvious the players aren't good enough it's clear to see and to a degree they deserve a lot of the stick they are getting but real culprits are well hidden out of the way and as usual letting the current manager and players take all the stick and abuse
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I to think bacuna cares
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Yes 2 PWS. Still no win for Garde. Third squad needs huge surgery.
No point in operating on a corpse.
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Fox needs to pack his bags, terrible appointment well above his ability and know how.
Him & the vast majority of so-called players, backroom staff, owner, recruitment muppets, quite possibly the manager, directors...
I'm glad I only suffered the radio commentary & didn't see it in full & inglorious shite-o-vision. Just when we thought it couldn't get much worse, we manage to throw away a lead at a 2nd Division outfit - & now in all likelyhood we'll have to suffer the associated misery of an inevitable defeat in the 'home' replay. This club is now less of a car crash & more of a multiple pile-up. I thoroughly despise what this collection of tossers have done to the Villa. A huge Fuck off to the lot of 'em. And then some. No wonder they were getting dogs abuse when they buggered off on the coach this evening. I'd have made 'em walk back to Birmingham.
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Seems today was the straw... It's been a long time coming, it's just a crying shame that gormless twunt Lerner wasn't there to receive the long overdue dogs abuse he deserves.
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I to think bacuna cares
I don't.
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Lowest point ever as a Villa fan seeing that tweet, I am 61 and seen some bad times but this infighting and vitriol is the ugliest period in our history.
Only one person is responsible for where we are at as it's his sole ownership and bad decisions which have got us to this terrible state. Very sad.
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Lowest point ever as a Villa fan seeing that tweet, I am 61 and seen some bad times but this infighting and vitriol is the ugliest period in our history.
Only one person is responsible for where we are at as it's his sole ownership and bad decisions which have got us to this terrible state. Very sad.
Saddened me as well. I fear it's going to get very poisonous at Villa Park soon and I'm not exactly looking forward to being in the middle of it
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Lowest point ever as a Villa fan seeing that tweet, I am 61 and seen some bad times but this infighting and vitriol is the ugliest period in our history.
Only one person is responsible for where we are at as it's his sole ownership and bad decisions which have got us to this terrible state. Very sad.
Was thinking similar my friend.
Listening to Garde saying the team weren't doing what he asked.
The abject "efforts" of Gestede, Bacuna, Westwood etc
Various videos popping up regarding fan unrest.
We keep thinking we've hit the bottom (I hoped it was the Cup Final) but clearly we have a long way to go.
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Fox needs to pack his bags, terrible appointment well above his ability and know how.
hey hes doing well with shirts ..
Worse than Faulkner. Thats a special kind of shit.
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Lowest point ever as a Villa fan seeing that tweet, I am 61 and seen some bad times but this infighting and vitriol is the ugliest period in our history.
Only one person is responsible for where we are at as it's his sole ownership and bad decisions which have got us to this terrible state. Very sad.
Was thinking similar my friend.
Listening to Garde saying the team weren't doing what he asked.
The abject "efforts" of Gestede, Bacuna, Westwood etc
Various videos popping up regarding fan unrest.
We keep thinking we've hit the bottom (I hoped it was the Cup Final) but clearly we have a long way to go.
I remember when Wolves went down to League One and their fans ran on and trashed parts of Molineux. That's not a scene in want played out at Villa Park.
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On the flip side, we have also shown dignity today which shouldn't get lost in the negativity.....
Gareth Ainswort on the Beeb
The Villa fans were more generous to the Wanderers players, who they applauded from the field.
"It's great and just fantastic for the Villa fans to clap us off, because they are in a bit of disarray at the moment," said Wycombe boss Gareth Ainsworth.
"So for them to have the respect to do that for my boys, I'd just say thank you.
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Other teams such as Leicester/Everton/Southampton manage on relatively small budgets - the size of the wad should not be made an excuse for where we are today.
It is the way in which the lack of funds are managed.
Quite clearly there are non football men who have moved into Villa Park and have no idea whatsoever.
Alex Ferguson/Bill Shankly and Bertie Mee would not get us out of this rut.
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I would much prefer Micah Richards to walk the walk not talking the social media talk.
First time here for a long time as I couldn't pluck up enough courage to come and read all that I knew would be said, most of it spot on.
I agree with Brian and I viewed Richards playing his own game, nothing to do with the team, making a point that he didn't want to be playing in the position he was in today.He scored a goal and then looked as if he wanted to be off the pitch as soon as possible.
The interchange with Gil in my mind was to put Gil in poor light too.
The interchange with the fans was PR ( for his benefit too)
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Gestede was dreadful, I can not understand why he stayed on.
This must be the worst squad of crap players we have assembled since the 60,s.
I still think Garde needs a chance, with the Gill substitution, He had moved down the right and passed the ball to Richards, he in turn passed it into space but Gil had stopped running and the ball went no where.
Garde was apoplectic on the bench and threw his water bottle into the dug out in temper. Obviously a training ground plan Gil had forgotten about. He was then substituted.
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Positives - we didn't get beat, Bunn did okay, the defence didn't fuck up for once and Richards scored and probably should have won us a penalty - had we got that and gone 2 up I am sure we would have gone on to win
Negatives - just about everything else really but special mention to Rudy Gestede - he is not and never will be a footballer, never mind a Championship footballer
Clearly struggling with us but 32 goals in the last 60 championship appearances suggests otherwise.
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Well done to Da Beeb for finding two and a half minutes highlights to put on their website out of that rubbish.
Definite penalty for me. Westwood took his eye of the ball and just jumped into the player
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.
It's not going to help at all, but then nothing will, we are done for this season. No team spirit, no bond, no cohesion, no nothing It's just supporters now who are hitting their limit after following these jokes across the country for the past 5 years. It's been a long time coming, endless support and endless defeats. It was going to end somewhere.
I dont like abuse but the players have been abusing my soul for years and will be driving round in their ferraris later , and this wont bother them with c#### like nzogbia and Agbonlahor ..
Some probably don't care, but some probably do. Some of them try and just plainly aren't good enough, so that kind of abuse can get to people. Just because they earn big money doesn't make them immune to that.
well we will see Tom , next game? Im not going to lose sleep over a few people calling Bacuna a wanker.
Ive been called worse .
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Well done to Da Beeb for finding two and a half minutes highlights to put on their website out of that rubbish.
Definite penalty for me. Westwood took his eye of the ball and just jumped into the player
you cant be doing Jackie Chan on a football pitch . He has to use his brain. There was no real danger but the player is absolute useless.
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I've seen footage of one player seeming to tell fans to fuck off. And footage of another player apparently giving fans the v sign. Rumours of a split dressing room and that the manager can't manage. A hierarchy that seems to consist of over-promoted barrow boys and number crunchers. A board member that seizes every chance to make both himself and the club look clueless in the media. And an owner who doesn't bother to turn up unless there's a chance to sit somewhere near royalty.
Still there are positives. We now know that we can give fourth division sides a run for their money.
