Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 30, 2012, 08:14:58 PM
-
Available Tuesday evening.
-
Never in doubt..........Why do they do it us?
-
A cruise in Wiltshire, pah what was all the fuss about.
-
Maybe the Benteke haters will give him some slack now. 4 in 7 for us. Fuck me we made hard work of it, then again, it wouldn't be the Villa if we didn't.
-
I had a medical today. Blood pressure slightly high, any reason for this asks the Doc. Villa fan was my reply. I really don't enjoy ths at all.
-
Well that was an exciting finish, wasn't it?
-
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/benteke1.jpg)
-
Quiet in here isn't it.
-
Unbeaten in.... 2 games! And quite rightly so too :-\
-
As predicted a nerve shredding affair, the Villa will be the fuckin death of me.
-
Final goal came from a cut back from lichaj - a defender pushing on and providing some WIDTH.
Please can you take this on board Mr Lambert .
-
SSN just shown all the goals, they all look good to me, even Swindon's.
-
If you ignore the massive pile of cack second half, quite a good performance.
-
Great stuff! Glad to see Gabby get on the scoresheet too.
-
I fell asleep at 2-0 and woke up seconds before our third went in, so it's been a stroll from my perspective.
-
Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up drinking. Bloody Hell Villa
-
33% possession against a League 1 side is pretty poor but job done in spite of our best efforts to fcuk it up. Just imagine if we won this and then got relegated - sorry, stupid thought, no team does that. When's the draw for the quarter final?
-
H & V isn't working very well tonight. Took me about ten minutes to post my thoughts!
-
H & V isn't working very well tonight. Took me about ten minutes to post my thoughts!
Same here.
-
I did offer up a Swindon win for a Villa victory on Saturday. When Swindon equalised I thought karma was taking the piss.
-
Good result. Good for strikers to both score. Lets take this momentum into the league now. Good to be in the draw for QF's.
Think positive!
-
H & V isn't working very well tonight. Took me about ten minutes to post my thoughts!
Same here.
Trying to find out what the problem is.
-
The defensive situation is a little worrying. Having to rejig the entire back four apart from Vlaar can't have helped much. Hope one of Herd, Baker or Clark is fit for Saturday.
-
Paul Lambert praised his side as "brilliant" for showing the courage to beat Swindon in the dying seconds of the Capital One Cup fourth round clash.
Lambert was pleased with what he saw as Villa raced into a two-goal lead at the County Ground at half-time.
But he admitted his team showed complacency to let the Robins storm back to 2-2.
However, the manager was relieved to see two-goal hero Christian Benteke smash home the winner with mere seconds to play.
He said: "We were really comfortable and then all of a sudden we became complacent for some reason and that gives the crowd a lift. I thought it was our doing because at two-nil we were doing ever so well.
"They get the goal and then they hit us again. Then the crowd go up another notch.
"But I thought the team were brilliant to get the result and finish the game off after Swindon gave it a go.
"It's never an easy place. I know that from experience - a smaller team taking on a big team. We had nothing to gain. I thought my team were excellent.
"I was very pleased with the goals too. I thought Gabby's goal was world-class and Christian's last one was fantastic. The first one was great too.
"It was great to get three goals when you bring this many fans - around 3,500 I believe all coming here on a Tuesday night. I am pretty sure they will be delighted with that. It was a terrific atmosphere."
-
'HTTP error 504' is all I've been able to see since we were 2-1 up.
Is the game over yet?
-
'HTTP error 504' is all I've been able to see since we were 2-1 up.
Is the game over yet?
Finished 7-5.
-
I took 17/2 on Arsenal getting a (90 minute) draw at 4- 1 down. I feel like I've just guaranteed us an away QF at the Emirates. Sorry.
And I only put £2 on which, if I take it in 50 pence-pieces, only just equates to more than 30 pieces of silver.
-
A win is a win and they're all welcome.
Third League Cup quarter final in four seasons?
-
Website seems to have sorted itself out now. When's the draw for the quarter finals then? I'm praying for anyone at home so I can go.
-
Can you hear the Benders sing? Nooooooo?
-
Great win - that's all you need in the cup. Probably the death knell for Bent's Villa career - be interesting to see if he drops Benteke after scoring two games in a row like he did with Bent. Still don't understand why they were so poor throughout and why he continues to make strange substitutions - Delph for Bannan for example. Still a win is a win is a win. Did we get to the semi final of the Milk Cup the last time we were relegated or was that the year before?!
-
Only two pages for the post match thread?
The cynic in me thinks it would have been more than that had we lost but who knows...
Glad we won, second half a shocker but great for us to score the late winner rather than concede it and safely through to the quarter finals and nice to see Benteke and Gabby on the scoresheet
Bradford at home in the next round please!
-
^ I think it was that year from memory. Lost to the might of Oxford !!
-
We were 'Brilliant'?!
Good to have H&V up and running so I can infect the place with my obscure random thoughts ;)
-
As others have said, we'll take a win in any competition at the moment. A home QF draw against any of the other winners tonight bar Asenal would be very welcome.
-
^ I think it was that year from memory. Lost to the might of Oxford !!
The year before. Year we went down we lost in round 4 at Southampton.
-
We were 'Brilliant'?!
Good to have H&V up and running so I can infect the place with my obscure random thoughts ;)
I'm guessing he means attitude rather than actual performance.
-
I like goalscorers who score goals. For all Bent's undoubted class, he has plenty to do to get ahead of Benteke now.
-
At least it wasn't Donny.
-
Benteke's finishes were class - quite excited by him now. I would have Bent playing alongside him though any day of the week.
-
We were 'Brilliant'?!
Good to have H&V up and running so I can infect the place with my obscure random thoughts ;)
I'm guessing he means attitude rather than actual performance.
All managers see a totally different game to the rest of us, even Fergie and Wenger do.
-
Into the next round, that's all I care!
-
Just saw our winner on Sky News. Great finish and great reaction from our fans. UTFV
-
Bradford at home in the QF please.
-
I hope Di Canio goes to bed and relives the match in his sleep.
At 2-2 he starts to see Madge getting her kit off - then at the last minute she gets up and walks out to be replaced by Nora Batty!
-
I had to go out to unblock the drain when we were 2-0 up. Came in just in time to hear the third go in so thought 3-0 it is. Can't believe I missed the excitement!
-
I was fearing the worst before this game so I'm happy with the victory and pleased for Benteke.
Let's hope it gives us a boost for saturday and we can continue our unbeaten run!
-
Shit yes, we're now on an 'unbeaten run'. Awesome
-
People who said they hope they were wrong about Benteke. Step forward and admit your jibes were premature and negative. You know who you are. Lambert can jusify his strikers choices. (both scored) KEA suspended for Sunderland match. Hope Baker or Clark are ok for Sat. Also Lichaj to stay at LB .......
-
I hope Di Canio goes to bed and relives the match in his sleep.
At 2-2 he starts to see Madge getting her kit off - then at the last minute she gets up and walks out to be replaced by Nora Batty!
It could be a Madonna to Maradona moment
-
KEA suspended for Sunderland match.
Shit, I wasn't unaware of this. I'd probably got for Delph and Herd (assuming his injury tonight isn't anything serious) holding behind Ireland/Bannan with Benteke on his own if that's the case.
-
What only 4 pages ? Must have won then.
-
What only 4 pages ? Must have won then.
Probably more to do with the site going down for a while.
-
What only 4 pages ? Must have won then.
maybe most who would have posted have retired to a dark room with a cold compress on their forehead.
When they pulled it back to 2-1 I muted the radio, exasperated. I tuned back in at the end to hear 2-2 quickly followed by Benteke.
Well played Benteke. He's suddenly starting to look like the most likely of the summer recruits. Looks like the ideal striker to play 4-5-1/4-3-3 to.
-
yee we won.
-
What only 4 pages ? Must have won then.
Probably more to do with the site going down for a while.
I couldn't get on for about half an hour. It's also difficult to comment if you haven't seen a single kick
-
Well Bloodeye 'ell..bloodeye hell! Wembellee here we come!
-
What only 4 pages ? Must have won then.
Probably more to do with the site going down for a while.
I couldn't get on for about half an hour. It's also difficult to comment if you haven't seen a single kick
The time it was down included the winner and the half an hour or so after the game. Which is when everyone who had been on the match thread would have posted.
-
just back, happy with win, learned a few things tonight. Benteke can be a damn good signing for us, enda stevens will not cut it as a premiership player.
lambert will have learned a few things also about tight formations and playing priviledged players in free roles, my view for 2 sublime bits of skill setting up 2 goals were cancelled out by a 2nd half of anonimity! tough decision
-
Nice to benefit from a late winner for a change.
It doesn't help that Benteke looks a bit like Heskey, and some of his misses have been Ivanhoe-esque too.
But that's 4 goals scored since he joined us at the end of August, all of them crucial goals.
