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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on February 24, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
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Saturday 28.2.15 3pm KO
0-2 away win.
Benteke 23
Delph 48
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Straightforward home win.
2-0
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Newcastle 1-2 Aston Villa (Benteke, Gil)
Attendance 48,000
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I think we could nick this one. 0-1 (Clark)
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1-1
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Gotta go for it, 1-2 for the Villa
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Straightforward home win.
2-0
Got to agree sadly.
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Fuck it. Villa win 4-0.
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Just jam a win please, Villa.
Cheers.
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We've only won there twice in the PL era. The comedy sending off of Mary Poppins with Ian Taylor's equally funny reaction and the Bowyer/Dyer fight game.
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I'm going to this! Despite my pessimism this season I think we get a draw at least.
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Draw 1-1 Gil 68min
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Horrendous record here. No matter how crap Newcastle are, they usually do us convincingly at St James'.
Burnley would draw 3-3, Leicester would score at least two, we'll be as meek and aimless as ever. Unless Timothy and his players have a February epiphany.
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Horrendous record here. No matter how crap Newcastle are, they usually do us convincingly at St James'.
Burnley would draw 3-3, Leicester would score at least two, we'll be as meek and aimless as ever. Unless Timothy and his players have a February epiphany.
Leicester lost there 1-0.
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Just for this game I would play N'Zogbia at left back and tell him to attack at his pleasure. He has previous at left back for Newcastle. Assuming
he is fit of course and hasn't gone out on loan.
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Although we're not quite at last chance saloon or needing the 3 points desperately we're getting very close. A minimum of 1 point is required.
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They still are very bitter about this..
They'll be even more bitter when we beat them 2-0 on Saturday.
To those going up for the game, please be aware that the tossers from EDL and German racist scum Pegida are holding a rally in the Bigg Market and an anti-fascist protest at the Gallowgate.
Credit and respect to the Geordies, they've set up a group called NUFC Fans United with the slogan, “Remember we are black and white; we are united.”
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We will win 2-1. Two first half goals, a few missed chances second half as we ship a late one to make us nervous.
3 points and right up the arse of the Albion.
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Bloody hell sounds like Newcastle should be a barrel of laughs Saturday then
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Horrendous record here. No matter how crap Newcastle are, they usually do us convincingly at St James'.
Burnley would draw 3-3, Leicester would score at least two, we'll be as meek and aimless as ever. Unless Timothy and his players have a February epiphany.
Leicester lost there 1-0.
Ahem, well yes, but they gave it a go and would certainly go again.
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I've given up hope of ever winning again.
2-0 home win.
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No side in the top 30 places of English football should be losing to Newcastle this weekend.
But can't have any faith in our lads after their efforts all season but particularly Hull and Stoke. Unless tactics Tim has been able to perform the necessary exorcism on the training ground this week, if they get the first goal we will lose
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Id like to see -
---------- given (c) -----------
Okore. Clark. Senderos. Hutton
----- Westwood ----Delph -------
-----------cleverly-----------------
Gil -------------------------Sinclair
-------------Weimann -------------
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2-0 home win one a penalty 91st minute
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Id like to see -
---------- given (c) -----------
Okore. Clark. Senderos. Hutton
----- Westwood ----Delph -------
-----------cleverly-----------------
Gil -------------------------Sinclair
-------------Weimann -------------
Okore right back and hutton left back? And Senderos who hasn't played for 3 months?
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Them 1 Us 0
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Id like to see -
---------- given (c) -----------
Okore. Clark. Senderos. Hutton
----- Westwood ----Delph -------
-----------cleverly-----------------
Gil -------------------------Sinclair
-------------Weimann -------------
Okore right back and hutton left back? And Senderos who hasn't played for 3 months?
Who would you play ?
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Id like to see -
---------- given (c) -----------
Okore. Clark. Senderos. Hutton
----- Westwood ----Delph -------
-----------cleverly-----------------
Gil -------------------------Sinclair
-------------Weimann -------------
Okore right back and hutton left back? And Senderos who hasn't played for 3 months?
Who would you play ?
I haven't really thought about it, but I wouldn't play Okore at right back and Hutton on the left.
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Id like to see -
---------- given (c) -----------
Okore. Clark. Senderos. Hutton
----- Westwood ----Delph -------
-----------cleverly-----------------
Gil -------------------------Sinclair
-------------Weimann -------------
Okore right back and hutton left back? And Senderos who hasn't played for 3 months?
Who would you play ?
The right footed right back Hutton at right back and the left footed left back Cissokho at left back. Clark and Okore at centre back. Guzan in goal. Defence isn't our problem, it's the other 6 we need to worry about!
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Cissoko is an absolute car crash. I wouldn't be upset if he never played for us again.
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I think he's a perfectly average ok left back. He most definitely isn't a left wing-back.
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I think he's a perfectly average ok left back. He most definitely isn't a left wing-back.
Agreed.
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Bloody hell sounds like Newcastle should be a barrel of laughs Saturday then
I can't wait now!
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Win please Villa.
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I'm with Legion on this one, two nil villa win.
I'm actually off up to see this one with some lads from work at the expense of a supplier we use at work from the Newcastle area so can't wait.
Anyone recommend a good bar for afterwards? Sorted pre match as we are having a hospitality package at the ground so guess that means beers and a meal/food of some sorts.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
I doubt they'll close every bar in town.
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Sounds ominous then, although the hotel we are staying in looks pretty decent so may just head back there for a few be vies, be nice to sample a bit of proper Geordie nightlife though.
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I wouldn't be averse to Bacuna playing. He carries a goal threat, which the rest of our midfield don't. He scored five last year as a full back. Maybe him, Westwood and Delph in the midfield, with Gil close to Benteke and Sinclair floating on the flanks. It can become 433 when we defend, but Bacuna has licence to push on.
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I'd play
(http://i58.tinypic.com/nbbreu.jpg)
I do not want to see Gil playing as deep as the last game, we have others who can do the donkey work.
Guzan has been poor lately add, Delph, Gabby, Weimann, Sanchez to the heap list, none of them should start. We have to continue with Benteke, we have no choice.
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I quite like the look of that line-up, but would still have Guzan over Given.
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I quite like the look of that line-up, but would still have Guzan over Given.
Me too.
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Id like to see -
---------- given (c) -----------
Okore. Clark. Senderos. Hutton
----- Westwood ----Delph -------
-----------cleverly-----------------
Gil -------------------------Sinclair
-------------Weimann -------------
Okore right back and hutton left back? And Senderos who hasn't played for 3 months?
And we thought Lambert was clueless :-D
(In jest, no offence meant silhill)
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
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I'd play
(http://i58.tinypic.com/nbbreu.jpg)
I do not want to see Gil playing as deep as the last game, we have others who can do the donkey work.
Guzan has been poor lately add, Delph, Gabby, Weimann, Sanchez to the heap list, none of them should start. We have to continue with Benteke, we have no choice.
Agree with the formation, but would make a couple of changes to that team:
Guzan for Given
Clark at CB and Richardson at LB if fit
Delph for Westwood
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Benteke
Sinclair Gil
Delph(c)
Cleverley
Westwood
Cissoko Hutton
Clark Okore
Guzan
Subs
Given
Lowton
Gabby
Sanchez
Senderos
Grealish
Bacuna
Bacuna and possibly gabby coming on for Gil and Sinclair if they begin to fade.