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Bacuna is like Westwood in the fact they've played a staggering amount of games for Villa despite being absolutely appalling footballers. Before our decline they'd have been found out and shipped out after a handful of games but now they've been allowed to stay and fester in the team.
Not just allowed to stay and fester, but rewarded with new long term contracts. You truly couldn't make it up.
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Although I think someone needs a thesaurus, and I concour with Sir Graham somewhat, something makes me believe that players being exposed to such ugliness may do some good.
When faced with such anger there are two choices: fight or flight.
The over riding thought is that the odd one will fight but most will indeed laugh, look at their bank account and ruminate on which club they will play for next.
The f#@#@ b#@##@@ f#@$#@ c##@!
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Gestede was dreadful, I can not understand why he stayed on.
This must be the worst squad of crap players we have assembled since the 60,s.
I still think Garde needs a chance, with the Gill substitution, He had moved down the right and passed the ball to Richards, he in turn passed it into space but Gil had stopped running and the ball went no where.
Garde was apoplectic on the bench and threw his water bottle into the dug out in temper. Obviously a training ground plan Gil had forgotten about. He was then substituted.
He was hardly apoplectic.
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I can't believe so many people on here are so adamant that it was a definite penalty, if you watch it he didn't even look at the player until he'd jumped, if you give that you could honestly give 3-4 every game. The only thing that differentiates it from 90% of aerial challenges from long balls is that they were facing each other. When you add the fact that we didn't get the penalty in the first half and it's clear that the ref had a big hand in turning the game around. That's not excusing the performance or making excuses, it's just pointing out that we were on the wrong end of 2 poor penalty decisions which could completely changed the game.
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I can't believe so many people on here are so adamant that it was a definite penalty, if you watch it he didn't even look at the player until he'd jumped, if you give that you could honestly give 3-4 every game. The only thing that differentiates it from 90% of aerial challenges from long balls is that they were facing each other. When you add the fact that we didn't get the penalty in the first half and it's clear that the ref had a big hand in turning the game around. That's not excusing the performance or making excuses, it's just pointing out that we were on the wrong end of 2 poor penalty decisions which could completely changed the game.
Anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul, therefore correct decision.
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I've seen footage of one player seeming to tell fans to fuck off. And footage of another player apparently giving fans the v sign. Rumours of a split dressing room and that the manager can't manage. A hierarchy that seems to consist of over-promoted barrow boys and number crunchers. A board member that seizes every chance to make both himself and the club look clueless in the media. And an owner who doesn't bother to turn up unless there's a chance to sit somewhere near royalty.
Still there are positives. We now know that we can give fourth division sides a run for their money.
But he's such a nice man you know Mr Lerner, he's just trying to do the right thing by us, don't you understand that? Because I sure as hell f*****g don't
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Gestede was dreadful, I can not understand why he stayed on.
This must be the worst squad of crap players we have assembled since the 60,s.
I still think Garde needs a chance, with the Gill substitution, He had moved down the right and passed the ball to Richards, he in turn passed it into space but Gil had stopped running and the ball went no where.
Garde was apoplectic on the bench and threw his water bottle into the dug out in temper. Obviously a training ground plan Gil had forgotten about. He was then substituted.
He was hardly apoplectic.
It was the most animated I have seen him
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Seeing all these videos on social media, this is going to turn poisonous I feel.
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I've seen footage of one player seeming to tell fans to fuck off. And footage of another player apparently giving fans the v sign. Rumours of a split dressing room and that the manager can't manage. A hierarchy that seems to consist of over-promoted barrow boys and number crunchers. A board member that seizes every chance to make both himself and the club look clueless in the media. And an owner who doesn't bother to turn up unless there's a chance to sit somewhere near royalty.
Still there are positives. We now know that we can give fourth division sides a run for their money.
But he's such a nice man you know Mr Lerner, he's just trying to do the right thing by us, don't you understand that? Because I sure as hell f*****g don't
You come out with this sort of snide shit every week. Pack it in or you're banned. And variations of "Yes you're right" will see you going the same way.
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I've seen footage of one player seeming to tell fans to fuck off. And footage of another player apparently giving fans the v sign. Rumours of a split dressing room and that the manager can't manage. A hierarchy that seems to consist of over-promoted barrow boys and number crunchers. A board member that seizes every chance to make both himself and the club look clueless in the media. And an owner who doesn't bother to turn up unless there's a chance to sit somewhere near royalty.
Still there are positives. We now know that we can give fourth division sides a run for their money.
Yes, unfortunately we didn't look out of place playing them.
Having witnessed the last 3 away games hoping for, or even daring to expect at least 2 wins, I know the players aren't good enough technically, physically or mentally; however personal abuse is not warranted.
They may be getting thousands a week and they should be doing a whole lot better, despite their obvious limitations, but I think that given the horrendous run, some individuals are bound to be psychologically affected by now.
Team selection doesn't help though. No Ayew nor Veretout and Gestede and Sinclair start up front. Garde perseveres with players that he must know are not up to it and he knows that we know that too, which just adds to the frustration and causes ever more vitriol from fans.
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I saw the final 30 minutes and I didn't think we were that bad. Just lacking a bit of luck.
I'm blaming the pitch for the lack of the quality as neither team seemed to master it [is there a different rugby team playing there now that Wasps have left?]
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I can't believe so many people on here are so adamant that it was a definite penalty, if you watch it he didn't even look at the player until he'd jumped, if you give that you could honestly give 3-4 every game. The only thing that differentiates it from 90% of aerial challenges from long balls is that they were facing each other. When you add the fact that we didn't get the penalty in the first half and it's clear that the ref had a big hand in turning the game around. That's not excusing the performance or making excuses, it's just pointing out that we were on the wrong end of 2 poor penalty decisions which could completely changed the game.
Anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul, therefore correct decision.
That's the point, no it isn't, you see 1 player jump whilst the other stays on the floor a hell of a lot and it's very rarely given as a foul, even with light contact such as this case. The problem is lots of fans don't like Westwood and this is another reason to slag him off so "he's an idiot and it's 100% a penalty".
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A lot of the time you'll get away with that challenge, but I can see why it was given, mainly because of the elbow.
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I can't believe so many people on here are so adamant that it was a definite penalty, if you watch it he didn't even look at the player until he'd jumped, if you give that you could honestly give 3-4 every game. The only thing that differentiates it from 90% of aerial challenges from long balls is that they were facing each other. When you add the fact that we didn't get the penalty in the first half and it's clear that the ref had a big hand in turning the game around. That's not excusing the performance or making excuses, it's just pointing out that we were on the wrong end of 2 poor penalty decisions which could completely changed the game.
Anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul, therefore correct decision.
That's the point, no it isn't, you see 1 player jump whilst the other stays on the floor a hell of a lot and it's very rarely given as a foul, even with light contact such as this case. The problem is lots of fans don't like Westwood and this is another reason to slag him off so "he's an idiot and it's 100% a penalty".
