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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Liam_Baggies on November 18, 2013, 01:26:44 PM
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Hi,
On our forum (westbrom.com) we run a weekly feature where I get your thoughts ahead of Monday's game. If you could answer the questions beneath it would be most appreciated. The finished article shall be posted in this topic later on in the week.
Firstly, I would like to apologise to the forum administrators if this violates any forum rules or is indeed in the wrong place.
1. What are your expectations for Aston Villa this season?
2. What are your expectations for WBA this season?
3. Paul Lambert had a tough season last year, what have you made of his tenure so far?
4. What are your views on your summer recruitment?
5. What are your views on our summer recruitment? (Additions of Anelka, Sessegnon, Anichebe, Vydra, Sinclair etc)
6. The previous game finished 2-2. What were your thoughts on that game. Fair result?
7. Being honest, who will finish higher in the table come the end of the season? Albion or Villa.
8. What are Villa's strengths and weaknesses?
9. What side is Paul Lambert most likely to choose?
10. And finally, score predictions.
Thank you.
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1. What are your expectations for Aston Villa this season?
I am hoping for a continued improvement from last season, picking things up form wise from how we started to pick up points from February onwards, which in fairness, is what we have done. We have had the hardest start to the campaign of any club in the league, but we're nicely tucked into mid-table.
Anything from 12th-8th is a possibility, as there are a number of sides milling around the league of similar quality.
2. What are your expectations for WBA this season?
I would expect you're aiming for around the same spots as we are.
3. Paul Lambert had a tough season last year, what have you made of his tenure so far?
I find the man and his vision for the club refreshing over what went before. He has been dealt a hand few managers could cope with; a huge wage deficit to be made up, while taking over one of the poorest squads in the league. He has re-built the entire squad, has played infinitely more attractive football than his predecessor and has managed to completely balance the books in the process. He has given us a sustainable platform to build from for the future.
4. What are your views on your summer recruitment?
There were a lot of unexpected names, with most recruits being youngsters from Europe. Probably the best, Okore, is out for the season unfortunately. The likes of Tonev and Kozak look useful, but it takes time for them to bed in.
Bacuna has looked very good and I would like to see him get a run in midfield.
5. What are your views on our summer recruitment? (Additions of Anelka, Sessegnon, Anichebe, Vydra, Sinclair etc)
I thought some of the signings were panic buys, the amount you spent on Anichebe for example seemed out of the norm and a little over the top. Sessegnonn has quality, but is an in and out player, probably best typified by his good run against Stoke and his awful finish in the last minute.
6. The previous game finished 2-2. What were your thoughts on that game. Fair result?
We should have been well out of sight by half time. Defensively lapses were common place last season, so the fact we let a lead slip wasn’t all that surprising. We seem to have brushed off some of the naivety and we are a lot stronger defensively this time around.
7. Being honest, who will finish higher in the table come the end of the season? Albion or Villa.
The Villa will.
8. What are Villa's strengths and weaknesses?
I think our biggest weakness is creativity in the midfield, especially at home. We miss a number 10 to link the play.
9. What side is Paul Lambert most likely to choose?
If Gabby is fit, then it may be: Guzan, Lowton, Baker, Vlaar, Luna, Westwood, Sylla, Delph, Bacuna, Gabby, Benteke.
10. And finally, score predictions.
Villa win via a 93rd minute handball, with the scorer being offside too. Peace gets his crayon out and writes another letter to the FA, Fifa and the Dalai lama claiming it bay fair.
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1) Mid table
2) See 1
3) Better than the previous 2 incumbents given the situation.
4) In keeping with cutting cloth. OK but the best propect seems to be injured.
5) Mixed. Sessegnon should be good with someone who can handle him properly. Sinclair if he is moivated. Thankfully when you signed him I got Anichebe mixed up with Pinear in my own head.
6) Possbily. Maybe an age thing but I can't remember much. I can remember 0-0 in December 1987 and April 2006. Because I was there.
7) Probably Albion by 5 points or so.
8) Stengths - GK and Forwards when they are fit. Waeknesses - some of the rest.
9) Dunno depends on availability.
10) 1-2 to Villa. If it was at VP I'd say the same in WBA's favour.
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1. Mid-table
2. Mid-table
3. He had a massive job on his hands when he took over. It's been a complete overhaul of the team he inherited. Due to this, the fans have been more patient with him. There's been obvious major disappointments in his first season, but he's getting there.
4. A bit mixed. Players signed who we had no idea about and some of the foreign lads seem to be taking a bit of time adjusting to the speed of the Premier League. Bacuna has had a great start, Tonev hasn't !
5. Anelka looks way past his best and Vydra and Sinclair have hardly kicked a ball. Sessegnon looks dangerous but looks like he will only perform when he's in the mood. Anichebe - always thought he looked a handful for Everton but doesn't score many goals (see Heskey, Emile).
6. The classic game of 2 halves. Fair result.
7. I honestly don't think there will be more than 3 or 4 points in it either way. Letting my heart rule my head, Villa to finish higher.
8. Defensively we look a lot more solid than last season when we needed to score 3 to stand a chance of winning a match. Always likely to score a goal with Benteke in the side. Weakness - not enough creativity in the midfield.
9. Guzan, Baker, Clark, Vlaar, Bacuna, Delph, Sylla, Westwood, Weimann, Gabby, Benteke (injuries depending)
10. 1-1
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I agree with Ads with 1-8. as for the team, Clark will keep his place over Luna. Hopefully Delph will be fit but if not Weimann with Bacuna deeper. As for the result, 1-0 Benteke from a Bacuna set piece.
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1- 9th-12th
2- As above.
3- His ideas in principal are good. The execution hasn't always been there, and often a bit naive, but he's getting there. He's been more pro-active than previous managers in identifying and trying to rectify problems. He still has his stubborn areas (lack of width for example), but he did something significant to improve our defence in the summer with new playing and coaching additions.
4- Bacuna is a fans favourite already. Luna looks a good purchase. Positionally he needs work but that should come. Kozak has done okay overall. He's struggled at times to impact on games, but not entirely from his own fault. Okore will be very good. Tonev looks lively. Helenius I'm not sure on. I just wonder whether he'll be one of those players, a bit like Mattieu Berson who may never settle in this league. I hope not.
5- Sessegnon can turn a game when he wants to. The other signings are a mixed bag really. I think it's the young lad Berahino who really stands out for the Baggies right now.
6- I thought we had the game in our hands and poor defensive organisation and performances had us throwing away the result. Had we had a bit more nous to kill the game and stay tight we'd have been good value, but overall, we took our foot of the gas and gifted a point back to you. In all I'd say it's a fair result. If you gift goals and don't see out games you can't complain if you get 1 pt instead of 3.
7- Very close but I think Benteke is the difference. We'll finish higher. Had the Baggies re-acquired Lukaku for the season, I'd have had them ahead by a nose if I'm being honest.
8- Our strength is Benteke. He's not at his best at the moment but he'll get back to it again. He's going to hit 15-20 league goals this season. Guzan at the other end is also a top keeper. Our weakness is midfield. Lambert wants to play the ball on deck, high tempo. He wants us to aspire to be like Dortmund I guess, but we don't have enough technical ability in the middle of the pitch and we lack a mid with guile.
9- Depending on the fitness of Clark, he may well go for the back 3 and wing back system with Benteke and Kozak up top. Probably Westwood, Delph and KEA/ Sylla in CM.
10- 1-1. It won't be a pretty game to watch, as derbies rarely are. It'll be tight. A bit of Benteke magic for us. Sessegnon may raise his game for this, or perhaps Berahino with the other goal.
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1- 9th to 12th
2- as above
3- mixed , good signings but questionable tactics and formations at times- work in progress.
4- failed to address the main problem of creativity in midfield - bacuna and okore very good signings
5- Albion have some decent young players but will you keep them?
6-villa should have killed the game off in the first half - 2 points lost.
7-little to choose , could be either .
8-strengths are counter attacking , defence much better but midfield still weak.
9- you tell me - who can ever predict his team?
10-Albion 1 villa 2
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1. Mid table. If I had to put a number on it, I'd say 10th, but the main thing is this young side shows some progress, which we have so far
2. League position wise I'd say you'll be very close to us.
3. Very good on balance.
4. Bacuna and Okore, until his injury, looked very good. The rest seem to e slow burners, so we'll have to wait and see.
5. I think you've gone backwards squad wise, but that's because you've lost Lukaku and the combination of Anelka and Anichebe won't make up for that.
6. Can't really remember too much about it to be honest, so that probably means it was a fair result.
7. Toss of a coin, really. If and when Benteke finds his scoring boots again we could pinch it, but I can't see an awful lot of points being in it either way.
8. Last year attack was the strength and defense the weakness. This year the weakness seems to be midfield creativity at home, but I think our goal scoring ability, mainly Benteke, will prove to be the strength again.
9. Too many injured at the moment to be sure. If everyone were fit, other than Okore, I'd go Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Luna, Westwood, Delph, Bacuna, Gabby, Benteke and Weimann.
10. 1-1.
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1. 9-12th
2. Same
3. I think he has done a good job so far but it will be at the end of year 3 when he will be judged. Will he overcome the perenial issue of improving us past the 3 year tenure?
4. Bacuna and Okore look class. Luna has potential. Not impressed with Helenius and Kozak as yet.
5. Not taken too much notice to be honest.
6. Was pissed off at the time as we should have had the game won. On reflection it was a typical games of 2 halves so fair result.
7. Think we have more potential to get better so will say Villa
8. Youthful exhuberance which is a strength and weakness in equal measure for us at the moment
9. Guzan, Bacuna, Vlaar, Baker, Clark, Westwood, Sylla, Delph, Benteke, Weimann, Kozak
10. 2-1
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1. Top half but not in Europe
2. Bottom half but not relegation
3. B-
4. Bacuna and Okore are quality. Luna is impressive. Jury still out on Kojak and the Gladiator.
5. Not fussed, sorry.
6. Should have been a Villa win.
7. Villa
8. We only have strengths
9. The winning one.
10. We will score more than you.
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That 2-2 game last season was our entire season in a nutshell.
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Nice forum, by the way.
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1: 8th
2: 14th
3: I like what he's trying to do, even though it spectacularly fails sometimes. We finally seem to have some kind of long term plan in place.
4: Okore looked top class before his injury, Bacuna looks very good and the others have shown promise. I'd like to see more of Helenius in the first team.
5: Don't care.
6: Was typical of our season. We battered you in the first half and could have been out of sight. It was no shock we ended up dropping two points by full time.
7: Villa
8: We're Paul Lambert's Villa. Who knows as it changes from game to game.
9: Is that you Mr Clarke
10: 3-1 Villa win.
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Nice forum, by the way.
I was just looking at their pre match thread.
Reading some of their comments, you'd think they were pushing for Europe and we were in a relegation fight rather than us one place below them on goal difference - a goal difference of 1.
I don't have anything against Albion by and large, I never encountered them in my youth as i was the other side of the city, so i find it hard to get annoyed too much by them either way - they've been utterly insignificant to me for 45 years - but reading some of that forum, they don't half have some deluded fans.
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I was just looking at their pre match thread.
Reading some of their comments, you'd think they were pushing for Europe and we were in a relegation fight rather than us one place below them on goal difference - a goal difference of 1.
I don't have anything against Albion by and large, I never encountered them in my youth as i was the other side of the city, so i find it hard to get annoyed too much by them either way - they've been utterly insignificant to me for 45 years - but reading some of that forum, they don't half have some deluded fans.
Apart from one member who was talking with his tongue firmly in his cheek I don't see how you have come to the conclusion that some of our supporters on the forum are deluded - unless you're looking in a topic which I've missed.
Most of us have admitted this will be a difficult game and that a draw is most likely.
Nice forum, by the way.
Thank you.
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Leave them to it. They're not used to this. Like the Shit ten years ago, they think they're on the brink of being better than us permanently. It won't happen.They may have a few more good seasons and enjoy it in the stands. But, then they'll drop again and The Shit will have another 'go'. We've seen this all before. Yes, we do know what you are, another 'rival' that cares as much about getting one over us as what you do. If the Albion had finished one place below us last year, or most years, we really wouldn't give a shit or think that its something worth celebrating.
Albion and The Shit fans think we're arrogant. But we're not. we're just the biggest club in our area by far. We aspire to being back at the top again but know its going to be nigh on impossible at the moment. But that's our psyche. That's what makes us different from fans of the Albion and The shit.
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I do like it when we get nice visitors from other clubs - we have had a few really decent ones on here and occasionally the odd bad eggs - sometimes i do browse other forums on rare occassions and its nice to see things from their perspective - respect is the name of the game .
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I do like it when we get nice visitors from other clubs - we have had a few really decent ones on here and occasionally the odd bad eggs
That Stoke fan, didn't like him one bit. He's the reason I hate Stoke City, just him. Or her, might have been female but I doubt it.
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I do like it when we get nice visitors from other clubs - we have had a few really decent ones on here and occasionally the odd bad eggs
That Stoke fan, didn't like him one bit. He's the reason I hate Stoke City, just him. Or her, might have been female but I doubt it.
Ah that old scoundrel bunny you mean !
A wolf in sheeps clothing :(
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I do like it when we get nice visitors from other clubs - we have had a few really decent ones on here and occasionally the odd bad eggs
That Stoke fan, didn't like him one bit. He's the reason I hate Stoke City, just him. Or her, might have been female but I doubt it.
Ah that old scoundrel bunny you mean !
A wolf in sheeps clothing :(
That's him. Or her.
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1. What are your expectations for Aston Villa this season?
Not to be involved in a relegation battle.
2. What are your expectations for WBA this season?
Thought you'd struggle after your finish to last season, but the end of the transfer window did you the world of good.
3. Paul Lambert had a tough season last year, what have you made of his tenure so far?
Got a lot of time for him. Intrigued by his transfer business too.
4. What are your views on your summer recruitment?
Considering our net spend was 10-12m, pretty good. Like Bacuna, think Okore would have been this season's benteke but for his injury.
5. What are your views on our summer recruitment? (Additions of Anelka, Sessegnon, Anichebe, Vydra, Sinclair etc)
Amalfitano looks good, always rated Sessegnon. Madness from Di Canio to sell to a prem rival.
6. The previous game finished 2-2. What were your thoughts on that game. Fair result?
I was annoyed we blew a 2-goal half time lead, but would have taken a draw before the game.
7. Being honest, who will finish higher in the table come the end of the season? Albion or Villa.
Villa, just.
8. What are Villa's strengths and weaknesses?
Having one of the best CFs in the league, having a great work ethic in the team nowadays.
9. What side is Paul Lambert most likely to choose?
Depends on injuries, probably a 4-3-3 system.
10. And finally, score predictions.
2-1 to West Brom.
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I feel unclean now ...
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1 Be over the moon with top half, to be clear of relegation by March.
2 I thought you would struggle a bit as Lukaku was a big loss. Some decent signings should now see you do about the same as last year.
3 Not convinced by the 'youth is all' policy, but then overpaid aging players was getting us nowhere either. If he can strike a nice balance of value for money experience and promising youth in the next few years I'll be happy. I just want us to be competitive.
4 The squad needed improving rather than filling up with more of the same. We bought more promising untried youngsters, most of whom have done very well. Still think there is a massive hole in the spine of our team. Mulumbu would improve us massively IMO, as would Gareth Barry on Loan who we reportedly turned down.
5 Anelka, awful business. Sessegnon very hit and miss but done well so far. Anichebe, my WBA colleague is very happy with him but for me, meh. Sinclair, not for me. Amalfitano looks the pick, very good player there.
