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Title: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 12, 2012, 04:34:25 PM
Sat 15.12.12 KO 3pm

0-2 away win

Benteke 24
Weimann 78

Downing red card
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on December 12, 2012, 04:37:36 PM
1-1 draw for me, Benteke for us... who cares for them!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on December 12, 2012, 04:45:12 PM
1-0 Villa. Clark
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 12, 2012, 04:48:59 PM
I reckon a 1-1 draw Benteke.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on December 12, 2012, 04:50:29 PM
Liverpool 2-0 Villa

I hate playing Liverpool
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 12, 2012, 04:54:59 PM
0.2 Villa.   
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on December 12, 2012, 04:56:26 PM
We can do them. I hope we play with confidence and really make good use of the ball. If they get a foothold they will keep it thus tiring us out.

A draw would be a good result. 1-1
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 12, 2012, 05:03:14 PM
My heart is screaming that we're going to win, but to save internet humiliation I'll go with a 1-1.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'Zimidy on December 12, 2012, 05:14:15 PM
3-0 Villa win.

Lambert consistently shows up these so called passing teams like Arsenal and Swansea because he knows that if we work hard and put pressure on them, they will crumble. With Rodgers new style of play at Liverpool and his disastrous record against Lambert I think we will come out of this one with the three points.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 12, 2012, 05:23:09 PM
1-2 villa win

                            Guzan

            Vlaar.          Clark.     Baker

 Lowton.   Westwood. Bannan. Holman.    Bennett

                  Weimann.   Benteke
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on December 12, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Bennet will be fit?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 12, 2012, 05:30:48 PM
Bennet will be fit?

Hoping Bennett and Vlaar will be fit , if not I'd go with lichaj and herd but both are close to being available.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 12, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 12, 2012, 05:33:17 PM
1-2 villa win

                            Guzan

            Vlaar.        Baker.      Clark

 Lowton.   Westwood. Bannan. Holman.    Bennett

                  Weimann.   Benteke

I like that team, could work.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on December 12, 2012, 05:38:00 PM
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on December 12, 2012, 05:46:03 PM
1-2 villa win

                            Guzan

            Vlaar.        Baker.      Clark

 Lowton.   Westwood. Bannan. Holman.    Bennett

                  Weimann.   Benteke

Delph for Bannan purely for the shift he put in last night!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 12, 2012, 05:51:38 PM
I don't want to get carried away after one good win.

Liverpool 0 Villa 11.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan1975 on December 12, 2012, 06:02:27 PM
Liverpool to win 2-1 with Downing getting stretchered off and straight down the tunnel to hospital with a broken nail.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on December 12, 2012, 06:08:11 PM
Well according to some of their forums we will get battered. We are the worst team on the planet, have no idea how to play, are shaky at the back, useless without Bent, we'll just park the bus, we will get relegated, they should be hammering us out of sight and they haven't heard of most of our players.

Norwich result doesn't count, they just basically gave up when we scored the second. Our recent run against Sunderland, QPR, Stoke, Reading and Arsenal mean squat, all these teams are only marginally better than us.

I really hope they get a rude awakening...since when did redscouse become half decent again, or have I missed something?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on December 12, 2012, 06:16:05 PM
Liverpool 0
Villa 4  (Weimann, Benteke 2, Downing (20 million))

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on December 12, 2012, 06:26:48 PM
Liverpool win 2-0
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 12, 2012, 06:29:24 PM
1-2 villa win

                            Guzan

            Vlaar.        Baker.      Clark

 Lowton.   Westwood. Bannan. Holman.    Bennett

                  Weimann.   Benteke

I like that team, could work.

That's the team I was thinking of, with the possible exception of delph for bannan.

But worth thinking about liverpool's full backs, who are very attacking. Our best approach might e to play wide players up against them. For example gabby or nzogbia against Johnson; weimann or Holman against Enrique (or downing?!)

I think that would mean reverting to 4231 though so it possibly depends whether Vlaar is fit.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 12, 2012, 06:30:00 PM
A comfortable 1-3 away win. Leighton Phillips to open the scoring, a free kick from Tommy Craig and a late goal from Terry Donovan.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rutski on December 12, 2012, 06:31:28 PM
1-2 villa win

                            Guzan

            Vlaar.        Baker.      Clark

 Lowton.   Westwood. Bannan. Holman.    Bennett

                  Weimann.   Benteke

I like that team, could work.

That's the team I was thinking of, with the possible exception of delph for bannan.

But worth thinking about liverpool's full backs, who are very attacking. Our best approach might e to play wide players up against them. For example gabby or nzogbia against Johnson; weimann or Holman against Enrique (or downing?!)

I think that would mean reverting to 4231 though so it possibly depends whether Vlaar is fit.
no herd? baker in the middle?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 12, 2012, 06:33:48 PM
Liverpool 1 Villa 2.
Goals either side of half time from Bannan and Westwood put Villa in control. Nick Griffin scores for them on his debut, but we hold on for 3 points.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 12, 2012, 06:39:01 PM
Yeah obviously Clark in the middle of the three. I'd still pick Vlaar ahead of herd if fit

I do have a strange sense of confidence about this one. That normally a bad thing with villa
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 12, 2012, 06:54:06 PM
Yes sorry,Clark In the middle and baker on the left of the 3 - regarding Delph , I wasn't at the game last night but people seem to have been hugely impressed by him, I think it would be a tad harsh on bannan to be left out but i wouldn't mind Delph having a go in that role judging by what people have said about last night.

It's nice that we have options and people seem to be stepping up to the plate. The return of nzogbia is also very good news.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 12, 2012, 07:06:08 PM
Liverpool 2 Villa 1
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rutski on December 12, 2012, 07:18:45 PM
herd will play
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on December 12, 2012, 07:45:45 PM
Fucking 2-2

Benteke, Clark

Jon Jo Loitering round an outdoor and Freddie Mercury for them
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on December 12, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
I had a vision before going to sleep last night, N'Zogbia lofting a cross towards the penalty spot and Benteke steaming in, crumpling Skrtel, and thumping a header into the top corner, late on.

1-0 Villa.

