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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Iago on December 06, 2011, 12:02:22 AM
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When does the Nike deal expire? I am sure it is this season.
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Given the current state of affairs who cares which factory in the far east makes the shirts?
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Given the current state of affairs who cares which factory in the far east makes the shirts?
Just interested to see what business deal Randy can strike up.
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Rumour has it, that it's going to be Macron, same as West Ham and Leeds
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Rumour has it, that it's going to be Macron, same as West Ham and Leeds
The way we're going it will be Makro.
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Makro's good but I'm more of a Costco man these days, 1 kilo of Lurpac £2.65.
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Rumour has it, that it's going to be Macron, same as West Ham and Leeds
Wow that will be a deal and a half - get someone who no fecker has ever heard of
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God we are truely going backwards... Henson anyone?
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I heard that it's a toss up between Nisa & Londis
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I was kind of hoping Nike would keep us on, but shift us to Umbro (who I believe Nike own).
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Nike are lazy. Macron would be an improvement. I'd prefer Under Armour.
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With our profile currently being what it is we would be lucky to get anyone to provide us with a kit
Remember the Nike deal was when we were looking at the stars and our stock was positive - who the hell would want to be associated with us now
Really depressing at the moment
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Nike have been nothing short of a disgrace
I just looked on their website:
http://store.nike.com/gb/en_gb/?l=shop,search&searchList=aston%20villa
CLUB TEAMS
Barcelona
Manchester United
Arsenal
Juventus
Inter Milan
FC Porto
Atletico Madrid
Celtic
Hertha
Boca Juniors
Paris Saint-Germain
PSV Eindhoven
FC Spartak
Werder
Galatasaray
FC Zenit
We are not even under the list of football teams
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Macron. I ask you. Are Matchwinner still going? Or Nutmeg?
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The more I think of it, the more I think Randy is thick as fuck.
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http://www.prodirectsoccer.com/Products/Nike-Teamwear-Football-Shirts-Nike-Classic-III-SS-Jersey-Team-Kits-Team-RedUniversity-Blue-31992.aspx
This one would have done...
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I heard a rumour Puma were bidding for the contract.
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I've liked the puma kits of late.
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To be honest, as long as it looks good, is of high quality and is on sale in the club shop promptly rather than in November then I don't care who makes it.
All of these things seem to have proved beyond Nike so IMO any change is good change.
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Yeah, I've not been overly impressed with the kits over the last few years. For me the acorns kit with the round collar was the best by far. Everythig else has been so poor. You can tell Nike have bigger teams to look after. We're always the after thought.
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Nike have been nothing short of a disgrace
I just looked on their website:
http://store.nike.com/gb/en_gb/?l=shop,search&searchList=aston%20villa
CLUB TEAMS
Barcelona
Manchester United
Arsenal
Juventus
Inter Milan
FC Porto
Atletico Madrid
Celtic
Hertha
Boca Juniors
Paris Saint-Germain
PSV Eindhoven
FC Spartak
Werder
Galatasaray
FC Zenit
We are not even under the list of football teams
I wonder if this is Nike's fault or our own for not pushing this type of promotion when we struck up the deal? I know we can be our own worst enemies for playing down Villa's status and size in the scheme of things, but I'm pretty sure we have a profile at least as big as many of those clubs? The Lerner era's commercial department has been a vast improvement on Doug's BUT I reckon they still underestimate the potential of the "brand". More vision and commercial nous would solve this.
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I can see the franchise being decked out in Adeeeedas next season.
Nike are utter shyte.
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I love Adidas kits. And would love Adidas to make ours. Just can't see them interested in us.
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I was in the shop yesterday and asked the fella behind the counter if we were sticking with Nike and he said probably not but they are the last to know, he also said the fans will know when the sale starts with all the Nike stuff.
I think Nike don't do enough for us, they stuff they do have at the shop seems to be almost knock off, almost like the Villa have a load of poor stuff made and then get the Nike logo added to it, but I am sure that isn't the case ;)
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If we all got our knitting needles out, we might even have replica ones ready in time for the start of next season.
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I love Adidas kits. And would love Adidas to make ours. Just can't see them interested in us.
Well they do Albions?
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Exactly. Why do they need another second rate midlands club? *wink*
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Given the current state of affairs who cares which factory in the far east makes the shirts?
Is the correct answer. Whoever supplies our kit, ultimately all they are doing is tempting the gullible to part with £50 for a couple of square metres of cheap polyester sewn together in a Far East sweat shop at a cost to them of tuppence ha'penny... and then make some design alterations and do in all over again in 12 months time.
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Exactly. Why do they need another second rate midlands club? *wink*
They do Stoke, too!
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Well then, they certainly don't need a third ha!
Or are there anymore?
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It was a toss up between UnderArmour and Nike a few years ago, and the club went with Nike. Macron will b hard to get hold of unless you buy it through the club, as they dont supply any of the big sports stores
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Well then, they certainly don't need a third ha!
Or are there anymore?
Derby
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Hull, I know they are not Midlands but they fulfill the criteria of being shite.
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If we could get the 1980-81 shirt replicated to modern day then I'd be all up for switching back to Umbro. In fact it would probably be the only shirt any of us would need to buy...perhaps thats why they keep selling crap shirts because we'd never buy another one if they released a brilliant one! :D
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Can't say that I'm fussed who makes it. As long as it doesn't tinker with the traditional components of a claret body and blue arms then it doesn't matter whose logo is on it.
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Nike don't make good kit anymore. Look at Barca as well
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It was a toss up between UnderArmour and Nike a few years ago, and the club went with Nike. Macron will b hard to get hold of unless you buy it through the club, as they dont supply any of the big sports stores
There was - & maybe still is - a Macron dealer on Planetary Road, Wednesfield doing identi-kits, so we wouldn't have much og a problem.
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Mat Kendick is talking of Nike deal being replaced by one with Macron, can't say I've ever heard of them, is that the Kumar brothers firm?
I haven't bought a Villa shirt in donkeys years but its seems to be slightly depressing that another of the bright shiny new Villa things is coming to an end. From Nike to Macron, from MON to McLeish, from spending 40m a season to free transfers.
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Macron make shoddy looking.championship shirts.
I never buy them anyway, but this is another indication of us going in entirely the wrong direction
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This is like the mid eighties again with Henson, oh dear.
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Macron are crap.
We need to stay with Nike.
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We will go to the highest bidder and if that is Macron, it will be. Not great but it is about the cash! Still the Qataris can can it when they take over!
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This is next years away shirt - my mate broke into the crate and took a picture
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3686/internazionaleawaykit08.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/internazionaleawaykit08.jpg/)
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Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.
To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
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Dear oh dear. From Nike to Makron, what a come down. Lerner's downgrading of the club continues.
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(http://images.sportsdirect.com/images/products/37017109_l.jpg)
Meh.
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I've said this before, I'll say it again. The only important thing on a Villa shirt is the Villa badge. If you're a fan who can be persuaded to part with the thick end of £50 every 12 months for a piece of polyester that some far eastern sweatshop will have knocked up for £2.50, you'll continue to do so regardless of which brand logo is stitched on the other side of the chest.
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I've said this before, I'll say it again. The only important thing on a Villa shirt is the Villa badge. If you're a fan who can be persuaded to part with the thick end of £50 every 12 months for a piece of polyester that some far eastern sweatshop will have knocked up for £2.50, you'll continue to do so regardless of which brand logo is stitched on the other side of the chest.
You don't want to stick the Villa badge on any old rag though. The club has standards you know. Makron - good God! :-(
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Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.
To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
This.
The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.
No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.
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Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.
To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
This.
The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.
No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.
All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market.
'Proud Future', my arse.
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Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.
To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
This.
The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.
No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.
All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market.
'Proud Future', my arse.
And being given a blatant rip-off of a French team's shirt from last year is a better alternative is it?
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Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.
To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
This.
The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.
No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.
All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market.
'Proud Future', my arse.
And being given a blatant rip-off of a French team's shirt from last year is a better alternative is it?
It is actually. All kit manufacturers have templates which they tweak here and there, and Nike are no different. I couldn't give a damn that some obscure French team wore a similar kit, but I did care that we played in a kit that was manufactured by a firm who supply some of the best clubs in the world. Now we've been downgraded to wear kits from a shoddy looking company who create kits for lower league clubs who look like they bought their shirts off the shelves at Sports Direct. That's a big come down no matter how you try and dress it up.
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I can't believe that people would happily stay with Nike because it's Nike. Every kit they've made us has been badmouthed on here, which is fair enough - but when you consider they fucked up making a kit on time, didn't even bother producing 'keeper shirts for us to buy, and haven't done ANYTHING original for us.. it's a fucking joke.
Nike have mistreated OUR CLUB. If Macron are willing to treat us better, and actually put some work into our partnership we should be completely behind this deal. I don't care if previous kits have looked tacky, they're a company on the rise in the sport, and are trying to find better teams to work with - like us.
I'd rather have a company who is proud of working with us and treats us right, than a company who can't even bothered to get us original shirts, on time, and brought out properly.
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Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.
To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
This.
The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.
No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.
All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market.
'Proud Future', my arse.
And being given a blatant rip-off of a French team's shirt from last year is a better alternative is it?
It is actually. All kit manufacturers have templates which they tweak here and there, and Nike are no different. I couldn't give a damn that some obscure French team wore a similar kit, but I did care that we played in a kit that was manufactured by a firm who supply some of the best clubs in the world. Now we've been downgraded to wear kits from a shoddy looking company who create kits for lower league clubs who look like they bought their shirts off the shelves at Sports Direct. That's a big come down no matter how you try and dress it up.
And the fact Nike decided we weren't important enough to get our kits out on time? Or that THEY downgraded what they'd make for us in terms of training gear AND replica kits?
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I can't believe that people would happily stay with Nike because it's Nike. Every kit they've made us has been badmouthed on here, which is fair enough - but when you consider they fucked up making a kit on time, didn't even bother producing 'keeper shirts for us to buy, and haven't done ANYTHING original for us.. it's a fucking joke.
Nike have mistreated OUR CLUB. If Macron are willing to treat us better, and actually put some work into our partnership we should be completely behind this deal. I don't care if previous kits have looked tacky, they're a company on the rise in the sport, and are trying to find better teams to work with - like us.
I'd rather have a company who is proud of working with us and treats us right, than a company who can't even bothered to get us original shirts, on time, and brought out properly.
Take a look at some of the tacky, gaudy kits they've produced for other clubs and then come back and tell us you're looking forward to seeing them produce an Aston Villa kit.
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I already have. I'd still take them over Nike.
Are they my first choice? No, they're not. But I'd take them over Nike every time.
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Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.
To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
This.
The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.
No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.
All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market.
'Proud Future', my arse.
And being given a blatant rip-off of a French team's shirt from last year is a better alternative is it?
It is actually. All kit manufacturers have templates which they tweak here and there, and Nike are no different. I couldn't give a damn that some obscure French team wore a similar kit, but I did care that we played in a kit that was manufactured by a firm who supply some of the best clubs in the world. Now we've been downgraded to wear kits from a shoddy looking company who create kits for lower league clubs who look like they bought their shirts off the shelves at Sports Direct. That's a big come down no matter how you try and dress it up.
And the fact Nike decided we weren't important enough to get our kits out on time? Or that THEY downgraded what they'd make for us in terms of training gear AND replica kits?
Honestly, if you think Nike downgraded us when it came to kits and training wear wait till you see some of the abominations Makron have produced over the years. Some of their stuff looks like someone threw up them.
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I already have. I'd still take them over Nike.
Are they my first choice? No, they're not. But I'd take them over Nike every time.
Well all I can say then is that you must be easily pleased. I want our club be better. I don't want our kits supplied by a firm who Sunday league football teams would turn their noses up to them.
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Couldn't care who it is.
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Couldn't care who it is.
Why click on the thread then?
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Apart from this one (http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01016/john_carew_1016340c.jpg), I haven't been impressed with any of Nike's efforts. I wouldn't buy a replica shirt these days anyway though, it doesn't matter who supplies it.
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If you go into Sports World in Birmingham City Centre you will see loads of Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea shirts - Sky 4 shirts.
But you will also see Villa shirts.
You won't see any Birmingham City shirts in there even though it is Birmingham City Centre.
Do we really want that to happen to us?
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Adidas please
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Adidas please
For a club of Villa's size you'd have thought we'd go for someone like this but Lerner's continuing downgrading of the club even stretches to who manufactures the kit. It's Macron, not Adidas. A firm that makes kits for cheap and cheerful lower league clubs.
Pathetic.
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The more I think of it, the more I think Randy is thick as fuck.
You sir, are one ignorant individual.
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mind , I quite like Napoli's away kit
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I've just looked at some of the clubs currently in the Macron stable.
They supply quite a few mid-ranking teams in the top division in Spain, Portugal, Holland, France and their home country of Italy, but clubs with stature and potential to showcase their brand.
Given that, linking with a mid-ranking team in the Premier League like Villa makes sense.
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I don't think it matters who makes them as long as:
a) They don't fall apart and have to be recalled and
b) They're available in June or July.
For a so-called top of the range manufacturer, Nike has been incredibly shoddy over the last seasons.
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they do west hams kit .
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I've just looked at some of the clubs currently in the Macron stable.
They supply quite a few mid-ranking teams in the top division in Spain, Portugal, Holland, France and their home country of Italy, but clubs with stature and potential to showcase their brand.
Given that, linking with a mid-ranking team in the Premier League like Villa makes sense.
And it just about sums up Lerner's ambition for the club.
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Its going to be interesting what they come up with , If it is Macron.
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I'd much rather go with an up and coming company that would treat the Villans with respect and promote their Club connection with pride........instead of an outfit that doesnt even list us on their website and appears quite contemptuous.
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Macron also do our boys Under 7's kit!!
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I'd much rather go with an up and coming company that would treat the Villans with respect and promote their Club connection with pride........instead of an outfit that doesnt even list us on their website and appears quite contemptuous.
Seconded.
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
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Adidas please
For a club of Villa's size you'd have thought we'd go for someone like this but Lerner's continuing downgrading of the club even stretches to who manufactures the kit. It's Macron, not Adidas. A firm that makes kits for cheap and cheerful lower league clubs.
Pathetic.
Macron is the 2012 version of Henson - and we know what happened that year. Not happy with this .
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
Those teams are exactly the reason why Nike couldn't give the slightest fuck about Villa. As showed by the duff off-the-hanger strips of the last two seasons and the fact they couldn't be arsed to produce one of them till halfway through the season.
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
And Macron supply kits to Sheffield Utd, Millwall and Charlton.
Blimey, we're going places.
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They do West Ham's strips? Maybe we'll get lumbered with their previous season's wares. The kit-stealers being kit-stolen...who wudda thunk it?
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
Is it? Oh, little Aston Villa should be so fucking grateful that Nike has time to give us a shoddy kit, a bit late, and not a full range of the stuff, but it's okay! Because they work with United and Barca.
Macron work with Napoli and Mallorca. Napoli is a club with much higher ambitions than us right now. Should they run off to Nike because Macron dare work with smaller clubs too?
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Like I said , I always thought Napoli's kit looked good .
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Pointless argument really. There's two strong thought processes, and both make sense to certain degrees.
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No matter what anyone says, Macron are a poxy outfit who make erm....poxy outfits for poxy outfits. Cheap and very tacky.
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No matter what anyone says, Macron are a poxy outfit who make erm....poxy outfits for poxy outfits. Cheap and very tacky.
That just about sums it up.
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And Nike are a massive franchise who make poxy outfits for a club they don't give a shit about.
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And Nike are a massive franchise who make poxy outfits for a club they don't give a shit about.
They're the best kits we've had for years. If you want to see a 'poxy' kit you'll only have to take a look at Macron' portfolio. Utter utter shit, fit for the lower leagues.
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Saunders_heroes, is it safe to say you're unimpressed by Macron?
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The best kit's we've had for years, which have either been recycled from France or a basic template that they use for Arsenal.
I've seen Macron's portfolio, at least they put work in.
I've stated, not my first choice. But I'd prefer them to Nike.
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Saunders_heroes, is it safe to say you're unimpressed by Macron?
I'm pretty sure he isn't impressed by their clients and portfolio.
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The kits in the first couple of seasons of Nike were the best we've had in years. Since then, they've been terrible. And half a season late too, as I mentioned.
The club are going to make a lot more money with a company that can be arsed to get the strip out in time. People are less inclined to wear t-shirt and/or shorts in the winter.
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Saunders_heroes, is it safe to say you're unimpressed by Macron?
Is it that obvious?
One of the things I always used to laugh at was lower league teams and their tacky kits plastered with advertising. Now it seem Lerner's trying to join in. The man has lost the plot.
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The best kit's we've had for years, which have either been recycled from France or a basic template that they use for Arsenal.
I've seen Macron's portfolio, at least they put work in.
I've stated, not my first choice. But I'd prefer them to Nike.
Well get set for kits recycled from the New Den then, 'cause that's what we're gonna get!
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The best kit's we've had for years, which have either been recycled from France or a basic template that they use for Arsenal.
I've seen Macron's portfolio, at least they put work in.
I've stated, not my first choice. But I'd prefer them to Nike.
Well get set for kits recycled from the New Den then, 'cause that's what we're gonna get!
Why do you care so much who else they provide for? And less anti-Millwall rhetoric please, I want them to win today!
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And yet Millwall, Sheffield United and Charlton Athletic are all made by Macron, none plastered with extra stupid advertising, and generally, all look good.
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The best kit's we've had for years, which have either been recycled from France or a basic template that they use for Arsenal.
I've seen Macron's portfolio, at least they put work in.
I've stated, not my first choice. But I'd prefer them to Nike.
Well get set for kits recycled from the New Den then, 'cause that's what we're gonna get!
Is it, really? 1. Millwall's kit is alright. 2. They're not Nike. They WANT our club in their portfolio. They want to work with us. They'll work to make us happy. They'll actually care.
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The best kit's we've had for years, which have either been recycled from France or a basic template that they use for Arsenal.
I've seen Macron's portfolio, at least they put work in.
I've stated, not my first choice. But I'd prefer them to Nike.
Well get set for kits recycled from the New Den then, 'cause that's what we're gonna get!
Why do you care so much who else they provide for? And less anti-Millwall rhetoric please, I want them to win today!
They're not a company that produce quality kits. That's why they produce tat for lower league clubs. The Sports Direct of kit manufacturers, and we've gone and signed up with them. Jesus wept!
Anyway, I'm off to the Villa!
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Just having seen a few kits that Macron have done, my feeling is that if you take away the often gaudy sponsor logo, the shirt itself often doesn't look too bad. And that's from someone who doesn't tend to like football kits by default.
The Napoli kit is really nice, it looks kinda... continental, for want of a better word. I quite like some of the designs that they've done for other European clubs, they're clearly not afraid to do something a little different.
http://shop.macron.com/eshop/category/Macron-SSC-Napoli.html/1/frmCatID/19287/
Mouse-over 'Football' at the top and it'll give you a list of clubs.
The thing with Nike is that we (if I'm remembering this right) were told that we would be getting custom designs, made solely for us. So the rehash of the Lens kit was hard to swallow for me. Add to that the late releases, not even displaying our shirts in their shops and website, etc. I got the impression they couldn't really give a monkeys about Aston Villa. So I'm more than willing to give Macron a chance.
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Having had a quick look through the Macron website, I think the Bologna polo shirt
http://shop.macron.com/eshop/product/Macron-All-Products-BOLOGNA-COTTON-POLO-SHIRT-1011.html/1/pid/37322/frmCatID/20395/
would actually look quite good as our away kit.
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I had a look and I reckon we'd be the biggest club they would have on their books. I imagine they would put a lot of time and effort into getting the kit just right and would get it release in time. Good news for the club.
MACRO MACRO MAN! I WANT TO BE.... A MACRO MAN!
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The stuff they make actually looks quite nice and innovative too. I imagine we'd end up with a really good original kit. A good move for the club, to be honest. I don't think we'd be their biggest club, Napoli are particularly big and are ahead of us currently, but we'd easily be one of their major clients.
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We're a bigger club than Napoli. I agree though, they are more in the ascendancy at the moment than we are. That said, we will probably shift more kits than them as Italians often buy fake kits whereas that rarely happens in the UK.
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I suppose you're right in terms of history, success, and all that. But yeah, ascendancy wise they're definitely on the up.
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If we are the biggest club , then they will be some effort into it , unlike Nike .
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Are we mediocre in everything now?
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Nike made nice trackie tops, that's about all I'll miss. The shirts weren't that special.
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Fuck me some people (or should that be one person) are right hysterical drama queens.
Nike have, by and large, done an appalling job as our kit supplier and most people on here want shot of them.
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At the end of the day, it's only sportswear. Whether it's Nike, Adidas, Macron, or Pelada, it's still a load of old polyester tat.
Hummel were hardly a major player when they started doing our kits (with the exception of the Danish national side, although they went on to do kits for Spurs and Real Madrid) yet the two they did were both classics in their own way.
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Does it really matter? If Macron want to give us more coin than someone else then surely that's what matters. People who are appalled are more concerned about other fans will say when they are wearing the kit than anything else.
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Latest recruit..Young Dylan the Villan in recent kit. Nephew.
http://vimeo.com/35052110
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Macron seem to be a company on the up. if we do go with them we'll be one of their top customers. They are Italian so i'll be prejudice ans assume they are cool and stylish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macron_(sportswear)
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At the end of the day, it's only sportswear. Whether it's Nike, Adidas, Macron, or Pelada, it's still a load of old polyester tat.
Hummel were hardly a major player when they started doing our kits (with the exception of the Danish national side, although they went on to do kits for Spurs and Real Madrid) yet the two they did were both classics in their own way.
I loved that Danish kit. Just looked too busy when they made it for us.
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Macron is for championship teams like West ham, Leeds & us!
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im sorry, macron are complete toilet. every shirt on their website is shite, I hope the villa are getting paid enough to cover the drop in sales. And I would be very worried if i was the store manager in the city centre-good luck peddling that crap....
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Interesting choice. A little Italian style no bad thing - better than a second rate American shysters should not be difficult. Why though with the potential financial clout that a club like Villa can wield we cannot find a British and preferably local company to produce kit I fail to understand. I would not appreciate us funding the global enterprises of Adidas or Puma either for the same reason - none of them are capable of producing associated ranges of leisurewear with any style and so are wasting the opportunity of the added branding power. Nike - the alleged 'market leaders' have been shoddy and disappointing, although the shirts designs have all been acceptable (see 2001-2 or 1999-2000 if you dont know what I mean). If we end up with something like Macron are supplying AZ Alkmaar with it might be good...
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Several pages of Macron-bashing in one afternoon... have the Club announced that they will be providing our kit next season? Or is this all speculation based upon rumours and hearsay?
Whoever makes it, it'll be claret and blue and it'll have a Villa badge on it. If you don't like it, don't buy a replica. If you have kids, they'll probably want one no matter who makes it. It's up to you whether you use your prejudice against a company that as yet have NO CONNECTION with the Club, and even if they subsequently do, surely they're entitled to unveil their designs before we lay into them?
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It's definitely Macron Rich.
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Interesting choice. A little Italian style no bad thing - better than a second rate American shysters should not be difficult. Why though with the potential financial clout that a club like Villa can wield we cannot find a British and preferably local company to produce kit I fail to understand. I would not appreciate us funding the global enterprises of Adidas or Puma either for the same reason - none of them are capable of producing associated ranges of leisurewear with any style and so are wasting the opportunity of the added branding power.
I think you're missing the point - our financial clout has nothing to do with it. The manufacturer pays us to make the shirts. I think you'll be very lucky to find a local company willing to cough up the millions we'll get from this deal.
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I think they're a good choice to be honest. My old rugby club got our kit from them, they were very willing to listen to requirements (even for smallish sides on low budgets) and the kits provided were well made and exactly as ordered. If you then look on their site the basic shirt design and material seems to be the same between sports so I'd suggest they use the same equipment and fundamental design philosophy just making minor functional changes changes for specific sports. After the poor quality, paper thin, shirts of the last few years I like the idea of a sturdy well made kit that will last well.
If you look through the kits they make and look at the 'traditional' kits for those sides you can see that in general they've realised that the main theme of the shirt has to be set by the club, they just add small flourishes to keep things fresh (go on their site and look at the Monaco kit for a good example).
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Interesting choice. A little Italian style no bad thing - better than a second rate American shysters should not be difficult. Why though with the potential financial clout that a club like Villa can wield we cannot find a British and preferably local company to produce kit I fail to understand. I would not appreciate us funding the global enterprises of Adidas or Puma either for the same reason - none of them are capable of producing associated ranges of leisurewear with any style and so are wasting the opportunity of the added branding power. Nike - the alleged 'market leaders' have been shoddy and disappointing, although the shirts designs have all been acceptable (see 2001-2 or 1999-2000 if you dont know what I mean). If we end up with something like Macron are supplying AZ Alkmaar with it might be good...
It's nothing to do with Villa. The suppliers pay Villa to supply kit and split the money. Apparently we sell @ 100,000 shirts a season. Liverpool get paid around 25 million a season. As I said before Macron wii have offered the most cash and thus won the deal.
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It's definitely Macron Rich.
Where has this been announced? Any links?
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I suppose you're right in terms of history, success, and all that. But yeah, ascendancy wise they're definitely on the up.
Napoli have a very large fanbase though - they are like the Newcastle of Italy.
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
Is it? Oh, little Aston Villa should be so fucking grateful that Nike has time to give us a shoddy kit, a bit late, and not a full range of the stuff, but it's okay! Because they work with United and Barca.
Macron work with Napoli and Mallorca. Napoli is a club with much higher ambitions than us right now. Should they run off to Nike because Macron dare work with smaller clubs too?
It's better than having Macron.
Seriously who has ever heard of Macron?
Everyone has heard of Nike.
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
Is it? Oh, little Aston Villa should be so fucking grateful that Nike has time to give us a shoddy kit, a bit late, and not a full range of the stuff, but it's okay! Because they work with United and Barca.
Macron work with Napoli and Mallorca. Napoli is a club with much higher ambitions than us right now. Should they run off to Nike because Macron dare work with smaller clubs too?
It's better than having Macron.
Seriously who has ever heard of Macron?
Everyone has heard of Nike.
so what? If the product is naff then what does it matter? You're being completed swayed by little swoosh in the corner of the kit. It means nothing at all if the quality isn't there. Honestly, what has Nike done for us that Macron can't?
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A Nike kit won't win us anymore matches than a Macron one. Could be worse, could be Xtep......
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
Is it? Oh, little Aston Villa should be so fucking grateful that Nike has time to give us a shoddy kit, a bit late, and not a full range of the stuff, but it's okay! Because they work with United and Barca.
Macron work with Napoli and Mallorca. Napoli is a club with much higher ambitions than us right now. Should they run off to Nike because Macron dare work with smaller clubs too?
It's better than having Macron.
Seriously who has ever heard of Macron?
Everyone has heard of Nike.
so what? If the product is naff then what does it matter? You're being completed swayed by little swoosh in the corner of the kit. It means nothing at all if the quality isn't there. Honestly, what has Nike done for us that Macron can't?
Having Nike as kit manufacturer reflects very well on your club - big clubs have big brands such as Nike and Adidas.
Having Macron reflects very badly on your club - crappy kit manufacturer = small/unimportant club.
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Mmmmm, you refer to 'your' club twice. What do you think of Xtep?
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how does having Nike reflect well on the club? From what standpoint? Villa fans will buy Villa kits yet our kit sales are down because the team isn't doing well. Having a Nike swoosh on it won't make a difference to kit sales if the team isn't doing well. Just like if you were a Napoli fan you'd buy a Macron kit because the team is in the CL.
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Let's no kid ourselves - being associated with a global brand is good PR and gives us kudos. The opposite is also true and we all know it. We all laughed at Blues's Xtep deal and we are descending down that road.
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Let's no kid ourselves - being associated with a global brand is good PR and gives us kudos. The opposite is also true and we all know it. We all laughed at Blues's Xtep deal and we are descending down that road.
I'm not dismissing brand equity but it's only as valuable as the commodity that carries it. It Blues get promotion and get into Europe as an example (prays that it doesn't happen), Xtep or anyone else won't matter because fans will buy merchandise. The relationship with Macron is more a reflection of our brand power today than theirs.
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I find it funny that Nike are moaning we don't make them enough money when it is down to them mostly. How many times have have they delayed our kit until after the lucrative Summer holiday period. Then they made them so shoddy that they had to remake them. And also with their insistence of not making specific ladies tops. All the above meant less sales then they would have got.
As for Macron, so what, the only worry we should have is they think they already make a Claret and Blue English top and decide to just make one for the both of us.
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Macron is international
Macron is a European company. The headquarters are in Bologna, Italy, and the production facility is in Tianjin, China. Macron employs 75 people.
Macron goes for sport
Macron is responsible for everything connected with its own brand name: from fabrics production to retailing. The Macron collection features 400 items. 8,000 teams wear Macron clothing. Macron has a network of over 700 specialist outlets in the territory.
http://en.macron.com/Company/Jobs/Work-for-Macron_old
Genting is Chinese. Villa players are on the sides of Buses in HK and Shanghai. The stuff is made in Tianjin, a few miles from Beijing. reciprocal deal perhaps? We'll have a Chinese player in team next. Wait and see.
2bn potential fanbase..what percentage do you need to swamp local followers? 1%?
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how does having Nike reflect well on the club? From what standpoint? Villa fans will buy Villa kits yet our kit sales are down because the team isn't doing well. Having a Nike swoosh on it won't make a difference to kit sales if the team isn't doing well. Just like if you were a Napoli fan you'd buy a Macron kit because the team is in the CL.
I strongly disagree. I would suggest that a lot of ppl buy Villa kits and merchandise because of it being Nike branded, and this would be even more so for the kids and teenagers. Having a brand like Nike or adidas can make the difference between someone buying or not buying. Sure merchandise sales are also influenced by design and performance on the pitch, but if the kit is made by Macron then dont be surprised if kit and merchandise sales fall tragestically. I tend to prefer merchandise these days but I certainly wont be buying anything made by Macron.
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Let's no kid ourselves - being associated with a global brand is good PR and gives us kudos. The opposite is also true and we all know it. We all laughed at Blues's Xtep deal and we are descending down that road.
Hardly the same boat. Look on the Xtep website and try to find all the teams they supply kits to. The only reason Xtep was chosen is because the Blose Dodgy Hong Kong Chairman probably took some back handers from a mate in the Hong Kong business scene. In fact this season, Xtep have just announced their second ever (I think) Football shirt deal outside of the far east with Villareal.
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It matters not a jot who makes our shirts as long as they look decent. The same people at our club will give a design a yay or nay whether it be Nike or Macron who supply the design.
The benefits of being "associated" with Nike mean tosh as we are only a little fish to them and I doubt if they loose too much sleep when they don't get our kit out till Christmas.
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There's a huge amount of Macron bashing going on here. How would what appears to be an up-and-coming global sportwear company get the exposure they need without getting clubs with a better image? With all respect, they're not going to get the Manure or Liverpool contracts as they sign 10 year deals with their manufacturers.
What this offers us if handled correctly is a design hopefully as a result of careful consulation with what the fans want. It's in Macron's interests to do so. When you enter a market, you enter at a level where you can prove your performance & supply chain sustainability, so go ahead & practice on a WHU, Sheffield United...
We were one the first English teams to have Le Coq, Henson, Hummel, Diadora...indeed, I don't recall a Diadora backlash when this is such a 'Sports Direct' style brand.
Where else could be realistically go? The US link would suggest Reebok, but if Bolton's current Lego design is anything to go by, this'd be best avoided. That leaves your Kappa, Lotto, Admiral, back to Umbro...hardly exciting?
Playing devils advocate, if were going to play the Xtep card, the Malaysian national side play in Nike!
http://www.uksoccershop.com/p-14166/2011-12-Malaysia-Nike-Asian-Cup-Home-Shirt.html
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If Macron come up with something like a retro 1976-81 home shirt I doubt there will be too many people moaning...then again there probably will be one of two on here who still won't be happy.
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The more I think of it, the more I think Randy is thick as fuck.
Yeah, funnily enough I was thinking that myself... oh no, sorry... I was actually thinking about you.
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The more I think of it, the more I think Randy is thick as fuck.
Yeah, funnily enough I was thinking that myself... oh no, sorry... I was actually thinking about you.
A tad harsh?!?
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Bukta make decent kits.
I'll get me coat !!
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Interesting choice. A little Italian style no bad thing - better than a second rate American shysters should not be difficult. Why though with the potential financial clout that a club like Villa can wield we cannot find a British and preferably local company to produce kit I fail to understand. I would not appreciate us funding the global enterprises of Adidas or Puma either for the same reason - none of them are capable of producing associated ranges of leisurewear with any style and so are wasting the opportunity of the added branding power. Nike - the alleged 'market leaders' have been shoddy and disappointing, although the shirts designs have all been acceptable (see 2001-2 or 1999-2000 if you dont know what I mean). If we end up with something like Macron are supplying AZ Alkmaar with it might be good...
It's nothing to do with Villa. The suppliers pay Villa to supply kit and split the money. Apparently we sell @ 100,000 shirts a season. Liverpool get paid around 25 million a season. As I said before Macron wii have offered the most cash and thus won the deal.
In order to get paid £25M they would have to sell a lot of shirts - 500,000 @£45 = £25M gross. I would estimate that Villa's kit supplier make around £1M a year from us which is a significant amount of money even today and in the current climate for a clothing manufacturer is not insignificant.
As for Nike as far as I can tell the only people who STILL think they are cool are the ones wearing trousers without a belt around their arse cheeks who think selling drugs carrying guns and coming straight outta compton is big and clever. The only thing thing that 'suck' worse than American culture is large American corporations.
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Bukta make decent kits.
I'll get me coat !!
Hmmm. The stylish 1957 Cup Final shirt was made by Bukta - some more of that please!
Or were you joking?
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I was joking, I didn't know that.
Actually, I'd love a Villa kit by Adidas, blue sleeves with 3 claret stripes.
The info. re. kicking Nike into touch is the best news all fkin season !!
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I find it hard to believe Adidas pay Liverpool £25m a season.
Some wonky maths there, I suspect.
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The £25million a season deal starts next season and is with Warrior Sports (who?)
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But they aren't Nike are they so Liverpool must be small time.
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The £25million a season deal starts next season and is with Warrior Sports (who?)
So lpool won't be with addi next year?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1379466/Liverpools-mammoth-25m-year-Warrior-kit-deal-rewrites-record-books.html
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The Bologna shirt on the Macron website is very nice indeed.
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Bologna are my Italian team. Forza Rossibleu.
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Just buy the retro shirts, they are cheaper, they last longer and they never go out of fashion!
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Just buy the retro shirts, they are cheaper, they last longer and they never go out of fashion!
This.
They also look infinitely better. Except the 1993-95 mess that the club have released recently, obviously.
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Disregard.
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
Is it? Oh, little Aston Villa should be so fucking grateful that Nike has time to give us a shoddy kit, a bit late, and not a full range of the stuff, but it's okay! Because they work with United and Barca.
Macron work with Napoli and Mallorca. Napoli is a club with much higher ambitions than us right now. Should they run off to Nike because Macron dare work with smaller clubs too?
It's better than having Macron.
Seriously who has ever heard of Macron?
Everyone has heard of Nike.
so what? If the product is naff then what does it matter? You're being completed swayed by little swoosh in the corner of the kit. It means nothing at all if the quality isn't there. Honestly, what has Nike done for us that Macron can't?
Having Nike as kit manufacturer reflects very well on your club - big clubs have big brands such as Nike and Adidas.
Having Macron reflects very badly on your club - crappy kit manufacturer = small/unimportant club.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nike_sponsorships#Association_Football
Have a look at some of the clubs on that list. Not exclusively a brand for the giants of world football, are they?
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Why people hold such reverence with our club linked to such an organization is beyond me. Do you really believe all the adverts, the hype surrounding Nike? Why the need to be associated with the biggest brand in sport? What hold does this tic have over people?
Nike screwed up with their supply to us a few seasons ago, enough reason in itself for us to pull out of a deal with their failure to meet our demands and now Nike feel we don't fit with their business model? Well, here's news, we don't. We don't sell as many shirts as other teams, we are therefore not viewed in the same light as Man U and others who they will bend over backwards to fulfill their needs at the expense of ours. So Nike, we'll take our business elsewhere if you don't mind so shove your tic..