6 If our defence had been as in form as this year we'd have won comfortably. Conceding early in the second half killed us. We should have been home and dry by half time though, I doubt Albion were expecting us to be that good. It was a fair result though. And if my auntie had bollocks she'd be my uncle!
7 It'll be quite close I think. I think the better we are, the better your lot will be, as you seem to like to measure your progress by us.
8 Strengths Benteke, weaknesses for me is other than Delph a pretty anonymous centre midfield
9 Will be a 4-2-4 Guzan Luna Vlaar Baker Lowton Bacuna Delph Weimann Tonev Benteke and Kozak
10 I said 3-1 in the thread but I don't care so long as we win.
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1. What are your expectations for Aston Villa this season? Survival as early as possible, and not to give up in the one remaining chance at silverware at the earliest opportunity.
2. What are your expectations for WBA this season? They'll finish well below last season, and an overall trend of struggle will kick in.
3. Paul Lambert had a tough season last year, what have you made of his tenure so far? I like the man, I like his policies, but I'll admit a lot of his decisions puzzle me. But by and large, they make sense in hindsight, so he's earned my patience.
4. What are your views on your summer recruitment? I couldn't think of anything we needed other than defensive recruitment, and we bought in an excellent player and an unknown. As we've lost the excellent option, I feared the worst, but Vlaar and Clark have stepped up thankfully. As for the others, none of them have had much more than fleeting chances to impress.
5. What are your views on our summer recruitment? (Additions of Anelka, Sessegnon, Anichebe, Vydra, Sinclair etc) Unimpressive. Sessegnon is the new N'Zogbia, and Anichebe was a panic recruitment. I would have not been impressed if Lukaku had ended up back with you. If Clark has any pretensions to success, Jeremy Peace needs to give him mucho mazoola to recruit permanent talent.
6. The previous game finished 2-2. What were your thoughts on that game. Fair result? Not really. Villa threw it away. Benteke scared the living shit out of your lot; then being 2-0 up scared the shit out of ours.
7. Being honest, who will finish higher in the table come the end of the season? Albion or Villa. The pessimist tells me Albion, but the realist knows this will be the last time. For a long time.
8. What are Villa's strengths and weaknesses? Strengths, we've yet to kick into gear, playing away seems better suited to us and at some point, Benteke's going to win a game single handed again. Weaknesses, not enough creativity, tend to fade towards the end of halves, let teams have the ball too much.
9. What side is Paul Lambert most likely to choose? Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Baker, Bacuna, Delph, Westwood, Sylla, Benteke, Kozak.
10. And finally, score predictions. 2-1 Villa, but it'll not be as close a game as the score suggests.
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Hi,
On our forum (westbrom.com) we run a weekly feature where I get your thoughts ahead of Monday's game. If you could answer the questions beneath it would be most appreciated. The finished article shall be posted in this topic later on in the week.
Firstly, I would like to apologise to the forum administrators if this violates any forum rules or is indeed in the wrong place.
1. What are your expectations for Aston Villa this season?
Top half but 10th will do and keep away from bottom 6.
2. What are your expectations for WBA this season?
You would be happy with same as us but I expect you to finish 12th however after watching your last 3/4 games last season I seriously thought you will be in the relegation mire.
3. Paul Lambert had a tough season last year, what have you made of his tenure so far?
He 'll be fine.
4. What are your views on your summer recruitment?
Okore, Bacuna top signings. Luna, Kozak and Helenius need time but they are all better than our squad sat season.
5. What are your views on our summer recruitment? (Additions of Anelka, Sessegnon, Anichebe, Vydra, Sinclair etc)
Other than Sessgnon their are all waste of money. Lucky that Berhino has made the step up.
6. The previous game finished 2-2. What were your thoughts on that game. Fair result?
I was there and N'Zogbia murdered you. We should have won 3/4 to nil but such was our confidence last season that we allowed you back in. If we go 2 up next week it's goodnight Vienna for you.
7. Being honest, who will finish higher in the table come the end of the season? Albion or Villa.
Villa no doubt honest.
8. What are Villa's strengths and weaknesses?
Strength I'd Guzan, Vlaar, Delphi and the Beast good core to the team bur we let down by weaker midfield and support strikers.
9. What side is Paul Lambert most likely to choose?
Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Baker; Bacuna, Westwood, Delphi, Sylla; Benteke, Kozak
10. And finally, score predictions.
2-1 to us
Thank you.
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1. A small improvement on last years points and league position making us safe a few games earlier.
2. A few points ahead of Villa but not as strong as the prior season.
3. Good on the whole but I'm never quite sure which Villa will turn up. I like that he sticks to his guns and has trusted his own signings and some of our less experienced players. He did well to hold onto Benteke. For all intents and purposes, he has replaced or augmented every position within the squad with one of his own but he now needs to add quality to the side. He took too long to deal with our defensive issues and now that those look to be sorted, we have stopped scoring.
4. Okore would have been our best signing but is now out for the season. Tonev has been trying too hard to impress and might never get there. Aside from scoring free kicks (which we haven't had at the Villa for a while), I've not seen enough of Bacuna to judge. Kozak can do a job for us but will never be first choice whilst Benteke is around. I had high hopes for Helenius but it doesn't look like he is ready to take his chance yet.
5. I watched Vydra play for Watford a lot last year and he was incredible for the first 2 thirds of the season and he faded badly after that. I thought he would have been an astute signing for you but he does not seem to be getting used much? Sessegnon can be hot and cold. I agree with others that Anichebe seems to be an odd signing - definitely no Lukaku replacement. Anelka looks to have been a disaster so far, I hope that he is on a pay as you play type of deal.
6. The typical Villa performance, playing well for only periods of the game. We could have been further ahead but on balance the result was fair. Once you got one back it was always a matter of time before you equalised.
7. Albion.
8. When we press high up the pitch and quickly move the ball forward we can be formidable. We have always struggled to dominate possession and lack any penetration from midfield.
9. Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Baker, Clark, Westwood, Bacuna, Sylla, Delph, Agbonlahor, Benteke. 442.
10. 1-1
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1 Top half.
2 Thought they would struggle but now think they are capable of a top ten finish.
3 The low point was the January transfer window considering the trouble we were in at the time, but he is going in the right direction.
4 We strengthened the squad and gave ourselves options we needed but didn't have last year.
5 I thought it smacked of panic at the end but it looks like Sessegnon will be a valuable addition. I thought Sinclair was a good move at the time but it doesn't seem to have worked out as well as I thought it would so far.
6 Fair result and summed us up around that period.
7 I think they will finish very close to each other in the table around the 8th to 12th positions.
8 Our main strength is if Gabby, Benteke and Weimann are all fit and firing. Our weakness is defence but we are looking better individually and collectively in that department in recent weeks.
9 Hard to tell with a few injury question marks
10 1-1 or 2-2
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Cheers, folks.
http://westbrom.com/forum/index.php?topic=12570.0
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Good read but who's Concrete Tom?
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Good read but who's Concrete Tom?
;D
Bloody hell. Apologies John!
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Good read but who's Concrete Tom?
;D
Bloody hell. Apologies John!
That's not a problem, Liam!
However, you do seem to have attributed some answers to me that I didn't give?
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Good read but who's Concrete Tom?
The chap who posted a couple above yours? Concrete Tom and Concrete John are two different people.
Unless I've missed something.
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Well done Clampy you blithering idiot. ;D
There's a concrete John and Concrete Tom.
I knew I had it right first time. To think I edited all those posts as well
;D
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Well done Clampy you blithering idiot. ;D
There's a concrete John and Concrete Tom.
I knew I had it right first time. To think I edited all those posts as well
;D
Very good stuff Liam ;)
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I was just looking at their pre match thread.
Reading some of their comments, you'd think they were pushing for Europe and we were in a relegation fight rather than us one place below them on goal difference - a goal difference of 1.
I don't have anything against Albion by and large, I never encountered them in my youth as i was the other side of the city, so i find it hard to get annoyed too much by them either way - they've been utterly insignificant to me for 45 years - but reading some of that forum, they don't half have some deluded fans.
Apart from one member who was talking with his tongue firmly in his cheek I don't see how you have come to the conclusion that some of our supporters on the forum are deluded - unless you're looking in a topic which I've missed.
Most of us have admitted this will be a difficult game and that a draw is most likely.
Nice forum, by the way.
Thank you.
Looking at the score predictions on the thread I think delusions is a pretty fair assessment, there's a 4-0 and a 4-1 for starters, that's just silly, both teams average about a goal a game for and against, this is going to be tight and pretty low scoring, with 1-1 the safe bet. I'm all for a bit of bravado but reign it in a bit, there's nothing between the teams in terms of results and very little in terms of squad depth or quality in the starting 11.
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We haven't conceded a goal away from home since August. We're probably due to ship one.
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My apologies Liam Baggies. I completely missed Concerete Tom's post. I just assumed you meant our very own Concrete John.
Oh and apologies to Concrete Tom.
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My apologies Liam Baggies. I completely missed Concerete Tom's post. I just assumed you meant our very own Concrete John.
Oh and apologies to Concrete Tom.
That has just taken a while for me to work out, too.
Welcome, Concrete Tom.
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My apologies Liam Baggies. I completely missed Concerete Tom's post. I just assumed you meant our very own Concrete John.
Oh and apologies to Concrete Tom.
That has just taken a while for me to work out, too.
Welcome, Concrete Tom.
How's Concrete Dom these days? Haven't heard from him in a while.
...:) Got you all thinking there, didn't I?
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Have we all seen some of the lovely responses to what Liam put up on their forum?
To be honest, mine were a bit tongue in cheek and Liam seems a decent guy. But dear me, that Zippy and Bungle guy seems like a right racist dick.
Agbonlahors 'big bottom lip' indeed. We know what he is
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My apologies Liam Baggies. I completely missed Concerete Tom's post. I just assumed you meant our very own Concrete John.
Oh and apologies to Concrete Tom.
That has just taken a while for me to work out, too.
Welcome, Concrete Tom.
How's Concrete Dom these days? Haven't heard from him in a while.
He left the forum. He's Concrete Gone.
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Liam well done for starting this and publishing a fair summary on blah blah.com. You are the third decent Albion fan and I know plenty of undecent ones!
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Liam well done for starting this and publishing a fair summary on blah blah.com. You are the third decent Albion fan and I know plenty of undecent ones!
Me too, my missus for starters !
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Undecent?
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Just got back from watching the Hammers getting hammered.
Very welcome to see such a civilised thread Liam Baggies. It is a shame there are not more fans from local clubs like yourself.
Right, that's enough kissing arse. Hoping for a great game between our teams, but we will push you to the limit Liam.
I am going with a 3-1 win for Villa. No disrespect, but i think we are due a good away win.
Take care and enjoy the game. UTV.
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We haven't conceded a goal away from home since August. We're probably due to ship one.
In 3 mins...
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Where have all the Albion supporters gone?
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Where have all the Albion supporters gone?
I don't think there really are many of them. Their post-match thread has just huffed and puffed to a third page.
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Quiet ay they?
And I think Facebook must have bost in the Black Country - it's very quiet on there
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The gobby young fuckers in our pub were puzzled once again.
All mouth about how great they are and how crap we are, how they are going to destroy us etc etc.
They go on about it so much they convince themselves, then when it doesn't pan out that way they are really rather stumped.
They leapt around like monkeys for their goals, I managed to restrain myself to a glance and knowing nod in their direction when we scored. They hated it.
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The gobby young fuckers in our pub were puzzled once again.
All mouth about how great they are and how crap we are, how they are going to destroy us etc etc.
They go on about it so much they convince themselves, then when it doesn't pan out that way they are really rather stumped.
They leapt around like monkeys for their goals, I managed to restrain myself to a glance and knowing nod in their direction when we scored. They hated it.
Absolutely love it.
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The gobby young fuckers in our pub were puzzled once again.
All mouth about how great they are and how crap we are, how they are going to destroy us etc etc.
They go on about it so much they convince themselves, then when it doesn't pan out that way they are really rather stumped.
They leapt around like monkeys for their goals, I managed to restrain myself to a glance and knowing nod in their direction when we scored. They hated it.
Absolutely love it.
Seconded. Great reaction.
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The gobby young fuckers in our pub were puzzled once again.
All mouth about how great they are and how crap we are, how they are going to destroy us etc etc.
They go on about it so much they convince themselves, then when it doesn't pan out that way they are really rather stumped.
They leapt around like monkeys for their goals, I managed to restrain myself to a glance and knowing nod in their direction when we scored. They hated it.
Did you point out that they didn't need to be watching their big game from the pub as there seemed to be plenty of spare seats in their stands.
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I might pop on their board later to check that they're all right.
I think they lost a few to broken hearts last night, a shame really but that's the problem when you start believing your own hype.
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They were 80 minutes from bringing out another dvd.
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They were 80 minutes from bringing out another dvd.
Still might, that's the best 10 minutes they are likely to have. A few interviews thrown in and you have a DVD. Could even put 2-0 on the front
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They were 80 minutes from bringing out another dvd.
Still might, that's the best 10 minutes they are likely to have. A few interviews thrown in and you have a DVD. Could even put 2-0 on the front
When did they start caring about us more than they do the Dogheads? I seem to re-call 1988-2012 they were obsessed by the Wolfs.
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They were 80 minutes from bringing out another dvd.
Still might, that's the best 10 minutes they are likely to have. A few interviews thrown in and you have a DVD. Could even put 2-0 on the front
When did they start caring about us more than they do the Dogheads? I seem to re-call 1988-2012 they were obsessed by the Wolfs.
When they realised "what they are" I suppose.
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The gobby young fuckers in our pub were puzzled once again.
All mouth about how great they are and how crap we are, how they are going to destroy us etc etc.
They go on about it so much they convince themselves, then when it doesn't pan out that way they are really rather stumped.
They leapt around like monkeys for their goals, I managed to restrain myself to a glance and knowing nod in their direction when we scored. They hated it.
When they scored about 3 people in my local went mad, and I figured there were just a lot of neutrals in or something. Once Villa equalised the whole place went fucking nuts and there were chairs being thrown and beer everywhere. I had a very good time.
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Where have all the Albion supporters gone?
I don't think there really are many of them. Their post-match thread has just huffed and puffed to a third page.
Difficult to post on a thread as reading and writing is a major issue in Smethwick.
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They were 80 minutes from bringing out another dvd.
Still might, that's the best 10 minutes they are likely to have. A few interviews thrown in and you have a DVD. Could even put 2-0 on the front
When did they start caring about us more than they do the Dogheads? I seem to re-call 1988-2012 they were obsessed by the Wolfs.
From when they were founded. Their Wolves rivalry is a relatively modern development.
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They were 80 minutes from bringing out another dvd.
Still might, that's the best 10 minutes they are likely to have. A few interviews thrown in and you have a DVD. Could even put 2-0 on the front
When did they start caring about us more than they do the Dogheads? I seem to re-call 1988-2012 they were obsessed by the Wolfs.
From when they were founded. Their Wolves rivalry is a relatively modern development.
A hatred of convenience, if you like.
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The gobby young fuckers in our pub were puzzled once again.
All mouth about how great they are and how crap we are, how they are going to destroy us etc etc.
They go on about it so much they convince themselves, then when it doesn't pan out that way they are really rather stumped.
They leapt around like monkeys for their goals, I managed to restrain myself to a glance and knowing nod in their direction when we scored. They hated it.
Did you point out that they didn't need to be watching their big game from the pub as there seemed to be plenty of spare seats in their stands.