They've got a manager who tries to plat the right way, we've got one that does.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on December 12, 2012, 07:53:21 PM
Racist FC 0-2 Villa .Benteke to be one cool motherfuker by scoring 2 and doing it wearing a long sheepskin coat to wind Goofy up.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 12, 2012, 08:03:45 PM
Fucking 2-2

Benteke, Clark

Jon Jo Loitering round an outdoor and Freddie Mercury for them

Nice use of the term 'outdoor'.  You don't hear it enough these days. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 12, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
It's ok John Jo, it's ok.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 12, 2012, 09:02:14 PM
Have gone for a draw but this could be any damned result!
With Suarez back for them it will be a "busy" time in our penalty area.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on December 12, 2012, 09:08:15 PM
Anyone know how likely it is that Vlaar and Bennett may be fit enough for selection?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 12, 2012, 09:23:40 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on December 12, 2012, 09:32:10 PM
Hopeful we can get a draw out of this 1-1
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 12, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on December 12, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.

Did we wear the all white one that day with the claret and blue piping? I loved that kit and wish we still played in it.

This is one of a select number of games I would love to win more than any other, with the possible exception of Chavski whom I also loathe. I still remember being out on the town on my summer hols in the south of France when we won there a couple of seasons back 3-1 and what a night that was...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SashasGrandad on December 12, 2012, 10:25:59 PM
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!

Probably the best first half of football played at VP.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chrisupnorth on December 13, 2012, 07:52:03 AM
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!

Probably the best first half of football played at VP.

Agree.  As a 14 year old stood on Holte with my brothers, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.  Fantastic memories. The second half performance was never going to be able to live up to the first.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on December 13, 2012, 08:23:08 AM
We will win.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 13, 2012, 08:44:03 AM
Back to earth with a bump. We'll lose it 2:0.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on December 13, 2012, 09:01:24 AM
We'll loose this one I reckon. 3-0 to the dippers.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on December 13, 2012, 09:13:12 AM
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!

Probably the best first half of football played at VP.

4-0 up after about 20mins and Keegan booked for dissent!......mmmm marvellous!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on December 13, 2012, 09:14:33 AM
I really fancy us to get a result on Saturday.
I expect we can get at least a draw but hope we can nick a win.

1-2 Villa   
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: montague on December 13, 2012, 09:19:46 AM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.

I think that was their first home defeat for about 2 years.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on December 13, 2012, 09:24:34 AM
We come of age and convert our LC form to the PL. Villa win 4-1 with a Benteke hat trick and Gerard being sent off. We move clear of the relegation zone and there is talk of a late charge into Europe.

Then I wake up.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 13, 2012, 09:27:16 AM
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!

remember it well. The 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' coach went past our car on the motorway and we looked at Ray Clemence and my Dad said' Hes going to have a back ache picking that ball out the net tonight '             
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 13, 2012, 09:29:31 AM
So Tom Daley is playing for them ?      Good horrible player thou , shame he wasnt banned for this.

I remember we sneaked a win up there in recent years but I think they are looking better .  1-1     Benteke and Daley for them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 13, 2012, 09:52:30 AM
Back to earth with a bump.  We'll be drawing, their star left back Downing will up-end Benteke in their area, Gerrard will tell the ref that the foul was actually on Suarez at the other end of the pitch, they score from the resultant penalty to go 2-1 up, Gerrard tells the ref there's no point playing the last 10 minutes so the penalty turns out to be the last kick of the game.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 13, 2012, 10:41:35 AM
I would go

Guzan
Herd Clark Baker
Lowton Westwood Bannan Lichaj
Nzogbia Weimann
Benteke
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 13, 2012, 10:55:54 AM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.
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I went to that game. Liverpool were virtually unbeatable at home at that time.
It was great to see their mighty Kop reduced to silence.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on December 13, 2012, 11:08:33 AM
We have capitualted against Liverpool on many an occasion. It is surely payback time. They haven't got the nastiness of earlier Liverpool sides. Nobody messes with Benteke.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 13, 2012, 11:14:54 AM
I would go

Guzan
Herd Clark Baker
Lowton Westwood Bannan Lichaj
Nzogbia Weimann
Benteke

Me too with possibly Delph in for Bannan based on Tuesday's form. 

And, Gabby on the bench poised like a coiled spring when Weimann may tire in the last 20 mins.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on December 13, 2012, 11:36:28 AM
I think we'll struggle as the shackles are put back on. 2 or 3-0 Liverpool.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on December 13, 2012, 11:58:09 AM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.
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I went to that game. Liverpool were virtually unbeatable at home at that time.
It was great to see their mighty Kop reduced to silence.


i also went to that game as a 15 year old,
 got absolutely battered outside the ground, my mate had his nose broken and was chased all over the place trying to get back to Lime street
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on December 13, 2012, 12:19:03 PM
I would go

Guzan
Herd Clark Baker
Lowton Westwood Bannan Lichaj
Nzogbia Weimann
Benteke

Me too with possibly Delph in for Bannan based on Tuesday's form. 

And, Gabby on the bench poised like a coiled spring when Weimann may tire in the last 20 mins.

Still think Bannan's a better bet than Delph at the moment, and he and Westwood have a real axis going at the moment.

I also don't quite think Zog has done enough to displace Holman, who was awesome on Tuesday, but it's good to see him rediscovering a bit of spark. In fact, I think he'd be the ideal impact sub once Holman customarily runs himself into the ground around 65 minutes, he could really cause problems with a bit more space to play in. Weimann or Gabby depends completely on Andy's fitness level right now, but on form it's definitely him.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on December 13, 2012, 12:26:40 PM
Interesting match thread on RAWK:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=300830.0

(The post-Norwich smell of fear starts kicking in on pages 3/4...)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 13, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
We'll loose this one I reckon. 3-0 to the dippers.

LOSE!

I miss the sugar factory in Carlow by the way.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on December 13, 2012, 01:19:28 PM

I don't rate em, and I really hate em. That said I just can't see us winning
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on December 13, 2012, 01:44:25 PM
Interesting match thread on RAWK:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=300830.0

(The post-Norwich smell of fear starts kicking in on pages 3/4...)


Glad I read that thread makes me hate them even more!