He's 21, still a babby. At the moment he's one of the few bright spots in an arse of a season.
Bradford at home next please.
-
Took forever to get back due to road works, and subsequent diversion, on the M5.
I do wish Villa wouldn't do this to us, although getting a late winner was brilliant.
-
I have to be honest, as sick as I felt when it went to 2-2, i'm glad in a lot of ways it did. There's no better feeling than a last gasp winner, especially in a cup match.
-
Very true, PWS.
-
Very true, PWS.
Must have been even more of a range of emotions being there. It was bad enough listening on the radio!
-
i wish people would stop posting shit like so and so is rubbish and wont make the grade. These players are learning and need support. Young players make mistakes, sometimes costly ones but they learn from them and become better players for it. If you support them instead of slating them they learn much quicker. Supporters should support all our players because these are the only ones we will have. There will be no big spending in January it is no longer club policy to splash the cash. What we have is what we go with from now on.
-
Second half they got the better of us and you just knew they were going to score. And when they did you just knew they were going to equalise.
What we also thought was that they were going to score a winner or that we'd have to sit through extra time and possibly penalties (and it was far too cold for that).
Then up steps Christian Benteke..................he scores when he wants.
-
Well said Telford
-
Highlights of the game (http://www.footreview.net/home/viewvideo/5710/league-cup-2012-13/swindon-town-2-3-aston-villa)
-
What gets me is you see Gabby score like he did tonight and I think, how the hell has he gone 30 league games without a goal?
And in fairness, most of the goals were tidy, including Swindon's.
-
What gets me is you see Gabby score like he did tonight and I think, how the hell has he gone 30 league games without a goal?
And in fairness, most of the goals were tidy, including Swindon's.
their second goal was lovely, but Benteke was so calm with his control and placement for the winner. He really does get himself into excellent positions.
-
What gets me is you see Gabby score like he did tonight and I think, how the hell has he gone 30 league games without a goal?
And in fairness, most of the goals were tidy, including Swindon's.
their second goal was lovely, but Benteke was so calm with his control and placement for the winner. He really does get himself into excellent positions.
He really is a potential star, I don't get why he's getting so much stick from some folks.
Also nice to Ireland get 2 assists as well. If we could just get some confidence intol key players we aren't a half bad side potentially.
-
Was hunting for living accomodation in London this evening, couldn't get any signal on my phone to see how the match was going. Managed to tune in to 5Live for some of the second half in Pizza Hut off Picadilly. Had just finished off my Italian thin and crispy when the equaliser went in. Didn't want to listen to the rest as I knew we were going to throw it all away. Finally got in an hour ago amazed to see it was us who got the last-gasp winner. Great stuff.
Bentekkers will do a Savo at Wembley next Spring. Can't wait for it.
Oh and page 32 of the match thread is an expletive-laden delight that Malcolm Tucker would be proud of.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
-
Very interesting post-match comments from both managers:
Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert praised Christian Benteke after his winner against Swindon, but was unhappy with the striker's overall performance.
Benteke struck late to secure a 3-2 Capital One Cup win against the Robins.
"Benteke has had a quality start [at Villa] but his game wasn't up to my standards," said Lambert.
"His two goals were world-class finishes but you set yourself a standard and we've got to keep him up to that standard."
Belgium forward Benteke, who was signed from Genk in August for a fee of around £7m, opened the scoring at the County Ground and a Gabriel Agbonlahor strike put Premier League side Villa 2-0 up against their League One hosts.
But two goals from Miles Storey levelled the match before Benteke struck the decisive goal after 90 minutes.
"Why did he fall short? I don't know," added Lambert.
"But he has been brilliant since he came here and I think he will get better. He is only 21 and has been a pleasure to work with.
"He is going to be a big player and plays in a brilliant Belgium team."
Swindon boss Paolo Di Canio believes his side were the better team but paid the price for the quality of their finishing not being as good as their Premier League opponents.
"We did our best and I am very proud because we dominated the game," said the Italian.
"In the first half possession was 60-40 in our advantage, in my opinion, because we played football and they countered only.
"The way we played, I'm more than proud because we dominated not like a typical cup game between a League One side against a Premier League side where the emphasis is on energy and physical presence.
"We dominated by playing football. That makes me very happy as a manager. It was a fantastic achievement from my players.
"Talking about the game we looked like the Premier League side and they looked like, with all respect to Aston Villa, the League One side.
"Benteke had two clear chances and scored two goals. We had 10-12 and only scored twice. Anyway, we have to accept this result."
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
-
He passed to Gabby for the second as well.
-
He passed to Gabby for the second as well.
Gabby scored and made his goal with a typical surging run inside. Ireland was useless, thing is most of our midfield were only slightly better.
-
Just got back.
-
He passed to Gabby for the second as well.
Gabby scored and made his goal with a typical surging run inside. Ireland was useless, thing is most of our midfield were only slightly better.
Ireland still gets the assist for Gabby's goal. I think he can be an important players for us, especially the situation we are in, so 2 assists can only help his confidence. And it may a coincidence but 3 of our 4 wins so far have come when he's started.
-
He passed to Gabby for the second as well.
Gabby scored and made his goal with a typical surging run inside. Ireland was useless, thing is most of our midfield were only slightly better.
Ireland still gets the assist for Gabby's goal. I think he can be an important players for us, especially the situation we are in, so 2 assists can only help his confidence. And it may a coincidence but 3 of our 4 wins so far have come when he's started.
Totally disagree. He got completely over run and was only slightly bettered by Bannan who at least showed for the ball. Before you start questioning me I agree he did assist as you call it for the goal.
-
What gets me is you see Gabby score like he did tonight and I think, how the hell has he gone 30 league games without a goal?
And in fairness, most of the goals were tidy, including Swindon's.
their second goal was lovely, but Benteke was so calm with his control and placement for the winner. He really does get himself into excellent positions.
He really is a potential star, I don't get why he's getting so much stick from some folks.
Also nice to Ireland get 2 assists as well. If we could just get some confidence intol key players we aren't a half bad side potentially.
some of our own lot really don't have a clue. I know that things haven't exactly been peachy in the last couple of years but not everything is shit. This lad is showing massive potential at a young age and he should be forgiven for his errors. He's not even close to the finished article. It makes me laugh also at some members of the media who scoffed at us signing him. Fuck them too. It's enough that we get ridiculed out there. We need to stick together and especially when there's something good to talk about like this kid.
-
What gets me is you see Gabby score like he did tonight and I think, how the hell has he gone 30 league games without a goal?
And in fairness, most of the goals were tidy, including Swindon's.
their second goal was lovely, but Benteke was so calm with his control and placement for the winner. He really does get himself into excellent positions.
He really is a potential star, I don't get why he's getting so much stick from some folks.
Also nice to Ireland get 2 assists as well. If we could just get some confidence intol key players we aren't a half bad side potentially.
some of our own lot really don't have a clue. I know that things haven't exactly been peachy in the last couple of years but not everything is shit. This lad is showing massive potential at a young age and he should be forgiven for his errors. He's not even close to the finished article. It makes me laugh also at some members of the media who scoffed at us signing him. Fuck them too. It's enough that we get ridiculed out there. We need to stick together and especially when there's something good to talk about like this kid.
Too right Tolambo!! Over the moon for the lad tonight, he's going to be a massive player for us this season & many more hopefully.
Let's hope our season began tonight, 3 points Saturday against the mackems will set us up nicely for Manure, let's have it!!!
UTV
What's Benteke's song anyway??
-
He scores when he wants. To the tune of The City is Ours.
-
Plus one or two others.
-
Just got home, oop north. Really pleased with the win and some good performances from the team. Di Canio is talking out of his arse if he thinks they played all the football but I suppose he's just playing up for the media now he's had his 15 minutes of fame for the season. As for his behaviour on the pitch afterwards, what a self absorbed prick and a massive lack of respect shown to our club. Hopefully our new found sarcastic PR guy can come up with some suitable post match put downs in any press releases tomorrow. Then again, ignore the facist little bastard and let him play to the crowd in the 3rd tier, the small time tosser.
Given - Fine
Lowton - Fine (dodgy ten minutes when they scored)
Vlaar - Ok (appaling ten minutes when they scored)
Lichaj - Fine
Herd - Ok until he had to go off
Stephens - looked a bit ropey to me
KEA - Really good tonight, looked more comfortable with Ireland/Bannan around him
Bannan - Excellent 1st half, faded badly in the 2nd
Weimann - not sure if he's suited to this role but didn't stop working
Ireland - lovely stuff at times, and some good hard work but like Bannan faded in the 2nd half but still 2 assists
Gabby - much much better and played in what I think is his best position, wide attacker in a 4/3/3 or 4/2/3/1.
Benteke - Woah Christian Benteke, woah Christian Benteke, woah Christian Benteke, 2 goals and after drifting out of the game in the 2nd half a strong last few minutes won us the game
Lambert - tactics spot on 1st half, maybe needed to use subs a bit earlier in the second but no major objections to what was done.