Ha ha, that would've been awesome. My rapid wit picks out the appropriate retort about 20 mins after the event on average. 24k for a floodlit derby makes Birmingham's 14k at the weekend seem more impressive now. Perhaps he could have mentioned Wolves had 19k against Brentford on Saturday. You are what you are.
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Where have all the Albion supporters gone?
Got home last night and went to bed.
Been at work all day and haven't had chance to post on our forum until now.
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I think that was more aimed at some of the morons from late last week.
A question for you though. One of your lot who goes home and away said to me yesterday that the gloss was taken off last season by your failure to beat us.
That isnt intended to take the piss, or be a loaded question, but is that a fair representation of feeling amongst your mob who go regularly?
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I think that was more aimed at some of the morons from late last week.
A question for you though. One of your lot who goes home and away said to me yesterday that the gloss was taken off last season by your failure to beat us.
That isnt intended to take the piss, or be a loaded question, but is that a fair representation of feeling amongst your mob who go regularly?
I don't share that view, however, beating you would have added to what was a very good season for us.
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When did they start caring about us more than they do the Dogheads? I seem to re-call 1988-2012 they were obsessed by the Wolfs.
Villa vs Albion has always traditionally been the Midlands Derby.
It was only after we sold our best assets, suffered financial mismanagement that our derby with Wolves was born as the fixture became more regular.
Here is a blog which best sums up the situation: http://coachdaveblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-two-big-wba-rivalries.html
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Good piece, that - well written, well argued and not unduly negative. I enjoyed that. Thanks, Liam.
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Decent article.
And as for 'hate', is it healthier not to hate anyone, whether it be Wolves, Villa or Albion? Banter yes, rivalry yes, dislike even, yes. But hate? It's a sad individual who defines their love of them self or their club by how much they hate another.
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Liam, another question if I could.
At some point me and the chap in question will talk again but, he isnt in the mindset for a sensible debate at the moment, and I am not there to goad him.
He did get his retaliation in early yesterday about attendances though. He justified why you didnt sell out before I opened my mouth.
The justification was Monday night, on the telly and 42 quid. Sounds reasonable. BUT then said:
"For a start, you woudnt sell them in the same circs" and then "and anyway, how are people to make it from further away considering the kick off time?"
In part I agree. But those travelling a distance wqould likely be committed to a ticket anyway and I cant see 2K walk up business from the Shires.
I dont pretend to know your support at a geographical level however. Does that argument hold water?
I think not but want to play fair if you can throw some light on it.
PS Apologies for being a pain. You seem a reasonable chap and I hope you can appreciate I am not doing this to take shots at you.
All the best for the rest of the season. I hope you get a good hiding in February mind!
Ta again.
Stu
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I think the Baggies have hit their glass ceiling at 25k, but the majority of them don't claim to be a big club.
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. Due to the timing of games, they are therefore unable to make the evening matches which knocks a bit off the attendance - think our supporters club in London has plenty of members who are unable to make night matches, also - they then watch our matches in the Albion pub based in London.
I thought we would have sold out but we tend to have a large element of supporters who have turned into casual supporters. It is much easier and cheaper for them to watch the game with their mates in the sportsman, eating a lovely bit of chicken tikka with a pint, able to have a laugh than to pay £39 to be treated like an animal. I personally wouldn't pay more than £30 to watch a football game and many others feel that way.
Attendances are dropping across the country and that is down to greed from clubs and their insistance on removing fun from the game. In a period where football clubs should be encouraging young kids to come to football matches, we're forcing them away and that's happened at the Albion until we had no choice but to reduce season ticket prices - a rarity in this day and age.
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. Due to the timing of games, they are therefore unable to make the evening matches which knocks a bit off the attendance
Bloody hell, how big is that mini bus? :)
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. Due to the timing of games, they are therefore unable to make the evening matches which knocks a bit off the attendance
Bloody hell, how big is that mini bus? :)
I am no authority on the matter but I am led to believe mini buses are not as big as buses. You're welcome.
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Haha.
I've seen around four of them on match days previously which have traveled from Devon.
Of course, not all of our southern based Baggies travel to the games.
In-fact, whenever I've been down that way, I've tended to see more Albion fans there than I do in West Brom.
Truth be told, I'm thinking of joining them.
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. I've seen around four of them on match days
Thanks, Liam. I have to admire your considerable honesty.
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. I've seen around four of them on match days
Thanks, Liam. I have to admire your considerable honesty.
I suggest that's stretching considerably the word considerable - maybe a few would be more apt?
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. Due to the timing of games, they are therefore unable to make the evening matches which knocks a bit off the attendance
Bloody hell, how big is that mini bus? :)
It's an Airbus A380.
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. Due to the timing of games, they are therefore unable to make the evening matches which knocks a bit off the attendance
Bloody hell, how big is that mini bus? :)
It's an Airbus A380.
More like a clapped out ford escort :)
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. I've seen around four of them on match days
Thanks, Liam. I have to admire your considerable honesty.
I suggest that's stretching considerably the word considerable - maybe a few would be more apt?
Considerable. I'd say approximately 100 - some of whom travel, some of who don't - unsure of the numbers in London if I'm being honest.
As I aluded to earlier in my posts, we have a large number of casual supporters, too, which will explain empty seats.
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch mini buses to our home games. Due to the timing of games, they are therefore unable to make the evening matches which knocks a bit off the attendance - think our supporters club in London has plenty of members who are unable to make night matches, also - they then watch our matches in the Albion pub based in London.
I thought we would have sold out but we tend to have a large element of supporters who have turned into casual supporters. It is much easier and cheaper for them to watch the game with their mates in the sportsman, eating a lovely bit of chicken tikka with a pint, able to have a laugh than to pay £39 to be treated like an animal. I personally wouldn't pay more than £30 to watch a football game and many others feel that way.
Attendances are dropping across the country and that is down to greed from clubs and their insistance on removing fun from the game. In a period where football clubs should be encouraging young kids to come to football matches, we're forcing them away and that's happened at the Albion until we had no choice but to reduce season ticket prices - a rarity in this day and age.
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We have a considerable number of supporters who are based in Devon. They catch a mini bus to our home games. I've seen around four of them on match days
Thanks, Liam. I have to admire your considerable honesty.
I suggest that's stretching considerably the word considerable - maybe a few would be more apt?
Considerable. I'd say approximately 100 - some of whom travel, some of who don't - unsure of the numbers in London if I'm being honest.
As I aluded to earlier in my posts, we have a large number of casual supporters, too, which will explain empty seats.
In all fairness, fair play to anyone travelling that distance to watch their team .
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When did they start caring about us more than they do the Dogheads? I seem to re-call 1988-2012 they were obsessed by the Wolfs.
Villa vs Albion has always traditionally been the Midlands Derby.
It was only after we sold our best assets, suffered financial mismanagement that our derby with Wolves was born as the fixture became more regular.
Here is a blog which best sums up the situation: http://coachdaveblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/the-two-big-wba-rivalries.html
Good article.
however, I must pull you up over one point.
We really don't care if you finish above us, we do not have it in a list of achievements. We 'expect' it. That's the difference. There are times, such as now, when we aren't the leading team. But we, mostly I think, see that as a blip onthe bigger picture. which is to be vying for top 6 spots again. It may not happen ina very long time and if so, and if you stick around, then the derby against you will take on more significance.
If, and when, we do get it right being top dogs, or pride of the midlands isn't something we'll sing about it. Its just something we do.
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That's the funniest thing about that song.
They'll sing that against Man U, Liverpool, Everton or whoever and I'm sure fans of those clubs -like the rest of the footballing world- couldn't give a shit. Who, outside of Olbiyun fans or B-lose when they manage it (very) rarely honestly cares.
It's not as if being top dog in the Midlands at any given time is indicative of being a good side, that the amount of thoroughbreads in the area raises the quality levels. We've had some truly horrific sides in the past and still been the best in the region.
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I don't think it helps the Albion or the Noses for that matter having us 4 miles to the east and west respectively.
You will find plenty of Villa fans in areas such as Halesowen where the split is probably 50/50. Further afield, you will get a good number of Villa fans in Stourbridge. This isn't reflected though an equal mileage the otherway into Brum, where places lile Sutton and Erdington must easily be 75% plus Villa.
Its the same with the Noses; plenty of Villa Solihull way, but anything west of Yardley and you're struggling to spot a Nose.
That map provided by travel West Midlands showing the footprint of support was evidence of this; in essence there was a strong Villa pressence just about everywhere, with Albion and SHA being localised.
It creates a phenomena of having two clubs in Albion and SHA who reside in large population centres, but actually draw on support on a similar level to the smaller towns in the North West.
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From the blog Liam linked to: "Only three miles separates the two grounds. But culturally it's like two different countries. The stereotype suggests Black Country folk on the whole are down to earth, simple and humble people. Brummies are sometimes brasher, louder and boastful."
Do these stereotypes really exist? If so that's hilarious. And if not that's hilarious.
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however, I must pull you up over one point.
We really don't care if you finish above us, we do not have it in a list of achievements. We 'expect' it. That's the difference.
Bingo. Absolutely spot on, I think that's the major differing factor between us and Albion and Blues.
Finished above us the last two years. Honestly, is it that big a deal for them? Is that anything to really crow about?
Finished 8th and 10th the last two seasons, and they consider that doing "very well", whereas for us, it'd be seen as mediocre.
Then there's the whole "you've fallen on hard times" thing which they spin out from that. Fallen on hard times, but still not fallen anything like hard enough to get relegated in the last quarter of a century.
As I said before, I don't really care too much about Albion, I don't have an axe to grind with them, as I've met about five Albion fans in the 45 years I've been on the planet - 30 of which have been spent living in, or around, Birmingham.
I do, though, find some of the stuff they have come out with over the last couple of years to be both hilarious and perplexing in equal measures.
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From the blog Liam linked to: "Only three miles separates the two grounds. But culturally it's like two different countries. The stereotype suggests Black Country folk on the whole are down to earth, simple and humble people. Brummies are sometimes brasher, louder and boastful."
Do these stereotypes really exist? If so that's hilarious. And if not that's hilarious.
The Brummies I talk to are generally quite loud so I would imagine that's right.
I see Black Country folk as your folk that sit in the corner of the pub with your pork scratchings reading the paper. Your Birmingham folk are those in the night club chatting up the women.
Shite analogy, but something like that. :D
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From the blog Liam linked to: "Only three miles separates the two grounds. But culturally it's like two different countries. The stereotype suggests Black Country folk on the whole are down to earth, simple and humble people. Brummies are sometimes brasher, louder and boastful."
Do these stereotypes really exist? If so that's hilarious. And if not that's hilarious.
The Brummies I talk to are generally quite loud so I would imagine that's right.
I see Black Country folk as your folk that sit in the corner of the pub with your pork scratchings reading the paper. Your Birmingham folk are those in the night club chatting up the women.
Shite analogy, but something like that. :D
Not so humble that they wouldn't eat my pork scratchings then!
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Bingo. Absolutely spot on, I think that's the major differing factor between us and Albion and Blues.
Finished above us the last two years. Honestly, is it that big a deal for them? Is that anything to really crow about?
Finished 8th and 10th the last two seasons, and they consider that doing "very well", whereas for us, it'd be seen as mediocre.
Then there's the whole "you've fallen on hard times" thing which they spin out from that. Fallen on hard times, but still not fallen anything like hard enough to get relegated in the last quarter of a century.
It's something no matter how many times it gets explained you will never understand it.
We've lived having to suffer your arrogance, the looking down on us and forever letting us know just how "small" we are and how "big" you are.
It means something to us because it is hilarious watching the big brother of the region finally being knocked off their perch. You have a good history and your expectations are naturally much higher than ours, but we'll laugh at seeing your side fail to meet your high expectations which lets be honest - may, at times, be slightly over the top.
If you would have had the school days that I had, just maybe, just maybe, you might understand. We're obsessed with our club - but we'll take great delight in watching you fail because we've had your successes rammed down our throats for years on end.
Unless you're an Albion fan or a bluenose you'll never understand it - you'll just claim we're small time and obsessed until you're blue in the face
That's fine by me, carry on.
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Bingo. Absolutely spot on, I think that's the major differing factor between us and Albion and Blues.
Finished above us the last two years. Honestly, is it that big a deal for them? Is that anything to really crow about?
Finished 8th and 10th the last two seasons, and they consider that doing "very well", whereas for us, it'd be seen as mediocre.
Then there's the whole "you've fallen on hard times" thing which they spin out from that. Fallen on hard times, but still not fallen anything like hard enough to get relegated in the last quarter of a century.
It's something no matter how many times it gets explained you will never understand it.
We've lived having to suffer your arrogance, the looking down on us and forever letting us know just how "small" we are and how "big" you are.
It means something to us because it is hilarious watching the big brother of the region finally being knocked off their perch. You have a good history and your expectations are naturally much higher than ours, but we'll laugh at seeing your side fail to meet your high expectations which lets be honest - may, at times, be slightly over the top.
If you would have had the school days that I had, just maybe, just maybe, you might understand. We're obsessed with our club - but we'll take great delight in watching you fail because we've had your successes rammed down our throats for years on end.
Unless you're an Albion fan or a bluenose you'll never understand it - you'll just claim we're small time and obsessed until you're blue in the face
That's fine by me, carry on.
And you'll carry on being the same smalltime, sanctimonious nonentities you always have been. You call us arrogant, then throw a party when you're eleventh in the league after twelve games. You reckon you're on the way to glory, but we've got as many points as you and we're apparently struggling. You say you'll delight in our failure (no obsession there, oh no), when it's still what you'd call success. You come on here and reckon you're laughing at us. I know who's laughing the loudest.
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Well you can't say we will never get you, then try to explain to us what we're like. its quite simple, you won't get us either. we don't like to lose to you and get that you derive so much pleasure from us not doing well, but I'm sorry if its arrogant but you are an insignificance to us. that's the reality. You clearly don't like that. we've hadour success rammed down our throats as well. That's why we're desperate to see us there again. We've been to the very top in most of our lifetimes. I really couldn't care less about getting you, you can be happy getting each other whilst big brother dusts himself down again and goes out after the tasty birds whilst you can use our fake 18 year-old's student card to get into Pagoda Park.
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And you'll carry on being the same smalltime, sanctimonious nonentities you always have been. You call us arrogant, then throw a party when you're eleventh in the league after twelve games. You reckon you're on the way to glory, but we've got as many points as you and we're apparently struggling. You say you'll delight in our failure (no obsession there, oh no), when it's still what you'd call success. You come on here and reckon you're laughing at us. I know who's laughing the loudest.
And here comes Dave to prove my point.
Your comment about throwing a party when being 11th in the league after twelve games is pure hyperbole with the intentions of trying to make us look petty and small time. That will not wash with me. What we're achieving at the moment and the money we've spent in today's footballing world is for us a success and something we're proud of - we've laid down a model for football clubs to follow - like Swansea have for example.
I have also heard very little from Albion fans or myself talking about glory. We'll be happy finishing anywhere between 8th and 12th. Realistically we can go no higher as our funds do not allow us to stretch that far without outside investment - but according to Lambert, the mighty big club cannot compete with us in the transfer market, as he eluded to earlier in the week so you will be fighting for roughly the same spots. Villa, whilst going with the young kids approach are always going to be a hovering over that trap door in my opinion until they have got the necessary experience to know what is required at this level - last season would have helped a great deal and survival this season will again be another great learning curve.
And as for your final point, I'm not laughing at you, or any other Villa fan.