Massive delusions of grandeur in the red side of Liverpool! As for the moron giving his tacital analysis what Villa team is he talking about? We focus down the right and Gabby is the power player?  :o
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on December 13, 2012, 01:58:11 PM
Enrique apparantly out need to exploit Downing's defending weakness down the left

As for RAWK bunch of glory hunting twats I hope Liverpool never get near the top 4 again
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on December 13, 2012, 02:00:24 PM
Enrique apparantly out need to exploit Downing's defending weakness down the left

As for RAWK bunch of glory hunting twats I hope Liverpool never get near the top 4 again

Don't worry, they're already well into their slide, and it will be long and painful.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 13, 2012, 02:02:33 PM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.
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I went to that game. Liverpool were virtually unbeatable at home at that time.
It was great to see their mighty Kop reduced to silence.


i also went to that game as a 15 year old,
 got absolutely battered outside the ground, my mate had his nose broken and was chased all over the place trying to get back to Lime street

It was a hairy place to go all right. My biggest memory of that game apart from us beating them was of being showered with fireworks, particularly bangers by their moronic fans in the ground! Segregation was virtually non-existent in the Anfield Road end.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on December 13, 2012, 02:03:11 PM
Enrique apparantly out need to exploit Downing's defending weakness down the left

As for RAWK bunch of glory hunting twats I hope Liverpool never get near the top 4 again

I would play Herd in the right wing back role to kick the fuck out of Downing!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jarpie on December 13, 2012, 02:04:46 PM
Quote
After seeing Villa again, I'm going to up my prediction.

We are going to win this game upward of 4-0. I suspect 5-0, although 6-0 wouldn't be an unreasonable prediction. Villa are easily the worst side that I've ever seen in the top flight in decades. They are abysmal all over the pitch. No cohesion, no belief, no guts, no ability, no desire.

This, my friends, is going to be an absolute battering come the weekend. Villa are going to get absolutely pounded into the floor.

This will be the easiest game that Brendan Rodgers will ever have for this club.

(http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/9/9e/HA_HA_HA,_OH_WOW.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on December 13, 2012, 02:10:18 PM
Am I right in saying there was no streams available on Tuesday night for the Norwich game?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on December 13, 2012, 02:11:35 PM
Am I right in saying there was no streams available on Tuesday night for the Norwich game?

They don't seem to show the League Cup in Abu Dhabi.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on December 13, 2012, 02:16:08 PM
Interesting match thread on RAWK:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=300830.0

(The post-Norwich smell of fear starts kicking in on pages 3/4...)


Glad I read that thread makes me hate them even more!

Massive delusions of grandeur in the red side of Liverpool! As for the moron giving his tacital analysis what Villa team is he talking about? We focus down the right and Gabby is the power player?  :o
Some massive assumptions (with plenty of speculation treated as fact) in the opening post on there.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Eugene Fraxby on December 13, 2012, 02:53:06 PM
Interesting match thread on RAWK:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=300830.0

(The post-Norwich smell of fear starts kicking in on pages 3/4...)


Glad I read that thread makes me hate them even more!

Massive delusions of grandeur in the red side of Liverpool! As for the moron giving his tacital analysis what Villa team is he talking about? We focus down the right and Gabby is the power player?  :o
Some massive assumptions (with plenty of speculation treated as fact) in the opening post on there.

RAWKs Dish of the Day:

Massive Assumptions served with a thick Misplaced Arrogance Sauce and a side of Sense of Entitlement, liberally garnished with Ignorance and a generous sprinkle of Tactical Fuckwittery.

Mm-mmm!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: arnie66 on December 13, 2012, 03:14:16 PM
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!

I remember that game so well...was 10 years old and there with my dad......there were several scousers getting a good kicking in electric avenue afterwards
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 13, 2012, 03:23:50 PM
The classic lesson was learnt on merseyside - if a scouser asks you the time , never answer as the midlands accent gives you away.

It's their oldest trick for finding out away fans.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on December 13, 2012, 03:37:20 PM
We'll loose this one I reckon. 3-0 to the dippers.

LOSE!

I miss the sugar factory in Carlow by the way.

So do I miss it, my ability to spell "lose" has gone down the drain since it left us. Thanks Eamonn, it's good to know someone is looking out for me.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on December 13, 2012, 03:44:18 PM
Just when I realy want to hate them (well I do anyway), they go and post this....fair play to them

Quote
To all fans attending this weekend's game against Aston Villa:
As you are probably aware, Aston Villa's captain, Stiliyan Petrov, was diagnosed with acute leukaemia in March 2012. As a show of support for "Stan," Villa fans give their skipper an ovation with applause in the 19th minute of every home game.
This weekend, we intend to follow suit and give our own ovation, in unity with the travelling Villa fans, for Petrov. At the beginning of the 19th minute, we ask all fans to show their support and applaud for one minute.
Thank you.
Liverpool Supporters Union
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PGW on December 13, 2012, 03:47:23 PM
If the whole ground show their support will be quite emotional i imagine!!!! At an away ground i mean,we're used to it at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: arnie66 on December 13, 2012, 03:50:22 PM
Reading their forums...it's hardly worth us turning up....as they are going to batter us 5 or 6 nil.

Reminded me just how much I dislike their arrogance and superiority complex. 

I have tremendous respect for the Hillsborough families and their search for justice but when it comes to matters on the pitch they are just below MUFC on my despise list.

Praying for a Benteke winner in the last minute....followed by multiple crying scousers phoning radio 5 live to moan.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on December 13, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
It's interesting to see how much they rate (or fear) Benteke, being as he's been here such a short space of time.
I'm assuming that their knowledge of Villa being awful, cannon fodder, blah blah blah comes from thier extensive research of seeing us for 2 minutes at the end of MOTD.

Meanwhile  they seem to be that good that they must be challenging for the title...oh wait....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on December 13, 2012, 04:04:57 PM
Just when I realy want to hate them (well I do anyway), they go and post this....fair play to them

Quote
To all fans attending this weekend's game against Aston Villa:
As you are probably aware, Aston Villa's captain, Stiliyan Petrov, was diagnosed with acute leukaemia in March 2012. As a show of support for "Stan," Villa fans give their skipper an ovation with applause in the 19th minute of every home game.
This weekend, we intend to follow suit and give our own ovation, in unity with the travelling Villa fans, for Petrov. At the beginning of the 19th minute, we ask all fans to show their support and applaud for one minute.
Thank you.
Liverpool Supporters Union
Very nice gesture. Didn't we makes some sort of gesture around the time of the 10th anniversary of Hillsborough? Seem to recall Bosnich laying flowers in front of the kop.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on December 13, 2012, 04:44:39 PM
We'll out play them, just need to hope we score.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on December 13, 2012, 04:51:20 PM
Lambert had a very good record against Rodgers' Swansea last year, a record he kept up against a Swansea side who maintain the exact same principles, and whose only real difference from last year is that they're probably a little better this season. He seems to know how to play them, and I don't think it takes long to work out what it is: it's the mental, high-octance, high up the pitch pressing game which unsettles a side trying to play out from the back as devotedly as Rodgers' sides do. It's a lot like how Dortmund outclassed City with less possession earlier this season: City's control of the ball was always in deep areas and always under threat - in effect, Dortmund were so relentless they almost attacked without the ball.

