Wycombe Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[ciggiesnbeer]

Right or wrong, those decisions only go one way when you are in freefall.

The bigger issue is we should not be concerned about a penalty when playing Wycome Wanderers FFS.

[paul_e]

Right or wrong, those decisions only go one way when you are in freefall.

The bigger issue is we should not be concerned about a penalty when playing Wycome Wanderers FFS.

When your confidence is fucked any game is tough, the 2 penalty decisions were probably enough to destroy the belief we had, especially when the players have been told by the press (and fans given the poll on here) for a week that the game had upset written all over it.  I agree it's the sort of decision that goes against you when you're struggling (and the Gestede one that hit the bar/post goes in against a team that's struggling or for a team full of confidence) what I'm upset by is the number of villa fans who are accepting it as the right decision, when Savage is saying we've been unlucky and our own fans are disagreeing then you have to worry.

From the vid it's interesting to note the reaction of their players, none of them appeal (the nearest guy looks at the ref and then looks a bit hocked when they get the decision) that's telling for me.  The arm (I thought it was his hand but I agree it's his forearm that makes contact) to the head is clumsy but nothing more and I still maintain that if there's no whistle that's not one you'd ever hear about again.

[tomd2103]

I can't believe so many people on here are so adamant that it was a definite penalty, if you watch it he didn't even look at the player until he'd jumped, if you give that you could honestly give 3-4 every game.  The only thing that differentiates it from 90% of aerial challenges from long balls is that they were facing each other. When you add the fact that we didn't get the penalty in the first half and it's clear that the ref had a big hand in turning the game around.  That's not excusing the performance or making excuses, it's just pointing out that we were on the wrong end of 2 poor penalty decisions which could completely changed the game.

Anywhere else on the pitch it's a foul, therefore correct decision.

That's the point, no it isn't, you see 1 player jump whilst the other stays on the floor a hell of a lot and it's very rarely given as a foul, even with light contact such as this case.  The problem is lots of fans don't like Westwood and this is another reason to slag him off so "he's an idiot and it's 100% a penalty".

It was a dodgy decision. It could just about be justified in super slow mo but it was incredibly soft. Having said which, we still should have won. Will we score more than one in a game with Remi in charge? Will it come before a win? Exciting times.

Exactly my point, you can, at a stretch, understand it being given but it's one that if it goes against your team is never a foul and one that if it's not given for you is forgotten before the final whistle.

A lot of the time you'll get away with that challenge, but I can see why it was given, mainly because of the elbow.

Elbow is a bit much, hand softly to the face as he tried to turn out of the challenge and ensure he landed on his feet is closer to the mark.

I think from one angle (possibly the one the ref saw it from) it did look like an elbow, which should have been a penalty and yellow card.  The others showed it wasn't an elbow and I still think it was a very soft decision.

[Five great ways]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

[saunders_heroes]

Nose alert...

[b23]

Gestede was dreadful, I can not understand why he stayed on.
This must be the worst squad of crap players we have assembled since the 60,s.
I still think Garde needs a chance, with the Gill substitution, He had moved down the right and passed the ball to Richards, he in turn passed it into space but Gil had stopped running and the ball went no where.
Garde was apoplectic on the bench and threw his water bottle into the dug out in temper. Obviously a training ground plan Gil had forgotten about. He was then substituted.

Richards should not have passed ? He could see that Gil hadn't moved forward ?

Garde was angry and understandably.

I'm glad Garde is starting to throw water bottles about.

Strange substitution to me. Gil was one of our better players.

[QuintonVilla]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

Nose alert?

[Clampy]

I didn't think we were too bad in the first half without doing very much. Controlled it and looked fairly comfortable. The second half was dreadful though. We just didn't seem to know how to cope with their goal. Garde's right, we're too bloody fragile.

I've only seen the penalty back again once and it looked harsh but maybe I need to see it again.

[saunders_heroes]

We were miles better than them, we just went to pieces in the final third as usual. Get the second goal and we'd have won but we simply can't put games to bed.

[adrenachrome]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

Nose alert?

At least the Heathen didn't start a new thread. Be thankful for that.

[LTA]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

Have spoken to one of my mates who went down today and he was disgusted at some of our fans.  Reckoned some were throwing things at Remi as he walked down the tunnel and that he looked genuinely scared by the fans reaction.

I don't think he realised how poisonous the club is when he took the job and he must be really fed up of the place already.

[tomd2103]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

1/10 and not fooling anyone.  In case you are wondering, the 1 is for using "their" instead of "there", an achievement way beyond the capabilities of the majority of your knuckledragging support.

[itbrvilla]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

Dear Nose,
I can smell you a mile off.

Love Villan from Birmingham

[clash city rocker]

Well said quinton villa

[oswald funkletrumpet]

We should be ashamed, we as fans are shocking, the vile rant at our own players from that bald idiot, that's not support, it's pathetic and embarrassing.

I know we are rubbish, probably the worst villa team in history, we are now officially a laughing stock and the worst team in the midlands.

Dare I say it, our neighbours up the road support their team through thick and thin and they have gone through years of issues ...

We should take a leaf out of their book.

I question how many real brummies we actually have as supporters, many I sense are hangers on from the past and not from our beloved city...

Perhaps we should go down the road with proper supporters.

I'm ashamed to be villa.

jesus wept cant you just post on your own board with its 15 members