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Title: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
in the end a very good win indeed. Not an easy place to go first game vs a promoted team. All hail Rudy
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LeeB on August 08, 2015, 04:54:26 PM
Ha ha yes, fuck you BBC.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: darren woolley on August 08, 2015, 04:55:08 PM
Well done lads a good start.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Stu on August 08, 2015, 04:55:16 PM
Yay, can watch MOTD.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: eamonn on August 08, 2015, 04:55:31 PM
Clean sheet, new striker wins it with a goal Benteke would have been proud of . Gotta be happy with that.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: exigo on August 08, 2015, 04:55:36 PM
Christian who?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on August 08, 2015, 04:55:42 PM
Looked like a team full of new players, having said that the front 3 wasn't working so its refreshing too have a manager that can see that and change it and the change won us the match, Richards brilliant second half.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Steve67 on August 08, 2015, 04:56:01 PM
Ace. Well done Villa, Rudy, Tim etc.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: villadelph on August 08, 2015, 04:56:07 PM
Bournemouth have a nice system, think they'll do fine. I don't think we looked particularly good, but a clean sheet, a debut goal and three points make my weekend.

Benteke, who?
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Lizz on August 08, 2015, 04:56:12 PM
Certainly got the impression a lot of people were rooting for Bournemouth. Great result.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: passitsideways on August 08, 2015, 04:56:19 PM
Excellent performance by the back 4 and Gueye in particular. Veretout and Westwood did their jobs in being tidy on the ball and working hard, and squeezed out just enough chances for one of them to be taken.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: enigma on August 08, 2015, 04:56:51 PM
I like this from Chris Sutton:

Quote
Rudy Gestede is the best at what he does in the country. People can't handle him. He went for £6m and people are talking about £12m for Jordan Rhodes. It doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 08, 2015, 04:56:52 PM
Not conceding the late goal. Typical effing Villa, eh?

If I'd done a prediction I'd have said loads of goals, mostly by Bournemouth. Clearly clueless here.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: BILL DE VALL on August 08, 2015, 04:56:56 PM
Un Victoire pour le villa
Bon  :D
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Smirker on August 08, 2015, 04:56:57 PM
Fucked the fuckers.

 ;)
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 08, 2015, 04:57:05 PM
Had a text a few seconds after full time which read 'Villa piss on BBC's chips'
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Chris Stares on August 08, 2015, 04:57:09 PM
Yay, can watch MOTD.
You realise we'll still be last on? ;)
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: asgpaul on August 08, 2015, 04:57:15 PM
Excellent result - much improved second half and a lot of positives to come out the game.

Really like the look of Veretout, CB's did really well - Amavi MOTM.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: richard moore on August 08, 2015, 04:57:47 PM
I like! Brilliant from Richards and Clark, the latter was man of the match for me. Takes the pressure off as we get used to playing with each other and Jordan x 3 get up to speed with the style and pace of football in this league
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Keeno on August 08, 2015, 04:57:55 PM
Bournemouth have a nice system, think they'll do fine. I don't think we looked particularly good, but a clean sheet, a debut goal and three points make my weekend.

Benteke, who?

Any team bar the top four would have been overwhelmed by their gusto in the first half. What is so impressive is that we soaked it up, picked them off when we needed to, and defended well. It wasn't like we didn't create any other chances either - Gueye should have scored, Gabby too. Great win, you can't expect much more than what we did today.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Risso on August 08, 2015, 04:58:08 PM
A win and a clean sheet, that'll do.  Wasn't a classic, but hey.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 08, 2015, 04:58:17 PM
There were loads of mitigating circumstances had we struggled today, other posters have explained them well. Great result.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: ROBBO on August 08, 2015, 04:58:52 PM
Richards was brilliant second half and Gestede will be a handful for any defence all we have to buy is a player that can cross the ball.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Legion on August 08, 2015, 04:59:43 PM
Superb. Three points closer to safety...
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 08, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
Really bad first 45.

Second half was much better, way more open and most players up'd their performance. I thought Clark, Amavi and Richards plus the two subs Sanchez and Gestede all did very well when coming on.

Toss up between Clark & Richards for MOTM for me.

3 Points on the board ;D
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: *shellac* on August 08, 2015, 05:00:03 PM
A great start.

And BBC, f**k you. Haha.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on August 08, 2015, 05:00:07 PM
GESTEDT BENIN
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: class-of-82 on August 08, 2015, 05:00:53 PM
Get in
Brilliant result
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 08, 2015, 05:01:45 PM
Great result. Right now that's all we need. It will take time for the new players and Sherwood to get up to speed.

The important thing is we improved as the game went on. We created very little which is a concern and rode our luck first half but once we got Sinclair off and Rudy on, we looked more purposeful going forward. Delighted for the players to get the three points, they all worked bloody hard even if the end product was mostly a bit tatty.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: supertom on August 08, 2015, 05:01:53 PM
Good result. We were better in the second half. The first half was very poor. Seemed to be a little too early for Ayew and Veretout. Both struggled I felt. Ayew in particular barely got a touch and when he did he gave it away, aside from one good ball to release Gabby.

Gueye had a solid debut I felt. Put himself about well and was composed on the ball.
Amavi was very good at times, but a little sloppy in others positionally. But, what he did show was how threatening he could potentially be on the break.

Richards was MOTM for me. One error aside he was very good. His pace proved useful in covering the gaps Bacuna was leaving. He won almost everything in the air too. Clark did well. Together they look a potentially good pairing.

Gabby was pretty typical. The odd good surge in among a lot of nothing. Sinclair was anonymous. Sanchez made a difference when he came on.

Gestede looked good when he came on. Not just the goal but he picked out a couple of good passes to set Gabby on runs, so it seems he'll be more than just a lump. What is clear though, is that he'll have a lot of joy if we give him the right service. It won't be remotely subtle when Gestede is up top, but he'll probably get goals. Defenders can't handle strikers like that these days.


So what is clear today? 2-3 signings still required, and a little more (quality) experience.
Westwood isn't a starter. He just doesn't offer enough. I'd put Carlos in ahead of him.
Gabby's time has passed.
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: onje_villa on August 08, 2015, 05:03:21 PM
Bournemouth have a nice system, think they'll do fine. I don't think we looked particularly good, but a clean sheet, a debut goal and three points make my weekend.

Benteke, who?

Any team bar the top four would have been overwhelmed by their gusto in the first half. What is so impressive is that we soaked it up, picked them off when we needed to, and defended well. It wasn't like we didn't create any other chances either - Gueye should have scored, Gabby too. Great win, you can't expect much more than what we did today.
Perhaps a bit over positive. They did miss a hatful of chances and got into the box far too many times for my liking. But it was a tough fixture and a great result.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 08, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
We did what needed to be done, which is nice.

Of the new signings, Gueye looks like he could be quite good. Richards and Clark looked fairly comfortable and Amavi had a good game, but then all our left-backs seem to start well...
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: django on August 08, 2015, 05:04:50 PM
Good result. Richards and Clark very good. Amavi was great apart from a couple of lapses in concentration. Rudy looked composed and imposing.

Brads kicking was probably the biggest negative but never mind that now.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Keeno on August 08, 2015, 05:06:00 PM
Bournemouth have a nice system, think they'll do fine. I don't think we looked particularly good, but a clean sheet, a debut goal and three points make my weekend.

Benteke, who?

Any team bar the top four would have been overwhelmed by their gusto in the first half. What is so impressive is that we soaked it up, picked them off when we needed to, and defended well. It wasn't like we didn't create any other chances either - Gueye should have scored, Gabby too. Great win, you can't expect much more than what we did today.
Perhaps a bit over positive. They did miss a hatful of chances and got into the box far too many times for my liking. But it was a tough fixture and a great result.

My point is they were ALWAYS going to have a lot of shots, crosses, and create, particularly first half with the crowd behind them. You can't shut out any team for the entire match and they didn't take their chances - we did. Despite the classic newly-promoted-team environment we've got three points which is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Stu on August 08, 2015, 05:06:17 PM
Certainly got the impression a lot of people were rooting for Bournemouth. Great result.

Including the ref. Where did 5 mins extra time come from? There were no stoppages. The ref should have to justify that, I know we were set up to be the fall guys for the story of the day and everything but that takes the piss.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: johnboy on August 08, 2015, 05:07:03 PM
Well done Villa, we will be the most hated team by the press for the next few weeks
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on August 08, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
With all the new signings today was about getting a point or 3. Job done and helps relieve a bit of pressure which can build up when you are looking for your first win of the season.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Jimbo on August 08, 2015, 05:07:42 PM
Great to get the three points, but we'll need to pull our socks up to our balls in the coming weeks. We gave them more than enough chances to win it.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on August 08, 2015, 05:08:26 PM
A game of two halves, as they say. Richards excellent in the second half. The most pleasing thing is that we had to compete physically, and we did it with the new guys.

Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 08, 2015, 05:08:47 PM
Oh what fun it is to see villa win away
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: in exile on August 08, 2015, 05:09:40 PM
Excellent result - Clark was MoM for me, and I still say we need a right back
Title: Re: AFC Bournemouth vs Aston Villa post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on August 08, 2015, 05:10:03 PM
A lot wrong with the performance but all that matters is the result.

Fair play to Sherwood, team were much better in the second half playing a higher line and made his subs at the right time.

Gestede coming on changed the game and Gabby destroyed their left back for the last 30mins.

Thought Gueye and Amavi had very good debuts, Richards was generally solid particularly in the air though he made some desperate mistakes too. Game passed Ayew by and Im not sure what position Veretout was supposed to play though he showed the odd classy touch.

Guzan made a couple of reasonable stops but his kicking doesnt seem to have got any better over the summer, also Sinclair while working hard continues to disappoint for us away from home. For a man who got a hat trick in the last pre-season game he appeared to strangely lack self belief.

Bournemouth were completely dominant for 15 mins before half time when we handed them two glorious chances.

Worryingly for them they totally ran out of ideas late on and were reduced to hoofing it.

Thought Gestede was absolutely superb when he came on, the kind of goal Benteke used get but his hold up play was top class too.

We have a new hero

Guzan 6, Bacuna 6, Richards 7, Clark 8, Amavi 7, Westwood 5, Gueye 7, Veretout 5, Ayew 4, Gabby 7, Sinclair 5 - Gestede 8, Sanchez 5, Richardson (miles off the pace when he came on)
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: supertom on August 08, 2015, 05:10:57 PM
We still look susceptible to long cross field balls. We got opened up a couple of times on the flanks. Better teams will slice through us like we're warm butter. So it's something that needs identifying. Or it could be the cost of playing two very attacking fullbacks.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: myf on August 08, 2015, 05:11:04 PM
This week I will be mostly listening to

A msg for you rudy
I do like to be beside the seaside
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: London Villan on August 08, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
Well done lads. Tricky start to the season, for all sorts of reasons, so the spirit and effort needs to be commended.

At 4/1 a nice little bit of profit too!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 08, 2015, 05:12:53 PM
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Legion on August 08, 2015, 05:13:39 PM
Well done Villa, we will be the most hated team by the press for the next few weeks

Especially if we beat their favourite team next Friday.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 08, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
First half we struggled. Second half much, much better.

Positives - Amavi and Gueye to me looked the best players on the pitch. I thought Sinclair did well, too. Veretout did pretty well. Gestede, what a fantastic header, and only a bit over 10 mins after coming on. Three points. Nice to get a good start. Richards and Clark also looked like a decent partnership.