For this reason, and for his excellent form showed at Norwich, Holman has to start for me, and would be crucial. Weimann also works insanely hard, and if he's not too tired from Tuesday should start ahead of Gabby. Zog and Gabby would be very good coming off the bench to give us freshness and pace in attack against a potentially tiring Liverpool defence, especially if the game is getting stretched at that point.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on December 13, 2012, 04:53:57 PM
Just read that thread at RAWK. Urgh. I hope we smash the smug egotistical bastards.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 13, 2012, 04:54:07 PM
"Just had a quick look on the villa forum and it's amazing how confident they are for this one...most of them predicting wins, some 'settling for a draw'. Really home we smash them, think it might finish 2-0/2-1 to us but predicting a nervy one."

How dare we be confident about getting a result against them at fortress Anfield
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 13, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
Tracksuited bindipper wrote
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I really do not like Villa... their fat chewing brummie, irritating accented, uneducated clowns of a fanbase..... i dislike them as much as Chelsea fans.

 :D
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on December 13, 2012, 05:29:37 PM
Tracksuited bindipper wrote
Quote
I really do not like Villa... their fat chewing brummie, irritating accented, uneducated clowns of a fanbase..... i dislike them as much as Chelsea fans.

 :D


i also had a snigger at that one
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 13, 2012, 05:31:33 PM
Tracksuited bindipper wrote
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I really do not like Villa... their fat chewing brummie, irritating accented, uneducated clowns of a fanbase..... i dislike them as much as Chelsea fans.

 :D

Almost makes us sound like their lot.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: arnie66 on December 13, 2012, 05:34:12 PM
Tracksuited bindipper wrote
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I really do not like Villa... their fat chewing brummie, irritating accented, uneducated clowns of a fanbase..... i dislike them as much as Chelsea fans.

Irritating accent.......anyone tried listening to Carragher do an interview
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on December 13, 2012, 05:54:52 PM
Tracksuited bindipper wrote
Quote
I really do not like Villa... their fat chewing brummie, irritating accented, uneducated clowns of a fanbase..... i dislike them as much as Chelsea fans.

Irritating accent.......anyone tried listening to Carragher do an interview


thats nothing, my Wife actually fancies Carragher, she doesnt follow football at all but when she has seen him in his suit in the TV studio has remarked on what a handsome fella he is

i kid you not
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on December 13, 2012, 06:08:58 PM
1-1 Benteke
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on December 13, 2012, 06:43:56 PM
Interesting match thread on RAWK:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=300830.0

(The post-Norwich smell of fear starts kicking in on pages 3/4...)


Glad I read that thread makes me hate them even more!

Massive delusions of grandeur in the red side of Liverpool! As for the moron giving his tacital analysis what Villa team is he talking about? We focus down the right and Gabby is the power player?  :o
Some massive assumptions (with plenty of speculation treated as fact) in the opening post on there.

RAWKs Dish of the Day:

Massive Assumptions served with a thick Misplaced Arrogance Sauce and a side of Sense of Entitlement, liberally garnished with Ignorance and a generous sprinkle of Tactical Fuckwittery.

Mm-mmm!

One of the RAWK regulars taking a break from posting :D

(http://i.imgur.com/MZBdK.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 13, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
"FKW"
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 13, 2012, 06:57:36 PM
1-2 villa win

                            Guzan

            Vlaar.          Clark.     Baker

 Lowton.   Westwood. Bannan. Holman.    Bennett

                  Weimann.   Benteke
2.1 Villa gets 33.1 at Coral.  2.0 is 90.1  - worth a punt!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on December 13, 2012, 07:27:13 PM
Interesting match thread on RAWK:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=300830.0

(The post-Norwich smell of fear starts kicking in on pages 3/4...)


Glad I read that thread makes me hate them even more!

Massive delusions of grandeur in the red side of Liverpool! As for the moron giving his tacital analysis what Villa team is he talking about? We focus down the right and Gabby is the power player?  :o
Some massive assumptions (with plenty of speculation treated as fact) in the opening post on there.

RAWKs Dish of the Day:

Massive Assumptions served with a thick Misplaced Arrogance Sauce and a side of Sense of Entitlement, liberally garnished with Ignorance and a generous sprinkle of Tactical Fuckwittery.

Mm-mmm!

One of the RAWK regulars taking a break from posting :D

(http://i.imgur.com/MZBdK.jpg)
That is the best scouse gay porn on the net at the moment. ;D
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 13, 2012, 07:33:05 PM
Looks almost like Downing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 13, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
Good God
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on December 13, 2012, 07:37:29 PM
I may be speaking out of turn but have a sneaking feeling we might whack these at the weekend. 3-1 to Villa and the Lord High Benteke with the last goal.

Frank, take note! Dust off the Ashley Young story...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on December 13, 2012, 08:09:23 PM
I am going 3-1 Villa aswell. We will be all over the scousers on Saturday.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 13, 2012, 08:31:24 PM
Oh the fickle nature of football supporters - one albeit outstanding result midweek and our season long low scoring side is going away to Anfield to give the home side a hiding.
I hope everyone's confidence is proved justified. Me, I'll be delighted with a point at a ground where we have a very poor record historically.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on December 13, 2012, 08:50:55 PM
Oh the fickle nature of football supporters - one albeit outstanding result midweek and our season long low scoring side is going away to Anfield to give the home side a hiding.
I hope everyone's confidence is proved justified. Me, I'll be delighted with a point at a ground where we have a very poor record historically.
Cheer up Big Dick Edwards ffs, we are on the crest of a wave and we will beat them on Saturday,( although a point will be a blinder ) ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 13, 2012, 09:49:26 PM
Oh the fickle nature of football supporters - one albeit outstanding result midweek and our season long low scoring side is going away to Anfield to give the home side a hiding.
I hope everyone's confidence is proved justified. Me, I'll be delighted with a point at a ground where we have a very poor record historically.
Cheer up Big Dick Edwards ffs, we are on the crest of a wave and we will beat them on Saturday,( although a point will be a blinder ) ;)
Yes,  we are hoping,  like Jan 93

Bloody 20 years ago.   It was the 9th Jan,..   We made some noise that day.  Kop.  blah,blah
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 13, 2012, 10:19:19 PM
Ah those Liverpool fans are a delusional bunch aren't they.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jeowje on December 13, 2012, 11:12:46 PM
We have had a few good wins at anfield over the last decade, I sense another one, could be the one that gets Brendan Rogers the sack a la Bobby Roson, Jose Mourinho...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on December 14, 2012, 01:05:06 AM
Ah bless, they are priceless aren't they! Some really do have a chip on their shoulder. I guess they know deep down that they have won all those titles but they will never have class.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 14, 2012, 06:39:58 AM
The classic lesson was learnt on merseyside - if a scouser asks you the time , never answer as the midlands accent gives you away.