Us lot - a bit subdued at times but watching from the side stand our lot going batshit mental when Benteke got the winner was an awesome sight! Its the kind of thing you usually see other fans getting to do.
Knackered, time for bed.....
-
You're a lot more positive than I am. I thought we did what we had to in the first half, containing and hitting on the break well, but the first 40 minutes of the second half were as bad as anything I've ever witnessed, and what Benteke was doing being stuck on the wing God knows. The substitutions were bizarre but worked in that we went shit or bust for five minutes and got the initiative back. Most important thing was the4 winb.
We left right on the whistle - what did Di Canio do?
-
You're a lot more positive than I am. I thought we did what we had to in the first half, containing and hitting on the break well, but the first 40 minutes of the second half were as bad as anything I've ever witnessed, and what Benteke was doing being stuck on the wing God knows. The substitutions were bizarre but worked in that we went shit or bust for five minutes and got the initiative back. Most important thing was the4 winb.
We left right on the whistle - what did Di Canio do?
Came out to thank the Swindon fans for their support (fair enough) but then proceeded to point at us lot, make a gesture that our club is in the lower reaches of the Premier League and is going to go down, then points at all the Swindon fans makes gesture to suggest high in their league and going up. When he then gets the reaction he wants, he proceeds to repeat it several times. Each to their own I suppose.
-
Swindon boss Paolo Di Canio has defended his actions at the end his side's 3-2 defeat to Aston Villa when he appeared to gesture to the visiting fans that their side would be relegated from the Barclays Premier League.
The Italian watched his side storm back from 2-0 down at the County Ground before Christian Benteke scored his second of the game to send Villa in to the last eight.
And Di Canio insisted he was merely praising the Robins' fans for their support.
He said: 'No, that was not the case. I was saying to my fans that they had been brilliant and their support was so good that they were up there and Villa were below them.
'To see the County ground full of emotion when we scored the second goal was amazing. I was saying it was my fans are the top and they are underneath you.'
Di Canio was proud of the performance of his players despite Benteke breaking their hearts with his fourth goal for Villa.
He said: 'I thought the first half was 50-50. I was more than proud of my players at the end because it was not a typical comeback, one that is just for consolation or from adrenalin.
'It was one with quality and because of change in a tactical way. We came very close to something special.'
Villa manager Paul Lambert hailed the 'world-class' finishing of two goal hero Benteke but felt his overall game was not up to standard.
Benteke and Gabriel Agbonlahor had given Villa a 2-0 lead before Robins substitute Miles Storey's brace looked to have forced the game into extra-time before Benteke struck for the second time.
Lambert said: 'Benteke has had a quality start (at Villa) but his game wasn't up to my standards.
'His two goals were world-class finishes but you set yourself a standard and we've got to keep him up to that standard.
'Why did he fell short? I don't know.
'But he has been brilliant since he came here and I think he will get better. He is only 21 and has been a pleasure to work with.
'He is going to be a big player and plays in a brilliant Belgium team.'
Lambert felt his side were guilty of complacency after opening a two goal lead.
He said: 'At 2-0 we were really comfortable and doing well and could have got another goal just before half-time.
'You become complacent and credit to Swindon for trying to play the right way but we deserved to win this game.
'I know how hard it is coming here and you've got to earn the right to win. It is not all glamour. It is a big win for us.'
Lambert again left out record signing Darren Bent but his line-up indicated how seriously he is taking the competition.
He said: 'You've got to take the competition seriously. There were 3,500 Villa fans here and they pay a lot of money to come and watch us.
'It is important we try and progress and see how far we can go.'
-
Just got back.
Medal in post ;-)
-
lol Gabby's post game interview "We would have loved to have gone on and scored 3 or 4 you know, but they came on strong."
I love the bloke, daft as a brush like but still I love him.
-
You're a lot more positive than I am. I thought we did what we had to in the first half, containing and hitting on the break well, but the first 40 minutes of the second half were as bad as anything I've ever witnessed, and what Benteke was doing being stuck on the wing God knows. The substitutions were bizarre but worked in that we went shit or bust for five minutes and got the initiative back. Most important thing was the4 winb.
We left right on the whistle - what did Di Canio do?
Came out to thank the Swindon fans for their support (fair enough) but then proceeded to point at us lot, make a gesture that our club is in the lower reaches of the Premier League and is going to go down, then points at all the Swindon fans makes gesture to suggest high in their league and going up. When he then gets the reaction he wants, he proceeds to repeat it several times. Each to their own I suppose.
What a silly man.
He made a couple of good substitutions though, got to give him that.
-
What a silly man indeed.
-
Looks to me like he might have meant it as praise for the Swindon support rather than a dig at the club. Still a daft thing to do though.
-
What a prick. If that's not inciting trouble then I don't know what is.
-
Lambert:'You've got to take the competition seriously. There were 3,500 Villa fans here and they pay a lot of money to come and watch us. 'It is important we try and progress and see how far we can go.'
Just watched the goals (numerous times) and nothing beats seeing the Villa fans celebrate.
Good to hear Lambert question Benteke's second half performance too. We can't carry passengers at Aston Villa this season.
-
He shouldn't have stuck him out on the wing then.
-
When was the last time we won a cup match right at the death? There's probably an obvious one i'm missing but right now I can't think of the last time.
-
Lambert:'You've got to take the competition seriously. There were 3,500 Villa fans here and they pay a lot of money to come and watch us. 'It is important we try and progress and see how far we can go.'
Just watched the goals (numerous times) and nothing beats seeing the Villa fans celebrate.
Good to hear Lambert question Benteke's second half performance too. We can't carry passengers at Aston Villa this season.
Agreed it was good to say that. Interesting he thinks Benteke is man enough to take public criticism but not some other players....
-
I'm not convinced that publicly criticising a 21 year old who has just scored twice saved your ass is something I agree with.
-
If you read all his comment, you realise he highly rates the lad but is keeping his feet on the ground. The game doesn't stop, just because you've scored.
-
Any highlights?
-
If you read all his comment, you realise he highly rates the lad but is keeping his feet on the ground. The game doesn't stop, just because you've scored.
I did read all his comments thanks, Lambert said "he didn't play to my standard" "why did he fall short? I don't know" that is public criticism to me and not very professional. It doesn't matter if it's mixed in with other praise. Why not just talk to the lad in private if he wasn't pleased.
-
Any highlights?
http://www.footreview.net/home/viewvideo/5710/league-cup-2012-13/swindon-town-2-3-aston-villa
-
Any highlights?
See p5
-
Any highlights?
From a couple of pages back.
Highlights of the game (http://www.footreview.net/home/viewvideo/5710/league-cup-2012-13/swindon-town-2-3-aston-villa)
-
If you read all his comment, you realise he highly rates the lad but is keeping his feet on the ground. The game doesn't stop, just because you've scored.
I did read all his comments thanks, Lambert said "he didn't play to my standard" "why did he fall short? I don't know" that is public criticism to me and not very professional. It doesn't matter if it's mixed in with other praise. Why not just talk to the lad in private if he wasn't pleased.
Ive changed my mind. I agree with you. It does seem unnecessary to say it in public, particularly when he doesnt with others.
-
If you read all his comment, you realise he highly rates the lad but is keeping his feet on the ground. The game doesn't stop, just because you've scored.
I did read all his comments thanks, Lambert said "he didn't play to my standard" "why did he fall short? I don't know" that is public criticism to me and not very professional. It doesn't matter if it's mixed in with other praise. Why not just talk to the lad in private if he wasn't pleased.
Ive changed my mind. I agree with you. It does seem unnecessary to say it in public, particularly when he doesnt with others.
Just to confuse you..
He also said, "His two goals were world-class finishes but you set yourself a standard and we've got to keep him up to that standard".
-
If you read all his comment, you realise he highly rates the lad but is keeping his feet on the ground. The game doesn't stop, just because you've scored.
I did read all his comments thanks, Lambert said "he didn't play to my standard" "why did he fall short? I don't know" that is public criticism to me and not very professional. It doesn't matter if it's mixed in with other praise. Why not just talk to the lad in private if he wasn't pleased.
Ive changed my mind. I agree with you. It does seem unnecessary to say it in public, particularly when he doesnt with others.
Just to confuse you..
He also said, "His two goals were world-class finishes but you set yourself a standard and we've got to keep him up to that standard".
Ok Ive changed my mind again.
Sod it, have Lambert call me and explain what he meant in person. I want to give him some tactical advice anyway ;D
-
Indeed. There's been other players who i'm sure haven't performed to "his standard" in games this season, but I can't remember him singling anyone out like that. Just strikes me as very unprofessional.
-
If you read all his comment, you realise he highly rates the lad but is keeping his feet on the ground. The game doesn't stop, just because you've scored.