Negatives - It looked much too soon for Ayew, the match seemed to totally pass him by. Guzan unconvincing at times, poor distribution.

Generally, I think today was always going to be a tough game for us. For a start, Bournemouth's first top flight game ever, they were going to be up for it, and whoever had played there today would have had a tough time of it.

We are also a "new" team, and will be for a bit. Need to bear that in mind.

I know it's not like we thrashed them or anything, but I think Bournemouth are going to struggle this year. I was surprised by how "agricultural" their play was, I thought they were a possession team?
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Post by: brontebilly on August 08, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Good result. We were better in the second half. The first half was very poor. Seemed to be a little too early for Ayew and Veretout. Both struggled I felt. Ayew in particular barely got a touch and when he did he gave it away, aside from one good ball to release Gabby.

Gueye had a solid debut I felt. Put himself about well and was composed on the ball.
Amavi was very good at times, but a little sloppy in others positionally. But, what he did show was how threatening he could potentially be on the break.

Richards was MOTM for me. One error aside he was very good. His pace proved useful in covering the gaps Bacuna was leaving. He won almost everything in the air too. Clark did well. Together they look a potentially good pairing.

Gabby was pretty typical. The odd good surge in among a lot of nothing. Sinclair was anonymous. Sanchez made a difference when he came on.

Gestede looked good when he came on. Not just the goal but he picked out a couple of good passes to set Gabby on runs, so it seems he'll be more than just a lump. What is clear though, is that he'll have a lot of joy if we give him the right service. It won't be remotely subtle when Gestede is up top, but he'll probably get goals. Defenders can't handle strikers like that these days.


So what is clear today? 2-3 signings still required, and a little more (quality) experience.
Westwood isn't a starter. He just doesn't offer enough. I'd put Carlos in ahead of him.
Gabby's time has passed.

Very harsh on Gabby, him moving to the right along with Gestede coming on was the winning of the game. He was woeful in the first half mind but credit to him for his performance in the second half. Would have been one of the all time great Villa goals if he had slid that left foot shot past Boruc in the second half, some run from him. Sums up his career maybe, threatens to be a very good player occasionally.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: andyh on August 08, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
Gana/Gueye was superb.
Looks like he has been playing in the Orem for years, we are going to be very,very happy with him.

Snake?? Who the fuck is he?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: dekko on August 08, 2015, 05:17:16 PM
As good as the defence was at times I agree with the poster above me who said we'll get sliced up playing against the better teams.

However:

Good performances from all but one of the new signings (and Clark in particular), and overall a very good result from a difficult fixture.
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Post by: OCD on August 08, 2015, 05:17:51 PM
I didn't see the BBC thing that people are referring to - what was said?
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Post by: dekko on August 08, 2015, 05:20:06 PM
I didn't see the BBC thing that people are referring to - what was said?

I don't think it was anything specific, just that they've been banging on about Bournemouth and bigging up this game for some time now.

I don't really mind because if I wasn't Villa I'd have wanted Bournemouth to win, along with the rest of the country.
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Post by: onje_villa on August 08, 2015, 05:20:20 PM
I think Ayew was OK, didn't get involved a great deal but thought he started quite well. You can see he has the attributes, quick strong, good technique. Early days yet.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt C on August 08, 2015, 05:21:43 PM
A fine win given the circumstances and deserved in the end too.

No great surprises that the new players who joined earlier in the summer - Richards, Gueye, Amavi - all looked more comfortable than those who joined later. We'll need time - and a couple more additions.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: CJ on August 08, 2015, 05:23:04 PM
Definition of a frustrating afternoon. Had just settled down to look for a decent stream 10 minutes before kick off and we had a power cut. It's just come back on. So had to sit in the car/sauna all afternoon listening to it on WM.  Sounded like we were a bit shit in the first half with Bournemouth missing some chances, but we picked up well in the second, and a great goal by Gestede. Did Gueye have Gana on his shirt? Three very good points in spite of Clattenburg finding 5 minutes Eddie Howe time. Think it will be a long season for Bournemouth
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 08, 2015, 05:23:23 PM
The most pleasing thing is that we had to compete physically, and we did it with the new guys.

Good point. I was surprised to seem them rather than us running on empty after 80 minutes.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: brontebilly on August 08, 2015, 05:24:08 PM
A fine win given the circumstances and deserved in the end too.

No great surprises that the new players who joined earlier in the summer - Richards, Gueye, Amavi - all looked more comfortable than those who joined later. We'll need time - and a couple more additions.

dont know about that, Gestede only joined 9 days ago  ;D
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Stu on August 08, 2015, 05:27:54 PM
Is it only me that thought Bournemouth looked a bit 'long ball'? Granted I only saw the first half as the stream I was watching went to bits. They put the pressure on in the last 15-20 mins of the first half but they weren't exactly flying at us, and from what I picked up on here we bossed the second half.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 08, 2015, 05:29:27 PM
Always good to get 3 points opening day although hasn't helped us last two seasons!

Half time came at a good point as Bournemouth were well on top at that point and missing chances.

No idea how good this win will be, Bournemouth could be whipping boys or they could become very difficult to beat on their turf as sometimes happens with newly promoted teams.

Gueye looks fantastic, think he'll be my new favourite player particularly as he's replaced you know who.
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Post by: Ads on August 08, 2015, 05:29:46 PM
Great result down here in the heat, lost my voice for the first time in two moths!

I thought that, as others have said, we struggled to impose ourselves in the first half, with Bournemouth fortunately not creating too much bar two shots towards the end.

Second half the midfield three flattened and stepped up a bit and we dominated them. Marvin looked very good, Richards was a beast, Amavi looked excellent going forwards and was nice and strong defensively too.

Defensively we marshalled them and you could see with Veretout and Ayew their quality on the ball, the extra time they give themselves and their movement, even if they weren't match sharp.

Gabby doesn't do it for me, while Guzans kicking is really poor.

Rudy won absolutely everything in the air and looks like Carew with a birds nest on his head. His goal was great, just bullied everybody out the way and drilled it in harder than most people can kick it. He's going to cause all sorts of trouble.

Gueye should have scored too and Gabby.

Very pleasing away win. You could hear the BBC rubbing their hands on the way down and we silenced them.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: old man villa fan on August 08, 2015, 05:29:54 PM
Considering it was virtually a new team, I thought they did well.  It will take time to gel as an effective team.  To be honest, I wasn't expecting much today and would have been pleased to get away from there with a point and not taken to the cleaners.

I thought Gueye, Gana or whatever his name is was MOTM for his non stop running and intelligent use of the ball.  If he keeps that up, Delph will be no great loss.  Amavi gives us a very good outlet down the left and will put up with a few lapses.  Gestede reminds me very much of Crouch generally but the goal was an old fashioned centre forward goal.  He kept his eye on the ball and was not going to be knocked off it and then put power behind the header.  I don't think we can us him all the time as I think we will burn him out.

I think what we lacked today, especially in the 1st half, was composure.  It is an old story but some of the new players look as though they can add that.  Westwood was off the pace of the game and I thought Bacuna had one of those so-so games and just about got away with it.  Ayew looks as though it will take him time to get used to the PL as he looks as though he is used to more space and more time on the ball.  I think he was too far away from Gabby and became isolated.

Still think we need a good wide player for variation to open the game up.  May be not a starter but somebody you can bring on during the game.  A good right back would make a big difference and I am still concerned about the options in centre of defence.  I would be happy with Richards and Clark if they can stay fit and don't get suspended.

Going back to the point about composure, the one that really lacks it is Guzan, to the point where it can seriously affect his game.  Anything instinctive and he is very good but give him time and he cannot handle it.  This is a concern but I think we are going to have to live with it for this season.

Anyway, really pleased with 3 points today. Now let's see them have a go at Man Utd. 
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on August 08, 2015, 05:31:29 PM
An excellent second half performance mainly from Micah Richards who was very good indeed. Amavi and Gueye showed up well but Jordan Ayew failed to impress. Gestede crashed in a header that our great 1960s centre forward Tony Hateley would have been proud of. We should have gone in at half time two goals down but rode our luck and just about deserved the victory. Three very welcome points!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 08, 2015, 05:32:59 PM
Really good second half, particularly pleasing with it being such a changed team. If we can get the delivery right I think we'll see Rudy doing that plenty more times.

Defensively we looked strong other than one or two moments that will hopefully get sorted as they get used to each other.

England regaining the Ashes and Villa winning away, I've had worse days.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt C on August 08, 2015, 05:34:35 PM
I just saw on the BBC that we didn't have a single goal from a substitute last season.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 05:35:12 PM
Is it only me that thought Bournemouth looked a bit 'long ball'? Granted I only saw the first half as the stream I was watching went to bits. They put the pressure on in the last 15-20 mins of the first half but they weren't exactly flying at us, and from what I picked up on here we bossed the second half.

It was long ball disguised as a cross field pass which I am sure the BBC would have been creaming themselves over had they won the game. And they tried it over and over again which we dealt with quite well all considering.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 08, 2015, 05:35:35 PM
I thought Sinclair did well, too.

He did well tracking back but he's very N'Zogbia going forward; picks up the ball, runs forward, gets to a great position then hasn't got a clue what to do with it, loses it.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: eamonn on August 08, 2015, 05:38:47 PM
What did Lambert have to mumble for himself after the game on Setanta?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 08, 2015, 05:40:11 PM
I know it's not like we thrashed them or anything, but I think Bournemouth are going to struggle this year. I was surprised by how "agricultural" their play was, I thought they were a possession team?

They really impressed me in how often the managed to whip in a great cross into the box. If they'd had Rudy playing for them first half they'd of had a hatful. Second half I thought they ran out of steam more than ideas. They're great down the flanks but have nobody in the middle though much of that can be put down to Clark and Richards' performance.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Chris Smith on August 08, 2015, 05:40:48 PM
Is it only me that thought Bournemouth looked a bit 'long ball'? Granted I only saw the first half as the stream I was watching went to bits. They put the pressure on in the last 15-20 mins of the first half but they weren't exactly flying at us, and from what I picked up on here we bossed the second half.

It was long ball disguised as a cross field pass which I am sure the BBC would have been creaming themselves over had they won the game. And they tried it over and over again which we dealt with quite well all considering.

I think you are a little unfair. Most teams will us the long diagonal as an out ball because with the way defences are coached to drift over towards the man in possession there will always be space. That said,  as you say we did generally cope well although a better side might have worked us harder.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: DB on August 08, 2015, 05:41:01 PM
Really good second half, particularly pleasing with it being such a changed team. If we can get the delivery right I think we'll see Rudy doing that plenty more times.

Defensively we looked strong other than one or two moments that will hopefully get sorted as they get used to each other.

England regaining the Ashes and Villa winning away, I've had worse days.

Bllody brilliant day....add to that sun is out, beer in hand and the missus is away.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: CT Villan on August 08, 2015, 05:42:51 PM
Naughty Villa didn't read the script !

Guzan's shot-stopping was excellent, but his distribution was utter, utter crap.
Bacuna had some very dodgy moments too, thankfully Richards was on top of his game.
Other than Clark's mistake stepping up for a non-existent offside, he was very good.
Gana and Amavi were decent, Vertout and Westwood OK.
Gabby was not good enough (maybe not 100% fit) and he didn't work well with Ayew or Sinclair...not enough movement or possession upfront. Shame Kozak didn't play, but next time the excellent Gestede should replace Gabby in the starting XI.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 08, 2015, 05:43:03 PM
Now only 37 games away from being Champions.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
Is it only me that thought Bournemouth looked a bit 'long ball'? Granted I only saw the first half as the stream I was watching went to bits. They put the pressure on in the last 15-20 mins of the first half but they weren't exactly flying at us, and from what I picked up on here we bossed the second half.