Keep our shape at the back, give Gil and Sinclair freedom to run at the newcastle defence. Benteke lead the line, get in amoungst their back 4, no dropping deep to collect, into chest or feet and look to feed the widemen then LOOK for the return ball!!
Westwood break it up and pass it on to Delph or Cleverley. Delph & Cleverley if one goes forward the other stays back and stays open for the backwards pass if needed.
If you pass the ball short, MOVE and be available for the return pass.
Simple.
1-3 Sinclair, Benteke, Westwood
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I'd play
(http://i58.tinypic.com/nbbreu.jpg)
I do not want to see Gil playing as deep as the last game, we have others who can do the donkey work.
Guzan has been poor lately add, Delph, Gabby, Weimann, Sanchez to the heap list, none of them should start. We have to continue with Benteke, we have no choice.
Agree with the formation, but would make a couple of changes to that team:
Guzan for Given
Clark at CB and Richardson at LB if fit
Delph for Westwood
Richardson has no return date.
Delph has been awful for the last three games, some time on the bench is needed.
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Sadly yet another nail in the coffin. 3-0 defeat and Sherwood to understand he's bitten off way more than he can chew
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Guzan
Cissokho (Unless Richardson is fit)
Clark
Okore
Hutton
Delph
Westwood
Bacuna
Gil
Sinclair
Benteke.
4-3-2-1
1-1
Benteke to produce a moment from nothing (I hope).
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
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I admit Senderos suprised me i thought he was another lemon but he was really solid for us at the back, he is just the type we need in at the moment, probably a couple of weeks away after so long out.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Yellow card for saying the "L" word twice. Please don't ever say it again.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Dudley has one High Street and that's about it, Newcastle is a much bigger city and the Police should be able to keep the EDL pretty well coralled in one area without causing too much disruption to the rest of the city.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Dudley has one High Street and that's about it, Newcastle is a much bigger city and the Police should be able to keep the EDL pretty well coralled in one area without causing too much disruption to the rest of the city.
I think you are flattering Dudley to suggest it even has something as grandiose as a High Street these days!
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Only the second away game I'll have done so far this season. Hull was the first one so let's hope I'm not bad luck...
Regardless, this is day 1 of one of the biggest 7 days in recent history.
- 2 can't-lose games
- 2 Midlands Derbies
- FA Cup Quarter Final at home
Knowing Villa we could just as easily win all 3 or lose all 3.
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I wonder if Sherwood realizes now that Lowton is the best crosser of a ball at the club and give him a start on Saturday wide midfield.
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Guzan
Cissokho (Unless Richardson is fit)
Clark
Okore
Hutton
Delph
Westwood
Bacuna
Gil
Sinclair
Benteke.
4-3-2-1
1-1
Benteke to produce a moment from nothing (I hope).
I agree with this lineup.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Does Birmingham go on "lockdown" when the twats visit? Or is the reality that apart from a small section of Broad Street you don't even know they are in town?
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1-1
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Does Birmingham go on "lockdown" when the twats visit? Or is the reality that apart from a small section of Broad Street you don't even know they are in town?
No idea I avoid the place . Looks like the March is 9am so will be over before the football traffic
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I wonder if Sherwood realizes now that Lowton is the best crosser of a ball at the club and give him a start on Saturday wide midfield.
you are Matt Lowton and I claim my fiver...:)
UTV
the Doc
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3-0 Villa; 2 of their players to get sent off for fighting each other and another to be sent off for handling it off the line.
Actually, we're always shite against Newcastle.
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Sadly yet another nail in the coffin. 3-0 defeat and Sherwood to understand he's bitten off way more than he can chew
Have you seen Newcastle recently? They're hardly flying, according to their fans a fluke win against Hull, they're dragging their sorry corpse over the line in the knowledge that they've probably just got enough points to stay up. The season can't end soon enough for them. They've got a temp manager whose side play crap football, don't know where the goal is and their fans are pretty resigned to it all. Sound familiar?
They have like Stoke a dodgy defence that won't enjoy us running at them as let's hope Sherwood doesn't fuck up, makes sure we have a solid midfield and gets us using the ball quickly without having to hoof it. Get us playing and the points are there to bring home.
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Don't think we've scored away since Palace - i'm going for a draw
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Does Birmingham go on "lockdown" when the twats visit? Or is the reality that apart from a small section of Broad Street you don't even know they are in town?
No idea I avoid the place . Looks like the March is 9am so will be over before the football traffic
The clue is the second sentence.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Dudley has one High Street and that's about it, Newcastle is a much bigger city and the Police should be able to keep the EDL pretty well coralled in one area without causing too much disruption to the rest of the city.
I think you are flattering Dudley to suggest it even has something as grandiose as a High Street these days!
Mind you, it has got a castle.
And a zoo.
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Don't think we've scored away since Palace - i'm going for a draw
We haven't. Although, despite that game being nearly 3 months ago we've only played 5 away games since then. In that period we've played 10 at home.
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I wonder if Sherwood realizes now that Lowton is the best crosser of a ball at the club and give him a start on Saturday wide midfield.
you are Matt Lowton and I claim my fiver...:)
UTV
the Doc
Who would you say is a better crosser then?
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I wonder if Sherwood realizes now that Lowton is the best crosser of a ball at the club and give him a start on Saturday wide midfield.
you are Matt Lowton and I claim my fiver...:)
UTV
the Doc
Who would you say is a better crosser then?
maybe Bacuna or Gil...
Matt just needs to get in the squad first and then with a bit of luck he could show what he can do.
UTV
the Doc
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Because we have such a terrible record at St James and because are so bad away from home at the moment anyway then I think Newcastle will win. You have to also consider that they are going to be fired up for a response after last week. On the other hand Sherwood's team talk should be easy, something a long the lines of "Newcastle are not out of this yet, and today is a chance not only to get some crucial points for us, but to also drag another team into the scrap.
I'll go for a 2-0 home win, but hope that they surprise me.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Dudley has one High Street and that's about it, Newcastle is a much bigger city and the Police should be able to keep the EDL pretty well coralled in one area without causing too much disruption to the rest of the city.
I think you are flattering Dudley to suggest it even has something as grandiose as a High Street these days!
Mind you, it has got a castle.
And a zoo.
I've been to cemeteries with more life than Dudley Zoo. And as for Dudley Ruin...
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2-0 to them.
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I wonder if Sherwood realizes now that Lowton is the best crosser of a ball at the club and give him a start on Saturday wide midfield.
you are Matt Lowton and I claim my fiver...:)
UTV
the Doc
Who would you say is a better crosser then?
maybe Bacuna or Gil...
Matt just needs to get in the squad first and then with a bit of luck he could show what he can do.
UTV
the Doc
Exactly maybe, I am a season ticket holder and the amount of decent crosses I've seen all season you could count on the fingers of one hand. Admittedly I'm only talking a couple of games, but in them he has impressed me the most in this area. He is not a defender, so it would be a wide right midfield.
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Sounds like Newcastle will be on lockdown with the EDL in town so bars may be shut
"Lockdown"? What on earth are you talking about, man?
Well Dudley was on lockdown when the EDL pitched up the other week.
Perhaps the rozzers up there will be more laid back ?
Dudley has one High Street and that's about it, Newcastle is a much bigger city and the Police should be able to keep the EDL pretty well coralled in one area without causing too much disruption to the rest of the city.
