Wycombe Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[QuintonVilla]

Deserve their day at VP? They'll probably win at VP.

[Dave]

Has Gavin gone?

He's not been banned.

So he's welcome back to chat about (either of) his favourite "soccer teams" anytime he wants.

[Chris Jameson]

I didn't understand much of his second post, I hope he's working on his grammar.

[olaftab]

MON making some very good points much better than other muppets on BT.

What is he saying Olaftab?

Where as others were using the usual cliches and sound bites about our performance MON scoped it in the context of current situation and said that it was a very tricky difficult situation and Villa have done well in a game that could have been lost as often happens.
I also Gareth Ainsworth was excellent in his after match interview.

[olaftab]

Deserve their day at VP? They'll probably win at VP.

Do you want to put some money on that?

[PeterWithesShin]

It's a new record to go for as I can't remember the last time we lost at home to a 4th division side.

[glasses]

After watching the results in the afternoon, I do have an element of 'well, we're still in the cup' relief, but I'm frustrated as even though logic is telling me we're down and we're fucked, I love this club so much and still hope we can spin this round. If we could have got the monkey off our back by winning today, it may have been something to build on. We have to start somewhere if that slimmest chance of getting out of it us to happen.

[tomd2103]

No need for misery we are still in the cup.  It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.

Except they fielded a bunch of kids and we went all out.

No need for misery we are still in the cup.  It's not easy to go to lower league grounds as Liverpool found out last night. We will win the replay.

Difference was Liverpool played mostly kids/reserves (apart from Benteke of course). The worry is that was near enough our 'best' 11

Liverpool still had some big hitters on the pitch. Let's face we know what we are at the moment and  it's not the first time a first division club has come up short against lower league opposition in the FA cup. We could have been in the top six and still ended up with today's result. We are viewing this result in current climate and not as it's FA cup tie it happens  and the minnows played well and deserve their day at VP.

I accept your point, but as I put in an earlier post, I just think today clearly exposed why we are in the position we find ourselves in.  Most of the season we have been beaten by better sides than us, so it has been difficult to gauge just how poor we are.  I think today gave us that answer.  We are dreadfully short of quality, particularly in midfield and up front.  Shocks in one off FA Cup games do happen, but you normally get the impression that those games are a complete one off and the team from the higher division would win 9 times out of ten.  I can't say that was the case with us today.

[Villa in Denmark]

I didn't understand much of his second post, I hope he's working on his grammar.

All the shit and negatively we've endured this season, and you can still dredge up these levels of optimism!

[Pete3206]

I didn't understand much of his second post, I hope he's working on his grammar.

Know now, you've made your pint.

[Steve67]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

Cor blimey, what a load of shit. You have to be a Brummie to support Villa? Fucking good job that rule doesn't apply in Manchester, the red devils would have very few fans indeed.

[peter w]

Bunn - 5 - Had little to do but thought he could have been better for their corners.

Richards - 5- And that's with a point added for the goal. Showed little adventure and was generally poor on the ball. At least we know he's not a  right back either. Nice finish though. Also, for a big unit he is surprisingly poor in shielding the ball or throwing his weight around.

Richardson - 6 - Did little wrong to be fair. One great block in the first half.

Okore - 5 - Poor on the ball. Won little in the air.

Clark - 5 - Another who was poor on the ball.

Bacuna - 5 - Tried but was largely poor on the ball. Shockingly bad corner.

Westwood - 7 - I saw a different game to others but I thought he tried to keep things ticking over. He lost the ball a few times but also tried to get us moving. I thought he was the best of a poor midfield.

Gana - 5 - Gave it away time and time again and just when he'd make a break or find space he'd stop and go back. First half he was just dreadful.

Gil - 5 - "You don't know what you're doing"? Sang the crowd. I felt like singing it to the crowd. Anonymous and poor when he did have the ball.

Sinclair - 6 - Unlucky to be hooked I thought as he tried to offer movement and width but was rarely found. Did only okay when he did receive it though.

Gestede - 4 - He really is out of his depth and his face shows that he knows it.

Subs:

veretout/Ayew - 6 - Showed quality when they came on.

Lyden - Welcome to the shit.

If the truth be told we just looked lacking in confidence. We are/were there for the taking but apart from a contentious penalty (I was there so haven't seen a replay to confirm whether it should have been given or not) Wycombe offered nothing but corners. We looked uncomfortable on the ball and offered little movement. We gave the ball away an awful amount of times but still Wycombe never really threatened to beat us. It's easy to forget that in 83 ( I think it was) we went to 4th division Northampton and only won 1-0 with a much better team. So, as poor as we were we never come close to losing.

So, we were our own worst enemies. Again. That's where we build from. We shoot ourselves in the foot - see Sunderland - rather than be dominated. I do think we have come on under Garde - under Sherwood we had no shape or direction. Under Garde we just have players unable to do the basics. We are simply poor and lack leadership, pace, athleticism, and that little spark that Ayew shows in fits and starts.

We've got 3 home games on the bounce and the mood is turning ugly. Not sure who would want to come in right now or even whether it's even worth it. But I'll stick with Garde and hope he sticks with us. I think.

[eddiemunster]

I've seen footage of one player seeming to tell fans to fuck off. And footage of another player apparently giving fans the v sign. Rumours of a split dressing room and that the manager can't manage. A hierarchy that seems to consist of over-promoted barrow boys and number crunchers. A board member that seizes every chance to make both himself and the club look clueless in the media. And an owner who doesn't bother to turn up unless there's a chance to sit somewhere near royalty.

Still there are positives. We now know that we can give fourth division sides a run for their money.

Totally agree with you Ron.

[Witton Warrior]

Win the Cup and relegated? It's happened before ;-)

[peter w]

Win the Cup and relegated? It's happened before ;-)

Well I'll take that this season.