It was long ball disguised as a cross field pass which I am sure the BBC would have been creaming themselves over had they won the game. And they tried it over and over again which we dealt with quite well all considering.

I think you are a little unfair. Most teams will us the long diagonal as an out ball because with the way defences are coached to drift over towards the man in possession there will always be space. That said,  as you say we did generally cope well although a better side might have worked us harder.

I was saying during the match thread that they need to be a lot more creative in the PL if they want to stay up. When something isn't really working they'll need to find new ways to create chances. There will better teams than us that will really expose them if they become one dimensional. And everyone knows about Wilson so they will mark him out of the game. He had the one real chance today where he should have scored, and chances aren't so readily available at this level.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: mr woo on August 08, 2015, 05:43:51 PM
Result great, performance dreadful. Will struggle again if that's the true standard of what's to come. I suspect however there will be a gradual improvement with Gil,  Grealish and a new striker to come.

Think Amavi is our best left back since Bouma. Suspect Ayew is a bad un. And Rudy is gonna be very hit n miss.

Sorry to be negative. That's just how I see it.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 08, 2015, 05:45:01 PM
Really happy with the result, considering the challenges we faced

Can't read too much into the good or bad today but I will admit I predicted several things incorrectly

Very surprised with the clean sheet for a start.

Sounds like gueye is the most ready as predicted. A grealish or Gil would really help add subtlety I imagine
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villatillidie25 on August 08, 2015, 05:46:52 PM
Overall, an excellent win that, although a good number of you guys seemed to think we might get, I for one agreed with the majority of the rest of the population and thought it would be a very long afternoon.
There will be teething problems for the first few months and I think it is reasonable to say that we were somewhat toothless at times, which pundits may attribute to the loss of Tekkers and Judas. Nevertheless, we were more solid than I thought we would be (comments below aside) and I saw enough from the likes of Veretout to think that, coupled with Gil, Grealish etc. we will improve at the top of the pitch.
It was always going to be a tough first half with the Bournemouth fans etc. but, bar the final 10 or so minutes of the first half we didn't give much away, which was pleasing. Second half was better with the ball being moved quicker. With a bit of luck, a lot of the disjointedness will have been due to the fact that so many players were new to the team.

Guzan - 7 - Thought he played well, making a couple of decent saves in the first half. His kicking, though, is woeful and we will concede if we continue to insist on him using his feet to play out from the back. Nevertheless, a GK is there to save shots primarily and so his mark can't be affected too much.

Bacuna - 6 - Decent enough and I still quite like him, particularly going forward. His positional sense though still lacks a lot and, worryingly, I don't think it is improving. The cross field balls from Ritchie caused him problems all afternoon and I think teams will target him with those this season

Richards - 8 - Can't have asked for much more from our new captain. A couple of wobbly moments, notably the first half stab across the box, but in the second half, in particular, he was excellent. His pace and power will be a huge asset and he won far more in the air than I expected him too, which is promising.

Clark - 8 - My MOTM - Marginally better than Richards because he basically had no wobbly moments. Tying him down to a long term deal was a very good piece of business as he looks to have really matured in the last 12 months.

Amavi - 7 - Excellent debut. He looks a real threat on the break and incredibly comfortable with the ball at his feet. I think we have finally got a good left back. Solid defensively, especially in one on ones although he does, occasionally, get out of position, which could prove costly. That is likely to be inexperience and, with a bit of luck, a strong partnership with Clark will form that should allow them to cover one another.

Gueye - 7 - Really important player for us today, breaking up play and passing it quickly. I would like to see him be slightly more dynamic otherwise we could find ourselves with 3 very similar players in Sanchez, Gueye and Westwood.

Westwood - 6 - Gets a lot of flack on here but someone I rate. I think he is probably fourth choice in midfield now but a valued member of the squad nonetheless. He reads the game well and does a lot of the unseen stuff such as closing down the angles to block those forward, incisive passes.

Veretout - 6 - Looks a good player and one that I hope will flourish at the Villa because he could be exactly what we have needed for years. He strikes me as a bit like Cabeye, which is no bad thing - capable of playing in a 2 man midfield but more effective when given the licence to push on. Villa fans should be patient with him as I doubt we will see the best of him until next year as he gets up to speed.

Sinclair - 6- Decent enough today, working hard and assisting Amavi where needed. His end product is somewhat lacking though and too often do attacks with him break down or fade away. Nevertheless, a good squad player and someone who is probably more suited to home games as I think he has a real eye for goal.

Ayew - 5 - Fairly disappointed in Ayew but I think he will be the one that takes the longest to settle. He has all the attributes though to succeed but his slightly hot and cold nature might mean that he struggles to find a run of form and possibly pitch time to really settle this season. He's talented though and should be persevered with. The game today though probably came a bit too soon for him and largely passed him by. I would definitely consider switching him out for United given that they are likely to have far more of the ball.

Agbonlahor - 6 - A typical Gabby game really. Showed glimpses of ability but flattered to deceive to often. The run before his effort was excellent but his shot was poor. I did, though, think he was better on the wing and expect that he will continue to primarily be used in a front three but out wide. Although many have written him off I think there is still a place for him in the squad, especially given that Ayew will take time, and we don't really have anyone who offers an Agbonlahor type threat - pace and direct running (as occasionally as he shows it).

Sanchez - 7 - Very good when he came on and made a difference. Will be first choice this season and I expect him to be a very important player for us now that he has settled in.
Gestede - 7 - Held the ball up well, played a few nice through balls and got the winner. Not much more you could ask for to be honest. I think he is somewhat limited though but will score goals. We should buy a new CF (or loan Adebayor) and loan Kozak out to a Championship team for 6 months with a callback option.
Richardson - 5 - Minimal time to make an impact but looked way off the pace. Cup games only for KR.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 05:48:13 PM
Result great, performance dreadful. Will struggle again if that's the true standard of what's to come. I suspect however there will be a gradual improvement with Gil,  Grealish and a new striker to come.

Think Amavi is our best left back since Bouma. Suspect Ayew is a bad un. And Rudy is gonna be very hit n miss.

Sorry to be negative. That's just how I see it.

Fair enough on your opinion but certainly didn't think we were dreadful. I certainly think we were way too cautious in the first half, possibly aimed and dulling their energy which we knew they would come with. We did get a bit lucky a couple of times in the first half, but in the second half we were much, much better. And this lot will get better as they play more. Bournemouth have players that for the most part came up and they have that chemistry that we don't yet. We'll get better and more fluid in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 08, 2015, 05:51:22 PM
Excellent start. Nothing can a spoil a first day win.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: mr underhill on August 08, 2015, 05:58:27 PM
i'd rather take any win than loose
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 08, 2015, 06:00:18 PM
Excellent result. I could only follow by BBC text today and it seemed like everyone else wanted Bournemouth to win, but we did it. Great for Rudy to score on debut. Anyone else standout?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 08, 2015, 06:00:54 PM
For those who watched / went, how did the midfield look when it was Westwood, gueye and Sanchez? Did one of them play further forward (gueye?)

Looks like Andre Ayew has settled in a bit more quickly than his bro. Lovely goal
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Steve R on August 08, 2015, 06:01:08 PM
I thought Bournemouth played very well. They covered every blade of grass and gave us no room to work with at all. It made for ugly football, but by extension we played very well ourselves in the way we saw the game through. I am fairly sure that over the 90 minutes we shaded the 'maybe should have scored' count. Being naturally nervous watchers we tend to notice Bournemouth's moments more.

Maybe the best statistic is the number of players who have been mentioned on this thread as having very good games. I made it three or four candidates for man of the match. We profited from not needing a couple of players to play well as our best hope of wining. Today two would have been nowhere near enough. We certainly seem to have a better midfield.

Gestede is no Benteke. There was no salmon like leap for an elegant header. The goal had more of an Andy Gray hue if anything. The ball came somewhere near his manor so he made sure he got there first and bludgeoned it in. Another 13 like that in the league and we will have traded up on last season. Particularly if more than two come before March.

Not a great game to watch, but the Ligue 1 players will have played in nothing like it before in terms of intensity and hustle. I just hope of few of the ones hobbling at the end - particularly Richards - are there next Friday.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: manic-road on August 08, 2015, 06:01:22 PM
Chuffed with the three points, now off for more than three pints.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Risso on August 08, 2015, 06:02:55 PM
I thought Richards and Clark on the whole looked very strong, Amavi was superb, and Gueye and Veretout showed enough.  The formation was wrong the first half, but we looked much better when Gestede came on.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: paulcomben on August 08, 2015, 06:04:27 PM
We're Aston Villa/ We're not naive any more.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 06:05:33 PM
For those who watched / went, how did the midfield look when it was Westwood, gueye and Sanchez? Did one of them play further forward (gueye?)

Looks like Andre Ayew has settled in a bit more quickly than his bro. Lovely goal

Gueye was very good and likes to come forward. Westwood and Sanchez both sat deep and looked fine especially the latter who appeared way more involved. Vestetout I don't think was in his best position more on the right and it will interesting to see him develop. Looked decent.

Jordan is project but I think once he gets up to speed he'll be fine. There is no doubt Andre is much more the finished article.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: paulcomben on August 08, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
BBC already dishing out pro-Villa, Bentekesque stats, the fickle fuckers. "Since the start of 2013-14, Rudy Gestede has scored 20 headed goals; five more than anyone else in the top four tiers."
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 08, 2015, 06:07:46 PM
Gueye and Amavi both looked extremely impressive.

Gueye is a very good passer of the ball, works very hard, and I noticed he fights like fuck to get the ball back when he loses it. Very impressed indeed.

I mean this in a totally non-negative way, but Amavi will be somewhere like Chelsea inside three years.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: andyh on August 08, 2015, 06:10:42 PM
Great result down here in the heat, lost my voice for the first time in two moths!

I thought that, as others have said, we struggled to impose ourselves in the first half, with Bournemouth fortunately not creating too much bar two shots towards the end.

Second half the midfield three flattened and stepped up a bit and we dominated them. Marvin looked very good, Richards was a beast, Amavi looked excellent going forwards and was nice and strong defensively too.

Defensively we marshalled them and you could see with Veretout and Ayew their quality on the ball, the extra time they give themselves and their movement, even if they weren't match sharp.

Gabby doesn't do it for me, while Guzans kicking is really poor.

Rudy won absolutely everything in the air and looks like Carew with a birds nest on his head. His goal was great, just bullied everybody out the way and drilled it in harder than most people can kick it. He's going to cause all sorts of trouble.

Gueye should have scored too and Gabby.

Very pleasing away win. You could hear the BBC rubbing their hands on the way down and we silenced them.
Marvin!

I bloody love it.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 06:10:48 PM
Gueye and Amavi both looked extremely impressive.

Gueye is a very good passer of the ball, works very hard, and I noticed he fights like fuck to get the ball back when he loses it. Very impressed indeed.

I mean this in a totally non-negative way, but Amavi will be somewhere like Chelsea inside three years.