It was a dodgy decision. It could just about be justified in super slow mo but it was incredibly soft. Having said which, we still should have won. Will we score more than one in a game with Remi in charge? Will it come before a win? Exciting times.
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Other teams such as Leicester/Everton/Southampton manage on relatively small budgets - the size of the wad should not be made an excuse for where we are today.
It is the way in which the lack of funds are managed.
Quite clearly there are non football men who have moved into Villa Park and have no idea whatsoever.
Alex Ferguson/Bill Shankly and Bertie Mee would not get us out of this rut.
Leicester are owned by Thai Billionaires that have a shed load of cash. Their bench is quite frequently worth 40-50m. They have spent 30m on strikers in the last couple of years but all that spoils the "plucky underdogs" narrative. Drives me nuts when people harp on about them being ran on a shoe string.
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I can't believe so many people on here are so adamant that it was a definite penalty, if you watch it he didn't even look at the player until he'd jumped, if you give that you could honestly give 3-4 every game. The only thing that differentiates it from 90% of aerial challenges from long balls is that they were facing each other. When you add the fact that we didn't get the penalty in the first half and it's clear that the ref had a big hand in turning the game around. That's not excusing the performance or making excuses, it's just pointing out that we were on the wrong end of 2 poor penalty decisions which could completely changed the game.
Anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul, therefore correct decision.
That's the point, no it isn't, you see 1 player jump whilst the other stays on the floor a hell of a lot and it's very rarely given as a foul, even with light contact such as this case. The problem is lots of fans don't like Westwood and this is another reason to slag him off so "he's an idiot and it's 100% a penalty".
It was a dodgy decision. It could just about be justified in super slow mo but it was incredibly soft. Having said which, we still should have won. Will we score more than one in a game with Remi in charge? Will it come before a win? Exciting times.
Exactly my point, you can, at a stretch, understand it being given but it's one that if it goes against your team is never a foul and one that if it's not given for you is forgotten before the final whistle.
A lot of the time you'll get away with that challenge, but I can see why it was given, mainly because of the elbow.
Elbow is a bit much, hand softly to the face as he tried to turn out of the challenge and ensure he landed on his feet is closer to the mark.
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A minute in, it's more of a forearm but I can still why it's given.
https://vid.me/Jk6x
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I think we'll be okay in the replay as it'll be played on grass instead
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Right or wrong, those decisions only go one way when you are in freefall.
The bigger issue is we should not be concerned about a penalty when playing Wycome Wanderers FFS.
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Right or wrong, those decisions only go one way when you are in freefall.
The bigger issue is we should not be concerned about a penalty when playing Wycome Wanderers FFS.
When your confidence is fucked any game is tough, the 2 penalty decisions were probably enough to destroy the belief we had, especially when the players have been told by the press (and fans given the poll on here) for a week that the game had upset written all over it. I agree it's the sort of decision that goes against you when you're struggling (and the Gestede one that hit the bar/post goes in against a team that's struggling or for a team full of confidence) what I'm upset by is the number of villa fans who are accepting it as the right decision, when Savage is saying we've been unlucky and our own fans are disagreeing then you have to worry.
From the vid it's interesting to note the reaction of their players, none of them appeal (the nearest guy looks at the ref and then looks a bit hocked when they get the decision) that's telling for me. The arm (I thought it was his hand but I agree it's his forearm that makes contact) to the head is clumsy but nothing more and I still maintain that if there's no whistle that's not one you'd ever hear about again.
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I can't believe so many people on here are so adamant that it was a definite penalty, if you watch it he didn't even look at the player until he'd jumped, if you give that you could honestly give 3-4 every game. The only thing that differentiates it from 90% of aerial challenges from long balls is that they were facing each other. When you add the fact that we didn't get the penalty in the first half and it's clear that the ref had a big hand in turning the game around. That's not excusing the performance or making excuses, it's just pointing out that we were on the wrong end of 2 poor penalty decisions which could completely changed the game.
Anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul, therefore correct decision.
That's the point, no it isn't, you see 1 player jump whilst the other stays on the floor a hell of a lot and it's very rarely given as a foul, even with light contact such as this case. The problem is lots of fans don't like Westwood and this is another reason to slag him off so "he's an idiot and it's 100% a penalty".
It was a dodgy decision. It could just about be justified in super slow mo but it was incredibly soft. Having said which, we still should have won. Will we score more than one in a game with Remi in charge? Will it come before a win? Exciting times.
Exactly my point, you can, at a stretch, understand it being given but it's one that if it goes against your team is never a foul and one that if it's not given for you is forgotten before the final whistle.
A lot of the time you'll get away with that challenge, but I can see why it was given, mainly because of the elbow.
Elbow is a bit much, hand softly to the face as he tried to turn out of the challenge and ensure he landed on his feet is closer to the mark.
I think from one angle (possibly the one the ref saw it from) it did look like an elbow, which should have been a penalty and yellow card. The others showed it wasn't an elbow and I still think it was a very soft decision.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
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Nose alert...
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Gestede was dreadful, I can not understand why he stayed on.
This must be the worst squad of crap players we have assembled since the 60,s.
I still think Garde needs a chance, with the Gill substitution, He had moved down the right and passed the ball to Richards, he in turn passed it into space but Gil had stopped running and the ball went no where.
Garde was apoplectic on the bench and threw his water bottle into the dug out in temper. Obviously a training ground plan Gil had forgotten about. He was then substituted.
Richards should not have passed ? He could see that Gil hadn't moved forward ?
Garde was angry and understandably.
I'm glad Garde is starting to throw water bottles about.
Strange substitution to me. Gil was one of our better players.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Nose alert?
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I didn't think we were too bad in the first half without doing very much. Controlled it and looked fairly comfortable. The second half was dreadful though. We just didn't seem to know how to cope with their goal. Garde's right, we're too bloody fragile.
I've only seen the penalty back again once and it looked harsh but maybe I need to see it again.
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We were miles better than them, we just went to pieces in the final third as usual. Get the second goal and we'd have won but we simply can't put games to bed.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Nose alert?
At least the Heathen didn't start a new thread. Be thankful for that.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Have spoken to one of my mates who went down today and he was disgusted at some of our fans. Reckoned some were throwing things at Remi as he walked down the tunnel and that he looked genuinely scared by the fans reaction.
I don't think he realised how poisonous the club is when he took the job and he must be really fed up of the place already.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
1/10 and not fooling anyone. In case you are wondering, the 1 is for using "their" instead of "there", an achievement way beyond the capabilities of the majority of your knuckledragging support.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Dear Nose,
I can smell you a mile off.
Love Villan from Birmingham
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Well said quinton villa
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
jesus wept cant you just post on your own board with its 15 members
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Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
You mean Walsall?
Besides pipe down, you lot just lost to Bournemouth. The only team other than you we are capable of beating even at our lowest point.
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He might be from the other lot. They've got more form than Noses.
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Those gates of 14,000 are something to crow about though to be fair.
