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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Fergal on June 02, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
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Now we have a new manager what are our expectations for next season?
What will we have to achieve to call his first season a success? Personally I would be happy to see a gradual improvement based on buying quality and adding the youth from our academy and building from a solid base. I don't expect a top 6 or even a top10 next year, mid table would be just fine.
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I think a similar first season to MON. Bring in some quality players who will serve us both now and in the future, continue to develop the likes of Weimann, Clark, and Herd; and finish around mid-table through successful, attacking football.
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To build a side that attacks and plays good football and is no longer whipping boys for the teams at the top of the league. He needs to start the process of getting us back up the league.
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I'd be happy with mid-table and some beter football to be honest for next season then build from there.
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Midtable, at no point in serious danger of the drop will do.
Finishing above Smethwick and Sturk as top club in the Midlands (although small-time) would represent progress.
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Now you mention it, it would be very nice to finish above Albion.
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Now you mention it, it would be very nice to finish above Albion.
they will go down, business as usual
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With the current squad we could get 13th ish or with 2 or 3 good signings 9th . We were woefully mis-managed last season.
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With the current squad we could get 13th ish or with 2 or 3 good signings 9th . We were woefully mis-managed last season.
Agreed. I'm fed up of everyone saying we have a poor squad, it's not true.
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Welcome to Villa paul
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I'd be happy with mid-table and some beter football to be honest for next season then build from there.
Exactly!
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With the current squad we could get 13th ish or with 2 or 3 good signings 9th . We were woefully mis-managed last season.
That's how I see it too. I think three clever additions could see us finish top ten. We have a squad that should not be fighting relegation but did. He has a real opportunity to lay a very solid foundation next season.
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To look forward to going to the match again would be enough for me.
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I will be happy just to see the back of the shit football to start with.
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I agree we were woefully mismanaged last season. I dont think we need to buy many players at all. A striker obviously and Grant Holt would fit the bill. a Roy Keane type leader in the middle of the park for the kids to play around and one or two competent defenders would help. That's just four players required. Out with Warnock, Collins, Hutton, and Dunne and comfortable top 8 no problem. With all out attacking play some 5-4 wins and some 4-5 losses but very entertaining and good value for money football.
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Just freshen it up, get the best out of herd, gardner, clark etc and play good football
10th and a cup run but we a really positive start after last 2 years of utter utter shite
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Play to win.
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1. To try to win every game his team plays
2. To build a team of players who are proud to play for the Villa and represent the people watching them (this includes getting rid of Dunne, Collins, Warnock and the like quick smart)
3. To conduct himself in a way befitting the manager of the greatest foootball team on earth, with class and dignity
Other than that, top 8 and a decent run in a cup would do the job for the first season.
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Build something that is actually sustainable, based on hard work, skill and entertaining that includes passing the bloody ball. For the thicko out there, that doesn't mean we have to play like Barcelona, just practicing good habits that lead to success. I'm convinced Lambert is exactly what we need and we are perfect for him, we'll grow together.
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Give me £520's worth of entertaining and quality football at Villa Park this season. If I was only interested in the result I'd sit at home and watch on ceefax.
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I agree we were woefully mismanaged last season. I dont think we need to buy many players at all. A striker obviously and Grant Holt would fit the bill. a Roy Keane type leader in the middle of the park for the kids to play around and one or two competent defenders would help. That's just four players required. Out with Warnock, Collins, Hutton, and Dunne and comfortable top 8 no problem. With all out attacking play some 5-4 wins and some 4-5 losses but very entertaining and good value for money football.
4 in and 4 out?
A big problem we had last season was squad size and strength.
I think we should be looking to be bringing in around 8.
I agree with the 4 out, and, yes, a midfield leader and 2 quality defenders too. We'll have Holman, who should be playing straight off, but I reckon we should also be looking at 5 good quality squad players. Holt does fit into that.
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3-4 good signings and we could get 7th-10th. We could perhaps catch back up with Everton and Newcastle, who won't repeat what the did last season. I think we need a minimum target of 50 points. Villa should never be getting less than that. Never.
I think below the top 5, it'll be tight between 4-5 clubs this year potentially and I'd want us to be one of those.
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Rebuilding every 4 years or so is part of our dna,so i hope he can clean out the remaining deadwood,help to bring some of the better youngsters,excited to see how Carruthers developes.