He reminds me of Evra. I have no doubt he'll be off in 2-3 years for £20m plus. Solid defender and loves to get forward. If he develops into a consistent supply down the left to Gestede or Kozak he'll be sensational.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 08, 2015, 06:12:48 PM
Good to hear that Richards, Gueye and Amavi sound like they've settled well.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 08, 2015, 06:15:07 PM
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on August 08, 2015, 06:15:37 PM
Another thing to consider apart from all the new signings is the mindset  and confidence of the players. Sherwood and Richards have mentioned the winning mentality and it will take a while for some of the players to get this and their confidence after what they have been through with Lambert. I bet some games under Lambert they actually dreaded  being pick for games.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: mrfuse on August 08, 2015, 06:19:23 PM

Richards - 8 - Can't have asked for much more from our new captain. A couple of wobbly moments, notably the first half stab across the box, but in the second half, in particular, he was excellent. His pace and power will be a huge asset and he won far more in the air than I expected him too, which is promising.

Clark - 8 - My MOTM - Marginally better than Richards because he basically had no wobbly moments. Tying him down to a long term deal was a very good piece of business as he looks to have really matured in the last 12 months.
Although I agree with a lot your comments I would give Richards MOTM. You say Clark didn't have any wobbly moments but he nearly cost us a goal by weirdly trying to play offside and Richards weight was all on his back foot hence the stab.
Hard to be too critical as both played really well, but I felt Richards commanded slightly more than Clark.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 08, 2015, 06:20:06 PM
Third  first game of the season win in a row. Let's not get carried away yet!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: brian green on August 08, 2015, 06:22:27 PM
Amavi is the son of John Gidman and the grandson of Charlie Aitken.   The latest in a line of full backs to be adored by the Villa Park faithful. I am absolutely delighted by this win. TSMs 1 and 2 would have lost that game.   You just wait until they bed in, then you will see some damage inflicted. Only another 35 points and we should be safe.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: eamonn on August 08, 2015, 06:23:20 PM
Barton in comms and Gestede in his post match interview referred to Westwood as Kieron and Alex respectively. Poor non-descript Ashley.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Risso on August 08, 2015, 06:23:51 PM
I hope that Sherwood doesn't persevere with 4-3-2-1 if it's Gabby as a lone striker, it just won't work.  I think Gestede with Ayew and Grealish behind him could work though.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 08, 2015, 06:24:48 PM
Reading the report on the Times web site, it's like Bournemouth were a creative, passing side and we were the hopeful lumpers.

That's not even remotely the way it looked to me.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 06:29:27 PM
I hope that Sherwood doesn't persevere with 4-3-2-1 if it's Gabby as a lone striker, it just won't work.  I think Gestede with Ayew and Grealish behind him could work though.

I think he'll play different systems for different games. I didn't like how we set up in the first half at all today, but he felt it was the right approach to stop them from playing. I'm sure it will evolve and will differ based on the opponent. Once we started to play with it in the second half we looked really quite good at times.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 08, 2015, 06:29:43 PM
It's typical media that though. There's this general assumption that Bournemouth are Barcelona light, which is nonsense.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: brian green on August 08, 2015, 06:30:12 PM
The Times sells well in Bournemouth and environs PW.  They have to pander to their readership.  I am sure the Sunday Mercury will do the same for us. (hollow laughter).
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 08, 2015, 06:32:20 PM
Can anyone vine the goal
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Tuscans on August 08, 2015, 06:40:54 PM
Can anyone confirm Kozak was injured?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Monty on August 08, 2015, 06:41:56 PM
Reading the report on the Times web site, it's like Bournemouth were a creative, passing side and we were the hopeful lumpers.

That's not even remotely the way it looked to me.

It's bollocks, based entirely on reputation and misreading the stats. Obviously Bournemouth had much more of the ball than we did - we were winning, therefore we defended. Both teams played the ball on the ground and counter-attacked as quickly as they good.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 08, 2015, 06:43:07 PM


I swear Mr McParland is looking younger all the time.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on August 08, 2015, 06:45:23 PM


I swear Mr McParland is looking younger all the time.

That's what I thought. I went to school with 2 of his nephews who are the spitting image of him, and he looks younger than them.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 08, 2015, 06:47:24 PM
A propos of nothing, this is very funny.

https://twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/629966712037900288/video/1
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on August 08, 2015, 06:56:43 PM
A lot of the time it's hard supporting the villa. Non football fans will ever get it but I fuckin love my beloved Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: mr underhill on August 08, 2015, 07:03:09 PM
thought Gestede came across really well in the post match interview
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Monty on August 08, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
I liked hearing Sherwood talk about the importance of 'imagination' in our play, and that he wants more of it.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ez on August 08, 2015, 07:06:32 PM
Can anyone confirm Kozak was injured?

I think he must be otherwise having Gabby picked ahead of him is quite an insult.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Stu on August 08, 2015, 07:08:51 PM
I liked hearing Sherwood talk about the importance of 'imagination' in our play, and that he wants more of it.

In the interview he explains his thought process for how he wanted the game to proceed and it worked. Sherwood is always going to get pelters for being a "run araaahhhhnd a bit" coach, but it looks like he might have a bit more to him than that. I hope.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 08, 2015, 07:12:44 PM
Happy with that. Some pleasing solidity at the back. Nice to get a win as the team figures out how to work with each other. Bit disturbed by Ayew's poor touches but hopefully he will come into his own. Amavi is great :)
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LTA on August 08, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
A difficult start for us and we had to ride  storm a little, but a well earned win and a great finish from Gestede.  Certainly can take a lot of encouragement from today.

Amused to hear that Setanta had Lambert on and he was criticizing us for playing the ball backwards too much in the first half......,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt C on August 08, 2015, 07:19:20 PM
#irony

He must have been quite shocked at the sight of a shot on goal.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 08, 2015, 07:29:23 PM
A difficult start for us and we had to ride  storm a little, but a well earned win and a great finish from Gestede.  Certainly can take a lot of encouragement from today.

Amused to hear that Setanta had Lambert on and he was criticizing us for playing the ball backwards too much in the first half......,,,,,,,

I'm trying to think of a suitable analogy. Thatcher criticising Cameron's anti-union stance?

Over to you...
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Steve R on August 08, 2015, 07:34:14 PM
A difficult start for us and we had to ride  storm a little, but a well earned win and a great finish from Gestede.  Certainly can take a lot of encouragement from today.

Amused to hear that Setanta had Lambert on and he was criticizing us for playing the ball backwards too much in the first half......,,,,,,,

Blatter talking about the disgrace that was England's World Cup bid - can't remember the exact words.

I'm trying to think of a suitable analogy. Thatcher criticising Cameron's anti-union stance?

Over to you...
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Summers on August 08, 2015, 07:35:12 PM
I had a dream last night that we won and Gestede scored from a header (cross from the left, for what it's worth).



Quite happy with my prediction! Fucking love Rudy, he's gonna be good for us!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on August 08, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
Lamberts a hypocritical bell end, he's probably still in shock at seeing a manager change tactics during a game too positive effect. The dour cock end!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: OCD on August 08, 2015, 07:41:00 PM
I liked hearing Sherwood talk about the importance of 'imagination' in our play, and that he wants more of it.

I liked hearing him screaming 'movement, more movement' from the touchline during the game.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 08, 2015, 07:43:15 PM
I liked hearing Sherwood talk about the importance of 'imagination' in our play, and that he wants more of it.

I liked hearing him screaming 'movement, more movement' from the touchline during the game.

Me too. I think he clearly wants us to play at a far higher tempo .
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: mr woo on August 08, 2015, 07:54:26 PM
Result great, performance dreadful. Will struggle again if that's the true standard of what's to come. I suspect however there will be a gradual improvement with Gil,  Grealish and a new striker to come.

Think Amavi is our best left back since Bouma. Suspect Ayew is a bad un. And Rudy is gonna be very hit n miss.

Sorry to be negative. That's just how I see it.

Fair enough on your opinion but certainly didn't think we were dreadful. I certainly think we were way too cautious in the first half, possibly aimed and dulling their energy which we knew they would come with. We did get a bit lucky a couple of times in the first half, but in the second half we were much, much better. And this lot will get better as they play more. Bournemouth have players that for the most part came up and they have that chemistry that we don't yet. We'll get better and more fluid in the coming weeks.

Yeah I hear what you're saying. The resolute defending in the second half alone probably raises it above 'dreadful' but I can only recall one effort on target. Against  essentially a second division team. Who should've been two up at half time.

Say Rudys header had hit the post. I think the performance would have been criticised to hell on here. Thats kind of what I'm getting at.

Edited to correct Damn predictive text...
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 08, 2015, 07:55:31 PM
Can anyone vine the goal

Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 08, 2015, 07:57:32 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on August 08, 2015, 07:57:48 PM
Hope the team are more positive about the performance than some of the fans. We fuckin won.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Summers on August 08, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2015, 08:05:06 PM
A difficult start for us and we had to ride  storm a little, but a well earned win and a great finish from Gestede.  Certainly can take a lot of encouragement from today.

Amused to hear that Setanta had Lambert on and he was criticizing us for playing the ball backwards too much in the first half......,,,,,,,

Blatter talking about the disgrace that was England's World Cup bid - can't remember the exact words.

I'm trying to think of a suitable analogy. Thatcher criticising Cameron's anti-union stance?

Over to you...
Donald Trump referring to one of his Rebulican candidate rivals as a fruit loop or whatever the insult was.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2015, 08:06:16 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
You can quickly go off people.
Maybe he's already lining himself up to be this seasons Nigel Pearson.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 08, 2015, 08:07:44 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
I don't buy into this Bournemouth love-in. They can f**k off where they came from as far as I'm concerned .
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2015, 08:08:07 PM


I swear Mr McParland is looking younger all the time.

That's what I thought. I went to school with 2 of his nephews who are the spitting image of him, and he looks younger than them.
He certainly looks like he's keeping well.
And as someone who knows a bit about burying the odd header, he certainly seemed to appreciate that one.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on August 08, 2015, 08:08:21 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
I don't buy into this Bournemouth love-in. They can f**k off where they came from as far as I'm concerned .

Same. I'm already bored of the bastards.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 08, 2015, 08:11:21 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
I don't buy into this Bournemouth love-in. They can f**k off where they came from as far as I'm concerned .

Same. I'm already bored of the bastards.

Fair points, but there's hardly any teams left that I don't hate.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 08, 2015, 08:13:28 PM
Did Howe mean lower league defending to leave our biggest bloke a free header at a corner?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2015, 08:15:42 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
I don't buy into this Bournemouth love-in. They can f**k off where they came from as far as I'm concerned .

Same. I'm already bored of the bastards.

Fair points, but there's hardly any teams left that I don't hate.
That's fair enough.
How many times have we done the "and I hate 91 of them thread" over the years.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Summers on August 08, 2015, 08:15:45 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
I don't buy into this Bournemouth love-in. They can f**k off where they came from as far as I'm concerned .

Same. I'm already bored of the bastards.

Fair points, but there's hardly any teams left that I don't hate.

I'm 13 seasons into a FM game as Bournemouth, so my wanting them to stay up comes from that.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 08, 2015, 08:15:56 PM
Absolutely no need for negativity. The team, with all their debutants, showed reasonable promise and came back from a tricky away day fixture with three points. Most of the new acquisitions showed potential. Who knows how the team will develop from here? Time will tell and I doubt we are finished in this transfer window. Individually, the French lads all seem to have good ability with the exception of Ayew who would have had problems trapping bags of cement today. There could be the makings of a side there. At least we know Sherwood will let them play with a level of freedom and expression that we have been starved of. F**k you Lamberk, thanks for nothing. C'mon Villa, onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Lizz on August 08, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
It's Saturday night. Alcohol is being consumed; what I like about Sherwood is he seems not to be too stubborn and he's willing to learn from his mistakes/recognise when something's not working.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 08, 2015, 08:17:12 PM
It's Saturday night. Alcohol is being consumed; what I like about Sherwood is he seems not to be too stubborn and he's willing to learn from his mistakes/recognise when something's not working.