I'm glad we are now with some unknown manufacturer, maybe they will treat us with a bit more respect and provide a design we can be truly proud off.
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I don't see the big deal with who ever it is.
I liked Macron West Ham kit from last year
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2010/8/25/1282749150351/Scott-Parker-006.jpg)
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Yep, that's a nice kit! Proper claret & blue. Can we have a proper Villa badge too? With a claret lion please?
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It's no surprise that we are no longer attractive to Nike. Their business model relies upon and has always been to be associated with the very best and coolest sports men, women and teams in the world, so that association will transfer to the fan who buys the kit who will then feel cool by wearing the kit. The reality is that Aston Villa no longer occupies that position. We no longer fit their model and in reality, haven't done so for the last two seasons.
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I just went on Macron's site and their kits are not that nice to be honest. They make napoli's kit which doesn't look that nice at all. Puma would be a good option or even umbro i guess.
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Look at the teams who have Nike kits:
Clubs - Arsenal, Man United, Barcelona, Juventus, Inter Milan
National teams - Brazil, France, Holland, Portugal, Serbia, USA, Korea, Australia
It is good for Aston Villa to be associated with those teams.
Is it? Oh, little Aston Villa should be so fucking grateful that Nike has time to give us a shoddy kit, a bit late, and not a full range of the stuff, but it's okay! Because they work with United and Barca.
Macron work with Napoli and Mallorca. Napoli is a club with much higher ambitions than us right now. Should they run off to Nike because Macron dare work with smaller clubs too?
It's better than having Macron.
Seriously who has ever heard of Macron?
Everyone has heard of Nike.
so what? If the product is naff then what does it matter? You're being completed swayed by little swoosh in the corner of the kit. It means nothing at all if the quality isn't there. Honestly, what has Nike done for us that Macron can't?
Having Nike as kit manufacturer reflects very well on your club - big clubs have big brands such as Nike and Adidas.
Having Macron reflects very badly on your club - crappy kit manufacturer = small/unimportant club.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nike_sponsorships#Association_Football
Have a look at some of the clubs on that list. Not exclusively a brand for the giants of world football, are they?
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Say it isn't so! Nike make kits for small teams? Impossible! They only work with the football elite. I mean, so what if they couldn't care less about our club? They're Nike!
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It's no surprise that we are no longer attractive to Nike. Their business model relies upon and has always been to be associated with the very best and coolest sports men, women and teams in the world, so that association will transfer to the fan who buys the kit who will then feel cool by wearing the kit. The reality is that Aston Villa no longer occupies that position. We no longer fit their model and in reality, haven't done so for the last two seasons.
Aha! now I understand a business model that relies upon and has always assumed its customers are morons... explains everything.
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It's no surprise that we are no longer attractive to Nike. Their business model relies upon and has always been to be associated with the very best and coolest sports men, women and teams in the world, so that association will transfer to the fan who buys the kit who will then feel cool by wearing the kit. The reality is that Aston Villa no longer occupies that position. We no longer fit their model and in reality, haven't done so for the last two seasons.
Aha! now I understand a business model that relies upon and has always assumed its customers are morons... explains everything.
Morons is a bit strong. Maybe, gullible, easily lead, seduced by subliminal messages, lovers of the Brazil team, sports fashion victims, wannabees, suckers.
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Just had a look at the team photo from Rotterdam, I think most of the team wore Nike boots at a time
when Nike were a new supplier to the football market trying to get exposure, where addidas & Puma were the established brands.
A pity that a better relationship didnt develop over the years, however with regard to the next
kit supplier, imagine those skintight Kappa shirts on some of our lot.
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Nike have a long list of clubs wearing their kits, some are very small clubs.
I think they just take the 'big' clubs seriously and we're probably dealt with by an Account Executive ( like Kiddy Harriers) rather than a Nike board member.
It's just the way it is at the moment.
First step - being dumped.
Second step - replace with less arrogant company who deal with us properly and pay us more money or give better cost per shirt to the club.
With Liverpool dropping Adidas, surely we can replace a great deal of that lost revenue?
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Just had a look at the team photo from Rotterdam, I think most of the team wore Nike boots at a time
when Nike were a new supplier to the football market trying to get exposure, where addidas & Puma were the established brands.
A pity that a better relationship didnt develop over the years, however with regard to the next
kit supplier, imagine those skintight Kappa shirts on some of our lot.
A few years ago, someone on here posted a scan of a magnificent Nike advert from 1981/2, which (memory going fuzzy now) had the Villa team, and the slogan "Villa Park, Birmingham" on it.
I took a copy of it and squirrelled it away somewhere, but have lost it. Would love to see it again.
EDIT - actually, think it may have been "Villa Park, England".
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It's no surprise that we are no longer attractive to Nike. Their business model relies upon and has always been to be associated with the very best and coolest sports men, women and teams in the world, so that association will transfer to the fan who buys the kit who will then feel cool by wearing the kit. The reality is that Aston Villa no longer occupies that position. We no longer fit their model and in reality, haven't done so for the last two seasons.
Didn't Walsall recently have a Nike kit? And don't Crystal Palace currently?
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It's no surprise that we are no longer attractive to Nike. Their business model relies upon and has always been to be associated with the very best and coolest sports men, women and teams in the world, so that association will transfer to the fan who buys the kit who will then feel cool by wearing the kit. The reality is that Aston Villa no longer occupies that position. We no longer fit their model and in reality, haven't done so for the last two seasons.
Didn't Walsall recently have a Nike kit? And don't Crystal Palace currently?
They pay Nike for their kits, in the way a sunday league side would do so - that's the difference.
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This was the only kit Nike have done that I like
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/1/10/1263119880095/Moustapha-Salifou-001.jpg)
Sali Salifou!!!
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I have always liked Nike for sportswear, (boots, trainers, tracksuits etc) and when Villa announced the deal with nike I was over the moon. A proper massive brand manufacturing our shirts was great. I love the shirt above that Salifou is wearing, I have it in long sleeves and is one of the best shirts we have ever had imo.
I don't wear/buy replica shirts nowadays, and the Macron deal wont change that. I consider myself to be quite brand aware whan it comes to clothing, so when somebody said we were having the shirts made by Macron, my immediate response was 'Who? Never heard of them.'
That said, the brand of the kit shouldn't mean a thing football wise
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That shirt was just superb. The simplicity of it, the sponsor, everything about it oozed class.
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That shirt was just superb. The simplicity of it, the sponsor, everything about it oozed class.
Oozed class for sure! shame we couldnt say the same about the player in the pitcure!
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That was the best kit Nike ever made for us. Not just the design, but the quality of the material was very good indeed. Their efforts in recent years has been way, way below that. The team that played in that kit wasn't bad either.
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That shirt was just superb. The simplicity of it, the sponsor, everything about it oozed class.
Very true. That's the only shirt I've bought in the last 15 years. I hardly wear it, certainly not to the match (whether any bloke aged 18 or over should wear replica kits is another argument, but they shouldn't really). However I just felt like owning that one as I feel it will become iconic in future due to, as you say, its simplicity and the sponsor mainly.
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Bologna
AZ Alkmar
Boavista
Napoli
FC Lorient
AC Monaco
They aren't setting the world alight for sure but neither are they rubbish brands.
I reckon a deal with Macron could be a good way to go, they will pull out all of the stops to be kit manufacturer for a Premier League team (let's hope) and we'll have an attentive company on our hands. Wouldn't it be nice to be a priority for a partner rather than an irritation?
Villa unfortunately aren't seen as being a cool club or a club that plays great football, nobody else is interested in following us and though it was a good try by the club the NIKE deal didn't help.
We looked like the poor relation in comparison to Barcelona, Man Utd and Arsenal, now we've a chance to be brand leader.
In all reality, the brand of shirt won't help or hinder kit sales amongst our fans by enough to make a difference.
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Not particularly fussed about who makes our kit.
I do remember the initial promo stuff Nike - The "We start today" (or was it tomorrow?) slogan with the back of the shirt on Gabby or Barry and the Holte End with some serious airbrushing/lense flare action.
As a signal of intent them were heady days on reflection.
It was a time when the club seemed to be good at PR.
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Not particularly fussed about who makes our kit.
I do remember the initial promo stuff Nike - The "We start today" (or was it tomorrow?) slogan with the back of the shirt on Gabby or Barry and the Holte End with some serious airbrushing/lense flare action.
As a signal of intent them were heady days on reflection.
It was a time when the club seemed to be good at PR.
You just feel the problems with the actual quality of the kit exemplified how Nike felt when it came to quality control, and how high up Villa are in their customer pecking order.
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Le Coq Sportif
Henson
Diadora
Hummel
Hardly the big name, leading brands of their time yet all suppliers of our kit in the past.
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Interesting report here in the Daily Mail that possibly throws some light on the way kit manufacturers think when it comes to supplying clubs' kits.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2088761/Liverpool-branded-failure-Adidas.html
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Liverpool have gone with Warrior Sports who are owned by New Balance.
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Le Coq Sportif
Henson
Diadora
Hummel
Hardly the big name, leading brands of their time yet all suppliers of our kit in the past.
It still bugs me to this day that I missed out on one of those long sleeved Hummel shirts with 'Mcgrath', 'Cowans' etc on the back. I thought they were great - think they came in pale blue or white. Have never been able to find them since on ebay etc
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It still bugs me to this day that I missed out on one of those long sleeved Hummel shirts with 'Mcgrath', 'Cowans' etc on the back. I thought they were great - think they came in pale blue or white. Have never been able to find them since on ebay etc
I've got one with Withe on the back.
Must've shrunk in the wash though because it's a bit of a tight fit now
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Le Coq Sportif
Henson
Diadora
Hummel
Hardly the big name, leading brands of their time yet all suppliers of our kit in the past.
Le Cog Sportif made the Argentina 1986 shirt, Diadora made the Italian national shirts for years.
We should take Umbro again and the club can start re-issuing all the old 70s gear. It would fly off the shelves.
I dread to think what shiny nylon shit Macron will be dreaming up for us.
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Anyone know who makes the Cleveland Browns shirts? Do you think RL might do what Henry has done at liverpool and go for a manufacturer of their American football team?
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Anyone know who makes the Cleveland Browns shirts? Do you think RL might do what Henry has done at liverpool and go for a manufacturer of their American football team?
I thought Reebok made all the NFL shirts.
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Anyone know who makes the Cleveland Browns shirts? Do you think RL might do what Henry has done at liverpool and go for a manufacturer of their American football team?
Reebok make the Cleveland Browns kit, who are a subsiduary of Adidas - surprising then we got lumbered with Nike. Given what they have said about Liverpool don't think we'll be consorting with them any time soon, no offence to 'Eck or the current squad intended.
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Why would Liverpool go to Warrior Sports? THEY DON'T MAKE MAN UTD OR ARSENAL KITS. They must be shit.
On the Macron note; the FC Lorient kits (all 3) are fantastic.
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Why would Liverpool go to Warrior Sports? THEY DON'T MAKE MAN UTD OR ARSENAL KITS. They must be shit.
On the Macron note; the FC Lorient kits (all 3) are fantastic.
I think Liverpool have gone to Warrior because they have links to John Henry's Red Sox and are Boston based. It's interesting that a giant of the game (Adidas) view Liverpool's market value to be far lower than Warrior does. I smell a bit of Man City-style, FFP-busting, dodgy dealing going on here!
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Why would Liverpool go to Warrior Sports? THEY DON'T MAKE MAN UTD OR ARSENAL KITS. They must be shit.
On the Macron note; the FC Lorient kits (all 3) are fantastic.
I think Liverpool have gone to Warrior because they have links to John Henry's Red Sox and are Boston based. It's interesting that a giant of the game (Adidas) view Liverpool's market value to be far lower than Warrior does. I smell a bit of Man City-style, FFP-busting, dodgy dealing going on here!
I thought this when I read about their new kit manufacturer. Maybe we should tyr and adopted a similar approach?
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Liverpool's poor showing has cost them kit deal, claims Adidas chief (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/18/liverpool-adidas-kit-deal)
Herbert Hainer, the chief executive of Adidas, has claimed that Liverpool's performances on the pitch – including their failure to qualify for European football for the first time in 12 seasons last year – and a difference of opinion over the club's commercial worth have seen the German kit supplier withdraw from negotiations for a new deal.
Liverpool are coming to the end of a six-year, £12m-a-season arrangement with Adidas and had opened talks with a view to renewing it, but Hainer is insistent that the Merseyside club have priced themselves out of the market.
"The gap between their performance on the field and what the number should be is not in balance," Hainer told Bloomberg. "Then we said: 'OK we will not do it'. That's the end of the story. It all depends on the success and the effort and the popularity, the exposure on TV, revenue you can generate by merchandising.
"This all has to be brought in line between what you offer and what you get. We thought that what Liverpool were asking and what they were delivering was not in the right balance."
Liverpool have expressed dismay at the comments and are reported to have reached an agreement with the US brand, Warrior Sports, said to be worth £25m a year – trumping Manchester United's contract with Nike, which ploughs around £23.5m into Old Trafford every season. They also claimed that Adidas were unable to grasp the global appeal of Liverpool, regardless of the club's qualification for European competition or not.
Their partnership with Adidas started in the 1985‑86 season and after a 10-year hiatus with Reebok, was revived in 2006.
Sales of the Liverpool's replica shirts are claimed to reach nearly 900,000 a year, making it the fourth-highest selling kit in the world behind Manchester United, Barcelona and Real Madrid.
Warrior Sports' parent company, New Balance, won the contract to become the kit supplier to the Boston Red Sox in April 2011, the baseball club owned by Fenway Sports Group – the same organisation now in charge at Anfield.
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Liverpool signs new kit deal with US firm Warrior (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16627867)
Liverpool has signed a six-year deal with US sports firm Warrior Sports to make the Anfield club's kit from June.
The company, owned by New Balance, replace German giants Adidas as the maker of the Premier League team's home, away and third kits.
Warrior, associated with ice hockey and lacrosse in the US, will also make the club's training kit.
It comes after Spurs said last year that another US firm, Under Armour, would make its kit from 2012/13.
Liverpool has not announced the value of the deal, but some reports have put it at £25m a year.
The club's shirt is one of the top selling replica shirts in the world.
Richard Wright, general manager of Boston-based Warrior, said: "We are here to shake up the world of football".
Liverpool, winners of five European Cups, sit seventh in the Premier League and are in the semi-final of the League Cup.
They face Bolton Wanderers in the Premier League on Saturday.
"This is another landmark deal for Liverpool Football Club and once again shows the value of the club's brand globally," said Ian Ayre, the club's managing director.
Adidas first made Liverpool's kit between 1985 and 1996, and then from 2006 until the present.
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Anyone know who makes the Cleveland Browns shirts? Do you think RL might do what Henry has done at liverpool and go for a manufacturer of their American football team?
I thought Reebok made all the NFL shirts.
NIKE will be making all NFL uniforms at the beginning of next season.
Please god, don't let us go with Macron.
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The Weymouth FC Macron shirt 9Claret & Blue) looks quite nice
http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg (http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg)
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Le Coq Sportif
Henson
Diadora
Hummel
Hardly the big name, leading brands of their time yet all suppliers of our kit in the past.
It still bugs me to this day that I missed out on one of those long sleeved Hummel shirts with 'Mcgrath', 'Cowans' etc on the back. I thought they were great - think they came in pale blue or white. Have never been able to find them since on ebay etc
I just got a brand new one of each from eBay. 20 quid.
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Why would Liverpool go to Warrior Sports? THEY DON'T MAKE MAN UTD OR ARSENAL KITS. They must be shit.
On the Macron note; the FC Lorient kits (all 3) are fantastic.
I think Liverpool have gone to Warrior because they have links to John Henry's Red Sox and are Boston based. It's interesting that a giant of the game (Adidas) view Liverpool's market value to be far lower than Warrior does. I smell a bit of Man City-style, FFP-busting, dodgy dealing going on here!
Probably more the case that as a new entrant in to the football merchandising arena, Liverpool are worth more to Warrior than they are to adidas who have already built up the pedigree. It seems more like an aggressive marketing strategy by Warrior than a dodgy deal to get around FFP rules.
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The Weymouth FC Macron shirt 9Claret & Blue) looks quite nice
http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg (http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg)
Wow, I bite my tongue. Those are beautiful.
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The Weymouth FC Macron shirt 9Claret & Blue) looks quite nice
http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg (http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg)
Wow, I bite my tongue. Those are beautiful.
Nice.
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The Weymouth FC Macron shirt 9Claret & Blue) looks quite nice
http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg (http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg)
Wow, I bite my tongue. Those are beautiful.
Classy.
I want one!
(Went to Weymouth for a wedding once - does that count?)
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that is top notch. I'm not a big collar fan, and would prefer something blue up there. Just a personal thing. But it's a very nice kit nonetheless.
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Nice kit bad sponsor
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Ultimately Warrior & Liverpool are owned by the same parent company.
Let's hope Randy doesn't go out & take Primark out of administration.
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Ultimately Warrior
Isn't he a wrestler?
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(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3835/macronvillashirt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/macronvillashirt.jpg/)
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I did this mock ups last night
My Mock Ups
Collars
(https://twitpic.com/show/large/88xkrq)
(https://twitpic.com/show/large/88xkvy)
Round Neck
(https://twitpic.com/show/large/88xxgn)
(https://twitpic.com/show/large/88y056)
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The Weymouth FC Macron shirt 9Claret & Blue) looks quite nice
http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg (http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg)
I'd have a bit of that.
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Can we have Weymouths shirt please Mr Macron
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Marshall, those are really quite nice. The brand isn't the most important thing. If the kit is a good design, made of a quality material, and importantly the team does well for sustained period it will sell.
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Marshall, those are really quite nice. The brand isn't the most important thing. If the kit is a good design, made of a quality material, and importantly the team does well for sustained period it will sell.
The brand isn't important really, it's just that when Randy took over and MON was installed, having Nike as the kit provider as well seemed like we were thinking big again.
However, as long as the body is claret and the sleeves are blue, then fine.
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Marshall, those are really quite nice. The brand isn't the most important thing. If the kit is a good design, made of a quality material, and importantly the team does well for sustained period it will sell.
The brand isn't important really, it's just that when Randy took over and MON was installed, having Nike as the kit provider as well seemed like we were thinking big again.
However, as long as the body is claret and the sleeves are blue, then fine.
I don't like the busy sleeves.
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Marshall, those are really quite nice. The brand isn't the most important thing. If the kit is a good design, made of a quality material, and importantly the team does well for sustained period it will sell.
The brand isn't important really, it's just that when Randy took over and MON was installed, having Nike as the kit provider as well seemed like we were thinking big again.
However, as long as the body is claret and the sleeves are blue, then fine.
I don't like the busy sleeves.
How about Greensleeves?
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Marshall, those are really quite nice. The brand isn't the most important thing. If the kit is a good design, made of a quality material, and importantly the team does well for sustained period it will sell.
The brand isn't important really, it's just that when Randy took over and MON was installed, having Nike as the kit provider as well seemed like we were thinking big again.
However, as long as the body is claret and the sleeves are blue, then fine.
I don't like the busy sleeves.
You are Gok Wan and I claim my £5.
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(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3835/macronvillashirt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/macronvillashirt.jpg/)
I like it.
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@Hotlemeister - loving the design! looks proper nice.
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Agree look great but they will want their logo on the arm - el a Hummel, Addidas etc
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Agree look great but they will want their logo on the arm - el a Hummel, Addidas etc
and blue collar with messi's head sticking out of it
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The Weymouth FC Macron shirt 9Claret & Blue) looks quite nice
http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg (http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Weymouth_FC_Home_Shirt-1.jpg)
Wow, I bite my tongue. Those are beautiful.
Classy.
I want one!
(Went to Weymouth for a wedding once - does that count?)
Very tidy.
I'm just waiting for Risso to complain that "Lerner has us copying bloody Weymouth".
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That away with the collar is gorgeous.
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That away with the collar is gorgeous.
It'd look tons better if it was white with claret trim though!
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http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/9766/macron-viking-adult-football-shirt/
Basic stock shirt and yours for £10.80; just get your nan to sew on a Villa badge for you........
(http://www.discountsportonline.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/cache/Macron_Viking_5346_1410_popup_img_355.jpg)
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That away with the collar is gorgeous.
It'd look tons better if it was white with claret trim though!
You mean the yellow and blue one I did, if so I can do the same kit but white and claret
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The top 2 mock ups from Marshall will do.
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White Version of my away Kit
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9722/villaawaywhite.png)
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Nike > Macron
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Nike > Macron
Ford > Ferrari but which one would you rather drive ?
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Just had a look at the team photo from Rotterdam, I think most of the team wore Nike boots at a time
when Nike were a new supplier to the football market trying to get exposure, where addidas & Puma were the established brands.
A pity that a better relationship didnt develop over the years, however with regard to the next
kit supplier, imagine those skintight Kappa shirts on some of our lot.
And how do we know that in 30 years from now Macron will not have the same sort of brand esteem in which some on here currently hold for Nike?
As for kit suppliers, I can remember in the summer of 1981 people were saying Le Coq who? Yet it is their logo that adorns the kit worn for our greatest triumph. Sometimes it is worth remembering it is not whether the kit features a swoosh, trefoil or whatever that matters, but rather the players that it adorns.
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Macron>X-Step.
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(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3835/macronvillashirt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/macronvillashirt.jpg/)
I like it.
Looks very 1982.....yes please
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Macron>X-Step.
Villa > Blues
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White Version of my away Kit
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9722/villaawaywhite.png)
Superb! Much better than the yellow one. Our away kit should be white. Thanks for that, nice one!
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That's not bad at all.
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Just had a look at the team photo from Rotterdam, I think most of the team wore Nike boots at a time
when Nike were a new supplier to the football market trying to get exposure, where addidas & Puma were the established brands.
A pity that a better relationship didnt develop over the years, however with regard to the next
kit supplier, imagine those skintight Kappa shirts on some of our lot.
A few years ago, someone on here posted a scan of a magnificent Nike advert from 1981/2, which (memory going fuzzy now) had the Villa team, and the slogan "Villa Park, Birmingham" on it.
I took a copy of it and squirrelled it away somewhere, but have lost it. Would love to see it again.
EDIT - actually, think it may have been "Villa Park, England".
Anyone find this?
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Awesome white kit! Get the designs sent to the club! I would definitely buy one!
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Would have preferred Umbro, Kappa or Puma ahead of Macron. However, look forward to seeing what they can do.
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Would Petrov get 4 stripes on the white kit for being the captain?
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Is it defo Macron then?
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Is it defo Macron then?
Nope
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I will do more mock ups once the kit maker gets announced
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(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3835/macronvillashirt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/macronvillashirt.jpg/)
I like it.
Looks very 1982.....yes please
LOVE IT .. maybe just keep the sleeves blue but much better than Nike
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White Version of my away Kit
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9722/villaawaywhite.png)
Superb! Much better than the yellow one. Our away kit should be white. Thanks for that, nice one!
The yellow one , for some reason reminded me of Leeds
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That white kit is nice, but it looks like a tennis shirt.
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My liverpool mate recons the Warrior kits are disgusting .. ha ha
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Just had a look at the team photo from Rotterdam, I think most of the team wore Nike boots at a time
when Nike were a new supplier to the football market trying to get exposure, where addidas & Puma were the established brands.
A pity that a better relationship didnt develop over the years, however with regard to the next
kit supplier, imagine those skintight Kappa shirts on some of our lot.
A few years ago, someone on here posted a scan of a magnificent Nike advert from 1981/2, which (memory going fuzzy now) had the Villa team, and the slogan "Villa Park, Birmingham" on it.
I took a copy of it and squirrelled it away somewhere, but have lost it. Would love to see it again.
EDIT - actually, think it may have been "Villa Park, England".
Anyone find this?
It's a pic of the Villa dressing room with shirts hanging up and Nike boots underneath I think....wasn't it centre spread in the European Cup final programme?
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Edit: forget it.
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Just had a look at the team photo from Rotterdam, I think most of the team wore Nike boots at a time
when Nike were a new supplier to the football market trying to get exposure, where addidas & Puma were the established brands.
A pity that a better relationship didnt develop over the years, however with regard to the next
kit supplier, imagine those skintight Kappa shirts on some of our lot.
A few years ago, someone on here posted a scan of a magnificent Nike advert from 1981/2, which (memory going fuzzy now) had the Villa team, and the slogan "Villa Park, Birmingham" on it.
I took a copy of it and squirrelled it away somewhere, but have lost it. Would love to see it again.
EDIT - actually, think it may have been "Villa Park, England".
Anyone find this?
It's a pic of the Villa dressing room with shirts hanging up and Nike boots underneath I think....wasn't it centre spread in the European Cup final programme?
www.villatalk.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=printview&t=25133&start=0
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There was another Nike poster, a picture of Withe just after he scored at Rotterdam, in the back of the goal, clenched fist, wide grin.. beautiful it was. I saw it once in a sports shop in Aberdeen of all places.... unless I dreamt it.
Oh, and in order to stay on topic, I like the weymouth kit
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Someone on another forum asked for 2 Umbro kits and one with a sash on, so I though I post them here aswell
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8201/villahomeumbrofull.png)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3991/villaawayumbrofull.png)
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Really like them. Wish we could have Umbro, I think they do a good job for Man City.
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Very smart. Sadly though we're gonna end up a with cheap Macron effort with their hideous trademark oversized emblam on the shoulders.
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Loving the Umbro mock ups. I'd be happy of those were our kits next season
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If the Club asked the fans what they want, any kit maker will make a decent kit.
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Umbro looks good there.
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Very smart. Sadly though we're gonna end up a with cheap Macron effort with their hideous trademark oversized emblam on the shoulders.
Well it has saved you £40 odd quid so I don't know what the constant moaning about them is about.
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So if I put a Macron logo on the Umbro Kits some people wont like them?
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Marshall, that away kit is nice but I can't see Genting accepting their logo so small. Try it with the double stripe going from the left shoulder to the left hip and narrow them a bit and see how the logo works then. If I had a pc brain I'd have a go myself!
As for the manufacturer, the club won't announce who it is until March at least so there's no point in getting worked up about it before then. Got any Adidas mock-ups?
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Those Umbro mock-ups are sheer class, marshall. I couldn't care less whose logo was on the front if we got two simple, elegant strips like that.
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For a Laugh
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9269/villa94.png)
Adidas
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9953/villaadidascopy.png)
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/329/villaadidasaway.png)
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Love them all Marshall. I wouldn't mind seeing the old green and back as a third kit. Can you do a Puma version?
I know that John Greenfield says the club will seek supporter opinion ahead of the new kit. You want try and get in on that. You have some really nice ideas. Still love the yellow Nike you did (think it was you) a while back.
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I hate that hideous green, black and red kit that we had all them years back.
The mock ups of the addidas ones are great but i cant see us getting addidas as our kit manufacturer.
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Those Umbro ones are really classy, well done Marshall but what a pity we have zero chance of getting something!!
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Those Umbro ones are really classy, well done Marshall but what a pity we have zero chance of getting something!!
As I said, if the club and the kit maker listened to the fans we could easily get a kit like that
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Love those Adidas ones Marshall, good job! We'll just have to wait and see won't we?
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Puma Home
(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3894/villapumacopy.png)
I was think of changing the Puma logo to Claret. I wanted this one to be slightly different.
I might make an away Puma kit with some weird colours. I was think Pink and Blue
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Polka-dot spots?
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Might be in the minority but I really like that Puma kit. You have made some nice mock-ups here Marshall, I'd be happy with any of them are our design next season.
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So if I put a Macron logo on the Umbro Kits some people wont like them?
I think they're great. You should be employed by them.
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The one above looks like a woman's dress, sorry. The claret is like an off the shoulder number stretching across a woman's breast.
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Hopefully, it's the ladies kit mock-up.
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Not quite on topic but whenever I say Genting in my mind I always sing 'Uptown Top Ranking' in the next breath.
'In mi Khaki suit en ting...'
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Love the Adidas home. White sleeves on the away though please.
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Loving the claret & blue shirts that have been put on here. I just have a feeling that the club has invested too much time and money in the "chequered" branding and that all future kits will incorporate checks on them. Not that I mind if it done subtly, but have a feeling it is not that far away from us having a claret & blue check home kit :(
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Fair play Marshall, cracking efforts. If i had to pick, the adidas home kit is amazing, really great. (I love the colours of the away one but think its a bit busy with the diagonal stripes as well) The white Macron away kit is realy smart as well although macron would be my least favourite of the manufacturers. They will have to do really well with kit design and quality to sell one over here. They are about right for the villa at the moment though
Its like settling for a fat girlfriend....
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Loving all the mock ups Marshall. Doing a great job! Especially the umbro ones. But they're all really good designs.
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Umbro ones look very classy. If only!
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Who owns Le Coq Sportif? I always liked the two tone claret kit that Didier Six wore...
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The old yellow and blue away kit was good. Don't know who made it.
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As a general rule I feel that wide stripes, chevrons, checks and colours other than claret, blue and white should be avoided. The only exception I will make is the black shirt with a red lion on it and white shorts from 18whenever. I would also like a replica of the FA cup shirt of 1957 to be our next away.
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Too Radical
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7928/pumah.png)
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Probably. Most likely too much claret for it to function properly as an away kit too. Unless you meant it as a home kit? In which case, I feel I speak for most reasonable Villa fans when I say... burn the witch!
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I would rock that top in a second. I just want a reputable brand, not some minnie mouse garbage. I want a big vendor..
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Too Radical
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7928/pumah.png)
I love it.
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"I would rock that top in a second?" Perhaps I'm showing my age, but what exactly does that mean? I think that mock up is really smart. Still think the ultimate away kit is the late 70s early 80s white umbro kit. White shirt with claret and blue colour. Memories failing me a bit now but whas it claret diamonds running along the length of the sleeves or blue diamonds. Or am I just dreaming that bit? Anyway a white top with sky blue shorts and socks. No claret shorts or socks please. It just looks wrong!
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Awful but I suppose it depicts the style of play and the way we are heading.
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As a general rule I feel that wide stripes, chevrons, checks and colours other than claret, blue and white should be avoided. The only exception I will make is the black shirt with a red lion on it and white shorts from 18whenever. I would also like a replica of the FA cup shirt of 1957 to be our next away.
I wouldn't mind that as our home kit.
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I really like the Umbro and Adidas mock ups I would buy them.
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2 more you might recognise the design.
(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7656/villa82home.png)
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7656/villa82home.png)
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Its macron, its on there website...http://en.macron.com/Macron-Store
If u click the Macron Store profile.pdf its on there
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Some real talent on their books by the looks of it.
Check out the basketball and rugby teams. Impressive.
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Just made this for someone
(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/5466/villax.png)
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Just made this for someone
(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/5466/villax.png)
Can you make me one?
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Its macron, its on there website...http://en.macron.com/Macron-Store
If u click the Macron Store profile.pdf its on there
Good spot.
If the kit is basic (light blue sleeves, white shorts, light blue socks) and available to buy before Xmas we can't really have too many complaints. I don't hate West Ham's current strips, if they're anything to go by.
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There you go
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6278/macrond.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/macrond.jpg/)
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Great spot, that - can't believe Villa would be pleased to see the information leaked before an official release. Let's just hope their shirts are spot on.
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I wonder whether the new kit manufacturer can make Barry Bannan a pair of shorts that don't look like a pair of pyjama bottoms ? !
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I wonder whether the new kit manufacturer can make Barry Bannan a pair of shorts that don't look like a pair of pyjama bottoms ? !
LMAO!!! ;D ;D ;D
Im sure Macron will do us some decent kits. As long as the quality is good and the kits look decent then im not too fussed to be honest. it could worse, we could have XTREP make our kits
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Good news all round. Look forward to see what they do.
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At the end of the day, they valued the Villa brand at a higher £££ than anybody else. They are obviously a growing and ambitious company.
Let's see what they can do.
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Dodgy Italians make the kits !!! Maybe we could strike a deal and get some decent Italian players over here as well !!
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My Away Kit
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2449/villaaway.png)
Lets see how the real ones compare to my designs
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My Away Kit
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2449/villaaway.png)
Lets see how the real ones compare to my designs
I've found you on Twitter!
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If only...
Adidas
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9953/villaadidascopy.png)
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So is it Macron then? Do we know any details, like how much?
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
You cant really say shit kit as it has not been revealed yet. Give macron a chance. Yes we would all like an ADIDAS or some other "big" brand as our kit manufacturer but we have to look at where we are in terms of our global demand and our current position in the league. I think its more embarressing for Liverpool to be dropped by Adidas than us ending our associated with Nike due to the manner in which we have been treated by them - quality of kits and a cock up with the production of our tops last season.
Im sure given the chance, Macron will do a good job.
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Erm....so is it Macron then? Any details? How much? Maybe even yes or no?
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
What a pathetic neanderthal response!
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
What a pathetic neanderthal response!
So the truth is now neanderthal?
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So it's true then?
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Misguided fool that I am, I thought we were supporters...how can we judge somehing that we have not even seen yet?
And as for being a shit team, that is nonsense not truth.
And as far as the manager is concerned I don't think he is doing a shit job.
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
What a pathetic neanderthal response!
So the truth is now neanderthal?
It is as we have not even seen the kit so how do you know its shit................
If they get the kit out on time and its good quality thats more than Nike have done over the past 3/4 years
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Team that's improving, manager who seems to be turning things round, kit we haven't seen yet.
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So it's true then?
Still nothing official from the club
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Invisible, I skip across the floor,
You don't even see me,
Float through walls and tables,
You still don't believe me.
I make a joke, and toss a line,
To no-one there who can see me alive,
I'm not one to give up,
But I feel I'm at a loss,
And I've become invisible.
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Thanks spangley.
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Dodgy Italians make the kits !!! Maybe we could strike a deal and get some decent Italian players over here as well !!
"Dodgy Italians"
Nowt like a gigantic stereotype is there?
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
Des, that really is utter nonsense
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
Des, that really is utter nonsense
In fairness, it's not really nonsense to suggest the team has been shit, as it has for much of the season.
*wink*
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THe PDF at Macron appear to have have been removed
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Jumping the gun does result in that. Much like SportsDirect showing our kit before announced.
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Shit team, shit manager, shit kit.
Proud history...
Des, that really is utter nonsense
In fairness, it's not really nonsense to suggest the team has been shit, as it has for much of the season.
*wink*
Now, now. Just because at times we have played shit, doesn't make us a shit team. There are players that have played very well, but for some conedy defending we'd be doing a lot better.
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Dodgy Italians make the kits !!! Maybe we could strike a deal and get some decent Italian players over here as well !!
That would be Italians renowned the world over for their clothing style and fashion sense as opposed to Americans known the world over for their lack of it. There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
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Other clubs fans are gonna take the piss out of us?
:( oh god i might cry.
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Other clubs fans are gonna take the piss out of us?
:( oh god i might cry.
Is that you, dazzy g?
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
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Should I be offended at that? I really don't know.
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Who gives a fuck about the shirt maker?
I don't recall West Ham getting stick when they had a Macron kit. In fact, I remember some people on here saying how nice their kit was in comparison to the design we had from Nike at the time. It's not like we've always had top name kit sponsors is it? We've had Hummel and Oasics for instance (and the really obscure one whose name I cannot recall in the eighties). People bought those shirts, nobody laughed and the team played no worse for the shirt on their backs. If the team play well they can be dressed in bin bags for all I care (as long as they are claret and blue). I just cannot understand the hysteria around this
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
So I'm an idiot for not wanting to purchase a kit or merchandise made by Macron. I may well remember that next time I'm about to purchase my copy of H&V.
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Who gives a fuck about the shirt maker?
I don't recall West Ham getting stick when they had a Macron kit. In fact, I remember some people on here saying how nice their kit was in comparison to the design we had from Nike at the time. It's not like we've always had top name kit sponsors is it? We've had Hummel and Oasics for instance (and the really obscure one whose name I cannot recall in the eighties). People bought those shirts, nobody laughed and the team played no worse for the shirt on their backs. If the team play well they can be dressed in bin bags for all I care (as long as they are claret and blue). I just cannot understand the hysteria around this
Bang on.