I did read all his comments thanks, Lambert said "he didn't play to my standard" "why did he fall short? I don't know" that is public criticism to me and not very professional. It doesn't matter if it's mixed in with other praise. Why not just talk to the lad in private if he wasn't pleased.
Ive changed my mind. I agree with you. It does seem unnecessary to say it in public, particularly when he doesnt with others.
Just to confuse you..
He also said, "His two goals were world-class finishes but you set yourself a standard and we've got to keep him up to that standard".
Again, I've read it all, it doesn't confuse me in the slightest. It was unprofessional from Lambert. Do you think Lambert would have liked it if a player had said on Saturday something like "The gaffer is great, a real top class manager, but today he wasn't up to my standard, why did he fall short? I don't know"
-
I've always been quite fond of Di Canio and his effusive Italian ways but that little thing at the end was just childish and disrespectful. Cheeky prick.
-
Any highlights?
From a couple of pages back.
Thanks guys, seems to have stopped working though.
Highlights of the game (http://www.footreview.net/home/viewvideo/5710/league-cup-2012-13/swindon-town-2-3-aston-villa)
-
I've always been quite fond of Di Canio and his effusive Italian ways but that little thing at the end was just childish and disrespectful. Cheeky prick.
I think he is a bit like Holloway. Seems kinda funny until it involves us then we see what a dick he is.
-
Here's a link for the goals.
http://www.footballhighlights247.com/swindon-aston-villa-match-highlights.m23739.html (http://www.footballhighlights247.com/swindon-aston-villa-match-highlights.m23739.html)
-
Predictably hard work. Thankfully it don't go to extra time because we really don't need that with an important game at the weekend. Bentekes started very well so far. He's getting in the positions. I'm not sure why Lambert keeps commenting publically on the lad. He did so I think against Spurs saying he needs to be putting away chances like that at this level. Then again, Benteke has 3 in his last 2, so maybe PL knows more than we do.
-
Job done...another few for Benteke can only be good for him. Seems like Lambert is sticking by him over Bent. Think Bent wil be off come January.
As for Di Canio...well at least you know he's hurting when he does things like that...good, twat.
-
Listened on the wireless, 2nd half sounded dreadful, soon as it went 1 2 I knew they'd score, need to do better, so glad Benteke banging goals in I had faith in him all along
-
We don't make things easy for ourself but I'm just glad we through to the quarter finals I'm glad Benteke scored twice it will do his confidence the world of good let's hope we can pull Bradford out the hat for the next round.
-
Lets hope for a decent cup draw- tough game last night ,but we showed character to win it.
-
I thought it was a pretty ropey performance and we made very hard work of it, we somehow managed to get ourselves in front and then we looked pretty confident although we were still gifting them chance after chance.
I'm grateful to Benteke for saving me another half hour of standing in the freezing cold.
Can't really understand the criticism of Ireland, he looked very composed and one of the few who looked clearly superior to their Swindon counterpart.
DiCanio is a child, does a player with his CV really need to do that kind of nonsense to receive the adoration of a housefull of lower league carrot crunchers? Most Villa on the way out were laughing at him.
Diversion on the M5 was no fun on the way back.
-
A win is very welcome, and it makes a change to be able to take this competition seriously.
But the way we let them get back into the game does not fill me with confidence. Nor does the manager's response.
I hate to be negative but it doesn't feel as if we have turned a corner yet.
-
The game pretty much turned out the way that you'd have expected: Swindon were aggressive, plucky and adventurous. We, as the top-flight side, had everything to lose.
Reminded me - particularly listening on the radio - of some of our exploits in the 1970's when we were a plucky cup team on the rise. I have no problem with the fact that we struggled.
However, we do need to raise our game for the EPL somewhat, and I'd be interested to know from people at the game how the 4-3-3 worked.
Also, I'm concerned about our CB injury situation.
-
I thought we'd turned a corner after Man City only to find a huge sweeping bend ahead of us, I think we are still on that bend.
Still, a win is a win and we're forever complaining that we don't score last minute winners and that it's always being done to us.
Yes, I'm looking at the positives. Very much so. For sure.
-
Having got up yesterday morning at 4.30am to attend an assessment centre in London for a job in my company I essentially already have (nice and it didn't go very well either!), I was more grateful than most for Benteke's very late winner.The thought of getting home about 1am in the morning was filling me with dread. As Damon says, a win was very welcome after Fulham and Southampton away the last few weeks. Our fans were absolutely brilliant again though I do wish the phantom farter near me had stopped doing so. The Swindon fans were superb at the annointed time for the Petrov applause. As for the game, we collectively seemed to play well in passages of the game and then collectively be all at sea for periods. Bannan perhaps epitomised this more than anyone, looking like Xavi at times and then having a spell in the second half when he couldn't play a ball to a colleague 5 yards away. Lovely to go to a ground where you can get away quickly because there are only 14K there, even if it is in Swindon which really is the pits of a place. Again, as Damon says, I wouldn't get carried away, the number of times they put balls across the face of our goal was alarming and we had some real let offs - as did they on occasions to be fair. Drove home listening to the end of that truly remarkable game at Reading, life is certainly never dull if you are an Arsenal fan for sure!
-
Too right Tolambo!! Over the moon for the lad tonight, he's going to be a massive player for us this season & many more hopefully.
Let's hope our season began tonight, 3 points Saturday against the mackems will set us up nicely for Manure, let's have it!!!
UTV
What's Benteke's song anyway??
Onward Christian Benteke,
As Villa go to War,
With every Cross and centre,
He is gonna score.
(Onward Christian Soldiers obviously)
-
It's 'Christian Benteke, he scores when he wants'....
-
i wish people would stop posting shit like so and so is rubbish and wont make the grade. These players are learning and need support. Young players make mistakes, sometimes costly ones but they learn from them and become better players for it. If you support them instead of slating them they learn much quicker. Supporters should support all our players because these are the only ones we will have. There will be no big spending in January it is no longer club policy to splash the cash. What we have is what we go with from now on.
what did you think of enda stevens performance telford. i will tell you what i thought, woeful, dire embarrasing. there. stick that review where you dont like it.
-
i wish people would stop posting shit like so and so is rubbish and wont make the grade. These players are learning and need support. Young players make mistakes, sometimes costly ones but they learn from them and become better players for it. If you support them instead of slating them they learn much quicker. Supporters should support all our players because these are the only ones we will have. There will be no big spending in January it is no longer club policy to splash the cash. What we have is what we go with from now on.
what did you think of enda stevens performance telford. i will tell you what i thought, woeful, dire embarrasing. there. stick that review where you dont like it.
Bennett back in on sat but we really need clark to be fit too, baker will be out a few weeks I think.
Interesting game on sat with a lot at stake.
-
I've seen Stevens a few times for the reserves so that performance didn't surprise me although to be fair he was up against their best player, the no10.
Still, needs must.
-
and I'd be interested to know from people at the game how the 4-3-3 worked.
I too would be interested in this, and how on earth we were playing with 4 strikers at the end. It sounds exciting?
-
Does anyone know what formation Villa played yesterday? The Telegraph report suggests a 4-2-3-1 which sounds a lot more dynamic that the weekend's 4-0-2, sorry, 4-4-2.
-
Happy we won in 90 minutes.
Gabby especially needs to start producing in the league.
Bent can't have anything to moan about.
Sounds like Ireland had a good game.
More confident for the game on the weekend now.
Bent can't have anything to moan about.
-
Just watched the highlights, Gabby's goal was lovely, he threatened to do that a couple of times on Saturday but the strike let him down, let's hope that reminds him where the net is. The second Swindon goal was a cheeky wee scamp too. Fingers crossed that Benteke can keep scoring more than he misses, I like the look of him tho'.
-
It's a win, we still have problems but we're in the quarters!
Di Canio is a self obsessed fascist prick!
-
Well I'm relieved we won, but our defence and midfield is still a major concern.
-
I've always been quite fond of Di Canio and his effusive Italian ways but that little thing at the end was just childish and disrespectful. Cheeky prick.
Very good footballer
That said he's a horrible nasty little fascist and as such deserves the Mussolini treatment
-
I don't really care that they fucked up that 2 goal lead. The celebrations for the 3rd was mad.
Oh, Di Canio is a nasty childish little cockend
-
What has Di Canio done?
-
I've missed the last two games and it seems we're still the mixed bag we've been all season. All that matters in a cup game is winning it, so good to see we did and the goals looked good.
-
I was dreading another 30 minutes of that, we were so poor. Thankfully Benteke did his job, one of the few who did on the night.
You can expect a team a few divisions below to pull off a result against a top side now and then but what is not expected is the top club to be outplayed in the way we were.
Lambert has his work cut out. Tactics is part of the problem, but the real problem is that a lot of the players we have just aren't good enough. To emphasis that, I think the side would be marginally improved with the return of Warnock and Hutton.