4 or 5 intelligent signings,a half decent cup run,taking the game to the better teams at home,9-12 finish would be a big step in the right direction.
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I'll be very happy to see us go toe to toe with every team we play and more than that, play some exciting football. I don't mind us losing 4-3 if we have a go, but I want to see the players giving it a good go. Can't wait to get the season going now.
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Lambert has to look into the eyes of the experienced players in the squad and ask if they really want to win or are here just for the money. We have too many that are just drifting.
One of the first players he should buy is a team captain. Somebody that is respected and can inspire others. Killing two birds with one stone would mean that he could either be a strong central defender or a driving force in the middle of the field.
I believe we have a nucleus of players that are good enough and now we have a tactically astute manager that will get the best out of them.
I would like to think that we can finish top ten but the main thing is to build a sustainable platform for the future and a 1st team that can welcome young players with a seamless transition.
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Top 10 and a cup run and then we can take it from there.
The main task is to produce reasonably entertaining, watchable football, which is much needed after the complete toilet we were served up last season.
Take stock of all the players and then decide which areas need strengthening, it's vital that Lerner backs him with a decent transfer budget, say £20m + proceeds from the dead wood.
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One of the first players he should buy is a team captain. Somebody that is respected and can inspire others. Killing two birds with one stone would mean that he could either be a strong central defender or a driving force in the middle of the field.
I was thinking of this,we need a big man mountain defender in the Olaf,Laursen mold,a good player and a leader of men.
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To look forward to going to the match again would be enough for me.
Sums up my feelings exactly!
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An important task is to replace the shitter than shit full backs.
I'll be more than delighted if I never have to see Mutton and the Diddy fuckwit in Villa shirts again.
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I'd like him to drink more whisky so he has a big red nose and still be here in 20 years time saying things like 'I really hated the time when Man Utd dominated English football and my 21st League win together with the 5 European cup wins puts us ahead by most people's standards. The only thing I have left to do is win F.A. Cup...'
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I will take the near 50% win ratio which he had at Norwich.
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I want him to go into every match no matter who we are playing and where we are playing with the intent to win the game.
I want him to win at least 10 home games.
I want to not lose any home games.
And most of all I want him to treat the FA cup at the most important competition there is and win it ASAP.
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Expectations are somewhat dependent on how much he can spend, and who he can move on.
Worst case of minimal budget and continued wage bill scrimping restricting freebies, then I would say 12-13th place would be about right and above would be an overachievement.
If he can bring in a ball winner, a central defender and new full backs then I think we could be challenging for a European spot 5-7th.
Either way I don't see us being troubled by relegation this season.
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We have a good goalkeeper and centre forward already in the team and some good young players. Add 2 or 3 to 1st team and I'd ask why we can't 'do a Newcastle' and finish top 6. The quality outside of the usual suspects isn't all that daunting.
That said, after the last couple of dire seasons and the likely smallish transfer budget my expectation is probably more like 8th and a cup run and I'd be happy with that to begin with. Like others have said, making us entertaining and competitive is the bottom line. No surrender and a pride in the shirt from ever player in every game.
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Win the league and FA Cup. At a push i'll accept top 3 and FA Cup.
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Win the league and FA Cup. At a push i'll accept top 3 and FA Cup.
Low expectations pessimist!
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Win the league and FA Cup. At a push i'll accept top 3 and FA Cup.
Low expectations pessimist!
I blame OVM for lowering my expectations.
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To look forward to going to the match again would be enough for me.
This
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An important task is to replace the shitter than shit full backs.
I'll be more than delighted if I never have to see Mutton and the Diddy fuckwit in Villa shirts again.
I'd be happy if Mr Tickle kept Warnock as he played well enough at left-back and in midfield towards the end of the season. I think Leee-ha! should start at right back so, at full-back, we need one first choice left-back and a back-up right-back I reckon.
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A successful season in my eyes would be one where the club has its pride back.
I want other clubs to play the Villa knowing they're going to get a tough game, not expecting us to roll over.
I want us to be known for playing football the way it's intended to be played, not the anti-football we were renowned for last year.
I want us to start to build the foundations where the youth have the support to come through whilst being stretched to make the most of themselves, not seemingly being held back.
And most of all I want to wake up on matchday feeling excited about the game, not wondering whether I'll see a goal or even a shot on target.
I genuinely think Lambert can achieve all of this over the next 12 months.
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I want to see the young players continue their development and improve under Paul Lamberts management and coaching.