Well you can't say we will never get you, then try to explain to us what we're like. its quite simple, you won't get us either. we don't like to lose to you and get that you derive so much pleasure from us not doing well, but I'm sorry if its arrogant but you are an insignificance to us. that's the reality. You clearly don't like that. we've hadour success rammed down our throats as well. That's why we're desperate to see us there again. We've been to the very top in most of our lifetimes. I really couldn't care less about getting you, you can be happy getting each other whilst big brother dusts himself down again and goes out after the tasty birds whilst you can use our fake 18 year-old's student card to get into Pagoda Park.
I don't mind your success - well done to you. You have earned them on merit.
What I don't like is when we have to have it shoved in our faces - that is where the annoyance on our part comes into play.
You should over take us in the not to distant future. We all expect it. And if you do, well done - it's finally great to see some competition in Midlands Football.
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Bingo. Absolutely spot on, I think that's the major differing factor between us and Albion and Blues.
Finished above us the last two years. Honestly, is it that big a deal for them? Is that anything to really crow about?
Finished 8th and 10th the last two seasons, and they consider that doing "very well", whereas for us, it'd be seen as mediocre.
Then there's the whole "you've fallen on hard times" thing which they spin out from that. Fallen on hard times, but still not fallen anything like hard enough to get relegated in the last quarter of a century.
It's something no matter how many times it gets explained you will never understand it.
We've lived having to suffer your arrogance, the looking down on us and forever letting us know just how "small" we are and how "big" you are.
It means something to us because it is hilarious watching the big brother of the region finally being knocked off their perch. You have a good history and your expectations are naturally much higher than ours, but we'll laugh at seeing your side fail to meet your high expectations which lets be honest - may, at times, be slightly over the top.
If you would have had the school days that I had, just maybe, just maybe, you might understand. We're obsessed with our club - but we'll take great delight in watching you fail because we've had your successes rammed down our throats for years on end.
Unless you're an Albion fan or a bluenose you'll never understand it - you'll just claim we're small time and obsessed until you're blue in the face
That's fine by me, carry on.
That's all well and good, but it'll take more than finishing above us twice to "knock us off our perch".
As for being small time and obsessed, aren't you kind of proving the point by the posting of this "boo hoo, I didn't like having your success rammed down my throat when I was a kid" nonsense on a Villa forum?
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Your comment about throwing a party when being 11th in the league after twelve games is pure hyperbole with the intentions of trying to make us look petty and small time. That will not wash with me. What we're achieving at the moment and the money we've spent in today's footballing world is for us a success and something we're proud of - we've laid down a model for football clubs to follow - like Swansea have for example.
And that proves the point.
"What we've achieved" - you've finished above us twice and are currently 11th to our 12th.
How low does your self esteem have to be to consider that an "achievement" of any kind?
You keep going on about what we "don't get", but that's what you're not getting. It's not an achievement to finish mid table for us, that's why we're unimpressed and find it amusing that you're getting so excited about it.
I'm also interested to see you suggesting Swansea have "followed your model". This is your fourth consecutive season in the top flight, in which you've finished 11th, 10th and 8th.
Let's be honest, that's not really an amazing model for anyone to follow, is it? You've managed to stay up and remain around mid table, largely based on a policy of being tight and borrowing players from other sides. It's not exactly an amazingly progressive piece of football management.
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Sorry, I must have imagined the DVD for winning a league game, the We Know What We Are banner, "We'll take great delight in watching you fail" and best of all, you reckoning that you're going to be safely mid-table while we'll be fighting relegation. Still, as you said, you're only a little club. You're doing ever so well. What was that about petty and smalltime?
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I think you'll find you are copying the Swansea model rather than you leading the way and they copy you. But it's only us that are arrogant.........
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Sorry, I must have imagined the DVD for winning a league game, the We Know What We Are banner, "We'll take great delight in watching you fail" and best of all, you reckoning that you're going to be safely mid-table while we'll be fighting relegation. Still, as you said, you're only a little club. You're doing ever so well.
I think the official title is the "We Know What We Are Banner, sponsored by Zoopla".
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZxBWPXIUAAUAL5.jpg)
Incredibly small time.
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Your comment about throwing a party when being 11th in the league after twelve games is pure hyperbole with the intentions of trying to make us look petty and small time. That will not wash with me. What we're achieving at the moment and the money we've spent in today's footballing world is for us a success and something we're proud of - we've laid down a model for football clubs to follow - like Swansea have for example.
And that proves the point.
"What we've achieved" - you've finished above us twice and are currently 11th to our 12th.
How low does your self esteem have to be to consider that an "achievement" of any kind?
You keep going on about what we "don't get", but that's what you're not getting. It's not an achievement to finish mid table for us, that's why we're unimpressed and find it amusing that you're getting so excited about it.
I'm also interested to see you suggesting Swansea have "followed your model". This is your fourth consecutive season in the top flight, in which you've finished 11th, 10th and 8th.
Let's be honest, that's not really an amazing model for anyone to follow, is it? You've managed to stay up and remain around mid table, largely based on a policy of being tight and borrowing players from other sides. It's not exactly an amazingly progressive piece of football management.
The achieving part is in reference to us being able to compete in the Premier League with the director of football approach whilst running a prudent business, spending within our means and not running up huge amounts of losses like others clubs do in division.
That in my opinion, is a success for in modern football and one championship clubs, similar to ourselves should look to follow. We've proven that to enjoy "success" in this division, you don't have to spend insane amount of millions to achieve it.
Sorry, I must have imagined the DVD for winning a league game, the We Know What We Are banner, "We'll take great delight in watching you fail" and best of all, you reckoning that you're going to be safely mid-table while we'll be fighting relegation. Still, as you said, you're only a little club. You're doing ever so well. What was that about petty and smalltime?
The DVD from the club was pathetic - I will admit that - very small time - you will never see me deny that - the banner which you're referring to I believe was donated to us by our club sponsors Zoopla - hence as a marketing ploy they shoved their name all over it.
I think you'll find you are copying the Swansea model rather than you leading the way and they copy you. But it's only us that are arrogant.........
We operate with similar models - not spending vast amounts of money - we just have the technical director in place to run other facets of the club whereas Swansea rely heavily on good scouting - again, in this modern world, they're another success.
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In response to Pauliewalnuts - I've posted my views on the game and answered the questions which were asked by Villa fans in this topic.
I would much rather answer them than be ignorant and ignore them.
And then I answered the questions in your post - whether they were rhetorical or not.
I get the feeling you and Dave don't like us very much - as least Legion was nice to me! ;D
Anyway, I'm off to bed guys.
You have a good forum here. Take care of yourselves and I shall see you in January.
Best wishes,
Liam.
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The achieving part is in reference to us being able to compete in the Premier League with the director of football approach whilst running a prudent business, spending within our means and not running up huge amounts of losses like others clubs do in division.
"Compete in the PL" = "stay in the premier league". For all of three seasons thus far.
Can't you see why we find this sort of thing so ridiculous?
Good on you for getting back into the top flight again, good on you for staying in it for three seasons, and I am glad you're not saddled with huge debts like a lot of clubs.
But the point at which we say "hold on a minute" is when you start spinning it as us being "knocked off our perch" and crowing about how we haven't beaten you in any of the last six meetings, as if that's something remarkable.
We had the same thing from Small Heath about ten years ago, and that turned out to be utter bollocks too (all this "the balance of power has shifted" nonsense), but if anything, this from your lot at the current time is even more in the realm of fantasy than it was when we heard it from Small Heath - a club even smaller than Albion.
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We're obsessed with your club.
Fixed.
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Anyway, I'm off to bed guys.
Slag.
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Anyway, I'm off to bed guys.
Slag.
With his brother.
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Liam ...
I look at the clubs above us league table and it sticks in my craw to see where Everton and Tottenham are. And they are not even in positions I'd be satisfied to see Villa in. I see where the Albion are and think 'even they are doing ok' without being overly concerned or irate.
That is how much the Albion means to me.It's probably the same for most Villa fans.
Small Heath were saying they had overtaken us and they were actually beating us by clear margins. Whatever happened to them? I'm even old enough to remember Walsall fans saying it. Yeah, right.
By the way, further corrections to that blog - in the 50's and 60's Manchester United were the Manchester United of the day.
West Brom's time as one of the country's leading teams - someone you would actually expect to challenge for trophies or gain high league position - did not extend into the 60's. Ditto Wolves.
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Love the Villa arrogance bit ! jesus as a kid we got relegated to the third division , oh even as a young child I remember how the locals spawned their bile and hate , I was new to Brum . My best mate was a Villa fan he took shit loads , so after the Portsmouth game which I think sealed relegation , I was Villa .
I had many years of people trying to change my belief but after the 71 cup final , there is something that you cannot put your finger on about Aston Villa . but arrogance is not one of them .
Pride.
you lot deal with that any way you fancy . I can honestly say if we were in Div 4 we would still get more attention than other west midland clubs who have the so what ! value
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the " we have had it rammed down our throats" quote has been around for a long time and often given as the basis of hatred of us.
Lets face it, it is not our fault that Small Heath and Olbyon are pretty piss poor examples of football clubs, neither can get more than 25,000 people to even turn up.
I feel sorry for them (Stripeys) , they have put themselves in the same category as Small Heath. ah
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The flaw in the argument is that we had the same from Coventry, and even Leicester, who aren't actually near enough to "have it rammed down their throats". Kids is Coventry and Leicester didn't grow up tormented by arrogant Villa fans in the playground surely? Yet the same bile, and disproportionate crowing at minor victories comes from all corners of the midlands.
It's imagined by opposition fans - "that Aston Villa think they're something special". Thats not because we go on about it, it's because we are. As I write that I know it sounds arrogant, but the truth is, we live with that level of expectation too, there is nothing us or you can do about it.
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I'm not sure why Liam's description is that hard to understand, possibly because I come from the middle of no-where where most people (probably 75%) of fans support Man U. Therefore I'm in the minority and have to endure the smugness/arrogance from man u fans the whole time, kind of like what Liam has described.
…And if we had a 2-3 year period of finishing above man u I'd love it, even if the two clubs were finishing say 6th and 7th respectively (i.e. not "successful" by any stretch).
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Two things from that blog. Firstly, it is over 1,000 days since we beat them. That made me smile, I bet he knows the exact amount of days too. Secondly, at the moment and for the foreseeable future is is THE local derby. The only local derby.
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Bingo. Absolutely spot on, I think that's the major differing factor between us and Albion and Blues.
Finished above us the last two years. Honestly, is it that big a deal for them? Is that anything to really crow about?
Finished 8th and 10th the last two seasons, and they consider that doing "very well", whereas for us, it'd be seen as mediocre.
Then there's the whole "you've fallen on hard times" thing which they spin out from that. Fallen on hard times, but still not fallen anything like hard enough to get relegated in the last quarter of a century.
It's something no matter how many times it gets explained you will never understand it.
We've lived having to suffer your arrogance, the looking down on us and forever letting us know just how "small" we are and how "big" you are.
It means something to us because it is hilarious watching the big brother of the region finally being knocked off their perch. You have a good history and your expectations are naturally much higher than ours, but we'll laugh at seeing your side fail to meet your high expectations which lets be honest - may, at times, be slightly over the top.
If you would have had the school days that I had, just maybe, just maybe, you might understand. We're obsessed with our club - but we'll take great delight in watching you fail because we've had your successes rammed down our throats for years on end.
Unless you're an Albion fan or a bluenose you'll never understand it - you'll just claim we're small time and obsessed until you're blue in the face
That's fine by me, carry on.
It's not our fault you're mostly shit.
Whoever tagged them 'bitters' wasn't wrong.
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Liam, do you know if there will there be a DVD released of the first 11 minutes of the Villa game?
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One of them said yesterday that they would be happy as long as they have 20 points by Christmas as that should see them safe.
It seems they went from Brazil 1970 to Barnsley 1998 in the space of half an hour the other night.
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I've just read Liam's blog and it started out as if it could have been an interesting insight into local derbies. He spoilt it predictably by slipping in sly digs at us and Wolves. It all came across as rather bitter in the end.
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I'm not sure why Liam's description is that hard to understand, possibly because I come from the middle of no-where where most people (probably 75%) of fans support Man U. Therefore I'm in the minority and have to endure the smugness/arrogance from man u fans the whole time, kind of like what Liam has described.
…And if we had a 2-3 year period of finishing above man u I'd love it, even if the two clubs were finishing say 6th and 7th respectively (i.e. not "successful" by any stretch).
Agreed Dante. Reading some of the postings on here made me think exactly the same with some of the comments that so-called "fans" of Man U and Liverpool come out with.
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Bingo. Absolutely spot on, I think that's the major differing factor between us and Albion and Blues.
Finished above us the last two years. Honestly, is it that big a deal for them? Is that anything to really crow about?
Finished 8th and 10th the last two seasons, and they consider that doing "very well", whereas for us, it'd be seen as mediocre.
Then there's the whole "you've fallen on hard times" thing which they spin out from that. Fallen on hard times, but still not fallen anything like hard enough to get relegated in the last quarter of a century.
It's something no matter how many times it gets explained you will never understand it.
We've lived having to suffer your arrogance, the looking down on us and forever letting us know just how "small" we are and how "big" you are.
It means something to us because it is hilarious watching the big brother of the region finally being knocked off their perch. You have a good history and your expectations are naturally much higher than ours, but we'll laugh at seeing your side fail to meet your high expectations which lets be honest - may, at times, be slightly over the top.
If you would have had the school days that I had, just maybe, just maybe, you might understand. We're obsessed with our club - but we'll take great delight in watching you fail because we've had your successes rammed down our throats for years on end.
Unless you're an Albion fan or a bluenose you'll never understand it - you'll just claim we're small time and obsessed until you're blue in the face
That's fine by me, carry on.
And you'll carry on being the same smalltime, sanctimonious nonentities you always have been. You call us arrogant, then throw a party when you're eleventh in the league after twelve games. You reckon you're on the way to glory, but we've got as many points as you and we're apparently struggling. You say you'll delight in our failure (no obsession there, oh no), when it's still what you'd call success. You come on here and reckon you're laughing at us. I know who's laughing the loudest.
you took all that from his post? deary me ::)
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I'm not sure why Liam's description is that hard to understand, possibly because I come from the middle of no-where where most people (probably 75%) of fans support Man U. Therefore I'm in the minority and have to endure the smugness/arrogance from man u fans the whole time, kind of like what Liam has described.
…And if we had a 2-3 year period of finishing above man u I'd love it, even if the two clubs were finishing say 6th and 7th respectively (i.e. not "successful" by any stretch).
Agreed Dante. Reading some of the postings on here made me think exactly the same with some of the comments that so-called "fans" of Man U and Liverpool come out with.
If I went onto another club's forum and said what that lot have said I'd expect to get ripped to bits as well.
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I'm not sure why Liam's description is that hard to understand, possibly because I come from the middle of no-where where most people (probably 75%) of fans support Man U. Therefore I'm in the minority and have to endure the smugness/arrogance from man u fans the whole time, kind of like what Liam has described.
…And if we had a 2-3 year period of finishing above man u I'd love it, even if the two clubs were finishing say 6th and 7th respectively (i.e. not "successful" by any stretch).
Totally different. The reason that most of the people near you are Man United fans is because they're glory hunters, pure and simple. I'd love nothing more than to gloat to some Watford-based Man United fan who's never set foot in Old Trafford. I'm not sure you could ever accuse a Villa fan of being a glory hunter. Misery hunter, maybe.