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A minute in, it's more of a forearm but I can still why it's given.
https://vid.me/Jk6x
Thanks for that link Pete. I saw it as Westwood catching the player's head with his clenched hand, so I blame him for his complete stupidity. I'd be calling for a pen if it was the other way round.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
How much does it grind you that the shittest Villa team in almost 30 years, setting record after record of negativity, fans and players turning on ech other, just drew with Wycombe of league 2, but still beat your lot at walking pace? It fucking hurts doesn't it?
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A minute in, it's more of a forearm but I can still why it's given.
https://vid.me/Jk6x
Thanks for that link Pete. I saw it as Westwood catching the player's head with his clenched hand, so I blame him for his complete stupidity. I'd be calling for a pen if it was the other way round.
It's not a penalty, but it's his own silly fault for it being given by taking off when there was no need to rather than just standing there.
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Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
You mean Walsall?
Besides pipe down, you lot just lost to Bournemouth. The only team other than you we are capable of beating even at our lowest point.
Yep. They seem to forget that they lost to us this season with Gestede scoring the winner. How embarrassing!
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He'll either be a nose or a bitter. Either way he'll be celebrating how much better their result was today. One lost at home to Bournemouth reserves the other needed a last minute equaliser at home to a bottom 3 Championship side.
So after that glory how do you spend your Saturday evening? You register and post on the forum of another club. Sad twat.
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The fans having a go at the players getting on the bus achieves nothing. Whilst the WUM from wherever he's from is clearly taking the piss and if is from one of our neighbours or not, (which after today's results I'd say only a Walsall fan can claim any sort of triumph) it's not something I've never een before and is quite shocking to see.
The worst of it is, I actually don't think it's the players the fans really have the issue with. They are just the bunch that have been bought to do a job, and many are totally out of their depth. It's just they're the ones on the shop floor, it's the owners that we really want to have a go at.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Hi Gavin!
My Perfect day:
27th February 2011 Birmingham City 2 Arsenal 1, enough said!
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I think the only time this season our players seem to have "stopped trying" was for Sunderland's 3rd goal. Other than that I don't think you can say they're not trying, they're just shite.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Nose alert?
I've a nose for this kind of wind up, I smell a nose
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Know now (just for the intelligent one) !!
I take exception to that.
I was merely pointing out the following;
Shouldn't fans stick together ?
Is it right to use racist language and vile swear words in front of women and children banging the coach windows at ranting at every player?
Will is help?
I was also pointing out that unlike one of the replies (I'm not a nose) that the accents around me are far brummie and in these times of strife are the ones who easily run and create division?
As to the smell, I would doubt you would know, many villa don't come into B'ham in any event, given the above.
I was born there, proud to be and would always support my club regardless ... I have many noses as friends and for years they have suffered ... Our fickle support is embarrassing and shows us up just like baldy ... It's gone viral
Maybe I might go down the noses if I have to endure the shit support that most of the so called villa fans are now offering ..
Embrace it ... E players are simply not good enough, the ownership is rotten to the core, racially abusing the players is not a strategy I endorse ... But as we all know most of the the villa support has those tendencies ...
As the saying goes ....
"If you can keep you head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you ....
If you can fill the unforgiving minute, with sixty seconds' worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it, and...
Which is more, YOU'LL BE A MAN MY SON ...
Get the gist lads.
You've all lost yours and flapping, just as usual ...
As I said embrace...
I'm a true brummy, I was born there, walk round the city, drink in the pubs and shops in the town... Doesn't make me a nose, makes me a BRUMMY..
To question villas support is a fair pint which is what it was, a point.
Look in the mirror x
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It takes me 10 mins to walk in Brum town centre from where I live, but of course, none of us live in Brum. Every single one of them comes out with the same old shite. I'll stick my previous comment that he's a sad twat.
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It's not even a good wind up merchant.
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I'd have more respect if he'd just come on as a Nose and took the piss. Pretending to be a Villa fan though, Jesus how pathetic. He's not even a kid.
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Practically every Villa fan I know is a Brummie. Funny that because the few Noses I work with are all from Solihull.
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That back garden has a tinge of Solihull about it, too.
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Even Troy tries to blend in for a bit every time he joins.
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Know now (just for the intelligent one) !!
I take exception to that.
I was merely pointing out the following;
Shouldn't fans stick together ?
Is it right to use racist language and vile swear words in front of women and children banging the coach windows at ranting at every player?
Will is help?
I was also pointing out that unlike one of the replies (I'm not a nose) that the accents around me are far brummie and in these times of strife are the ones who easily run and create division?
As to the smell, I would doubt you would know, many villa don't come into B'ham in any event, given the above.
I was born there, proud to be and would always support my club regardless ... I have many noses as friends and for years they have suffered ... Our fickle support is embarrassing and shows us up just like baldy ... It's gone viral
Maybe I might go down the noses if I have to endure the shit support that most of the so called villa fans are now offering ..
Embrace it ... E players are simply not good enough, the ownership is rotten to the core, racially abusing the players is not a strategy I endorse ... But as we all know most of the the villa support has those tendencies ...
As the saying goes ....
"If you can keep you head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you ....
If you can fill the unforgiving minute, with sixty seconds' worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it, and...
Which is more, YOU'LL BE A MAN MY SON ...
Get the gist lads.
You've all lost yours and flapping, just as usual ...
As I said embrace...
I'm a true brummy, I was born there, walk round the city, drink in the pubs and shops in the town... Doesn't make me a nose, makes me a BRUMMY..
To question villas support is a fair pint which is what it was, a point.
Look in the mirror x
Most likely to say:
“Let’s have 5 minutes” or “fit in body, fit in mind” Shit on da Villa
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Me thinks he doth protest too much...
He's a nose or a bitter, too many snide digs in there to be otherwise.
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Even if I wanted to make the biggest piss take, I couldn't make out that I supported another club.
Doing that would make my skin crawl.
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Most Villa fans I know are from Birmingham, because I'm from Birmingham. I love the city I was born in, and can't stand the blues
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Know now (just for the intelligent one) !!
I take exception to that.
I was merely pointing out the following;
Shouldn't fans stick together ?
Is it right to use racist language and vile swear words in front of women and children banging the coach windows at ranting at every player?
Will is help?
I was also pointing out that unlike one of the replies (I'm not a nose) that the accents around me are far brummie and in these times of strife are the ones who easily run and create division?
As to the smell, I would doubt you would know, many villa don't come into B'ham in any event, given the above.
I was born there, proud to be and would always support my club regardless ... I have many noses as friends and for years they have suffered ... Our fickle support is embarrassing and shows us up just like baldy ... It's gone viral
Maybe I might go down the noses if I have to endure the shit support that most of the so called villa fans are now offering ..
Embrace it ... E players are simply not good enough, the ownership is rotten to the core, racially abusing the players is not a strategy I endorse ... But as we all know most of the the villa support has those tendencies ...
As the saying goes ....
"If you can keep you head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you ....
If you can fill the unforgiving minute, with sixty seconds' worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it, and...