I want to see us have a go at teams and not sit back and make sure we don't get beat heavily.
I want to see rid of the likes of Dunne, Warnock, Hutton, and Collins.
I want to see players like Barry Bannan realise that if their off the field behaviour is unacceptable they won't be at the club any longer.
I want to see a culture of good football, played to entertain the fans.
I want to see players play in their correct position.
I want to see players join our club who see it as an enormous honour and not just for stupid wages.
I want to see players 'earning' a sensible (for football) salary and have regular contact with the fans - particularly the kids.
I want to see the players acknowledge the supporters at the end of every game, win, lose or draw - when I say that I don't just mean a quick clap from the half way line and then bugger off down the tunnel.
I want to see the players play without fear.
I want to see players walk off the pitch at the end of the game knowing they've given everything for the club whether we've won, lost or drawn.
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I want the players to start enjoying their football again. It's amazing what confidence and belief will do.
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No more surrender monkey talk about "elite" clubs that are better than us.
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What's great is that we have tangible excitement for the first time in a long time again. Now Randy back Lambert with some funds and we can be really positive going into the season.
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Top 10 next season and then we will take it from there, delighted with this appointment and cannot wait for august to see the start of the lambert era.
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FA Cup soon . One thing I have not seen us win . But PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt got it nailed on head.
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I expect to be able to watch the Villa again without wanting to scratch my eyes out.
Could a passing mod change my name to Berteeeebeeee. Thanks
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looking forward to going to games with an expectation of players making an effort , earning their corn, having a go. mid table would be acceptable, please dispense with Hutton, Warnock, Collins and Dunne, sorry to say but I would also let Bannan go , he has all the makings of the next Lee Hendrie. . I would not be upset to see Chris Eagles come to us.
We have to be realistic, but just going to game with an idea that we have a chance to win with some decent attacking football, instead of the crap we have been served up , Just to give me value for money for my Season ticket will make me smile!
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Top ten finish, really hard working, tough to beat. Defend properly from corners. Get rid of Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Delfouneso, Bannan and possibly Gabby then blow the lot. Make it exciting to turn up to Villa Park again.
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I disagree with a few comments that our squad is good enough as it is...there are far too many players not upto the standard particularly in defense and midfield. A few good signings to strengthen in these positions and we should be back in the top 10, then pushing for Europe the following season.
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I disagree with a few comments that our squad is good enough as it is...there are far too many players not upto the standard particularly in defense and midfield. A few good signings to strengthen in these positions and we should be back in the top 10, then pushing for Europe the following season.
The squad is nowhere near good enough.
Let's be entirely honest about it, Lambert is a good manager, but without money, we are still fucked.
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I disagree with a few comments that our squad is good enough as it is...there are far too many players not upto the standard particularly in defense and midfield. A few good signings to strengthen in these positions and we should be back in the top 10, then pushing for Europe the following season.
The squad is nowhere near good enough.
Let's be entirely honest about it, Lambert is a good manager, but without money, we are still fucked.
Very true, but the problem starts from the back. It's no good signing all the attackers you want if you have defenders as panicky and as inept on the ball as ours are. They have to be replaced as the first order of business.
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I disagree with a few comments that our squad is good enough as it is...there are far too many players not upto the standard particularly in defense and midfield. A few good signings to strengthen in these positions and we should be back in the top 10, then pushing for Europe the following season.
The squad is nowhere near good enough.
Let's be entirely honest about it, Lambert is a good manager, but without money, we are still fucked.
Very true, but the problem starts from the back. It's no good signing all the attackers you want if you have defenders as panicky and as inept on the ball as ours are. They have to be replaced as the first order of business.
I agree entirely.
Warnock Hutton, Collins and Dunne are all not good enough.
That's a lot of work to replace them there.
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If Clark can make it as a centre back - and I think he can, but we'll have to see - then that's one of the positions solved, because his passing is obviously pretty good. The others are a huge area to improve upon, though, and maybe Clark won't play at his best at centre back, which would obviously make the situation even tougher.
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I disagree with a few comments that our squad is good enough as it is...there are far too many players not upto the standard particularly in defense and midfield. A few good signings to strengthen in these positions and we should be back in the top 10, then pushing for Europe the following season.
The squad is nowhere near good enough.
Let's be entirely honest about it, Lambert is a good manager, but without money, we are still fucked.