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
So I'm an idiot for not wanting to purchase a kit or merchandise made by Macron. I may well remember that next time I'm about to purchase my copy of H&V.
You're an idiot if all you're bothered about is logos and brand names. If the quality and design is alright what difference does the manufacturer's name make?
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
So I'm an idiot for not wanting to purchase a kit or merchandise made by Macron. I may well remember that next time I'm about to purchase my copy of H&V.
Yes, you are an idiot. Who cares about labels? Are you in primary school and worried about being bullied if you aren't in a nice new pair of Nikes?
This is the grown up world where labels really don't matter. Macron's kits look better than most of the Nike and Adidas efforts I see.
The fact you'd rather see YOUR club stay with a company like Nike (who have treated YOUR club badly for years) than find a new company to work with (who will strive to make YOUR club happy and treat YOUR club well, as deserved) just proves you're an idiot.
The thing that makes you even more idiotic? Threatening to not buy H&V. You just seem bitter.
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
So I'm an idiot for not wanting to purchase a kit or merchandise made by Macron. I may well remember that next time I'm about to purchase my copy of H&V.
put your dummy back in mate
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
So I'm an idiot for not wanting to purchase a kit or merchandise made by Macron. I may well remember that next time I'm about to purchase my copy of H&V.
Yes, you are an idiot. Who cares about labels? Are you in primary school and worried about being bullied if you aren't in a nice new pair of Nikes?
This is the grown up world where labels really don't matter. Macron's kits look better than most of the Nike and Adidas efforts I see.
The fact you'd rather see YOUR club stay with a company like Nike (who have treated YOUR club badly for years) than find a new company to work with (who will strive to make YOUR club happy and treat YOUR club well, as deserved) just proves you're an idiot.
The thing that makes you even more idiotic? Threatening to not buy H&V. You just seem bitter.
clappy thing
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I would say that all other things being equal, Nike kits would probably sell more than Macron kits, due to the younger generation preferring brands like Nike. However, Nike's generally uninspiring designs and inability to get the shirts out on time would probably have a negative effect that outweighs the "benefit" to sales of them being a bigger brand. If Macron deliver a nice design that is out early enough in the summer, they'll do just fine.
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New Nike Brazil shirts...boring
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/official-brazil-nike-shirts-201213_14440
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New Nike Brazil shirts...boring
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/official-brazil-nike-shirts-201213_14440
It's a bit difficult to do much with the most iconic football shirt in the world.
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New Nike Brazil shirts...boring
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/official-brazil-nike-shirts-201213_14440
Simple and effective. I did like the Italy shirt for the 2006 World Cup though, very classy.
edit: (thought it was Nike, actually Puma so no real relevance)
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Oh my god we are gonna have a shirt made by Macron, lets burn down Villa Park.
Seriously, how can people be moaning about this when they haven't see the shirt yet ?
If it's a hideous monstrosity then fine, whinge about it then but get a grip.
Who gives a shit who makes it, if it looks good then that is the be all and end all.
If it upsets you that much maybe you should be on a bloody Nike obsessed forum.
UTV not Nikerules!
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I have no idea about the hierarchy in the world of the "chav" but am I right in saying that Adidas and Nike would be the brands of choice for them? Perhaps the people getting their knickers in a twist are a little worried about hanging around outside Spar in second-rate leisurewear, opening themselves up to a barrage of abuse from fellow "chavs".
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"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level"...its best I dont argue with the idiots that dont see the bigger picture and the potential financial consequences of this change in kit manufacturer. Its also nice to know that someone who happens to have a different (and justified) opinion to your own can be labelled as an idiot on here.
For the record, I'm far too old to be a chav however I do like to wear Nike and adidas for both sports activities and as leisure wear around the house as it is very comfortable. Just because these are my favourite/preferred brands does not in any way make me a "chav", and likewise, just because I have a different opinion doesnt make me an "idiot".
When all is said and done, Macron may provide a better service and design/manufacture a better kit, so we'll just have to wait and see...as we shall to see if the deal could actually be more profitable or has an impact on sales figures.
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
So I'm an idiot for not wanting to purchase a kit or merchandise made by Macron. I may well remember that next time I'm about to purchase my copy of H&V.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
If you're really worried about having quality, branded clothing, and you assuage those worries by buying Nike and/or Adidas, then you are indeed a grade A idiot.
I personally don't care about those things, but I care enough to know that if I, as an adult, was attempting to impress my peers by cladding my imperfect body in those labels...well, I'd be a clueless bell-end.
Not that I'm not a clueless bell-end, mind.
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"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level"...its best I dont argue with the idiots that dont see the bigger picture and the potential financial consequences of this change in kit manufacturer. Its also nice to know that someone who happens to have a different (and justified) opinion to your own can be labelled as an idiot on here.
For the record, I'm far too old to be a chav however I do like to wear Nike and adidas for both sports activities and as leisure wear around the house as it is very comfortable. Just because these are my favourite/preferred brands does not in any way make me a "chav", and likewise, just because I have a different opinion doesnt make me an "idiot".
When all is said and done, Macron may provide a better service and design/manufacture a better kit, so we'll just have to wait and see...as we shall to see if the deal could actually be more profitable or has an impact on sales figures.
Honestly, Nike and Adidas are 'more comfortable around the house'? Are your other clothes made of foil?
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If "the bigger picture" means not buying something regardless of its quality but just because it's made by the 'wrong' manufacturer, then I'm glad I can't see it.
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I personally haven't bought a replica shirt or years because I find that 40-50 quid is a lot of money to spend on something that I think looks and feels terrible. Nothing to do with who manufactures them at all. I have bought far more training jumpers than shirts in recent years.
If Macron make a decent shirt, I'll buy one. Have a look on that link to Macron posted earlier and see for yourself just how many kits look as bad as the silly checkerboard effort we're currently modelling. I personally think the Napoli and Braga home strips look excellent. The AZ one would do for me, too. In claret and blue, obviously.
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"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level"...its best I dont argue with the idiots that dont see the bigger picture and the potential financial consequences of this change in kit manufacturer. Its also nice to know that someone who happens to have a different (and justified) opinion to your own can be labelled as an idiot on here.
For the record, I'm far too old to be a chav however I do like to wear Nike and adidas for both sports activities and as leisure wear around the house as it is very comfortable. Just because these are my favourite/preferred brands does not in any way make me a "chav", and likewise, just because I have a different opinion doesnt make me an "idiot".
When all is said and done, Macron may provide a better service and design/manufacture a better kit, so we'll just have to wait and see...as we shall to see if the deal could actually be more profitable or has an impact on sales figures.
Honestly, Nike and Adidas are 'more comfortable around the house'? Are your other clothes made of foil?
Foil? Foil?! I should be so lucky! :D
Anyway, my personal leisure wear preferences dont really have anything to do with this...its about business and money, and I'm merely pointing out that sales could be badly affected. Personally, I havent purchased a Nike kit for years and I doubt that will change with Macron, however I expect that sales will decrease as a direct consequence.
If the club have managed to secure a deal that happens to be more lucrative regardless of sales, then the correct word that should be used will be "genius" rather than "idiot".
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"Don't argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level"...its best I dont argue with the idiots that dont see the bigger picture and the potential financial consequences of this change in kit manufacturer. Its also nice to know that someone who happens to have a different (and justified) opinion to your own can be labelled as an idiot on here.
For the record, I'm far too old to be a chav however I do like to wear Nike and adidas for both sports activities and as leisure wear around the house as it is very comfortable. Just because these are my favourite/preferred brands does not in any way make me a "chav", and likewise, just because I have a different opinion doesnt make me an "idiot".
When all is said and done, Macron may provide a better service and design/manufacture a better kit, so we'll just have to wait and see...as we shall to see if the deal could actually be more profitable or has an impact on sales figures.
Honestly, Nike and Adidas are 'more comfortable around the house'? Are your other clothes made of foil?
Foil? Foil?! I should be so lucky! :D
Mate, it's a damn sight cheaper and you'd last longer at London Fashion Week before getting turfed out.
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I dont do fashion...you should have picked up on that when I said I wear Nike and adidas around the house! lol :D
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Lacoste would be nice.
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Whilst I'm maybe not as heartbroken as Saunders Heroes and KRS, it would be naive not to see our migration to a kit supplier more synonymous with mid ranking and lower division sides as a downgrade.
Until the full details are released, I'll hold fire on the condemnation however. I have to be honest and say after a quick look over some of the examples on their website, I'm not blown away. But if the numbers stack up (ie if they've offered us a deal similar to the Genting one) that might sway me.
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Macron? So long as the designer who came up with the current black Leeds away kit doesn't get to work on ours!
Another thing. But does anyone else think grown (and overgrown) adults walking around the streets in replica shirts with footballers names on their back look pretty stupid? I can understand doing it up until say puberty, but when you're older... oh dear.
Walked behind two blokes after the first game of the season who had "N'Zogbia" on their backs. I thought, all N'Zogbia has done so far is agree to change jobs and add to his personal wealth considerably by doing so – and you're worshipping him like this?
No wonder there are so many marketing graduates working in football nowadays... with its readymade customer base of gullable idiots.
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Football shirts tend to make comfortable leisure wear around the home or when playing sport...and obviously match days. Its the simplest and most convenient way of showing support for your club...or should I say "display".
I've never been one for players names on the back of shirts or been keen on being a walking advertisement for our shirt sponsors, but there is a massive market for football team shirts and the club should be doing everything in its power to make the most of that. If the Macron deal is more financially lucrative than Nike (or anyone else) then we have to trust them, however I dont see sales volume being as high as it would with one of the more well known brands particularly in the youth/teenage market where I imagine most of shirt sales are generated.
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I seem to make this point every season and I'm sure many others agree but I'd love to be able to have the option of buying the replica top with or without the main sponsor. Not for any reason other than I think shirts look much better without a sponsor. I know we were able to get them sponsor-free this year but that was serendipitous rather than deliberate, if I remember correctly.
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We should of asked Fred Perry.
How fucking cool would that be?
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Fred Perry (or Selfridges) seem aware of us already. Last time I bought one, in Selfridges, all colours of their polo shirts were 45 quid, except claret and blue, which were 60.
Would be ace though.
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Oh my god we are gonna have a shirt made by Macron, lets burn down Villa Park.
Seriously, how can people be moaning about this when they haven't see the shit yet ?
You're as bad as KRS!
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My God! Who cares about the manufacturer? Nike have been absolutely awful. Lazy kit designs and late delivery. So surely if the kit is of good quality and produced on time for next summer then it's an improvement on Nike. And aren't the Italians renowned for their fashion sense anyway? So I think we could be the most fashionable team in the country next year. I'm looking forward to seeing it!
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Oh my god we are gonna have a shirt made by Macron, lets burn down Villa Park.
Seriously, how can people be moaning about this when they haven't see the shit yet ?
You're as bad as KRS!
Doh !
Amended.
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its about business and money, and I'm merely pointing out that sales could be badly affected. Personally, I havent purchased a Nike kit for years and I doubt that will change with Macron, however I expect that sales will decrease as a direct consequence.
It's been mentioned already but you seem to have either missed or ignored it so I'll repeat it.
How good for sales has been the fact that Nike have repeatedly been late in getting our kits ready for sale over the past few years? The key brand in the Aston Villa replica shirt is 'Aston Villa' - not Nike, or Macron, or whoever. The shirts will sell regardless or the manufacturer.
And although some people might not buy the shirt if its made by Macron, at least they'll have the option to buy it. When Nike didn't have our shirt ready until November it didn't matter whether you were a sportswear snob or not, you simply couldn't buy it.
And that's got to be worse for sales.
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There does seem to be a surfeit of people taken in by the advertising. Lets face it at the end of the day it's claret with blue sleeves and needs no design work really since Umbro completed the job in 1974. It's a licence to print money and it's a desirable item because it has the Aston Villa F.C. badge on it not the fucking nike scrawl or the adidas pile of used bricks or the puma pussy
Its not about advertising; its about having a strong sports brand providing kit and merchandise. If an identical kit was produced by both Macron and adidas, I can guarantee that more adidas shirts would be sold. I'm already preparing for fans of other clubs taking the piss out of the Macron shirts..."Macron, who are they?!"...I can almost hear it now.
Yes it is just a shirt worn by the players at the end of the day, but if we had an adidas kit and merchandise, I can honestly say that I would have probably spent a few hundred quid on shirt, training tops and leisure wear; I wont be spending a penny on anything with a Macron label. I suspect the same will apply to thousands of other Villa fans resulting in a massive drop in a guaranteed revenue stream.
Then they're idiots as well.
So I'm an idiot for not wanting to purchase a kit or merchandise made by Macron. I may well remember that next time I'm about to purchase my copy of H&V.
You're an idiot if all you're bothered about is logos and brand names. If the quality and design is alright what difference does the manufacturer's name make?
That's a bit strong isnt it calling a fellow fan an idiot just because he makes a valid point regarding the kit manufacturer. Ok whoever makes the kit isnt the be all of the situation but I thought this forum was for banter and for fans to give their opinion? Am I wrong?
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Should I be offended at that? I really don't know.
Absolutely not. It was just missing a winky thang.
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The best way to improve shirt sales is to start being quite good again or even better would be being bloody great again.
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We've had Hummel and Oasics for instance (and the really obscure one whose name I cannot recall in the eighties). People bought those shirts, nobody laughed and the team played no worse for the shirt on their backs.
Henson and that was the worst Villa team I've ever seen clad in the worst shirt we've ever had.
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How good for sales has been the fact that Nike have repeatedly been late in getting our kits ready for sale over the past few years? The key brand in the Aston Villa replica shirt is 'Aston Villa' - not Nike, or Macron, or whoever. The shirts will sell regardless or the manufacturer.
And although some people might not buy the shirt if its made by Macron, at least they'll have the option to buy it. When Nike didn't have our shirt ready until November it didn't matter whether you were a sportswear snob or not, you simply couldn't buy it.
And that's got to be worse for sales.
Exactly, I'd rather be a priority client of a smaller shirt brand than an ignored client of a bigger shirt brand.
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Does anyone have any actual sales figures of recent shirts? Is there any evidence that Nike-branded products outsell their Hummel, Diadora, Asics or Reebok counterparts? Ad@m's point regarding the most important brand - Aston Villa Football Club - is a valid one for me, and that brand doesn't change.
One factor that may make a difference is the sponsor- I wear my Acorns shirts with pride, I don't care for being an advert for anyone else on the shirt, and there is no chance I'll buy a shirt advertising a casino. Although that's more down to my bitterness towards the casino business in general after nine years as a croupier, including many years in casinos now run by Genting...
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"You'll never win the League wearing Macron".
Alan Hanson, August 2012.
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its about business and money, and I'm merely pointing out that sales could be badly affected. Personally, I havent purchased a Nike kit for years and I doubt that will change with Macron, however I expect that sales will decrease as a direct consequence.
It's been mentioned already but you seem to have either missed or ignored it so I'll repeat it.
How good for sales has been the fact that Nike have repeatedly been late in getting our kits ready for sale over the past few years? The key brand in the Aston Villa replica shirt is 'Aston Villa' - not Nike, or Macron, or whoever. The shirts will sell regardless or the manufacturer.
And although some people might not buy the shirt if its made by Macron, at least they'll have the option to buy it. When Nike didn't have our shirt ready until November it didn't matter whether you were a sportswear snob or not, you simply couldn't buy it.
And that's got to be worse for sales.
I agree Ad@m and I'm not dismissing the fact that the service from Nike has been nothing short of disgraceful at times, and the 2nd hand kit designs in the last couple of seasons leave a lot to be desired. I havent bought a shirt since the first Acorns which is the best kit we've had in years so its very disappointing that they didnt maintain the standards. Some of the additional Nike merchandise such as leisure and training wear has been fairly decent though. I dont know the full facts on the Nike deal but I'm sure the club may have to take some responsibility for the poor service/designs recently.
With regards to sales, it would be interesting to see and compare shirt and merchandise sales volumes over the last 10 or so years, and then see how they stack up against the forthcoming Macron deal. Only then will we know if my concerns are correct or if I'm just completely wrong.
As you also touched upon, a lot of this comes down to personal taste and preference so an individual shouldnt be critised for their purchasing decisions whether its a fat bald bloke buying a replica kit, a fit blonde wearing an AVFC thong, a chav wearing an AVFC baseball cap...or if a person decides to buy based on the brand which is after all an integral part of the design in most cases (see the Macron, Nike or adidas logos and branding for influence over design).
Its also worth pointing out that not so long ago many ppl on here were complaining about our shirts not being available in a number of sports shops in and outside the Midlands, and how the top 4 clubs seem to be all over the place even in our back yard. I think its safe to assume that this certainly wont be improved under Macron and is more than likely to get worse (this is a completely unfounded assumption so I'll hold my hands up if I'm proved wrong).
Whilst we're on the subject and I've mentioned this before in other threads, but I still dislike the new/current AVFC badge and overall branding associated with the club. There is much room for improvement in this department and have no doubt that this relates to poor merchandise designs; however like someone has also mentioned, on the pitch performance and consistent success in footballing terms is the most vital part of creating a strong brand for AVFC.
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I think the point is KRS is its brand association. We'd prefer to be associated with top brands like Nike or Adidas as we see Aston villa also as a premium brand. You'd rather be associated with coca cola rather than panda cola. Or Armani instead of Primark.
Nike insulted us with their attitude. I'm not at all bothered we've parted ways. They treated us like it's an honour we have them making our shirts. Not the other way around.
Macron might surprise us yet with quite a stunning kit and training wear. Until we see it we won't know.
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We should of asked Fred Perry.
How fucking cool would that be?
I WOULD FUCKING LOVE THAT!!!!!!
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Lacoste would be nice.
it's a shame John Smedley or Gabbici don't do football shirts
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I think the point is KRS is its brand association. We'd prefer to be associated with top brands like Nike or Adidas as we see Aston villa also as a premium brand. You'd rather be associated with coca cola rather than panda cola. Or Armani instead of Primark.
Nike insulted us with their attitude. I'm not at all bothered we've parted ways. They treated us like it's an honour we have them making our shirts. Not the other way around.
Macron might surprise us yet with quite a stunning kit and training wear. Until we see it we won't know.
I agree entirely. We should have dropped Nike at the end of last season.
I dont know how these deals are done but I also acknowledge the fact that it has to be an attractive proposition for the manufacturer, so its no surprise we havent struck a deal with someone like adidas after they recently announced they wont be extending the Liverpool deal. This may also explain why we havent made a deal with the likes of Puma, Reebok or Umbro (although I belive Umbro are now owned by Nike?); however if the likes of Stoke and Baggies can secure adidas then I dont know why we cant...I can only presume the deal on the table wasnt as good as that from Macron.
...and yes, I think an adidas kit would be great especially if it looked anything like the design posted by someone on here.
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Does it really matter who makes the kit?
Does having the name Nike, Adidas, Macron, or Primark on the shirt make the team play any better?
As long as the kit is in the traditional Claret body with Blue sleeves and White shorts who gives a flying fuck?
Note to all you fashionistas get a life!!
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Does it really matter who makes the kit?
Does having the name Nike, Adidas, Macron, or Primark on the shirt make the team play any better?
As long as the kit is in the traditional Claret body with Blue sleeves and White shorts who gives a flying fuck?
Note to all you fashionistas get a life!!
Can we have less of this sort of thing please.
Having worked in marketing for many years, I'm delighted that branding generally has become so universally successful, especially with the younger folk. It makes it all worthwhile.
Macron. You must be joking!
*winky*
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Yes. Yes it does TLP.
As much as we may not like it, football is now a massive global brand with PL games being watched all over the world. There is a massive opportunity to push the AVFC brand beyond the Midlands, beyond the UK, and beyond Europe; and having one of the worlds most popular and fashionable sports brands manufacturing your kit can only help to push the AVFC brand around the globe especially if it coincides with success and performance on the pitch.
Since we dont expect success on the pitch for quite a while then we may as well have Macron. Speaks volumes about pretty much everything surrounding the club at the moment...did someone mention apathy?
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Lacoste would be nice.
it's a shame John Smedley or Gabbici don't do football shirts
I think we should go to Paul Smith and get them properly designed - £150 a shirt, BARGAIN !!
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Yes. Yes it does TLP.
As much as we may not like it, football is now a massive global brand with PL games being watched all over the globe. There is a massive opportunity to push the AVFC brand beyond the Midlands, beyond the UK, and beyond Europe; and having one of the worlds most popular and fashionable sports brands manufacturing your kit can only help to push the AVFC brand around the globe especially if it coincides with success and performance on the pitch.
Since we dont expect success on the pitch for quite a while then we may as well have Macron. Speaks volumes about pretty much everything surrounding the club at the moment...did someone mention apathy?
The only way for the AVFC "brand" (puke) to be recognised globally is if the team are doing well.
Do you really believe that if we won the Premier League a couple of times that kids in Hong Kong or any where else would say I'm not wearing their shirt because it's not made by Nike or whoever?
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Umbro don't make too many PL teams nowadays,i know they do Englands kits,but theyre British and some of the New York Cosmos kit they do is really nice.
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Yes. Yes it does TLP.
As much as we may not like it, football is now a massive global brand with PL games being watched all over the globe. There is a massive opportunity to push the AVFC brand beyond the Midlands, beyond the UK, and beyond Europe; and having one of the worlds most popular and fashionable sports brands manufacturing your kit can only help to push the AVFC brand around the globe especially if it coincides with success and performance on the pitch.
Since we dont expect success on the pitch for quite a while then we may as well have Macron. Speaks volumes about pretty much everything surrounding the club at the moment...did someone mention apathy?
The only way for the AVFC "brand" (puke) to be recognised globally is if the team are doing well.
Do you really believe that if we won the Premier League a couple of times that kids in Hong Kong or any where else would say I'm not wearing their shirt because it's not made by Nike or whoever?
I think the point KRS is making is the same as yours, IF we were making waves in the Prem., we'd attract the likes of Adidas on a far better footing.
Everything is 'by association' these days, and being associated with Macron does show where we are sadly.
Better be a fantastic kit after all the fuck ups and apathy shown by Nike.
I'm sure PF knows what he's doing.
*Medium Sarcasm*
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Yes. Yes it does TLP.
As much as we may not like it, football is now a massive global brand with PL games being watched all over the globe. There is a massive opportunity to push the AVFC brand beyond the Midlands, beyond the UK, and beyond Europe; and having one of the worlds most popular and fashionable sports brands manufacturing your kit can only help to push the AVFC brand around the globe especially if it coincides with success and performance on the pitch.
Since we dont expect success on the pitch for quite a while then we may as well have Macron. Speaks volumes about pretty much everything surrounding the club at the moment...did someone mention apathy?
The only way for the AVFC "brand" (puke) to be recognised globally is if the team are doing well.
Do you really believe that if we won the Premier League a couple of times that kids in Hong Kong or any where else would say I'm not wearing their shirt because it's not made by Nike or whoever?
I think the point KRS is making is the same as yours, IF we were making waves in the Prem., we'd attract the likes of Adidas on a far better footing.
Everything is 'by association' these days, and being associated with Macron does show where we are sadly.
Better be a fantastic kit after all the fuck ups and apathy shown by Nike.
I'm sure PF knows what he's doing.
*Medium Sarcasm*
TLP is right, the only really important thing is the team's performance, but in a sense, so are you. It's really sad to see just what the billions spent on branding has done to the perceptions of so many people that they are upset by the thought that their football club is not associated with commercial enterprises who they perceive to be the "biggest brands."
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Umbro don't make too many PL teams nowadays,i know they do Englands kits,but theyre British and some of the New York Cosmos kit they do is really nice.
Thats because they are owned by Nike
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See 'The Future of Villa Park'.
North Stand redevelopment is in the same file.
Success ON the pitch = more money from all angles and as a result, a global 'brand' is developed.
Change 'Prepared' to 'Catch 22'.
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I think the other reason macron has been chosen instead of sticking with the likes of Nike is that that kit will be designed for us. Nike may design the shirts for Manchester united and Barcelona but we just have off the shelf designs which many other clubs also have. It's not unique to us.
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I think the other reason macron has been chosen instead of sticking with the likes of Nike is that that kit will be designed for us. Nike may design the shirts for Manchester united and Barcelona but we just have off the shelf designs which many other clubs also have. It's not unique to us.
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I think the other reason macron has been chosen instead of sticking with the likes of Nike is that that kit will be designed for us. Nike may design the shirts for Manchester united and Barcelona but we just have off the shelf designs which many other clubs also have. It's not unique to us.
I think it is plain £££££
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See 'The Future of Villa Park'.
North Stand redevelopment is in the same file.
Success ON the pitch = more money from all angles and as a result, a global 'brand' is developed.
Change 'Prepared' to 'Catch 22'.
As with all catch 22s there comes a point when a plan and action are required. I'm wondering if there are any parallels to our current state of a need for ground development and the position we found ourselves in back in the early seventies? Back then we decided to turn the Witton End into the (then) state of the art North Stand. It was a financially mismanaged project BUT it did mirror ambition on the pitch and it did add a sheen and sense of dynamism and progress to the club. Nearly forty years later, the North Stand having reached the end of its natural life (in my view) we find ourselves in a similar situation where we need to remind the world that, on the pitch and off, we have ambition.
It is a catch 22 situation and, for me, it requires action on our part. Only this time around we had better make sure we don't employ any dodgy dealers. Partnering up with dynamic business associates and kit manufacturers is part of this, too. Who knows, maybe the Macron deal is for big money and fits into this idea of being upwardly mobile and ambitious? I will be interested to hear what the club says when it is all made official.
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We've had more crap kits than good kits over the past 20 years. It doesn't really bother me what we have. I certainly wouldn't buy or wear a shirt.
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We've had more crap kits than good kits over the past 20 years. It doesn't really bother me what we have. I certainly wouldn't buy or wear a shirt.
You were born in Newcastle and I claim my £5.
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Yes. Yes it does TLP.
As much as we may not like it, football is now a massive global brand with PL games being watched all over the world. There is a massive opportunity to push the AVFC brand beyond the Midlands, beyond the UK, and beyond Europe; and having one of the worlds most popular and fashionable sports brands manufacturing your kit can only help to push the AVFC brand around the globe especially if it coincides with success and performance on the pitch.
Since we dont expect success on the pitch for quite a while then we may as well have Macron. Speaks volumes about pretty much everything surrounding the club at the moment...did someone mention apathy?
This kind of language is obscene. It comes from the other side of the Atlantic and that people here are only to willing to adopt it and the mindset that comes with it is why the Premier league and this country are in the state they are. We are only a 'brand' to the like of London-inhabiting Man Ure supporting numpties and if we need the likes of Nike to sell them shirts then I'm pleased they will be wearing red.
I say again it's a Claret Body with Blue Sleeves and the rampant lion on the chest. Any other badges or logos are trespassing with the exception of Acorns, a welcome guest.
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Another request from someone on another forum
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4213/macronaway2b.png)
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I know the argument for going with a smaller brand is that we should be looking for a more customised/ individual kit, but do a mock up using the black Napoli away kit as a template.
Looks like the best thing Macron have done by far, to date.
If the home kit looks anything like this, I won't be distraught either (though I have a feeling the checks will be around for a while yet).
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3835/macronvillashirt.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/macronvillashirt.jpg/)
So long as it doesn't look naff, and a bit, well...West Ham, I'll be happy enough.
Macron do seem to like their shit collars and that weird disabled sign on the sleeves though.
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The talk of global branding for any football club surely mean very little in terms of replica shirt sales, surely? The wife and I went around parts of Asia for a while a few years ago and for every genuine United/Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea shirt I saw I musty have seen 20-30 cheap fakes. When we're talking about foreign revenue streams all we can be looking at as any worthwhile amount has to be TV rights.
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The talk of global branding for any football club surely mean very little in terms of replica shirt sales, surely? The wife and I went around parts of Asia for a while a few years ago and for every genuine United/Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea shirt I saw I musty have seen 20-30 cheap fakes. When we're talking about foreign revenue streams all we can be looking at as any worthwhile amount has to be TV rights.
They wouldn't do it if it wasn't worth it.
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The talk of global branding for any football club surely mean very little in terms of replica shirt sales, surely? The wife and I went around parts of Asia for a while a few years ago and for every genuine United/Arsenal/Liverpool/Chelsea shirt I saw I musty have seen 20-30 cheap fakes. When we're talking about foreign revenue streams all we can be looking at as any worthwhile amount has to be TV rights.
They wouldn't do it if it wasn't worth it.
My point is that it wouldn't matter who manufactures our kit to the kids in Hong Kong, China, Thailiand or anywhere else that "Big Club" shirts are sold. They couldn't care less. If they're not willing to shell out for a genuine one of a club that's popular in those areas does anyone really think that having Nike or Adidas manufacturing ours will make the slightest bit of difference to them? I've seen Villa shirts in sports shops here. They go for just over $150 (at the moment that is about 75-80 quid) and in the sports shop is where they stay. Football support is growing at a huge rate both here and in Australia yet the only shirts you see are the usual suspects and in the last couple of years Manchester City. I suspect that if Hi-Tec or Gola started making any of those club's strips people would buy them in huge numbers still.
Does anyone know the actual number of shirts we sell each season? I've read that United sell between 1.2 and 1.5 million per season on average and Liverpool, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal sell between 700 and 900,000.
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that white kit Marshall posted looks sharp.
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Does anyone know the actual number of shirts we sell each season? I've read that United sell between 1.2 and 1.5 million per season on average and Liverpool, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal sell between 700 and 900,000.
100,000 was the figure I heard.
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Does anyone know the actual number of shirts we sell each season? I've read that United sell between 1.2 and 1.5 million per season on average and Liverpool, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal sell between 700 and 900,000.
100,000 was the figure I heard.
I would have guessed slightly less than that so that's pleasing. It'd be interesting to know exactly how much profit the club sees from that amount sold.
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My point is that it wouldn't matter who manufactures our kit to the kids in Hong Kong, China, Thailiand or anywhere else that "Big Club" shirts are sold.
So what you're saying is every potential fan in Hong Kong, China, Thailand or anywhere else that "Big Club" shirts are sold will buy a fake replica shirt if they want a replica shirt? Thats only a slight racial stereotype ;)
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It would be interesting (well maybe it wouldn't) to see the total units sold including replica kits and training gear.
For all the stick RL has taken, I'm sure I seen a pretty sizeable contrast recently between the numbers pre and post takeover. The association with Nike would have definitely helped in that regard.
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My point is that it wouldn't matter who manufactures our kit to the kids in Hong Kong, China, Thailiand or anywhere else that "Big Club" shirts are sold.
So what you're saying is every potential fan in Hong Kong, China, Thailand or anywhere else that "Big Club" shirts are sold will buy a fake replica shirt if they want a replica shirt? Thats only a slight racial stereotype ;)
;D No, Mate. Just the 20-30 that outnumbered the ones that I mentioned earlier. It's pretty much a market that we can never hope to penetrate.
Well, we'd certainly enjoy less penetration than Gary Glitter does down there, anyway, I would imagine.
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2 more you might recognise the design.
(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7656/villa82home.png)
(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7656/villa82home.png)
I'd walk over hot coals for this one! Beautiful!
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The Le Coq kit also looks a good kit I hope people from the kit manufactores read this and then they will get an idea of what we want.
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Going off on a slight tangent here, but can we have a claret lion on the badge please? I'm not sure who it ws in Villa's history, (someone on here will know) but when our original crest was designed a yellow lion was rejected because the colour yellow was synonymous with cowardice. I don't like tradition being changed for change sake, so why do owners meddle around with years of history. Anyway sorry for the little rant. Don't really mind who makes the kit as long as it is a "proper" shade of claret with sky blue arms, white shorts and sky blue socks. No white, claret or black socks. WE ARE ASTON VILLA!! Not Burnley, West Ham or any other bloody imposter playing in the famous colours. A white away kit would be nice too! Picking up on what someone else mentioned earlier, how good would be if we could get a kit produced by Fred Perry, Lacoste or some up and coming young British designer.
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That White Le Cop Sportif kit with Macron Logos
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Going off on a slight tangent here, but can we have a claret lion on the badge please? I'm not sure who it ws in Villa's history, (someone on here will know) but when our original crest was designed a yellow lion was rejected because the colour yellow was synonymous with cowardice. I don't like tradition being changed for change sake, so why do owners meddle around with years of history. Anyway sorry for the little rant. Don't really mind who makes the kit as long as it is a "proper" shade of claret with sky blue arms, white shorts and sky blue socks. No white, claret or black socks. WE ARE ASTON VILLA!! Not Burnley, West Ham or any other bloody imposter playing in the famous colours. A white away kit would be nice too! Picking up on what someone else mentioned earlier, how good would be if we could get a kit produced by Fred Perry, Lacoste or some up and coming young British designer.
Eric Houghton didn't like the yellow lion when it arrived in 1974 (I think) and black socks were worn for decades. One man's tradition is another's mew-fangled.
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Putting things in to perspective; Adidas have just offered Liverpool significantly reduced terms due to their poor on field performance. I'm speculating but, in light of Liverpools world fan base and a recent European cup win, those terms would be far greater than we could negotiate with a top line manufacturer.
Like Under Armour, who Liverpool have just agreed a record deal with, Macron are trying to break the Uk market and will pay a premium to do so. Now I doubt they would have the required clout to do that with a Champions League regular so the next best thing would be a Villa or maybe Everton. If the money is good, the replicas well made and on time, and we're considered the flag ship team then I don't see the problem....it's just the name Macron sounds a bit shit and you'd likely be wedgied if you went to school in a pair of their trainers.
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Putting things in to perspective; Adidas have just offered Liverpool significantly reduced terms due to their poor on field performance. I'm speculating but, in light of Liverpools world fan base and a recent European cup win, those terms would be far greater than we could negotiate with a top line manufacturer.
Like Under Armour, who Liverpool have just agreed a record deal with, Macron are trying to break the Uk market and will pay a premium to do so. Now I doubt they would have the required clout to do that with a Champions League regular so the next best thing would be a Villa or maybe Everton. If the money is good, the replicas well made and on time, and we're considered the flag ship team then I don't see the problem....it's just the name Macron sounds a bit shit and you'd likely be wedgied if you went to school in a pair of their trainers.
Liverpool have signed a big deal with Warrior Sports haven't they? Why would Adidas offer them anything, even reduced terms on that basis? Not sure where the Under Armour thing comes in either.
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There's a '*' next to Villa's name on the leaked team list. I assume this means it's not a done deal..
(http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/macron.png)
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There's a '*' next to Villa's name on the leaked team list. I assume this means it's not a done deal..
(http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/macron.png)
I assume it's a new account, no kit yet.
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Risso: Adidas offered Racist FC a new deal at a large reduction in price, which is why they ended up with Warrior.
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There's a '*' next to Villa's name on the leaked team list. I assume this means it's not a done deal..
(http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/macron.png)
No, the asterisk points to something that says they start from next season's kit.
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Risso: Adidas offered Racist FC a new deal at a large reduction in price, which is why they ended up with Warrior.
And yet still apparantly got £25mil a season !
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Putting things in to perspective; Adidas have just offered Liverpool significantly reduced terms due to their poor on field performance. I'm speculating but, in light of Liverpools world fan base and a recent European cup win, those terms would be far greater than we could negotiate with a top line manufacturer.
Like Under Armour, who Liverpool have just agreed a record deal with, Macron are trying to break the Uk market and will pay a premium to do so.
Macron already supply kits to West Ham United, Leeds United, Sheff United and a whole host of other lower division/ non league sides.
The deals Tottingham signed with Under Armour and Racist FC with Warrior Sports are exclusive deals.
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There's a '*' next to Villa's name on the leaked team list. I assume this means it's not a done deal..
(http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/macron.png)
No, the asterisk points to something that says they start from next season's kit.
Having seen Leeds' away kit, hope we don't get anything as bad as that !
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Something different
(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7848/blackaway.png)
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Kevin likes this.
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to be honest I like most of the macron mock-ups, including the one above.
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£15m deal right? What was the Nike deal worth?
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Nike was 10m over 5 years ...... think this was 15m over 4 ....sounds good !