That's Gabby fucked then!

/baddumtish
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2015, 08:17:28 PM
Did Howe mean lower league defending to leave our biggest bloke a free header at a corner?
Or maybe he meant that it was a lower league goal because the defending was actually Sunday pub league standard?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: warleyboy on August 08, 2015, 08:18:12 PM
3 points in the bag.
First half was pretty poor, but some good moments in the second.
Highlights from the game are the brill Gestede, Richards/Clark pairing and Gana in midfield already looking a great buy.
This team can only get better, can't wait to see Grealish and Gil thrown into the mix.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 08, 2015, 08:21:17 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
I don't buy into this Bournemouth love-in. They can f**k off where they came from as far as I'm concerned .

Same. I'm already bored of the bastards.

Fair points, but there's hardly any teams left that I don't hate.
That's fair enough.
How many times have we done the "and I hate 91 of them thread" over the years.

The Acker Doctrine, as it's properly known.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: mr woo on August 08, 2015, 08:23:31 PM
And based on today's performance, I wouldn't bother with Lennon, I'd get Albrighton back.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on August 08, 2015, 08:26:09 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


Oh yeah. Headed goals from corners are very lower league. In fact, it's banned in the CL and World Cup, for being so textbook lower league.

I like Bournemouth, and hope they stay up. But that's a load of crap.
I don't buy into this Bournemouth love-in. They can f**k off where they came from as far as I'm concerned .

seconded

they win the fizzy pop then all of a sudden they are real madrid and how dare we beat them
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: steffo on August 08, 2015, 08:29:50 PM
Could have went in 3-0 down at HT. But such is football we won. I feel we will have to wait to November/ December to see this team gel. Do not be surprised to see them go on a run over the New Year and reach survival way before May.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 08, 2015, 08:37:45 PM
Awful first half.
Richards Clark were very good, I thought Richards showed real leadership.
Gueye got better as the game went on
Amavi is some player, we are going to enjoy watching him this season.
I thought Gabby did well in the second half as he made some powerful runs and stretched them.
That Goal was Andy Lockheadesque, don't care if that is described as lower league, I bloody loved it.
Lets follow that up with a result against the Mancs UTV
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: London Villan on August 08, 2015, 08:38:59 PM
Gabby should be used away from home to do exactly that.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: FrankyH on August 08, 2015, 08:44:37 PM
Had a text a few seconds after full time which read 'Villa piss on BBC's chips'

We pissed on the whole of the media wankfest that would have unfolded  had Bournemouth won.
No F*cking story at the end of the news for all those lazy f*cking journalists...

Anyone remember that Spitting Image scene when John Craven's News Round and News at Ten swap stories..

Frank the Tortoise has twins , Arnold the singing Turkey is dead, oh yes and the mass murderer who eats his victims,

You get my drift !
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 08, 2015, 08:51:40 PM
Had a text a few seconds after full time which read 'Villa piss on BBC's chips'

We pissed on the whole of the media wankfest that would have unfolded  had Bournemouth won.
No F*cking story at the end of the news for all those lazy f*cking journalists...


It was also just wrong. For all the commentary of "Oh but Bournemouth are playing some lovely stuff" I didnt see that at all. Howes tactics reminded me strongly of the Lambert Tika Taka. Piss about in your own half for ages then lose the ball when trying a rare attack.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LeeB on August 08, 2015, 08:57:44 PM
Whenever I saw them last season it was diagonal balls over the top to Wilson, and an obligatory penalty.

They can fuck off. I expect next time we meet they'll be adrift a the bottom.

And if it is "lower league stuff" then get used to it pal, I suspect you'll see a lot more of it from next season.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 08, 2015, 08:59:52 PM
I think we have to look at a Goalkeeper, Guzans kicking is just not good enough for this level.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 09:00:16 PM
Howe's comment is beyond naive. He'll be well advised to score a few lower league goals if he has any ambition of staying in the league.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 08, 2015, 09:00:49 PM
Excellent result - Clark was MoM for me, and I still say we need a right back

We've got an international right back. Tim didn't pick him
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 08, 2015, 09:01:46 PM
I think we have to look at a Goalkeeper, Guzans kicking is just not good enough for this level.
Bunn has looked good pre season.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PGW on August 08, 2015, 09:02:24 PM
I think we have to look at a Goalkeeper, Guzans kicking is just not good enough for this level.
His shot stopping in the first half was though wasn't it!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on August 08, 2015, 09:03:24 PM
goal here  - http://streamable.com/dkp8

Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: olaftab on August 08, 2015, 09:03:33 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.

And he is an expert in higher league football. Will be sacked at Xmas when they are stuck at the bottom!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on August 08, 2015, 09:05:53 PM
Very good result, bring on United!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: olaftab on August 08, 2015, 09:05:58 PM
goal here  - http://streamable.com/dkp8


Cheers. I think Micah would have got it if Rudy hadn't also watch very good "work" 😉by Clark!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: nodge on August 08, 2015, 09:07:18 PM
Did Howe mean lower league defending to leave our biggest bloke a free header at a corner?

That's the first thing I thought, bit of a stupid statement and doesn't say much about his defenders if they can't keep out a textbook lower league goal.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on August 08, 2015, 09:07:34 PM
(http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/13B74/production/_84765708_motd.png)
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LeeB on August 08, 2015, 09:08:32 PM
goal here  - http://streamable.com/dkp8


Cheers. I think Micah would have got it if Rudy hadn't also watch very good "work" 😉by Clark!

Tony Gale was creaming himself over that header.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: OCD on August 08, 2015, 09:10:20 PM
I didn't realise there are different classes of goals or that if we had scored a screamer, we would have gone away with more than 3 points. Stupid comment.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 08, 2015, 09:11:01 PM
goal here  - http://streamable.com/dkp8


Cheers. I think Micah would have got it if Rudy hadn't also watch very good "work" 😉by Clark!

Tony Gale was creaming himself over that header.
see the bloke on the post run to the middle o the goal
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Summers on August 08, 2015, 09:16:59 PM
I can't wait to hear Shearer talk about that header.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Chipsticks on August 08, 2015, 09:23:45 PM
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN


(https://i.imgur.com/gJy7H3I.jpg)
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Jimbo on August 08, 2015, 09:28:12 PM
goal here  - http://streamable.com/dkp8



If that goal was words it'd be 'fuck' and 'off'.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on August 08, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
Some highlights here - http://www.lastminutegoals.org/2015/08/08/afc-bournemouth-vs-aston-villa-highlights/
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 09:46:54 PM
goal here  - http://streamable.com/dkp8


Cheers. I think Micah would have got it if Rudy hadn't also watch very good "work" 😉by Clark!

Tony Gale was creaming himself over that header.

At least he didn't say today that if Clark continues to improve he may get a chance with England lol. The commentator was gushing about Bournemouth for all 95 minutes I thought
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: olaftab on August 08, 2015, 09:55:13 PM
I had the pleasure of watching the match as prawn sandwich guest. It's an awful stadium with poor facilities but I guess that's due to their history. I thought we played ok as it's almost a new team that was playing against a very successful joined up team full of confidence from their exploits of last season. We were also playing against all the hype and  their fans expectations of a party and huge noise level. If we can keep out of trouble in the first third of the season than we will improve and grow as a cohesive unit. Before that we are going to run into trouble against better teams. Like others I liked Amavi and Gueye however Veretout and Ayew were no too bright probably due to lack of football. I would like to see Ayew and Gestede line up against manure. Almost missed the goal due to fat bloke who decided to stand up in front of me  to shout at the ref for giving us a corner. However I thought they were a friendly bunch and tolerated my clinched fist celebration.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: CT Villan on August 08, 2015, 09:59:28 PM
What a numpty Howe is...U11 defending against a lower league goal then. They had neither Gestede or Richards marked.

What pleased me most was Tim saying afterwards that the tactics were to keep it very tight and restricted first half to dampen down the party atmosphere, then open up and go for it a little more second half...job done. Who says he's tactically naive ?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
Evening Olaftab, I thought Veretout showed a few glimpses of his class and will improve in the near future, seemed a bit short fitness wise. Ayew weren't great but I think he also showed a little bit. Gureye (Gana) was really good IMO and Amavi can become the best left back I have seen in my 45 years of watching the club if he stays for 3 years. By then I think he will be a top top player
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 10:13:41 PM
What a numpty Howe is...U11 defending against a lower league goal then. They had neither Gestede or Richards marked.

What pleased me most was Tim saying afterwards that the tactics were to keep it very tight and restricted first half to dampen down the party atmosphere, then open up and go for it a little more second half...job done. Who says he's tactically naive ?

To be fair we were lucky to be level at half time
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: supertom on August 08, 2015, 10:17:33 PM
Ayew really struggled but I think playing him on the right didn't do him any favours. He looked lost there. If he has to play wide, he generally plays on the left, but his preference is through the middle.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 08, 2015, 10:18:33 PM
To be even fairer, they managed 2 shots on target the whole game. They lost, fuck 'em. They'll soon be relegated and back to struggling to pull in 6k at home.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 08, 2015, 10:25:51 PM
It's Saturday night. Alcohol is being consumed; what I like about Sherwood is he seems not to be too stubborn and he's willing to learn from his mistakes/recognise when something's not working.

Good point.  His ability to learn, change things, is not something I was expecting.  Also it is not in a flaky way, he still has his strong beliefs but he is way more flexible, maybe studious that I thought he would be.

His transfer targets too were way more imaginative than I was expecting.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 10:27:45 PM
To be even fairer, they managed 2 shots on target the whole game. They lost, fuck 'em. They'll soon be relegated and back to struggling to pull in 6k at home.

My point was they should have been ahead at half time, sorry if you don't agree but no need to be sarcastic.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: andyh on August 08, 2015, 10:29:12 PM
Evening Olaftab, I thought Veretout showed a few glimpses of his class and will improve in the near future, seemed a bit short fitness wise. Ayew weren't great but I think he also showed a little bit. Gureye (Gana) was really good IMO and Amavi can become the best left back I have seen in my 45 years of watching the club if he stays for 3 years. By then I think he will be a top top player
The control and move when Vertetout pulled down the ball that had snow on it from westwood was just sublime. I think that was a sign of things to come.

As for Gana/Gueye......I love him already.
But, as was mentioned in another post, can't we just call him Marvin?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 08, 2015, 10:36:34 PM
To be even fairer, they managed 2 shots on target the whole game. They lost, fuck 'em. They'll soon be relegated and back to struggling to pull in 6k at home.

My point was they should have been ahead at half time, sorry if you don't agree but no need to be sarcastic.

I wasn't being sarcastic. It aimed at the media Bournemouth wankathon, not you.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 10:38:08 PM
Evening Olaftab, I thought Veretout showed a few glimpses of his class and will improve in the near future, seemed a bit short fitness wise. Ayew weren't great but I think he also showed a little bit. Gureye (Gana) was really good IMO and Amavi can become the best left back I have seen in my 45 years of watching the club if he stays for 3 years. By then I think he will be a top top player
The control and move when Vertetout pulled down the ball that had snow on it from westwood was just sublime. I think that was a sign of things to come.

As for Gana/Gueye......I love him already.
But, as was mentioned in another post, can't we just call him Marvin?