Very true, but the problem starts from the back. It's no good signing all the attackers you want if you have defenders as panicky and as inept on the ball as ours are. They have to be replaced as the first order of business.
I agree entirely.
Warnock Hutton, Collins and Dunne are all not good enough.
That's a lot of work to replace them there.
I agree 100%.
The question is will Lambert give these players a chance or identify the problems and be able to replace these liabilities whilst also having the budget to bring in some quality in midfield? Can our defensive donkeys be transformed with good coaching and motivation?
Lambert doesnt strike me as a manager who will accept players underforming or just generally being shite, but I dont think he'll be able to make wholesale changes in the squad straight away. If he can make 4 signings (2 in defense and 2 in midfield) then that should make us more solid at the back, provide protection in midfield and make us more creative going forward.
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Give me £520's worth of entertaining and quality football at Villa Park this season. If I was only interested in the result I'd sit at home and watch on ceefax.
Yep
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Win games or play nice football. Both if we're lucky.
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Play attractive, attacking football with passion and pride!
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Top 4 finish or Lambert OUT!
More seriously I would like us to play attractive football and score some goals. As for the table, keeping us up comfortably is just fine for his first season.
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We need to find some midfielders and defenders with some pace. We are without doubt the slowest team out there and always are found wanting when other teams break on us. It doesn't help that some of those same players are also technically inept.
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No real expectations, just hope that Plumbutt can continue his upward managerial curve before he leaves us for the Mun Utd job!
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I think we may see the potential in Delph under the new regime! The kid has talent, no doubt. Just need someone to nurture his more natural attacking side. I'm really looking forward to the new season!
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Just keep well away from the relegation zone at all times. My nerves won't stand another season like the last one.
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Try to win every game we play.
Unlike that miserable git last season.
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Great appointment in my opinion. 7-10 would be acceptable next season and hopefully decent runs in both cups please.
Hope Lerner does back him up with the rumoured 20m war chest plus any revenue raised from those he may be able to move out. I wouldnt be too concerned if he also moved out Agbonlahor and/or Bent and brought in someone like Jordan Rhodes who wants to prove himself at a higher level .
Hopefully Gardner will continue to improve and become and integral part of midfield and Carruthers get more opportunities to prove his potential.
Priority has to go on defense and a midfielder who can control a game
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Last season, Lambert picked weakened teams for home ties in both cup competitions -result: home defeats to MKD and Leicester.
Should make him popular in B6...
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That's a happy post, I'm sure at norwich he had a very different agenda
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Really pleased with the appointment.
I think it would be wrong to say I have no expectations - I expect better than the past 2 seasons. But I'm so relieved to be shot of TSM and confident in PL's abilities that I'm probably more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt (as I did with GH for large portions of his tenure).
What would I be pleased with? A top 10 finish, and making great strides in getting the best out of the talent we already have. If we get the likes of Bent, Ireland, Zog and Delph playing to their best I think we could surprise a few people. Granted, it may be a big if with some of them.
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Mid-table, some more bums on seats and a few decent signings.
That's all.
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Expectations? Possibly something similar to Big Ron's first season - mixed bag of results but some signings coming in that can make a real impact in the next few years. Also, higher average attendances than last season and a finish between 9-12th.
Hopes? Finish between 7-10th, couple of decent cup runs, see further progress from Weimann and Herd, take some points from the clubs around the top of the division.
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Last season, Lambert picked weakened teams for home ties in both cup competitions -result: home defeats to MKD and Leicester.
Should make him popular in B6...
We struggled against relegation last season (and kind of the season before). I think our league form should be the priority for the new manager.
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Last season, Lambert picked weakened teams for home ties in both cup competitions -result: home defeats to MKD and Leicester.
Should make him popular in B6...
A weakened Villa side next season should be much better than a weakened Norwich side was this season.
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Expectations? Possibly something similar to Big Ron's first season - mixed bag of results but some signings coming in that can make a real impact in the next few years. Also, higher average attendances than last season and a finish between 9-12th.
Hopes? Finish between 7-10th, couple of decent cup runs, see further progress from Weimann and Herd, take some points from the clubs around the top of the division.
This for me.
But I'd be happier going all out to win the cup games and sacrifice the odd league game providided we were mid table - like Fulham did a couple of years ago.
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I want to look forward to and enjoy watching Villa again. Last season I dreaded Villa matches.
I want Villa to try and win every game (I can accept losing if we try to win and the other team is better) and not go out to avoid losing.