Which is more, YOU'LL BE A MAN MY SON ...
Get the gist lads.
You've all lost yours and flapping, just as usual ...
As I said embrace...
I'm a true brummy, I was born there, walk round the city, drink in the pubs and shops in the town... Doesn't make me a nose, makes me a BRUMMY..
To question villas support is a fair pint which is what it was, a point.
Look in the mirror x
just take your medication and have a chat with your mates in the legends lounge whilst gazing wistfully at a picture of geoff horsefield
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A minute in, it's more of a forearm but I can still why it's given.
https://vid.me/Jk6x
Thanks for that link Pete. I saw it as Westwood catching the player's head with his clenched hand, so I blame him for his complete stupidity. I'd be calling for a pen if it was the other way round.
It's not a penalty, but it's his own silly fault for it being given by taking off when there was no need to rather than just standing there.
We should agree to disagree then Dave - what with it being a game of opinions & all that. ;)
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Most Villa fans I know are from Birmingham, because I'm from Birmingham. I love the city I was born in, and can't stand the blues
My Dad is from Small Heath and even he is Villa.
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Thats never a penalty but what the fuck is he doing?
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Thats never a penalty but what the fuck is he doing?
Never in a million years. Apart from anything else I wasn't even convinced it was in the area.
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Know now (just for the intelligent one) !!
I take exception to that.
I was merely pointing out the following;
Shouldn't fans stick together ?
Is it right to use racist language and vile swear words in front of women and children banging the coach windows at ranting at every player?
Will is help?
I was also pointing out that unlike one of the replies (I'm not a nose) that the accents around me are far brummie and in these times of strife are the ones who easily run and create division?
As to the smell, I would doubt you would know, many villa don't come into B'ham in any event, given the above.
I was born there, proud to be and would always support my club regardless ... I have many noses as friends and for years they have suffered ... Our fickle support is embarrassing and shows us up just like baldy ... It's gone viral
Maybe I might go down the noses if I have to endure the shit support that most of the so called villa fans are now offering ..
Embrace it ... E players are simply not good enough, the ownership is rotten to the core, racially abusing the players is not a strategy I endorse ... But as we all know most of the the villa support has those tendencies ...
As the saying goes ....
"If you can keep you head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you ....
If you can fill the unforgiving minute, with sixty seconds' worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it, and...
Which is more, YOU'LL BE A MAN MY SON ...
Get the gist lads.
You've all lost yours and flapping, just as usual ...
As I said embrace...
I'm a true brummy, I was born there, walk round the city, drink in the pubs and shops in the town... Doesn't make me a nose, makes me a BRUMMY..
To question villas support is a fair pint which is what it was, a point.
Look in the mirror x
just take your medication and have a chat with your mates in the legends lounge whilst gazing wistfully at a picture of geoff horsefield
That's next to the Paul Tait one I think.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Hi Gavin!
My Perfect day:
27th February 2011 Birmingham City 2 Arsenal 1, enough said!
Pretty in pink Gavin, twit-twoo!
Who the fuck is Gavin?
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Whether it was a penalty or not, by making such a stupid challenge when there was no need to, he made the ref have to make a decision.
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That's a face for radio
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Hi Gavin!
My Perfect day:
27th February 2011 Birmingham City 2 Arsenal 1, enough said!
I know it can be hard being a Blues fan Gavin, but why the long face?
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Garde has to make getting rid of the rubbish a priority that's just not the ones that are not good enough it's also those who are splitting the change room. If ever I've seen a side where some players are not supporting the manager it's this one, there is no spirit and no fight, we are not a good side but we should be doing a lot better than we are. Those that are calling for Garde to go need a reality check, he has at best five players that deserve to be playing in the premiership all the rest is like changing the deck chairs on the Titanic they are all rubbish, and no matter what formation he tries the outcome won't be any different. This guy has been in charge for two months the club has been in decline for five years give him a break.
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Know now (just for the intelligent one) !!
I take exception to that.
I was merely pointing out the following;
Shouldn't fans stick together ?
Is it right to use racist language and vile swear words in front of women and children banging the coach windows at ranting at every player?
Will is help?
I was also pointing out that unlike one of the replies (I'm not a nose) that the accents around me are far brummie and in these times of strife are the ones who easily run and create division?
As to the smell, I would doubt you would know, many villa don't come into B'ham in any event, given the above.
I was born there, proud to be and would always support my club regardless ... I have many noses as friends and for years they have suffered ... Our fickle support is embarrassing and shows us up just like baldy ... It's gone viral
Maybe I might go down the noses if I have to endure the shit support that most of the so called villa fans are now offering ..
Embrace it ... E players are simply not good enough, the ownership is rotten to the core, racially abusing the players is not a strategy I endorse ... But as we all know most of the the villa support has those tendencies ...
As the saying goes ....
"If you can keep you head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you ....
If you can fill the unforgiving minute, with sixty seconds' worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it, and...
Which is more, YOU'LL BE A MAN MY SON ...
Get the gist lads.
You've all lost yours and flapping, just as usual ...
As I said embrace...
I'm a true brummy, I was born there, walk round the city, drink in the pubs and shops in the town... Doesn't make me a nose, makes me a BRUMMY..
To question villas support is a fair pint which is what it was, a point.
Look in the mirror x
just take your medication and have a chat with your mates in the legends lounge whilst gazing wistfully at a picture of geoff horsefield
That's next to the Paul Tait one I think.
they even have dugarry in there who played about 30 games
i dread to think what is in the jaspar carrot suite
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It always baffles me, everyone in Birmingham is a nose but they got 13,000 today. What are the other hundreds of thousands doing? The Bull Ring must have been rammed. Even the Albion got 24,000 today which is a good crowd for them.
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Despite the level of abuse some players got today, I've yet to see any evidence of racism.
Be a bit more like you? What, not turn up at all or just pretend to be a blue seat?
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Has Gavin gone?
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i dread to think what is in the jaspar carrot suite
There's a massive tribute to what is statistically their most successful ever side. Step forward the 1956 side that finished 6th and lost the FA Cup final.
To put it into context, that's what we did in 2000. Imagine that side as the greatest in our history, and John Gregory is our best ever manager.
I can't think of anything that demonstrates the gulf between us as well as that does.
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i dread to think what is in the jaspar carrot suite
There's a massive tribute to what is statistically their most successful ever side. Step forward the 1956 side that finished 6th and lost the FA Cup final.
To put it into context, that's what we did in 2000. Imagine that side as the greatest in our history, and John Gregory is our best ever manager.
I can't think of anything that demonstrates the gulf between us as well as that does.
dont forget the atari 6 a side
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i dread to think what is in the jaspar carrot suite
There's a massive tribute to what is statistically their most successful ever side. Step forward the 1956 side that finished 6th and lost the FA Cup final.
To put it into context, that's what we did in 2000. Imagine that side as the greatest in our history, and John Gregory is our best ever manager.