And another thing, I never ever remember gloating and being arrogant to Albion fans when they were shit and bumping around in the lower divisions. But suddenly, they have 2 better seasons than us ( the 2 worst seasons we've had for decades, incidentally) and people I know who haven't been down the Albion for years are suddenly rushing out of the woodwork and acting like they've been loyal fans since the dark days. And they take the piss out of Wolves fans for doing exactly the same. They've got a chip on their shoulder and we're the convenient scapegoat. Fuck em! call us arrogant while they're waving a Pride of the Midlands banner after enjoying 2 mid-table finishes. You couldn't make it up.
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I'm not sure why Liam's description is that hard to understand, possibly because I come from the middle of no-where where most people (probably 75%) of fans support Man U. Therefore I'm in the minority and have to endure the smugness/arrogance from man u fans the whole time, kind of like what Liam has described.
…And if we had a 2-3 year period of finishing above man u I'd love it, even if the two clubs were finishing say 6th and 7th respectively (i.e. not "successful" by any stretch).
They've got a chip on their shoulder and we're the convenient scapegoat. Fuck em! call us arrogant while they're waving a Pride of the Midlands banner after enjoying 2 mid-table finishes. You couldn't make it up.
Chico's last three lines have summed it up better than I ever could.
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But suddenly, they have 2 better seasons than us ( the 2 worst seasons we've had for decades, incidentally) and people I know who haven't been down the Albion for years are suddenly rushing out of the woodwork and acting like they've been loyal fans since the dark days.
Obviously not that many of them, mind, given that they only managed to sell 21k tickets for their cup final this week.
I am aware we're no strangers to empty seats, but the difference is, we don't play in a poxy little 27k capacity stadium.
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But suddenly, they have 2 better seasons than us ( the 2 worst seasons we've had for decades, incidentally) and people I know who haven't been down the Albion for years are suddenly rushing out of the woodwork and acting like they've been loyal fans since the dark days.
Obviously not that many of them, mind, given that they only managed to sell 21k tickets for their cup final this week.
I am aware we're no strangers to empty seats, but the difference is, we don't play in a poxy little 27k capacity stadium.
and we're not currently in our most successful spell for over 30years, quite the opposite in fact.
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While queueing to get into the Arena HawthornAmazonia on Monday I enjoyed some jolly banter with a steward. I'm now far wiser by knowing that 'it's not our cup final as we're above you' and ' if wolves are bigger than us then blues are bigger than you'.
I have to say though their celebrations for the goals were reminiscent of the blues crowd at the Enklemen game and it wouldn't have been very pleasant had it carried on. It made the comeback more enjoyable.
Nice try Albion, have a pat on the head.
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I've just browsed their post-match thread, and this caught my eye:
"All in all, it was there night, but we remain unbeaten in 6 against them (when they last beat us One Direction weren't even a band to put it into context) and we look forward to doing it all again in January"
Where do you start with that?
We Know What You Are.
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I've just browsed their post-match thread, and this caught my eye:
"All in all, it was there night, but we remain unbeaten in 6 against them (when they last beat us One Direction weren't even a band to put it into context) and we look forward to doing it all again in January"
Yes, I noticed that one, too.
That's pretty remarkable.
It's like saying, "to put it into context, the last time Man United beat us, twerking hadn't even been invented"
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"All in all, it was there night, but we remain unbeaten in 6 against them (when they last beat us One Direction weren't even a band to put it into context) and we look forward to doing it all again in January"
The last time they won anything, Showaddywaddy wasn't even a band.
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I've just browsed their post-match thread, and this caught my eye:
"All in all, it was there night, but we remain unbeaten in 6 against them (when they last beat us One Direction weren't even a band to put it into context) and we look forward to doing it all again in January"
Where do you start with that?
We Know What You Are.
The last time the Baggies won anything, the Beatles were still 6 months away from releasing the White Album
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Just like to say fair play to Liam for not reacting to some of the comments aimed at him. I couldn't give a toss what an Albion fan thinks of Aston Villa and i'd expect them to feel the same re my thoughts on their club.
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I've just browsed their post-match thread, and this caught my eye:
"All in all, it was there night, but we remain unbeaten in 6 against them (when they last beat us One Direction weren't even a band to put it into context) and we look forward to doing it all again in January"
Where do you start with that?
We Know What You Are.
That One Direction comment has made my day. Nothing has made my day more since us coming from two goals down about thirty nine hours ago. Just to put it into context.
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It's imagined by opposition fans - "that Aston Villa think they're something special". Thats not because we go on about it, it's because we are. As I write that I know it sounds arrogant, but the truth is, we live with that level of expectation too, there is nothing us or you can do about it
Superb and as accurate as can be, also if the shite that surrounds us wasn't so poor themselves then we would not be considered the "Kings" of the Midlands.
Remember when they had a "great side" in the 80/81 season - they finished 4th in the top English division - brilliant for them
Where did we finish again?
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It's imagined by opposition fans - "that Aston Villa think they're something special". Thats not because we go on about it, it's because we are. As I write that I know it sounds arrogant, but the truth is, we live with that level of expectation too, there is nothing us or you can do about it
Superb and as accurate as can be, also if the shite that surrounds us wasn't so poor themselves then we would not be considered the "Kings" of the Midlands.
Remember when they had a "great side" in the 80/81 season - they finished 4th in the top English division - brilliant for them
Where did we finish again?
nowhere near 4th ;)
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While queueing to get into the Arena HawthornAmazonia on Monday I enjoyed some jolly banter with a steward. I'm now far wiser by knowing that 'it's not our cup final as we're above you' and ' if wolves are bigger than us then blues are bigger than you'.
I have to say though their celebrations for the goals were reminiscent of the blues crowd at the Enklemen game and it wouldn't have been very pleasant had it carried on. It made the comeback more enjoyable.
Nice try Albion, have a pat on the head.
Their fans in the Milleninum Corner were desperate to try and get onto the pitch and come towards us, but lacked the bottle when their second went in.
It was very amusing walking down the aisle at the end past the slack jaws in the Smethwick End doing their nut, as laughed at them.
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"All in all, it was there night, but we remain unbeaten in 6 against them (when they last beat us One Direction weren't even a band to put it into context) and we look forward to doing it all again in January"
That is beyond belief! I hope he/she was joking. Actually I hope they weren't come to think of it.
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I'm not sure why Liam's description is that hard to understand, possibly because I come from the middle of no-where where most people (probably 75%) of fans support Man U. Therefore I'm in the minority and have to endure the smugness/arrogance from man u fans the whole time, kind of like what Liam has described.
…And if we had a 2-3 year period of finishing above man u I'd love it, even if the two clubs were finishing say 6th and 7th respectively (i.e. not "successful" by any stretch).
Agreed Dante. Reading some of the postings on here made me think exactly the same with some of the comments that so-called "fans" of Man U and Liverpool come out with.
If I went onto another club's forum and said what that lot have said I'd expect to get ripped to bits as well.
Thats what I thought from the offset. Why come on here and say it? Of course its going to wind people up.
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I'm not sure why Liam's description is that hard to understand, possibly because I come from the middle of no-where where most people (probably 75%) of fans support Man U. Therefore I'm in the minority and have to endure the smugness/arrogance from man u fans the whole time, kind of like what Liam has described.
…And if we had a 2-3 year period of finishing above man u I'd love it, even if the two clubs were finishing say 6th and 7th respectively (i.e. not "successful" by any stretch).
Totally different. The reason that most of the people near you are Man United fans is because they're glory hunters, pure and simple. I'd love nothing more than to gloat to some Watford-based Man United fan who's never set foot in Old Trafford. I'm not sure you could ever accuse a Villa fan of being a glory hunter. Misery hunter, maybe.
And another thing, I never ever remember gloating and being arrogant to Albion fans when they were shit and bumping around in the lower divisions. But suddenly, they have 2 better seasons than us ( the 2 worst seasons we've had for decades, incidentally) and people I know who haven't been down the Albion for years are suddenly rushing out of the woodwork and acting like they've been loyal fans since the dark days. And they take the piss out of Wolves fans for doing exactly the same. They've got a chip on their shoulder and we're the convenient scapegoat. Fuck em! call us arrogant while they're waving a Pride of the Midlands banner after enjoying 2 mid-table finishes. You couldn't make it up.
Relative to supporting WBA, supporting Villa is the easier option in the sense that we'll always be able to reflect in the 'glory' of being in the premier league and occassionally win a cup (well kind of). So it's different, but not completely different in my opinion.
I also think that most man u fans on an individual basis are okay, but in their masses they appear to be arrogant arseholes. I'd guess that villa fans probably come across that way too. Of course we're not arrogant arseholes or glory hunters but can understand that we'd be precieved that way by a Baggies fan.
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The flaw in the argument is that we had the same from Coventry, and even Leicester, who aren't actually near enough to "have it rammed down their throats". Kids is Coventry and Leicester didn't grow up tormented by arrogant Villa fans in the playground surely? Yet the same bile, and disproportionate crowing at minor victories comes from all corners of the midlands.
It's imagined by opposition fans - "that Aston Villa think they're something special". Thats not because we go on about it, it's because we are. As I write that I know it sounds arrogant, but the truth is, we live with that level of expectation too, there is nothing us or you can do about it.
Absolutely. That's the crux of it. They tell us we've rammed it down their throats for years, but have we? The Villa fans I've known have always had a soft spot for Albion, I did a few years back too. I was always happy to see them promoted and it was a shame when they were relegated. I just saw them as a 'nice' club. Nothing patronising, no arrogance about our position in relation to theirs, just a "they seem ok, don't mind them doing well" kind of afterthought. Indeed, I've only ever met one match-going Albion fan.
I'd love to know where are all these Villa fans are who supposedly 'rammed' our successes down their throats? What successes? We've had nothing to crow about ourselves for years and are constantly told by opposing fans, Adrian Chiles Toby Jug of Piss included, that we're the biggest moaners in the Midlands. Make your minds up; are we arrogant, or are we perennial whingers? It's akin to the whole We'm a little club fighting against the world & FA, no wait, Pride of the Midlands We Know What We Am bile. As Dave often says, they appear to want it both ways.
Nice to see Liam's finally showing his true colours after he's got some comments for his tinpot 5-posts-a-day website, though. He really doesn't like us very much...
Traditional Kits for both sides. Albion lining up in their famous Blue and White with the Vile lining up in their Claret and Blue.
Their defeats came against Man City and Chelsea where Villa conceded a total of 13 goals. 8 (eight)(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) of those against Chelsea!
I would go into in-depth detail about their history, but anybody who knows a Villa fan has probably had it explained to them 683059382258 times before and therefore I won't bore us all by posting it and we shall move onto the next topic because the way they go on about it I'm sure we know it just as good as them!
In June 2012, Lambert ended up at Villa Park after Alex McLeish was removed of his duties. His biggest defeat so far came away at Stamford Bridge where Chelsea put EIGHT past "Lambert's Lions".
As for this one...
What I did enjoy about the night was the set of boos at half which could have been heard in London.
I'm pretty sure the half time boos last season passed over the Channel and reached Calais. You were either booing your team and manager off the pitch for the umpteenth time last season, or it was a 45th minute boo to signify the number of years since you'd last won anything. I'm not sure which....
And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.
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I couldn't give a shit about Albion, and wouldn't dream of going on their bitter fan websites. Similarly, I don't go out of my house looking for nests of cockroaches, but if one comes in my house I'll stamp on it. I think that's what's happened here.
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Well said AV and I thoroughly agree. They are the dictionary definition of small time jizz biscuits.
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A further update on the Stripey I have referenced previously. Still not talking to anyone about anything. Not football, not work, nothing.
Outside of enforced conversations with customers he hasnt said a single word since our set to on the train and whilst waiting for it at 4pm Monday.
I know what he is. He takes it seriously. He goes regularly. He bloody hates us. Fair enough.
I find it very fucking funny.
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is being small time really a jibe, I mean is it really that bad
i get told i support a small time team by loads of Man Utd, Chelsea fans etc down here
i always say well if being big time is to be like them, i prefer to just stay the way i am thanks
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Let's be honest they are not alone in hating us around here, the hate from Coventry fans has always amazed me, we are not that close to them. Even the Albion supporting friends and relatives I have who normally try to keep the banter with me civil were absolutely gutted we didn't actually manage to go down in the last 2 years and couldn't hide their feelings. When do you EVER here any anti Albion chanting when Villa are playing other opponents, NEVER, let's keep it that way. It shows what we really think, indifference.
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Why didn't they wear their Mickey Mouse ears?
Or aren't we big enough for them?
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A baggies colleague sent me this text:
"Hi Af,
Hope you are still gloating in the glory of taking a point from the Pride of the Midlands.......
PS Tarquin sent me your details - I immediately deleted the attached photo of some trophy from the distant past......."
The picture is the European cup. I replied:
"yes haven't slept for two nights after us "winning" at the Superstadio de arena del Hawthornia. By the way how did you recognised a football trophy let alone the European Champions Cup?"
I am waiting for a reply!
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Growing up on the Eastern side of Brum, I did not know any Albion fans at school, going to college I met one, who was a pretty nice guy.
I always thought of them as a bit eccentric.
In 74, at the Hawthorns I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and got beat up for my foolishness, I still harboured little ill feeling for them.
Revenge was a given when a warm welcome was extended to the boggies who came Villa Park, by those Villa Fans who decided to pay their monies and stand (or lie in wait) on the witton end for the return game.
How could you take seriously a crew that had one of their main men called Muttley, I ask you !
I became very cross with them when they broke Alex Copley's leg.
They have never been more to me than an irrelevance, oh and Astle loosing the World cup.
Watching the game on the T.V on Monday I was taken back by the level of Vehemence from their moronic looking fans, have they seen the crowd shots?
What is with this, "shit on the Villa, Viiiiiiila, " Malarky ?
They are an irrelevance, move on.
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Stripeyfilth fans are very good at going quiet.
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I see Black Country folk as your folk that sit in the corner of the pub with your pork scratchings reading the paper. Your Birmingham folk are those in the night club chatting up the women.
Hey, I like pork scratchings and reading the paper in the pub, and I don't like night clubs. I must be turning into a Yam Yam in my old age...
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Growing up on the Eastern side of Brum, I did not know any Albion fans at school, going to college I met one, who was a pretty nice guy.
I always thought of them as a bit eccentric.
In 74, at the Hawthorns I was in the wrong place at the wrong time and got beat up for my foolishness, I still harboured little ill feeling for them.
Revenge was a given when a warm welcome was extended to the boggies who came Villa Park, by those Villa Fans who decided to pay their monies and stand (or lie in wait) on the witton end for the return game.
How could you take seriously a crew that had one of their main men called Muttley, I ask you !
I became very cross with them when they broke Alex Copley's leg.
They have never been more to me than an irrelevance, oh and Astle loosing the World cup.
Watching the game on the T.V on Monday I was taken back by the level of Vehemence from their moronic looking fans, have they seen the crowd shots?
What is with this, "shit on the Villa, Viiiiiiila, " Malarky ?
They are an irrelevance, move on.
Having been battered there after the 3-0 in the 80's (4 of us only outnumbered 5 to 1 so fair play Olbiun) I had harboured ill-feeling until I grew up a bit - then they re-appeared and unleashed venom and vehemence in our direction out of any proportion to how we treat them - they remind me of a neglected child desperately screaming for attention.
As for Liam - why not pop into the Holte in January and see how far your reasoned arguments get you...
Right - Sunderland - a team with real Villa history!
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I'm pretty sure the half time boos last season passed over the Channel and reached Calais. You were either booing your team and manager off the pitch for the umpteenth time last season, or it was a 45th minute boo to signify the number of years since you'd last won anything. I'm not sure which....