That's all for next season.
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Comfortably avoiding relegation,playing attractive attacking football and always looking to have a go at teams, no matter if it is man u away or Southampton at home just go out and play with optimism and the belief that we can win the game.
Welcome Paul,good luck.
UTV!
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Just looking forward to getting up at 7am and watching the mighty Villa again!!! The last couple of years have been torturous!!!
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Great appointment in my opinion. 7-10 would be acceptable next season and hopefully decent runs in both cups please.
Hope Lerner does back him up with the rumoured 20m war chest plus any revenue raised from those he may be able to move out. I wouldnt be too concerned if he also moved out Agbonlahor and/or Bent and brought in someone like Jordan Rhodes who wants to prove himself at a higher level .
Hopefully Gardner will continue to improve and become and integral part of midfield and Carruthers get more opportunities to prove his potential.
Priority has to go on defense and a midfielder who can control a game
7th would be an amazing achievement. I can't see it myself unless we go on a massive splurge, which I don't think we will
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Unless he is given a decent amount of money I really don't expect us to finish much higher. The squad is threadbare and lacks premiership quality. I would say only Bent, Gabby, Given and maybe Ireland are our only senior players good enough for a top 10 side. We are going to be over relying on the players still coming through. Lambert is a massive improvement on McLeish but he isn't a miracle worker, he must be backed.
My only expectation of Lambert is to actually have a go at the opposition.
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Build a team around Given, Ireland and Bent with attacking intent.
Get better seasons from Gabby & NZogbia.
Think about replacing Hutton & Warnock.
Clark & Gardner are the future of our side.
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I'm very optimistic as I think even our defence as it stands can cut-out 15-ish goals just by being well-drilled and us having the ball up the other end more. Similarly, CNZ, Gabby, Bent and Ireland might add 15 to the goals for column. That should translate to a lot of extra points, with the key being a functional midfield.
But what I'm looking forward to most is our players actually moving about a bit.
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Yes, a bit of movement off the ball will be nice to see.
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I want to look forward to and enjoy watching Villa again. Last season I dreaded Villa matches.
I want Villa to try and win every game (I can accept losing if we try to win and the other team is better) and not go out to avoid losing.
That's all for next season.
This for me:
I can honestly say that the trips to VP down the M6 were a drudgery last season - I really couldn`t see us winning games and in the main I was right
Onwards and upwards - when is the ticket office open again?
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I think he will have a fair wedge to spend in revamping the midfield and defence.
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I want to look forward to and enjoy watching Villa again. Last season I dreaded Villa matches.
I want Villa to try and win every game (I can accept losing if we try to win and the other team is better) and not go out to avoid losing.
That's all for next season.
This for me:
I can honestly say that the trips to VP down the M6 were a drudgery last season - I really couldn`t see us winning games and in the main I was right
Onwards and upwards - when is the ticket office open again?
Too right Clive. Even the away games were notable only for the beers before hand. Every single one just made me wish I'd stayed in the pub instead.
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I was thinking about this yesterday. I hope Randy has learned from the mistakes of the previous few years. Gradual progression at a steady rate is better than boom and bust. I hope our period of austerity is over, but if not then the addition of one or two proven quality players along with the continued development of our youth and we should be safe from relegation. I'd also like to see something done about the players physical fitness in relation to our injury problems and ball retention. I heard Andy Gray talking recently about his time as assistant manager at Villa during the BFR days. We had Roger Spry as fitness coach, and Andy Gray was waxing lyrical about the virtues of off the ball movement. Apparently Roger Spry was an expert in Brazilian martial arts. Now I'm not saying all the players should be trained killers, but some off the ball movement and making yourself available to receive a pass rather than hoofball would be an improvement. Remember the goal that we scored at home to Sheffield Wednesday under BFR. Total football, not hoofball!
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I would like Villa to play for the whole match rather than giving goals away in the last few minutes. It costs us dearly.
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Build a team around Given, Ireland and Bent with attacking intent.
Get better seasons from Gabby & NZogbia.
Think about replacing Hutton & Warnock.
Clark & Gardner are the future of our side.
This. Though I still think there is some ability in Warnock
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Here we go again!! Who will it be this time next year ? When is Lerner going to learn that we need an experienced Manager, not a rookie. If he had given MON the money he wanted instead of wasting it on Hasbeens and failures we would be in the Champions League by now. Look out Championship, we are definitely coming. :'(
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Nose?