I think you are flattering Dudley to suggest it even has something as grandiose as a High Street these days!
Mind you, it has got a castle.
And a zoo.
Not to mention an excellent Salvation Army Charity shop with a startling array of vinyl records!
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I wonder if Sherwood realizes now that Lowton is the best crosser of a ball at the club and give him a start on Saturday wide midfield.
you are Matt Lowton and I claim my fiver...:)
UTV
the Doc
Who would you say is a better crosser then?
Trouble is he doesn't have any pace, or tricks to get the space to whip the crosses in. Also last season and this season in the few games he'd played, his crossing hasn't matched his first season.
Bacuna and Gil are both good crossers and have the pace and/or skill to get more balls in.
Lowton, and I believe Sherwood will suss this quickly, is nowhere near good enough at this level. He's powder puff. Too lightweight and a liability defensively.
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Yea Lowton is toilet.
Is the Villa site down for anyone else?
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Newcastle team full of players who don't want to been in Newcastle, erratic form and realistically nothing to play for.
Newcastle 4 Villa 1
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Would love even a draw just to stop this loosing run,sadly I can't see it 2-0 them.
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Yea Lowton is toilet.
Is the Villa site down for anyone else?
Yep.
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Sadly yet another nail in the coffin. 3-0 defeat and Sherwood to understand he's bitten off way more than he can chew
Have you seen Newcastle recently? They're hardly flying, according to their fans a fluke win against Hull, they're dragging their sorry corpse over the line in the knowledge that they've probably just got enough points to stay up. The season can't end soon enough for them. They've got a temp manager whose side play crap football, don't know where the goal is and their fans are pretty resigned to it all. Sound familiar?
They have like Stoke a dodgy defence that won't enjoy us running at them as let's hope Sherwood doesn't fuck up, makes sure we have a solid midfield and gets us using the ball quickly without having to hoof it. Get us playing and the points are there to bring home.
Surefire win for Newcastle in other words....
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http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/02/rallying-call-revenge-v-aston-villa/?
This was inevitable, and who can hold it against them? A lot of Villa fans gloated on that day and it always comes back to bite you on the arse.
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http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/02/rallying-call-revenge-v-aston-villa/?
This was inevitable, and who can hold it against them? A lot of Villa fans gloated on that day and it always comes back to bite you on the arse.
I don't blame them for laughing at us, but they do seem very precious about it.
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Whoever they we're playing that day would have pissed their pants, it just happened to be us.
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I think all teams will be out to funeral us. We are a big name that your average neutral would like to see drop.
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Revenge. I can understand that, because they played all 38 games against us.
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http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/02/rallying-call-revenge-v-aston-villa/?
This was inevitable, and who can hold it against them? A lot of Villa fans gloated on that day and it always comes back to bite you on the arse.
They'll probably be in full voice then...like they were at their place last season...only time we knew they were there was when they scored in the 94th minute.
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http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/02/rallying-call-revenge-v-aston-villa/?
This was inevitable, and who can hold it against them? A lot of Villa fans gloated on that day and it always comes back to bite you on the arse.
They'll probably be in full voice then...like they were at their place last season...only time we knew they were there was when they scored in the 94th minute.
They'll be so up for it, and will love it, LOVE IT, if they beat us and hammer one nail in the coffin. So I think we can safely go and put a bet on a Villa win now.
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Id like to see Sherwood get all di Canio and do a sliding knee celebration in his best suit in front of the bestest fans in the world .
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They didn't get it then, and they don't get it now. All that Geordie Nation, bestest fans, everyone's second favourite club stuff had pissed everyone else off. Every other club would have behaved exactly the same; we were just the lucky ones that could do it.
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A bit like Smethwick and Bradford at the moment...they just assume that everybody thinks they're great and the only "proper" fans in the world. Because.....?
Twats!
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They didn't get it then, and they don't get it now. All that Geordie Nation, bestest fans, everyone's second favourite club stuff had pissed everyone else off. Every other club would have behaved exactly the same; we were just the lucky ones that could do it.
I agree, it will still smart if they beat us though.
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A bit like Smethwick and Bradford at the moment...they just assume that everybody thinks they're great and the only "proper" fans in the world. Because.....?
Twats!
The difference is that nobody really gives a bugger about West Barca and Bradford whereas we had the Geordie Bollocks rammed down our throats by the media.
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To hear some of them go on about it you'd think the entirety of Villa Park was awash with piss-taking banners (there were two from what I recall), endless chants about them getting relegated and the ritual killing of magpies on the pitch.
I think they only like other sets of fans if they respond with extreme fawning when Newcastle United (last trophy win* - 1969 in a competition that no longer exists) roll into town.
*Do they count the Intertoto win in 2006? That would be interesting.
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Their obsession with us is very amusing. As Dave says, they are too fucking thick to work why they were mocked, and that nearly every club would have done it to the twats. Remember the FB group or page, set up by a Sunderland fan I think, that had fans of a shit load of clubs willing us to send them down.
And like fuck was it orchestrated, it was very very funny though seeing how many of us recognised them for the twats they are. A bit like when Sunderland took the piss out of Manure on the final day with the Poznan a couple of years ago.
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I wonder if it came down to us or Sunderland going what they'd prefer
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To hear some of them go on about it you'd think the entirety of Villa Park was awash with piss-taking banners (there were two from what I recall), endless chants about them getting relegated and the ritual killing of magpies on the pitch.
I think they only like other sets of fans if they respond with extreme fawning when Newcastle United (last trophy win* - 1969 in a competition that no longer exists) roll into town.
*Do they count the Intertoto win in 2006? That would be interesting.
We've won the FA Cup since they last won a domestic trophy. That's how shit they are.
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A bit like Smethwick and Bradford at the moment...they just assume that everybody thinks they're great and the only "proper" fans in the world. Because.....?
Twats!
The difference is that nobody really gives a bugger about West Barca and Bradford whereas we had the Geordie Bollocks rammed down our throats by the media.
see also: Liverpool.
The Kop...
You'll Never Walk...
No better sight or sound in football...
They know their football in this part of the world...
Fantastic history of this great club...
...in the voice of almost any current commentator.
Twats!
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I wonder if it came down to us or Sunderland going what they'd prefer
Controversial. My guess is they would choose the Makems ?
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I wonder if it came down to us or Sunderland going what they'd prefer
Controversial. My guess is they would choose the Makems ?
Without a doubt.
They'd love it.
Wouldn't we if it was Small Heath?
Oh yeah......
:D :D :D
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To hear some of them go on about it you'd think the entirety of Villa Park was awash with piss-taking banners (there were two from what I recall), endless chants about them getting relegated and the ritual killing of magpies on the pitch.
I think they only like other sets of fans if they respond with extreme fawning when Newcastle United (last trophy win* - 1969 in a competition that no longer exists) roll into town.
*Do they count the Intertoto win in 2006? That would be interesting.
We've won the FA Cup since they last won a domestic trophy. That's how shit they are.
You sure?
Edit: Domestic 1955
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Would be happy with a clean sheet and nil nil. Can then kick off a run with a win against the albion
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Would be happy with a clean sheet and nil nil. Can then kick off a run with a win against the albion
A Draw would be something to build on
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They didn't get it then, and they don't get it now. All that Geordie Nation, bestest fans, everyone's second favourite club stuff had pissed everyone else off. Every other club would have behaved exactly the same; we were just the lucky ones that could do it.