Home shirt on sale June away July - lets see if that happens but it would be great
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How about a shirt lasting more than one season?
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Kevin likes this.
Richard doesn't but would if it was in all white...
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How do you open these froggy pictures? I registered with image shack. Help!
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It should give you a forum link once the image has been uploaded.
Try either the forum link or alternative forum link. Copy and paste etc.
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I'm instantly impressed as the kit will be unveiled in mid june and go on sale immediately.
When was this seasons kit released again?
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I have a Macron Napoli top and its very nice.
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How about a shirt lasting more than one season?
I never understand this. For me I love getting a new Villa top every season.
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I take it it's finally official then? Don't leave me hanging....
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I'd say it's pretty official.
http://www.macron.com/
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Yes All fine and dusted. We chose them
Out of 10 potential companies...
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Yes All fine and dusted. We chose them
Out of 10 potential companies...
It would be interesting to know who the other 9 companies were.
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its official
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2601340,00.html
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On balance, I think they'll be better than Nike. I think most of us had high hopes for the Nike deal, but they didn't really bother with us overmuch did they? Anyway, the sponsorship and kit deals have certainly come on leaps and bounds over the last few years, so well done to all involved.
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On the OS too.
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Nice to have Nike for a few years. I reckon a couple of their kits for us will be classics in 20 years. Bit disappointed we didn't get Umbro or Puma. But it's no big deal.
Any idea if Villa merchandise will be discounted soon? I've wanted some claret away shorts for the gym for ages, just can't bring myself to pay £20+
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Home Kit in June
Away kit in July
2 Goalkeeper kits available to buy in all sizes
Nearly double what Nike where paying per season
Full set of Leisure and Training ware
Flagship team in the UK
I fail to see any negatives
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While we're on the subject, anyone planning on buying any Nike stuff soon? I reckon I might get that blue track jacket with claret trim, maybe the 2008/09 home and away and 2009/10 shirt. Bet they'll be classics in 10 years.
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I wanted the black jacket Bent has on in the 100 goals wallpaper and vid ..couldn't find it for sale on the site
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I'd say it's pretty official.
http://www.macron.com/
Slightly worried that the link above still has bloody checks surrounding the Villa writing. Please McGrath, no more checks!
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Think we'll see a difference with a company desperate for our business rather than one that has bigger fish to fry.
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The checks are here to stay.
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Good deal all round I reckon. Personally I don't think there will be a significant drop in sales because of Macron (unless the kits are absolutely shocking) and this will be more than covered by the extra sales made before summer holidays.
Would be interesting to know how much Villa really make from a shirt sale from sports direct, Probably not too much at all individually.
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The checks are here to stay.
Isn't that Randy's input into the kit design?
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Yes. He has somewhat of an obsession with them. Even his grand piano has been adorned with claret and blue checks.
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So we now have the same kit manufacturer as West Ham.
Our kit will probably look identical to their's.
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So we now have the same kit manufacturer as West Ham.
Our kit will probably look identical to their's.
But with checks.
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Randy has an obsession with checks?
Wish he would sign a few.
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Randy has an obsession with checks?
Wish he would sign a few.
Is Milan Baros still alive?
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Randy has an obsession with checks?
Wish he would sign a few.
Is Milan Baros still alive?
straight swap with heskey?
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Randy has an obsession with checks?
Wish he would sign a few.
Is Milan Baros still alive?
straight swap with heskey?
I think I might actually be quite pleased if we did that.
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Good article on os now re thinking behind macron. Can't clicky as on phone if there are any volunteers?!
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Home Kit in June
Away kit in July
2 Goalkeeper kits available to buy in all sizes
Nearly double what Nike where paying per season
Full set of Leisure and Training ware
Flagship team in the UK
I fail to see any negatives
this and I bloody love that Napoli away kit
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So we now have the same kit manufacturer as West Ham.
Our kit will probably look identical to their's.
West Ham's kit is more purple than claret. Please let it not be the same!
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The check thing was all part of a plan to distinguish us from the rip-off kits merchants like Burnley and West Ham. They are everywhere now. Website, tickets, shirts, within Villa Park...
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these love their checks too
http://shop.macron.com/eshop/category/Macron-Boavista-FC.html/1/frmCatID/19315/
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It will be interesting to see their reaction if we become a flagship team NOT in the Premier League!
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At least we have a new kit manufacturer sorted out now.
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At least we have a new kit manufacturer sorted out now.
Yep, it's a huge relief
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So if I go into Sports World in Birmingham City Centre in July will I see a Villa shirt there alongside all the Sky 4 shirts?
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2601831,00.html
More on the kit
Home and Away unveiled on 16th/17th June. Home out the same day and away can be pre-ordered
Home will keep with tradition, Away will be based on the Latest fashion and trends
Range of products gone from 25 to over 100
Macron willingness to make us they flagship team swung it over 10-12 other makers
I reckon the checks will be on the home kit only.
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All sounds good really. Just wait and see what the gear is like when it comes out
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I hope they really do what they said they would and take supporters into consideration. The home kit needs to truly traditional. Some of the kits Marshall put together are brilliant and they could do a lot worse than looking at some of those. Those are traditional and it would bring back some good feeling amongst fans if the kits can relate back to some of our great days. Retro with a modern twist so to speak. I can like with a bit of variety for our away kit. Something different, and maybe a tradtional white or yellow third.
What is most important is that the fans don't get fucked around with the launch date and the quality. Nike treated us like bollocks in that regard. For Macron this is the first proper foray into English football's elite (West Ham aren't proper elite, we are). They won't want to mess this up. It's a big deal for them in growing their brand.
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I hope they really do what they said they would and take supporters into consideration. The home kit needs to truly traditional. Some of the kits Marshall put together are brilliant and they could do a lot worse than looking at some of those. Those are traditional and it would bring back some good feeling amongst fans if the kits can relate back to some of our great days. Retro with a modern twist so to speak. I can like with a bit of variety for our away kit. Something different, and maybe a tradtional white or yellow third.
What is most important is that the fans don't get fucked around with the launch date and the quality. Nike treated us like bollocks in that regard. For Macron this is the first proper foray into English football's elite (West Ham aren't proper elite, we are). They won't want to mess this up. It's a big deal for them in growing their brand.
A quote from John Greenfield
"I think our fans will be thrilled with the home kit. We have obviously held meetings with fans about what they wanted - and they have most-certainly got what they asked for, in my opinion.
Having made all the mock ups I have I know it is hard to get a design everyone will like
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At least we have a new kit manufacturer sorted out now.
Yep, it's a huge relief
Snigger.
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"It's fair to say they'll be doing a great deal for us. They are extending the range from 25 products to well in excess of 100. That's everything dual branded - Villa and Macron - real bespoke claret and blue products, from footballs to shinguards, wristbands to captain armbands, everything really.
"These will be exclusive to Villa. These are finer details we've never had before. It's an exciting new venture because this is going to be exclusive to Aston Villa."
People would really have rather stayed with Nike?
Crazy.
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They seem to have at least one very important quality that Nike lacked (for us) - enthusiasm.
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They are extending the range from 25 products to well in excess of 100. That's everything dual branded - Villa and Macron - real bespoke claret and blue products, from footballs to shinguards, wristbands to captain armbands, everything really.
Do you think they'll re-issue the "fibre filled cat igloos" that used to be on sale in The Village? They stopped selling them when we hooked up with Nike
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They seem to have at least one very important quality that Nike lacked (for us) - enthusiasm.
You wouldn't have to walk far to their nearest store either: Macron in Chelmsley (http://en.macron.com/Store-Locator).
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All very positive statements coming from the club and increasing the product range so far is very impressive. Looking forward to seeing the final designs.
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Mac and Ron – two great names from our glorious past.
Welcome back
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I hope they really do what they said they would and take supporters into consideration. The home kit needs to truly traditional. Some of the kits Marshall put together are brilliant and they could do a lot worse than looking at some of those. Those are traditional and it would bring back some good feeling amongst fans if the kits can relate back to some of our great days. Retro with a modern twist so to speak. I can like with a bit of variety for our away kit. Something different, and maybe a tradtional white or yellow third.
What is most important is that the fans don't get fucked around with the launch date and the quality. Nike treated us like bollocks in that regard. For Macron this is the first proper foray into English football's elite (West Ham aren't proper elite, we are). They won't want to mess this up. It's a big deal for them in growing their brand.
A quote from John Greenfield
"I think our fans will be thrilled with the home kit. We have obviously held meetings with fans about what they wanted - and they have most-certainly got what they asked for, in my opinion.
Does he mean Messi will be wearing it?
Having made all the mock ups I have I know it is hard to get a design everyone will like
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I hope they really do what they said they would and take supporters into consideration. The home kit needs to truly traditional. Some of the kits Marshall put together are brilliant and they could do a lot worse than looking at some of those. Those are traditional and it would bring back some good feeling amongst fans if the kits can relate back to some of our great days. Retro with a modern twist so to speak. I can like with a bit of variety for our away kit. Something different, and maybe a tradtional white or yellow third.
What is most important is that the fans don't get fucked around with the launch date and the quality. Nike treated us like bollocks in that regard. For Macron this is the first proper foray into English football's elite (West Ham aren't proper elite, we are). They won't want to mess this up. It's a big deal for them in growing their brand.
A quote from John Greenfield
"I think our fans will be thrilled with the home kit. We have obviously held meetings with fans about what they wanted - and they have most-certainly got what they asked for, in my opinion.
Having made all the mock ups I have I know it is hard to get a design everyone will like
For sure marshall, and the ones you've made, in my opinion are all very nice in their own way with a number of them being superb. If they have consulted fans that have an understanding of who we are then one would hope they will get something most of us will like.
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What I want the kit to look like and what it will look like if I designed it. It may have checks but I cannot see where we would put them unless it is the same as this season or last season.
(http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/9756/villarealcopy.png)
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Give West Ham white socks and we'll have blue socks.
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Marshall that is Superb, just maybe a slight tweak stick a thin blue line in the middle of the claret band on the sleeve. I know its too late but your designs should of been sent to Macron. I just hope the checks are gone, the last two kits have been awful because of them. I just hope these 'fans' that discussed the final design, are not the same fans who helped create the monstrosity of the Villa badge. We will be very disappointed if they are.
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The Villa badge was the sole creation of Mr. Lerner, Sir.
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Not a big fan of checks I have to say.
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The Villa badge was the sole creation of Mr. Lerner, Sir.
With the aid of a thoroughly democratic poll. Oh yes.
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Some Italian Facebookers' reaction to the news:
http://it-it.facebook.com/passionemagliecalcio/posts/174441495998581
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Some Italian Facebookers' reaction to the news:
http://it-it.facebook.com/passionemagliecalcio/posts/174441495998581
That's great! What does it say?
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The Villa badge was the sole creation of Mr. Lerner, Sir.
With the aid of a thoroughly democratic poll. Oh yes.
When you spend the amount he did on on the club he's allowed a couple of pet projects and up until the last 18 months it was the only thing I think he'd got wrong... now the badge is the least of our worries.
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Some Italian Facebookers' reaction to the news:
http://it-it.facebook.com/passionemagliecalcio/posts/174441495998581
That's great! What does it say?
Well, with the aid of Google translate, it's all very positive. I think some of the people are suggesting Lazio and Fiorentina might be signing up too (I might be wrong on that score).
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Some Italian Facebookers' reaction to the news:
http://it-it.facebook.com/passionemagliecalcio/posts/174441495998581
That's great! What does it say?
Questa sì che è una notizia! Speriamo che ci facciano fare una bella figura: l'Aston Villa è un club importante e non sarà facile fare meglio dei lavori Nike.
This means that is news! We hope that we will make a nice figure: Aston Villa is a major club and will not be easy to do better work Nike. (Translated by Bing)
And lots of other positive stuff, including a nod to the European Cup winners.
Grande Macron. Sarebbe bello se reinterpretassero le maglie dell'Aston Villa campione d'Europa esattamente 30 anni fa.
Great Macron. It would be nice if reinterpretassero Aston Villa shirts European champion exactly 30 years ago.
Mi fa piacere che Macron sia diventato sponsor tecnico dei Villans.
Macron ormai è il miglior brand italiano di sportswear
I'm glad that Macron has become the technical sponsor of Aston Villa.
Macron is the best Italian brand of sportswear.
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What I want the kit to look like and what it will look like if I designed it. It may have checks but I cannot see where we would put them unless it is the same as this season or last season.
(http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/9756/villarealcopy.png)
It looks to me like Macron have two types of cut to their tops. One is the loose fitting kind of top that Leeds, Sheff U etc. have. The kit they make for Napoli seems to be a bit more fitted - and, in my opinion, looks better for it. Is there any way you can knock up a mock kit with that fitted, continental kind of look? Thanks if you can.
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It looks to me like Macron have two types of cut to their tops. One is the loose fitting kind of top that Leeds, Sheff U etc. have. The kit they make for Napoli seems to be a bit more fitted - and, in my opinion, looks better for it. Is there any way you can knock up a mock kit with that fitted, continental kind of look? Thanks if you can.
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Can you imagine Dunne in a fitted skin tight shirt! He would be bursting at the seems!
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Give West Ham white socks and we'll have blue socks.
Royal blue?
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Some Italian Facebookers' reaction to the news:
http://it-it.facebook.com/passionemagliecalcio/posts/174441495998581
That's great! What does it say?
Well, with the aid of Google translate, it's all very positive. I think some of the people are suggesting Lazio and Fiorentina might be signing up too (I might be wrong on that score).
Pre-season tournament in Florence. Mmmmm.
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It looks to me like Macron have two types of cut to their tops. One is the loose fitting kind of top that Leeds, Sheff U etc. have. The kit they make for Napoli seems to be a bit more fitted - and, in my opinion, looks better for it. Is there any way you can knock up a mock kit with that fitted, continental kind of look? Thanks if you can.
Can you imagine Dunne in a fitted skin tight shirt! He would be bursting at the seems!
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Nah, they'll just give him the loose fit one, it would have the same effect on him as a tight fitted one on everyone else
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Not a big fan of checks I have to say.
I dislike Milan Baros as much as the next Villa fan, but you can't hate all of them surely?
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Putting things in to perspective; Adidas have just offered Liverpool significantly reduced terms due to their poor on field performance. I'm speculating but, in light of Liverpools world fan base and a recent European cup win, those terms would be far greater than we could negotiate with a top line manufacturer.
Like Under Armour, who Liverpool have just agreed a record deal with, Macron are trying to break the Uk market and will pay a premium to do so. Now I doubt they would have the required clout to do that with a Champions League regular so the next best thing would be a Villa or maybe Everton. If the money is good, the replicas well made and on time, and we're considered the flag ship team then I don't see the problem....it's just the name Macron sounds a bit shit and you'd likely be wedgied if you went to school in a pair of their trainers.
Liverpool have signed a big deal with Warrior Sports haven't they? Why would Adidas offer them anything, even reduced terms on that basis? Not sure where the Under Armour thing comes in either.
Sorry it's Spuds with under armour and Adidas valued Liverpool at significantly less than what Liverpool themselves thought they were worth. The point being that some were looking for us to bring in a big brand but what bargaining power do we have with such brands if Adidas don't believe Liverpool to be worth the money they are asking for? better just go for a relative unknown that wants to raise the profile of their brand with a Premier league side....for a reported record £15m deal.
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It looks to me like Macron have two types of cut to their tops. One is the loose fitting kind of top that Leeds, Sheff U etc. have. The kit they make for Napoli seems to be a bit more fitted - and, in my opinion, looks better for it. Is there any way you can knock up a mock kit with that fitted, continental kind of look? Thanks if you can.
Can you imagine Dunne in a fitted skin tight shirt! He would be bursting at the seems!
Nah, they'll just give him the loose fit one, it would have the same effect on him as a tight fitted one on everyone else
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I have a better solution, give Dunne another clubs shirt.
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I have a better solution, give Dunne another clubs shirt.
Absolutely, it'll be always too late when it'll happen.
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I think that the outfits that Nike made for us are awful. The shade of claret is not the proper Aston Villa claret, and the materials are very poor as the design.
Although my favourite kit manufacturer is Umbro, I think that Macron will bring a touch of Italian design and that will be a strong improvement. It's better to be the biggest fish in their small pool than a small fish in the Nike sea.
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'Macron' doesn't sound very Italian, is it an acronym?
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'Macron' doesn't sound very Italian, is it an acronym?
Maybe it's really 'Macroni'?
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Why do people give a shit about our kit manufacturer anyway? We should be looking at whoever can offer us the most money, anyone who thinks that the company that manufactures the shirt has direct relevance to club stature, or that it's important that we secure a sponsorship with a big-name company is woefully delusional.
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Maybe, if so it seems strange that a clothing company would choose to hide their Italian-ness.
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The deal with Nike was good for publicity, and - to my untrained eye - raised the profile of the club. I'm sure Macron is less prestigious by comparison.
I never buy them, so am not personally bothered too much, but I'd say that if your kit supplier repeatedly supplies you with kit late, in the case of last year practically Christmas, thus making a big dent in your profitability, whilst pissing off all the fans who want to go on their summer trips to Faliraki in the new shirt but can't, then you are very right to start fishing around for someone who'll at least let you flog the stuff when you want to.
Also, weren't the kits from Nike invariably some shite doled out to a crap French club a year before or something? And weren't they also off piss poor quality? I looked at some in the club shop, and to me they looked unbelievably flimsy.
The Nike training great always looked very smart, but were the shirts all that?
If we're now operating in more austere times and have to live within our means, cash in the bank from the shirt supplier is worth a lot more to us than clueless far east television fans being able to walk straight past our kit to buy their new Man United clobber in Nike World Hong Kong, surely?
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I think Nike were quite clever in that what you might think was 'flimsy' was marketed as 'lightweight to aid mobility'.
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Also, weren't the kits from Nike invariably some shite doled out to a crap French club a year before or something?
I'm absolutely certain that the classic (which I didn't like but never mind) string round the neck Umbro job from 1992-93 was also Napoli's third kit.
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Didn't Ipswich also have that kit design too...
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Also, weren't the kits from Nike invariably some shite doled out to a crap French club a year before or something?
I'm absolutely certain that the classic (which I didn't like but never mind) string round the neck Umbro job from 1992-93 was also Napoli's third kit.
I definitely remember someone in Serie A wearing the same kit.
I used to love that kit at the time, but recently found a photo of myself wearing it, and thought actually, it was pretty horrible.
mind you, it could have been the sight of myself, about 5 stone lighter and 20 years younger that was really getting to me
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The deal with Nike was good for publicity, and - to my untrained eye - raised the profile of the club. I'm sure Macron is less prestigious by comparison.
I never buy them, so am not personally bothered too much, but I'd say that if your kit supplier repeatedly supplies you with kit late, in the case of last year practically Christmas, thus making a big dent in your profitability, whilst pissing off all the fans who want to go on their summer trips to Faliraki in the new shirt but can't, then you are very right to start fishing around for someone who'll at least let you flog the stuff when you want to.
Also, weren't the kits from Nike invariably some shite doled out to a crap French club a year before or something? And weren't they also off piss poor quality? I looked at some in the club shop, and to me they looked unbelievably flimsy.
The Nike training great always looked very smart, but were the shirts all that?
If we're now operating in more austere times and have to live within our means, cash in the bank from the shirt supplier is worth a lot more to us than clueless far east television fans being able to walk straight past our kit to buy their new Man United clobber in Nike World Hong Kong, surely?
Agreed, if anything Macron will likely be efficient and spend a lot of time on the design and delivery with our kit, as I'd like to believe we're one of their biggest clients and they won't want to lose us.
If anyone's interested, here's a list of the teams sponsored by Macron: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macron_(sportswear)
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Maybe it's short for macaroni?
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We had that already but it bears repeating.
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Sorry didn't see it. Saw Macroni but I thought that was perhaps something significant I'd never heard of.
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mind you, it could have been the sight of myself, about 5 stone lighter and 20 years younger that was really getting to me
Jeepers. Here's me fretting because I put a stone on! :-)
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mind you, it could have been the sight of myself, about 5 stone lighter and 20 years younger that was really getting to me
Jeepers. Here's me fretting because I put a stone on! :-)
I always thought Paulie's friends called him Queenie (for obvious reasons) but in fact it's Quinnie.
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Maybe it's short for macaroni?
That's pasta joke now.
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Looking forward to the new kit, I think they'll do a far far better job than swoosh.
A yellow and blue away kit please, wouldn't that be so retro.
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I definitely remember someone in Serie A wearing the same kit.
Think it was Parma.
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I definitely remember someone in Serie A wearing the same kit.
Ham struggling to find this ;)
Think it was Parma.
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Didn't Ipswich also have that kit design too...
And Sheff Utd, Chelsea away...
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Here are the Parma (http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/european-clubs/italian-clubs/serie-a-clubs/parma/1993-95-parma-away-shirt-10-xl.html), Ipswich Town (http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/other-uk-clubs/championship/ipswich/1992-93-ipswich-player-issue-home-shirt-xl.html), Sheffiled United (http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/other-uk-clubs/league-one/sheffield-united/1992-94-sheffield-united-home-shirt-l-67746.html), and Chelsea (http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/premiership-clubs/chelsea/1992-94-chelsea-away-shirt-l-68904.html) shirts.
Only the Parma one is a direct copy of our shirt - its clear that Umbro designed the round band around the laced collar for us, directly influenced by our historic shirts, and this template was used later by Parma. There was obviously a small fashion for these retro laced collar shirts at the time, which can probably be traced back to Sparta Prague's adidas shirt of around '91, which got a lot of exposure in European games.
As for Macron. I like Napoli's more fitted European shirt, but their other ones look pretty shoddy to me, as do the Leeds and West Ham shirts. Their logo is pretty hideous for a brand that claims to evoke 'Italian style', and its the extensive use of it on the later shirts is the main problem. The Napoli European one looks like it has had a bit more attention to its styling, and hopefully this is what we can expect also.
I agree that we were messed around by Nike, and have done the right thing in looking elsewhere - for self-respect as much as anything else. I can't help thinking that one of the fundamental problems regardless of supplier will remain the fact that we release a new shirt every season. It means that a lot of people like me are unlikely to bother buying the shirt at all. I'd rather have an older shirt than try to be up-to-date, when I'll have so little opportunity to get any use out of it. After all, I'm only likely to wear it either to a game or when doing sport myself.
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It just hit me right now, but I think we are approaching this all wrong.
While I'm actually a bit excited to see what the tops look like after all of these decent mock-ups, what is the club shop going to be in for? I can't imagine Macron products are going to be flying off the shelves, much like Nike products do now. Nike is an easy name/brand to sell to the masses, Macron however is a whole other story. I wonder if astonvilladirect is predicting low sales for next campaign. The wide range and extensive variety of fashion that Nike provides is immense. Will Macron even have enough material to stock the shelves? I'm nervous this could hurt our financial situation even more, given that retail earnings and international brand recognition is worth tons of money in modern day football.
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If you want a new villa shirt you will buy one whether its Nike or Macron
Are you saying that people buy a shirt because its Nike ? You wouldnt buy a Bham City shirt just because they were supplied by Nike would you ?
Think theres been a bit of a hysterical and irrational reaction to this announcement, for petes sake the club hasnt even launched the shirt yet and people are getting them selves into a mindset that they will not like it whatever it looks like based on the manufacturers name.
For goodness sake .... Get off the clubs back a little and give them chance.
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If you want a new villa shirt you will buy one whether its Nike or Macron
Are you saying that people buy a shirt because its Nike ? You wouldnt buy a Bham City shirt just because they were supplied by Nike would you ?
Think theres been a bit of a hysterical and irrational reaction to this announcement, for petes sake the club hasnt even launched the shirt yet and people are getting them selves into a mindset that they will not like it whatever it looks like based on the manufacturers name.
For goodness sake .... Get off the clubs back a little and give them chance.
Exactly. It doesn't matter who makes it , as long as it looks decent.
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If you want a new villa shirt you will buy one whether its Nike or Macron
Are you saying that people buy a shirt because its Nike ? You wouldnt buy a Bham City shirt just because they were supplied by Nike would you ?
Think theres been a bit of a hysterical and irrational reaction to this announcement, for petes sake the club hasnt even launched the shirt yet and people are getting them selves into a mindset that they will not like it whatever it looks like based on the manufacturers name.
For goodness sake .... Get off the clubs back a little and give them chance.
If I remember rightly we had record shirt sales when our first Nike kits were released. How do you explain that?
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So a new billionaire owner, a then respected manager, big money being spent and a massive feel good factor with the club had nothing to do with it, just the name of the shirt manufacturer.
TBH Macron is the shirt equivalent of McCleish. Taking over from a big name, that in reality were not very good for us, and with the club in decline, but they will be blamed exclusively for poor performances compared to previous incumbents.
But if they do have some responsibility themselves and can't do the short equivalent of starting with Heskey. (poor design)
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If you want a new villa shirt you will buy one whether its Nike or Macron
Are you saying that people buy a shirt because its Nike ? You wouldnt buy a Bham City shirt just because they were supplied by Nike would you ?
Think theres been a bit of a hysterical and irrational reaction to this announcement, for petes sake the club hasnt even launched the shirt yet and people are getting them selves into a mindset that they will not like it whatever it looks like based on the manufacturers name.
For goodness sake .... Get off the clubs back a little and give them chance.
If I remember rightly we had record shirt sales when our first Nike kits were released. How do you explain that?
Simple ... The club was on the crest of a wave .... New owners new manager doing relatively well ...attendances over 40k....investment in the club ...improvements around the ground Wembley appearances European football.....id have expected record shirt sales if primark were the supplier !
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If you want a new villa shirt you will buy one whether its Nike or Macron
Are you saying that people buy a shirt because its Nike ? You wouldnt buy a Bham City shirt just because they were supplied by Nike would you ?
Think theres been a bit of a hysterical and irrational reaction to this announcement, for petes sake the club hasnt even launched the shirt yet and people are getting them selves into a mindset that they will not like it whatever it looks like based on the manufacturers name.
For goodness sake .... Get off the clubs back a little and give them chance.
If I remember rightly we had record shirt sales when our first Nike kits were released. How do you explain that?
Simple ... The club was on the crest of a wave .... New owners new manager doing relatively well ...attendances over 40k....investment in the club ...improvements around the ground Wembley appearances European football.....id have expected record shirt sales if primark were the supplier !
Getting Nike was a major part of that crest of a wave. Only time will tell, but I'm convinced our shirt sales will suffer because of Macron's involvement.
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Major part? Really? It was about as important to me as the electronic ad boards around the side of the pitch, or the renovation of the holte hotel. Nice to have, but insignificant compared to success (or at least the potential for success) on the field.
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Major part? Really? It was about as important to me as the electronic ad boards around the side of the pitch, or the renovation of the holte hotel. Nice to have, but insignificant compared to success (or at least the potential for success) on the field.
I think having a decent kit is a major importance to a club. It is in fact what the players play in after all. Much more important than electronic ad boards etc.
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Ah now you see, that's a different argument. Having a decent kit and having a big name kit manufacturer are two very different things.
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Ah now you see, that's a different argument. Having a decent kit and having a big name kit manufacturer are two very different things.
But the big name manufacturer usually make the better kits. Looking at Macron's efforts don't fill me with much confidence. They mainly provide non league teams in this country. Hope they prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
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Well if we keep insisting having the checks it doesn't matter who makes the kits.
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Well if we keep insisting having the checks it doesn't matter who makes the kits.
The checks are an abomination.
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
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And what about the jacket?
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
Fat Sam would ruin the look of tailor made Armani suit
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I think we'd all welcome Adidas or Puma, but PF & Co. did the deal with Marcon.
Let's just hope that Marcon deliver, and not just in the logistical sense either.
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
The Nike training gear looked great but the quality was poor. I generally buy a polo shirt for the summer and most years they shrank.
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
The Nike training gear looked great but the quality was poor. I generally buy a polo shirt for the summer and most years they shrank.
I think this years was the worst. I left with very few items from my annual pilgrimage to the club shop this year. The kit the year we spanked the noses and had Acorns on the front was very good quality. They've created nothing as nice since in my opinion.
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
The Nike training gear looked great but the quality was poor. I generally buy a polo shirt for the summer and most years they shrank.
I don't think Nike ever made our casual wear, only the training wear, which was generally very smart.
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I agree, this season's shirts are ghastly. I'll be interested to see what the new supplier comes up with.
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
The Nike training gear looked great but the quality was poor. I generally buy a polo shirt for the summer and most years they shrank.
I don't think Nike ever made our casual wear, only the training wear, which was generally very smart.
I had a couple of Nike Polo shirts both of which shrank. I think they labelled them "players match wear".
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I agree, this season's shirts are ghastly. I'll be interested to see what the new supplier comes up with.
I agree this season's shirt isn't good, but that's more to do with those awful checks that Lerner has inflicted onto us.
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
The Nike training gear looked great but the quality was poor. I generally buy a polo shirt for the summer and most years they shrank.
I don't think Nike ever made our casual wear, only the training wear, which was generally very smart.
I don't know about this year but they used to do a similar leisure wear across the board with appropriate team badges on. Definitely remember red and black shirts with thin white lines on them.
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Our Nike kits never really looked particularly smart (last seasons were horrible) but all the other stuff Nike supplied - training gear, jackets etc - always looked very smart, I thought.
I saw Fat Sam interviewed the other day in his Macron training jacket and it looked like something from down the rag market.
The Nike training gear looked great but the quality was poor. I generally buy a polo shirt for the summer and most years they shrank.
I don't think Nike ever made our casual wear, only the training wear, which was generally very smart.
I don't know about this year but they used to do a similar leisure wear across the board with appropriate team badges on. Definitely remember red and black shirts with thin white lines on them.
Just had a look and there's definitely a Nike polo shirt for sale. There's lots of other Villa clothing for sale but it's not Nike. Any idea who produces that?
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Ah now you see, that's a different argument. Having a decent kit and having a big name kit manufacturer are two very different things.
But the big name manufacturer usually make the better kits. Looking at Macron's efforts don't fill me with much confidence. They mainly provide non league teams in this country. Hope they prove me wrong, but I doubt it.
Apart from nike of course, whose corporate branding is more important than delivering a design unique to the club and so each year their stable sees one generic design remodelled for each team 'lucky' enough to be granted their patronage.
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If you want a new villa shirt you will buy one whether its Nike or Macron
Are you saying that people buy a shirt because its Nike ? You wouldnt buy a Bham City shirt just because they were supplied by Nike would you ?
Think theres been a bit of a hysterical and irrational reaction to this announcement, for petes sake the club hasnt even launched the shirt yet and people are getting them selves into a mindset that they will not like it whatever it looks like based on the manufacturers name.
For goodness sake .... Get off the clubs back a little and give them chance.
You totally misinterpreted me.
It's more than just the shirt. It's clothing, rain gear, replica gear, balls and equipment, outdoor supplies.. Nike is huge. You obviously didn't read my post carefully enough.
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We have to face some facts. Nike will only chase blue chip accounts like ManUre & Arsenal. We could have a Nike kit, but it would be an off-the-peg design like any Sunday league side could get from an approved trader. Walsall did this years ago. This might make many of you happy to keep the 'swoosh' on our shirts, but I for one want to have something with a little more substance.
Look what's happening now. Where are your Nike, Umbro & Adidas next year? Liverpool will wear kit from Warrior, the same guy who runs Liverpool also owns Warrior. Spurs are going to Under Armour. Will Umbro stick with Blackeye Rovers if they go down? Forest only retained Umbro on signing a 10 year mega-deal when in the Prem.
Villa said they spoke to 20 companies, & if you list 20 sportswear companies you know, Macron would come pretty high on that list with some scary names below it - Burrda, Admiral, Cabrini, Fila...
I for one an please to see Villa boldy plumb for a new brand. It could have been easy to go back to Le Coq or Hummel which would have suited the dewey eyed amongst us. It managed correctly the design will be sympathetic to our history, & we'll have a bigger range of non-playing wear. Forza Macron!
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I've only had 2replica shirts in the last 15 years or so, the England shirt for the 2010 world cup by Umbro and the Villa home shirt before this one. The England shirt feels like quality and is smart and comfortable to wear. The Villa shirt is piss poor in design and quality by comparison. Nike were goo d for publicity but apart from the plus point that they have stuck to claret body and blue sleeves, the design has generally been very staid and the quality and service both appalling. Glad to see the back of them. Like MArshall's designs but the shade of claret is a bit too dark and "West Ham" in all of them.
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Nike - good riddance IMO. Poor quality products outside of the main kit and training kits. You could easily tell a lot of the stock in the Shop is just standard Nike sportswear with our badge shoddily sewed on. The fact that we put up with it for 4 years was 2 years too long IMO with all the issues on delivery and staid design.
You know what I think most peoples problem with Macron is? The name, it just sounds second rate, however lets hope they can bring some of the renowned Italian design flair to proceedings and people give them a chance to develop into this opportunity.
Dare I also say that for all the criticism Faulkner gets he's pulled off a better deal here than we had before improving the income of the club. I know its only a small part of his duties but credit where its due.
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Yes, and for the Genting deal too.
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Yes, and for the Genting deal too.
Yep the Genting deal too. We're still too far behind on commercial income from Spurs but these improvements need to be borne in mind when set against the slightly less flattering board performance when it comes to football decisions!!
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If the leaked photos of Barca's Arsenal's and Man Utd's shirts are genuine. Then I'm glad we've gone to Macron, they are awful.
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I'm not sure I like the ITK that our shirts will be "interesting".
Hopefully "interesting" doesn't mean hideous.
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I'm not sure I like the ITK that our shirts will be "interesting".
Hopefully "interesting" doesn't mean hideous.
What ITK is this?
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37 pages? none of this will matter if we win a few games next season.
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Macron aside (I'll see what they're like, even tough a friends Leeds top's material is shit).
It's a sad day when WBA & Stoke can attract Adidas and we can't.
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Macron aside (I'll see what they're like, even tough a friends Leeds top's material is shit).
It's a sad day when WBA & Stoke can attract Adidas and we can't.
Why is it? We've got the best kit deal we've ever had; what more do you want?
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WBA and Stoke didn't attract Adidas though.
They went to Adidas and said "Please can you make us a kit, Mr Adidas?"
Mr Adidas said: "Certainly. It will cost you x amount."
Macron -whatever you may think of them- are paying US for the assocation.
And they're paying more than 3 times the amount Nike were, apparently.
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I'm not knocking the deal itself, that's great news. But "if" the end result is tat, then people will vote with their feet.
This is the CURRENT Leeds &V West Ham Leisure Polo's. Its terrible.
(http://www.lufcsuperstore.com/admin/uploads/products/large/75_POLM14WH.jpg)
(http://www.officialwesthamstore.com/filedepository/productimages/macrontrainingrange/thumbnails/kidblkclarettrainingpolypolofront_800_500_110801032339.jpg)
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I'm not knocking the deal itself, that's great news. But "if" the end result is tat, then [people will vote with their feet.
This is the CURRENT Leeds Leisure Polo. Its terrible.
(http://www.lufcsuperstore.com/productdetails.asp?parent_id=60&sub_id=62&product_id=1667)
Judging by what Nike gave us, we're just as likely to get tat whatever the company. At least this one will be available on time.
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I'll admit I haven't been overly impressed with most of Macron's output - Napoli aside.
But the Napoli away kit and the lack of that weird Special Olympics logo on the the current Leeds home kit gives me some faith that they might up their game with us.
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I'll admit I haven't been overly impressed with most of Macron's output - Napoli aside.
But the Napoli away kit and the lack of that weird Special Olympics logo on the the current Leeds home kit gives me some faith that they might up their game with us.
I hope so. Nike have been poor but I haven't been impressed with what I've seen of Macron so far. That said, it's a good deal financially.
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I hope the Home kit is just plain. Leave the away for an interesting design.
Something like this for the home
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3077/villaplain.png)
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That's very good.
You're hired!
Unfortunately, I reckon the real one will have sodding checks on it.
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Re. the 'interesting design', that's what the club says, a traditional one for home and an interesting one for away !
Who on here would like a yellow and blue away strip ?
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37 page fashion-victim thread.
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Re. the 'interesting design', that's what the club says, a traditional one for home and an interesting one for away !
Who on here would like a yellow and blue away strip ?
Yes please. I often wear my retro yellow and blue shirt.