I can't think of anything that demonstrates the gulf between us as well as that does.
dont forget the atari 6 a side
I'm pretty sure we were doing something else that night!
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Know now (just for the intelligent one) !!
I take exception to that.
I was merely pointing out the following;
Shouldn't fans stick together ?
Is it right to use racist language and vile swear words in front of women and children banging the coach windows at ranting at every player?
Will is help?
I was also pointing out that unlike one of the replies (I'm not a nose) that the accents around me are far brummie and in these times of strife are the ones who easily run and create division?
As to the smell, I would doubt you would know, many villa don't come into B'ham in any event, given the above.
I was born there, proud to be and would always support my club regardless ... I have many noses as friends and for years they have suffered ... Our fickle support is embarrassing and shows us up just like baldy ... It's gone viral
Maybe I might go down the noses if I have to endure the shit support that most of the so called villa fans are now offering ..
Embrace it ... E players are simply not good enough, the ownership is rotten to the core, racially abusing the players is not a strategy I endorse ... But as we all know most of the the villa support has those tendencies ...
As the saying goes ....
"If you can keep you head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you ....
If you can fill the unforgiving minute, with sixty seconds' worth of distance run, yours is the earth and everything that's in it, and...
Which is more, YOU'LL BE A MAN MY SON ...
Get the gist lads.
You've all lost yours and flapping, just as usual ...
As I said embrace...
I'm a true brummy, I was born there, walk round the city, drink in the pubs and shops in the town... Doesn't make me a nose, makes me a BRUMMY..
To question villas support is a fair pint which is what it was, a point.
Look in the mirror x
just take your medication and have a chat with your mates in the legends lounge whilst gazing wistfully at a picture of geoff horsefield
That's next to the Paul Tait one I think.
they even have dugarry in there who played about 30 games
i dread to think what is in the jaspar carrot suite
Probably a rusty old moped & umpteen thousand unsold Videos of a chronically unfunny 'Brummie'.
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If we do get relegated I'm looking forward to one thing. Reminding people just who we are. Especially the basket case that is bcfc.
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i dread to think what is in the jaspar carrot suite
There's a massive tribute to what is statistically their most successful ever side. Step forward the 1956 side that finished 6th and lost the FA Cup final.
To put it into context, that's what we did in 2000. Imagine that side as the greatest in our history, and John Gregory is our best ever manager.
I can't think of anything that demonstrates the gulf between us as well as that does.
dont forget the atari 6 a side
I'm pretty sure we were doing something else that night!
oh yes
no matter how bad things get at least we arent them
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No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
Except they fielded a bunch of kids and we went all out.
No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
Difference was Liverpool played mostly kids/reserves (apart from Benteke of course). The worry is that was near enough our 'best' 11
Liverpool still had some big hitters on the pitch. Let's face we know what we are at the moment and it's not the first time a first division club has come up short against lower league opposition in the FA cup. We could have been in the top six and still ended up with today's result. We are viewing this result in current climate and not as it's FA cup tie it happens and the minnows played well and deserve their day at VP.
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Deserve their day at VP? They'll probably win at VP.
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Has Gavin gone?
He's not been banned.
So he's welcome back to chat about (either of) his favourite "soccer teams" anytime he wants.
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I didn't understand much of his second post, I hope he's working on his grammar.
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MON making some very good points much better than other muppets on BT.
What is he saying Olaftab?
Where as others were using the usual cliches and sound bites about our performance MON scoped it in the context of current situation and said that it was a very tricky difficult situation and Villa have done well in a game that could have been lost as often happens.
I also Gareth Ainsworth was excellent in his after match interview.
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Deserve their day at VP? They'll probably win at VP.
Do you want to put some money on that?
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It's a new record to go for as I can't remember the last time we lost at home to a 4th division side.
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After watching the results in the afternoon, I do have an element of 'well, we're still in the cup' relief, but I'm frustrated as even though logic is telling me we're down and we're fucked, I love this club so much and still hope we can spin this round. If we could have got the monkey off our back by winning today, it may have been something to build on. We have to start somewhere if that slimmest chance of getting out of it us to happen.
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No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
Except they fielded a bunch of kids and we went all out.
No need for misery we are still in the cup. It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.
Difference was Liverpool played mostly kids/reserves (apart from Benteke of course). The worry is that was near enough our 'best' 11
Liverpool still had some big hitters on the pitch. Let's face we know what we are at the moment and it's not the first time a first division club has come up short against lower league opposition in the FA cup. We could have been in the top six and still ended up with today's result. We are viewing this result in current climate and not as it's FA cup tie it happens and the minnows played well and deserve their day at VP.
I accept your point, but as I put in an earlier post, I just think today clearly exposed why we are in the position we find ourselves in. Most of the season we have been beaten by better sides than us, so it has been difficult to gauge just how poor we are. I think today gave us that answer. We are dreadfully short of quality, particularly in midfield and up front. Shocks in one off FA Cup games do happen, but you normally get the impression that those games are a complete one off and the team from the higher division would win 9 times out of ten. I can't say that was the case with us today.
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I didn't understand much of his second post, I hope he's working on his grammar.
All the shit and negatively we've endured this season, and you can still dredge up these levels of optimism!
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I didn't understand much of his second post, I hope he's working on his grammar.
Know now, you've made your pint.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Cor blimey, what a load of shit. You have to be a Brummie to support Villa? Fucking good job that rule doesn't apply in Manchester, the red devils would have very few fans indeed.
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Bunn - 5 - Had little to do but thought he could have been better for their corners.
Richards - 5- And that's with a point added for the goal. Showed little adventure and was generally poor on the ball. At least we know he's not a right back either. Nice finish though. Also, for a big unit he is surprisingly poor in shielding the ball or throwing his weight around.
Richardson - 6 - Did little wrong to be fair. One great block in the first half.
Okore - 5 - Poor on the ball. Won little in the air.
Clark - 5 - Another who was poor on the ball.
Bacuna - 5 - Tried but was largely poor on the ball. Shockingly bad corner.
Westwood - 7 - I saw a different game to others but I thought he tried to keep things ticking over. He lost the ball a few times but also tried to get us moving. I thought he was the best of a poor midfield.
Gana - 5 - Gave it away time and time again and just when he'd make a break or find space he'd stop and go back. First half he was just dreadful.
Gil - 5 - "You don't know what you're doing"? Sang the crowd. I felt like singing it to the crowd. Anonymous and poor when he did have the ball.
Sinclair - 6 - Unlucky to be hooked I thought as he tried to offer movement and width but was rarely found. Did only okay when he did receive it though.
Gestede - 4 - He really is out of his depth and his face shows that he knows it.
Subs:
veretout/Ayew - 6 - Showed quality when they came on.
Lyden - Welcome to the shit.
If the truth be told we just looked lacking in confidence. We are/were there for the taking but apart from a contentious penalty (I was there so haven't seen a replay to confirm whether it should have been given or not) Wycombe offered nothing but corners. We looked uncomfortable on the ball and offered little movement. We gave the ball away an awful amount of times but still Wycombe never really threatened to beat us. It's easy to forget that in 83 ( I think it was) we went to 4th division Northampton and only won 1-0 with a much better team. So, as poor as we were we never come close to losing.