-
I've always been quite fond of Di Canio and his effusive Italian ways but that little thing at the end was just childish and disrespectful. Cheeky prick.
Oh yeah, that and him being a fascist scumbag...
-
Nine am Wednesday, just home from the game. I shall recall three things from that brain shredder of a game.
The total urban sterility of Swindon. I would truly sooner be dead than live there.
The manager of Aldis not knowing whether to call in Securicor to empty his overflowing tills or to try to push a few hundred Villa fans off the pavement outside his store.
Our now normal mental weakness and the inability of the Villa defence and midfiled to play with any kind of swagger or composure when two goals up. And Stephen Ireland was on an awayday again. That's four things. Put it down to lack of sleep.
-
I would certainly welcome Warnock back asap, because the defence is so thin on replacements right now as to be virtually non-existent. Stevens was a rabbit caught in the headlights last night and if he's Bennett's fallback option then we're shagged, quite frankly.
Positively, Benteke's renaissance is extremely pleasing. He has a taste for scoring all of a sudden and basically, if you have a player that's scoring and has confidence it makes it so much harder to lose games. A player in form lifts the whole team and he could swing it in our favour on Saturday. And if Bent wants a bit of the action, he needs to learn to play with Benteke and be as prolific.
Here's hoping Lambert saw the lightweight midfield, puts Holman and Delph/Westwood either side of Ireland and sticks with Gabby as we looked more incisive last night than we have done since Swansea.
-
Job done.
Good to see Benteke score. Ireland having a good one , we do miss him in the team.
Defenders have got to stop giving the ball away , are you listening Ron.
10 goals in the cup so far , It could be our year .
-
Is 33% possession from the BBC a reliable stat? If so, result aside, that is truly worrying. Chuffed we won but that sort of performance doesn't bode terribly well for the games to come.
Think our strikers are doing well, our midfield's still all at sea and our defence which was improving is being decimated by injury. Still we beat that DiCanio knobhead...
-
When and where is the draw? Hope we avoid Arsenal.
-
If we are going to score goals we need Ireland, Gabby and Benteke all given a run of games from the start. If we are going to tighten up at the back we need Baker and Dunne back to give us options alongside Vlaar. When do we find out who we are away to in the quarters? Is it tomorrow night or Saturday lunchtime?
-
What was wrong with Benteke's performance, other than his two goals?
-
Good result which is the important thing.
Good to see 2 more for Benteke, hopefully the people who've been slating him as 'not up to prem standard' will look at the 4 in 7 record and give him a bit of a chance.
I also think the game going as it did, with us stealing a late winner when we'd looked poor for the 2nd half will help with confidence, late winners are usually good for morale (fans and players) so hopefully we can take some extra confidence into the sunderland match.
-
When and where is the draw? Hope we avoid Arsenal.
Tonight, after Chelsea Man U game
-
What was worrying listening to the game last night, and seeing us against Fulham and Norwich in the flesh, is how many times we give the ball straight back to the opposition straight after winning it back ourselves. It happened countless times the previous two Saturdays and unless we remedy that then we will always be struggling to win games and gather momentum. What is particular worrying is how often we win the ball in our box, faff around with it and give it away. Fulham had a few early chances that they should have taken and Norwich should have scored 4.
-
curiousorange: strange comment about Benteke getting a taste for scoring 'all of a sudden'. They were his ninth and tenth of the season.
-
The passing was poor last night
Interesting that they think they outplayed us. We were comfy in the 1st half, and apart from 2 seperate 15 minute spells, they didn't really worry me. Their 2nd goal seemed to wake us and there was only one team going to score from there
-
Perc, all I meant was that he got his first against Swansea then took brickbats for the next four games for missing sitters. I know statistically he's been consistent this season but that doesn't tell the whole story.
-
He scores when he wants. To the tune of The City is Ours.
Also "Wooaah Christian Benteke" to the tune of Seven Nation Army.
-
He scores when he wants. To the tune of The City is Ours.
Also "Wooaah Christian Benteke" to the tune of Seven Nation Army.
Also,
'He's Belgian-Congolose, He'll knock you out with ease!
Benteke woooooah, Benteke woooooooooooah'
We really need to get everyone singing one of these.
-
What was worrying listening to the game last night, and seeing us against Fulham and Norwich in the flesh, is how many times we give the ball straight back to the opposition straight after winning it back ourselves. It happened countless times the previous two Saturdays and unless we remedy that then we will always be struggling to win games and gather momentum. What is particular worrying is how often we win the ball in our box, faff around with it and give it away. Fulham had a few early chances that they should have taken and Norwich should have scored 4.
Agreed, if we do it against better opposition we will be punished. On Sat, Norwich were just as bad as us. The worst ones were Delph and Albrighton.
-
I've always been quite fond of Di Canio and his effusive Italian ways but that little thing at the end was just childish and disrespectful. Cheeky prick.
I think he is a bit like Holloway. Seems kinda funny until it involves us then we see what a dick he is.
I was talking to a Swindon fan on the way home and he said that they were quite aware of what a wanker Di Canio is.
-
Really pleased to see Gabby net one, and I'm going to be a bit controversial here, but I don't think he'd have got that in the Premier League. His first touch was far too loose and the ball would have been snaffled up by a better class of defender, IMO.
-
Just watched the goals, Gabby's was a great finish.
-
Just watched the goals, Gabby's was a great finish.
Fair play to him, was a good goal but he must carry that on in the premier league - probably done enough to retain his place last night - lets hope he delivers on Saturday.
-
Really pleased to see Gabby net one, and I'm going to be a bit controversial here, but I don't think he'd have got that in the Premier League. His first touch was far too loose and the ball would have been snaffled up by a better class of defender, IMO.
Nothing controversial about that - when he was at his best was when Carew was causing havoc physically to the opposition giving him time and space.
-
Anyone got a link to the goals? 101goals didn't have them last night.
-
I've always been quite fond of Di Canio and his effusive Italian ways but that little thing at the end was just childish and disrespectful. Cheeky prick.
I think he is a bit like Holloway. Seems kinda funny until it involves us then we see what a dick he is.
I was talking to a Swindon fan on the way home and he said that they were quite aware of what a wanker Di Canio is.
They seem to play up to him though, fair play when they equalised and the whole ground sang Paulo Di Canio it was bloody loud! Fuck off Di Canio at the end was better though!
-
Just watched the goals, Gabby's was a great finish.
Fair play to him, was a good goal but he must carry that on in the premier league - probably done enough to retain his place last night - lets hope he delivers on Saturday.
I'm a massive Gabby fan still. He hasn't had a great couple of seasons, and people like me probably do make up too many excuses for him, but eveb when not scoring he offers us an outlet with that pace. He will outrun most defenders in the league and will chase lost causes.
-
He scores when he wants. To the tune of The City is Ours.
Also "Wooaah Christian Benteke" to the tune of Seven Nation Army.
Also,
'He's Belgian-Congolose, He'll knock you out with ease!
Benteke woooooah, Benteke woooooooooooah'
We really need to get everyone singing one of these.
And,
Benteke, woooah, Benteke woooah
He lives in Perry Bar, he'll fucking rob your car
The seven nation army version was good last night though with the whole away ends jumping up and singing it
Any Villa fans sit in the home end last night?
-
Bradford at home in the next round please.
-
The BBC was reporting 67% possession to Swindon. That can't be right, come on, someone tell me they've fucked that up.
-
47% possession on SSN right hand Stat box.
-
From about 6 seconds in, I would respectfully suggest that this would work, uncomplicated yet rousing with a hint of Belgique je ne sais quo.
-
Did anyone listen to WM last night on the phone in afterwards some guy thought Storey was Nicky Shorey I had to switch over
-
Did anyone listen to WM last night on the phone in afterwards some guy thought Storey was Nicky Shorey I had to switch over
Yep heard that, sounded a bit like doug, was very critical calling the club a shambles from top to bottom - pity he was cut short as he sounded really old and disrespectful to cut him short .
-
I've always been quite fond of Di Canio and his effusive Italian ways but that little thing at the end was just childish and disrespectful. Cheeky prick.
I think he is a bit like Holloway. Seems kinda funny until it involves us then we see what a dick he is.
I was talking to a Swindon fan on the way home and he said that they were quite aware of what a wanker Di Canio is.
I missed this - what did Di Canio do at the end of the game?
-
Just seen the goals on SSN. I confirm the rumours that Di Canio is indeed a twat.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
Yep he played well apparently, but some people do seem to have an agenda against him.
-
Concrete John- at final whistle Di Canio was using Vision On type sign language which sort of indicated that he thought the home supporters were better than the away fans or that his players had performed better that Villa- difficult to really understand and he should be careful waving his arms about as it could be misinterpreted. Think he was upset with ' F**k off Di Canio, Madonna said No' chant which I thought was v good.