It's their oldest trick for finding out away fans.

Shame for those brummie reds then. 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: devilla on December 14, 2012, 07:43:08 AM
They're not the side they were and whatever their fans think, the table doesn't lie. I fancy 2 1 to us, Holman and Benteke. Gerrard for them from a penalty after Suarez trips over a blade of grass that was just a bit too long.

Anyone know if Vlaar is fit for this one?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 14, 2012, 07:46:54 AM
If its half past two presumably you'd be ok? It's just if its a quarter to foive that you have a problem?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 14, 2012, 08:02:19 AM
The classic lesson was learnt on merseyside - if a scouser asks you the time , never answer as the midlands accent gives you away.

It's their oldest trick for finding out away fans.

Wily Scousers, eh. I bet every other football hooligan in Britain has never thought of that one.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 14, 2012, 08:42:04 AM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.

Did we wear the all white one that day with the claret and blue piping? I loved that kit and wish we still played in it.
Yes the white Umbro top with light blue shorts.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on December 14, 2012, 09:01:22 AM
I've been away and not managed to actually see the last few games.
Are we now lining up 3-5-2 every week and ditched the 4-2-3-1?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jeowje on December 14, 2012, 09:11:24 AM
In fairness, there were quite a few balanced views on that Liverpool forum, many of them gave us respect and were highly praising Bentekke, and one summed up our generally differing views from theirs on the likely outcome very aptly as 'One set of one-eyed supporters in failing to understand optimism of other one-eyed set of supporters shocker'.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 14, 2012, 09:21:09 AM
Anyone going up on the coaches ?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on December 14, 2012, 09:45:55 AM
For any of you staying up there tonight, I've just been told by someone "who knows" that the boys are staying at the Crowne Plaza at John Lennon airport tonight if you want to go along to try and get some autographs.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jeowje on December 14, 2012, 10:02:44 AM
Unsurprisingly, Lawro has gone for a 2-0 to Liverpool.

Aside from the obvious Scouse-arse licking, does he EVER predict an upset?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on December 14, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
T
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!

Probably the best first half of football played at VP.

The best second half would have to be (for me) collymore's 2 goals contributing to a 3-2 win over arsenal.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: johnny from donny on December 14, 2012, 10:27:36 AM
has lawro predicted us to win any games at all this season? Got to be honest, i would take a draw
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 14, 2012, 10:29:13 AM
Unsurprisingly, Lawro has gone for a 2-0 to Liverpool.

Aside from the obvious Scouse-arse licking, does he EVER predict an upset?

To be fair it's probably a fairly likely result. Obviously I'm hoping we hammer them, but it's not an unbelievable prediction.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 14, 2012, 10:50:31 AM
Unsurprisingly, Lawro has gone for a 2-0 to Liverpool.

Aside from the obvious Scouse-arse licking, does he EVER predict an upset?
Or even a draw? He has us down to be to lose every week,no matter who we're playing
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 14, 2012, 10:59:18 AM
Vlaar still out, that's a blow.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SuperSub on December 14, 2012, 11:03:03 AM
T
Being as the date this coming Saturday is 15th December; older fans will remember 15th December, 1976 when we trounced the 'Pool 5-1 at Villa Park! If the omens are correct, it'll be 1-5 to us! However, realistically, I reckon a hard-fought draw 1-1. But, you never know!!

Probably the best first half of football played at VP.

The best second half would have to be (for me) collymore's 2 goals contributing to a 3-2 win over arsenal.

Think that was Joachim and Dublin, not Collymore. Although if I remember, he came off the bench and played incredibly well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 14, 2012, 11:04:35 AM
Gabby is also a doubt
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on December 14, 2012, 11:27:58 AM
Vlaar still out, that's a blow.

Another opportunity for our young defence. Baker and Clark have looked solid the past few games.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 14, 2012, 11:31:21 AM
Vlaar still out, that's a blow.

Another opportunity for our young defence. Baker and Clark have looked solid the past few games.

True, but my fear is they're both a bit injury prone as well. We're looking very light at centre back. We could really do with Bennett being back as well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 14, 2012, 11:40:14 AM
Vlaar unlikely to be fit, gabby a doubt. Not sure about the left backs but I presume still out. Edit: q actually both left backs seem to be ok
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on December 14, 2012, 11:45:11 AM
Unsurprisingly, Lawro has gone for a 2-0 to Liverpool.

Aside from the obvious Scouse-arse licking, does he EVER predict an upset?

Yes. Liverpool winning 2-0.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Eugene Fraxby on December 14, 2012, 12:19:14 PM
Will be interesting to see whether he sticks with the 3-5-2.

I expect a tight game but Liverpool to win.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 14, 2012, 01:12:13 PM
I reckon he may stick with 3-5-2,especially if Gab is out. so maybe it'll be,
Guzan,

Clark,
Herd,
Baker,

Lowton,
Westwood,
Bannan,
Delph,
Lichaj,

Weimann,
Benteke

Enrique could be out for them,so hopefully weasel face could be at lb for them,Lowton should fancy his chances if so.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 14, 2012, 01:12:39 PM
1-1.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 14, 2012, 01:15:39 PM
Enrique could be out for them,so hopefully weasel face could be at lb for them,Lowton should fancy his chances if so.

If Lambert decides to forsake the result and play Benteke right wing just for the sheer comedy value of it, I think I could forgive him!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on December 14, 2012, 01:24:53 PM
Enrique could be out for them,so hopefully weasel face could be at lb for them,Lowton should fancy his chances if so.

If Lambert decides to forsake the result and play Benteke right wing just for the sheer comedy value of it, I think I could forgive him!

Now that I would pay to see.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 14, 2012, 01:33:15 PM
You could stick Wee Barry out on the right and it would probably have the same effect.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: johncvilla88 on December 14, 2012, 01:43:54 PM
has lawro predicted us to win any games at all this season? Got to be honest, i would take a draw

Yes 2 but he also predicted QPR to win 7! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20715607 (see bottom)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 14, 2012, 01:45:22 PM
Of all our front men as potential partners for Benteke, I think Weimann stands out. I think the way he plays and his technical ability could really work well. He's got great potential and right now we could get a lot of joy partnering him with an on fire Benteke, as the Norwich game showed. I'd stick with that. Andy works hard too, gets in the game. He filled a wide role reasonably well, but he's a striker firstly.