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Nose?
Looks like it.
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Here we go again!! Who will it be this time next year ? When is Lerner going to learn that we need an experienced Manager, not a rookie. If he had given MON the money he wanted instead of wasting it on Hasbeens and failures we would be in the Champions League by now. Look out Championship, we are definitely coming. :'(
Pardon ?
I think MON did his share of wasting money...on contracts if not on players..
Edit : :facepalm:
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Here we go again!! Who will it be this time next year ? When is Lerner going to learn that we need an experienced Manager, not a rookie. If he had given MON the money he wanted instead of wasting it on Hasbeens and failures we would be in the Champions League by now. Look out Championship, we are definitely coming. :'(
Marvellous!
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Poor bastard.
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Our off the ball movement has been dreadful for years under a lot of different managers. If Lambert can get it right I will be over the moon! You just have to look at how poor our retention is at throw-ins to see seehow poor we are.
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Here we go again!! Who will it be this time next year ? When is Lerner going to learn that we need an experienced Manager, not a rookie. If he had given MON the money he wanted instead of wasting it on Hasbeens and failures we would be in the Champions League by now. Look out Championship, we are definitely coming. :'(
Good try Mr.
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That's a good point Drummond, we are particularly poor at keep possession form throw-ins. I noticed watching England yesterday that it's prevalent in the national side too, along with clearing the ball at all costs when under no real pressure in tight areas. It's a British thing and we have been particularly 'British' for a good while now.
A few of our players can do it (Ireland, Bannan) but there's no composure at the back whatsoever and that;s a big reason why we are often ugly to watch.
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Here we go again!! Who will it be this time next year ? When is Lerner going to learn that we need an experienced Manager, not a rookie. If he had given MON the money he wanted instead of wasting it on Hasbeens and failures we would be in the Champions League by now. Look out Championship, we are definitely coming. :'(
looks like mommys left the nosers laptop on again naughty
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That's a good point Drummond, we are particularly poor at keep possession form throw-ins. I noticed watching England yesterday that it's prevalent in the national side too, along with clearing the ball at all costs when under no real pressure in tight areas. It's a British thing and we have been particularly 'British' for a good while now.
A few of our players can do it (Ireland, Bannan) but there's no composure at the back whatsoever and that;s a big reason why we are often ugly to watch.
Well said. That throw-in thing has been bothering me for years and years. I absolutely hate it when, for example, Albrighton is fighting for the ball on the right wing and the ball is slid out of play by the left back for a throw. Albrighton picks up the ball, looks for the quick option - and not one teammate is looking at him. The opposition is out of shape and vulnerable, but we're just trudging 'into position', unimaginative, not moving, heads down. Eventually Hutton takes the ball, looks around vainly for movement, before giving up and chucking the ball aimlessly down the line - to the opposition defence. It's miserable.
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Nose?
Looks like it.
Yes. The only previous post is
Heroes Discussion / Re: McLeish: bit of a cad or what?
« on: April 03, 2012, 12:41:45 PM »
Get behind him instead of continually whingeing. The problem stems from the appoint of the f--g and the h----s which was a complete and utter disaster. Give the poor man time to get things right. The previous two nearly completed the ruin of the Club which Lerner started when he would not back MON. All that money for Darren Bent !!!?
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Here we go again!! Who will it be this time next year ? When is Lerner going to learn that we need an experienced Manager, not a rookie. If he had given MON the money he wanted instead of wasting it on Hasbeens and failures we would be in the Champions League by now. Look out Championship, we are definitely coming. :'(
how odd . contradict yourself in that .
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Here we go again!! Who will it be this time next year ? When is Lerner going to learn that we need an experienced Manager, not a rookie. If he had given MON the money he wanted instead of wasting it on Hasbeens and failures we would be in the Champions League by now. Look out Championship, we are definitely coming. :'(
how odd . contradict yourself in that .
bless his little blue socks
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Top half finish and good football. I want the FA cup so bad. Surely it has to happen at some point!?
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It is going to take time and we will need to be patient, much as we were when MON arrived. He had to continue with the likes McCann, Baros, Osborne and others until he could put his own print on the team and it will be the same with Lambert. Much as we might want a big clear out, it is probably unwise to let so much experience go so soon and it will have to be gradual. What we do want I think as a minimum is a have a go attitude against the top teams, a feeling that we go out to beat anyone at VP, seeing the youngsters encouraged to play with some freedom and just some pride in following the club again which was it was difficult to drum up last season
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Nose?