Oh, I dunno. Others might well have tried, but we did it magnificently. The
"Ant or Dec", so simple, simplistic, obvious in hindsight, yet I don't reckon any other lot would've come up with it. A day that summed up a fundamental aspect of English football supporting; getting one's 'ating of the other 91 in.
Fuck 'em. 1-0 us.
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Newcastle are atrocious. Hopeless and on their arse.
3-0 home win
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Newcastle are atrocious. Hopeless and on their arse.
3-0 home win
It is true that many of our better results come from teams who are overconfident.
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2 - 1. Benteke with them both.
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Newcastle are atrocious. Hopeless and on their arse.
3-0 home win
And we`re not???....
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Newcastle are atrocious. Hopeless and on their arse.
3-0 home win
And we`re not???....
We're atrociouser
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Newcastle are atrocious. Hopeless and on their arse.
3-0 home win
And we`re not???....
We're atrociouser
we are the atrociousist
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Newcastle United 0-3 Aston Villa.
Gil, Clark and Benteke.
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My exes dad was a Newcastle fan. Complete, boring Kevin Keegan sucking knobsack when it came to talking about football. He'd bore on and on about attendances, the first thing he'd look at in the papers was who got what attendance for the weekend and only after that he'd look at the results.
Hate geordies and their self created myths and hope we fucking wreck them and leave them fighting each other and pretending they've been shot dead by shots again.
Come on Villa boys.
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Newcastle are atrocious. Hopeless and on their arse.
3-0 home win
And we`re not???....
We're atrociouser
we are the atrociousist
We are villainous!
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Hate geordies and their self created myths and hope we fucking wreck them and leave them fighting each other and pretending they've been shot dead by shots again.
I don't, I've got loads of mates who are Geordies and I bloody loved my time living up there and always enjoy returning. I did find it funny as fuck though when we helped send them down.
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I wonder if they're over it yet.
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If I remember correctly their fans sang throughout the video tribute to former Villa players who had passed away prior to the game which caused quite a bit of anger and only stoked up the atmosphere further. I notice no reference is ever made to that when they claim to be so shocked at the glee when relegation was confirmed.
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For those who are going up and haven't been before, please allow yourself a good two hours to climb those bastard stairs to your seat.
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I hope we are able to ram some of this underlying anger back down their fat, brown ale laden throats . Thus dragging them into the mire .
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Don`t hate `em, actually quite like `em, they love their team same as we love ours. didnt take any personal pleasure when they went down at VP, but on the day you milk the situation, it would be the same if we were on the wrong end of it. and thus will it ever be.
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For those who are going up and haven't been before, please allow yourself a good two hours to climb those bastard stairs to your seat.
Ropes, crampons, ice-axe and inhaler already packed!
And binoculars...we're so high the pitch seems to be miles away!
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We just need to win this game.
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4519344,00.html
The injury news!
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I wonder if they're over it yet.
They haven't even got over Keegans meltdown yet. The Villa piss taking is still too raw for them, many Geordie children are sent to bed and told to be good or the Villa will come and relegate them.
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We've only won there twice in the PL era. The comedy sending off of Mary Poppins with Ian Taylor's equally funny reaction and the Bowyer/Dyer fight game.
first read and cannot disagree. add to the fact that their first ever PL away win was at VP. gen worried about this fixture hope to god for a classic Villa moment i.e. we kick SB ass when we up against it.
so: "Come On You VILLAAAA!"
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We've only won there twice in the PL era. The comedy sending off of Mary Poppins with Ian Taylor's equally funny reaction and the Bowyer/Dyer fight game.
What I remember most about the surreal altercation with fisticuffs between Racist Rat Boy and Dopey Dyer was Gaz Bazz breaking it up and then saying after the match "Nobody wants to see that".
(http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article4474066.ece/alternates/s615/Lee-Bowyer-and-Kieron-Dyer.jpg)
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Jesus Christ was that funny.
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Beeb saying Gutierrez is liekly to be back after recovery from cancer. Without sounding trying to sound heartless, whilst I am please for the fella that he has recovered and is well enough to play again, we could do without the outpouring of compassion and supprt that will dobbtless happen, inspiring them to victory.
That said, there is more to life than football.
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So vlaar Richardson baker and Senderos definitely out and possibly Hutton and cissoko .
Would go - Lowton Clark Okore Stevens
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So vlaar Richardson baker and Senderos definitely out and possibly Hutton and cissoko .
Would go - Lowton Clark Okore Stevens
Baker isn't out. I reckon one of Hutton or Cissokho will make it at least.
Lowton Okore Clark Cissokho/Hutton (if one makes it)
If not:
Lowton Okore Baker Clark
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I wouldn't want Stevens anywhere near the team.
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I wouldn't want Stevens anywhere near the team.
To be fair he's not actually looked as bad as Bennett and Luna have at times.
But granted, I still wouldn't be very confident with him in the side.
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Stevens is still at Doncaster isn't he?
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Didn't realise baker was back
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Stevens is still at Doncaster isn't he?
I lose track of all the duds we've currently got shipped out.
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Stevens is still at Doncaster isn't he?
Yep and can't be recalled as it's season long I think.
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Can we recall Bennett
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Can we recall Bennett
Season long as well.
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Let's hope Hutton makes it then .
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At least we can stick Bacuna in at RB, it's going to be a real bodge job at LB if Sisko is out.
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Delph can play LB.
Or perhaps cleverly but I'd rather not go down that route .
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I just sicked up a little at the thought of Delph or Cleverley at LB.
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I just sicked up a little at the thought of Delph or Cleverley at LB.
Delph played there one time and had a superb game .
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I just sicked up a little at the thought of Delph or Cleverley at LB.
Delph played there one time and had a superb game .
Chris Herd had a blinder once at fullback, Wolves?, doesn't mean I want him there again. Plus our MF is so shit taking Delph out weakens us in 2 positions.
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Sherwood has had the U21's training beside the first team and he's been keeping a close eye. Any left backs that might catch his eye?
If Baker is back we can always shift Clark to LB.
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There's only one thing for it. We'll have to recall Tony Moon.
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Actually herd is an option at LB or is he out on loan somewhere
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Has Donacien got a left foot ?
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Actually herd is an option at LB or is he out on loan somewhere
Injured for rest of the season.
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Actually herd is an option at LB or is he out on loan somewhere
Wigan on loan. Can't be recalled.
Edit: And injured.
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Has Donacien got a left foot ?
Yes, and a right one.
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Zogbia has played left back.
(Ducks and runs for cover).
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I'm going up on one of the club coaches. Does anyone have any idea if the police will just shepherd us straight into the ground, or will we be able to have a wander around Newcastle? Hoping to meet a mate up there.
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I'm going up on one of the club coaches. Does anyone have any idea if the police will just shepherd us straight into the ground, or will we be able to have a wander around Newcastle? Hoping to meet a mate up there.
I've only done one official coach in yonks. That was Hull. They aim to get you to the ground 90-120 mins before the game and at Hull as soon as we got off the coach we could do what we wanted.
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I'm going up on one of the club coaches. Does anyone have any idea if the police will just shepherd us straight into the ground, or will we be able to have a wander around Newcastle? Hoping to meet a mate up there.
I've only done one official coach in yonks. That was Hull. They aim to get you to the ground 90-120 mins before the game and at Hull as soon as we got off the coach we could do what we wanted.