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I've only had 2replica shirts in the last 15 years or so, the England shirt for the 2010 world cup by Umbro and the Villa home shirt before this one. The England shirt feels like quality and is smart and comfortable to wear. The Villa shirt is piss poor in design and quality by comparison. Nike were goo d for publicity but apart from the plus point that they have stuck to claret body and blue sleeves, the design has generally been very staid and the quality and service both appalling. Glad to see the back of them. Like MArshall's designs but the shade of claret is a bit too dark and "West Ham" in all of them.
Funnily enough, I have only bought two aswell. The same England one as you, and the Villa kit we had in 08/09 season. Both in long sleeves.
I love them both. The England one is extremely good quality and very smart. Umbro do a similar job I beleive with Man City, and I think a Villa shirt made in the style of the England one would be an all time classic.
The Villa one was the best we got from Nike. The first year we had Acorns on the shirt. Great quality, fit and look.
The other Nike ones haven't been anywhere near as good, and have had problems with them.
I probably wont be buying the Macron one, not because of who they are, but because I rarely wear replica shirts.
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I'm not knocking the deal itself, that's great news. But "if" the end result is tat, then people will vote with their feet.
This is the CURRENT Leeds &V West Ham Leisure Polo's. Its terrible.
(http://www.lufcsuperstore.com/admin/uploads/products/large/75_POLM14WH.jpg)
(http://www.officialwesthamstore.com/filedepository/productimages/macrontrainingrange/thumbnails/kidblkclarettrainingpolypolofront_800_500_110801032339.jpg)
Yuck! They're like something you'd pick up down the rag market. Let's hope we pressure Macron into producing something better.
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Did'nt realise we had so many fashion experts down VP.
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Did'nt realise we had so many fashion experts down VP.
They don't show it on matchdays I must say, well the H&V salesmen don't :)
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Mac always used to sport some snazzy claret and blue pumps though.
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Still wearing those awful shoes Tim?
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Still wearing those awful shoes Tim?
Of course, you NEED some !!
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I prefer my feet to look in proportion to my body, thanks all the same Claude.
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The Napoli kit looks okay to me. However I am unlikely to buy anything so probably not the target market.
I seem to buy a pair of gloves and a scarf each year.
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The Napoli kit looks okay to me. However I am unlikely to buy anything so probably not the target market.
I seem to buy a pair of gloves and a scarf each year.
I quite like the Napoli template and color scheme. I think we'd look sharp.
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Like the attacking football as well !!
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Away kit based on the Napoli home kit
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/886/villanapoli.png)
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Not so sure about that one. Prefer white, yellow or black. In that order.
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Not so sure about that one. Prefer white, yellow or black. In that order.
Had about 50 replies on twitter and other forums and you are the first not to like it fully. It has been said the away will be different so maybe it wont be a colour we have had before.
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Hearing aid beige?
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Yer what?
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Ay ?
How about invalid car blue as our away kit ?
Would suit some of our players .....
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Speak up I can't hear at the back!
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I prefer my feet to look in proportion to my body, thanks all the same Claude.
What do you wear ?
http://tiny.cc/ue6ik
These are typical JW.
I do like the Napoli kit, but we need the strikers to go with it !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezequiel_Lavezzi
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I hope the Home kit is just plain. Leave the away for an interesting design.
Something like this for the home
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3077/villaplain.png)
I like that, very nice.
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Can't click on your links Tim but ha ha anyway.
Clark's desert boots and Lacoste mainly BTW.
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Can't click on your links Tim but ha ha anyway.
Clark's desert boots and Lacoste mainly BTW.
Clark's ? I wore them as a kid, so NO WAY !!
I reckon next season's kits are already decided, so resistance is futile !
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The only issue I have prior to seeing anything from Macron are those intrusive shoulder logos. Marshall's home kit is superb (almost 1966 vintage) but slap a couple of their logos an each shoulder and anything'll start to look a mess.
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Away kit based on the Napoli home kit
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/886/villanapoli.png)
That looks like a West Ham kit to me.
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Clarks' desert boots are without doubt cool as feck!!!
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Well said The Adventurer. They are truly the Lionel Messi of footwear. Fortunately they remain very much the preserve of people with impeccable taste in matters sartorial, which thankfully limits their popularity amongst the lower orders.
'Dear reminders of who I am,
The very roots upon which I stand'.
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I've got a sneaky feeling the Macron kits will be a pleasant surprise. Napoli's and West Ham's don't look too bad.
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Can't click on your links Tim but ha ha anyway.
Clark's desert boots and Lacoste mainly BTW.
Those desert boots do look good mind, got to say.
Are they for the 'over 40's' mind ? !!
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Well, I'm over forty but not necessarily, no.
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Well, I'm over forty but not necessarily, no.
I think I'll get a pair and some low hanging chinos :)
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Yes, I think you probably will.
*sigh*
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I saw a junior school team and their teacher wearing macron kits today for after-school training...and yes, I asked him! Verdict - best kits for ever. Not so much the price but the quality and comfort. So now you know.
I didn't ask the kids but a few of them overheard and said they liked wearing them because they were comfortable, stylish and they looked impressive as a team. But not exactly in those words.
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I saw a junior school team and their teacher wearing macron kits today for after-school training...and yes, I asked him! Verdict - best kits for ever. Not so much the price but the quality and comfort. So now you know.
I didn't ask the kids but a few of them overheard and said they liked wearing them because they were comfortable, stylish and they looked impressive as a team. But not exactly in those words.
I coach youth football and the club has Macron kit/training wear - top notch in my view and when I did my latest coaching badge the two FA tutors (one ex-Southampton academy head and the other ex-Bristol City academy head) said it was quality stuff.
... just saying, so could/should be good.
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I saw a junior school team and their teacher wearing macron kits today for after-school training...and yes, I asked him! Verdict - best kits for ever. Not so much the price but the quality and comfort. So now you know.
I didn't ask the kids but a few of them overheard and said they liked wearing them because they were comfortable, stylish and they looked impressive as a team. But not exactly in those words.
You mean none of them refused to wear it as it wasn't Nike? How old were these children? I need to ascertain the mental age of some contributors on this thread, you see.
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Kids: at a guess about 7 - 8 years old, and the teacher was about 37-42.
Always glad to help a fellow H&Van. UTV!
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will macron be doing a nice shiney shellsuit ;D
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will macron be doing a nice shiney shellsuit ;D
Would you like one?
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Everton sign Nike deal (http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/03/29/blues-team-up-with-nike)
Everton Football Club today confirms it has signed a three-year deal with global sportswear giant Nike.
Nike, whose existing portfolio of clubs includes Manchester United, Barcelona and Arsenal, will take over from Le Coq Sportif on Everton’s royal blue jersey for the 2012/13 season.
The sports giant will be the official and recognised technical partner on all of Everton’s match kits, which will go on sale later this summer.
The new kit sponsorship deal, negotiated in close collaboration with the Club’s retail and merchandise partner Kitbag, represents Nike’s first association with Everton and will allow the Blues the opportunity to extend their retail opportunities.
Along with the exclusively designed kits for the 2012/13 campaign, Nike will also produce the Club’s official training wear and a Nike Pro Combat range.
Chief Executive Robert Elstone said: “Following all the speculation of the past few months, we are delighted to confirm that Everton is about to kick-off a new, three-year partnership with the world’s leading sportswear brand.
“We’re all excited by the prospect of working with Nike’s design, marketing and retailing teams and look forward to seeing some impressive, original kits and products, as well as being on hand to take advantage of new retail opportunities that we’ll be working with Kitbag to drive forward.
“Nike has an impeccable reputation and we are confident that our supporters will be excited by the new partnership, with all of us looking forward to seeing our new home shirt this summer.”
Marc Van Pappelendam, VP/GM of Nike UK & Ireland, said: “We at Nike are delighted to be entering into this partnership with Everton – they’re a prestigious Club with an illustrious history and we’re looking forward to equipping the team with their playing and training kits.
“Evertonians are renowned for their passion and we are excited about showcasing this in Everton’s range for 2012/13.”
Andy Anson, CEO of Kitbag, added: “We are absolutely delighted to be working with Nike as they become the official partner of Everton. This historic Club deserves to be with the best possible partners and there is no-one more appropriate than Nike.
“We are incredibly excited to be working with the Club and Nike together to create exciting new kits and other sports and fashion products which we hope Everton fans will be proud to wear.”
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Everton sign Nike deal (http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/03/29/blues-team-up-with-nike)
Everton Football Club today confirms it has signed a three-year deal with global sportswear giant Nike.
Nike, whose existing portfolio of clubs includes Manchester United, Barcelona and Arsenal, will take over from Le Coq Sportif on Everton’s royal blue jersey for the 2012/13 season.
The sports giant will be the official and recognised technical partner on all of Everton’s match kits, which will go on sale later this summer.
The new kit sponsorship deal, negotiated in close collaboration with the Club’s retail and merchandise partner Kitbag, represents Nike’s first association with Everton and will allow the Blues the opportunity to extend their retail opportunities.
Along with the exclusively designed kits for the 2012/13 campaign, Nike will also produce the Club’s official training wear and a Nike Pro Combat range.
Chief Executive Robert Elstone said: “Following all the speculation of the past few months, we are delighted to confirm that Everton is about to kick-off a new, three-year partnership with the world’s leading sportswear brand.
“We’re all excited by the prospect of working with Nike’s design, marketing and retailing teams and look forward to seeing some impressive, original kits and products, as well as being on hand to take advantage of new retail opportunities that we’ll be working with Kitbag to drive forward.
“Nike has an impeccable reputation and we are confident that our supporters will be excited by the new partnership, with all of us looking forward to seeing our new home shirt this summer.”
Marc Van Pappelendam, VP/GM of Nike UK & Ireland, said: “We at Nike are delighted to be entering into this partnership with Everton – they’re a prestigious Club with an illustrious history and we’re looking forward to equipping the team with their playing and training kits.
“Evertonians are renowned for their passion and we are excited about showcasing this in Everton’s range for 2012/13.”
Andy Anson, CEO of Kitbag, added: “We are absolutely delighted to be working with Nike as they become the official partner of Everton. This historic Club deserves to be with the best possible partners and there is no-one more appropriate than Nike.
“We are incredibly excited to be working with the Club and Nike together to create exciting new kits and other sports and fashion products which we hope Everton fans will be proud to wear.”
So, no mention of Villa as a current client.
And - Everton will presumably get as little retail distribution as we did!
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I predict Everton's kits will be ready to buy in shops by Christmas 2020 then.
Nike = Useless bunch of wankers.
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"The sports giant will be the official and recognised technical partner on all of Everton’s match kits, which will go on sale later this summer"
Hmmmm. Sounds familiar.
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Everton sign Nike deal (http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archive/2012/03/29/blues-team-up-with-nike)
Everton Football Club today confirms it has signed a three-year deal with global sportswear giant Nike.
Nike, whose existing portfolio of clubs includes Manchester United, Barcelona and Arsenal, will take over from Le Coq Sportif on Everton’s royal blue jersey for the 2012/13 season.
The sports giant will be the official and recognised technical partner on all of Everton’s match kits, which will go on sale later this summer.
The new kit sponsorship deal, negotiated in close collaboration with the Club’s retail and merchandise partner Kitbag, represents Nike’s first association with Everton and will allow the Blues the opportunity to extend their retail opportunities.
Along with the exclusively designed kits for the 2012/13 campaign, Nike will also produce the Club’s official training wear and a Nike Pro Combat range.
Chief Executive Robert Elstone said: “Following all the speculation of the past few months, we are delighted to confirm that Everton is about to kick-off a new, three-year partnership with the world’s leading sportswear brand.
“We’re all excited by the prospect of working with Nike’s design, marketing and retailing teams and look forward to seeing some impressive, original kits and products, as well as being on hand to take advantage of new retail opportunities that we’ll be working with Kitbag to drive forward.
“Nike has an impeccable reputation and we are confident that our supporters will be excited by the new partnership, with all of us looking forward to seeing our new home shirt this summer.”
Marc Van Pappelendam, VP/GM of Nike UK & Ireland, said: “We at Nike are delighted to be entering into this partnership with Everton – they’re a prestigious Club with an illustrious history and we’re looking forward to equipping the team with their playing and training kits.
“Evertonians are renowned for their passion and we are excited about showcasing this in Everton’s range for 2012/13.”
Andy Anson, CEO of Kitbag, added: “We are absolutely delighted to be working with Nike as they become the official partner of Everton. This historic Club deserves to be with the best possible partners and there is no-one more appropriate than Nike.
“We are incredibly excited to be working with the Club and Nike together to create exciting new kits and other sports and fashion products which we hope Everton fans will be proud to wear.”
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I've actually like Everton's last couple of shirts with Le Coq Sportif. The current one is smart and last season's harked back to their mid-80's halcyon days.
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I know we are going with macron now but Le Coq Sportif would have been great, just think of the retro range we would have had!
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I've actually like Everton's last couple of shirts with Le Coq Sportif. The current one is smart and last season's harked back to their mid-80's halcyon days.
But the away ones and the GK's were complete nightmares.
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Thank heavens we're not with Nike any longer.
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/leaked-arsenal-nike-home-shirt-201213_15051
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God that's awful
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Yep, rubbish.
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I like it. Reminds me if the 90s
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It looks like a nasty NASL "soccer" shirt that Rodney Marsh would wear!
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I like it. Reminds me if the 90s
All that's missing is the "JVC"
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I know we are going with macron now but Le Coq Sportif would have been great, just think of the retro range we would have had!
i think the didier six kit was one of the best we ever had. i also loved the one with thin yellow and claret and hoops.
if anyone knows how to do piccy thing feel free please!
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Bullet dodged it would seem.
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Utter toss.
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Wasn't worth making a new thread, but am I right in thinking at the end of every season the Villa put all the remaining stock of that years merchandise for sale at Villa Village really cheap?
All the stuff left over from training, boots etc too?
If so, any idea what sort of date it will be? Some of the Nike stuff was really nice and I'd like to get a bit as it'll no doubt be 'retro' in a few years. Wouldn't mind some boots/shorts on the cheap either.
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They have been flogging off anything with Nike on for at least a couple of weeks.
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There'll be the white tent outside the club shop at the end of the season, I'm sure.
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There'll be the white tent outside the club shop at the end of the season, I'm sure.
Richard Dunne's away shirt?
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Its already started, I bought some shirts and shorts for a about a tenner, the players training stuff goes on sale obv after the last training session. The boots aren't usually particualarly cheap though given their condition.
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I've always had a problem with the ex-player kit stuff. Alan Wright XXL shirts? I think it's just a marketing ploy.
I use for bed, 5-a-side or rugby a pair of Reebok blue away shorts, no 29 - apparently Michael Standing's. He wasn't 6 Ft 5, 19 stone with a 42' waist.
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If got a 'COWS' training top with 6 on it, Gareth Barry wasn't as fat as I thought.
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I have got Phil Bardsley's away shorts somewhere.
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I watched both Leeds and West Ham playing away this weekend. Both use Macron.
The Leeds black kit with dayglo lime green trim is bloody awful.
At least the WH kit was a nod to the clubs colours and to their past, I'm sure the likes of Brooking and Bonds played in a similar strip in the 80's.
For us it has to be either all white with claret trim or a real nod to the past with a yellow with blue trim shirt as seen elsewhere in this thread.
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I coach youth football and the club has Macron kit/training wear - top notch in my view and when I did my latest coaching badge the two FA tutors (one ex-Southampton academy head and the other ex-Bristol City academy head) said it was quality stuff.
Same here - our coaches stuff and all our boys kit have been Macron for the last few years. Seems reasonable enough to me.
That Southampton guy - not Nigel Quincey by any chance?
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Napoli retain Macron - with Lazio rumoured to follow. They're not sticking around.
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/napoli-extend-deal-with-macron-for-another-3-years_15077
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I coach youth football and the club has Macron kit/training wear - top notch in my view and when I did my latest coaching badge the two FA tutors (one ex-Southampton academy head and the other ex-Bristol City academy head) said it was quality stuff.
Same here - our coaches stuff and all our boys kit have been Macron for the last few years. Seems reasonable enough to me.
That Southampton guy - not Nigel Quincey by any chance?
Huw Jennings would be my guess..He was in charge of saints acadamy, i know he left there to take up a job with the FA,
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CT and DaveVillan, it was Nigel Quincey - good bloke and a top coach. Clear about what he wanted, calm in approach and above all kept it simple.
I think he is a 'freelance' coach rather than on the payroll with the FA.
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Nigel was a top man on my Level 1 - I really enjoyed working with him. He certainly liked to mention his involvment with Gareth Bale at Southampton just once or twice!
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Nigel was a top man on my Level 1 - I really enjoyed working with him. He certainly liked to mention his involvment with Gareth Bale at Southampton just once or twice!
He took the level 2 course I did, and certainly Gareth Bale got a few mentions (!) but still a top man as you say.
He was often quite critical of the academy system and the requirement to travel for several hours (early mornings or late in the evening) to play against another academy side just because we have a fascination with testing players in a competitive match to work out who is best - rather than work with a group to get them to improve. Makes sense.
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Saw a Nike t- shirt earlier in th store in town that was made by Nike, it had a Print of a scarf around the neck and chest with 'villains' written on it. Everything else in there has 'villans'. Lazy fuckers.
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Saw a Nike t- shirt earlier in th store in town that was made by Nike, it had a Print of a scarf around the neck and chest with 'villains' written on it. Everything else in there has 'villans'. Lazy fuckers.
Which is correct tho? Just look to the top of the page at the website name "Heroes & Villains", it could be that Nike are right and the others wrong
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Saw a Nike t- shirt earlier in th store in town that was made by Nike, it had a Print of a scarf around the neck and chest with 'villains' written on it. Everything else in there has 'villans'. Lazy fuckers.
Which is correct tho? Just look to the top of the page at the website name "Heroes & Villains", it could be that Nike are right and the others wrong
Lazy because they have left the i out. The correct spelling is Villain, but past habits have been to leave the i out.
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(http://i45.tinypic.com/160z9ms.jpg)
(http://i45.tinypic.com/j5b9ex.jpg)
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That one, the second pic, it looks like a housekeeper's overall.
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As the season progresses, the move to Macron as shirt manufacturer makes more and more sense.
Everyone said when they were announced that Macron only make Championship club shirts...
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Would Macron still be seeing us as their flagship brand if the drop occours?
Havent they paid the big bucks to us as they want Premiership exposure?
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There must e some kind of payment clause in the contract if we get relegated. They'll probably have to pay us less.
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That one, the second pic, it looks like a housekeeper's overall.
Nice tabard.
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That one, the second pic, it looks like a housekeeper's overall.
Nice tabard.
I quite like the way that Leeds have incorporated a tail section to wipe their asres with, Macro obviously think outside the box :P
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Manchester City Football Club and NIKE Inc. today announced a new partnership that will see the sponsorship of the Club move from Umbro to the Nike brand from the start of the 2013/14 season.
The Umbro sponsorship, which has been in place since June 2009, will continue to the end of the 2012/13 season, after which all kit, training wear and related products will be designed, manufactured and distributed by Nike. The contract will run until 2019.
“We’re excited by the opportunity to further develop the relationship between City and Nike Inc, which builds on the successful partnership the club has already enjoyed with Umbro, and reflects both the ambitions of the club and the Nike brand’s position within the world of football”, commented Nike Brand President, Charlie Denson.
John MacBeath, Interim Chief Executive Officer of Manchester City Football Club added "We are delighted to have further strengthened our relationship with the Nike family.
"Nike's deserved reputation as the leading global sports brand, its unparalleled R&D capacity, leading global retail distribution networks and award winning marketing capabilities mean that this is a very important step forward in the evolution of Manchester City.”
Man City and Nike announce new partnership (http://www.mcfc.co.uk/News/Club-news/2012/May/Manchester-City-announce-Nike-kit-partnership)
Remember when we were sponsored by Nike :(
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Yeah. I remember eight months later when they finally got round to releasing our kit too.
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Got the shorts on now!The top is in the wardrobe ready and fresh for Sunday.
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That Leeds kit..? Horrible. Hope ours is nothing like that.
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They made a horrible kit for Dirty Leeds?
I like them better already.
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Isn't Umbro owned by Nike anyroad?
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Green away kit anybody?
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Green away kit anybody?
No thanks.
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Pink with magnolia polka-dots away kit for all I care.
Just don't fuck about with the home shirt.
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Green away kit anybody?
That's my understanding.
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Green away kit anybody?
That's my understanding.
That's come from VT.It must be true.
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Is it because we are so bad to watch that we have to wear camouflage?
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(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7982/villagreencopy.png)
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You wont like me when I'm angry.
A headline writers dream, I can just see a picture of Bent wearing that whilst on strike demanding a move 'The Incredible Sulk'
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I wondered how long it would take.
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I wondered how long it would take.
Not that long when I did it last week when I first heard the green rumours.
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Is it green to help with Lambert's transistion over to us?
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Can't believe the amount of QQ on VT over this. Its only a football kit.
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QQ?
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Marshall, I'm color blind so I'm not a very good judge, but I like every mock up you've created this far. Well done.
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I don't mind the idea of a green away kit.
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11 goalkeepers on the pitch.Very negative.
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11 goalkeepers on the pitch.Very negative.
Very McCleish !!
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I might be the only one but I quite like that and it's growing on me. Of course when the actual kit is officially released it might be totally different.
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If it's got to be green I hope its a darker shade.
If we're going for unconventional colours though I'd like us to have a purple change shirt.
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If it's got to be green I hope its a darker shade.
If we're going for unconventional colours though I'd like us to have a purple change shirt.
Would love Purple...very Harchester Utd...can we sign Fletch?
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QQ?
Crying/moaning. Look at the Q's - supposed to look like teary eyes.
Its an old internet thing.
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Well I've not seen the green shirt yet but it's gonna have to be pretty spectacular to change my mind on the matter.
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I might be the only one but I quite like that and it's growing on me.....
A bit like moss?
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11 goalkeepers on the pitch.Very negative.
Very McCleish !!
whose that then?
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Green away kit anybody?
That's my understanding.
That's come from VT.It must be true.
Well, I said it on VT, so thanks.
And it is true.
I heard a while ago it was either Yellow or most likely Green.
I'm bracing myself for the finished job as Green can be spot on or horribly wrong. If its the same or anything like the mock up Marsh did I'll be happy.
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We should have a white as a third, but why not be a little bold with the second kit. I quite liked the green/ black striped number from a few years back.
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Green away kit anybody?
That's my understanding.
That's come from VT.It must be true.
Well, I said it on VT, so thanks.
And it is true.
I heard a while ago it was either Yellow or most likely Green.
I'm bracing myself for the finished job as Green can be spot on or horribly wrong. If its the same or anything like the mock up Marsh did I'll be happy.
It's a little Norwich-esque, but it's smart..
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Well next season in the championship Lerner maybe able to strike a deal with Poundland.
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Hurrah, the Troll is back :)
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Well next season in the championship Lerner maybe able to strike a deal with Poundland.
You were asked a couple of questions after your last post. Will you answer them?
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(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7982/villagreencopy.png)
I personally like it. You never know when someone is going to need to find you from space...
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(http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll349/Todosobrecamisetas/ESTRENOS%20CLUBS%202011/AZ12.jpg)
I Like, if ours is like that I will be happy
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Has anyone else noticed how they have added a white border to our badge?
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I've disliked the idea of Macron making our kits from day one, but if they look like the above I may just change my mind.
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Will there be camping? http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2771839,00.html
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I've disliked the idea of Macron making our kits from day one
Really? You should've mentioned it. ;-)
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Will there be camping?
If you like ducky.
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(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7982/villagreencopy.png)
I personally like it. You never know when someone is going to need to find you from space...
My son's junior team used to play in green: my wife had this theory that the players found it difficult to see their team mates when they wore green ...
... could have been a good excuse this season for the poor ball-possession.
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Will there be camping?
If you like ducky.
*Snigger*
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Surely this will leak in the next week or so, you'd imagine the press shots will have been done by now.
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The new away kit was leeked on twitter the other day. Don't know if it was genuine or not but it appeared to be. The shirt was sky blue with black trimming. Not too bad but did look a bit Coventry.
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The new away kit was leeked on twitter the other day. Don't know if it was genuine or not but it appeared to be. The shirt was sky blue with black trimming. Not too bad but did look a bit Coventry.
I saw that on facebook. Wasn't that keen on it but it was better than that green thing.
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It was bland, fake and nowhere near as nice as the green mock up Marshall did.
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It was bland, fake and nowhere near as nice as the green mock up Marshall did.
There is nothing nice about that green shirt.
Marshalls mock ups are usually to notch though. The retro looking ones from last year were superb.
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I liked it. Green is good.
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Hmmm...
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580041_3826366745186_1458311677_70121811_526601576_n.jpg)
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I bloody love that
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I bloody love that
Really? I don't like it at all.. Looks like a training top.
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As I understand it Macron have produced some 120 "bespoke" items for us. Hence the reason why there will be a lot of leaks of random stuff.
Nike gave us 30.
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I prefer the radioactive green kit. It might help the players spot eachother and find them more often.
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That blue thing is a terrible shirt. It looks like something my dad would get me for Christmas.
There is something very Norwegian about the green one you know.
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I prefer the radioactive green kit. It might help the players spot eachother and find them more often.
not bad
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At this stage I'd say it might be a bit presumptuous to take anything as read which isn't an actual photograph of a shirt. The kit will be finalised by now. Just thinking...
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Our first sighting of the new shirt will most likely be when our new manager appears in it at his press conference.
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a promoted West Ham side means there will be two claret and blue macron clubs. Great.. we'll probably have the exact same kit barring the badge.
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a promoted West Ham side means there will be two claret and blue macron clubs. Great.. we'll probably have the exact same kit barring the badge.
That will actually be a good test of how good Macron are if they produce 2 different kits for ourselves and WHam.
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Hmmm...
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580041_3826366745186_1458311677_70121811_526601576_n.jpg)
I think that is great. Looks lovely.
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Hmmm...
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580041_3826366745186_1458311677_70121811_526601576_n.jpg)
I think that is great. Looks lovely.
Not bad at all. Black shorts and socks and that will look pretty decent.
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If Macron are taking us seriously then it could be great, even if the kits are a bit average.
Look at some of the stuff Umbro do for Citeh -
http://shop.mcfc.co.uk/stores/mancity/products/product_browse.aspx?category%7ccategory_root%7c16346=umbro%20training&category%7ccat_16346%7c25705=collections&category%7ccat_25705%7c25710=diamond%20series
If we had similarly designed stuff (as opposed to just a Nike polo with the current badge on) I'm sure it'd sell well.
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Hmmm...
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580041_3826366745186_1458311677_70121811_526601576_n.jpg)
I think that is great. Looks lovely.
Not bad at all. Black shorts and socks and that will look pretty decent.
yes would look great with black shorts and black socks and the gold ( Napoli type ) numbers on the back . Its better than the white one from last season .
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I prefer the radioactive green kit. It might help the players spot eachother and find them more often.
Agbonlahor will look like the hulk
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Going by last season he's more like the Incredible Sulk than the Incredible Hulk.
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(http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Lazio-201213-Kit.jpg)
I actually kind of like that.
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(http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Lazio-201213-Kit.jpg)
I actually kind of like that.
It's a bit fascist (not that some Lazio fans would have a problem with that) but I do like the idea. Very retro.
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That's actually a little bit ace. Totally different. Reminds me a bit of that yellow number we wore at Liverpool in a cup game once with the big Villa badge on it.
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What in the mother of fuck was Luca thinking when he did that design?
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Those Lazio kits by Macron look brilliant. It'd be great if Macron could produce something equally as brilliant for us.
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Like them very much too, really stylish and a bit different
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They look bloody daft. They look like a banner advert rather than a football top.
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I'm starting to like these Macron folk. They're different without being naff. Maybe a bit daft, but not naff, like the new Man United disaster-kit.
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It's a bit fascist (not that some Lazio fans would have a problem with that) but I do like the idea. Very retro.
(http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Lazio-201213-Kit.jpg)
I actually kind of like that.
Sorry, mate, I'm a Lazio fan since I was born and I can assure to you that those beautiful kits are historical and have nothing to do with fascism.
Lazio were founded in 1900, when fascism still didn't exist and adopted the colours of Greece and, as crest, the eagle as it is the symbol of the old Roman Empire.
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Yeah that's fair enough, Archie. The eagle does look a bit 'Luftwaffe' though :P
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What in the mother of fuck was Luca thinking when he did that design?
Ah, I see, yes, well, er, ahem.
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What in the mother of fuck was Luca thinking when he did that design?
Ah, I see, yes, well, er, ahem.
Good work.
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That's actually a little bit ace. Totally different. Reminds me a bit of that yellow number we wore at Liverpool in a cup game once with the big Villa badge on it.
I liked that kit, I still have my top somewhere (unless the misses has chucked it out!)
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Fair enough Archie. You do have to admit it has a certain resemblance to a Luftwaffe emblem as Stu says though.
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Only a coincidence, mate, no doubt about this.
Anyhow the new Lazio kit should be the following (and it'd be nice, sober and stylish).
(http://net-storage.tccstatic.com/storage/lalaziosiamonoi.it/img_notizie/thumb1/2704d7b1a00b9cbcd6dbc94adbb50ade-35703-d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e.jpeg)
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A lot of the Nazi icongraphy was borrowed from the Roman empire, amongst others.
Because it looks powerful and... ace.
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http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/fc-lorient-macron-home-shirt-201213_15754
FC Lorient go for a more conservative Macron design. Any kit is brilliant if it has the word 'biscuits' on it in my opinion.
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Hail Caesar.
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http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/fc-lorient-macron-home-shirt-201213_15754
FC Lorient go for a more conservative Macron design. Any kit is brilliant if it has the word 'biscuits' on it in my opinion.
To be fair they do pretty nice biscuits and cakes. Used to love them on camping holidays as a kid to Brittany and the West coast of France.
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That Lorient kit is well smart. Claret and blue version would be great, but I do worry West Ham will have already had a prototype in the years I wasn't watching them.
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Didn't the Third Reich adopt the eagle as it was a symbol of the Roman Empire? And wasn't the Roman Empire a more-or-less fascist regime (although admittedly I'm basing that assumption on repeated viewings of Gladiator and Spartacus)?
Anyway, I haven't seen a Macron kit I don't like yet.
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That Lorient kit is fucking bobbins.
It looks like a Rally car that Stevie Wonder has applied stickers to.
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Yeah that's fair enough, Archie. The eagle does look a bit 'Luftwaffe' though :P
I am expected ours to have the lions head on the front ;)
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That Lorient kit is fucking bobbins.
It looks like a Rally car that Stevie Wonder has applied stickers to.
Agreed, terrible kit
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And wasn't the Roman Empire a more-or-less fascist regime (although admittedly I'm basing that assumption on repeated viewings of Gladiator and Spartacus)?
Surely not, mate.
Surely at those times people were divided in social classes, but so were until XIX century, when in USA slavery was legal
The Ancient Roman were one of the most important civilization of the history of mankind, they built roads, bridges, aqueductus, beautful buildings, produced masterworks of art, and their jurdical system, for insatnce, is still considered the most perfect, and fair, of all times.
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And that's all for tonight on the history channel.
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And wasn't the Roman Empire a more-or-less fascist regime (although admittedly I'm basing that assumption on repeated viewings of Gladiator and Spartacus)?
Surely not, mate.
Surely at those times people were divided in social classes, but so were until XIX century, when in USA slavery was legal
The Ancient Roman were one of the most important civilization of the history of mankind, they built roads, bridges, aqueductus, beautful buildings, produced masterworks of art, and their jurdical system, for insatnce, is still considered the most perfect, and fair, of all times. The Lions liked it, the Christians less so. ;)
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Have to admit, when I first read FC Lorient, I thought it was referring to Leyton Orient and they'd just been re-badged.
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Apart from
built roads, bridges, aqueductus, beautful buildings, produced masterworks of art, and their jurdical system, for insatnce, is still considered the most perfect, and fair, of all times.
what have the Romans ever done for us?
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Buggered that up, cannot get used to posting on my phone!
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How long is the macron deal, I just looked at the first few pages and couldn't see any details?
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And that's all for tonight on the history channel.
ha!
reminds me of this...
Wayne Campbell: So, do you come to Milwaukee often?
Alice Cooper: Well, I'm a regular visitor here, but Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers were coming here as early as the late 1600s to trade with the Native Americans.
Pete: In fact, isn't "Milwaukee" an Indian name?
Alice Cooper: Yes, Pete, it is. Actually, it's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que" which is Algonquin for "the good land."
Wayne Campbell: I was not aware of that.
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How long is the macron deal, I just looked at the first few pages and couldn't see any details?
Four years, read all about it here:
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2601340,00.html
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Living in Leeds I see a lot of macron stuff and have been told that the sizing is quite generous, so us chunky folk will be downsizing
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Living in Leeds I see a lot of macron stuff and have been told that the sizing is quite generous, so us chunky folk will be downsizing
At last, some good news for Richard Dunne! ;D
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Living in Leeds I see a lot of macron stuff and have been told that the sizing is quite generous, so us chunky folk will be downsizing
At last, some good news for Richard Dunne! ;D
roflmao ;D
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roflmao ;D
You can stop practising Norwegian, he's not coming anymore.
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Living in Leeds I see a lot of macron stuff and have been told that the sizing is quite generous, so us chunky folk will be downsizing
If anything it is the opposite - I have Macron kit as I'm a coach of a kids team and our club use Macron. It tends to be smaller sized, where I am a M in Nike I am a L in Macron. Good quality gear though.
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Are you wearing the kids sizes?
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Are you wearing the kids sizes?
Er, no.
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Just to clear up an issue that was doing the rounds on VT, not sure if its been mentioned here. I popped into my local sports shop in Evesham today to inquire about availability of the new shirts. They have already pre ordered all the shirts and various merchandise, which they say will be available probably same day as release if not then day later. So the comments that the shirts are only available from Villa park only are totally untrue.
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A logo I made by changing the colours of the old circle logo
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8764/newbadgecopy.png)
and two kits with that logo
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5116/villav5copy.png)
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2647/goldandblackawaycopy.png)
Sod rules on stars being on kits
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A logo I made by changing the colours of the old circle logo
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8764/newbadgecopy.png)
Love it
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A logo I made by changing the colours of the old circle logo
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8764/newbadgecopy.png)
and two kits with that logo
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5116/villav5copy.png)
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2647/goldandblackawaycopy.png)
Sod rules on stars being on kits
Love them all
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the badge is a little too Chelsea for me. I like the current shield design a lot.
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the badge is a little too Chelsea for me. I like the current shield design a lot.
you mean the Chelsea badge is a little too Villa?
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A logo I made by changing the colours of the old circle logo
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8764/newbadgecopy.png)
and two kits with that logo
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5116/villav5copy.png)
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2647/goldandblackawaycopy.png)
Sod rules on stars being on kits
I'd be well happy with those, a hint of the 70's style in both shirt and badge, love it, great job.
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the badge is a little too Chelsea for me. I like the current shield design a lot.
You're joking right?
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The current crest is nowhere near as good as the previous two.
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I realise its probably a generation thing but for me the round badge will always be the one for me & the one I associate with the Villa.
Really don't like the current badge.....never have & doubt I ever will,just looks amateurish in my opinion!
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Both those kits are ace!!
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Nice work again Marshall!
You'd have to put the star in the badge though (rules is rules) probably between the lion's front paws, and being uber-fussy I'd personally like to have '1874' on there somewhere, neither of which stops me liking your design which is far superior to the current one actually is use!
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I'd also like to see the return of 'Prepared'.
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I'd also like to see the return of 'Prepared'.
I'd like to see the team playing as if they were prepared first! :D
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I can't upload a pic from IPhone, but there is another one going about that is similar to the one above, but with claret checks on the end of the blue arms and a check pattern in the main body. Black socks with it and current badge.
The above two are awesome I d be mega happy with them
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Personally, I love the current badge, looks a lot more 'professional' than previous ones, for lack of a better word. I did originally hate it though.
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So it has grown on you then? Same for me. Couldn't stand it at first, but have now come to accept it. The circular badge is still my preferred choice. Shows my age I suppose.