So, we were our own worst enemies. Again. That's where we build from. We shoot ourselves in the foot - see Sunderland - rather than be dominated. I do think we have come on under Garde - under Sherwood we had no shape or direction. Under Garde we just have players unable to do the basics. We are simply poor and lack leadership, pace, athleticism, and that little spark that Ayew shows in fits and starts.
We've got 3 home games on the bounce and the mood is turning ugly. Not sure who would want to come in right now or even whether it's even worth it. But I'll stick with Garde and hope he sticks with us. I think.
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I've seen footage of one player seeming to tell fans to fuck off. And footage of another player apparently giving fans the v sign. Rumours of a split dressing room and that the manager can't manage. A hierarchy that seems to consist of over-promoted barrow boys and number crunchers. A board member that seizes every chance to make both himself and the club look clueless in the media. And an owner who doesn't bother to turn up unless there's a chance to sit somewhere near royalty.
Still there are positives. We now know that we can give fourth division sides a run for their money.
Totally agree with you Ron.
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Win the Cup and relegated? It's happened before ;-)
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Win the Cup and relegated? It's happened before ;-)
Well I'll take that this season.
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I really couldn't give a shit where I come from or anyone else but I'll tell you what I followed the villa since the relegation days into the third division I'm now 54 and I'll be villa till I die so don't fucking question my roots but perhaps that kind of view just sums the day up
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Has Gavin gone?
He's not been banned.
So he's welcome back to chat about (either of) his favourite "soccer teams" anytime he wants.
I knew you wouldn't ban him, he's just gone a bit quiet all of a sudden.
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Has Gavin gone?
He's not been banned.
So he's welcome back to chat about (either of) his favourite "soccer teams" anytime he wants.
I knew you wouldn't ban him, he's just gone a bit quiet all of a sudden.
He's probably ironing his 'Enckleman' goalie top.
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Win the Cup and relegated? It's happened before ;-)
Well I'll take that this season.
I would've taken that last season. There is no point being in the premier league, when you have an owner who doesn't give a shit. Winning the Fa Cup would be an incredible achievement, when finishing 17th in the Premier league isn't. Unfortunately, we don't have a chance of winning the Fa Cup this season, our team is utter crap. Only 2 players who started today, started on the 30th May.
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I'll admit, I didn't see the first half, and was having a pub lunch with the Mrs for the second, in a place which had the telly on showing the match, the sound down, and the hugely distracting (though entertaining) subtitles on, and it was positioned over her shoulder and even I am not rude enough to just keep watching the football while she sits there in front of me .... but even so, I didn't really think it was that bad.
I can think of quite a few matches which have made me angrier this season.
It's a sad time when we evaluate matches like that, admittedly, but even so, I don't really think a draw is the end of the world, and I didn't see enough to make me any more depressed about the Villa than I already am.
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Win the Cup and relegated? It's happened before ;-)
Well I'll take that this season.
I would've taken that last season. There is no point being in the premier league, when you have an owner who doesn't give a shit. Winning the Fa Cup would be an incredible achievement, when finishing 17th in the Premier league isn't. Unfortunately, we don't have a chance of winning the Fa Cup this season, our team is utter crap. Only 2 players who started today, started on the 30th May.
And look how fucking shit we were on 30th May.
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Has Gavin gone?
He's not been banned.
So he's welcome back to chat about (either of) his favourite "soccer teams" anytime he wants.
I knew you wouldn't ban him, he's just gone a bit quiet all of a sudden.
He's probably slipped in a puddle of his own drool and cracked his head on his Paul Tait statue, the twat.
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I really couldn't give a shit where I come from or anyone else but I'll tell you what I followed the villa since the relegation days into the third division I'm now 54 and I'll be villa till I die so don't fucking question my roots but perhaps that kind of view just sums the day up
Who is questioning where you come from? Nobody.
Gavin on the other page is a clear wind up merchant.
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We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.
I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.
Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...
We should take a leaf out of their book.
I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...
Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.
I'm ashamed to be villa.
Half eight on a Saturday night and this shitbag is posting on a Villa website.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
The players are way out of their depth but they don't deserve that pathetic abuse though.
I didn't say they did, I said it's not sinister Ie something evil or harmful will happen. The only thing evil that will happen is the same fans will probably be watching us lose to Palace on a cold, wet, Tuesday night.
I didn't mean it like that. I'm all for protest, but Christ just abusing the players like that is embarrassing and to be honest I don't think they deserve it.
You're right, and it shows why despite you driving me mad with your opinions on some topics you're a sound bloke.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
The players are way out of their depth but they don't deserve that pathetic abuse though.
I didn't say they did, I said it's not sinister Ie something evil or harmful will happen. The only thing evil that will happen is the same fans will probably be watching us lose to Palace on a cold, wet, Tuesday night.
I didn't mean it like that. I'm all for protest, but Christ just abusing the players like that is embarrassing and to be honest I don't think they deserve it.
You're right, and it shows why despite you driving me mad with your opinions on some topics you're a sound bloke.
He's alright.
I reckon he'll be one of the soundest posters here next season when we're tearing it up in the championship.
I was thinking about that earlier. Imagine what it'd be like if we started regularly winning games again? In fact, *expecting* to win them?
My Hull supporting brother in law was distraught when they went down but is now cockahoop at the feeling of winning lots of games.
This place is going to be a beacon of fraternity when we start doing that.
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Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09
That's actually quite sinister.
Sinister? Someone being called a wanker and a prick?
The players are way out of their depth but they don't deserve that pathetic abuse though.
I didn't say they did, I said it's not sinister Ie something evil or harmful will happen. The only thing evil that will happen is the same fans will probably be watching us lose to Palace on a cold, wet, Tuesday night.
I didn't mean it like that. I'm all for protest, but Christ just abusing the players like that is embarrassing and to be honest I don't think they deserve it.
You're right, and it shows why despite you driving me mad with your opinions on some topics you're a sound bloke.
He's alright.
I reckon he'll be one of the soundest posters here next season when we're tearing it up in the championship.
I was thinking about that earlier. Imagine what it'd be like if we started regularly winning games again? In fact, *expecting* to win them?
My Hull supporting brother in law was distraught when they went down but is now cockahoop at the feeling of winning lots of games.
This place is going to be a beacon of fraternity when we start doing that.
For me, if there's one thing that marks out saunders_heroes from the misanthropes it's when we have had brief glimpses of form in recent years, he's whooped it up and been happy to be proved wrong.
He's only seemed like a miserable git because we've been totally shite, which is totally understandable.
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What made me angrier than anything today was our fans singing that poxy "everywhere we go" song.
Just because the team are dropping down a division we don't need the fans to start going small-time too.
We're the Villa for f**ck's sake!
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What I don't like about the song is the Villa 'boys' bit. What are the women supposed to sing?