That was superb and a few more games and reckon veretout will become a top class player. Richards was immense and my MOTM but the player I really got excited about was Amavi. In my 45 years of watching Villa, only seen a better debut left back performance than that from Gordon Smith v West Ham in August 1976, but he never displayed it again lol. Three years at Villa and I reckon this lad will be in my best Villa XI
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on August 08, 2015, 10:38:43 PM
I only saw the second half but I thought Gueye continued his fine pre season form and both centre halves did well. Great away win and very welcome as I thought a draw might be the best we could expect against a side playing their first prem game.

The return of Gil and Jack cant come quick enough to give us creativity in the final third, also I thought both full backs were a little susceptible to having runners dart inside for diagonal ball.

Fantastic win
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villan from luton on August 08, 2015, 10:39:28 PM
To be even fairer, they managed 2 shots on target the whole game. They lost, fuck 'em. They'll soon be relegated and back to struggling to pull in 6k at home.

My point was they should have been ahead at half time, sorry if you don't agree but no need to be sarcastic.

I wasn't being sarcastic. It aimed at the media Bournemouth wankathon, not you.

Fair enough, I apologise
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Stu on August 08, 2015, 11:05:29 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.

Sounds a bit Albion, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2015, 11:15:25 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.

Sounds a bit Albion, doesn't it?
T'ay fair loike, he wuz bigga an os, an ee scored day I.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: olaftab on August 08, 2015, 11:32:27 PM
Evening Olaftab, I thought Veretout showed a few glimpses of his class and will improve in the near future, seemed a bit short fitness wise. Ayew weren't great but I think he also showed a little bit. Gureye (Gana) was really good IMO and Amavi can become the best left back I have seen in my 45 years of watching the club if he stays for 3 years. By then I think he will be a top top player
Hi VFL I do hope they both get better and better. As I said I don't think they have had too much football so far this season. I also agree on   Amavi could turn out to be better than Gidman and Staunton.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: joe_c on August 08, 2015, 11:45:52 PM
I'm too lazy to scroll through the entire thread but that's three opening day wins away from home in a row which is pretty good. Hopefully the rest of the season doesn't peter out as spectacularly as the last two years. I don't think it will.

We looked decent today without really being impressive but we know there are options available to change things and the new players give the impression they will improve as the season progresses. Amavi looks like a real talent to me

Would be nice to put some distance between us and the chasing pack next Friday.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: TonyD on August 08, 2015, 11:48:50 PM
Where are Jack n Gill?

Stop your messing around....
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 08, 2015, 11:49:01 PM
I like the fact that we have Grealish and Gil to come in when fit. Two incredibly talented creative players. Both players will have a massive part to play this season.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 08, 2015, 11:50:26 PM
Where are Jack n Gill?

Stop your messing around....

Well we know that Jack fell down..😁
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: richard moore on August 09, 2015, 12:08:34 AM
Where are Jack n Gill?

Stop your messing around....

Well we know that Jack fell down..😁

He needed love he didn't get from Gil
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Clampy on August 09, 2015, 12:14:06 AM
Not long got back. First half I thought we were poor and could have been a couple of goals down. Second half, much better and we looked more of a threat. I think we've got two very good players in Amavi and Geyue. Overall a decent start.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villan from luton on August 09, 2015, 12:21:27 AM
Evening Olaftab, I thought Veretout showed a few glimpses of his class and will improve in the near future, seemed a bit short fitness wise. Ayew weren't great but I think he also showed a little bit. Gureye (Gana) was really good IMO and Amavi can become the best left back I have seen in my 45 years of watching the club if he stays for 3 years. By then I think he will be a top top player
Hi VFL I do hope they both get better and better. As I said I don't think they have had too much football so far this season. I also agree on   Amavi could turn out to be better than Gidman and Staunton.

Well I loved Gidman at right back and saw him in the Youth Cup, but left back wise I think Amavi can become a world class player. What did you think of  some of the other signings?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 09, 2015, 12:34:51 AM
Write up from The Guardian Aston Villa’s Rudy Gestede brings Bournemouth down to earth (http://gu.com/p/4bc6d?)
Sounds pretty balanced based on the comments so far.

Particularly like this bit
Quote from: The Guardian
Four minutes later, Villa won a corner on the right. Ashley Westwood drove the ball into the Bournemouth area and Gestede exploded, bouncing into the air like a kangaroo wearing a jetpack and battering a header past Boruc. It would have taken a brave man to stop him. The Premier League is an unforgiving place.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LeeB on August 09, 2015, 12:50:53 AM
Re: Sherwood

I was pissed off when he was linked, so much so that I was hoping that we'd instead go and steal Pulis from the stripeys.

The someone posted an article talking to a guy that had taken him through his badges, and it presented a different picture of him.

That changed my view, and God knows I needed hope at the time.

But the really brilliant thing is that what has happened is that since then he's totally justified that different view and then some.

He's absolutely perfect for us, he's everything we need when we really needed it.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 09, 2015, 12:53:42 AM
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LeeB on August 09, 2015, 12:57:40 AM
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

I hope he's ok, but that is a pearler.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on August 09, 2015, 01:14:23 AM
Evening Olaftab, I thought Veretout showed a few glimpses of his class and will improve in the near future, seemed a bit short fitness wise. Ayew weren't great but I think he also showed a little bit. Gureye (Gana) was really good IMO and Amavi can become the best left back I have seen in my 45 years of watching the club if he stays for 3 years. By then I think he will be a top top player
The control and move when Vertetout pulled down the ball that had snow on it from westwood was just sublime. I think that was a sign of things to come.

As for Gana/Gueye......I love him already.
But, as was mentioned in another post, can't we just call him Marvin?

That was superb and a few more games and reckon veretout will become a top class player. Richards was immense and my MOTM but the player I really got excited about was Amavi. In my 45 years of watching Villa, only seen a better debut left back performance than that from Gordon Smith v West Ham in August 1976, but he never displayed it again lol. Three years at Villa and I reckon this lad will be in my best Villa XI

Staunton and even Luna's debuts were pretty memorable!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 09, 2015, 01:43:41 AM
You'll be hard pressed to beat Luna's debut. Did the asked of him really well versus top opposition, really hard place to go and play anytime during the season, and capped off with a fabulous counter attacking goal.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ozzjim on August 09, 2015, 01:54:40 AM
A winger, right back and another central midfield player and we will have a squad that is able to really compete well I reckon. Veretout looked like he could become a really classy number 10 to me at times, but maybe match fitness short of the role he was fulfilling. He shields the ball well when he has it though and looked difficult to dispossess which is a good start. Gueye looks a brilliant find, the scout who identified him deserves credit for it. I thought Richards looked very good, and very scary in both senses at times, but then I think he will give us kittens and delight us in the same game quite often this season.

Amavi clearly has some class and I look forward to games when we are more of an attacking threat and find ways to get him crossing in to Gestede, who just looks a beast of a bloke really. A right sided version of Amavi would be bloody brilliant. And Guzan did well, just seems to have swallowed the Mark Bosnich kicking guide for goalkeepers.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: The Left Side on August 09, 2015, 03:50:10 AM
well done Villa
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 09, 2015, 05:18:17 AM
A winger, right back and another central midfield player and we will have a squad that is able to really compete well I reckon. Veretout looked like he could become a really classy number 10 to me at times, but maybe match fitness short of the role he was fulfilling. He shields the ball well when he has it though and looked difficult to dispossess which is a good start. Gueye looks a brilliant find, the scout who identified him deserves credit for it. I thought Richards looked very good, and very scary in both senses at times, but then I think he will give us kittens and delight us in the same game quite often this season.

Amavi clearly has some class and I look forward to games when we are more of an attacking threat and find ways to get him crossing in to Gestede, who just looks a beast of a bloke really. A right sided version of Amavi would be bloody brilliant. And Guzan did well, just seems to have swallowed the Mark Bosnich kicking guide for goalkeepers.

This. And well done, Villa. A much improved second half.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on August 09, 2015, 07:32:03 AM
First half I think Tim got it right, try to keep it tight, press them and afford them as little time on the ball as possible, did not work perfectly but well enough, second half try to be more expressive and then the final nail for them, bring on Ruddy, smash job done.
New team for us, will take a while, but alot of promising signs and as stated I do not think he is finished in the market yet, keep it going Villa and lets go and beat those Home County tossers on Friday night.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: nigel on August 09, 2015, 08:47:33 AM
First half I think Tim got it right, try to keep it tight, press them and afford them as little time on the ball as possible, did not work perfectly but well enough, second half try to be more expressive and then the final nail for them, bring on Ruddy, smash job done.
New team for us, will take a while, but alot of promising signs and as stated I do not think he is finished in the market yet, keep it going Villa and lets go and beat those Home County tossers on Friday night.

Fully agree.
There are many saying how poor we were in the first half, but, apart from the last 10 mins or so of the first half Tims plan was working. The last thing we needed to do was to make it an open game in the first half, we had to take the sting from their tail.
Opened up in the second half and Bournemouth began to tire.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: john e on August 09, 2015, 08:59:39 AM
Really bad in the first half, I was getting worried about the season ahead

Complete turnabout in the second straight away came out with more purpose and endevour

Micha Richards the MOTM for me although it was a close run thing with a couple of others

Really important win down there, I would have gladly taken the draw before the game and ripped your arm off for it at half time

Hopefully the more the team play together the better we will become

Sherwood and his back room staff all look like a comited team that know where they are going, which I believe is the most important point of all

Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: manic-road on August 09, 2015, 09:20:59 AM
You'll be hard pressed to beat Luna's debut. Did the asked of him really well versus top opposition, really hard place to go and play anytime during the season, and capped off with a fabulous counter attacking goal.

Apart from that first game for him I can't remember anything else he did well.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on August 09, 2015, 09:34:32 AM
First half I think Tim got it right, try to keep it tight, press them and afford them as little time on the ball as possible, did not work perfectly but well enough, second half try to be more expressive and then the final nail for them, bring on Ruddy, smash job done.
New team for us, will take a while, but alot of promising signs and as stated I do not think he is finished in the market yet, keep it going Villa and lets go and beat those Home County tossers on Friday night.

Fully agree.
There are many saying how poor we were in the first half, but, apart from the last 10 mins or so of the first half Tims plan was working. The last thing we needed to do was to make it an open game in the first half, we had to take the sting from their tail.
Opened up in the second half and Bournemouth began to tire.

100%
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: olaftab on August 09, 2015, 09:47:24 AM
Well I loved Gidman at right back and saw him in the Youth Cup, but left back wise I think Amavi can become a world class player. What did you think of  some of the other signings?
I have never been totally convinced by Richards in the past and whilst he did OK yesterday need more from him more consistently. He is not going to be a McGrath but now is the time to prove lot of people wrong.
Gestede is quite menacing and fairly mobile and agile for a big guy. Let's see how he deals with defenders when they start giving him special attention.
If I were to be picky I would sat Ayew was disappointing but this was his first game so let's see after 10. As I said him and Gestede upfront could be a good pairing.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 09, 2015, 09:47:50 AM
Where are Jack n Gill?

Stop your messing around....

Well we know that Jack fell down..😁

He needed love he didn't get from Gil
Where else can you get Raydio references than on here? Bravo Sir!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on August 09, 2015, 10:31:21 AM
Why don't Tony Parkes and Tim tell Brad to start playing as QB and Goalkeeper instead of punter/kicker and goalkeeper. He got big throws I prefer them as it is a lot more accurate.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Ian. on August 09, 2015, 10:33:38 AM
Well we scored from a corner which has been certainly lacking for years. It's another trick up the sleeve to have, especially in games when an opposing team is doing its best to close the game out.
With Rudy, Richards and Kozak if playing we'll have great presence in the box.