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I don't get why they have black socks, I think it looks awful. Its also the kind of thing that ruins a game for my Dad (like changing the mascots to weird-looking lions).
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I mentioned this on the Golf Day thread a few days back but the Former Players Association have a beautiful crest. A great blend of the current one and the round one (my all-time favourite). If the Lion wasn't yellow our current crest wouldn't be so bad.
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Sorry if already posted and probably just be a mockup but not keen on these two. http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/aufoowqcmaaioyx.jpg
http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/aufoxndceaax93e.jpg
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the badge is a little too Chelsea for me. I like the current shield design a lot.
If you're not joking with that comment you should be permabanned immediately.
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Did anyone else have the kit launch festival email yesterday?
Thought it was strange having the Nike Logo on the email promoting the new kit launch since its not being made by Nike anymore.
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I delete all e-mails from AVFC these days without reading them.
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The home kit needs to be more distinctive to separate it from West Ham, either by keeping the checks that have been a feature of recent years or working in some extra detail. Like the blue panelling at the side of the 1982 Le Coq Sportif kits, or the striped collar of the 1981 kit.
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The home kit needs to be more distinctive to separate it from West Ham, either by keeping the checks that have been a feature of recent years or working in some extra detail. Like the blue panelling at the side of the 1982 Le Coq Sportif kits, or the striped collar of the 1981 kit.
Disagree completely, hate the checks and why do we have to be more distinctive with kit design re the likes of West Ham? Remember we were claret and blue long before them, we're the most famous club to play in claret and blue, I'd love to see us play in a kit similar style to that from the seventies.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but this is an interesting link
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
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I wish we would kick those checks into touch , the football has been dire since we had them.
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The home kit needs to be more distinctive to separate it from West Ham, either by keeping the checks that have been a feature of recent years or working in some extra detail. Like the blue panelling at the side of the 1982 Le Coq Sportif kits, or the striped collar of the 1981 kit.
Disagree completely, hate the checks and why do we have to be more distinctive with kit design re the likes of West Ham? Remember we were claret and blue long before them, we're the most famous club to play in claret and blue, I'd love to see us play in a kit similar style to that from the seventies.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but this is an interesting link
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
Hmmm, 1884-1886 was nice.... I would lose the check pattern too. It's unlucky, don't think we won a match when I wore the away top last season and it looks crap anyway.
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Love those mockups. I'd buy both if the kits were like that.
What's all this about a green away kit?
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Yep. That's what I heard a good while ago now. Green away kit.
I usually would have seen an image of it by now but they're really tightening up this year.
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I was a massive fan of the green, red & black kit of 1993/4 so hopefully it's similar.
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Personally, I love the current badge, looks a lot more 'professional' than previous ones, for lack of a better word. I did originally hate it though.
It doesn't look more professional. If you like it, fair enough, but from a design point of view, it's hopelessly amatuer. Two light colours that blend in to each other, combined with the two conflicting fonts. No professional graphic designer worth his salary would have put that together.
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So it has grown on you then? Same for me. Couldn't stand it at first, but have now come to accept it. The circular badge is still my preferred choice. Shows my age I suppose.
Definitely, It's probably because I'm a younger fan and haven't grown up with anything other than the previous striped badge and stuff I've seen my old man wear.
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Personally, I love the current badge, looks a lot more 'professional' than previous ones, for lack of a better word. I did originally hate it though.
It doesn't look more professional. If you like it, fair enough, but from a design point of view, it's hopelessly amatuer. Two light colours that blend in to each other, combined with the two conflicting fonts. No professional graphic designer worth his salary would have put that together.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
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The home kit needs to be more distinctive to separate it from West Ham, either by keeping the checks that have been a feature of recent years or working in some extra detail. Like the blue panelling at the side of the 1982 Le Coq Sportif kits, or the striped collar of the 1981 kit.
Disagree completely, hate the checks and why do we have to be more distinctive with kit design re the likes of West Ham? Remember we were claret and blue long before them, we're the most famous club to play in claret and blue, I'd love to see us play in a kit similar style to that from the seventies.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but this is an interesting link
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
Just been having a look over some of those old kits. Looking back, I have always liked the Hummel kits we have had. Quite a unique brand in English football and the 1989-1990 home and away kits remain my all-time favourites. I just hope the new Macron kits don't have the logo on the shoulder of the shirts, as that looks terrible on some of the kits they already produce.
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Sorry if already posted and probably just be a mockup but not keen on these two. http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/aufoowqcmaaioyx.jpg
http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/aufoxndceaax93e.jpg
I don't hate them..
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Sorry if already posted and probably just be a mockup but not keen on these two. http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/aufoowqcmaaioyx.jpg
http://robosvillablog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/aufoxndceaax93e.jpg
I don't hate them..
Quite like the home one, and if the away one's not too garish I could be tempted.
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The colour of our badge shouldn't be changed to match the kit. If the kit doesn't go with the badge, they should go back to the drawing board.
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The colour of our badge shouldn't be changed to match the kit. If the kit doesn't go with the badge, they should go back to the drawing board.
Yes.
(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/thumbs/football_shirt_1584_1_600x560x0.jpg)
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The colour of our badge shouldn't be changed to match the kit. If the kit doesn't go with the badge, they should go back to the drawing board.
Yes.
(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/thumbs/football_shirt_1584_1_600x560x0.jpg)
I've still got that one.
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The colour of our badge shouldn't be changed to match the kit. If the kit doesn't go with the badge, they should go back to the drawing board.
Yes.
(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/thumbs/football_shirt_1584_1_600x560x0.jpg)
I've still got that one.
I've always wanted that one.
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The colour of our badge shouldn't be changed to match the kit. If the kit doesn't go with the badge, they should go back to the drawing board.
Yes.
(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/thumbs/football_shirt_1584_1_600x560x0.jpg)
I've still got that one.
I've always wanted that one.
I bought one off e-bay last year.
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The colour of our badge shouldn't be changed to match the kit. If the kit doesn't go with the badge, they should go back to the drawing board.
Yes.
(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/thumbs/football_shirt_1584_1_600x560x0.jpg)
We've done it once, quite some time ago, so it's a great idea? Let's have a brown and blue home kit as well.
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I have no issue with the badge colour changing for the away kit. It can look quite smart if done right. Looks good on the green kit.
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The home kit needs to be more distinctive to separate it from West Ham, either by keeping the checks that have been a feature of recent years or working in some extra detail. Like the blue panelling at the side of the 1982 Le Coq Sportif kits, or the striped collar of the 1981 kit.
Disagree completely, hate the checks and why do we have to be more distinctive with kit design re the likes of West Ham? Remember we were claret and blue long before them, we're the most famous club to play in claret and blue, I'd love to see us play in a kit similar style to that from the seventies.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but this is an interesting link
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
Bought a replica of the 1879-81 one this year for me and my son. We love it!
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People saying "i hope Macron don't put their logo on the shoulders" surely see every kit ever made by them has these logo's on,
So to think our kit will be any different is ridiculous, no doubt they will still moan when the kits are revealed and fuess what, logo is on the shoulder's.
Sigh!
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As long as it's got a collar I will be happy!
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If the real thing turns out to look as good as any of Marshall's efforts on here, then I'll consider buying one for the first time in years.
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New West Ham Away kit
(http://www.footballkitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/New-West-Ham-Kit-2012-2013.jpg)
(http://www.footballkitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Macron-West-Ham-Jersey-2012-2013.jpg)
I know it is West Ham but I really like it
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\O/ \O/ \O/
Looks ok to me - petty simple which is how they should be.
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that's actually really quite nice
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that collar is horrible.
otherwise it's ok.
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that collar is horrible.
otherwise it's ok.
That colour on that shirt looks OK, let's hope that they don't do it with our home kit.
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that collar is horrible.
otherwise it's ok.
That colour on that shirt looks OK, let's hope that they don't do it with our home kit.
Its dark blue, that should be the other side of the city
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I think it looks great.
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Paid a visit to the big white clearance tent at VPthis morning ;
3 pairs of Nike tennis socks brand new , £2
Nike towel, £6
Nike large kitbag ,brand new, £10
Fill yer boots!
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According to Samir Carruthers twitter, "the away top colour is unreal".
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So it looks like the incredible hulk top is on.
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According to Samir Carruthers twitter, "the away top colour is unreal".
Unreal good or bad? I have no idea what some words even mean anymore.
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According to Samir Carruthers twitter, "the away top colour is unreal".
Unreal good or bad? I have no idea what some words even mean anymore.
Get with the kids TV, old chap.
It means cool (and not of the cold variety), or so I think?
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that collar is horrible.
otherwise it's ok.
That colour on that shirt looks OK, let's hope that they don't do it with our home kit.
Its dark blue, that should be the other side of the city
The unwashed don't play in dark blue and we've had a similar coloured away kit before.
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Chaps the new Macron away kit will be a green shirt with blue shorts and socks
:-X
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I hope this is NOT true.
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I love that bright green kit, it is, to coin a phrase, 'vibrant'.
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I hate that bright green kit, it is, to coin a phrase, 'fucking minging'.
Corrected your post Lambo.
Theres going to be a lot of unhappy fans puking in buckets if that monstrocity is anything like our away kit next season.
I usually like Marshalls designs but then one should have ended up in the recycle bin.
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I hope it's not green but if it is, it'll save me £45. Green is a bloody horrible colour clothes wise.
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that collar is horrible.
otherwise it's ok.
That colour on that shirt looks OK, let's hope that they don't do it with our home kit.
Its dark blue, that should be the other side of the city
The unwashed don't play in dark blue and we've had a similar coloured away kit before.
Correct. They play in royal blue, not dark blue. Some need their eyes testing.
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Am I close
(http://local.twitpicproxy.com/web10/img/592409484-e51cfff9fd93a56c7eba3cb7d5e74743.4fcc8e28-full.png)
Bearing in mind I have no idea on the shades of blue or green but I did it how I would like it to be.
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Am I close
(http://local.twitpicproxy.com/web10/img/592409484-e51cfff9fd93a56c7eba3cb7d5e74743.4fcc8e28-full.png)
Bearing in mind I have no idea on the shades of blue or green but I did it how I would like it to be.
Oh god, plea tell me we are not jointing the "ROSPA highlighting pen don't want to get run over at 2am high viz Tarmac laying " brigade.
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Marshall you are very close , but slightly darker not lime green
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Marshall you are very close , but slightly darker not lime green
We talking really dark green or normal green
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Better or lighter
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/592428943.png?key=466560&Expires=1338809339&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=G9mMiGb545dSqH58eZ~2wTxRu3CyPogbcQGBoZ70jcuRSQfvyc4lVk8EoM4vwW7sFcNyOBo7YeesXzHbvXUm9zc9S2VStTWABGVi61JPiuCJJVXBpjplw1vBVPxSwkgFvFAAEU8LarfkVR7m8iAEdE09aq~KgcsxiP4f0Mqr2BA_)
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Blue and green should never be seen. Green and black would be fine.
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Better or lighter
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/592428943.png?key=466560&Expires=1338809339&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=G9mMiGb545dSqH58eZ~2wTxRu3CyPogbcQGBoZ70jcuRSQfvyc4lVk8EoM4vwW7sFcNyOBo7YeesXzHbvXUm9zc9S2VStTWABGVi61JPiuCJJVXBpjplw1vBVPxSwkgFvFAAEU8LarfkVR7m8iAEdE09aq~KgcsxiP4f0Mqr2BA_)
Probably alone but that looks fantastic. :/
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Tweaked the green again to make it inbetween the two from above
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/592431952.png?key=466560&Expires=1338809695&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=lrIzCdakPYAi-VIXne003mdlK8FXNtI6gDWrsXUiXWf6ngXw3F58eXACeXWJTElELAfnMFp84feAG86Cc0c~Y~fpUh1D8f-dFE42DtkljhYqCXXHMGPy4mlnoNNGunazfv9kvHutKTAocIpLi9i3qzaiERG9dNOkvmCuD12bUZA_)
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I think the collar might need tweaking, Page 53 look at the new West Ham shirt, Maybe a similar collar design??
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That is grotesque.
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If this is true I think Macron and Villa might be spot on in terms of designs. A simple and traditional home kit for fans who like that type of kit and a vibrant yet different away kit for fans who like something different
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I think the mandate Nike were given was for the home kit to be conventional but they would have some artistic license for the away kit.
For the record, I really like the 2 light green kits that Marshall has done but just hope it doesn't use the pin stripes. It sounds like the away kit will be like Marmite though - some will hate it and others will love it.
Edit - actually when I zoom into the image I see that it doesn't use pin stripes.
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Better or lighter
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/592428943.png?key=466560&Expires=1338809339&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=G9mMiGb545dSqH58eZ~2wTxRu3CyPogbcQGBoZ70jcuRSQfvyc4lVk8EoM4vwW7sFcNyOBo7YeesXzHbvXUm9zc9S2VStTWABGVi61JPiuCJJVXBpjplw1vBVPxSwkgFvFAAEU8LarfkVR7m8iAEdE09aq~KgcsxiP4f0Mqr2BA_)
Probably alone but that looks fantastic. :/
For some reason the photo that i assume should be above is not showing for me.
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(http://enews.avfc.co.uk/FS/1396/Images/Weekend-Announcement.jpg)
Look at the font colour for see the away kit font
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Knock one up in that shade if ya got the time.
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Knock one up in that shade if ya got the time.
Done one earlier
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1347/villagreenanddarkblue12.png)
Still think it may be darker and the design might be all wrong
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I like it. I reckon it'll be a bit darker on the material. The design could be miles different, yeah.. but the colours (while green shirt and blue shorts SOUNDS horrible) look alright. A nice traditional home shirt with a more out-there away kit is exactly what I want.
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It's something different. I'm looking forward to it.
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I think the green will be the same as the ''Monster Energy'' green. That logo and colour is everywhere.Appears to be the trendy colour with the youngsters at the moment. Regarding the home shirt did Sky not give us a view of it when they filmed the name Lambert being printed on it in one of their reports outside Villa Park over the weekend. It looked very plain claret body, blue sleeves that didn't go over the shoulders. ??
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I thought that was last seasons kit
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It may have been but I didn't see the checks on the claret body.
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If they go with a flourescent green it'll be the biggest selling away kit in years. Anything unusual always sells well (remember the striped home shirt?).
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If they go with a flourescent green it'll be the biggest selling away kit in years. Anything unusual always sells well (remember the striped home shirt?).
Agree, refresh the whole club, new and so needed after the yawns of the past 2 years.
I think we'll lose the black socks and go to blue again - so good to have sacked Nike.
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Are there any leaks? Or just guesswork?
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Umbro was bought by Nike in 2008 and almost immediately rebranded with the Tailored By range. Cited as inspirational in the football kit evolution towards more understated designs from the rest of the "big four" (Puma, adidas and Nike), Tailored By was lauded by sports fashion commentators and quickly built up Umbro's credibility, which had been lagging in previous years.
However, despite increased expenditure and high-profile marketing campaigns - including England shirt launches employing stars of other sports and music - revenue in 2011 was lower than back in 2006 and ongoing losses have led Nike to the conclusion that they should focus on the core brand and other better performing areas such as Jordan and Converse.
What the future holds for Umbro may be a sale to another manufacturer, such as adidas, or it may be that Umbro can somehow return to being self-sufficient - in line with reduced funding from Nike. Other scenarios are worryingly bleaker.
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Are there any leaks? Or just guesswork?
Mostly guesswork. With some apparent ITKs to possibly back it up.
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Cheers!
Like the Macron style. Also wouldn't mind something a bit different than mainstream (away)
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saw this one somewhere today but probably one of Marshall's
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/lemsta007/villakit.jpg)
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I love this time of year.
The one time men suddenly understand the use of colours, style, and design in clothing.
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saw this one somewhere today but probably one of Marshall's
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/lemsta007/villakit.jpg)
No thanks. Looks like Captain Birdseye's summer holiday shirt
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Are there any leaks? Or just guesswork?
&feature=g-all-u
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Are there any leaks? Or just guesswork?
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Thanks for the link Richard, worth watching!
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Cheers. Looks like we are keeping claret shirts, with blue sleeves and no fucking stripes which is all I really care about.
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Talk of, and a brief glimpse of, an embossed lion within the shirt. Nice to see they have evidently been looking at our past efforts going back some way - you see shirts from both the early 80s and the 70s in the clips
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I think I am gonna like this one.
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Macron certainly speak very well of the club, their designs and reassuring to know they clearly used some of our old shirt designs for inspiration. I like the idea of the embossed lion on the back so fingers crossed at least the home kit design will be decent. Away shirts seem to have some artistic license these days but would welcome a white shirt to compliment the home design if its as good as they make it out to be.
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you get the impression from that video that as a smaller company they took a lot more time with their clients. With Nike, we were just a lower level project and were treated accordingly. With Macron, they look like they really spent time considering different ideas, the history of the club, and the fact that we are amongst the biggest of their clients, and certainly their highest profile client in the PL.
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This is taken from the official Villa site:
http://www.kit.avfc.co.uk/kit
Looks like it will be modelled on the 80-81 kit.
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Cheers for that Legion. I'm not sure how to embed video but there's another video clip on the official site, about fifteen minutes long, concentrating on the design of the shirt. A good watch for anyone who's interested.
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Looks like the home shirt will bve claret and blue again - pfft - could they not come up with something else ;)
I think it will be great - new shirt manufacturer , new manager, new dawn
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just the snippets of the home kit are encouraging. The colour looks bang on and the dedication they are showing to the design give me the impression that they have put a lot of thought into this.
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I am glad we left Nike, Macron seem to be building a good name outside of Italy. There are already some English clubs using Macron in the Football league mainly.
It`s just that Disney looking lion on the badge I still don`t like, bring back the McGregor version.
I could do with a new Villa shirt but when does our shirt sponsor finish?
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I wont believe any of it until i see the shirt displayed on a pallet like a few years ago ;)
Love the embossed lion effect
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(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5531/macronhomevilla.jpg)
I love the double collar and the material looks really good
My main worry about the kit is not getting one to fit as the sizes are weird on the OS shop. No sizes between 50 and 58 inches
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Potentially the best Villa shirt for many years. Looks great from the brief glimpses they've shown there.
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We're entrusting our sartorial wellbeing to a man with a hairy snood?
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Interesting videos. Especially the research one.
Compare that to Nike, who towards the end were clearly saying "Just get last year's RC Lens shirt, stick it through Photoshop, and BAM!"
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the macron logo always reminds me of a save the children collection tin.
(http://i.imgur.com/9MwZE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ohPn7.png)
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anyone else think it was a bit like the 5 minute porn preview at 12, just teasing you a bit to get you hooked ??
no.... me neither :-[ i dont watch it
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the macron logo always reminds me of a save the children collection tin.
(http://i.imgur.com/9MwZE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ohPn7.png)
sorry for my tone lowering
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I think this will be the first shirt I buy since "muller". I like the slim fit and love a good ole bloody collar.
Could be a belter Macron....cheers.
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The Shirt and Shorts sizes are 2 sizes smaller than Nike so if you wear an XXL Nike shirt you might not get a shirt to fit this season
Biggest shirt size they do is 50 inches and that was an XL Nike Shirt unless you have a 58 which will be huge
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Anybody that still wants Nike, then watch the video's. Then wipe the egg off your face as you watch them again.
Looks like we have got ourselves a belter!
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There will always be people want Nike as they think its a designer brand, when its probably made in China or Bangladesh like most of the other tat. As long as the kit looks good I couldn't care less who makes it.
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Anybody that still wants Nike, then watch the video's. Then wipe the egg off your face as you watch them again.
Looks like we have got ourselves a belter!
Agree 100%
There was a number of people that made full use of the term "small time" to describe us with this deal. The biggest shirt deal in our history and yet it provided another opportunity to hammer Faulkner. Instead we look as though we will have something quite excellent. Well done to the club for ditching Nike and being open minded enough to secure this deal.
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(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5531/macronhomevilla.jpg)
I love the double collar and the material looks really good
My main worry about the kit is not getting one to fit as the sizes are weird on the OS shop. No sizes between 50 and 58 inches
oh that looks fantastic.
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Also embossed Lion, yes yes yes!
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(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3538/villa1213leakedcopy.png)
Nike Sizes
S - 34/36
M - 38/40
L - 42/44
XL - 46/48
XXL - 50/52
XXXL - 54/56
Macron Sizes (from OS)
S - 38/40
M - 40/42
L - 42/44
XL - 44/46
XXL - 46/48
XXXL - 48/50
XXXXL - 58
I think the Macron sizes are wrong because the Nike ones have gaps 42/44 then 46/48. Macron sizes overlap.
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I might be wrong but from the picture doesn't look like the Macron logo in on the shoulder.
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I think I'll be buying the kit this year. Looks great.
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I might be wrong but from the picture doesn't look like the Macron logo in on the shoulder.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/7995_10151019423511477_1331665573_n.jpg)
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I'm loving the 'sneak' peak of the new shirt. The collar looks ace
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Is that a concept drawing though Marshall? I just looked at the main shot on the last page and it looked from where the blue sleeve started that there wasn't a logo. Like I said I could and probably am wrong.
EDIT:looking at it again, the logo is hidden a little but you can make it out. Nonetheless it looks solid.
The goalie kit looks ace too. None of that bullshit tiger stripe bollocks that Nike took the royal piss with.
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I didn't see the keeper kit.
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The professionalism of Macron's approach makes Nike look shameful. I love the fact that they have been sitting in a studio with an '81 shirt for all these months. The lack of leaks -other than official ones - is a refreshing change too.
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Looks very interesting, and quality should be a step up from Nike. But the best part it is designed for Villa!
Wupti!
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Yes Macron are a step up from Nike for attention and they seem to have their finger on the pulse. You can trust Italians for quality, and they need us just like we are glad to be a customer.
Just the price then for the end product....Real Mallorca`s shirst is around £50 depending on the Euro.
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AVFC preorders at £45 something
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The professionalism of Macron's approach makes Nike look shameful. I love the fact that they have been sitting in a studio with an '81 shirt for all these months. The lack of leaks -other than official ones - is a refreshing change too.
ditto
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Macron look like labour of love and spend lot of time while Nike look like they designed the kit range from it template book. Nike is overrated. Nike and Adidas are only interested in globalisation and produce kit too similar to each other look at Real Madrid, Chelsea, Bayern Munich for example. Boring and Bland.
I hope Macron produce an excellent range of clothes to buy. I hope I can somehow to find a new home shirt with main sponsor logo on the middle. But I doubt it will slip through Macron's net.
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I didn't see the keeper kit.
it was on a banner somewhere with Given obviously. Dark green and black.
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Someone sent me the home shirt if it's right it looks quality,
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I can't post it grt
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I can't post it grt
;(
Post it to my house , I will message you the address . ;)
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I can't post it grt
you tease us.
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It's like the one marshall did how do I put it on?
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If you click reply, and then expand out the additional options you can browse and host on image shack.You will have to create an account on there first.
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(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9162/img1829.png)
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It's like the one marshall did how do I put it on?
I've sent you an inbox message Phil.
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Think that will be pretty close to the actual one. Very nice kit
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http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9162/img1829.png
I like that a lot thanks Phil.
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Think that will be pretty close to the actual one. Very nice kit
Thats something that chap who posts on here designed.
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Think that will be pretty close to the actual one. Very nice kit
Thats something that chap who posts on here designed.
i do like a good collar
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It's like the one marshall did how do I put it on?
I've sent you an inbox message Phil.
Cheers got it
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Think that will be pretty close to the actual one. Very nice kit
Thats something that chap who posts on here designed.
Yeah I thought so, my mate sent it me he got it from Twitter
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I can't post it grt
You tease.
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If it looks like that then theres no need to change the kit for a few seasons until we get a new sponsor. My only complaint would be the band of yellow around the bottom.
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(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9162/img1829.png)
I f****g love it ;)
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Looks like the real one has only got two claret stripes on the collar.
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(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9162/img1829.png)
I f****g love it ;)
I like it.
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Watching one of the videos it's interesting that the colour of the away kit was influenced by the team. Hopefully not by Dunne and Collins looking down on their remains after a night on the lash.
I am very impressed by how deep they've gone with their attention to detail, something you can guarantee Nike never did. The home shirt will be a modern version of the 80-81 kit which will be a big seller in my opinion. I think for the first time in ages I'll likely get both home and away. I'm guessing the other fashion items might be really quite nice too.
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That is a classy top. White shorts and light blue socks will make that look even better.
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On the picture Marshall posted of the Actual top in a heap, there are 2 stripes on the one collar and 1 stripe on the turn-up collar
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(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9162/img1829.png)
I f****g love it ;)
I like it.
Superb shirt, no checks either, would happily buy (for myself) and I haven't bought a home or away shirt for quite a few years (though I have for my kids).
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Watching one of the videos it's interesting that the colour of the away kit was influenced by the team. Hopefully not by Dunne and Collins looking down on their remains after a night on the lash.
I am very impressed by how deep they've gone with their attention to detail, something you can guarantee Nike never did. The home shirt will be a modern version of the 80-81 kit which will be a big seller in my opinion. I think for the first time in ages I'll likely get both home and away. I'm guessing the other fashion items might be really quite nice too.
Yes, hope so, the add ons are important to me as I am more minded to buy something from that range than the actual shirt. Being an old git, or at least psychologically so, I tend to think 50 year olds don't look that good in the shirt, even as honed and slim as I am!!
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That could just be the first villa home shirt i have bought in many a year
Loving the teaser image and the collars
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The polo shirts that the guys in the vids were wearing were nice, white with c&b trim and claret with blue trim.
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The Sponsor is too low down.
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Pure Italian style mates. . . Happy with this shirt, if this is the real one!
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The club will be getting my £45 this year, maybe £90 if the away top rocks....F@#K it, im getting shorts and socks too!
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And gold/yellow trim on the bottom? That's a nice touch.
I love the 80/81 kit so will be very impressed if the new one is as speculated.
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Just phoned the club shop and there is no sizes for the new kit between 50 inches and 58 inches which was an XL NIke to a XXL Nike. There might be an error on the online shop which customers services are using and the sizes might be ok .
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A "surprise" choice of colour for the away shirt? I can see it being green...
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Well I'm pleased. The teasers are great, the videos a good idea and Macron are taking it very seriously.
The club have done well and if the kit is a modern twist on the 80-81 shirt I'll buy one, maybe not the most attractive for a 40 year old but I need something for Monday night 5-a-side! (I'm praying it's not a slim style.....)
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Feel genuinely excited with all the positivity this week.
Fingers crossed PL can sort out the useless arseholes that wear the shirt.
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I know everyones saying it, but I thought i'd chip in as well and say at first I was sceptical about Macron taking over from Nike as our kit sponsor, but since seeing these videos and the amount of work, research and consideration that has gone into our kit with them I think they are fantastic. Nike who?!
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As others have said - Macron seem to portray that it has been an honour to create and produce our shirt - i somehow had the feeling with Nike that apart from United and co they did not give a shit about anyone else
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I know everyones saying it, but I thought i'd chip in as well and say at first I was sceptical about Macron taking over from Nike as our kit sponsor, but since seeing these videos and the amount of work, research and consideration that has gone into our kit with them I think they are fantastic. Nike who?!
Yeah I must admit I was very skeptical at first. I had never really heard of them and I was thinking pub football kits which was totally unfair as they are showing great respect for our club and look a very professional outfit.
The kits looks like it will be a great one and I am intrigued to seeing this new 'unreal' away kit.
This could be another good move from our board, this, landing Lambert and hopefully some new faces will really lift everyone for this season.
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Looks like I'll be buying a shirt for the first time in years. If anybody is in the shop and sees a lot of moths flying around it'll be me opening my wallet. ;)
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We're entrusting our sartorial wellbeing to a man with a hairy snood?
What a brilliant 15 minutes viewing.
I have not watched 15 minutes of foreign language film since my adolescence.
Anyhow, Macron have gone from Nil respect from me ......... to when can I give them my cash. Well played Macron, your care and respect is heavily apreciated.
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As others have said - Macron seem to portray that it has been an honour to create and produce our shirt - i somehow had the feeling with Nike that apart from United and co they did not give a shit about anyone else
And boy did that show when you went to any Nike outlet, including their soulless and very expensive megastores
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That Italian lad with the scarf heading up the design of our kit is very passionate about the project. You can really see how much it meant to him and the companyto be involved with us. The fact that he likes to throw in bits about Italian style and the need for the kit to look and feel good yet with a keen eye on history and tradition makes this entire deal feel right in every way.
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What a great video. Whether they get it exactly right, or please everyone (which clearly they won't) Im glad we have gone with them. They look massively passionate and proud to be working with us. Great stuff and well done Villa.
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Judging by the look of that designer, I'm fully expecting a sleeveless home shirt/vest, with ball-crunching shorts and espadrilles, a la 1983. We'll look like Imagination's backing singers.
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I'm so glad everyone has cheered up on here. It's a beautiful thing.
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I'm so glad everyone has cheered up on here. It's a beautiful thing.
It sure makes a difference. In April things didn't look quite so rosy!
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Judging by the look of that designer, I'm fully expecting a sleeveless home shirt/vest, with ball-crunching shorts and espadrilles, a la 1983. We'll look like Imagination's backing singers.
Didn`t you know that Leeeeee John is replacing Emile up front
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Judging by the look of that designer, I'm fully expecting a sleeveless home shirt/vest, with ball-crunching shorts and espadrilles, a la 1983. We'll look like Imagination's backing singers.
Didn`t you know that Leeeeee John is replacing Emile up front
That bass player with the world's deepest voice would be more effective than Ivanhoe
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;D
Judging by the look of that designer, I'm fully expecting a sleeveless home shirt/vest, with ball-crunching shorts and espadrilles, a la 1983. We'll look like Imagination's backing singers.
Didn`t you know that Leeeeee John is replacing Emile up front
That bass player with the world's deepest voice would be more effective than Ivanhoe
Who Brian Blessed
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What a brilliant 15 minutes viewing.
I have not watched 15 minutes of foreign language film since my adolescence.
Anyhow, Macron have gone from Nil respect from me ......... to when can I give them my cash. Well played Macron, your care and respect is heavily apreciated.
Yeah, I like this guy.
Love the fact that they have used my favourite shirt as their inspiration.
Well done Villa!
Well done Macron!
Well done Italian guy in a funny scarf!
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I see they've got the old green and black number on the desk. I bet they had a chuckle at that.
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Loving the shirt that is doing the rounds, hopefully the away one isn't too crazy.
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I see they've got the old green and black number on the desk. I bet they had a chuckle at that.
And then thought....
Hmmmmm, green........?
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If the shirt is real it's beautiful. And it has the proper Villa claret after many years of dark Nike age characterized by a too dark claret.
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The colour is wrong but this is the same design as our new GK kits -
(http://www.macronstoregloucester.com/product_images/a/755/5421_1609__68161_zoom.jpg)
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What a brilliant 15 minutes viewing.
I have not watched 15 minutes of foreign language film since my adolescence.
Anyhow, Macron have gone from Nil respect from me ......... to when can I give them my cash. Well played Macron, your care and respect is heavily apreciated.
Hope that's the new away top
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It isnt. Its just a material design template for the shirts.
For white, see claret, yellow: blue and so on.
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In the email from VIlla Direct it looks like the back of the shirt has a largish white yoke thingy on the back. A little intrusive.
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That white and yellow kit is very smart!
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The first batch of the new kit is currently in a factory unit somewhere in Leeds. My nephew had to go there on Tuesday and install a new printing machine for putting all the logos on. He saw the shirt, but was sworn to secrecy and watched like a hawk, so there was no opportunity for pics on his phone. He's a Wolves fan so didn't pay much attention to the fine details of the shirt.
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The first batch of the new kit is currently in a factory unit somewhere in Leeds. My nephew had to go there on Tuesday and install a new printing machine for putting all the logos on. He saw the shirt, but was sworn to secrecy and watched like a hawk, so there was no opportunity for pics on his phone. He's a Wolves fan so didn't pay much attention to the fine details of the shirt.
Almost ITK Ken my old friend, almost....
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/9284469/Premier-League-kits-201213-in-pictures.html?frame=2227608
Other teams new kits.
The Stoke one looks like they are trying to appeal to a new audience with a love triangle for Crouch, while Norwich one looks like a group of rugby players and the Swansea one 4 kids dragged off the street looking really confused by the whole thing.
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God, that Yawnighted shirt looks awful. As do Wigan and QPRs efforts.
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That Stoke one. Presumably it's their away kit so how many clubs are going to clash with red and white stripes but not red and blue?
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The manure kit looks like a tartan shirt, they must have liked our checks
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/9284469/Premier-League-kits-201213-in-pictures.html?frame=2227608
Other teams new kits.
The Stoke one looks like they are trying to appeal to a new audience with a love triangle for Crouch, while Norwich one looks like a group of rugby players and the Swansea one 4 kids dragged off the street looking really confused by the whole thing.
Don't like any of them. They aren't claret and blue or have a Villa crest on.
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Liverpool's stripped down badge looks good. I wish we could do the same with our club badge. Just the Rampant lion with PREPARED underneath would look fantastic.
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That Stoke one. Presumably it's their away kit so how many clubs are going to clash with red and white stripes but not red and blue?
Is definitely their away one - would imagine they'll have a 'third' strip that will be used quite a bit on their travels!!
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I like the Stoke and Liverpool ones. The Fulham and QPR shirts are dreadful though.
Grant Holt dose'nt look too impressed in the Norwich photo. Maybe he's mind's elsewhere.
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So, I see the Liverpool kit is produced by someone called Warrior - they are listed on Google as Lacrosse and Hockey apparel specialists !! 'ooo da fuck are dey' ?
I wonder if the Liverpool fans were up in arms as much as some ours were when we dropped Nike for 'poxy, cheap, smalltime' Macron.
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So, I see the Liverpool kit is produced by someone called Warrior - they are listed on Google as Lacrosse and Hockey apparel specialists !! 'ooo da fuck are dey' ?
I wonder if the Liverpool fans were up in arms as much as some ours were when we dropped Nike for 'poxy, cheap, smalltime' Macron.
American link with John Henry, similar to xtep and the hairdresser. I don't know about their fans but when it was mentioned to our very vocal Macron doubters, it was thrown back that it is worth more or they don't have a silly symbol I believe.
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So, I see the Liverpool kit is produced by someone called Warrior - they are listed on Google as Lacrosse and Hockey apparel specialists !! 'ooo da fuck are dey' ?
I wonder if the Liverpool fans were up in arms as much as some ours were when we dropped Nike for 'poxy, cheap, smalltime' Macron.
I imagine the reported £25m a year contract they signed with Warrior softened the blow somewhat.
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Notice the price
http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116558
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The manure kit looks like a tartan shirt, they must have liked our checks
Now get it right, it's F.C.Gingham of Manchester, ok? ;)
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Notice the price
http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116558
Not sure about the colour....
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Notice the price
http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116558
I'm not happy with a new black home shirt. FFS you can't even see the badge!
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The manure kit looks like a tartan shirt, they must have liked our checks
Now get it right, it's F.C.Gingham of Manchester, ok? ;)
So desperate to be back on top of the table next season they've made it out of a table cloth
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Swansea's away kit, complete with new badge, is almost indistinguishable from Cardiff's Malaysian offerings.
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Notice the price
http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116558
I'm not happy with a new black home shirt. FFS you can't even see the badge!
Bonus!
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So, I see the Liverpool kit is produced by someone called Warrior - they are listed on Google as Lacrosse and Hockey apparel specialists !! 'ooo da fuck are dey' ?
I wonder if the Liverpool fans were up in arms as much as some ours were when we dropped Nike for 'poxy, cheap, smalltime' Macron.
I imagine the reported £25m a year contract they signed with Warrior softened the blow somewhat.
Surely that was based on them getting Champs League football? I can't imagine they would be getting anything like that amount as things stand currently.
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Surprises me thay are asking people to pre-order shirts when we have no idea what the shirts actually look like yet, surely it makes sense to show the new shirts and then get pre-orders in ready for the day it goes on sale?
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Surprises me thay are asking people to pre-order shirts when we have no idea what the shirts actually look like yet, surely it makes sense to show the new shirts and then get pre-orders in ready for the day it goes on sale?
It's going on sale the day it's launched.