At the back, though Vlaar is still out, I'm quite confident in Herd, Clark and Baker. In fact Ron has a lot of work to do to usurp any of them if they keep it up.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on December 14, 2012, 01:49:17 PM
has lawro predicted us to win any games at all this season? Got to be honest, i would take a draw

Yes 2 but he also predicted QPR to win 7! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20715607 (see bottom)

He must be losing his touch. He has forgotten to include his obligatory line about how "Villa are a selling club."
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maigrait on December 14, 2012, 02:05:42 PM
I'm sensing we'll get something from the game... 1-1
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 14, 2012, 02:10:22 PM
has lawro predicted us to win any games at all this season? Got to be honest, i would take a draw

Yes 2 but he also predicted QPR to win 7! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20715607 (see bottom)

He must be losing his touch. He has forgotten to include his obligatory line about how "Villa are a selling club."
Does it not occur to Lawro that they may be playing us at the wrong time .I'm sure they would have much preferred to have been playing us 2 months ago
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on December 14, 2012, 02:21:19 PM
I've gone with the draw! 1-1.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on December 14, 2012, 02:23:43 PM
Well I had stoke down for an easy win, and I though Norwich would beat us easily.

So I am going to go for a comfortable 2-0 win the the Bin Dippers
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 14, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
I'm no fan of Lawrenson, haven't been since the Fred West business, but a Liverpool win is the obvious result to pick.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 14, 2012, 02:25:06 PM
Bent will be put a few weeks, Vlaar still out and having another scan today and gabby doubtful.
The good news is Bennett and Stevens are both fit .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on December 14, 2012, 02:29:13 PM
Unsurprisingly, Lawro has gone for a 2-0 to Liverpool.

Aside from the obvious Scouse-arse licking, does he EVER predict an upset?

Yep he picked Everton win at Citeh a couple of weeks ago because and I quote 'every week there is an upset in the Premiership' Unfotunately that week it was Swansea who won at Arsenal

This contradicts his otherwise very predictable predictions - Liverpool v Big Club (1-1) anyone.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 14, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
Liverpool have struggled a little. I do think Rodgers long term will do well given the chance and money to sculpt his own side and rid himself of dross like Downing. But I think at the moment they'll not fancy playing us, and I don't see us losing it. It'll be tight. I think we can sneak this one. Keep Saurez quiet and I think we'll win it. Benteke could well have a field day against their backline and I actually think Weimann (if he starts up top) could be the main beneficiary.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on December 14, 2012, 03:25:30 PM
I'm going for a Villa win 2-1, don't know why, just have an optimistic feeling we might be on a bit of a roll  ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr_Fegg on December 14, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
Heart says villa win, head says draw.

1-1 away from home and another point on the board would be a good result and maintain our momentum as the side continues to gel.

Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on December 14, 2012, 04:02:24 PM
Suarez 1-0
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on December 14, 2012, 04:14:59 PM
A stonking 1-0 win to Villa. Gabby.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 14, 2012, 04:18:30 PM
Vlaar unlikely to be fit, gabby a doubt. Not sure about the left backs but I presume still out. Edit: q actually both left backs seem to be ok

Bennett and Stevens are both fit according to today's press conference on the official site.
Bent out for a few weeks, Vlaar having scan today and out and gabby very doubtful.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 14, 2012, 05:26:00 PM
Looking at it objectively, you'd have to think Liverpool are strong favourites. But I have a funny feeling N'Zogbia is going to come on for the last 20 minutes and make a significant difference.

Looking at the Liverpool side, Suarez apart, it's pretty ordinary. But better than ours still at the moment probably. I wonder if the 352 will give their full backs quite a lot of space to play with?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on December 14, 2012, 05:34:12 PM
A draw I reckon.  We don't quite have enough about us yet to win games like this but I don't think they will have enough to break down what is becoming a pretty effective defensive unit.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on December 14, 2012, 06:53:26 PM
I think we could well see Downing played on the left to keep Lowton busy then Liverpool will concentrate on the right with Johnson and Sterling so Lichaj (presumably) is in for a busy afternoon.  He had an awful time at QPR against Wright-Phillips and Bosingwa so it could be Stevens or Bennett might start.  Gabby will not be missed on recent form and it will be good to see Weimann getting another chance with Benteke.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 14, 2012, 08:09:10 PM
I have a funny feeling N'Zogbia is going to come on for the last 20 minutes and make a significant difference.

I've had the same feeling for the past 16 months and I'm still waiting for N'Zogbia to do something. Maybe a 20 yarder curler into the top corner in front of the Kop will push up his value and we can flog him in January.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 14, 2012, 08:50:56 PM
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Paul Lambert believes his emerging team will thrive at Anfield on Saturday.

Lambert is a big admirer of Liverpool - past and present - and believes they are on the right road under big-thinking boss Brendan Rodgers.

Anfield is known as one of the towering coliseums of football in this country, where bottle and belief are needed in abundance from opposing players.

Lambert has backed his side to show those qualities and give Liverpool a real battle in their own backyard.

He's under no illusions, however, at the size of the task facing his team with Liverpool also in fine form after coming back to beat West Ham at Upton Park on Monday.

He said: "My players will thrive on it. They will love the atmosphere and the occasion of it.

"It's a really prestigious stadium and the players who have played there, past and present, have been world-class. Arguably the greatest playerto come out of Liverpool is Kenny Dalglish!

"They have won European Cups, League Championships and it is a club steeped in tradition.

"I know how hard it is going to be. They have got some great players at the minute too! Brendan has a really good side there.

"I know Brendan very well, he's a great guy and he did a brilliant job at Swansea. He's then gone to Liverpool and got them going.

"It will be a good atmosphere and something we will try and enjoy.

"We're doing really fine. The other night the lads were excellent the way they went about things but regardless of that result, Liverpool was always going to be tough.

"We've always said that it's important not to let the mood go down when you lose and we will try and keep things in perspective now we've won.

"Regardless of Tuesday, going to Anfield was always going to be difficult. But we are going to try to win it."

Lambert sends his side out at Anfield on the back of a five-match unbeaten streak, which has seen some very promising signs for the present and the future.

He's been very happy with the progress made and thinks belief is growing in both the team collective and the players as individuals.