Thanks. Hoping that the EDL march up there doesn't mean they want to keep us all in the one place.
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The EDL thing starts at 9am so should be done and dusted by noon
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Villa to win. Bowyer and Dyer to have a fight followed by everyone asking "Why didn't Barry break up the fight?"
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Villa to win. Bowyer and Dyer to have a fight followed by everyone asking "Why didn't Barry break up the fight?"
Because Hendrie therw first?
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Another tepid loss. Possibly "unlucky" etc.
I just think these players are beaten and not good enough.
Sorry to be a downer.
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I'm going up on one of the club coaches. Does anyone have any idea if the police will just shepherd us straight into the ground, or will we be able to have a wander around Newcastle? Hoping to meet a mate up there.
Last season we were in plenty of time to get a few beers in before the game...as we're leaving at 8 (!!!!) we'll have a stop on the way up and probably be there by 1/1.30.
Don't forget to bring some egg sandwiches!
;-)
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I'm going up on one of the club coaches. Does anyone have any idea if the police will just shepherd us straight into the ground, or will we be able to have a wander around Newcastle? Hoping to meet a mate up there.
Last season we were in plenty of time to get a few beers in before the game...as we're leaving at 8 (!!!!) we'll have a stop on the way up and probably be there by 1/1.30.
Don't forget to bring some egg sandwiches!
;-)
I think we're leaving at 7.15. I know one lot who are leaving at half 6.
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Newcastle are atrocious. Hopeless and on their arse.
3-0 home win
And we`re not???....
Yes, that's what I was saying
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http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914 (http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914)
Newcastle boss Carver: Why I’d love to see Aston Villa go down this season
It was funny at the time but this reaction makes it even funnier. Bitter old sod.
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http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914 (http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914)
Newcastle boss Carver: Why I’d love to see Aston Villa go down this season
It was funny at the time but this reaction makes it even funnier. Bitter old sod.
I piss myself laughing at every bitter Newcastle fan, it's like they blame us for their team being useless. They were going down long before we put the final nail in the coffin.
If we go down we go down, I wont cry or bleat about another clubs fans laughing or taking the piss as they don't give a toss about us as we don't about them.
Whatever happens I will always smile when I remember that day, chances are we will get flogged at Newcastle but even if we do we still have enough games to save our sorry season whereas they were gone Hahahahahahaha.
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Villa need to show the same resolve that ugly old Stoke did last weekend. Silence the crowd, play aggressively from the start and don't give any stupid early goals away.
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I'm struggling to think of a more pathetic club than Newcastle. There's definitely nastier, but as far as melodramatic tendencies go, no one can match them.
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Met a few Newcastle fans when travelling around with England in the 90s. Boorish, tedious, obsessed loud mouthed wankers who think that the world revolves around them.
I hope we go 2-0 down, then with their hilarious 'loyal' fans jumping around with glee, watch as Benteke scores three in the last five minutes.
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So vlaar Richardson baker and Senderos definitely out and possibly Hutton and cissoko .
Would go - Lowton Clark Okore Stevens
Baker isn't out. I reckon one of Hutton or Cissokho will make it at least.
Lowton Okore Clark Cissokho/Hutton (if one makes it)
If not:
Lowton Okore Baker Clark
3 at the back ... Lowton and Delph as wingbacks?
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Like someone suggested on here yesterday, I reckon either Hutton or Cissokho will make it anyway, or maybe both. It might be a bit of early mind games from Timmy.
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Not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere, but I see Carver has said he'd be happy to see Villa go down. That should be motivation enough to beat them.
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Carver told the Chronicle: “Let me tell you, I never spoke to anybody for an hour after that full-time whistle went.
“It really hurt me. I wasn’t with the football club, but it’s my club.
“That hurt me. Every time you come up against Aston Villa that stays in there.
“I remember the reaction of their fans after the game and that stays inside and will never go away.
“So every time you come against Aston Villa it’s in the back of my head.”
And on the possibility of Villa being relegated, Carver said: “It happened to us a few seasons ago and it wasn’t nice.
“It’s funny how things work out in life.”
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http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914 (http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914)
Newcastle boss Carver: Why I’d love to see Aston Villa go down this season
It was funny at the time but this reaction makes it even funnier. Bitter old sod.
Wow, what a precious little snowflake.
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John Carver yesterday:
(http://www.ashcroftsurgery.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/crying-baby.jpg)
Diddums.
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Can't these loveable Geordie imbeciles realise that absolutely every team would have given Newcastle grief if they'd sent them down, yet few with such dry wit as Villa?
They got off lightly.
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Wonder what banners they will have lined up for us
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Wonder what banners they will have lined up for us
Something witty along the lines of
"WhyaimanHaHaHagazzabrownalefuckyousoutherncunts"
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Goes to show you can't mock someones messiah in this day of age and get away it... I'm drawing a cartoon of Shearer kissing Niall Quinn right now and I fully expect not to see out the weekend.
We need the point to stop the rot and regain some composure. I'd like to see us play solid and aggressive, wind the touchy darlings up and hit them on the break.
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Even the manager's like that, for god's sake. I suppose they don't realise that it's exactly this kind of cheek-dampening whingebaggery which is why we all laughed at them so much, and why anyone and everyone would have done the same.
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It's funny how things work out in life eh Carver ? Like you being out of work in the summer ?
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Carver acts like an absolute moron, so I suppose it's kind of expected.
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I haven't got a problem with Carver,
We took the piss when they were relegated
They will take the piss back if we go down, there is no point getting all precious about it,
That's the way it is and that's the way it should be
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I suspect that the Sunderland Echo quite enjoyed printing an article in which they can get away with the following:
A series of banners were unfurled in the home end, with several fans well prepared for the occasion.
Among them was one which read, ‘Who’s your next Messiah, Ant or Dec?’
Another simply said, ‘Sob on the Tyne’.
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He's talking like we are already relegated...
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I remember being at the 2-2 game in the late 90s,it was the first match after Keegan quit. The holte was singing '' he's playing golf, he's playing golf,Keegans playing golf '' to the three lions tune.
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I haven't got a problem with Carver,
We took the piss when they were relegated
They will take the piss back if we go down, there is no point getting all precious about it,
That's the way it is and that's the way it should be
I don't think it us getting precious about it, if anything his reaction makes it all even funnier, and I'm glad he hasn't forgotten it.
He does come across as a bit unprofessional though with his comments, to his own embarrassment - and possibly puts himself in an awkward position during May when his team play Leicester, QPR and Albion in three of their last four games. Anything less than his best XI putting in a performance in those games and his comments will be thrown back at him.
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What makes Carver look stupid is he is putting the entire season down to one game vs us. If he was bright or even a good coach (which he isn't - let's not forget he was fired as manager of Toronto FC in the MLS) he'd be diverting attention away from that. I think I am right In saying that maybe only Collocini and Taylor remain of the current players who played that day so how is that any motivation to them? It's sound bytes for the fans from a man who will likely be gone as soon as a new manager is found.
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Looking back at it, we weren't even all that bad. A couple of banners and a hearty chorus of "Going down" was about all; the Newcastle fans I spoke to afterwards didn't mention say anything about it as they were far more scathing of their team. It's one of those things that's been mythologised over the years.