And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.
You have my respect, sir, and my admiration.
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I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
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I'm pretty sure the half time boos last season passed over the Channel and reached Calais. You were either booing your team and manager off the pitch for the umpteenth time last season, or it was a 45th minute boo to signify the number of years since you'd last won anything. I'm not sure which....
And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.
You have my respect, sir, and my admiration.
I'd completely forgot about them applauding on 8 minutes last season. That just about sums up their silly obsession.
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And as for us referring to you as small time, something that I've noticed is a bit of a bug bear for Albion fans. Well, you are....You did an applause in the eighth minute because a team you're obsessed with got beaten in a league game, you bring out DVDs when you draw and win football matches, you hold anniversary dinners for a team that won a league match at Old Trafford(!!), you sing the name of a former player who couldn't wait to move on from the club, you celebrate your manager being taken by England by holding an England day at your last away game, your sponsors make a banner with We Know What We Are written on it and your fans and players alike hold it aloft. Every song you sing mentions Aston Villa Football Club, your players wear under-layers with WKWWA printed on them, your kit man writes We Know What We Are on footballs and constantly lies to your own supporters about how many fans you're taking to your away games because he's so embarrassed about your shit support. You only take a following to Aston Villa and take a few hundred supporters everywhere else, yet can't sell out at home (for the third season running, I'd hasten to add - what's that about TV, kick-off times and ticket prices?!) in a game your own players describe as being like a 'Champions League' tie. Everything about your club is small time and tinpot. Let's make that abundantly clear.
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Quote from: lovejoy on Today at 08:56:58 AM
I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
Even after the shit he put on his own forum about us? Anyway, he's another perspective from a genuinely decent Stripey.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/another-game-of-three-thirds/
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Quote from: lovejoy on Today at 08:56:58 AM
I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
Even after the shit he put on his own forum about us? Anyway, he's another perspective from a genuinely decent Stripey.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/another-game-of-three-thirds/
In all honesty I've no problem with Liam. He came on here and was gracious and polite (unless I missed a post or two). What he puts on his own forum is his business. At the end of the day he's a fan of one of our main rivals, so once he gets back to home turf he's hardly going to sing our praises, and he probably doesn't like the Villa that much. In terms of his conduct on here, no complaints and if he wants to do the same next season, I for one wouldn't have a problem. We get wind up merchants on here, but he came and behaved himself.
After all if any of us were to venture out, for any reason to a Smethwick forum the least we could do is behave ourselves. Back on our own patch here we're then quite entitled to call them small time and everything else.
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Quote from: lovejoy on Today at 08:56:58 AM
I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
Even after the shit he put on his own forum about us? Anyway, he's another perspective from a genuinely decent Stripey.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/another-game-of-three-thirds/
In all honesty I've no problem with Liam. He came on here and was gracious and polite (unless I missed a post or two). What he puts on his own forum is his business. At the end of the day he's a fan of one of our main rivals, so once he gets back to home turf he's hardly going to sing our praises, and he probably doesn't like the Villa that much. In terms of his conduct on here, no complaints and if he wants to do the same next season, I for one wouldn't have a problem. We get wind up merchants on here, but he came and behaved himself.
After all if any of us were to venture out, for any reason to a Smethwick forum the least we could do is behave ourselves. Back on our own patch here we're then quite entitled to call them small time and everything else.
Well said
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Quote from: lovejoy on Today at 08:56:58 AM
I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
Even after the shit he put on his own forum about us? Anyway, he's another perspective from a genuinely decent Stripey.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/another-game-of-three-thirds/
In all honesty I've no problem with Liam. He came on here and was gracious and polite (unless I missed a post or two). What he puts on his own forum is his business. At the end of the day he's a fan of one of our main rivals, so once he gets back to home turf he's hardly going to sing our praises, and he probably doesn't like the Villa that much. In terms of his conduct on here, no complaints and if he wants to do the same next season, I for one wouldn't have a problem. We get wind up merchants on here, but he came and behaved himself.
After all if any of us were to venture out, for any reason to a Smethwick forum the least we could do is behave ourselves. Back on our own patch here we're then quite entitled to call them small time and everything else.
Well said
Yeah, I didn't find anything that infuriating in his attitude either. So what if he would love to see us fall flat on our faces? It's up to the Villa to make sure we don't, and then we'll be the ones laughing. And that's what happened.
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I know we arnt supposed to be bothered about them,
but I really really want to finish higher than them this season,
not because its just another place higher but because i'm sick of the twats actually believing they are better than us and its going to last long term,
yes they have had a couple of decent seasons and finished above us, so they can crow,
but fuck me lets just finish higher and stop them bleating on
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Quote from: lovejoy on Today at 08:56:58 AM
I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
Even after the shit he put on his own forum about us? Anyway, he's another perspective from a genuinely decent Stripey.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/another-game-of-three-thirds/
In all honesty I've no problem with Liam. He came on here and was gracious and polite (unless I missed a post or two). What he puts on his own forum is his business. At the end of the day he's a fan of one of our main rivals, so once he gets back to home turf he's hardly going to sing our praises, and he probably doesn't like the Villa that much. In terms of his conduct on here, no complaints and if he wants to do the same next season, I for one wouldn't have a problem. We get wind up merchants on here, but he came and behaved himself.
After all if any of us were to venture out, for any reason to a Smethwick forum the least we could do is behave ourselves. Back on our own patch here we're then quite entitled to call them small time and everything else.
Well said
Yeah, I didn't find anything that infuriating in his attitude either. So what if he would love to see us fall flat on our faces? It's up to the Villa to make sure we don't, and then we'll be the ones laughing. And that's what happened.
So it's fine for him to come on here, be polite to us, slag us off on his own forum, then when somebody disagrees with him on here he comes out with the usual double standards they always revert to and it's still okay?
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I know we arnt supposed to be bothered about them,
but I really really want to finish higher than them this season,
not because its just another place higher but because i'm sick of the twats actually believing they are better than us and its going to last long term,
yes they have had a couple of decent seasons and finished above us, so they can crow,
but fuck me lets just finish higher and stop them bleating on
We will. I think the last 2 results will have really wounded them and they'll fall apart. I'm not sure how many points we'll get this year but shouldn't need to be too many to finish above them.
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I know we arnt supposed to be bothered about them,
but I really really want to finish higher than them this season,
not because its just another place higher but because i'm sick of the twats actually believing they are better than us and its going to last long term,
yes they have had a couple of decent seasons and finished above us, so they can crow,
but fuck me lets just finish higher and stop them bleating on
We will. I think the last 2 results will have really wounded them and they'll fall apart. I'm not sure how many points we'll get this year but shouldn't need to be too many to finish above them.
I've had a bet with a mate that we will. He reckon's they will. Whoever's wrong is paying for the other's ticket for Spurs last away game. I'll have a cheap day I reckon.
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Get above them this weekend and stay above them for the remainder. Beat them in Jan convincingly and take that young up and coming star off them too, then, draw them in the FA cup, knock them out and go on and win it.
Say nothing but exude smugness and arrogance.
That should do it.
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Get above them this weekend and stay above them for the remainder. Beat them in Jan convincingly and take that young up and coming star off them too, then, draw them in the FA cup, knock them out and go on and win it.
Say nothing but exude smugness and arrogance.
That should do it.
Perfect Storm...
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Quote from: lovejoy on Today at 08:56:58 AM
I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
Even after the shit he put on his own forum about us? Anyway, he's another perspective from a genuinely decent Stripey.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/another-game-of-three-thirds/
In all honesty I've no problem with Liam. He came on here and was gracious and polite (unless I missed a post or two). What he puts on his own forum is his business. At the end of the day he's a fan of one of our main rivals, so once he gets back to home turf he's hardly going to sing our praises, and he probably doesn't like the Villa that much. In terms of his conduct on here, no complaints and if he wants to do the same next season, I for one wouldn't have a problem. We get wind up merchants on here, but he came and behaved himself.
After all if any of us were to venture out, for any reason to a Smethwick forum the least we could do is behave ourselves. Back on our own patch here we're then quite entitled to call them small time and everything else.
Well said
Yeah, I didn't find anything that infuriating in his attitude either. So what if he would love to see us fall flat on our faces? It's up to the Villa to make sure we don't, and then we'll be the ones laughing. And that's what happened.
So it's fine for him to come on here, be polite to us, slag us off on his own forum, then when somebody disagrees with him on here he comes out with the usual double standards they always revert to and it's still okay?
Has he stepped out of line on H&V? If he's having a pop on his own forum, so be it, that's up to him. Smethwick fans will just perennially love having moan about us, the same as the Blose. Deep down they all know what the midlands pecking order has been, is, and will be. The odd anomaly doesn't change anything, and that's why they'll always revel more in getting one up on us, compared to us when we get one over on them. We won't hear from him again (if we do) until the reverse fixture.
We've had a few respectful fans from other clubs pop on here briefly. If they then go back and start taking the piss it doesn't concern me. I don't really like any other club besides us, while a good number I've a fairly strong dislike of, I'd imagine most fans are similar. To most smethwick fans we'll be strongly disliked, but if they come on here and show a bit of humility and respect then it doesn't bother me.
If I visited another forum for the same reasons as say Liam did, to garner a consensus on the upcoming game. I wouldn't go in rocking the boat or taking the piss. If said club was a team like Utd, Chelsea, or one of our oiky local rivals, then I'd soon be back to pouring a bit of scourn on those clubs back in the confides of H&V.
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I think with a good spine of Guzan, Vlaar, Delph and Benteke up top, we've got the edge on them. Their flair players are pretty inconsistent. Amalfitano is a decent player on his day, as is Sessegnon, but how often is their day? Long isn't close to being a 15-20 goal striker. He's like Gabby to be fair. Works hard, occasionally (like monday) he'll look quality and he'll net a goal or two, but he'll never be prolific or consistent enough.
I think they'll struggle at some point because the lack of a goalscorer will be telling. We also have to remember that they're level on points, but we've had the tougher start.
Much also depends on what both clubs do in Jan. If they get a decent forward they'll be better. Likewise if we get a classy midfielder, we'll get a leg up.
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#Has he stepped out of line on H&V? If he's having a pop on his own forum, so be it, that's up to him. Smethwick fans will just perennially love having moan about us, the same as the Blose. Deep down they all know what the midlands pecking order has been, is, and will be. The odd anomaly doesn't change anything, and that's why they'll always revel more in getting one up on us, compared to us when we get one over on them. We won't hear from him again (if we do) until the reverse fixture.
We've had a few respectful fans from other clubs pop on here briefly. If they then go back and start taking the piss it doesn't concern me. I don't really like any other club besides us, while a good number I've a fairly strong dislike of, I'd imagine most fans are similar. To most smethwick fans we'll be strongly disliked, but if they come on here and show a bit of humility and respect then it doesn't bother me.
If I visited another forum for the same reasons as say Liam did, to garner a consensus on the upcoming game. I wouldn't go in rocking the boat or taking the piss. If said club was a team like Utd, Chelsea, or one of our oiky local rivals, then I'd soon be back to pouring a bit of scourn on those clubs back in the confides of H&V.
Are you happy to read this, for a start? And remember that all the time he was being nice and polite on here, he was slagging us with his little friends.
It's something no matter how many times it gets explained you will never understand it.
We've lived having to suffer your arrogance, the looking down on us and forever letting us know just how "small" we are and how "big" you are.
It means something to us because it is hilarious watching the big brother of the region finally being knocked off their perch. You have a good history and your expectations are naturally much higher than ours, but we'll laugh at seeing your side fail to meet your high expectations which lets be honest - may, at times, be slightly over the top.
If you would have had the school days that I had, just maybe, just maybe, you might understand. We're obsessed with our club - but we'll take great delight in watching you fail because we've had your successes rammed down our throats for years on end.
Unless you're an Albion fan or a bluenose you'll never understand it - you'll just claim we're small time and obsessed until you're blue in the face
That's fine by me, carry on.
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#Has he stepped out of line on H&V? If he's having a pop on his own forum, so be it, that's up to him. Smethwick fans will just perennially love having moan about us, the same as the Blose. Deep down they all know what the midlands pecking order has been, is, and will be. The odd anomaly doesn't change anything, and that's why they'll always revel more in getting one up on us, compared to us when we get one over on them. We won't hear from him again (if we do) until the reverse fixture.
We've had a few respectful fans from other clubs pop on here briefly. If they then go back and start taking the piss it doesn't concern me. I don't really like any other club besides us, while a good number I've a fairly strong dislike of, I'd imagine most fans are similar. To most smethwick fans we'll be strongly disliked, but if they come on here and show a bit of humility and respect then it doesn't bother me.
If I visited another forum for the same reasons as say Liam did, to garner a consensus on the upcoming game. I wouldn't go in rocking the boat or taking the piss. If said club was a team like Utd, Chelsea, or one of our oiky local rivals, then I'd soon be back to pouring a bit of scourn on those clubs back in the confides of H&V.
Are you happy to read this, for a start? And remember that all the time he was being nice and polite on here, he was slagging us with his little friends.
It's something no matter how many times it gets explained you will never understand it.
We've lived having to suffer your arrogance, the looking down on us and forever letting us know just how "small" we are and how "big" you are.
It means something to us because it is hilarious watching the big brother of the region finally being knocked off their perch. You have a good history and your expectations are naturally much higher than ours, but we'll laugh at seeing your side fail to meet your high expectations which lets be honest - may, at times, be slightly over the top.
If you would have had the school days that I had, just maybe, just maybe, you might understand. We're obsessed with our club - but we'll take great delight in watching you fail because we've had your successes rammed down our throats for years on end.
Unless you're an Albion fan or a bluenose you'll never understand it - you'll just claim we're small time and obsessed until you're blue in the face
That's fine by me, carry on.
Genuinely doesn't bother me.
On a personal level I don't really mind Blues, Albion or Walsall winning as long as it's not against us. Just don't really get that worked up about them either way.
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Honestly Dave, when he was on here being nice etc, I still expected him to go back to his Baggies forum and start moaning about the Villa. If he came on here and continually moaned about us it would be a different matter, but it doesn't bother me that much. I can see why it would piss people off to be fair, but we can only control what happens on here. I certainly wouldn't want to ban any rival fans completely from the site, not even the odd Smethwick or Bluenose...as long as they behave while their on our turf.
Nothing he said was too surprising, or insulting its just there's something about our small time rivals ingrained in most of them that thinks we rub their nose in it. The truth is the only time we ever bring up anything like the Euro Cup in 82 etc, is when they ask for it. Not to get too playground about it, but more often than not, they start it.
He could have have said worse to be fair, and a lot of their fans probably would have. He put a point across without getting personal or at least breaking any of the site rules (as far as I know anyhow). I'm sure he'll have repeated that statement on his own site, probably with more vitriol.
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A lot of their fans did - and they were on here because of him. If you want another club's fans coming on here slagging us then fine but don't expect me to treat them with anything but contempt.
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To be fair I could live with almost everything he put on here but the "we'll take great delight in watching you fail" is over-stepping the line for me, that's bordering on trolling/wumming and was always going to incite a reaction from some people, remove that paragraph/sentence and I don't think he did anything wrong on here. Linking back to their forum where he posted a fair bit of shit about us which is pretty simple to spot is a bit silly as well.
I personally don't care enough to be upset by it but if I was a mod on here I'd have pm'd him after that comment asking him to avoid comments like that.
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I'm quite pleased that recent encounters with West Brom have resulted in me detesting them again, as I used to in the 70's & 80's.