He continued: "We've had two defeats in eleven matches, it is not too bad is it. I think people think because we are young we are not going to do this or that. They are getting the credit now they deserve because they are playing really well.

"Since the win at Sunderland we've been doing really well and I don't have a problem with performances.

"Yes, you'd like to have more points on the board but the one thing I can't argue with is the effort and the way they are playing. Only Man Utd and Man City have beaten us during that run and that shows how well we are playing at the moment.

"There are a lot of young lads, a lot of enthusiasm and energy, and we are playing with freedom which is great.

"You sense they are playing well. They have got the belief to go and win. A lot has been made of being young but they are good enough and that's the belief I have got."

One player who's certainly playing with belief and confidence is Andreas Weimann, who was the star man at Carrow Road with his two-goal salvo.

With Darren Bent injured for "several weeks" thanks to a hamstring tear and Gabby Agbonlahor a doubt for the clash too, there's a strong chance Weimann could get the nod at Anfield.

He was benched for the games against Reading, QPR and Stoke but Lambert was keen to stress this decision wasn't as a result of a negative in his previous performances.

He made it clear it was because Weimann was crying out for a rest because of the enormous amounts of energy he'd expended in that period of pitch-action.

He added: "The reason I left Andi out was because he was running himself into the ground. It wasn't a case of leaving him out through choice. I had to protect him. I never dropped him.

"I had to give him a break because his work-rate has been extremely high. The run of games he's been on, and playing in the wide right area, he has done a hell of a lot of running.

"I gave him a little break and he came on and his finishing was absolutely brilliant at Norwich.

"The one thing about Andi is that he knows where the goal is and is a natural finisher."

Let's hope he puts Liverpool to the sword on Saturday!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 14, 2012, 10:07:38 PM
I'd definitely play Stevens or Bennett ahead of lichaj.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 14, 2012, 10:42:27 PM
I am not being negative. But i really think we need a pacy LB who can get up the pitch to add some width to our attacks. Lowton seems to be getting futher forward and we need that to be balanced on the left side so we do not become predictable ....
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on December 14, 2012, 11:24:23 PM
Unbeaten run continues ...

Them 2 - 2 Us

Benteke & Weimann.  Sir Nick-a-Lot for them.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on December 15, 2012, 01:15:31 AM
I am not being negative. But i really think we need a pacy LB who can get up the pitch to add some width to our attacks. Lowton seems to be getting futher forward and we need that to be balanced on the left side so we do not become predictable ....

Hopefully Bennett will provide that width on the left hand side.  From the little we saw of him before he got injured, I thought he looked like he would be suited to the wing-back role.   
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on December 15, 2012, 01:26:50 AM
Bent will get a run out and score a goal. We will win and Liverpool will put in a bid for him early next month. It will be a Happy New year all round.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 15, 2012, 01:43:35 AM
Bent will get a run out and score a goal. We will win and Liverpool will put in a bid for him early next month. It will be a Happy New year all round.

Bent is crocked until the New Year.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tom jennings IV on December 15, 2012, 06:54:56 AM
I think a win at Anfield is just a step too far at the moment, even taking in to account their own "transition phase". Should be a good game though with both teams playing decent football under the new managers and both teams equally happy to chuck in a couple of defensive clangers per game to keep it interesting.

Scousers 1 - 1 Villa (Benteke)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on December 15, 2012, 08:29:56 AM
Liverpool's open style should suit us; 1-1 or possibly 1-2 with a late goal from Bowery (well, it'd be a dream for the kid, wouldn't it?!).
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 15, 2012, 08:55:21 AM
I'd definitely play Stevens or Bennett ahead of lichaj.
I'd agree on Stevens, not seen enough of Bennett but I've seen enough of Lichaj .
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 15, 2012, 09:17:26 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20735575

Aiming unrealistically high, he fits in really well at Anfield.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 15, 2012, 09:31:13 AM
I think one or two people are getting carried away on this thread. I hope I'll be proved wrong, but I think this could be another frustrating outing.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 15, 2012, 09:38:21 AM
I think we'll lose, so I'm really really hoping I'm proved wrong.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on December 15, 2012, 09:38:50 AM
They will beat us as normal...
(just want to be  wrong though!)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 15, 2012, 09:41:02 AM
I actually think Liverpoo should be higher than where they are . they have played some decent football without getting the results
and suarez is a world class striker . They are slowly getting better too.  I would be seriously over the moon If we dont lose today .
That would be an awesome result.    Play like we did against Norwich , we can get a point , play like we did against Reading , we will be stuffed.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 15, 2012, 09:41:40 AM
Think it could be a cracking game as I can see both teams just going for it. There is no point sitting back and defending so we may aswell just go at their jugular.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on December 15, 2012, 10:23:32 AM
I have a funny feeling N'Zogbia is going to come on for the last 20 minutes and make a significant difference.

I've had the same feeling for the past 16 months and I'm still waiting for N'Zogbia to do something. Maybe a 20 yarder curler into the top corner in front of the Kop will push up his value and we can flog him in January.

I've been saying the same, bt it actually happened on Tuesday.

He really looked the part when he came on.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 15, 2012, 11:07:04 AM
Was shocked how well Nzogbia contributed when he came on. I am hoping Lambert has spotted something in him which can make him "tick" he seems a very sensitive complex player who has to be made to feel part of a team/group. Not getting carried away but he could become that spark from midfield we need to ignite our front line. Would start with Holman though. Downing could be playing LB and i am sure Lambert will be targeting this as a weak link.  Strangely not as pessimistic as usual of this fixture. 0-1 Weimann ........
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on December 15, 2012, 11:11:23 AM
The 77 away win at anfield (2-1 Gray x 2) is still I think the game that made me fall in love with the club. I remember sitting watching MOTD as a kid with my mom, mesmerised that we'd won there and then I had that beautiful kit for Xmas and didn't take it off until about July.
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I went to that game. Liverpool were virtually unbeatable at home at that time.
It was great to see their mighty Kop reduced to silence.


i also went to that game as a 15 year old,
 got absolutely battered outside the ground, my mate had his nose broken and was chased all over the place trying to get back to Lime street

It was a hairy place to go all right. My biggest memory of that game apart from us beating them was of being showered with fireworks, particularly bangers by their moronic fans in the ground! Segregation was virtually non-existent in the Anfield Road end.