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I haven't got a problem with Carver,
We took the piss when they were relegated
They will take the piss back if we go down, there is no point getting all precious about it,
That's the way it is and that's the way it should be
Well exactly. But the only people being precious about it are some Newcastle fans and their manager.
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Looking back at it, we weren't even all that bad. A couple of banners and a hearty chorus of "Going down" was about all; the Newcastle fans I spoke to afterwards didn't mention say anything about it as they were far more scathing of their team. It's one of those things that's been mythologised over the years.
didn't we sing "We'll meet again " ?
and I agree Dave, the Barcodes I know never ever mention it.
UTV
The Doc
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My mother and her side of the family are all from Newcastle and a few of them were at Villa Park that day. They said they never had a problem with it, as they'd have done the same if it had been the other way round. If anything, they were more hacked off at how piss poor their team had been over the season and how little fight they put up on the day.
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The thing is it's one thing their fans enjoying giving us a bit of stick. It's just a bit weird when their manager comes out and says it. Even if he thinks it it would be more professional not to comment.
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My mother and her side of the family are all from Newcastle and a few of them were at Villa Park that day. They said they never had a problem with it, as they'd have done the same if it had been the other way round. If anything, they were more hacked off at how piss poor their team had been over the season and how little fight they put up on the day.
That was what I remember most. You'd have thought they'd either stay up or die in the attempt but players and supporters both seemed to accept it. Maybe that's what they're still so pissed off about.
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They are just looking for a scapegoat to blame for their terrible side that season. Sadly we are an even worse rabble this season and their revenge will be sweet. Funny how Carver knows exactly how many times we have won in games against them since.... bitter man.
We can't avoid the fact that in the next 12 games, unless we do something remarkable to save ourselves, we are going to get a huge amount of ridicule.
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if we do go down there will be a lot more than Carver jumping around in joy about it
every other teams fans in the midlands will be loving it regardless of how well they are doing, we are the Kings of the midlands and if we fall they will all gather to rip the piss, and this is how it should be I would expect nothing less,
so we better start preparing a thick skin just in case the worst happens
at the end of the day though it doesn't matter, we will still be the Villa and they will still be a bunch of wanking tossbaskets
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going for this line up. It is likely nothing like the team itself but given our needs and injuries I'll go for this
-----------------------------------GUZAN----------------------------------------
-----LOWTON--------OKORE---------------CLARK-------------BACUNA-------
----------------------------------SANCHEZ------------------------------------
-----------------------GIL----------------------DELPH-------------------------
--------SINCLAIR--------------------------------------------GREALISH--------
----------------------------------BENTEKE-------------------------------------
SUBS: GIVEN, HUTTON, N'ZOGBIA, WESTWOOD, CLEVERLEY, SENDEROS, WEIMANN
I don't know who else is available to play LB so I think Bacuna might have played there. I suppose N'Zog could fill in as WB. He's played there before for Newcastle I believe. But that would be too aggressive in this system.
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We'll beat this shower tomorrow and wont be too far off them come the end of the season. They're an utterly craven outfit and were lucky not to be battered 8 or 9 last week.
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We'll beat this shower tomorrow and wont be too far off them come the end of the season. They're an utterly craven outfit and were lucky not to be battered 8 or 9 last week.
It's time for this:
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I haven't got a problem with Carver,
We took the piss when they were relegated
They will take the piss back if we go down, there is no point getting all precious about it,
That's the way it is and that's the way it should be
It's not us still whinging about it after 6 years.
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The thing is it's one thing their fans enjoying giving us a bit of stick. It's just a bit weird when their manager comes out and says it. Even if he thinks it it would be more professional not to comment.
That was my first thought as well. After last week's trouncing, maybe it's his feeble way of trying to get the fan's on his side.
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going for this line up. It is likely nothing like the team itself but given our needs and injuries I'll go for this
-----------------------------------GUZAN----------------------------------------
-----LOWTON--------OKORE---------------CLARK-------------BACUNA-------
----------------------------------SANCHEZ------------------------------------
-----------------------GIL----------------------DELPH-------------------------
--------SINCLAIR--------------------------------------------GREALISH--------
----------------------------------BENTEKE-------------------------------------
SUBS: GIVEN, HUTTON, N'ZOGBIA, WESTWOOD, CLEVERLEY, SENDEROS, WEIMANN
I don't know who else is available to play LB so I think Bacuna might have played there. I suppose N'Zog could fill in as WB. He's played there before for Newcastle I believe. But that would be too aggressive in this system.
He played there away at West Ham one year Im pretty sure and was awful. We drew 0-0 I think the same day.
Would prefer Baker coming in and Clark going to left back rather than Bacuna being thrown in there.
Would have Bacuna in ahead of Gil in your side above. Need to stop the losing run first and foremost.
Must be a good chance of Cleverley coming back in on the left wing to help protect whoever is at left back.
He did that job ok a couple of times in games earlier in the season, Palace and Burnley away that I can remember.
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don't think Baker is fit. On the break I'd much rather have Gil in that side, plus when we have the ball he poses a threat. I think last weekend he just wasn't 100% and Stoke bullied him.
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The whole country were laughing their arses off, not just us. I had texts from mates from all over the place, thanking us for sending the Geordie Nation down. We were just lucky enough to be the ones to put the final nail in.
At least Carver'll be in good company when he's signing on the old rock 'n' roll come June, he'll probably be in the queue with about 50,000 other Shearer-obsessed twats.
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I haven't got a problem with Carver,
We took the piss when they were relegated
They will take the piss back if we go down, there is no point getting all precious about it,
That's the way it is and that's the way it should be
It's not us still whinging about it after 6 years.
We didn't get relegated and get laughed at
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More important than the team selection is Sherwood's tactics for the game. Hopefully he won't fuck up again and from the comments from Ciaran Clark today on the OS, we won't be exposed to the same stupidity of hoofing. "The training has included short, sharp work. The players are feeling the benefit of that already. We're really enjoying it. There's a good intensity there."
Win the midfield and we'll create chances and play to our strengths. Leave the midfield open again and we'll get stuffed. I really fancy us to take all three points and shock a lot of people with our overall performance. The team are certainly capable of doing it, they just need to be allowed to show how good they really are. I'm trusting Sherwood has them up for it and KMac has the experience and knowledge to bring it all together.
After such a frustrating week, I really am looking forward to the game tomorrow.
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Is Joe Bennett or Antonio Luna a Villa Player on loan or they are sold ? As we need a left back.
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Is Joe Bennett or Antonio Luna a Villa Player on loan or they are sold ? As we need a left back.
Both on loan, as is Stevens. None of them can be recalled now as far as I'm aware....
...and they're shite.
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I would like to say i think we will win this but i just dont fancy us to be honest,but i think we will get a point.1-1
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Anyone who's going up and fancies being on TalkSport at 7.15am PM me.
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I haven't got a problem with Carver,
We took the piss when they were relegated
They will take the piss back if we go down, there is no point getting all precious about it,
That's the way it is and that's the way it should be
It's not us still whinging about it after 6 years.
I still haven't forgiven WBA for Cropley's leg and that was best part of 40 years back
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We'll beat the barcodes, Southampton beat the boggies, we'll then beat the boggies on Tuesday and sit one point above them at 21.45 simples.
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We'll beat the barcodes, Southampton beat the boggies, we'll then beat the boggies on Tuesday and sit one point above them at 21.45 simples.
hard drugs or legal highs ?