-
Indeed. There's been other players who i'm sure haven't performed to "his standard" in games this season, but I can't remember him singling anyone out like that. Just strikes me as very unprofessional.
It is an slightly ridiculous as he apparently shoved him on the wing and he still scored two.
-
I missed this - what did Di Canio do at the end of the game?
I turned round and headed for the exit on the final whistle (it was bloody cold) so I missed it as well...
Came out to thank the Swindon fans for their support (fair enough) but then proceeded to point at us lot, make a gesture that our club is in the lower reaches of the Premier League and is going to go down, then points at all the Swindon fans makes gesture to suggest high in their league and going up. When he then gets the reaction he wants, he proceeds to repeat it several times. Each to their own I suppose.
-
I agree about Gabby's goal, it was a lovely finish but he had several touches, not all of them very good.
Still, it's the ball in the back of the net that counts.
-
Concrete John- at final whistle Di Canio was using Vision On type sign language which sort of indicated that he thought the home supporters were better than the away fans or that his players had performed better that Villa- difficult to really understand and he should be careful waving his arms about as it could be misinterpreted. Think he was upset with ' F**k off Di Canio, Madonna said No' chant which I thought was v good.
Thanks!
Just checked it out on Youtube and can only concur with the 'twat' conclusion.
-
From what the people who went to Swindon and have been good enough to provide us with their comments had said it looks as if we just about deserved to win..just.. Dave has mentioned that Lambert more or less played Benteke out wide in the second half which doesnt make any sense at all. Those there differ on Irelands performance. Lambert appears to be taking the Brian Clough line in critisising players publicly and that is wrong.
Ive just seen the goals on Sky and Benteke's winner was very good in my opinion.
Agbonlahor's goal was good but I havent changed my opinion about him in any way and I dont think he has the ability to provide a consistent level of performance in the league .Sure hes fast but so was Tony Daley. Sure he can hold the ball up so could Heskey .
And whats more Lambert is starting to come over as quite nasty with the players. If it works all well and good. If it doesnt provide the results we all want well I dont know where we are going.
-
We are in the next round that's all that matters really,hopefully a home draw against a lower league club
-
Watched the goals again, I think you're being a bit unfair on the gabby saying the defender would have got in the prem, I think he'd have been under more pressure but I don't think there was a particularly poor touch in there, the last one had to be quite heavy to open up the angle for the shot.
Both of Benteke's are great finishes, he seems to like aiming for the corners.
Their 2nd is quality, for a young kid from the 3rd tier to come on and do that against a premier league team is pretty impressive.
The first however I thin k Given could've done better, he seemed to dive but not actually move, if that makes sense. I think Guzan would've saved it.
-
Given could've done better, he seemed to dive but not actually move, if that makes sense.
Ah, the old static dive
-
Lambert appears to be taking the Brian Clough line in critisising players publicly and that is wrong.
Not for Clough it wasn't. Maybe Lambert know how to get the best out of Benteke - I don't like to see it but what Ron Saunders would have said about Tony Morley if he'd had to do as many interviews as managers now, I shudder to think.
-
Don't really understand why lambert had to make the critical comments about benteke- he's a young lad who had just scored 2 very good goals , if lambert feels the need to criticise in public he may wish to take a look at himself and the mistakes he's made so far , there are many players who deserve to be criticised ahead of benteke- seems a poor bit of man management there.
-
'He's Belgian-Congolose, He'll knock you out with ease!
Benteke woooooah, Benteke woooooooooooah'
That one is great.
-
At least we didn't loose and at 2-2 we could have done. Bring on pubehead!
-
Lambert appears to be taking the Brian Clough line in critisising players publicly and that is wrong.
Not for Clough it wasn't. Maybe Lambert know how to get the best out of Benteke - I don't like to see it but what Ron Saunders would have said about Tony Morley if he'd had to do as many interviews as managers now, I shudder to think.
Ron might have been a bit more diplomatic..or then again he might not.
Didnt Clough once refuse to let Peter Withe have the match ball "until you learn how to play football." Sir Peter had just scored a hat trick!!
-
don't get me wrong, good to be in the hat for the next round, but fuck me, how the mighty have fallen. tripoding around about an away win at Swindon!
-
don't get me wrong, good to be in the hat for the next round, but fuck me, how the mighty have fallen. tripoding around about an away win at Swindon!
Nobody's getting over-excited and the "woe is us, how low have we fallen" response to just about everything is getting a bit cliched, to put it mildly.
-
Positively, Benteke's renaissance is extremely pleasing. He has a taste for scoring all of a sudden and basically, if you have a player that's scoring and has confidence it makes it so much harder to lose games. A player in form lifts the whole team and he could swing it in our favour on Saturday. And if Bent wants a bit of the action, he needs to learn to play with Benteke and be as prolific.
Benteke's renaissance? Blimey, he's only been with the club five minutes. He scored on his Villa debut and has scored nine goals in sixteen appearances in all competitions. He's made four full league appearances for Villa and scored two goals.
-
Does anyone know what formation Villa played yesterday? The Telegraph report suggests a 4-2-3-1 which sounds a lot more dynamic that the weekend's 4-0-2, sorry, 4-4-2.
Lined up across the centre circle for a goal kick after it went 2-2 were Wiemann, Gabby, Bent and Benteke... looked for all the world like 4-2-4 at that point....
-
just for the record i was not shroud waving at all. Just being cynically realistic. Its only football.
-
From what the people who went to Swindon and have been good enough to provide us with their comments had said it looks as if we just about deserved to win..just.. Dave has mentioned that Lambert more or less played Benteke out wide in the second half which doesnt make any sense at all. Those there differ on Irelands performance. Lambert appears to be taking the Brian Clough line in critisising players publicly and that is wrong.
Benteke often plays out wide for Belgium, too. I think it's in his locker to drift out wide and interchange with wingers throughout the ninety minutes.
-
Don't really understand why lambert had to make the critical comments about benteke- he's a young lad who had just scored 2 very good goals , if lambert feels the need to criticise in public he may wish to take a look at himself and the mistakes he's made so far , there are many players who deserve to be criticised ahead of benteke- seems a poor bit of man management there.
Man-management is all about understanding how the individual player responds to various motivational forms. It's very possible those that deserve the criticism more would not respond well to it, but he thinks Benteke would.
-
don't get me wrong, good to be in the hat for the next round, but fuck me, how the mighty have fallen. tripoding around about an away win at Swindon!
Yes because we've never once struggled to beat a lower league team in a Cup competition before, nor has any other Premier League club.
-
Don't really understand why lambert had to make the critical comments about benteke- he's a young lad who had just scored 2 very good goals , if lambert feels the need to criticise in public he may wish to take a look at himself and the mistakes he's made so far , there are many players who deserve to be criticised ahead of benteke- seems a poor bit of man management there.
Man-management is all about understanding how the individual player responds to various motivational forms. It's very possible those that deserve the criticism more would not respond well to it, but he thinks Benteke would.
Fair enough but does he need to do it publicly?
-
Don't really understand why lambert had to make the critical comments about benteke- he's a young lad who had just scored 2 very good goals , if lambert feels the need to criticise in public he may wish to take a look at himself and the mistakes he's made so far , there are many players who deserve to be criticised ahead of benteke- seems a poor bit of man management there.
Man-management is all about understanding how the individual player responds to various motivational forms. It's very possible those that deserve the criticism more would not respond well to it, but he thinks Benteke would.
Fair enough but does he need to do it publicly?
Maybe that's the way he and the player want it. As I said earlier, Saunders would have been on at Morley after every match.
-
Billy, I responded earlier by agreeing that I'm not arguing about Benteke's statistics, rather I was referring to him answering the critics who accuse him of being a striker who misses sitters.
-
Don't really understand why lambert had to make the critical comments about benteke- he's a young lad who had just scored 2 very good goals , if lambert feels the need to criticise in public he may wish to take a look at himself and the mistakes he's made so far , there are many players who deserve to be criticised ahead of benteke- seems a poor bit of man management there.
Man-management is all about understanding how the individual player responds to various motivational forms. It's very possible those that deserve the criticism more would not respond well to it, but he thinks Benteke would.
Fair enough but does he need to do it publicly?
Maybe that's the way he and the player want it. As I said earlier, Saunders would have been on at Morley after every match.
I must admit the quotes about Bentek did concern me slightly. Managers like Saunders and Ferguson can get away with it when their own performance is untouchable, but Lambert has hardly pulled up any trees himself since he's been here. If Faulkner gave an interview saying he was concerned about how Lambert was doing, I bet the LMA would be called almost immediately, yet managers think it's OK to criticise players in public.
-
Happy with the win ,all that matters in a cup is the score. Wish i knew why Villa seem unable to play 90 minutes instead of 45 . You just knew at 2-0 up it would not be straight forward and that we would let Swindon back into it
-
Don't really understand why lambert had to make the critical comments about benteke- he's a young lad who had just scored 2 very good goals , if lambert feels the need to criticise in public he may wish to take a look at himself and the mistakes he's made so far , there are many players who deserve to be criticised ahead of benteke- seems a poor bit of man management there.