Remember it well. I was at Liverpool Uni. at the time, and was in with the Liverpool supporters. Couldn.t celebrate until I was well clear of the ground. Remember it was a good night back at halls. Think it was the first game against them after the 5-1 thrashing as well.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on December 15, 2012, 11:13:21 AM
Was shocked how well Nzogbia contributed when he came on. I am hoping Lambert has spotted something in him which can make him "tick" he seems a very sensitive complex player who has to be made to feel part of a team/group. Not getting carried away but he could become that spark from midfield we need to ignite our front line. Would start with Holman though. Downing could be playing LB and i am sure Lambert will be targeting this as a weak link.  Strangely not as pessimistic as usual of this fixture. 0-1 Weimann ........

Wouldn't be surprised if N'Zog started today after the impact he had on Tue.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 15, 2012, 11:31:23 AM
I actually think Liverpoo should be higher than where they are . they have played some decent football without getting the results
and suarez is a world class striker . They are slowly getting better too.  I would be seriously over the moon If we dont lose today .
That would be an awesome result.    Play like we did against Norwich , we can get a point , play like we did against Reading , we will be stuffed.

Suarez is a good player, but world class?  Not for me.  Liverpool are nothing more than a solid top half team these days and we shouldn't go there fearing them.  I'd take a draw as I would at most premier league grounds.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: seanthevillan on December 15, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
I actually think Liverpoo should be higher than where they are . they have played some decent football without getting the results
and suarez is a world class striker . They are slowly getting better too.  I would be seriously over the moon If we dont lose today .
That would be an awesome result.    Play like we did against Norwich , we can get a point , play like we did against Reading , we will be stuffed.

Suarez is a good player, but world class?  Not for me.  Liverpool are nothing more than a solid top half team these days and we shouldn't go there fearing them.  I'd take a draw as I would at most premier league grounds.

If you look at Suarez's record for club and country over the last few years its hard to argue with him being world class - won major honours at the Copa America (where he was player of the tournament), key player in the World Cup squad, 1 in 2 at international level, etc etc.

Also he has been one of the best players in the league this season, if we keep him anything like quiet we'll have done a good job.

With regards to Roger's 2nd place claim, this kind of hubris normally gets exposed pretty quickly in sport - hopefully starting today.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on December 15, 2012, 11:42:07 AM
Suarez is a grade a twat but no doubting he is a very good player....look forward to a big club buying him
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on December 15, 2012, 11:51:59 AM
i think Suarez is the best player in the premiership, he's also the most odious
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 15, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
Still think (or at least hope) we can get a point today, but worried that if we concede early and start chasing the game we could take a 3 goal beating.

Admiral's Pie at the ready!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on December 15, 2012, 11:56:07 AM
Yep, as horrible as he is, Suarez is a brilliant footballer and more than capable of winning games for them. Aside from him though, I'm not convinced Liverpool are that good at all, and we should, given a good tactical set-up and whatnot, be able to get a draw up there.

If it was me in charge, I think I'd be inclined to really have a go at them, get the ball forward fast to Benteke and pressurize their back line - in fact chase them down all over the park as I have heard from a good source that up 'em, they do not like it.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on December 15, 2012, 12:13:03 PM
You can get 9-1 with some bookies for a Villa win. Straight! Unbelievable!
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 15, 2012, 12:30:48 PM
Greetings from a sunny Goodison car park. I know that £10 is steep for parking but my car drives better on wheels than it does on bricks:)
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on December 15, 2012, 12:36:40 PM
You can get 9-1 with some bookies for a Villa win. Straight! Unbelievable!
Really ! Really might have a slice of that
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 15, 2012, 12:46:07 PM
World class is Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta and a handful of others.  Luis Suarez is, for me, very good, but not quite great.  Just my opinion of course, but it's one that seems to be shared by the proper/rich big clubs as the cheating little scrote is still at upper mid-table Liverpool. 

They have been a great club, but the aren't currently anywhere near being great.  Fuck it, I'm changing my prediction.  0-2 Villa. 





 
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on December 15, 2012, 12:53:04 PM
After the midweek high I will be if we gat a point out of this one, I don't want our little bubble to get deflated to quickly, and to be fair in our current state a point off the bin dippers would be a good one.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 15, 2012, 12:57:51 PM
Thats a good point about a point fergal
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: seanthevillan on December 15, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
World class is Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta and a handful of others.  Luis Suarez is, for me, very good, but not quite great.  Just my opinion of course, but it's one that seems to be shared by the proper/rich big clubs as the cheating little scrote is still at upper mid-table Liverpool.
 

Good point, I suppose if you define world class as one of the 2/3 best players in a position it's harder to argue for Suarez. I was thinking more along the lines of being able to make a difference at the highest level. The 'cheating little scrote' part has obviously gone un-argued.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 15, 2012, 01:29:15 PM
A win today will almost certainly see us rise 3 places with saints not playing, Sunderland at Man U and Newcastle already losing 0-2 at home to citeh- would be nice to get out of the bottom 6 and I think we will win 2-1.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 15, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
World class is Messi, Ronaldo, Iniesta and a handful of others.  Luis Suarez is, for me, very good, but not quite great.  Just my opinion of course, but it's one that seems to be shared by the proper/rich big clubs as the cheating little scrote is still at upper mid-table Liverpool.
 

Good point, I suppose if you define world class as one of the 2/3 best players in a position it's harder to argue for Suarez. I was thinking more along the lines of being able to make a difference at the highest level. The 'cheating little scrote' part has obviously gone un-argued.

Yeah, it does come down to definitions I guess.   You can certainly call him a match-winner.  Hopefully not today though...
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 15, 2012, 02:08:02 PM
Any team news?
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on December 15, 2012, 02:12:41 PM
Guzan, Lowton, Baker, Clark [c], Lichaj, Holman, Westwood, Bannan, Herd, Weimann, Benteke

subs: Given, Bowery, El Ahmadi, N’Zogbia, Bennett, Delph, Albrighton.

Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Downing, Allen, Lucas, Gerrard, Sterling, Shelvey, Suarez.

subs: Jones, Wisdom, Suso, Cole, Carragher, Henderson, Coates.
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 15, 2012, 02:15:35 PM
the DJ at the Fuhrerbunker is playing some right crap
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 15, 2012, 02:17:28 PM
Downing at left back by the looks of it.

Also, im sure that I saw Gabby get off the bus
Title: Re: Liverpool v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on December 15, 2012, 02:34:53 PM
I'd definitely play Stevens or Bennett ahead of lichaj.
I'd agree on Stevens, not seen enough of Bennett but I've seen enough of Lichaj .

I'd play Lichaj played well midweek even grabbing an assist.
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