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Surprises me thay are asking people to pre-order shirts when we have no idea what the shirts actually look like yet, surely it makes sense to show the new shirts and then get pre-orders in ready for the day it goes on sale?
Not really, lots of people (in particular young kids) want the new shirt every season and don't care what it looks like. I bet the pressured parent market has already meant a decent number of pre-orders have been made.
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given the sneak preview, I'm very tempted indeed to get the home kit without seeing it up close. I think the pre-order thing is a great idea. In fact the whole way they've handled the kit from development to marketing the launch has been quite excellent.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/9284469/Premier-League-kits-201213-in-pictures.html?frame=2227608
Other teams new kits.
The Stoke one looks like they are trying to appeal to a new audience with a love triangle for Crouch, while Norwich one looks like a group of rugby players and the Swansea one 4 kids dragged off the street looking really confused by the whole thing.
Don't like any of them. They aren't claret and blue or have a Villa crest on.
I thought I'd read that Citeh had been added to the Nike stable now
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Notice the price
http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116558
Not sure about the colour....
Damn, we should get back Emule. He'd be the penalty area ninja in that
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I was mainly meaning online orders being taken now before we can see what the new shirts look like, im interested in getting the away shirt but until i see the design i wont place my order.
Has it been confirmed as lime green or is that just speculation?
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Notice the price
http://www.kitbag.com/stores/kitbag/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116558
Not sure about the colour....
Damn, we should get back Emule. He'd be the penalty area ninja in that
No need for silly comments like that.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/9284469/Premier-League-kits-201213-in-pictures.html?frame=2227608
Other teams new kits.
The Stoke one looks like they are trying to appeal to a new audience with a love triangle for Crouch, while Norwich one looks like a group of rugby players and the Swansea one 4 kids dragged off the street looking really confused by the whole thing.
Don't like any of them. They aren't claret and blue or have a Villa crest on.
I thought I'd read that Citeh had been added to the Nike stable now
They have, starting from 2013/14
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wont miss nike, the tick on my training shirt is peeling off like a sticker, not had it that long !
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/9284469/Premier-League-kits-201213-in-pictures.html?frame=2227608
Other teams new kits.
The Stoke one looks like they are trying to appeal to a new audience with a love triangle for Crouch, while Norwich one looks like a group of rugby players and the Swansea one 4 kids dragged off the street looking really confused by the whole thing.
Don't like any of them. They aren't claret and blue or have a Villa crest on.
I thought I'd read that Citeh had been added to the Nike stable now
Their kit is made by Umbro, and they were tied in to a six year deal. But as Umbro is owned by Nike, Nike decided they were bigger than Umbro, and so bumped them up to a global Nike deal.
Also Gary Cook was a big cheese at NIke before he went to Citeh, so there's gonna be links there.
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(http://www.kit.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/f/71/0,,10265~10907919,00.jpg)
Look at the bottom corner of the pic, looks like we could have claret socks if that is one of the new socks.
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I imagine the reported £25m a year contract they signed with Warrior softened the blow somewhat.
Surely that was based on them getting Champs League football? I can't imagine they would be getting anything like that amount as things stand currently.
Shirt deals are normally fixed and one thing about Liverpool, they can still shift shirts, I'm sure fairly recently they were 3rd or 4th most sold with only ManU, Barca and possibly Real ahead of them.
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With Liverpool's kit deal, it just sounds like another way of getting around the Fair Play rules that are coming in.
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With Liverpool's kit deal, it just sounds like another way of getting around the Fair Play rules that are coming in.
How so? Why would Warrior want to be a part of that?
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Aren't Warrior one of John Henry's companies? I thought there was some sort of link. The amounts involved just seem out of line with other kit sponsorship deals.
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Warrior is part of Fenway Sports Group isn't it?
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Warrior is part of Fenway Sports Group isn't it?
Yeah it is
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Warrior is part of Fenway Sports Group isn't it?
No. They're based in Boston, but they're owned by New Balance.
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Aren't Warrior one of John Henry's companies? I thought there was some sort of link. The amounts involved just seem out of line with other kit sponsorship deals.
Well, it is worth slightly more than Man United's shirt deal, which is surprising, but not really massively so - certainly not like Etihad valuing Man City's naming rights at 400m or whatever it was. That one clearly was a fiddle.
Either way, they're not part of FSG in any case.
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Aren't Warrior one of John Henry's companies? I thought there was some sort of link. The amounts involved just seem out of line with other kit sponsorship deals.
Well, it is worth slightly more than Man United's shirt deal, which is surprising, but not really massively so - certainly not like Etihad valuing Man City's naming rights at 400m or whatever it was. That one clearly was a fiddle.
Either way, they're not part of FSG in any case.
Isn't citeys 'deal' still being investigated!?
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Warrior is part of Fenway Sports Group isn't it?
No. They're based in Boston, but they're owned by New Balance.
I think I might have unintentionally started that rumour with my comments on the previous page. I was linking the owners coming from the same country as an unknown non footballing kit manufacturer that suddenly decides to make a football kit.
But it is not surprising that New Balance sign a large deal with the Boston Red Sox and then a equally large deal with a subsidiary with Liverpool. They obviously have a good working relationship with John Henry.
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I was in the club shop today and some of the stuff isn't as bad as I thought it would be, the lad said no-one had seen the home shirt and wouldn't until Saturday when it's launched, despite them unloading stacks of boxes of it outside, perhaps they were going to keep their eyes shut?
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I was in the club shop today and some of the stuff isn't as bad as I thought it would be, the lad said no-one had seen the home shirt and wouldn't until Saturday when it's launched, despite them unloading stacks of boxes of it outside, perhaps they were going to keep their eyes shut?
Have they got Macron stuff in then? There were plenty of empty shelves and hangers when I went down for PL's appearance The only new thing was a Lambert T Shirt and they had forgot to put that out until after he had been and gone. (didn't want to tempt fate?)
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Yes, the training stuff looks almost identical to the Nike gear that's just been sold off.
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I am hearing out of VP that the home kit will be claret and blue.
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I am hearing out of VP that the home kit will be claret and blue.
shut up dont spoil it
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Been checking out the kits in Rome this week, the Napoli shirt is good quality and Macron seem very well respected by the staff in the shops, expensive though at 80 euros a pop. The new Roma kit is smart, usually Kappa make crap kits. Was hoping to get our top before I leave on the 24th.
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I'm surprised that the Macron training gear is out already - that usually follows in the weeks after the kit launches.
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(http://www.kit.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/f/71/0,,10265~10907919,00.jpg)
Look at the bottom corner of the pic, looks like we could have claret socks if that is one of the new socks.
I'd be disappointed if that's the case.
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(http://www.kit.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/f/71/0,,10265~10907919,00.jpg)
Look at the bottom corner of the pic, looks like we could have claret socks if that is one of the new socks.
I'd be disappointed if that's the case.
it could also be an old version that are looking at as they have with all of our past kits. That picture doesn't tell us anything.
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I would like to see the blue socks make a return.
This was my fav of the nike kits.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/26/article-0-0240E426000005DC-802_468x356.jpg)
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So according to the FB page from the OS ................
On sale at 9am but revealed at 1215pm ????
Therefore, if its onsale at 9am then it's revealed at 9am .
Or do they mean simply, theres a catwalk at 1215 after it's revealed.
Or is it not really on sale till 1215, after it is revealed?.
Oh my, I feel dizzy.
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Borrowed from over the road.
(http://p.twimg.com/AvVfs2-CEAAPIiT.jpg)
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So according to the FB page from the OS ................
On sale at 9am but revealed at 1215pm ????
Therefore, if its onsale at 9am then it's revealed at 9am .
Or do they mean simply, theres a catwalk at 1215 after it's revealed.
Or is it not really on sale till 1215, after it is revealed?.
Oh my, I feel dizzy.
Revealed tonight at midnight... erm ok a couple of minutes ago then :)
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Borrowed from over the road.
(http://p.twimg.com/AvVfs2-CEAAPIiT.jpg)
Not what we expeced
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Can I be the first to say I don't like it?
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Colours look washed out. Hopefully that's the lights/camera.
I'm not keen. Maybe it looks better on.
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Not keen on the yellow strip at the bottom, but other than that i like it.
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What are those swirly things on the shoulders?
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What are those swirly things on the shoulders?
Save The Children logo.
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Not keen on the yellow strip at the bottom, but other than that i like it.
Same here. Not sure why they had to include the yellow but I quite like the shirt.
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What are those swirly things on the shoulders?
Save The Children logo.
Ah yes, I can see it now.
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Thought the collar was going to be stripy. Perhaps it is underneath?
Colours look washed out but as mentioned, more likely due to poor quality camera phone / lighting
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The colour thing is bound to be a combination of camera / light
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The colour thing is bound to be a combination of camera / light
It might still look well when we see it for real.
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Not keen on the yellow strip at the bottom, but other than that i like it.
Same here. Not sure why they had to include the yellow but I quite like the shirt.
The combination of lighting and shit camera has blown the colours right out. Look at the lion...it's so blown out that you can hardly make out what it is.
I think it'll look fantastic in real life.
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I like it, feels a bit retro! Reminds me of an shirt we had in the 90's
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If that's it im going to be gutted, I liked the one I posted with the striped collar
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What are those swirly things on the shoulders?
Save The Children logo.
Ah yes, I can see it now.
Eh? It's the Macron man.
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I like it, feels a bit retro! Reminds me of an shirt we had in the 90's
The LDV vans one? Yes, remember it.
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There's no star on the badge.
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It looks a bit 'busy' to me, but it's got the right colours in the right places from what we can see. It will do.
Hopefully I'll be seeing it for decades on photos with next seasons FA Cup winners wearing it.
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Did Macron make Weymouths kit? Looks identical to the one I'm thinking of.
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i like it. it'll look great in person.
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I liked the sneak preview picture with the striped collar, but that doesn't appear to be as evident on the real thing.
Looks decent enough though, but the yellow band at the bottom is a bit strange. I wonder what it's supposed to symbolise?
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I'll wait and see for the confirmed one to be released.
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Waiting for the post as my son's shirt is on it's way apparently!
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The colours that bad on the photo I cannot see - what colour are the sleeves ?
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Its a bit like the LDV one of 1998 - 99 and the AST 1995 - 97
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
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Can I be the first to say I don't like it?
There always has to be one :)
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Well It has a claret body, sky blue sleeves and a rampant lion on it. No shitty cheques
Pretty much perfect. Can't ask for much more from a Villa shirt
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Not bad - i'm sure the colours will look ok in real life, just not sure on the collar - if it had been stripey as expected then that would have been marvellous. I presume the underside of the collar is stripey, which seems a bit of a waste
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Our previous Nike jerseys look better.
Also I wish we could do what Liverpool did and go back to our retro badge. I really like what they did with their jersey too.
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Our previous Nike jerseys look better.
Also I wish we could do what Liverpool did and go back to our retro badge. I really like what they did with their jersey too.
I hate to have to say it about Liverpool but I agree
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Bearing in mind the assortment of stripes, chevrons and sundry fashion disasters we've endured in the past let's be grateful for what we have.
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Kakron.
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Bearing in mind the assortment of stripes, chevrons and sundry fashion disasters we've endured in the past let's be grateful for what we have.
Fair point.
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Isn't it exactly like the leaked design everyone professed to love?
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Isn't it exactly like the leaked design everyone professed to love?
Yes but in the pic the colours seem wrong, could be just the photo.
For a few mins I was convinced the collar was white! It'll probably look fine when it's revealed.
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Its a bit like the LDV one of 1998 - 99 and the AST 1995 - 97
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
I don't see why they had to change from the 1878-79 one...
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It doesn't look purple or pink which is always a good start.
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Who is this?
(http://http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
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Who is this?
(http://http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
Fixed your link.
This bloke? Doesn't look impressed
(http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
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Colours look good.
I like that yellow flourish.
Don't like the blue v bit of the neck
double trim thing on sleeves looks good
am i imagining things, or do the badges and sponsor name look lower down than usual?
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Looks much better there.
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His eyes are too close together.
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Looks a lot better in that pic. Hope that fella isn't going to get into any crap over this.
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looks really, really good. very classy.
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am i imagining things, or do the badges and sponsor name look lower down than usual?
You're not. Was just thinking the same after seeing it.
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Good shirt, love the collar. I feared the worst when Macron were announced, but thats a smart looking shirt. Will look the bollocks in long sleeves
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am i imagining things, or do the badges and sponsor name look lower down than usual?
You're not. Was just thinking the same after seeing it.
Potential nipple rubber that.
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am i imagining things, or do the badges and sponsor name look lower down than usual?
You're not. Was just thinking the same after seeing it.
Potential nipple rubber that.
Maybe he is just slouching!?
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Who is this?
(http://http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
Fixed your link.
This bloke? Doesn't look impressed
(http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
He looks miffed as he has just pulled off his Hampton - its in his left hand.
He looks like an offspring of Julian Dicks in that "West Ham shirt "
PS The yellow bit is gash !
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They're definitely cutting back on the modelling budget. Faulkner out.
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They're definitely cutting back on the modelling budget. Faulkner out.
If the shirts are really that tight fitting, I think we can count out Faulkner as a potential purchaser.
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Love the fact that it comes with a chest wig liner.
That's a pretty good looking shirt. Those daft logos on the shoulder are fairly unobtrusive and if they had to stick yellow piping anywhere (it was on the main body of last year's West Ham shirt) then the bottom is harmless enough. Wonder how the white yoke on the back looks?
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I really thought after the video and teasers it was going to have an eighties umbro style stripey collar, so my first reaction is one of disappointment I'm sorry to say. I'll be interested to see the new WHU kit and see how different they are.
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Who is this?
(http://http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
Fixed your link.
This bloke? Doesn't look impressed
(http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
He looks miffed as he has just pulled off his Hampton - its in his left hand.
He looks like an offspring of Julian Dicks in that "West Ham shirt "
PS The yellow bit is gash !
You'd think he'd trim his chest hair to stop it protruding out of the V.
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I'd have liked an extra stripe on the collar although those fasion aware poncey Italians will probably have modelled it with the collar up anyway. Don't care about the yellow stripe because on the players the shirts will be tucked in. Looks like finally the blue in the badge matches the sleeves. Only took 2 years FFS for someone to get that right. Nice kit though. I will be investing in 2012.
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I'd imagine the poor bloke didn't exactly expect to be plastered all over the internet when posing for the photo.
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Would it have killed him to have shaved this morning? Or to at least have hidden the price tag? Out!!
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I like the tea bag design on the left collar....
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I don't know what Trapatoni's being doing to the Ireland squad but Richard Dunne looks in amazing shape. Comparatively.
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I don't know what Trapatoni's being doing to the Ireland squad but Richard Dunne looks in amazing shape. Comparatively.
Top marks there! He's looking as sharp as I've seen him in a villa kit.
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He looks like Freddie Bouma's lovechild. I reckon he's probably on his way to the Job Centre any time now as well.
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Without having to trawl through the whole thread, anyone know how much it will be?
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Without having to trawl through the whole thread, anyone know how much it will be?
Your probably looking at about £45, unless you shop elsewhere.
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Without having to trawl through the whole thread, anyone know how much it will be?
Your probably looking at about £45, unless you shop elsewhere.
In order to help the Italian economy we have to pay in Euros, so how much you pay will depend on the exchange rate at the moment you get to the counter. ;D
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Who is this?
(http://http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
Fixed your link.
This bloke? Doesn't look impressed
(http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
He looks miffed as he has just pulled off his Hampton - its in his left hand.
He looks like an offspring of Julian Dicks in that "West Ham shirt "
PS The yellow bit is gash !
You'd think he'd trim his chest hair to stop it protruding out of the V.
Not sure about the yellow bit as it really stands out as not being part of the overall shirt and looks a bit out of place. I too would have liked to have seen a more prominant stripe(s) on the collar
But overall i think it looks very good indeed and i just might treat myself to one of those babies
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I like it.
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I like the tea bag design on the left collar....
That cracked me up! ha
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Clubs shops are closed on Friday
The Villa Stores at Villa Village and Birmingham New Street will both be closed on Friday.
Both stores are closed for the day ahead of this weekend's big kit launch festival when the new Villa home strip for 2012-13 will be available for the first time.
The stores will reopen on Saturday and Sunday along with two new Villa/Macron stores located outside the Directors entrance on Trinity Road.
Villa's new home kit will be available to purchase from 9am on Saturday.
The goalkeeping kit is available on Monday June 25 with the away kit going on sale on Saturday July 14.
A large selection of official training wear is also available to purchase from this weekend.
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Nice pic on face book with someone wearing it cant paste it on here though.dsame as above, just scrolled up.
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Probably the pic that's already on the thread.
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More than likely that his pre-order has arrived in the post early do you think?
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Who is this?
(http://http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
Fixed your link.
This bloke? Doesn't look impressed
(http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
He looks miffed as he has just pulled off his Hampton - its in his left hand.
He looks like an offspring of Julian Dicks in that "West Ham shirt "
PS The yellow bit is gash !
Maybe the yellows to blend in with the shorts, bright yellow shorts :o now that would be a nightmare scenario
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How long is the deal with Macron? Not too long, I hope.
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I like it. If it had had the stripey 80-81 collar it would have been top notch but still very nice in my humble opinion.
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I think it's ok. I like the basic design and the colours fit what I think a Villa shirt should be.
But I don't like the symbols on the shoulders. And the sponsor would make a mess of any shirt.
I won't be stretching one of those over my belly this season.
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He looks pissed off that he ordered the wrong size shirt.
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The yellow bit makes it look like hes wearing a yellow tee shirt underneath and was expecting the collar to look better .
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p.s how much did this signing cost and who is he
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ITSITO
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I was hoping for a re-work of the 84 season,with claret sleeves,but sod it,there will be a new one in 12 months.
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I'm a bit disappointed with that. Not a fan of the collar or the v shaped bit, and the yellow trim is just wrong. Hopefully the away shirt will be better.
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It looks like some of the mid 90's West Ham efforts, with weird collars and general naffness throughout.
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Claret body, blue sleeves.
I'm happy with that.
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you'll never see the yellow on the kit because the players will have it tucked in. It's only fat bastards that will see it because they can't tuck it in and have to wear it hanging over their belts. I'm sure the whole thing will look smarter when on the players as opposed to some bloke who looks like he had a needle in his arm the night before.
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you'll never see the yellow on the kit because the players will have it tucked in. It's only fat bastards that will see it because they can't tuck it in and have to wear it hanging over their belts. I'm sure the whole thing will look smarter when on the players as opposed to some bloke who looks like he had a needle in his arm the night before.
Lots of players wear their shirts over their shorts instead of tucking them in these days. Gabby being one.
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I'm disappointed there's no stripey collar but not too bad I suppose; at least it appears that we haven't got those bloody squares, and here's hoping that we haven't kept the black socks- not a good look in my opinion which I'll associate with the McLeish era.
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Very impressed with the Macron video hype.
Not impressed with the pics of the shirt so far.
...and can we please have a proper badge designed!!!
edit:
I pointed out the yellow band on the shirt when the vids were released and everyone ignored it...I thought it looked naff and pointless then, and it still is.
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you'll never see the yellow on the kit because the players will have it tucked in. It's only fat bastards that will see it because they can't tuck it in and have to wear it hanging over their belts. I'm sure the whole thing will look smarter when on the players as opposed to some bloke who looks like he had a needle in his arm the night before.
Lots of players wear their shirts over their shorts instead of tucking them in these days. Gabby being one.
Not at the start of the game though as the rules are they have to be tucked in. Is the shirt going to pop out at times? Off course. Not a deal breaker though, at least not in my opinion. Each to their own and all that off course. Like I said, I bet it looks better modelled on a player than on some random bloke.
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It'll be funny if the big kit reveal on the OS in 6 hours 27 minutes 38 seconds will just be a picture of that moody looking sod in the shirt.
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you'll never see the yellow on the kit because the players will have it tucked in. It's only fat bastards that will see it because they can't tuck it in and have to wear it hanging over their belts. I'm sure the whole thing will look smarter when on the players as opposed to some bloke who looks like he had a needle in his arm the night before.
Lots of players wear their shirts over their shorts instead of tucking them in these days. Gabby being one.
Not at the start of the game though as the rules are they have to be tucked in. Is the shirt going to pop out at times? Off course. Not a deal breaker though, at least not in my opinion. Each to their own and all that off course. Like I said, I bet it looks better modelled on a player than on some random bloke.
Is that really a rule? I remember some fuss about it at a World Cup years and years ago, but don't think it applies any more. I don't think Gabby ever tucks his shirt in, and certainly doesn't start the game like that, eg:
http://pictures.metro.co.uk/swansea-city-v-aston-villa-27-nov-2011/1177268/Soccer-Barclays-Premier-League-Swansea-City-v-Aston-Villa-Liberty-Stadium
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It'll be funny if the big kit reveal on the OS in 6 hours 27 minutes 38 seconds will just be a picture of that moody looking sod in the shirt.
Macron......Just Do One
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you'll never see the yellow on the kit because the players will have it tucked in. It's only fat bastards that will see it because they can't tuck it in and have to wear it hanging over their belts. I'm sure the whole thing will look smarter when on the players as opposed to some bloke who looks like he had a needle in his arm the night before.
Lots of players wear their shirts over their shorts instead of tucking them in these days. Gabby being one.
Not at the start of the game though as the rules are they have to be tucked in. Is the shirt going to pop out at times? Off course. Not a deal breaker though, at least not in my opinion. Each to their own and all that off course. Like I said, I bet it looks better modelled on a player than on some random bloke.
Is that really a rule? I remember some fuss about it at a World Cup years and years ago, but don't think it applies any more. I don't think Gabby ever tucks his shirt in, and certainly doesn't start the game like that, eg:
http://pictures.metro.co.uk/swansea-city-v-aston-villa-27-nov-2011/1177268/Soccer-Barclays-Premier-League-Swansea-City-v-Aston-Villa-Liberty-Stadium
Huh, maybe you're right. I thought that it was the rule. Maybe it has been relaxed. I really can't be arsed to go check the rulebook either.
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you'll never see the yellow on the kit because the players will have it tucked in. It's only fat bastards that will see it because they can't tuck it in and have to wear it hanging over their belts. I'm sure the whole thing will look smarter when on the players as opposed to some bloke who looks like he had a needle in his arm the night before.
Lots of players wear their shirts over their shorts instead of tucking them in these days. Gabby being one.
I'm hoping Gabby wears his red and white shirt over his black shorts next season.
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It'll be funny if the big kit reveal on the OS in 6 hours 27 minutes 38 seconds will just be a picture of that moody looking sod in the shirt.
He's obviously a fan of SHA preparing for when they no longer exist and resigning himself to the fact that he''ll have to support a good club
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Very impressed with the Macron video hype.
Not impressed with the pics of the shirt so far.
...and can we please have a proper badge designed!!!
edit:
I pointed out the yellow band on the shirt when the vids were released and everyone ignored it...I thought it looked naff and pointless then, and it still is.
dont see the point in that yellow band
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horrible, bit too league 1
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Can't wait till Saturday Dr Bike is at VP.
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We've had better and we've had worse. I could live without a few of the adornments but the main thing is that the basic design is there and we will look like Aston Villa, which hasn't always been the case in the past.
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you'll never see the yellow on the kit because the players will have it tucked in. It's only fat bastards that will see it because they can't tuck it in and have to wear it hanging over their belts. I'm sure the whole thing will look smarter when on the players as opposed to some bloke who looks like he had a needle in his arm the night before.
Richard Dunne?
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Yellow stripe = UEFA Cup winners. Possibly. Instead of or as well as a star.
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Yellow stripe = UEFA Cup winners. Possibly. Instead of or as well as a star.
Errrr .....
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I like it.
I hope the long sleeve is nice, and I'm looking forward to the away kit. Hope we took a risk with it.
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Yellow stripe = UEFA Cup winners. Possibly. Instead of or as well as a star.
Errrr .....
Ok, I know I probably did get something wrong, in the face of lots of international sets of initials ending in 'FA'! European cup, one. Champs league (europe), one. Is it the 'UEFA' bit? E is Europe... I'm struggling here!
Or is the errrrr for the stripe?!
Either way I really like the shirt.
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We haven't won the UEFA Cup Lou.
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Thanks !
Thought that that was the European cup! Doh!
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We haven't won the UEFA Cup Lou.
Alright, Mr Negative Nelly.
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Thought that the golden line on the bottom of the shirt might be saying, 'We're multiple cup winners and unbeatable EuroChampions; just watch it!'
too assertive?
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Not assertive enough. I'd like "Fuck off Small Heath, Albion, Stoke and Leeds" sewn in.
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Perhaps those sentiments are embroidered along the stripe.
I saw the video (above) of Macron designing this shirt. I can't believe that they've left that out, not with their legendary attention to club history and fine detail.
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2812092,00.html
New kit unveiled.
I don't it, looks slightly more fashionable then the nike tack. But don't know if im starting to go colour blind, the away top looks green to me but they say its blue in the description!
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2812092,00.html
New kit unveiled.
I don't it, looks slightly more fashionable then the nike tack. But don't know if im starting to go colour blind, the away top looks green to me but they say its blue in the description!
They say it's lime with blue bits.
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(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1450/53851142281415776265999.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/53851142281415776265999.jpg/)
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2812092,00.html
New kit unveiled.
I don't it, looks slightly more fashionable then the nike tack. But don't know if im starting to go colour blind, the away top looks green to me but they say its blue in the description!
They say it's lime with blue bits.
Then half way down they say this...."The vivacious away shirt, meanwhile, features a round neck design made with a knitwear profile and in navy blue colour. "....it looks lime to me. Ah....I see, the collar is blue.
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(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1450/53851142281415776265999.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/53851142281415776265999.jpg/)
Got this also in a mail moment ago. But on the website no images are visible.
Is this a "technial" mistake sent a day early?
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(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/1450/53851142281415776265999.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/53851142281415776265999.jpg/)
Got this also in a mail moment ago. But on the website no images are visible.
Is this a "technial" mistake sent a day early?
Dunno it was on facebook, as the new timeline pic on the villa profile
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The away looks great (imo) - and the striped socks. A bit Dortmund feel about it. Maybe Lambert had a say ;)
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Fuck me, 6 months for a claret shirt with blue sleeves. Italian style?????
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I reckon the video's took longer to make than the shirt
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What did you expect? A Milan shirt?
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Love the home kit and may have to get the shirt for the 1st time in years
The away kits rancid, green?!
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I like it. Don't know what all thr fuss is about. We knew it was going to be claret and blue. It's got a blue collar which I think would have been nicer with an extra stripe or two. It looks better on the players than it did on that dippy looking bloke. And the away it is very different to past years and will likely be a big seller. Each to their own and all that but it's a Villa kit.
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NO, a simple kit 81, style, or even 82
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Watching the videos I'm quite happy. Pretty traditional home and what could become an iconic away shirt. Youngest will be delighted I can buy him a goalie shirt (and green at that). Decent job Macron.
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Also, a better picture is in the photoshoot featuring Brett Holman. The kit looks a lot better in that photo. The colours look bang on to me.
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I think it look's very smart. Very Aston Villa like. The only thing that lets it down is the badge. If only that yellow lion was claret!
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Ps good to see our Aussie Player of the Year also
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Very good. I wasn't expecting to like the green shirt, but I'm impressed
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The unlocked videos for both kits are a good watch.
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Looks great there.
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Home kit looks good. Not sure I'm a fan of the away kit. Perhaps it will grow on me.
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The home is excellent in that picture. I've never really cared about what colour our away kits have been so I'm glad Macron have taken a different approach with that green. And a green goalkeeper kit looks far better than the dreadful blue thing from last season. Very pleasing all round on first glance.
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Away kit looks like a training top...should have been white.
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Looks great. Best kit for a few seasons.
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Both look great.....going to get one for myself which will be my first for a while.
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We wanted change at the club and that's what these kits give us.
Personally, I like both very much. Well done to the club and macron.
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Im unsure on the cut and which size to get as dont want it baggy. I wanted to buy online and have it printed but have no idea whether to get a medium or a small. Gonna have to go to the shop myself this weekend and check it out
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Gotta say I love the home one. Ive been waiting for a decent one since the first nike acorns one and am glad I will be wearing the claret and blue as ive bought the away ones for the past couple of seasons. As much as I love the away one i dont think the mrs would let me leave the house in it!....
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Happy with both kits after seeing the videos.
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I think it looks like a bosta - looks like ireland will be still with us then which i am pleased about - maybe we will see the best of him now we have a manager that lets players go over the half way line
Just on note - what is it with players and tattoos - i have some myself and would like to think they are tasteful but in the Euro champs some of the players just seem really plastered with them - look at the image of Chrissy herd - even has them on his hands now
Is he an Australian version of a pikey?
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Didn't think I'd like the away but after watching the videos I'm slowly warming to it, would have preferred white though.
Really like the home, like many I would have liked the stripes on the collar like the mock ups drafted a few pages back, but I think its the best shirt we've had in a long long time, has shades of the 70's shirt.
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Really like the home shirt, collar looks nice, will be the first shirt, i'm buying since first acorns one. As for the away shirt, definitely not for me, but reckon it will be a big seller with the kids, they tend to like bright clothing
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Who is this?
(http://http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
Fixed your link.
This bloke? Doesn't look impressed
(http://i48.tinypic.com/xq71e.jpg)
He looks miffed as he has just pulled off his Hampton - its in his left hand.
He looks like an offspring of Julian Dicks in that "West Ham shirt "
PS The yellow bit is gash !
Maybe the yellows to blend in with the shorts, bright yellow shorts :o now that would be a nightmare scenario
I notice that in the year planner behind him that it's Melissa from accounts birthday today. Can I be the first to wish her many happy returns of the day.
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On second viewing I'm liking both kits even more but the decision to have a large chunk of the shorts missing is confusing.
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Just seen the new kits and I think the shirt colours are wrong. For me the blue is too light and the claret a bit too dark. West Ham have always tended to have that lighter shade of blue and darker shade of claret, so to me it looks like a West Ham shirt, not a Villa shirt. The deeper blue of the socks looks about right. Away strip isn't great either.
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I think both kits are great and Im looking forward to getting mine tomorrow.
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The away kit is the better of the two, but why is it all so baggy? The shorts look like the huge ones Blackburn had in the Shearer and Sutton era.
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Just seen the new kits and I think the shirt colours are wrong. For me the blue is too light and the claret a bit too dark. West Ham have always tended to have that lighter shade of blue and darker shade of claret, so to me it looks like a West Ham shirt, not a Villa shirt. The deeper blue of the socks looks about right. Away strip isn't great either.
I tend to agree.
The blue on the shirt looks a bit washed out, if it matched the blue on the new socks, it would be right.
That said, I really like the new kit and will be getting mine soon.
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I'm going to decide after seeing it in the flesh, If I don't I'll see what training / fashion tops they have
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I like all three kits. Home, away and keeper. Well done Macron.
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Like the home shirt, but not a fan if the 'pantomime dame' hoopy socks - could've been a lot worse though
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Nice to see that the kit is out in good time for the season as has not always been the case. Things like this, plus the launch, are very good in helping to drum up ticket sales.
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Nice to see that the kit is out in good time for the season as has not always been the case. Things like this, plus the launch, are very good in helping to drum up ticket sales.
Good point and we should applaud the club and Macron!
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Nice to see that the kit is out in good time for the season as has not always been the case. Things like this, plus the launch, are very good in helping to drum up ticket sales.
Good point and we should applaud the club and Macron!
Agreed. Like the home shirt, don't care about the away but reckon they'll flog a few which is the main thing. Happy Birthday Mel.
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They are horrible kits, looks like cheap championship kit.
We look like Burnley!
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I think both kits are great. I hear people talk about disliking the collars on the home kit but I like them. They do take you back to the chamopionship winning side and I've got no complaints about that. As has been said the away kit is a bit loud but I like the thought of that. Will make a statement when Villa are wearing them. It's environmental too.
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Cant believe the negativity towards the kits. I think they look decent. wonder what the reaction would have been if it was Nike or addidas that supplied these kits? I bet the negativity wouldnt have been that bad. i just think because its Macron that people having a dig.
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Like the home shirt, but not a fan if the 'pantomime dame' hoopy socks - could've been a lot worse though
I can think of at least two moderators on here who will love those 'pantomime dame' hoopy socks, won't you, girls?
Shirt looks great.
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I like the 'Beware Of The Lions' across the official photo. There's a chant for next season.
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Best kits we've had for ages
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Cant believe the negativity towards the kits. I think they look decent. wonder what the reaction would have been if it was Nike or addidas that supplied these kits? I bet the negativity wouldnt have been that bad. i just think because its Macron that people having a dig.
Looking through the posts on this thread the majority seems to be positive.
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Away kit looks like a training top...should have been white.
Yes, the classic white away shirt with claret trim and either claret or light blue shorts looks best plus white socks with a single claret and light blue ring - they should stick with tradition!
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It says on the OS store if you are a 48 or bigger you have to wait to the 1st August 2012 for the home kit.
It might just be online orders that are affected, I anyone who is that size don't want to go tomorrow and find they dont have on sale could phone the merchandising department at club on 0871 224 111
A 48 is a XL in Nike or bigger
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It says on the OS store if you are a 48 or bigger you have to wait to the 1st August 2012 for the home kit.
At least Dunne will have his for the start of the season.
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They are horrible kits, looks like cheap championship kit.
We look like Burnley!
Not like you to complain about anything.
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I like the kits, not sure which shirt I'll get yet.
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
You might need a 48 kit because you are taller than average, kit sizes are not height be height aswell
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
If you're 48 or over then you should not own any sportswear. It is wrong.
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
If you're 48 or over then you should not own any sportswear. It is wrong.
Hear hear.
They should ask you at the till if you're older than 12 or fat and if the answer is no, then you should be refused service.
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
If you're 48 or over then you should not own any sportswear. It is wrong.
Emile Heskey wore an XXL Nike shirt does that make him fat, Some Rugby players way 18 stone does that make them fat
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Emile Heskey wore an XXL Nike shirt does that make him fat..
Fat? No but he should never have been allowed to wear a Villa shirt.
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If you need a 48 then the last thing you should be worrying about is when you can get hold of the new Villa shirt.
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
If you're 48 or over then you should not own any sportswear. It is wrong.
Hear hear.
They should ask you at the till if you're older than 12 or fat and if the answer is no, then you should be refused service.
How old are you? ;D
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
If you're 48 or over then you should not own any sportswear. It is wrong.
Hear hear.
They should ask you at the till if you're older than 12 or fat and if the answer is no, then you should be refused service.
How old are you? ;D
Somewhere in between 12 and 48.
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25?
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17?
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46?
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33?
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Is it a trick question?
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48?
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42 - thats my final offer.
What's my prize?
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Oh all right, one last go..... 27.
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I'd rather play Scrabble to be honest but 14.
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Oh I give up. You can keep your rotten prize.
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32?
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26?
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44?
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Seriously does anyone know how Macrons sizing policy works?
For normal clothes I'm a 38 or medium but football shirts don't seem to conform to the norm.
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Have I got it right yet?
28?
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I'm sure you think that this is amusing, but actually it isn't. Sorry.
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I enjoyed it. Oh well, off I go.
*flounce*
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I'm sure you think that this is amusing, but actually it isn't. Sorry.
I dunno I laughed at it - maybe I'm a bit simple...
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Pinched this off Brigada 1874's site..........
Away games wearing new away kit of course - to the tune of the city is ours:
We glow in the dark
We glow in the daaaark
We're Aston Villa
We glow in the dark
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I've just had a look at it in the shop and it looks ok. Looks pretty good on a 50ft Darren Bent too so I don't think the sizes will be an issue.
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Even the 50ft Darren Bent won't be able to score from a corner.
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They are horrible kits, looks like cheap championship kit.
We look like Burnley!
Not like you to complain about anything.
Says Mr Happy, Dave I have recent years always bought the shirt for my kids, but some non villa fans saw the picture of this and said they look like a championship kit and I have to agree
I am very happy with appointment of Lambert, just think the shirts look cheap and fussy
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I enjoyed it. Oh well, off I go.
*flounce*
Have another guess. I though it was funny.
Have you tried 39? You can have that one.
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The kit looks good.