It was a cracking goal from Rudy, there was no stopping him getting his head on that ball.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 09, 2015, 10:40:33 AM
Shame Gueye didn't score right at the start of second half, didn't realise until I watched the highlights what a good build up that was.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 09, 2015, 10:48:11 AM
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

There was also a pissed up bloke who kept trying to wander onto the pitch in the first half. I thought the stewards dealt with it very well. They just eased him back into the stands
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: MonsXI on August 09, 2015, 10:59:55 AM
We took a while to settle into the game but were much better in the second half and I think deserved the 3 points.

Richards and Clark look good together and with Okore we have a nice selection headache when all 3 are fit.

Geestede great header but i loved the fact he won all his aerial battles but one. Early days but we could have a Carew esque hero on our hands.

Out of the three Jordans i think Amavi was the best, he really could turn into a world class left back. The other two looked off the pace but that is to be expected.

Gana Gueye whatever his name is! I really like him already it could quite possibly be Fabian who? Very shortly.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ozzjim on August 09, 2015, 11:06:00 AM
Veretout runs a bit like Zidane. Kind of awkward, almost laboured, but strong and willing.

I loved the shot showing Gestede getting the winning header, with the fact Richards was arriving like a train behind him and would have taken all before him into the net I reckon.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Dave P on August 09, 2015, 11:08:45 AM
Not a great first 45 mins but that was down to their tempo and enthusiasm more then anything we did. Overall, Bournemouth were all fart and no shit and it was a professional second half by ourselves.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Billy Walker on August 09, 2015, 11:16:48 AM
Two  players for me to keep an eye on: We will have to patient with young Jordan Ayew.  Give him time, let him bag his first goal and watch him become a player.  He strikes me as an emotional sort of character who needs an arm around him.

The other player is Veretout,  I genuinely think this lad is a class act.  I kept my eye on him yesterday and, although clearly not yet up to full match fitness, you could see he has that presence about him that quality players have.  Totally unruffable, great positioning, touch and presence.  Once he gets up to match speed and fitness he will be huge for us, I am sure of it.

Actually, I'm going to mention one more player who I though was brilliant for us yesterday - Gabby.  He's the glue in this club.  Watch how he celebrated with Gestede and the others yesterday and you can see how crucial he is to have around the team helping the new players come in, settle and bond with the rest of the lads.   He also put in a shift and a half.

Promising stuff, well done Villa.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 09, 2015, 11:21:45 AM
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

There was also a pissed up bloke who kept trying to wander onto the pitch in the first half. I thought the stewards dealt with it very well. They just eased him back into the stands
There's a vine on Twitter of this. If I knew how to id upload it,
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 09, 2015, 11:22:28 AM
Shame Gueye didn't score right at the start of second half, didn't realise until I watched the highlights what a good build up that was.
Should have scored, and credit Gabby for his assist
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: MattW on August 09, 2015, 12:15:59 PM
Shame Gueye didn't score right at the start of second half, didn't realise until I watched the highlights what a good build up that was.

Some nice touches from Ayew in that build-up. I only watched the Match of the Day highlights, after having read the mildly negative reviews on here, but he looked good in that little passage of play.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: dekko on August 09, 2015, 12:44:36 PM
Shame Gueye didn't score right at the start of second half, didn't realise until I watched the highlights what a good build up that was.

Some nice touches from Ayew in that build-up. I only watched the Match of the Day highlights, after having read the mildly negative reviews on here, but he looked good in that little passage of play.

He was never bad he just didn't really get into the game.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on August 09, 2015, 12:54:35 PM
Two  players for me to keep an eye on: We will have to patient with young Jordan Ayew.  Give him time, let him bag his first goal and watch him become a player.  He strikes me as an emotional sort of character who needs an arm around him.

The other player is Veretout,  I genuinely think this lad is a class act.  I kept my eye on him yesterday and, although clearly not yet up to full match fitness, you could see he has that presence about him that quality players have.  Totally unruffable, great positioning, touch and presence.  Once he gets up to match speed and fitness he will be huge for us, I am sure of it.

Actually, I'm going to mention one more player who I though was brilliant for us yesterday - Gabby.  He's the glue in this club.  Watch how he celebrated with Gestede and the others yesterday and you can see how crucial he is to have around the team helping the new players come in, settle and bond with the rest of the lads.   He also put in a shift and a half.

Promising stuff, well done Villa.

The words Gabby and crucial do not go together.....in any way!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on August 09, 2015, 01:20:37 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


It was a corner the bell end. He might be new to this top flight lark but he's going to find out a lot of teams try to score from corners and they're not something that only exists in the second division.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 09, 2015, 01:24:45 PM
I'm not sure it's really worth getting upset about. He was just saying that his team should've dealt with it better, which they should, not insulting Villa.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 09, 2015, 01:35:21 PM
Two  players for me to keep an eye on: We will have to patient with young Jordan Ayew.  Give him time, let him bag his first goal and watch him become a player.  He strikes me as an emotional sort of character who needs an arm around him.

The other player is Veretout,  I genuinely think this lad is a class act.  I kept my eye on him yesterday and, although clearly not yet up to full match fitness, you could see he has that presence about him that quality players have.  Totally unruffable, great positioning, touch and presence.  Once he gets up to match speed and fitness he will be huge for us, I am sure of it.

Actually, I'm going to mention one more player who I though was brilliant for us yesterday - Gabby.  He's the glue in this club.  Watch how he celebrated with Gestede and the others yesterday and you can see how crucial he is to have around the team helping the new players come in, settle and bond with the rest of the lads.   He also put in a shift and a half.

Promising stuff, well done Villa.

Interesting points Billy Walker.

Joey Barton on 5 Live was saying Ayew was a youth player at Marseille when he was there. He reckons he will do well and is a good finisher but was surprised he seemed to be playing on the right of a 5 man midfield. Reckons he is best in the middle, and said he will definitely score goals in England.

Re Veretout, I was chatting to a French mate on Friday night. He thinks Veretout will take a while to adapt to the pace of football here, and said he generally played well in the first half of the season at Nantes but struggled after the mid season break.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Billy Walker on August 09, 2015, 01:50:57 PM
Yes Pat, I think with time and a chance to adapt Veretout (and the others) will be able to offer us plenty.  Interesting to hear what your pal said. Maybe Veretout had half an idea that he would be leaving the club in the summer and that had an impact on his post mid-season break form?  He's still a young lad so I'm not going to expect him to be a world beater straight away but      to my (admittedly untrained) eye there's definitely a very good player in there.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on August 09, 2015, 01:57:28 PM
Not sure if its been mentioned, but other than the win, the next best thing for me was hearing Sherwood clearly yelling "Move the ball, move the ball, move the ball" during the second half, something that's looked alien too us for as far back as I can remember.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: tommy_boy on August 09, 2015, 02:06:28 PM
Guzan  -7- Made a great save, didn't have much else to do but in general he was solid. He could do better with his passes though.

Bacuna -6- Nice start for Bacuna. When Gradel came in I was a bit scared due to his defensive weaknesses but did ok.

Richards -7- He was terrific with his marking and tackling. Maybe he lacks a bit on aerial battles, anyway didn't cost the team.

Clark -7- He was aggresive just like his defensive partner. Looks better than ever.

Amavi -7- He showed real potential with his pace. Probably going to be a revelation. He could pass his defender whenever he wanted.

Westwood -7- Provided the assist. Was the same consistent good player we know.

Gueye -7- Very good debut. Didn't do anything great but was consistent with his passing defense and technique. Is going to be very important. The closest thing to fill the boots of last year's captain.

Veretout -6- Didn't show much probably not 100% match fit but ok for his debut. Good simple passing.

Ayew -6- Sloppy, needs time to show what he is capable of. He seems strong and fast.

Sinclair -6- He is a vital part of the team. Pace and skill down the flanks, didn't create much though.

Gabby -7- Always a threat for defenders with or without the ball. Could have done better with 1-2 chances he had.

Subs:
 
Gestede -8- Man of the match. Came in had a chance and then scored the winner. When Tim brought him in everyone could feel his presence.

Sanchez -7- The energy Villa needed in midfield. Was decent and helped the team get the clean sheet.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Ryu on August 09, 2015, 02:44:11 PM
Great to get off the mark with 3 points, and to see some promising performances from the new boys. 

To add my voice to the Gabby debate I think he was a different player once Gestede came on. When the ball was sticking up front and the shape if the front 3 was more settled he wad happy to gamble running on to things and stretched them a lot more.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Olof's Beard on August 09, 2015, 03:09:50 PM
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

Isn't that Drummond?
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 09, 2015, 03:21:26 PM
I think ayew' best position is central. It's just that the same applies to every other one of our attacking players except Sinclair!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LeeB on August 09, 2015, 03:47:14 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


It was a corner the bell end. He might be new to this top flight lark but he's going to find out a lot of teams try to score from corners and they're not something that only exists in the second division.

They might also be in for a shock when they don't anything near the number of penalties they did last season.

And Callum Wilson looks every inch the lower league centre forward.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 09, 2015, 03:56:35 PM
Howe - “It’s a textbook, lower league goal"

It was good enough to beat you.  Eddie.


It was a corner the bell end. He might be new to this top flight lark but he's going to find out a lot of teams try to score from corners and they're not something that only exists in the second division.

They might also be in for a shock when they don't anything near the number of penalties they did last season.

And Callum Wilson looks every inch the lower league centre forward.

another irony missed by Howe is that his lower league forward missed his chances, while our lower league forward buried his. He'll soon find that having the wrong lower league forward in your team will lead him back the lower leagues.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on August 09, 2015, 03:59:52 PM
http://outside90.com/what-we-learned-afc-bournemouth-0-aston-villa-1-220/
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Steve R on August 09, 2015, 04:25:43 PM
I can't help but think the 'we rode out luck first half' bit is being overplayed. Shearer credited Bournmeouth with 3 good chances, I made it just the two, both from players under pressure from defenders. When you restrict a team two two decent chances on their own patch you should expect to come away with something. Looking at the other games on MOTD, Spurs dominated the early proceedings at OT and had much better opportunities to take the lead. Swansea were all over Chelsea at times and even Sunderland had good chances to open the scoring before it started raining at the other end. No one seems too bothered about all that.

If there were lower league goals put in yesterday they came from the unfortunate Kyle Walker at OT and an even more outrageous OG for Chelsea's second.

It was always going to be a tough one and Bournemouth kept an excellent shape right through the game and played at full steam from the off. We dealt with it, came home with the points, and had several top notch individual performances to enjoy in the process.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Skerra on August 09, 2015, 04:34:59 PM
Any way lads, as we were 3rd in the table, not counting todays results, does anyone know who we have drawn in the Champions League!!!!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 09, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
Hopefully not Rapid fucking Vienna.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: avfcpg on August 09, 2015, 06:36:44 PM
Thought Sherwood got his tactics spot on. See them out for 30 mins (they were always gonna come straight at us full pelt) and then get at them a bit more second half. Rudy made a big difference and I thought Bmth tired second half. Nice footballing side but they seem to lack in the last third, but then again they are up against prem# opposition now.