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We'll beat this shower tomorrow and wont be too far off them come the end of the season. They're an utterly craven outfit and were lucky not to be battered 8 or 9 last week.
Good man.
7/2 against us winning on offer at the bookmakers. 20 Grand from your savings account on the nose and use £70k for leveraged spread betting on the financial markets. Shooting fish in a bucket. Retired by Easter.
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We'll beat the barcodes, Southampton beat the boggies, we'll then beat the boggies on Tuesday and sit one point above them at 21.45 simples.
hard drugs or legal highs ?
Nice one, john. Made me laugh out loud at your response.
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Sherwood has had the U21's training beside the first team and he's been keeping a close eye. Any left backs that might catch his eye?
If Baker is back we can always shift Clark to LB.
Lewis Kinsella was mentioned in the Evening Mail earlier in the week. Would be a big ask to call a youngster in given our current situation.
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Get the impression Grealish is going to play
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It wouldn't be a complete shock and maybe just the platform the kid needs to flourish. A bit of trust and the licence to have a go. Having Grealish, Gil and Sinclair playing off Benteke is far more appealing than the thought of Gabby and even Weimann right now.
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I'd agree on that IF we have a strong back line supporting the midfield .
If Hutton and cissoko are out I would be concerned .
Not that we have a vast amount of options .
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It wouldn't be a complete shock and maybe just the platform the kid needs to flourish. A bit of trust and the licence to have a go. Having Grealish, Gil and Sinclair playing off Benteke is far more appealing than the thought of Gabby and even Weimann right now.
If he's going to stay with the same formation then it wouldn't surprise me either, as I think he'll bring someone else in on the right hand side to help out defensively. Gil got caught forward on a couple of occasions last week and left Hutton exposed.
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Our midfield is powder puff, the one big lad we have (Sanchez) is far too slow to play PL football.
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I'd rather play Baker at left back than Clark. He's worse on the ball, but Clark is the better centre back and, if there's going to be a fuck-up from someone misplacing a pass or overcommitting at the back, I'd rather it were out wide than in the middle.
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We just need to stay tight and disciplined and let them make the mistakes.
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I dreamt last night that we got beaten 4-0.
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If we had 10 more points I reckon we'd smash em tomorrow.
But everything is on such a knife edge now - I had to go out for a long walk after Vlaar's balls-up last week, actually feeling almost sick!
I don't want this tomorrow. Preferably 3-0 up with a couple of their players getting sent off would do just fine.
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Not just Carver whose being melodramatic
THE MAG
The atmosphere on Saturday needs to be at its venomous best from minute one. If anyone needs encouraging, cast your mind back to May 2009 when their loyal fan base for no reason mocked us, there were too many chants and banners for it NOT to be orchestrated.
To this day I have no idea why they did that, a team who have more empty seats than Sunderland chose to mock our relegation.
The 6-0 game only partially quenched my thirst for revenge, so let us for once forget our own in-house bickering, get behind the team from the start and let Villa and their spiteful fans know exactly where they are.
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Deluded.
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We'll beat the barcodes, Southampton beat the boggies, we'll then beat the boggies on Tuesday and sit one point above them at 21.45 simples.
hard drugs or legal highs ?
Neither me old son. Its called positivity. Try it some time. You never know, you might like it.
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I really hope you are right.
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Poor little darlings.
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I reckon we will lose but play excellent.
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I reckon we will lose but play excellent.
We will win this .
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Not just Carver whose being melodramatic
THE MAG
If anyone needs encouraging, cast your mind back to May 2009 when their loyal fan base for no reason mocked us....
For no reason? Christ almighty.
there were too many chants and banners for it NOT to be orchestrated.
Two banners and mocking chants does not make for for an orchestrated attack. Stop thinking so much of yourselves.
To this day I have no idea why they did that, a team who have more empty seats than Sunderland chose to mock our relegation.
The 6-0 game only partially quenched my thirst for revenge, so let us for once forget our own in-house bickering, get behind the team from the start and let Villa and their spiteful fans know exactly where they are.
This is pretty weird actually, but again shows the tendency of some NUFC fans to display no little hubris. Then they wonder why everyone laughed when they dropped.
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We will win and go again against our (in)-illustrious neighbours. I hope. Twice.
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Sherwood has had the U21's training beside the first team and he's been keeping a close eye. Any left backs that might catch his eye?
If Baker is back we can always shift Clark to LB.
Lewis Kinsella was mentioned in the Evening Mail earlier in the week. Would be a big ask to call a youngster in given our current situation.
Grealish posted Kinsella singing his first team squad initiation on instagram. Could be happening.
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I reckon we will lose but play excellent.
We will win this .
I pray your right.
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A draw and I am optimistic. Anything else I would be ecstatically optimistic. A goal from Benteke would take me otm.. It does not take much to make me happy these days.
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They're utterly deluded. They've won fuck all since colour television was invented, yet have this high opinion of themselves fuelled by a sports media who revel in taking the piss out of The "Gerodie Nation". Fucking idiots.
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They're utterly deluded. They've won fuck all since colour television was invented, yet have this high opinion of themselves fuelled by a sports media who revel in taking the piss out of The "Gerodie Nation". Fucking idiots.
It actually beggars belief that a club of that size have won nothing of note since 1955. It is an abysmal record, really.
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I used to regard them with bemused semi-pity, like you would a clapped-out circus sideshow, but now I'm really beginning to think they're a bunch of fucking self-indulgent, thick, prissy twats. Who the fuck do they think they are? What did they expect us to do - weep along with them? The whole nation was willing their demise. We dispatched them with a lesson in dry Brummie wit. Fuck them.
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http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914 (http://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/newcastle/newcastle-boss-carver-why-i-d-love-to-see-aston-villa-go-down-this-season-1-7128914)
Newcastle boss Carver: Why I’d love to see Aston Villa go down this season
It was funny at the time but this reaction makes it even funnier. Bitter old sod.
Carver ?
Haddaway and shite man. Bugger marra.
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The bar codes are shit. Even if they beat us tomorrow they will still be shit. Crap club, wank fans.
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How does Carver know what our reactions were after the game considering the twat wasn't even at VP?
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I think you'll find that it wasn't just Villa who relegated the bar codes, it was 18 other clubs too. Oh, and Gallowgate hero Alan Shearer!!
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Carver is playing to the crowd there, maybe they will get him to do a rendition of "shit on the villa" before the game as not sure he is suited to managing a football team. Their fans are bitter, it was humour and they would have done the same thing if it was the other way round. I really really hope we beat these wankers
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I used to regard them with bemused semi-pity, like you would a clapped-out circus sideshow, but now I'm really beginning to think they're a bunch of fucking self-indulgent, thick, prissy twats. Who the fuck do they think they are? What did they expect us to do - weep along with them? The whole nation was willing their demise. We dispatched them with a lesson in dry Brummie wit. Fuck them.
Heh heh
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Standing on my corner for all those years gave me an insight into supporter mentality. Liverpool fans were blatant gloryhunters, even more so than Manchester United. Chelsea and Sours were arrogant Cockneys, Arsenal less arrogant but with added Tarquinism. They all thought their witty asides about Brummies and accents were hugely original. And every year Newcastle supporters would say how big their club was and how small we are. Not more successful, not better, but always bigger. They are as obsessed with size as Small Heath are with us.
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There is no point packing a big one if you never get it wet.