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What made me angrier than anything today was our fans singing that poxy "everywhere we go" song.
Just because the team are dropping down a division we don't need the fans to start going small-time too.
We're the Villa for f**ck's sake!
We've been singing that since we got pumped at Everton and it got going for about 10 minutes straight. It's a song that can go on and on whereas our songs are usually over after 5 seconds. I agree it isn't the best but a poxy song is the least of our worries.
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"X is a shithole, I wanna go home" is the song that bugs me.
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What I don't like about the song is the Villa 'boys' bit. What are the women supposed to sing?
We refuse to sing it - on the basis it's not 'inclusive'. Oh, and because it makes us all look small-time. ;)
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"X is a shithole, I wanna go home" is the song that bugs me.
|It'll work a treat at MK Dongs next season, mind. And Rotherham...
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I liked the 'empty seats my lord' bit when there clearly weren't any. At least we didn't roll out the European Cup song. That should only be saved for Arsenal. And maybe Man City.
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So it's okay to give them shit on a thread but not to their face? These donkeys have been taking the living piss for far too long now and people who spend a lot of money are pissed off. Maybe start earning your massive wages and try a lot harder for your club and the fans and they'll ease up, it never happens though does it. I think we look overall worse every week.
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If they're not good enough then it doesn't matter how hard they try as they still won't be good enough. then they will be trying too hard and making more and more basic mistakes. It's rather pithy to just believe that telling players to try harder and screaming in their faces will help them or us.
Of course we look worse every week. The players are playing with fear, which makes them play worse, which turns the fans against them, which causes them to be inhibited and play with fear and so the cycle continues. the playing staff have to buckle down and pull themselves through it. Yes, some criticism is fully deserved, but to the point of apoplectic rage? Hardly.
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If they're not good enough then it doesn't matter how hard they try as they still won't be good enough. then they will be trying too hard and making more and more basic mistakes. It's rather pithy to just believe that telling players to try harder and screaming in their faces will help them or us.
Of course we look worse every week. The players are playing with fear, which makes them play worse, which turns the fans against them, which causes them to be inhibited and play with fear and so the cycle continues. the playing staff have to buckle down and pull themselves through it. Yes, some criticism is fully deserved, but to the point of apoplectic rage? Hardly.
Yep, the single biggest problem we have is the total lack of confidence and belief the players must have. A really spawny win may make the difference, not to us staying up as that is unlikely, but to at least see a few more wins and have something to build on next season.
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What we need is a list of songs acceptable to all fans home and away - sorted by length, originality and appropriate content?
We could have a poll
And then maybe everyone not in the Holte End (with an honourable mention to the right-side of the Witton) will endeavour to join in occasionally...
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I really couldn't give a shit where I come from or anyone else but I'll tell you what I followed the villa since the relegation days into the third division I'm now 54 and I'll be villa till I die so don't fucking question my roots but perhaps that kind of view just sums the day up
It don't matter where your from so long as the claret & blue of AVFC runs through your veins.
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On the subject of songs we don't like I hate the "Birmingham are you listening"
song as it plays straight into the hands of them at St Andrex. They claim were not a proper Birmingham club and that song makes us sound that way. The words should be changed to "Small Heath are you listening"
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On the subject of 'empty seats', Wycombe seemed to have sold too may yesterday. We wasn't allowed into the block we were supposed to be sitting so we ended up standing at the front by the disabled section. I could have taken a corner given how close to the pitch we were (i'd have probably taken a better one as well).
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It wasn't that it was that it was unreserved seating. So later arrivals into the ground found their seats taken by those getting in earlier. Crazy decision when its a a big following as no-one will take seats in the far corners at the back. There were seats but who was going to seek them out?
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It wasn't that it was that it was unreserved seating. So later arrivals into the ground found their seats taken by those getting in earlier. Crazy decision when its a a big following as no-one will take seats in the far corners at the back. There were seats but who was going to seek them out?
I didn't realise it was unreserved seating. It wasn't a problem though really.
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No, not when everyone stands anyway. Would have been different if it pissed it down for the entire game, mind.
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I liked the 'empty seats my lord' bit when there clearly weren't any. At least we didn't roll out the European Cup song. That should only be saved for Arsenal. And maybe Man City.
I hope they both win the thing soon, so I don't have to hear it any more.
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This place is going to be a beacon of fraternity when we start doing that.
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"X is a shithole, I wanna go home" is the song that bugs me.
Me as well......normally, but I'll make an exception for the Wycombe ground. Horrible ground in a terrible location.
I can see why Wasps moved to Cov
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"X is a shithole, I wanna go home" is the song that bugs me.
Me as well......normally, but I'll make an exception for the Wycombe ground. Horrible ground in a terrible location.
I can see why Wasps moved to Cov
True, but it warms my ol' cockles when I see all the Red Kites flocking around that tree on the horizon.
#desperatelyseekingpositives
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How about we sing "always look on the bright side of life", "we'll meet again" and "don't worry about a thing, cause every little thing..." rather than dirge like "We're fucking shit".
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I was down the side yesterday with my son and said with 5mins to go god only knows will happen if they get a late winner. Having access to the players as they came off the pitch could have made for a very serious incident. My son did get a selfie with Jordan Ayew at half time, which was probably the highlight of the day!
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You do wonder if the noses that come on here and everywhere else on the internet actually look at their attendances before going on about how loyal they are. They must have the most pitiful support of any big city team in Western Europe.
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I think it is worth mentioning that Wycombe played very well. It isn't that long ago that a tie like this would have meant an opposition with plenty of heart but very limited in their approach to the game who would struggle to match the fitness in the last 15 minutes. This was a well organised, well coached side who wanted to play the right way and kept going to the end. Seeing the Oxford result has only reinforced the thought that teams playing football the right way are now succeeding throughout the divisions. Not much comfort for us, clearly, but good for football in general.
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The Lescott and Guzan "chewing gum game" is doing the rounds on Twitter now, and they're getting pelted for it by our fans.
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just watched back the MOTD highlights, main one was Gabby Yorath, what an outstanding looking woman. Stunning
Sinclair called out Westwood correctly as bottling the tackle for the penalty, horrendous and gutless act from him. Savage had a go at him likewise live for bottling one of the first challenges of the game.
thought we finished relatively strongly when Ayew and Veretout came on
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The set piece delivery from the left back, the one who score the penalty, was excellent. Our players should stay behind and practice until they can take corners like a fourth division defender.
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We learnt (or already knew tbh) Richardson, Westwood, Bacuna, Gestede and Sinclair are nowhere near good enough. That's half the team.
I said before the game leaving Ayew out would prove a mistake, 2 out of our 3 attackers were completely anonymous. 2 of our CMs can't control a ball, pick a pass and dominate a game against anyone. Richardson just constantly gives the ball away and offers nothing going forward or back.
Bunn seemed OK, I'd keep him in goal over Guzan.
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I can't think of anything else to say about us that's not already been said apart from we are a team going one way and it's not up.