Looks like it.
Yes. The only previous post is
Heroes Discussion / Re: McLeish: bit of a cad or what?
« on: April 03, 2012, 12:41:45 PM »
Get behind him instead of continually whingeing. The problem stems from the appoint of the f--g and the h----s which was a complete and utter disaster. Give the poor man time to get things right. The previous two nearly completed the ruin of the Club which Lerner started when he would not back MON. All that money for Darren Bent !!!?
What are "the f--g and the h----s"?!
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Nose?
Looks like it.
Yes. The only previous post is
Heroes Discussion / Re: McLeish: bit of a cad or what?
« on: April 03, 2012, 12:41:45 PM »
Get behind him instead of continually whingeing. The problem stems from the appoint of the f--g and the h----s which was a complete and utter disaster. Give the poor man time to get things right. The previous two nearly completed the ruin of the Club which Lerner started when he would not back MON. All that money for Darren Bent !!!?
What are "the f--g and the h----s"?!
Well one is "frog" reference to Houllier I assume - charming...
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I expect them to play football - not hoof the damned thing out of defence or pass to opponents (big ask)
I expect them to conduct themselves with dignity and as adults and role models (don't laugh at the back)
I expect them to attack attack attack
I expect the FA Cup
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Expectations: A bit of dignity put back into our club; sadly missing for to long.
Pride in playing for our club;again ,missing for to long.
A manager who does not conceed defeat before the players have even got on the team coach.
A manager who has the balls to admit they made a mistake and put the mistake right,instead of passing the blame around again and again.
A manager who is great at motivation and getting the best out of a limited squad.
A manager who actually gives a toss about our club and will fight every step of the way to bring success back to Villa.
Now is that to much to ask? Seems to have been for while now. It's about time that changed now with Lambert at the helm.
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He will have to deal with a severe case of bullying:
Dear Mr Frenette,
my name is Ashley Young and I live in Manchester. One of my friends has been enduring bullying. His name is Gabriel Agbonlahor. We have been playing football together since June 2011. The bully has been doing it since September 2010. He is called Darren Rigby. Each time we lose a match this man sends my friend a message saying "I will hurt you if you don't score goals". So it is cyber-bullying. My friend is totally disappointed that the best supporter of our club has been sending that type of message.
Your site is not interesting for my case because it is for school pupils and there aren’t any examples for footballers. So, I would like you to help my friend.
Thanks in advance
Yours Sincerely,
Ashley Young
I have just been marking a load of e-mails sent in by my Year 10 students (14-15 yrs old). The task was to "send an e-mail to Mr Frenette, an anti-bullying expert, as one of your classmates has been bullied for some time...".
I thought I'd share this one you and with Mr Lambert as it made me smile (and so that you can all see that I take my AVFC evangelisation/torture programme VERY seriously.
About ten of the little buggers have used the name "Darren" or "Rigby" as the name of the bully in their e-mails. I can't think why.
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What are "the f--g and the h----s"?!
Frog and Haggis – new flavour of Walkers Crisps (Toad n Tripe in Aldi's own brand)
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What are "the f--g and the h----s"?!
Frog and Haggis – new flavour of Walkers Crisps (Toad n Tripe in Aldi's own brand)
Good one
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It is going to take time and we will need to be patient, much as we were when MON arrived. He had to continue with the likes McCann, Baros, Osborne and others until he could put his own print on the team and it will be the same with Lambert. Much as we might want a big clear out, it is probably unwise to let so much experience go so soon and it will have to be gradual. What we do want I think as a minimum is a have a go attitude against the top teams, a feeling that we go out to beat anyone at VP, seeing the youngsters encouraged to play with some freedom and just some pride in following the club again which was it was difficult to drum up last season
Agreed but think it's way off the mark to bracket Baros with Osborne. He had been top scorer at Euro 2004, and eight years on will be a starter for Czech at this year's tournament too. Talented player but has/had to be managed properly and O'Neill coudn't be arsed working with temperamental fancy-dans.
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I expect them to play football - not hoof the damned thing out of defence or pass to opponents (big ask)
I expect them to conduct themselves with dignity and as adults and role models (don't laugh at the back)
I expect them to attack attack attack
I expect the FA Cup
This.
Though I am prepared to wait for another season of transition before we win the cup.