Living in Bmth now I got a ticket for the home end (that wasn't easy when Rudy notched!) and interesting to hear the fans talking. One point was that they soon realised that they didn't have any time on the ball once it got into the last 3rd. They were closed down.
The other comment made me laugh second half "I thought these lot were meant to be shit, they are actually quite good and have played some good football"
Oh and a couple of "bloody hell he's quick" when Amavi and Gabby had a run...

And as for plastic fans..my god, they've been popping out the wordwork all over the place for the last 3 months....it's been sickening.
 
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Legion on August 09, 2015, 07:10:19 PM
Is there a Vine (or other) link to the goal anywhere? Risso's YT link has been deleted.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Legion on August 09, 2015, 07:12:46 PM
goal here  - http://streamable.com/dkp8

Got it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Godfrey Brian on August 09, 2015, 08:04:26 PM
The added bonus of that goal  was that Richards  was thundering in unmarked had the first header been missed.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Concrete John on August 09, 2015, 08:14:13 PM
Thought Sherwood got his tactics spot on. See them out for 30 mins (they were always gonna come straight at us full pelt) and then get at them a bit more second half.
 

Although it worked, I thought it was risky given we're effectively bedding in a new side ourselves and it almost backfired with those chances late in the first half.  If we were to try something similar in a few months once our new signings are settled I think we'll look much more comfortable playing that way.

Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: postal on August 09, 2015, 08:32:11 PM
Bit late  ::) with this, and nothing against Eddie Howe but, to me, he looks like a Thunderbird extra

And his comment about our goal being 'lower league', well he'd know.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on August 09, 2015, 08:34:33 PM
Bit late  ::) with this, and nothing against Eddie Howe but, to me, he looks like a Thunderbird extra

And his comment about our goal being 'lower league', well he'd know.

Who is it that Eddie Howe looks like.? Been driving me mad all day.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on August 09, 2015, 08:41:34 PM
Bit late  ::) with this, and nothing against Eddie Howe but, to me, he looks like a Thunderbird extra

And his comment about our goal being 'lower league', well he'd know.

Who is it that Eddie Howe looks like.? Been driving me mad all day.

Thunderbirds are go.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6d/5d/07/6d5d07cfb815bd81318c30091e74fc31.jpg)
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 09, 2015, 08:43:57 PM
Thought Sherwood got his tactics spot on. See them out for 30 mins (they were always gonna come straight at us full pelt) and then get at them a bit more second half.
 

Although it worked, I thought it was risky given we're effectively bedding in a new side ourselves and it almost backfired with those chances late in the first half.  If we were to try something similar in a few months once our new signings are settled I think we'll look much more comfortable playing that way.

I know what you're saying, but with a new team like we'd got, any set up would be a risk, and a less expansive game without committing too many men forwards is pretty much safety first.

God knows we've seen enough of it over the last 7-8 seasons to make you want to commit murder at the words "good counter attacking side."
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: postal on August 09, 2015, 08:44:09 PM
He has a plastic face that has limited facial expressions (imho) - thanks for the image above  :D
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 09, 2015, 08:58:00 PM
He has a plastic face that has limited facial expressions (imho) - thanks for the image above  :D
Bourntox
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on August 09, 2015, 08:59:21 PM
Bit late  ::) with this, and nothing against Eddie Howe but, to me, he looks like a Thunderbird extra

And his comment about our goal being 'lower league', well he'd know.

Who is it that Eddie Howe looks like.? Been driving me mad all day.

Thunderbirds are go.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6d/5d/07/6d5d07cfb815bd81318c30091e74fc31.jpg)

Ah..yes. A puppet dictator!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: villabear on August 09, 2015, 09:34:08 PM
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?


(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)


YouTube link


 ;D ;D ;D

There was also a pissed up bloke who kept trying to wander onto the pitch in the first half. I thought the stewards dealt with it very well. They just eased him back into the stands
There's a vine on Twitter of this. If I knew how to id upload it,
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

There was also a pissed up bloke who kept trying to wander onto the pitch in the first half. I thought the stewards dealt with it very well. They just eased him back into the stands
There's a vine on Twitter of this. If I knew how to id upload it,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=akPlkRoAutw
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: LukeJames on August 09, 2015, 09:35:44 PM
Bit late  ::) with this, and nothing against Eddie Howe but, to me, he looks like a Thunderbird extra

And his comment about our goal being 'lower league', well he'd know.

Who is it that Eddie Howe looks like.? Been driving me mad all day.
I've always thought he looks like a relative of Craig and Gary.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on August 09, 2015, 09:39:03 PM
Bit late  ::) with this, and nothing against Eddie Howe but, to me, he looks like a Thunderbird extra

And his comment about our goal being 'lower league', well he'd know.

Who is it that Eddie Howe looks like.? Been driving me mad all day.
I've always thought he looks like a relative of Craig and Gary.
Looks like Mark Wright to me. The reality tv chap.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Louzie0 on August 09, 2015, 09:42:32 PM
That was then.




This is now. Move on, villamates!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on August 09, 2015, 09:45:13 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=akPlkRoAutw

I love the way he struggles to lift his face from the turf and nobody is paying a blind bit if notice.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on August 09, 2015, 09:53:32 PM
It's a quality face plant
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 09, 2015, 10:05:47 PM
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?


(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)


YouTube link


 ;D ;D ;D

There was also a pissed up bloke who kept trying to wander onto the pitch in the first half. I thought the stewards dealt with it very well. They just eased him back into the stands
There's a vine on Twitter of this. If I knew how to id upload it,
Did anyone see the fan go arse over tit during the Gestede goal celebrations?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/2u601vm.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

There was also a pissed up bloke who kept trying to wander onto the pitch in the first half. I thought the stewards dealt with it very well. They just eased him back into the stands
There's a vine on Twitter of this. If I knew how to id upload it,

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=akPlkRoAutw

This bloke suddenly appeared next to me on Row H after half time and was really struggling to stand up...kept leaning on me for support which I gladly gave and I tried to engage in conversation...I honestly think he couldn't see me even though he was 6 inches away.
Wondered where he'd got to!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: damon loves JT on August 09, 2015, 10:07:21 PM
To paraphrase Villa fan Lee Child, he's gone down  like somebody who's been bet a million pounds  that he can't make a hole in the ground with his face
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on August 10, 2015, 08:18:51 AM
Jeez- that's embarrassing.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 10, 2015, 08:54:03 AM
Serves them right for singing ''That's why you're going down" when our player missed a shot with the scores level at 0-0  :D
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on August 10, 2015, 10:10:21 AM
We clearly stepped up in the second half and frankly the result is all important

We did apparently only make five passes into their box all game, two successful

Getting grealish, Gil, veretout fit and up to speed should help

I know Ayew wasn't great but he did play a good part in our best move of the match
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: KRS on August 10, 2015, 12:54:36 PM
Brilliant result. Went away for the weekend and just caught the results coming through at the final whistle in a bar...then enjoyed the most amazing view with a chilled pint of liquid gold and a big smile on my face! Fantastic result, brilliant day.

What are all the comments about BBC about?

(http://i61.tinypic.com/14jqj3d.jpg)
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on August 10, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
Perfect!
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 10, 2015, 12:59:31 PM
Loved hearing "Are you Walsall in disguise?"

Well-sung away support.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: robbo1874 on August 10, 2015, 01:08:47 PM
Have to say I thought we'd get a point at best out of this match. Great feeling getting a win there. I think we'll do well this season.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: dave shelley on August 10, 2015, 01:12:08 PM
I wonder if they still do that Third Eye thing on Soccer Saturday or whatever it's called on Sky?  If they do then that's nailed on to be featured.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on August 10, 2015, 01:12:49 PM
Brilliant result. Went away for the weekend and just caught the results coming through at the final whistle in a bar...then enjoyed the most amazing view with a chilled pint of liquid gold and a big smile on my face! Fantastic result, brilliant day.

What are all the comments about BBC about?




(http://i61.tinypic.com/14jqj3d.jpg)



Rhossili? Wonderful
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Dave on August 10, 2015, 02:14:29 PM
From F365's Winners & Losers section:

Quote
Tim Sherwood
Honestly, who amongst you assumed that Tim Sherwood would fill his Villa side with Tottenham reserves and 'good lads' from the middle reaches of the Premier League? That he has instead bought in bulk from France like an Englishman preparing for a very boozy party is both refreshing and brave. If this goes right, all vestiges of the Tactics Tim persona can be discarded. If this goes wrong, he may never be seen in the Premier League again.

Picking five new signings on the opening day of the season was a decision that put the pressure firmly on his own head, and the decision was largely vindicated - Jordan Ayew was anonymous and Jordan Veretout was clearly not match-fit, but Idrissa Gueye showed promise and Micah Richards looked solid enough in one game to immediately make himself roughly the fifth-best English centre-half in the Premier League (the competition is not great). As for Jordan Amavi, he is already a hero to a Villa faithful who have been craving a decent left-back after suffering Aly Cissokho, Kieran Richardson and various out-of-position right-backs last season.

Villa did not play particularly well in Bournemouth but Sherwood certainly deserves credit for at least attempting to move Villa out of their depressing rut of relegation campaigns. And we do bloody love a good header so thank you, Tim, for Rudy Gestede. Emmanuel Adabeyor's refusal to move to the Midlands might well become the day that neutrals started to warm a little to Villa again. It's been a while.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on August 10, 2015, 02:32:59 PM
That's a pretty accurate summary of the new players' opening day performances
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: KRS on August 10, 2015, 02:48:41 PM
Brilliant result. Went away for the weekend and just caught the results coming through at the final whistle in a bar...then enjoyed the most amazing view with a chilled pint of liquid gold and a big smile on my face! Fantastic result, brilliant day.

What are all the comments about BBC about?




(http://i61.tinypic.com/14jqj3d.jpg)



Rhossili? Wonderful
Yep first time I've been and I can't recommend Rhossili highly enough...absolutely breathtaking views from the Worms Head Hotel bar. Also found Three Cliffs Bay which is also beautiful if you like relatively quiet beaches.
Title: Re: Plucky little AFC Bournemouth vs nasty Aston Villa bullies post match thread
Post by: Martyn Smith on August 10, 2015, 07:21:25 PM
From F365's Winners & Losers section:

Quote
Tim Sherwood
Honestly, who amongst you assumed that Tim Sherwood would fill his Villa side with Tottenham reserves and 'good lads' from the middle reaches of the Premier League? That he has instead bought in bulk from France like an Englishman preparing for a very boozy party is both refreshing and brave. If this goes right, all vestiges of the Tactics Tim persona can be discarded. If this goes wrong, he may never be seen in the Premier League again.

Picking five new signings on the opening day of the season was a decision that put the pressure firmly on his own head, and the decision was largely vindicated - Jordan Ayew was anonymous and Jordan Veretout was clearly not match-fit, but Idrissa Gueye showed promise and Micah Richards looked solid enough in one game to immediately make himself roughly the fifth-best English centre-half in the Premier League (the competition is not great). As for Jordan Amavi, he is already a hero to a Villa faithful who have been craving a decent left-back after suffering Aly Cissokho, Kieran Richardson and various out-of-position right-backs last season.

Villa did not play particularly well in Bournemouth but Sherwood certainly deserves credit for at least attempting to move Villa out of their depressing rut of relegation campaigns. And we do bloody love a good header so thank you, Tim, for Rudy Gestede. Emmanuel Adabeyor's refusal to move to the Midlands might well become the day that neutrals started to warm a little to Villa again. It's been a while.

Couldn't give a dog's left tit whether neutrals warm to us or not.
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