Do I win a prize for crudest analogy?
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I used to regard them with bemused semi-pity, like you would a clapped-out circus sideshow, but now I'm really beginning to think they're a bunch of fucking self-indulgent, thick, prissy twats. Who the fuck do they think they are? What did they expect us to do - weep along with them? The whole nation was willing their demise. We dispatched them with a lesson in dry Brummie wit. Fuck them.
Well said.
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I know Paulie thinks this Newcastle squad is on a par with what they had in the 90s but really I look at what they played v Man. City..Williamson....Anita....Abeid....Obertan....Dummett....I just think how badly we've been run these past these years that we're in constant relegation battles year in year out and yet Newcastle with their Pardew out demos and Mike Ashley running the show are safely tucked in mid table.
Yes they have good players like Sissoko and Cisse but so do we so it is very depressing to see them a good 10 points clear which will probably be the difference at the end of the year.
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There is no point packing a big one if you never get it wet.
Do I win a prize for crudest analogy?
They have not always packed a big one, far from it tbh
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Overlooking the stalled hill start against Stoke last weekend, I'm really hoping this is where we ram raid the jewellers and then floor it up the street tyres screeching and smoking this weekend at St. James's. We have to get 3 pts. Don't care how we do it - 0-1 or 0-5, just badly, badly need a win to stop the rot and turn things around. Even a draw won't be good enough. The players need to give the full Ron Saunders 110% and show they are up for this scrap and willing to justify their daft salaries.
This match will give us a clear direction as to whether we are going to stay up or go down. I'm willing to predict (predictions aren't really my strong point, mind) win it and we'll stay up. Lose it and I fear we will be heading for the championship. There is so much riding on this match. They have to get the belief and the confidence back into this group of players and get them absolutely fucking fired up for this. Every header, every 50/50, every corner and free kick has to count. Run like they've never run before, provide the options, make the chances and get the bastard ball in the net as many times as they can!
Come on Villa, it really is shit or bust now- you have to step up and do it for the club and the supporters.
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2-0 Newcastle.
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Having a little wager on 1-2 and Benteke scoring
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I know Paulie thinks this Newcastle squad is on a par with what they had in the 90s but really I look at what they played v Man. City..Williamson....Anita....Abeid....Obertan....Dummett....I just think how badly we've been run these past these years that we're in constant relegation battles year in year out and yet Newcastle with their Pardew out demos and Mike Ashley running the show are safely tucked in mid table.
Yes they have good players like Sissoko and Cisse but so do we so it is very depressing to see them a good 10 points clear which will probably be the difference at the end of the year.
It sadly just highlights that Pardew is a much better, but still very mediocre manager, than Lambert.
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lol every season it does cheer me up when Newcastle fans (and now coaches) embarrass themselves by reminding everyone how they relegated themselves at our place and the whole league laughed.
Good times, good times.
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Funny thing is, if some of their players that day and that season had shown as much passion and distaste of what happened like their fans have in 6 years. I don't think they would have gone down as would have probably done enough to get the results they needed. I remember being there that day and the game was dull, it is only us taking the piss that was a highlight and that an own goal sent them down. Still think the 'Only One Kevin Keegan chants' in the 4 -1 game the season before was funnier.
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Its probably much more comforting for them to blame a couple of little signs from the opposition fans than their players being shite.
When we go down again (and I think it will be this season) I hope we will have the good grace to blame nobody but ourselves and take in good humour the fact that most of the rest of the league will find it richly amusing.
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Hard earned 1-1 Benteke in the last 10
UTV
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I think we will win this. At some point the understandable negativity amongst the team must reach a point where some form of bounce back must happen. All indicators say now is the time.
A DCM that can tackle would help things along, though.
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Anyone who's going up and fancies being on TalkSport at 7.15am PM me.
Hull fanzine editor on now . Booooo, no travelling villa fans made it on the show.
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3.1 to them
Cole hat trick
Townsend for us
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Please win today Villa.
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Anyone who's going up and fancies being on TalkSport at 7.15am PM me.
Hull fanzine editor on now . Booooo, no travelling villa fans made it on the show.
Did they say that they owed us?
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Standing on my corner for all those years gave me an insight into supporter mentality. Liverpool fans were blatant gloryhunters, even more so than Manchester United. Chelsea and Sours were arrogant Cockneys, Arsenal less arrogant but with added Tarquinism. They all thought their witty asides about Brummies and accents were hugely original. And every year Newcastle supporters would say how big their club was and how small we are. Not more successful, not better, but always bigger. They are as obsessed with size as Small Heath are with us.
That's either inspired or one of the best typos ever.
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1-1. Benteke for us, Beardsley for them. I'd take a point here.
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Pardew was doing a good job
The fans hated him
He thought fuck this I'm going to palace , yes palace
Now they have fucking carver
Fuck them
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Do some of you mean that the Geordie Nation aren't your second team and you actually mocked their demise for 20 seconds before going back to more important things?
Hang your heads.
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Please Villa, dig deep today for those 3 points
"Our Father, which art in heaven,.........."
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They don't mention the banner we did for their lads who went down on that Malaysia flight do they .
Selective mammories .
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A scrappy 0-0 today I reckon.
I'll watch it, but I am pretty sure that by 4:50 I'll wish I hadn't...
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This game isn't the be all and end all for the season, but a win would be a massive boost ahead of the next 4-5 games that will determine our fate. Above all else, we are due some luck. The game reminds me of the game 2 years ago when we lost to Newcastle at VP but played really well in the 2nd half. That game combined with Guzans save vs QPR & Lowtons goal at Stoke turned things around for us. From that point we started to hit a bit of form & the players seemed to rally, we need the same attitude / mentality / luck from today forwards. We have to do it ourselves, players & fans.
UTV
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I dreamt last night that we got beaten 4-0.
I dreamt last night myself and my family had to go into hiding from the IRA.
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I dreamt last night that we got beaten 4-0.
I dreamt last night myself and my family had to go into hiding from the IRA.
I had my first villa dream in many years. Oddly Tom Fox was giving me advice on renovating my stone garage - he was very contrary to my suggestions! Very strange. Too much sugar before bed perhaps.
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Dont think first Sherwood win will come today but we will grind out a point, Swansea to help us by beating Burnley and were out of the bottom 3.
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I dreamt last night that we got beaten 4-0.
I dreamt last night myself and my family had to go into hiding from the IRA.
I had my first villa dream in many years. Oddly Tom Fox was giving me advice on renovating my stone garage - he was very contrary to my suggestions! Very strange. Too much sugar before bed perhaps.
I was actually relieved to wake up and discover it was a dream. Might be worth getting an expert in rather than Fox to advise?
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I reckon this afternoon is going to be much more exciting than recent Saturday afternoons.
I shall be spending it removing old grout from bathroom tiles.
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BTW, I think today could be a good one for "villa leading at half time, to lose at full time" bet.
Nice bit of 33/1 action.
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I don't look forward to away games and following the action on SKY any more. I start off with little, if any hope but still feel gutted when we lose. It makes for a grim Saturday from waking up in the morning to going to sleep at night.
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a draw would be a fine result for me, something to build on, I fear we will lose though
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BTW, I think today could be a good one for "villa leading at half time, to lose at full time" bet.
Nice bit of 33/1 action.
That looks a good bet .
Or villa / draw
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If Newcastle score first then it is pretty much game over.