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It is going to take time and we will need to be patient, much as we were when MON arrived. He had to continue with the likes McCann, Baros, Osborne and others until he could put his own print on the team and it will be the same with Lambert. Much as we might want a big clear out, it is probably unwise to let so much experience go so soon and it will have to be gradual. What we do want I think as a minimum is a have a go attitude against the top teams, a feeling that we go out to beat anyone at VP, seeing the youngsters encouraged to play with some freedom and just some pride in following the club again which was it was difficult to drum up last season
Agreed but think it's way off the mark to bracket Baros with Osborne. He had been top scorer at Euro 2004, and eight years on will be a starter for Czech at this year's tournament too. Talented player but has/had to be managed properly and O'Neill coudn't be arsed working with temperamental fancy-dans.
I was just using a few examples I could remember Eammon! I could have just easily have said Sorenson, Chris Sutton and Liam Ridgewell, all of whom MON used in that first season to a greater or lesser extent as I recall
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I expect to be able to watch the Villa again without wanting to scratch my eyes out.
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I think the final straw with Baros was his abject 'performance' at Anfield when we were 3-0 down at half-time and he hadn't tried a leg. I think any of us would have lost patience with him at that point. MON brought Gabby and Sutton on at half-time and they tried and did much better as we won the second half 1-0.
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It is going to take time and we will need to be patient, much as we were when MON arrived. He had to continue with the likes McCann, Baros, Osborne and others until he could put his own print on the team and it will be the same with Lambert. Much as we might want a big clear out, it is probably unwise to let so much experience go so soon and it will have to be gradual. What we do want I think as a minimum is a have a go attitude against the top teams, a feeling that we go out to beat anyone at VP, seeing the youngsters encouraged to play with some freedom and just some pride in following the club again which was it was difficult to drum up last season
Agreed but think it's way off the mark to bracket Baros with Osborne.
Continue with the likes of Osbourne?! MON was the one who gave Osbourne his debut!!
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It is going to take time and we will need to be patient, much as we were when MON arrived. He had to continue with the likes McCann, Baros, Osborne and others until he could put his own print on the team and it will be the same with Lambert. Much as we might want a big clear out, it is probably unwise to let so much experience go so soon and it will have to be gradual. What we do want I think as a minimum is a have a go attitude against the top teams, a feeling that we go out to beat anyone at VP, seeing the youngsters encouraged to play with some freedom and just some pride in following the club again which was it was difficult to drum up last season
Agreed but think it's way off the mark to bracket Baros with Osborne.
Continue with the likes of Osbourne?! MON was the one who gave Osbourne his debut!!
Then gave him a massive contract.
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Expectations. 9th - 12th please with a decent League Cup run. Anything beyong that would be a huge bonus.
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League Champions.
League Cup Winners.
F.A. Cup Winners.
A little bit optimistic?
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League Champions.
League Cup Winners.
F.A. Cup Winners.
A little bit optimistic?
For you getting through the day without a bit of bad luck is a bit too optimistic, as is the above. Well a tad.
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He will have to deal with a severe case of bullying:
Dear Mr Frenette,
my name is Ashley Young and I live in Manchester. One of my friends has been enduring bullying. His name is Gabriel Agbonlahor. We have been playing football together since June 2011. The bully has been doing it since September 2010. He is called Darren Rigby. Each time we lose a match this man sends my friend a message saying "I will hurt you if you don't score goals". So it is cyber-bullying. My friend is totally disappointed that the best supporter of our club has been sending that type of message.
Your site is not interesting for my case because it is for school pupils and there aren’t any examples for footballers. So, I would like you to help my friend.
Thanks in advance
Yours Sincerely,
Ashley Young
I have just been marking a load of e-mails sent in by my Year 10 students (14-15 yrs old). The task was to "send an e-mail to Mr Frenette, an anti-bullying expert, as one of your classmates has been bullied for some time...".
I thought I'd share this one you and with Mr Lambert as it made me smile (and so that you can all see that I take my AVFC evangelisation/torture programme VERY seriously.
About ten of the little buggers have used the name "Darren" or "Rigby" as the name of the bully in their e-mails. I can't think why.
That's marvellous BE.
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The first thing is too sort out the attitude, discipline and squad moral, then he can start rebuilding the team
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The first thing is too sort out the attitude, discipline and squad moral, then he can start rebuilding the team
Absolutely