Man-management is all about understanding how the individual player responds to various motivational forms. It's very possible those that deserve the criticism more would not respond well to it, but he thinks Benteke would.
Fair enough but does he need to do it publicly?
Maybe that's the way he and the player want it. As I said earlier, Saunders would have been on at Morley after every match.
I must admit the quotes about Bentek did concern me slightly. Managers like Saunders and Ferguson can get away with it when their own performance is untouchable, but Lambert has hardly pulled up any trees himself since he's been here. If Faulkner gave an interview saying he was concerned about how Lambert was doing, I bet the LMA would be called almost immediately, yet managers think it's OK to criticise players in public.
if he thought he was a bag of crap he has the right to say it. He is the boss and what he says goes!
-
Never mind his comments on Benteke, i'm more concerned about his increasingly bizarre substitutions. Not too sure what he playing at taking off Ireland and Bannan when it went to 2-2 and Weimann playing out wide was a bit odd. Holman to help out in midfield whilst it was 2-0 would have been the simple move.
-
We have all noticed that when Ireland , particularly, and Bannan are not on the pitch we intend to play crap and either lose or lose winning positions. As was the case yesterday until the third gaol went in.
-
Never mind his comments on Benteke, i'm more concerned about his increasingly bizarre substitutions. Not too sure what he playing at taking off Ireland and Bannan when it went to 2-2 and Weimann playing out wide was a bit odd. Holman to help out in midfield whilst it was 2-0 would have been the simple move.
I was there and the decision was questioned by us all!! Still not sure what difference Delph was going to make. Holman was the obvious choice to cahnge things in mid but i thunk he was entitled to have a rest last night after all the running he has done so far this season!!
All that matters really is the result and the fact that we are in the hat for the 1/4 finals should be enough but quite clearly for some it isnt!! UTV!!
-
Well as predicted a nerve shredding affair but we pulled through, good news that Benteke got a brace and lets hope he can do the same at Sunderland on Saturday, listening to various radio stations this morning and some of them didnt even mention our win yet before the match we were featured heavilly with lots of talk about us going out, they dont like us do they?
-
Never mind his comments on Benteke, i'm more concerned about his increasingly bizarre substitutions. Not too sure what he playing at taking off Ireland and Bannan when it went to 2-2 and Weimann playing out wide was a bit odd. Holman to help out in midfield whilst it was 2-0 would have been the simple move.
I was there and the decision was questioned by us all!! Still not sure what difference Delph was going to make. Holman was the obvious choice to cahnge things in mid but i thunk he was entitled to have a rest last night after all the running he has done so far this season!!
All that matters really is the result and the fact that we are in the hat for the 1/4 finals should be enough but quite clearly for some it isnt!! UTV!!
I'm glad we're through, don't get me wrong but Lambert seemed to make it harder than it should have been.
-
don't get me wrong, good to be in the hat for the next round, but fuck me, how the mighty have fallen. tripoding around about an away win at Swindon!
Are we contractually obliged to have one comment like this on every post match thread where we didn't lose and the opposition wasn't one of the Sky clubs?
-
We have all noticed that when Ireland , particularly, and Bannan are not on the pitch we intend to play crap and either lose or lose winning positions. As was the case yesterday until the third gaol went in.
Completely agree, they should both be starting where possible.
-
Watched the goals again, I think you're being a bit unfair on the gabby saying the defender would have got in the prem, I think he'd have been under more pressure but I don't think there was a particularly poor touch in there, the last one had to be quite heavy to open up the angle for the shot.
Both of Benteke's are great finishes, he seems to like aiming for the corners.
Their 2nd is quality, for a young kid from the 3rd tier to come on and do that against a premier league team is pretty impressive.
The first however I thin k Given could've done better, he seemed to dive but not actually move, if that makes sense. I think Guzan would've saved it.
Lichaj's defensive header for their second goal was awful. He somewhat made it up with it for the cross for our third though.
-
We have all noticed that when Ireland , particularly, and Bannan are not on the pitch we intend to play crap and either lose or lose winning positions. As was the case yesterday until the third gaol went in.
Completely agree, they should both be starting where possible.
We keep the ball much better when Ireland's in the side. People say he's not been as creative as he should be and that may be so, but he's the nearest thing we've got to the kind of presence Petrov gave us.
-
don't get me wrong, good to be in the hat for the next round, but fuck me, how the mighty have fallen. tripoding around about an away win at Swindon!
It would seem that way. I wonder how the Wigan fans feel today. We won and went through. It was never going to be an easy game and anybody who thought it was is just not being realistic.
I am mystified though at Lambert having a go at Benteke. I hope it is a way of winding Benteke up so on Saturday he thinks "Feck you Lambert" and then goes on to score a hatrick against blunderland, then Lambert can have another go and Benteke can score another 3 against Manure. What a lovely dream that was.....
Are we contractually obliged to have one comment like this on every post match thread where we didn't lose and the opposition wasn't one of the Sky clubs?
-
We have all noticed that when Ireland , particularly, and Bannan are not on the pitch we intend to play crap and either lose or lose winning positions. As was the case yesterday until the third gaol went in.
Completely agree, they should both be starting where possible.
Yep, with somebody like Clark maybe giving the cover in midfield and ONE wide player.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
I think tarzan has a similar issue with Ireland that stuart has with Benteke. It doesn't matter what they do, they cannot do anything right.
-
Indeed, and it's mass hysteria when it comes to Gabby.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
i thought ireland was good in the first half and made the first and lovely pass to gabby for the second, but in the 2nd half was pretty much a passenger, though swindon did go more route 1 2nd half and missed the midfield out. Lambert gambled on us having more quality when we had the ball rather than sit back too deep. it could have backfired but thankfully it didnt and his plan worked!
-
Indeed, and it's mass hysteria when it comes to Gabby.
Can somebody tell me what Gabby did in the build up to the first goal? Ian Dowie was extremely excited by it but on the TV clips it doesn't show the build up, just Ireland's run and cross.
-
Listening to the radio, what I noticed most in the second half was the absence of any mention of KEA (in particular) and Ireland, and only occasional mention of Bannan. There was also a ball-jarring repetition of 'poor clearance finds [Swindon player]'.
It made some sense to change something in the later stages, preferably before Swindon got back in the game, maybe both Holman and Delph could have been introduced.
-
Very well taken goals (from both sides in fairness).
This habit of going to sleep for periods during games suggests we lack a bit of leadership on the pitch - something to be addressed in January hopefully.
-
I think that is the nail on the head. It's a problem of leadership, which is why the Bent/armband kerfuffle has been so toxic. We are scratching round for a leader on the pitch. I was hoping Vlaar would take that role but his form seems to make that problematic.
-
We don't half miss Petrov's contribution.
-
Indeed, and it's mass hysteria when it comes to Gabby.
I'm no fan of gabby but if he contributes like he did last night then he deserves to keep his place, I'm a great believer in the man on possession keeps the shirt as long as he performs well- he needs to consistently deliver now, starting on wearside.
-
We do have a serious case of headless chickens about us. I was hoping Westwood would bring calmness and leadership from his description before he joined, but obviously he needs to get in the team first. The experienced players need to step up.
-
The experienced players need to step up.
This is true. As Lambert should have said to Bent, you have to *take* responsibility. Nobody gives it to you.
-
Just seen the goals on SSN. I confirm the rumours that Di Canio is indeed a twat.
Oh I didn't mind it. A bit of fun. It'd be a shame if all managers/players did exactly what they 'should' do. It's for similar reasons that I don't mind Colin at Leeds.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
-
Very well taken goals (from both sides in fairness).
This habit of going to sleep for periods during games suggests we lack a bit of leadership on the pitch - something to be addressed in January hopefully.
Petrov is definitely missed in that respect. I thought he was having his best season for a long while when he was taken ill.
I think Vlaar can develop into a good captain, but I also prefer there to be a vocal, leader-type in midfield, and if you look at the various combinations we've tried in the middle, none of them include that type of player.
-
Just seen the goals on SSN. I confirm the rumours that Di Canio is indeed a twat.
Oh I didn't mind it. A bit of fun. It'd be a shame if all managers/players did exactly what they 'should' do. It's for similar reasons that I don't mind Colin at Leeds.
Fair point if they had won, they didn't, therefore, it was inappropriate to make such a scene.
-
Just seen the goals on SSN. I confirm the rumours that Di Canio is indeed a twat.
Oh I didn't mind it. A bit of fun. It'd be a shame if all managers/players did exactly what they 'should' do. It's for similar reasons that I don't mind Colin at Leeds.
I'm with you.
It at least makes it all that bit more entertaining.
-
Just seen the goals on SSN. I confirm the rumours that Di Canio is indeed a twat.