Not as much as I detest Small Heath though.
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I'm quite pleased that recent encounters with West Brom have resulted in me detesting them again, as I used to in the 70's & 80's.
Not as much as I detest Small Heath though.
div one late 70's and early 80's had -
Villa
Blues
WBA
Wolves
Coventry
Forest
Stoke
Leicester
that's nearly half the league made up of midlands derby's
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I've never considered games against Stoke, Forest, Leicester etc to be "derbys"
And Cov is stretching it a bit for me.
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I'm quite pleased that recent encounters with West Brom have resulted in me detesting them again, as I used to in the 70's & 80's.
Not as much as I detest Small Heath though.
div one late 70's and early 80's had -
Villa
Blues
WBA
Wolves
Coventry
Forest
Stoke
Leicester
that's nearly half the league made up of midlands derby's
Notts county and derby too in the 70s/80s.
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In the title winning 80/81 season we played 14 games against Midlands sides, winning 11 and drawing 3.
So just 3 points dropped in that third of the season.
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I've never considered games against Stoke, Forest, Leicester etc to be "derbys"
And Cov is stretching it a bit for me.
Me neither, we'll be including any club that was ever the home team on Star Soccer if we go down that route. Mind you, now I come to think of it I fucking hate Oxford.
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I've never considered games against Stoke, Forest, Leicester etc to be "derbys"
And Cov is stretching it a bit for me.
Me neither, we'll be including any club that was ever the home team on Star Soccer if we go down that route. Mind you, now I come to think of it I fucking hate Oxford.
They even stretched it to Swindon at times if I remember rightly. Veering even further off topic, for a while in the early/mid seventies when Cloughie's Derby were riding high, the (West Midlands) Sports Argus included them in their reports etc.
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To be fair I could live with almost everything he put on here but the "we'll take great delight in watching you fail" is over-stepping the line for me, that's bordering on trolling/wumming and was always going to incite a reaction from some people, remove that paragraph/sentence and I don't think he did anything wrong on here. Linking back to their forum where he posted a fair bit of shit about us which is pretty simple to spot is a bit silly as well.
I personally don't care enough to be upset by it but if I was a mod on here I'd have pm'd him after that comment asking him to avoid comments like that.
As for that line about wanting to see us fail. I don't think it's anything you wouldn't just naturally assume your average Baggies fan would think. It's not surprising in the least. At least for me it didn't rile me up at all. I wouldn't go as far as contempt certainly. Just total indifference. I don't think he was being abusive in anyway. He had been somewhat goaded himself too in fairness.
As for some of the other idiots that appeared, some of whom pretending to be Villa fans, that was just a couple of people being childish and playing silly sods. Sweep em out, move on, job done.
Order will be restored this season and then we'll barely hear a peep from them all summer.
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Honestly, who gives a shit what Liam the Baggie thinks?
He came, he said some stuff, he took the piss, we took the piss back, he fucked off.
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To be fair I could live with almost everything he put on here but the "we'll take great delight in watching you fail" is over-stepping the line for me, that's bordering on trolling/wumming and was always going to incite a reaction from some people, remove that paragraph/sentence and I don't think he did anything wrong on here. Linking back to their forum where he posted a fair bit of shit about us which is pretty simple to spot is a bit silly as well.
I personally don't care enough to be upset by it but if I was a mod on here I'd have pm'd him after that comment asking him to avoid comments like that.
As for that line about wanting to see us fail. I don't think it's anything you wouldn't just naturally assume your average Baggies fan would think. It's not surprising in the least. At least for me it didn't rile me up at all. I wouldn't go as far as contempt certainly. Just total indifference. I don't think he was being abusive in anyway. He had been somewhat goaded himself too in fairness.
As for some of the other idiots that appeared, some of whom pretending to be Villa fans, that was just a couple of people being childish and playing silly sods. Sweep em out, move on, job done.
Order will be restored this season and then we'll barely hear a peep from them all summer.
There aren't many peeps to be heard at the moment.
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Honestly, who gives a shit what Liam the Baggie thinks?
He came, he said some stuff, he took the piss, we took the piss back, he fucked off.
Agreed, he seemed harmless enough, Dixie was a bit more confrontational but I didn't see it as more than banter to be honest - we have had worse visitors on here down the years .
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Amen.
Do you know why it gets on the tits of some of us though, Supertom?
It is because we have to listen to that same shite on a weekly basis and in many cases have had to for years on end.
They tend to be great at trying to play nicely but cannot ultimately help in slipping into every stereotype cited.
They are a poxy, small time, irritating bunch of fucktards and the level of bile they can spill forth can drive you up the wall.
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To be fair I could live with almost everything he put on here but the "we'll take great delight in watching you fail" is over-stepping the line for me, that's bordering on trolling/wumming and was always going to incite a reaction from some people, remove that paragraph/sentence and I don't think he did anything wrong on here. Linking back to their forum where he posted a fair bit of shit about us which is pretty simple to spot is a bit silly as well.
I personally don't care enough to be upset by it but if I was a mod on here I'd have pm'd him after that comment asking him to avoid comments like that.
As for that line about wanting to see us fail. I don't think it's anything you wouldn't just naturally assume your average Baggies fan would think. It's not surprising in the least. At least for me it didn't rile me up at all. I wouldn't go as far as contempt certainly. Just total indifference. I don't think he was being abusive in anyway. He had been somewhat goaded himself too in fairness.
As for some of the other idiots that appeared, some of whom pretending to be Villa fans, that was just a couple of people being childish and playing silly sods. Sweep em out, move on, job done.
Order will be restored this season and then we'll barely hear a peep from them all summer.
There aren't many peeps to be heard at the moment.
Certainly not. When we finish above them at the end of the season you'll hear more noise in space than you will in West Brom.
They've been living la vida loca for two seasons and let it go to their head. Honestly they reckon we rub trophies in their faces, but they finish above us a couple of season running and you'd think they were Barca-fucking-lona.
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Amen.
Do you know why it gets on the tits of some of us though, Supertom?
It is because we have to listen to that same shite on a weekly basis and in many cases have had to for years on end.
They tend to be great at trying to play nicely but cannot ultimately help in slipping into every stereotype cited.
They are a poxy, small time, irritating bunch of fucktards and the level of bile they can spill forth can drive you up the wall.
I fully understand why it bugs people. I don't have to put up with too many Tesco bags or Blue noses down south thankfully so I don't get the annoyance week in week out. I did work with a Nose a few years back, who also happened to be called Tom. It was like working with my evil alter ego. To be fair we had a good laugh though. Constant banter.
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Honestly, who gives a shit what Liam the Baggie thinks?
He came, he said some stuff, he took the piss, we took the piss back, he fucked off.
Seems like how it always goes when a fan of another club comes on here.
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Honestly, who gives a shit what Liam the Baggie thinks?
He came, he said some stuff, he took the piss, we took the piss back, he fucked off.
Seems like how it always goes when a fan of another club comes on here.
Not in the case of the impeccably behaved Davey B - a true gent!
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I am an occasional poster but obsessed reader of this wonderful site, I know its just a rival fan having a bit of banter but It just didnt feel comfortable having Liam poking around on here, it just got my hackles up, I am glad he has left us and will not be welcoming him or any of his pals back.
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Honestly, who gives a shit what Liam the Baggie thinks?
He came, he said some stuff, he took the piss, we took the piss back, he fucked off.
Seems like how it always goes when a fan of another club comes on here.
Not in the case of the impeccably behaved Davey B - a true gent!
Is that Davey B the Sunderland fan?
Been looking forward to him popping on.
Villa - Sunderland - real history!
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Honestly, who gives a shit what Liam the Baggie thinks?
He came, he said some stuff, he took the piss, we took the piss back, he fucked off.
Seems like how it always goes when a fan of another club comes on here.
Not in the case of the impeccably behaved Davey B - a true gent!
I was thinking that earlier today. The only two that haven't ended in tears have been Davey and Sendo.
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Honestly, who gives a shit what Liam the Baggie thinks?
He came, he said some stuff, he took the piss, we took the piss back, he fucked off.
Seems like how it always goes when a fan of another club comes on here.
Not in the case of the impeccably behaved Davey B - a true gent!
Is that Davey B the Sunderland fan?
Been looking forward to him popping on.
Villa - Sunderland - real history!
Indeed it is , courteous honest and genuine - a credit to his club.
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And one or two decent stoke fans, dont recall any fallouts there?
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
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And one or two decent stoke fans, dont recall any fallouts there?
Oh, there was. After one of their horribler Villa Park performances one of them was very "But I thought you loved us" when we gave our opinions of his club.
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And one or two decent stoke fans, dont recall any fallouts there?
Oh, there was. After one of their horribler Villa Park performances one of them was very "But I thought you loved us" when we gave our opinions of his club.
Bunny - seemed a nice bloke but then underwent a personality transplant and became a wild rat.
Even after our 6-1 hammering of the mackems and the euphoria on here, Davey still came on to pass on his best wishes to us .
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There's a Mackem who comes on here too who is decent.
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Lets face it. Anyone who doesn't support the Villa is fucking bonkers and needs locking up.
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Aye.
I've had a right laugh reading over this thread. I'm considering having that 'One Direction' quote immortalised as my signature. It sums them up.
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There's a Mackem who comes on here too who is decent.
I think his name's Davey B but er.. i'm not sure.
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Could it be Davey B by any chance?
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Davey B that's the one. He / She seems ok.
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Davey B is a good guy, but then I know lots of Sunderland fans and they all come across well, they usually quite like us as well.
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They love us since we relegated Sports Direct FC
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They love us since we relegated Sports Direct FC
You obviously missed the fall-out of the Bent transfer, in that case.
Also, if you want a glimpse at a football forum so infantile, dim-witted and toe-curling it makes Villa Talk look like the UN Security council, check out http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/
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My best mate of 23 years is an Albion fan. Always been a great bloke, until the last two seasons in which he's become a gobby cocky thunderc**t. Baggie twat.
Anyway, on the very off chance that you are reading this Ada, Hussey Arms next friday night?
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They love us since we relegated Sports Direct FC
You obviously missed the fall-out of the Bent transfer, in that case.
Also, if you want a glimpse at a football forum so infantile, dim-witted and toe-curling it makes Villa Talk look like the UN Security council, check out http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/
Which thread ?
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They love us since we relegated Sports Direct FC
You obviously missed the fall-out of the Bent transfer, in that case.
Also, if you want a glimpse at a football forum so infantile, dim-witted and toe-curling it makes Villa Talk look like the UN Security council, check out http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/
Which thread ?
Take your pic, it's a convention of dunces and has been for years.
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Why didn't Davey B take the penalty?
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Aye.
I've had a right laugh reading over this thread. I'm considering having that 'One Direction' quote immortalised as my signature. It sums them up.
Pureile from a Pea Brain
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Quote from: lovejoy on Today at 08:56:58 AM
I quite like it when oppo supporters come on here it adds a different perspective to the discussion. Lets not jump down his throat too much.
Even after the shit he put on his own forum about us? Anyway, he's another perspective from a genuinely decent Stripey.
http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/another-game-of-three-thirds/
In all honesty I've no problem with Liam. He came on here and was gracious and polite (unless I missed a post or two). What he puts on his own forum is his business. At the end of the day he's a fan of one of our main rivals, so once he gets back to home turf he's hardly going to sing our praises, and he probably doesn't like the Villa that much. In terms of his conduct on here, no complaints and if he wants to do the same next season, I for one wouldn't have a problem. We get wind up merchants on here, but he came and behaved himself.
After all if any of us were to venture out, for any reason to a Smethwick forum the least we could do is behave ourselves. Back on our own patch here we're then quite entitled to call them small time and everything else.
Well said
Yeah, I didn't find anything that infuriating in his attitude either. So what if he would love to see us fall flat on our faces? It's up to the Villa to make sure we don't, and then we'll be the ones laughing. And that's what happened.
So it's fine for him to come on here, be polite to us, slag us off on his own forum, then when somebody disagrees with him on here he comes out with the usual double standards they always revert to and it's still okay?
If it was face to face and personal then yeah i'd get wound up but on an internet forum it doesn't matter. I haven't seen anything offensive on here from him despite some replies which have invited a bite. Also I haven't seen what he's put on the Albion forum solely due to the fact I have no interest in their club, Albion is theirs,Villa is ours. My take on it is the Albion fans feel the same way about us as I do about United fans, it's just part and parcel of supporting any club.
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Lets face it. Anyone who doesn't support the Villa is fucking bonkers and needs locking up.
This. Just waiting until King William V implements this law.
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Aye.
I've had a right laugh reading over this thread. I'm considering having that 'One Direction' quote immortalised as my signature. It sums them up.
Pureile from a Pea Brain
In fairness, it's presumably just some spotty teenager. Made me smile.
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They love us since we relegated Sports Direct FC
You obviously missed the fall-out of the Bent transfer, in that case.
Also, if you want a glimpse at a football forum so infantile, dim-witted and toe-curling it makes Villa Talk look like the UN Security council, check out http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/
Which thread ?
Take your pic, it's a convention of dunces and has been for years.
"When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him."
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And one or two decent stoke fans, dont recall any fallouts there?
The Stoke fan who came on here was the worst of the bunch, patronising, condescending and soon revealed himself to be a massive c**t, Forgotten his name again but I took an instant dislike to him.
Wish I had bookmarked the welcome that used to be on a Hull City forum for any Stoke fans. Basically it had a section for opposition supporters which said they were welcome but to expect some abuse from some of their members, there was a link for all visiting Stoke supporters, when they clicked on it all that showed on the screen was 'YOU ARE A C**T'. Childish, but funny.
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Bunny
That's him/her! Not being wise after the event when I say I never liked or trusted them.
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Bunny told me some interesting stuff about Phil Dowd after the cup final fallout so I won't be too harsh on him.
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Phil Dowd told me some interesting stuff about Bunny after the cup final fallout so I won't be too harsh on him.
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I've only been following football for around 37 years so I have only had the chance to develop a hatred for all other West Mids clubs, Liverpool, Tottenham, Leeds. Everyone else I love. Jolly good luck to them.
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Crap, I forgot any team managed by Sam Allerdyce, Mourinho or with Ballotelli in. I may have missed one or two more!
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
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Crap, I forgot any team managed by Sam Allerdyce, Mourinho or with Ballotelli in. I may have missed one or two more!
i love Balotelli, he's a character and there's not enough of them in the game nowadays. Granted, he can seem a bit of a turd but he does some lovely things, like the story about the kid being bullied, the tramp, randomly giving money out to strangers on manchester streets etc.
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I've only been following football for around 37 years so I have only had the chance to develop a hatred for all other West Mids clubs, Liverpool, Tottenham, Leeds. Everyone else I love. Jolly good luck to them.
I go for the Acker Doctrine. "There's 92 league clubs. An' I 'ate 91 of 'em."
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
I honestly can't remember. Was a good two plus years ago. He seemed like Sendo, a decent fella who posted fairly often here. Then on that thread, might have been about Danny's book, he just went off on one.
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
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So, despite our disappointing afternoon the Smethwick Barca are actually looking up the table at us tonight.
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So, despite our disappointing afternoon the Smethwick Barca are actually looking up the table at us tonight.
Well at least they know who they are.
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I'd have probably got most of them as well. Love that episode.
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I'd have probably got most of them as well. Love that episode.
ASELF is an anagram of complete and utter bastards....
great episode !
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
.. and Motorhead performing Ace of Spades.
Didn't this episode win an award? Still one of my faves and and great start to the Second Series.
