Wycombe Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[CT]

Lowest point ever as a Villa fan seeing that tweet, I am 61 and seen some bad times but this infighting and vitriol is the ugliest period in our history.
Only one person is responsible for where we are at as it's his sole ownership and bad decisions which have got us to this terrible state. Very sad.

Was thinking similar my friend.

Listening to Garde saying the team weren't doing what he asked.

The abject "efforts" of Gestede, Bacuna, Westwood etc

Various videos popping up regarding fan unrest.

We keep thinking we've hit the bottom (I hoped it was the Cup Final) but clearly we have a long way to go.

[Jon Crofts]

Fox needs to pack his bags, terrible appointment well above his ability and know how.

hey hes doing well with shirts ..

Worse than Faulkner.  Thats a special kind of shit.

[LTA]

Lowest point ever as a Villa fan seeing that tweet, I am 61 and seen some bad times but this infighting and vitriol is the ugliest period in our history.
Only one person is responsible for where we are at as it's his sole ownership and bad decisions which have got us to this terrible state. Very sad.

Was thinking similar my friend.

Listening to Garde saying the team weren't doing what he asked.

The abject "efforts" of Gestede, Bacuna, Westwood etc

Various videos popping up regarding fan unrest.

We keep thinking we've hit the bottom (I hoped it was the Cup Final) but clearly we have a long way to go.

I remember when Wolves went down to League One and their fans ran on and trashed parts of Molineux.  That's not a scene in want played out at Villa Park.

[Duncan Shaw]

On the flip side, we have also shown dignity today which shouldn't get lost in the negativity.....
Gareth Ainswort on the Beeb

The Villa fans were more generous to the Wanderers players, who they applauded from the field.
"It's great and just fantastic for the Villa fans to clap us off, because they are in a bit of disarray at the moment," said Wycombe boss Gareth Ainsworth.
"So for them to have the respect to do that for my boys, I'd just say thank you.

[wittonwarrior]

Other teams such as Leicester/Everton/Southampton manage on relatively small budgets - the size of the wad should not be made an excuse for where we are today. 

It is the way in which the lack of funds are managed. 

Quite clearly there are non football men who have moved into Villa Park and have no idea whatsoever.

Alex Ferguson/Bill Shankly and Bertie Mee would not get us out of this rut.

[oldtimernow]

I would much prefer Micah Richards to walk the walk not talking the social media talk.

First time here for a long time as I couldn't pluck up enough courage to come and read all that I knew would be said, most of it spot on.
I agree with Brian and I viewed Richards playing his own game, nothing to do with the team, making a point that he didn't want to be playing in the position he was in today.He scored a goal and then looked as if he wanted to be off the pitch as soon as possible.
The interchange with Gil in my mind was to put Gil in poor light too.

The interchange with the fans was PR ( for his benefit too)

[steamer]

Gestede was dreadful, I can not understand why he stayed on.
This must be the worst squad of crap players we have assembled since the 60,s.
I still think Garde needs a chance, with the Gill substitution, He had moved down the right and passed the ball to Richards, he in turn passed it into space but Gil had stopped running and the ball went no where.
Garde was apoplectic on the bench and threw his water bottle into the dug out in temper. Obviously a training ground plan Gil had forgotten about. He was then substituted.

[walsall villain]

Positives - we didn't get beat, Bunn did okay, the defence didn't fuck up for once and Richards scored and probably should have won us a penalty - had we got that and gone 2 up I am sure we would have gone on to win

Negatives - just about everything else really but special mention to Rudy Gestede - he is not and never will be a footballer, never mind a Championship footballer

Clearly struggling with us but 32 goals in the last 60 championship appearances suggests otherwise.

[UK Redsox]

Well done to Da Beeb for finding two and a half minutes highlights to put on their website out of that rubbish.

Definite penalty for me. Westwood took his eye of the ball and just jumped into the player

[JUAN PABLO]

Take a look at @oldmansaid's Tweet: https://twitter.com/oldmansaid/status/685864223004581889?s=09

That's actually quite sinister.
In no way does it help. Frustration fair enough but telling a player he's a prick doesn't make him think hang on I'll try a bit harder next week.

It's not going to help at all, but then nothing will, we are done for this season. No team spirit, no bond, no cohesion, no nothing It's just supporters now who are hitting their limit after following these jokes across the country for the past 5 years. It's been a long time coming, endless support and endless defeats. It was going to end somewhere.

I dont like abuse but the players have been abusing my soul for years and will be driving round in their ferraris later , and this wont bother them with c#### like nzogbia and Agbonlahor ..

Some probably don't care, but some probably do.  Some of them try and just plainly aren't good enough, so that kind of abuse can get to people.  Just because they earn big money doesn't make them immune to that.

well we will see Tom , next game? Im not going to lose sleep over a few people calling Bacuna a wanker.

Ive been called worse .

 

[JUAN PABLO]

Well done to Da Beeb for finding two and a half minutes highlights to put on their website out of that rubbish.

Definite penalty for me. Westwood took his eye of the ball and just jumped into the player

you cant be doing Jackie Chan on a football pitch . He has to use his brain. There was no real danger but the player is absolute useless.

[ronshirt]

I've seen footage of one player seeming to tell fans to fuck off. And footage of another player apparently giving fans the v sign. Rumours of a split dressing room and that the manager can't manage. A hierarchy that seems to consist of over-promoted barrow boys and number crunchers. A board member that seizes every chance to make both himself and the club look clueless in the media. And an owner who doesn't bother to turn up unless there's a chance to sit somewhere near royalty.

Still there are positives. We now know that we can give fourth division sides a run for their money.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

Bacuna is like Westwood in the fact they've played a staggering amount of games for Villa despite being absolutely appalling footballers. Before our decline they'd have been found out and shipped out after a handful of games but now they've been allowed to stay and fester in the team.

Not just allowed to stay and fester, but rewarded with new long term contracts. You truly couldn't make it up.

[Nev]

Although I think someone needs a thesaurus, and I concour with Sir Graham somewhat, something makes me believe that players being exposed to such ugliness may do some good.

When faced with such anger there are two choices: fight or flight.

The over riding thought is that  the odd one will fight but most will indeed laugh, look at their bank account and ruminate on which club they will play for next.

The f#@#@ b#@##@@ f#@$#@ c##@!

[Mortimer's Bear]

Gestede was dreadful, I can not understand why he stayed on.
This must be the worst squad of crap players we have assembled since the 60,s.
I still think Garde needs a chance, with the Gill substitution, He had moved down the right and passed the ball to Richards, he in turn passed it into space but Gil had stopped running and the ball went no where.
Garde was apoplectic on the bench and threw his water bottle into the dug out in temper. Obviously a training ground plan Gil had forgotten about. He was then substituted.

He was hardly apoplectic.