Oh I didn't mind it. A bit of fun. It'd be a shame if all managers/players did exactly what they 'should' do. It's for similar reasons that I don't mind Colin at Leeds.
I'm with you.
It at least makes it all that bit more entertaining.
Warnock, di canio,holloway etc are all characters and the game lacks characters, too many bland managers like pardew, pulls, etc.
-
Very well taken goals (from both sides in fairness).
This habit of going to sleep for periods during games suggests we lack a bit of leadership on the pitch - something to be addressed in January hopefully.
Petrov is definitely missed in that respect. I thought he was having his best season for a long while when he was taken ill.
I think Vlaar can develop into a good captain, but I also prefer there to be a vocal, leader-type in midfield, and if you look at the various combinations we've tried in the middle, none of them include that type of player.
I don't know whether he will ever be back and if he is, whether he will be the same but he makes a massive difference to us. I've said it before but it was startling to me when during Houllier's reign, Petrov missed much of the first half of the season (when we really struggled) and then once he was back, the results picked up massively. The same happened last season. Once he became ill, we went from being a poor side to one that struggled to even score one goal let alone pick up points.
We all hoped KEA would be Petrov's replacement but instead, I think we have the perfect midfield partner for Petrov. Obviously there's a small problem with that. I think that's what we need in January - the actual Petrov replacement.
-
I would be amazed if Petrov played again after going through that, and at his age.
-
Sadly I think the only way we will see him play for us again is in a testimonial.
-
I don't think I even want Petrov to play for us competitively again, I just want to see him pull through this terrible illness and live out the rest of his life peacefully; away from the public eye. I have this image of his testimonial against Celtic in front of a Villa Park packed to the rafters within the next few years and I'd like to believe that will be it.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
Exactly I've just looked at the highlights and saw his influence, to criticise him is ridiculous. He should be one of the first names on our team sheet every week, we're a better side with him in it.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
Exactly I've just looked at the highlights and saw his influence, to criticise him is ridiculous. He should be one of the first names on our team sheet every week, we're a better side with him in it.
Here's hoping he's done just about enough for Lambert to include him against Sunderland.
-
Sadly I think the only way we will see him play for us again is in a testimonial.
I'd be happy with that, we should be counting our blessings he's still around. I'd be proud to see him pull on the Villa shirt even if its just for 2 minutes of football
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
Downing was utter gash.Ask any Liverpool fan and they will say the same.
-
Plus one or two others.
Had you found your seat by then Dave?
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
You at the game then Paulie?
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
You at the game then Paulie?
I was. He was involved in two goals and looked the one class performer in our midfield.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
You at the game then Paulie?
I was. He was involved in two goals and looked the one class performer in our midfield.
We're your glasses steamed up by your late arrival?
-
How do explain away the two assists?
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
You at the game then Paulie?
I was. He was involved in two goals and looked the one class performer in our midfield.
We're your glasses steamed up by your late arrival?
You're right. I have no sense of humour whatsoever and can give it put but not take it. Goodbye.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
You at the game then Paulie?
I was. He was involved in two goals and looked the one class performer in our midfield.
We're your glasses steamed up by your late arrival?
You're right. I have no sense of humour whatsoever and can give it put but not take it. Goodbye.
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
You at the game then Paulie?
I was. He was involved in two goals and looked the one class performer in our midfield.
We're your glasses steamed up by your late arrival?
You're right. I have no sense of humour whatsoever and can give it put but not take it. Goodbye.
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
He was fukin terrible. He also shirked countless tackles.
Are you serious?
Ireland set up the first AND played a lovely through ball to Gabby for the second.
This shirking tackles nonsense is the same sort of thing we used to hear about Downing, even when he was consistently our best player.
You at the game then Paulie?
I was. He was involved in two goals and looked the one class performer in our midfield.
We're your glasses steamed up by your late arrival?
You're right. I have no sense of humour whatsoever and can give it put but not take it. Goodbye.
Ireland the one class performer in our midfield? Fuck me Jesus
You and me know yet again we were a shambles in midfield, with the manager shitting himself on the sidelines. Ireland was more bothered about keeping his glow in the dark cast clean.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
Yep he played well apparently, but some people do seem to have an agenda against him.
Indeed they do. Some real vitriol directed at him from a couple of Villa fans when he went off; all to do with his wages and flash cars. No comments on how he'd played (other than "you're effing s**t ireland, eff off") because, fact is, he was excellent last night. Some great runs down the channels, always looking for the ball and some really intelligent passing picking out the likes of Gabby and Benteke without even having to look up. It's also worth noting that in the first half, when under the cosh, he was fighting for every ball and acting as a good outlet going forward. Admittedly he tired a little in the second half but that's to be expected. On the whole a great performance from him and he simply has to play.
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
Yep he played well apparently, but some people do seem to have an agenda against him.
Indeed they do. Some real vitriol directed at him from a couple of Villa fans when he went off; all to do with his wages and flash cars. No comments on how he'd played (other than "you're effing s**t ireland, eff off") because, fact is, he was excellent last night. Some great runs down the channels, always looking for the ball and some really intelligent passing picking out the likes of Gabby and Benteke without even having to look up. It's also worth noting that in the first half, when under the cosh, he was fighting for every ball and acting as a good outlet going forward. Admittedly he tired a little in the second half but that's to be expected. On the whole a great performance from him and he simply has to play.
Stephen Ireland is everything that is wrong with Aston Villa. Talk me through his missed and bottled challenges? When did he fight in the first half?
-
Who got the most assists in the game?
-
Ireland was one of our best players last night. Ok, so he didn't win too many 50/50 tackles, so what? Vlaar didn't set up 2 goals and he won all his tackles, they both had reasonable games though
Ireland has his job and Vlaar has his.
-
I don't think I even want Petrov to play for us competitively again, I just want to see him pull through this terrible illness and live out the rest of his life peacefully; away from the public eye. I have this image of his testimonial against Celtic in front of a Villa Park packed to the rafters within the next few years and I'd like to believe that will be it.
Just reading that has brought tears to my eyes.
I hope that Exeter, Torquay, and the two Bristol clubs are not in the last 8 as I really don't fancy another midnight trip around the Worcestershire countryside.
After a superb performance last night Ireland just has to start in the midfield every Premier match; I suspect one or two posters who thought otherwise couldn't handle their pre-match Aldi beer. At one stage I'd forgotten that KEA was even on the pitch.
-
listening to various radio stations this morning and some of them didnt even mention our win yet before the match we were featured heavilly with lots of talk about us going out, they dont like us do they?
There was a giantkilling at Wigan and a 7-5 at Reading, I don't think our win over Swindon was that high on any agenda really.
-
It was a cold night at Swindon. Their crowd were pretty good though , that is a noisy place..
Ireland was great , I thought he had a great game. I think the big issue with Ireland is all in perception. He looks like a very intelligent footballer and studies the move before making the pass etc. I think this then makes him look a little pedestrian in his style. He doesn't make bursting lightning runs, he doesn't look like he's breaking into a sweat and this, people think means he isn't trying. I think people should realise what is going on . We can't all be blood and thunder and run around like headless chicken. He just looks a little too calm at times and appears sometimes sloppy, but this I am sure is just his style. He was certainly having a great game on Tuesday.
Swindon had nothing to lose and ran at us from the kick off. They may as well lose 10 nil as 2 nil so why not go for it. When Villa needed it they turned up the wick. we could have had 2 or 3 in the last 10 mins, never in doubt!
Glad it's over though.
Going to the County ground really did take me back to the great days of the early 70's though! there were so many grounds like that then.! If things don't improve we could be back at placers like that soon!
Keep the faith!
-
Class finishing earnt the win tonight. Lambert nearly cost us by refusing to bring on fresh legs. Another limp,spineless display by Ireland, don't want to see the overpaid, burnt out player in a villa shirt again. The last minute winner was even sweeter seeing that prick Di Canio acting up on the pitch after the whistle. God I was glad it didn't go into extra time, it was fukin freezing.
Ireland set-up the first and was lively throughout according to 5Live.
Yep he played well apparently, but some people do seem to have an agenda against him.
Indeed they do. Some real vitriol directed at him from a couple of Villa fans when he went off; all to do with his wages and flash cars. No comments on how he'd played (other than "you're effing s**t ireland, eff off") because, fact is, he was excellent last night. Some great runs down the channels, always looking for the ball and some really intelligent passing picking out the likes of Gabby and Benteke without even having to look up. It's also worth noting that in the first half, when under the cosh, he was fighting for every ball and acting as a good outlet going forward. Admittedly he tired a little in the second half but that's to be expected. On the whole a great performance from him and he simply has to play.
Stephen Ireland is everything that is wrong with Aston Villa. Talk me through his missed and bottled challenges? When did he fight in the first half?
Steven Ireland piss in your tea at half time?
-
Ireland is class and we need more of that not less.