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
'Look at Neil, swotting away for teacher like a total Spazmo'.
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I enjoyed the Young Ones at the time but tried watching an episode a couple of years ago and didn't think it aged well at all.
Anyway, that Bunny was a cock, are we agreed?
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
'Look at Neil, swotting away for teacher like a total Spazmo'.
"Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was considewwwably more widespread .. "
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
'Look at Neil, swotting away for teacher like a total Spazmo'.
"Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was considewwwably more widespread .. "
And also Robbie Coltrane and Tony Robinson at the end 'Calm yourself Doctor Not The Nine O'Clock News, we are men of science'
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
'Look at Neil, swotting away for teacher like a total Spazmo'.
"Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was considewwwably more widespread .. "
John
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
'Look at Neil, swotting away for teacher like a total Spazmo'.
"Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was considewwwably more widespread .. "
John
Went to a quiz on Friday after watching Pointless, and one of the questions was 'who did Scumbag College beat in the Bambi episode of the Young Ones?' I was raging I didn't get an extra point for putting "Oxbridge".
"Just because I'm so hard and straight and cool and I've done absolutely BUGGER all..."
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
'Look at Neil, swotting away for teacher like a total Spazmo'.
"Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was considewwwably more widespread .. "
John
Went to a quiz on Friday after watching Pointless, and one of the questions was 'who did Scumbag College beat in the Bambi episode of the Young Ones?' I was raging I didn't get an extra point for putting "Oxbridge".
"Just because I'm so hard and straight and cool and I've done absolutely BUGGER all..."
I've got a Porsche, hahahahahahaha
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Daddy sends hugs.
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Bloody hell you lot are like the boring sixth formers from school who were always quoting Monty Python.
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I will not have my fwends widiculed.
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Bloody hell you lot are like the boring sixth formers from school who were always quoting Monty Python.
Shut up and tell me the answer.
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I did a pub quiz and got the answer to the question- 'What was the name of the hamster in The Young One's?', I could remember SPG, but took me a few rounds until Special Patrol Group popped into my head. Not bad considering I was probably about 1 when they aired.
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I remember that Liverpool fan who used to come on here and seemed decent. Then suddenly went a bit mental on a thread for no real reason that I can remember. A thread about hooligans or hooligan books iirc. And I don't mean that Redman fella.
Was that the guy with Toxteth in his user name?
No, you're thinking of Toxteth O'Grady (USA).
Pointless the other day, the final round, the category was "people who appeared in the University Challenge episode of The Young Ones".
I don't think I've ever had so many pointless answers. The obvious ones, ie the usual cast, plus Emma Thompson, Ben Elton, Fry and Laurie etc, but also Griff Rhys Jones as Bambi, and Mel Smith, as the security guard who wouldn't let Vyvyan in with his mascot "rabbit".
"That's not a rabbit, that's a pig" etc etc.
They were almost all pointless. As was Alexi Sayle, who was in this one as Garibaldi holding up the train.
I went for Alexei Sayle as I presumed a lot of people would forget everything apart from the actual University Challenge bit.
'Look at Neil, swotting away for teacher like a total Spazmo'.
"Crop rotation in the fourteenth century was considewwwably more widespread .. "
John
Went to a quiz on Friday after watching Pointless, and one of the questions was 'who did Scumbag College beat in the Bambi episode of the Young Ones?' I was raging I didn't get an extra point for putting "Oxbridge".
"Just because I'm so hard and straight and cool and I've done absolutely BUGGER all..."
I've got a Porsche, hahahahahahaha
It's not an automatic!!!
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Bloody hell you lot are like the boring sixth formers from school who were always quoting Monty Python.
Have you had enough, Nazi, or do you want some more?
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Bloody hell you lot are like the boring sixth formers from school who were always quoting Monty Python.
Have you had enough, Nazi, or do you want some more?
Whilst you lot are re-enacting the Young Ones I've been chatting to Michelle Gill in the corridor, Villa fan, likes T.Rex and Northern Soul. Failed miserably, got to go to a couple of Villa matches with her but us being attacked coming out of Ayresome Park didn't go down too well with her folks. One of the many reasons I hate that club and town.
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Ayresome Park was a horrible place to go. I only went there once, that live tv game in 87-88 (I think). Not fun.
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Ayresome Park was a horrible place to go. I only went there once, that live tv game in 87-88 (I think). Not fun.
Went there for the Semi Final of the some cup or another (might have been the Simod or Full Members Cup, I forget which) back in the late 80's. There wasn't many of us and it was a bit grim.
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Ayresome Park was a horrible place to go. I only went there once, that live tv game in 87-88 (I think). Not fun.
Went there for the Semi Final of the some cup or another (might have been the Simod or Full Members Cup, I forget which) back in the late 80's. There wasn't many of us and it was a bit grim.
Zenith data systems cup?
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Ayresome Park was a horrible place to go. I only went there once, that live tv game in 87-88 (I think). Not fun.
Went there for the Semi Final of the some cup or another (might have been the Simod or Full Members Cup, I forget which) back in the late 80's. There wasn't many of us and it was a bit grim.
Zenith data systems cup?
Might have been Zenith Data actually.
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Ayresome Park was a horrible place to go. I only went there once, that live tv game in 87-88 (I think). Not fun.
Went there for the Semi Final of the some cup or another (might have been the Simod or Full Members Cup, I forget which) back in the late 80's. There wasn't many of us and it was a bit grim.
Zenith data systems cup?
Think it would have been the Simod Cup at that point.
Was that the season we played Small Heath in that? And beat them 6-0? A week or so after we had beaten them 5-0?
I seem to recall getting into a fight with some noses in a club in Newcastle over that. Surreally, Brendan Foster and Steve Cram were sat at a table nearby, watching it unfold.
Happy days.
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Ayresome Park was a horrible place to go. I only went there once, that live tv game in 87-88 (I think). Not fun.
Went there for the Semi Final of the some cup or another (might have been the Simod or Full Members Cup, I forget which) back in the late 80's. There wasn't many of us and it was a bit grim.
Zenith data systems cup?
Might have been Zenith Data actually.
Yes , I think they won down here and we took it to extra time up there - wasnt bernie slaven their hero that night ?
Just looked it up - it was the the zenith data systems cup.
http://www.11v11.com/teams/middlesbrough/tab/matches/season/1990/comp/74
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It was 88 that I was thinking of. We beat Small Heath 6-0 in the Simod cup, shortly after doing them 5-0 and 2-0 in the League cup.
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Ayresome Park was a horrible place to go. I only went there once, that live tv game in 87-88 (I think). Not fun.
Went there for the Semi Final of the some cup or another (might have been the Simod or Full Members Cup, I forget which) back in the late 80's. There wasn't many of us and it was a bit grim.
Zenith data systems cup?
Think it would have been the Simod Cup at that point.
Was that the season we played Small Heath in that? And beat them 6-0? A week or so after we had beaten them 5-0?
I seem to recall getting into a fight with some noses in a club in Newcastle over that. Surreally, Brendan Foster and Steve Cram were sat at a table nearby, watching it unfold.
Happy days.
No that was season 88/89 and the simod cup- it had changed to the zenith data by the time we played boro in the semi final in 1990.
Sorry paulie , just seen your reply.
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It was Zenith Data when we played Boro in the regional final. Lost both 2-1. The 6-0 vs small heath was the previous season when it was the Simod.
And the season before that was THAT Bradford game. Which is still the cause of the closest I ever felt to giving up on the Villa. Probably why I wasn't as totally fucked off as others about Bradford last season.
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It was Zenith Data when we played Boro in the regional final. Lost both 2-1. The 6-0 vs small heath was the previous season when it was the Simod.
And the season before that was THAT Bradford game. Which is still the cause of the closest I ever felt to giving up on the Villa. Probably why I wasn't as totally fucked off as others about Bradford last season.
What happened at the bradford game then pws? I remember beating them in the league .
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I remember going up to Ayresome Park when we were in the second division. Bleak. We were in an uncovered corner of a half empty ground
Although the old barrel-roofed main stand was fantastic
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Lost 5-0 at home in front of less than 4,500. Felt like I had the Holte to myself it was so empty. I was on the dole and living in Bromsgrove at the time. Spent over a weeks dole money getting to the game. Which including a two hour walk to Bromsgrove train station from my house, and a two hour walk back at stupid o'clock. For anyone who knows Bromsgrove, think where the train station is, and then where the Park Gate pub is/was (I assume it is still there) on the Kiddy Road as I lived near there. I spent most of the walk home swearing i'd never go again. I hated Villa that night!
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I remember going up to Ayresome Park when we were in the second division. Bleak. We were in an uncovered corner of a half empty ground
Although the old barrel-roofed main stand was fantastic
And there were about 300 of us there, absolutely maximum. Valentine's day 1988
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I've still got the programme for that Boro game, I think Alan Kerngahan is on the front. Stuart Gray scored for us to take it into extra time then we let in two. It was a long journey home.
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What was Pongo Waring like to watch?
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Lost 5-0 at home in front of less than 4,500. Felt like I had the Holte to myself it was so empty. I was on the dole and living in Bromsgrove at the time. Spent over a weeks dole money getting to the game. Which including a two hour walk to Bromsgrove train station from my house, and a two hour walk back at stupid o'clock. For anyone who knows Bromsgrove, think where the train station is, and then where the Park Gate pub is/was (I assume it is still there) on the Kiddy Road as I lived near there. I spent most of the walk home swearing i'd never go again. I hated Villa that night!
I can't recall that game at all- were we playing a weakened team or our 1st team?
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I remember going up to Ayresome Park when we were in the second division. Bleak. We were in an uncovered corner of a half empty ground
Although the old barrel-roofed main stand was fantastic
And there were about 300 of us there, absolutely maximum. Valentine's day 1988
I was living in Newcastle and had a ticket for the game but didn't make it past my front door. An afternoon on Teeside with a stinking hangover and the threat of getting my head kicked in kind of put me off. And a lady, success at last. Not Michelle Gill though.
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Lost 5-0 at home in front of less than 4,500. Felt like I had the Holte to myself it was so empty. I was on the dole and living in Bromsgrove at the time. Spent over a weeks dole money getting to the game. Which including a two hour walk to Bromsgrove train station from my house, and a two hour walk back at stupid o'clock. For anyone who knows Bromsgrove, think where the train station is, and then where the Park Gate pub is/was (I assume it is still there) on the Kiddy Road as I lived near there. I spent most of the walk home swearing i'd never go again. I hated Villa that night!
I remember us being beaten 5-0 by them but I can't remember if I was at the game or not.
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Looked up the Villa team: Spink, Gage, Gallacher, Lillis, Sims, McInally, Birch, Shaw, Thompson, Blair, Walters. Scarily, that was close to our first 11.
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Lost 5-0 at home in front of less than 4,500. Felt like I had the Holte to myself it was so empty. I was on the dole and living in Bromsgrove at the time. Spent over a weeks dole money getting to the game. Which including a two hour walk to Bromsgrove train station from my house, and a two hour walk back at stupid o'clock. For anyone who knows Bromsgrove, think where the train station is, and then where the Park Gate pub is/was (I assume it is still there) on the Kiddy Road as I lived near there. I spent most of the walk home swearing i'd never go again. I hated Villa that night!
And we moan because of a 0-0 draw against Sunderland - Pffft...
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I've still got the programme for that Boro game, I think Alan Kerngahan is on the front. Stuart Gray scored for us to take it into extra time then we let in two. It was a long journey home.
Had a look for that Boro programme earllier and came across this.
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6504/w0f9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/w0f9.jpg/)
Nick Owen's Blackmail corner amused me.
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went to all of those Boro games - although strangely i too cannot recall the 5-0.
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Bloody hell you lot are like the boring sixth formers from school who were always quoting Monty Python.
Shut up and tell me the answer.
What, shut up and tell you the answer?
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I remember going up to Ayresome Park when we were in the second division. Bleak. We were in an uncovered corner of a half empty ground
Although the old barrel-roofed main stand was fantastic
And there were about 300 of us there, absolutely maximum. Valentine's day 1988
I think that was the first away game we went to after switching from the travellers club to premier entertainments. I went to Ayresome Park the following season too after we both got promoted. One or possibly even both of those games was a 3-3 draw.
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Bloody hell you lot are like the boring sixth formers from school who were always quoting Monty Python.
Shut up and tell me the answer.
What, shut up and tell you the answer?
Through the medium of mime...
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I remember going up to Ayresome Park when we were in the second division. Bleak. We were in an uncovered corner of a half empty ground
Although the old barrel-roofed main stand was fantastic
And there were about 300 of us there, absolutely maximum. Valentine's day 1988
I think that was the first away game we went to after switching from the travellers club to premier entertainments. I went to Ayresome Park the following season too after we both got promoted. One or possibly even both of those games was a 3-3 draw.
I was at that game on Valentines Day, it was a Sunday I think. We lost 2.1, from memory Bruno for us and Bernie Slaven with both of theirs after we went ahead.
My abiding memory is coming out of the ground and it seemed the whole of Middlesbrough was waiting outside with malice aforethought.
The trip back was a bit chilly with the back window of the bus broken.
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It is coming back to me now bit by bit. Didn't go to the game in early '88 but went with Premier for the first time for the top flight flight game towards the end of '88 which was a 3-3 draw. The first game we lost to two late goals I think. Shown live on ITV.
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The one I went to was a second division game but shown live on TV. I think we were first and second in the table at the time, or maybe second and third thinking about it as Millwall led pretty much from Xmas, I think.
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Looked up the Villa team: Spink, Gage, Gallacher, Lillis, Sims, McInally, Birch, Shaw, Thompson, Blair, Walters. Scarily, that was close to our first 11.
Gallacher makes Luna look like Leighton Baines
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A brief update on the Stripey at work. He waved as we passed on the stairs earlier. I consider it progress.
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I wouldn't hold my breath for a wave today.
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I see their game was delayed for 15 minutes. Was it to drum up more interest?
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Did any of them actually stay long enough to see their goals?
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A brief update on the Stripey at work. He waved as we passed on the stairs earlier. I consider it progress.
Was he going down? How very appropriate.
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They've gone very quiet haven't they.
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They've gone very quiet haven't they.
They're not a goal ahead.
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Boing Boing Baggies Shit!
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I see their game was delayed for 15 minutes. Was it to drum up more interest?
Well there was less than 23k there so it didn't work very well.
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Can they still see us from down there?
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I see their game was delayed for 15 minutes. Was it to drum up more interest?
Well there was less than 23k there so it didn't work very well.
10000 more than small Heath then
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1 win in 9. 2 points off the drop zone. Booing their manager (again), wanting him sacked (again).
We know what they are.
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They soon revert to being as important as Stoke or Norwich which is about, or slightly above, their level of irrelevance
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The sooner they change their name to FC Yo-Yo the better for all concerned.
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1 win in 9. 2 points off the drop zone. Booing their manager (again), wanting him sacked (again).
We know what they are.
I think they are bipolar.
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The 23,000 loyal Baggies fans crammed into that shed deserve better. I feel worse for the Blues massive though. They have some of the most knowledgable fans in the game. Pity yesterday they didn't tell the 13,000 other morons not to bother flogging a dead horse either.
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1 win in 9. 2 points off the drop zone. Booing their manager (again), wanting him sacked (again).
We know what they are.
I think they are bipolar.
F&%+ off. I'm bipolar and shall, in no way what so ever, be associated with that small time, paranoid, jealous shower of shite.
Anyway there are pharmacological treatments to temper the effects of bipolar disorder. For that lot there's no hope and no cure.
They're just depressing without the upswings bipolar brings.