If you're 48 or over, then lose some weight.
If you're 48 or over then you should not own any sportswear. It is wrong.
Hear hear.
They should ask you at the till if you're older than 12 or fat and if the answer is no, then you should be refused service.
How old are you? ;D
Somewhere in between 12 and 48.
I'd say 35.
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http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?selector=475
The sizes for shot sleeves only go to 48 now online which was a XL Nike shirt but the long sleeves still go to 50 and they will be available from tomorrow
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?pid=116559&portal=&cmp=
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I like the kit but will wait until the maternity version is out so I can squeeze it over my beer pouch.
Is it 31?
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They are horrible kits, looks like cheap championship kit.
We look like Burnley!
Not like you to complain about anything.
Says Mr Happy, Dave I have recent years always bought the shirt for my kids, but some non villa fans saw the picture of this and said they look like a championship kit and I have to agree
I am very happy with appointment of Lambert, just think the shirts look cheap and fussy
You really should learn to resist peer group pressure.
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Nike kits looked better and more classy.
These Macron kits don't really give off that "classy" feel. They just look like the kits we wore before we had Nike, nothing really that would make me want to buy one. They aren't bad kits though, they just don't particularly excite me enough to go out and potentially get one.
If only Macron made our kits similar to how Napoli have theirs. The cut and fit on those Napoli jerseys look great and really stand out looking just as good as any Nike or Adidas jersey.
Notice the badge and sponsor placement as well as the more athletic fitting jersey.
(http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Napoli-Manchester-City-Lavezzi.jpg)
Oh well... I'm sure I will change my mind when I actually see us play in our new kits.
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Nike kits looked better and more classy.
These Macron kits don't really give off that "classy" feel. They just look like the kits we wore before we had Nike, nothing really that would make me want to buy one. They aren't bad kits though, they just don't particularly excite me enough to go out and potentially get one.
If only Macron made our kits similar to how Napoli have theirs. The cut and fit on those Napoli jerseys look great and really stand out looking just as good as any Nike or Adidas jersey.
Notice the badge and sponsor placement as well as the more athletic fitting jersey.
(http://forzaitalianfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Napoli-Manchester-City-Lavezzi.jpg)
Oh well... I'm sure I will change my mind when I actually see us play in our new kits.
The athletic fitting jersey ? That rules a few of us out then ! I seem to remember o post on here that said and i quote "football shirts are for kids and fat blokes". If that is the case can't Macron make a shirt with a detachable beer belly holder for those of us who are not in peak physical condition and like a few real ales before and after a game ? Oh, and a good portion of fish and chips instead of bottled water and fuckin salad !!
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Pinched this off Brigada 1874's site..........
Away games wearing new away kit of course - to the tune of the city is ours:
We glow in the dark
We glow in the daaaark
We're Aston Villa
We glow in the dark
Genius!
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Is the new shirt in the club shop or just in the on line shop?
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Both shops are closed today in readiness for tomorrow.
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Got friends coming out on Sunday just wondered if there would be any left on Saturday afternoon so they could pick me one up,the athletic fitting variety of course.
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Don't think you'll have a problem Dan, I hear they have plenty in Richard Dunne's size. ;)
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Don't think you'll have a problem Dan, I hear they have plenty in Richard Dunne's size. ;)
Thank you my fellow svelt Villa fan.
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Theres been a big lets go retro and I love the 80s kits, and now we have the I hate the collars brigade.
As far as Im concerned its a claret and blue shirt with an Aston Villa badge on it and so long as we turn and play on a saturday then Im happy. Oh and if my memory serves me correctly, we won the league and European Cup with collars so hopefully thats gonna bring us some luck.
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They are horrible kits, looks like cheap championship kit.
We look like Burnley!
Not like you to complain about anything.
Says Mr Happy, Dave I have recent years always bought the shirt for my kids, but some non villa fans saw the picture of this and said they look like a championship kit and I have to agree
I am very happy with appointment of Lambert, just think the shirts look cheap and fussy
What makes one kit look like a championship kit and another look like a premiership kit ? Apart from a Small Heath crest of course .
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Have we had the answer yet?
Is it Trevor Francis Tone? Or 1968?
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Have we had the answer yet?
He has guessed the right answer.
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I really like the look of them.
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I like it and think the club have done well with the event this weekend.
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Theres been a big lets go retro and I love the 80s kits, and now we have the I hate the collars brigade.
As far as Im concerned its a claret and blue shirt with an Aston Villa badge on it and so long as we turn and play on a saturday then Im happy. Oh and if my memory serves me correctly, we won the league and European Cup with collars so hopefully thats gonna bring us some luck.
And the 94 & 96 League cups.
Lost the 2000 FA cup though, without collars.
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A WHU supporting colleague pointed me to their Knees Up Mother Brown website. Amongst the same conjecture we enjoy on here, this is what their ITK think it's going to look like:
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad219/grazeapat/Espio3.jpg)
Comically they also accuse us of nicking their colours!
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They are horrible kits, looks like cheap championship kit.
We look like Burnley!
Not like you to complain about anything.
Says Mr Happy, Dave I have recent years always bought the shirt for my kids, but some non villa fans saw the picture of this and said they look like a championship kit and I have to agree
I am very happy with appointment of Lambert, just think the shirts look cheap and fussy
What makes one kit look like a championship kit and another look like a premiership kit ? Apart from a Small Heath crest of course .
when it looks like it is trying to hard, this one looks like it was made for Weymouth.
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Pinched this off Brigada 1874's site..........
Away games wearing new away kit of course - to the tune of the city is ours:
To the tune of Sloop John B.
"The City Is Ours" isn't a tune.
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Not sure why the Villa have not shown the away kit off on the Villa shop but the link below shows the shirt (it is a lemon/lime colour) being modelled by stephen Ireland
http://www.kit.avfc.co.uk/kit
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when it looks like it is trying to hard, this one looks like it was made for Weymouth.
Nothing wrong with Weymouth: part-owned by a Villa fan (a mate of mine, in fact).
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On the OS Holman is wearing his new shirt but looks really pissed off about something or is that the mean and moody look?
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does anyone know if you take your reciept for your season ticket do you get the 10% discount?
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when it looks like it is trying to hard, this one looks like it was made for Weymouth.
Nothing wrong with Weymouth: part-owned by a Villa fan (a mate of mine, in fact).
No offence to Weymouth, and your mate sounds like top bloke. UTV
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Pinched this off Brigada 1874's site..........
Away games wearing new away kit of course - to the tune of the city is ours:
To the tune of Sloop John B.
"The City Is Ours" isn't a tune.
Thanks for the pedantry Dave. I didn't write the post just copy and paste. ;)
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does anyone know if you take your reciept for your season ticket do you get the 10% discount?
Just give them your client reference number.
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Wonder why the first-choice shirt has a collar and the nuclear shirt is collarless - any obvious reason for this inconsistency?
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Anyone seen any of the new training gear?
I'm in the market for a tasteful polo shirt and assumed this would be on the online store at the same time as the kit.
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Anyone seen any of the new training gear?
I'm in the market for a tasteful polo shirt and assumed this would be on the online store at the same time as the kit.
Macrons leisure gear is genuinely hideous. Have a look at the WHU and Leeds sites.
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I went into the shop in town today. Shirts look better than the pics but still not convinced. The away does look a tad glow in the dark. Training/leisure stuff looked a bit pants if i'm honest. And a lot of it was blue.
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I must say a massive well done to the club today for the kit launch festival, lots going on, plenty of people there despite the shit weather. Music was good and loads for the kids to do.
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The fit of the home shirt looks a bit baggy to me, but it's a nice design and I quite like the away kit - It's something different and they're a huge improvement on last year's horror show.
I love the blue socks on the home kit too!
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I nipped down about 5pm to get mine tonight. Shirt is much nicer in the flesh in my opinion and the fit for myself is much better than Nikes. The medium is much better for any gym goers than the tiny mediums in Nike
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A nice touch is if you dont like the collar you can fold it inside the kit when you have it one and it looks like a normal v-neck
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I think it's awful. The fit, yellow piping and horrible logo on the shoulders being the particularly worst bits. The collar looks a bit naff too.
They pay more than Nike (Everton getting 600k apparently) so I don't blame the club, and the hype from the marketing videos were fun, but the kit is terrible.
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I think we'll miss Nike. The all around package, including leisure gear, was good in my view. Could never understand the grief Nike got here.
The collar on the new Macron kit isn't what it might have been. If they were basing it on the 80/81 kit they should have went the whole hog and given us a proper striped collar.
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I'll wait to see the shirt myself before making a judgement but by the sounds of it the finished article doesnt live up to the hype and expectations from the videos...the collar, the yellow trim, the colours and the actual fit have all been criticised so far. Personally I'm most disappointed with the baggy fit rather than the modern slim design we were expecting.
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Fits like a bin bag, is it actually claret? Looks more purple to me?
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I'll wait to see the shirt myself before making a judgement but by the sounds of it the finished article doesnt live up to the hype and expectations from the videos...the collar, the yellow trim, the colours and the actual fit have all been criticised so far. Personally I'm most disappointed with the baggy fit rather than the modern slim design we were expecting.
Everyone will think bits of it could be better and some will never be satisfied by anything but the general concensus today was that it's a decent design.
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It's been a few years since I last bought a shirt but it sounds like this one would be good for me - the baggy fit would certainly suit my less than slender figure!
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I think we'll miss Nike. The all around package, including leisure gear, was good in my view. Could never understand the grief Nike got here.
To release the shirt in the shops months after the season starts is shoddy at best. Good riddance to them.
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I think we'll miss Nike. The all around package, including leisure gear, was good in my view. Could never understand the grief Nike got here.
To release the shirt in the shops months after the season starts is shoddy at best. Good riddance to them.
That was poor. I'm just saying the era as a whole will be looked back on fondly...the stuff looks good.
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I think if most fans were to design it themselves the basic premise would be almost identical to the new home one - claret body, blue sleeves and a Villa badge. I think it's going to be one of those kits that looks better when the players are wearing it in a game.
I haven't bought a new home or away shirt since 1998/99 (plenty of retro and training gear) but this is the closest I've come in the meantime to being genuinely interested in getting a current one. I think Macron have done a great job with regards to marketing the kits and the fact that they're available at an early stage is encouraging - I think it shows that a bit of thought has gone into it as opposed to Nike's attitude that seemed to be "Oh, give them another old PSV template and let them buy it at Xmas."
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I think we'll miss Nike. The all around package, including leisure gear, was good in my view. Could never understand the grief Nike got here.
To release the shirt in the shops months after the season starts is shoddy at best. Good riddance to them.
That was poor. I'm just saying the era as a whole will be looked back on fondly...the stuff looks good.
The Nike kits were nothing special.
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I think we'll miss Nike. The all around package, including leisure gear, was good in my view. Could never understand the grief Nike got here.
To release the shirt in the shops months after the season starts is shoddy at best. Good riddance to them.
That was poor. I'm just saying the era as a whole will be looked back on fondly...the stuff looks good.
The Nike kits were nothing special.
The first three were good. I really liked the 07/08 one.
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The styling of the new shirt seems closer to the Macron shirts of West Ham and Leeds than Napoli, which is disappointing. Having said that, as long as the shirt has a claret body and blue sleeves I'm relatively happy. For this reason I was relatively happy with all the Nike kits. Having said that, the only ones that I was tempted to buy were...
(http://www.colours-of-football.com/colours03/eng/a_villa/eng_avilla_1_0809.gif)(http://www.colours-of-football.com/colours03/eng/a_villa/eng_avilla_1_0910.gif)(http://www.colours-of-football.com/colours03/eng/a_villa/eng_avilla_2_0910.gif)(http://www.colours-of-football.com/colours03/eng/a_villa/eng_avilla_1_1112.png)(http://www.colours-of-football.com/colours03/eng/a_villa/eng_avilla_2_1112.png)
...which I think were all simple, and stylish (for polyester). Generally, changing kit design every season seems to heighten the need for 'difference' relative to what has gone before. Frivolous features such as yellow piping, or chequered patterns therefore become more critical. It must be difficult to come up with something original every year without deviating a little.
The Nike deal did have some prestige, but the recurring problems with release dates were unacceptable. They must have affected sales, and they also demonstrated where we sat in Nike's list of priorities. Therefore the club have definitely done the right thing in shopping around - and the size of the deal shows Macron's commitment to the project.
I don't buy every shirt, and without having seen it in the flesh I don't think I'm tempted to buy this one, but I'm certainly happy for the team to be wearing it on the pitch.
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After listening to that impressive Italian chap with the scarf wax lyrical about the "pre-production" I was expecting a bead of Dennis Mortimer's spring '81 sweat in every shirt so to say it's a let-down would be putting it midly.
Seriously though, not bad at all. I don't like the Macron logo - a pity that their name with logo incorporated isn't sufficient and another stripe on the collar, which I like, would have been a more fitting homage to the boys of 1981 as was hinted at before. Yellow piping is a bit quirky but as has been mentioned it must be difficult to think of something slightly different every 12 months when every version must adhere to claret body and blue sleeves at all times.
A solid seven out of ten, kits usually look more impressive close-up.
As an aside, Holman's first mutterings as a Villa player on the video weren't exactly inspiring were they?!
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Look ok, but not as good as some of the Nike kits. Don't really like the collars, and as others have said the away top looks like straining top. I find it hard to see us playing well in that top for some reason!
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Well, I think its decent. Not earth shattering but no worse than the Nike shirts and better than a few of those. I like the away kits belligerence.
Also, the support and overall package is much better for Villa. Nike can go and shite.
A shirt will be thought of fondly if the team does well in it. So lets hope we look back on this shirt with teary nostalgia.
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I think we'll miss Nike. The all around package, including leisure gear, was good in my view. Could never understand the grief Nike got here.
To release the shirt in the shops months after the season starts is shoddy at best. Good riddance to them.
That was poor. I'm just saying the era as a whole will be looked back on fondly...the stuff looks good.
The Nike kits were nothing special.
I thought they were cack. This new shirt looks the best we've had for years.
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I've got the last three years. Only the 09-10 I still like. Last years is horrible and I regret buying it completely.
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On a separate note, that band 'Swim Deep' are really good. Just been listening to their stuff on youtube this morning.
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I've got the last three years. Only the 09-10 I still like. Last years is horrible and I regret buying it completely.
I hardly ever wore last season's home kit, it did'nt seem to fit me properly for start, but the medium away version was fine.
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On a separate note, that band 'Swim Deep' are really good. Just been listening to their stuff on youtube this morning.
Yes they are, if you like them check out another Birmingham band called Peace, recently signed to Columbia Records. In signing to Columbia they got the record label to put up this billboard in Digbeth
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/524485_321468617925321_1449233713_n.jpg)
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Does anyone know whether we will be keeping these kits for the next 2 years? Or will it be changing again next year?
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as others have said the away top looks like straining top. I find it hard to see us playing well in that top for some reason!
If we can manage more than 3 away wins in it that'll be a start!
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Do we know what price Macron paid us to be our shirt provider? Wasn't he Nike deal worth £25m over 5 years?
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Does anyone know whether we will be keeping these kits for the next 2 years? Or will it be changing again next year?
We've changed the kit every year for ages now, I can't see us reverting to a two year shirt life somehow.
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Keeping a kit for two years makes absolutely no commercial sense.
A new choice every season with the option to opt out is how it should be.
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Keeping a kit for two years makes absolutely no commercial sense.
A new choice every season with the option to opt out is how it should be.
Indeed Maz. I think there was once a fans' charter that said that kits should be retained for two years, but if it even still exists it's the most contravened law of all time. If you don't want a new kit every year, don't buy one. I still wear my AST shirt for five-a-side.
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On a separate note, that band 'Swim Deep' are really good. Just been listening to their stuff on youtube this morning.
Yes they are, if you like them check out another Birmingham band called Peace, recently signed to Columbia Records. In signing to Columbia they got the record label to put up this billboard in Digbeth
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/524485_321468617925321_1449233713_n.jpg)
Thanks for that, I'll be sure to check them out too. Always great to see some fresh, musical talent emerge.
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Did I read correctly someone said they find it hard to see us play well in that shirt? I lose the will to go on when I read some of the shit 'fans' come out with..
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I think what some of you are forgetting is that the new shirt is based on the 1981 jersey, it is not a remake. When they put the effort in to the design of the new shirt they still had to make it original and unique. For Aston Villa, Macron, and the fans, it would not make any logical sense to create an exact re-make of a 30 year old jersey. As a consumer and fan we should be pleased that the shirt is something that hasn't just come from a cookie-cutter template. Personally that's the biggest win-point. I also find it amazing to have a new shirt months before the start of the season. I will be able to wear it in before the first game!
I, personally, love the new shirt. I was at Villa Park yesterday. I had a quick check over and I felt the quality of the shirts before buying one and it was much better than the cheap crap Nike shipped out to us. I've purchased every home shirt since Nike began the deal (I'm starting a collection) and this is by far the best in terms of quality. As I actually wanted to wear this one (as opposed to last seasons home jersey) I purchased the next size up so it fit a bit better, and I could wear it on the over clothing in the colder weather.
I also got me and my mate a brilliant furry hat for £1, so it's not all doom-and-gloom!
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Looks good on the players even the away one I like , I think the first pic I saw with the bloke in it , just put me off at first .
But I am warming to them both . without the Genting on , it looks quite retro .
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I like it, bought one from VP on Saturday.
However had I not recently lost over a stone in weight I think I may not have fitted the shirt.
The XXL size is just about ok for me!
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has anyone seen the long sleeve yet? I usually prefer them to the short sleeve shirt, but I'm curious to see what the cuffs looks like.
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Went to Cosford airshow today and saw a young lad with it on, i like what I saw to be honest.
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Went to Cosford airshow today and saw a young lad with it on, i like what I saw to be honest.
The shirt, not the young lad..... For the record.
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Went to Cosford airshow today and saw a young lad with it on, i like what I saw to be honest.
The shirt, not the young lad..... For the record.
Thanks for clearing that up!
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I saw the shirts in the flesh in the town centre shop on saturday. I like both of them but i do wish that they would iron them before putting them on show - without sounding like a bit of a girl but they do look a bit "raggy" when just thrown on a hanger - they looked like they should have been over the road at Primark and so looked a bit cheap.
I do hoever think that with another stripe on the collar it could have been almost perfect.
As others have said if we win a higher percentage of games i could not care if they wore bin bags to be honest
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It's a bit fussier than I'd have liked - the collar / neck bit could probably have been a bit simpler - but anything I don't like about the design is way of the level of making me think it's horrible.
Look at those ones we had two years ago from Nike, the ones with the checkered panels down the side. They were truly horrible. I never bought one (too old, innit) so didn't get to examine them massively closely, but they also looked to be really low quality materials, too.
The sponsor name on that one looked like they do on the knock-off shirts you see on market stalls in Europe.
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Personally I think it looks better once the collar has been tucked in. I also think that it is much better quality than the Nike shirt last year and feels nicer on. All in all I'm pleased
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What would happen if (for example) we were to sign a Muslim player who was opposed to wearing a gambling logo on his shirt?
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What would happen if (for example) we were to sign a Muslim player who was opposed to wearing a gambling logo on his shirt?
Happened with Kanoute at Sevilla. Eventually they agreed to make a large donation to a charity he chose. He had been threatening to cover the sponsor with tape.
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My youngest son got his new shirt on Saturday via Royal Mail. I think it looks good in a retro sort of way and harks back to the colour of shirts we had in the seventies and early eighties. My wife did wonder about the yellow on the bottom of the shirt as it does seem a bit pointless! Overall a good style though. Well done to all concerned on the launch as well!
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What would happen if (for example) we were to sign a Muslim player who was opposed to wearing a gambling logo on his shirt?
Happened with Kanoute at Sevilla. Eventually they agreed to make a large donation to a charity he chose. He had been threatening to cover the sponsor with tape.
Didn't know that. Interesting.
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has anyone seen the long sleeve yet? I usually prefer them to the short sleeve shirt, but I'm curious to see what the cuffs looks like.
The cuffs are actually cuffs, if you know what I mean? The shirt doesn't just come to an end like with Nike.
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has anyone seen the long sleeve yet? I usually prefer them to the short sleeve shirt, but I'm curious to see what the cuffs looks like.
The cuffs are actually cuffs, if you know what I mean? The shirt doesn't just come to an end like with Nike.
I did notice that ... it was a nice little touch. Looked like a proper sleeve as opposed to an extension, as Nike's were.
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Has anyone else got a large short sleeve home shirt, if so have any of you noticed your Genting logo is slighty off centre and on a bit of a slant?
If not, Im taking mine back as it looks like it was printed by a blind man.
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Went to buy mine today from my local sports shop in Evesham. Saw it it the window and was instantly disappointed by the colours, looked like a Burnley shirt, whats happened to the claret. Its gone ''pinkish'' again.( Does it compare with that awful NTL all claret shirt.) Tried it on, normally an XL but found it very short in length. The material was very light and clingy, so for someone like me who doesn't own a six pack, it didn't do my (lack of) figure much good. I tend to pull my collar up so pulled it up and because its two separate bits of material, it just looked stupid. Walked out the shop £45 still in my wallet. Not impressed Macron.
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Bump
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Interesting.
So far I've seen: the claret's too light, the claret's too dark, the claret's just the right shade, the claret's too pink, the fit's too tight, the fit's too baggy.
Either quality control is way out of whack or there's an opinion for everything...
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Bought the long sleeved home shirt in the New St. shop yesterday afternoon, and very nice it is too.
Just one note of caution about the sizes. All my non football shirts and t-shirts are medium and are a good fit so I thought a medium size would be ok. When I held it against myself it was obvious it would be too big so I bought the small instead, got home tried it on and the body is a good fit but my arms need to be a couple of inches longer.
Either I've shrunk in the wash or Macrons sizing policy is a bit off.
All in all though a very good shirt. And yes I do know old men shouldn't wear football shirts but what the heck you're only old once. :)
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I thought the same thing when I went in the New St shop yesterday.
A medium in the Nike shirts was a perfect fit.
The Macron Medium looks big.
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Do they allow you to try the shirts on in either the New St or Villa Park stores?
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Do they allow you to try the shirts on in either the New St or Villa Park stores?
Villa Park they do.
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Do they allow you to try the shirts on in either the New St or Villa Park stores?
Not sure. But a female friend of mine is going to New St. sometime today, when I told her over the phone about the sizes seeming a bit out she said no problem she'll buy the one she thinks will fit and then whip off her top try the shirt on and if it doesn't fit take it back to the counter and ask for an exchange. 8)
Mind you she has the body to get away with that........I haven't. ;D
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Do they allow you to try the shirts on in either the New St or Villa Park stores?
Not sure. But a female friend of mine is going to New St. sometime today, when I told her over the phone about the sizes seeming a bit out she said no problem she'll buy the one she thinks will fit and then whip off her top try the shirt on and if it doesn't fit take it back to the counter and ask for an exchange. 8)
Mind you she has the body to get away with that........I haven't. ;D
What time is she going? <drool>
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Do they allow you to try the shirts on in either the New St or Villa Park stores?
Not sure. But a female friend of mine is going to New St. sometime today, when I told her over the phone about the sizes seeming a bit out she said no problem she'll buy the one she thinks will fit and then whip off her top try the shirt on and if it doesn't fit take it back to the counter and ask for an exchange. 8)
Mind you she has the body to get away with that........I haven't. ;D
What time is she going? <drool>
I hope it's soon. The staff are beginning to question why i've been in the shop for the last 4 hours with binoculars and a camera.
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
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Do they allow you to try the shirts on in either the New St or Villa Park stores?
Not sure. But a female friend of mine is going to New St. sometime today, when I told her over the phone about the sizes seeming a bit out she said no problem she'll buy the one she thinks will fit and then whip off her top try the shirt on and if it doesn't fit take it back to the counter and ask for an exchange. 8)
Mind you she has the body to get away with that........I haven't. ;D
What time is she going? <drool>
I hope it's soon. The staff are beginning to question why i've been in the shop for the last 4 hours with binoculars and a camera.
Like an old pair of curtains at a murder site, I find myself inexplicably drawn.
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Should I mention it's a Titi Camara?
*i'll get me coat*
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Do they allow you to try the shirts on in either the New St or Villa Park stores?
Not sure. But a female friend of mine is going to New St. sometime today, when I told her over the phone about the sizes seeming a bit out she said no problem she'll buy the one she thinks will fit and then whip off her top try the shirt on and if it doesn't fit take it back to the counter and ask for an exchange. 8)
Mind you she has the body to get away with that........I haven't. ;D
What time is she going? <drool>
I hope it's soon. The staff are beginning to question why i've been in the shop for the last 4 hours with binoculars and a camera.
Like an old pair of curtains at a murder site, I find myself inexplicably drawn.
Sorry guys I don't know if she's going during her lunch break or after work.
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I think the colours are absolutely spot on, much better than what we've been given by Nike.
With regards to sizes, the shirts are coming up a little longer on people. However, the general feedback I received (I worked at VV for the Launch Weekend) was that if they were a medium last year, both the Small and Medium were comfortable for them, not general length/fit, but also on the shoulders.
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I have to say that the colours look bang on to me also. Not everything is perfect. I'd have liked the collar to have a stripe or two folded down like 81. Still it will never be for everyone. I will be getting the away because it is very different to anything we've had in the past few years. I would love it if the club gave us a non sponsor option but I also understand given their commercial obligations with Genting why they wouldn't offer that for adults.
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
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Has anyone else got a large short sleeve home shirt, if so have any of you noticed your Genting logo is slighty off centre and on a bit of a slant?
If not, Im taking mine back as it looks like it was printed by a blind man.
Just me then.... Typical.
Took it back to VP today, changed it without any fuss, sounds like they have had a few with dodgy printing, so if you are yet to get yours, check it before you leave the store.
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has anyone seen the long sleeve yet? I usually prefer them to the short sleeve shirt, but I'm curious to see what the cuffs looks like.
The cuffs are actually cuffs, if you know what I mean? The shirt doesn't just come to an end like with Nike.
I did notice that ... it was a nice little touch. Looked like a proper sleeve as opposed to an extension, as Nike's were.
Awesome. Does anyone have a picture of it.. it's still not available through the online club shop.
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
I loved that shirt.
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
I loved that shirt.
I can just imagine the outrage now if we were given a shirt that was the same design as at least three other clubs in the Premier League.
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Just in the club shop now.
Sorry to say the whole range from Macron looks like Tat.
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Just in the club shop now.
Sorry to say the whole range from Macron looks like Tat.
Keep your dole money for something else then ;D
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Just in the club shop now.
Sorry to say the whole range from Macron looks like Tat.
Keep your dole money for something else then ;D
If i can get to VP when i want, i've probably got a better job than you, Princess.
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Just in the club shop now.
Sorry to say the whole range from Macron looks like Tat.
Keep your dole money for something else then ;D
If i can get to VP when i want, i've probably got a better job than you, Princess.
Miaow.
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I pick up dog-shit in Aston Park, but it's a great job as i can get to Villa Park whenever I want.
I'm not made to feel at all welcome in the club shop though - and they never let me try anything on.
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I pick up dog-shit in Aston Park, but it's a great job as i can get to Villa Park whenever I want.
I'm not made to feel at all welcome in the club shop though - and they never let me try anything on.
I wouldn't make you feel welcome in my shop if you come in covered in dog shit!
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
I loved that shirt.
I can just imagine the outrage now if we were given a shirt that was the same design as at least three other clubs in the Premier League.
Would depend on the quality of the design, I guess.
The first Nike home kit in 2007/08 was not disimilar to the Arsenal efforts from around that time. That shirt will probably be remembered as a classic in a few years - if it isn't already.
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
I loved that shirt.
I can just imagine the outrage now if we were given a shirt that was the same design as at least three other clubs in the Premier League.
Man Utd,Southampton and Sheff Wed.Where can I collect my prize?
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
I loved that shirt.
I can just imagine the outrage now if we were given a shirt that was the same design as at least three other clubs in the Premier League.
Man Utd,Southampton and Sheff Wed.Where can I collect my prize?
Yes for Man U, however IIRC it was Sheff Utd not Wednesday with the drawstring shirt. Definitely not Southampton either - they were Pony (literally) not Umbro.
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Yep right colours wrong club.I can remember a blue and white one.I am off to find it.
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Ipswich Town?
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Ipswich Town?
Bingo!
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
I loved that shirt.
I can just imagine the outrage now if we were given a shirt that was the same design as at least three other clubs in the Premier League.
Man Utd,Southampton and Sheff Wed.Where can I collect my prize?
Yes for Man U, however IIRC it was Sheff Utd not Wednesday with the drawstring shirt. Definitely not Southampton either - they were Pony (literally) not Umbro.
As an owner of the original of that Villa shirt, I have to say I think they've done a terrible job replicating it. The fabric is different, the hologram effect thing is different and most obviously, the sponsor is nowhere to be seen. I'm sorry to be a pedant and if you're happy with it that's what matters, but I was disappointed with it.
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re the sponsor thing, the current club sponsors would not be at all pleased to see anyone producing replica villa shirts with anyone's name on the front but their own.
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re the sponsor thing, the current club sponsors would not be at all pleased to see anyone producing replica villa shirts with anyone's name on the front but their own.
The Villa shop still sells the 82/83 shirt with Davenports on it.
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Isn't it to do with Mita not existing now or something like that?
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saw the new kit in the city centre shop yesterday. Really nice feel/look
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re the sponsor thing, the current club sponsors would not be at all pleased to see anyone producing replica villa shirts with anyone's name on the front but their own.
The Villa shop still sells the 82/83 shirt with Davenports on it.
Do they really? That is a surprise. I didnt know that.
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re the sponsor thing, the current club sponsors would not be at all pleased to see anyone producing replica villa shirts with anyone's name on the front but their own.
The Villa shop still sells the 82/83 shirt with Davenports on it.
Do they really? That is a surprise. I didnt know that.
Click me (http://www.lovellworldsoccerstore.co.uk/products/12088.jpg)
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I pick up dog-shit in Aston Park, but it's a great job as i can get to Villa Park whenever I want.
I'm not made to feel at all welcome in the club shop though - and they never let me try anything on.
You haven't accidentally left your gloves in my sports holdall have you? There's something in there that doesn't belong.
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I've been hunting high and low for those gloves, best pair I've ever had.
They fit me like a ... oh forget it.
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re the sponsor thing, the current club sponsors would not be at all pleased to see anyone producing replica villa shirts with anyone's name on the front but their own.
The Villa shop still sells the 82/83 shirt with Davenports on it.
And the 93/94 shirt with Muller on.
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I've been vocally happy with the shirts, went to buy one today. Tried it on. Ended up buying this
(http://www.scoredraw.com/Resources/Shirts/ProductSmall/3632103431ee49c3aafe9d634677a8d2.jpg)
instead. Happy with my decision too. Something just seemed off about the new shirt when I had it on. I really can't put my finger on what, though.
Deanotastic
Have to say that it's one of my least favorite shirts. Just behind the green and Black striped away top.
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re the sponsor thing, the current club sponsors would not be at all pleased to see anyone producing replica villa shirts with anyone's name on the front but their own.
The Villa shop still sells the 82/83 shirt with Davenports on it.
Do they really? That is a surprise. I didnt know that.
Click me (http://www.lovellworldsoccerstore.co.uk/products/12088.jpg)
I now want one of those.
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re the sponsor thing, the current club sponsors would not be at all pleased to see anyone producing replica villa shirts with anyone's name on the front but their own.
The Villa shop still sells the 82/83 shirt with Davenports on it.
Do they really? That is a surprise. I didnt know that.
Click me (http://www.lovellworldsoccerstore.co.uk/products/12088.jpg)
I now want one of those.
The long sleeved version is ace. and of course underneath the badge in gold letters are the glorious words 'CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE'.
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What's the general consensus on the hi-viz away top
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Just an observation,i notice the baby kit has a stripe on the collar.Wonder if i can stretch it to a 42 inch chest!
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy191/villan2010/villa-116568.jpg)
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Just an observation,i notice the baby kit has a stripe on the collar.Wonder if i can stretch it to a 42 inch chest!
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy191/villan2010/villa-116568.jpg)
makes me broody
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Just an observation,i notice the baby kit has a stripe on the collar.Wonder if i can stretch it to a 42 inch chest!
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy191/villan2010/villa-116568.jpg)
Isn't that Bannan's strip?
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I have a complaint about the new kit and thst is it is too long I have tried a 2xl a 3xl and a 4xl but they all fit like a dress. Despite being 3 different sizes they all are the same length and fit almost the same.
Anyone else having problems with the kit length as I will email the club tomorrow about it. I have spoken to other people who ahve the same problem. Even in the OS pic it looks really long.
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That's not fair. I want a stripey collar! Stupid babies!
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I have a complaint about the new kit and thst is it is too long I have tried a 2xl a 3xl and a 4xl but they all fit like a dress. Despite being 3 different sizes they all are the same length and fit almost the same.
Anyone else having problems with the kit length as I will email the club tomorrow about it. I have spoken to other people who ahve the same problem. Even in the OS pic it looks really long.
hmmm
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I have a complaint about the new kit and thst is it is too long I have tried a 2xl a 3xl and a 4xl but they all fit like a dress. Despite being 3 different sizes they all are the same length and fit almost the same.
Anyone else having problems with the kit length as I will email the club tomorrow about it. I have spoken to other people who ahve the same problem. Even in the OS pic it looks really long.
The sizes are so big in fact I would purchase the small IF I was buying one
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This kit strikes me as one of our worst in a few years
Like the socks though
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I've just bought my first new shirt since the Acorns one. I like it even though I agree it is a bit long.
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That's not fair. I want a stripey collar! Stupid babies!
The collar is the same on the adult version.
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Just an observation,i notice the baby kit has a stripe on the collar.Wonder if i can stretch it to a 42 inch chest!
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy191/villan2010/villa-116568.jpg)
Isn't that Bannan's strip?
dont know , but Alan Wright was buying one the other day .
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What's the general consensus on the hi-viz away top
Saw it in the flesh for the first time today down at Villa Park. I really like it. I don't buy replica shirts (or at least, not nylon ones) but if I did, I'd buy that one.
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That's not fair. I want a stripey collar! Stupid babies!
The collar is the same on the adult version.
Actually on looking at it again I don't think it is. When I looked at it when I was wearing it I could see a stripe but then when I took it off it was more inside the neckline.
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Not sure if I've seen it on this thread but I note that the away keeper shirt is the same as the home but orange.... my aspiring goalkeeper of a son loves it! on the new VillaDirect site
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?pid=116585&portal=&cmp= (http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?pid=116585&portal=&cmp=)
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Not sure if I've seen it on this thread but I note that the away keeper shirt is the same as the home but orange.... my aspiring goalkeeper of a son loves it! on the new VillaDirect site
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?pid=116585&portal=&cmp= (http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?pid=116585&portal=&cmp=)
It's £50. Jesus!
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Any news on when the Macron leisure wear will be available online? Be interested to see some of the other options.
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Not sure if I've seen it on this thread but I note that the away keeper shirt is the same as the home but orange.... my aspiring goalkeeper of a son loves it! on the new VillaDirect site
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?pid=116585&portal=&cmp= (http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/kit_selector.aspx?pid=116585&portal=&cmp=)
It's £50. Jesus!
Love love love love love the away-goalie shorts!
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Tuck in collars?
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2514/sdc11548.png)
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Tuck in collars?
I tried wearing it with the collar tucked in and it was a bit uncomfortable.
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I know this is to do with the new kit, but does anybody know why a lot of last season's for sale shirts are missing the Genting logo? I've been in to JJB and Sports Direct over the past few days and as they're selling off last season's stuff pretty cheaply, I have been tempted. But the shirts they have are plain and I wondered if anybody knew why?
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I know this is to do with the new kit, but does anybody know why a lot of last season's for sale shirts are missing the Genting logo? I've been in to JJB and Sports Direct over the past few days and as they're selling off last season's stuff pretty cheaply, I have been tempted. But the shirts they have are plain and I wondered if anybody knew why?
on the kids shirts they cannot show gambling sponsors
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I know this is to do with the new kit, but does anybody know why a lot of last season's for sale shirts are missing the Genting logo? I've been in to JJB and Sports Direct over the past few days and as they're selling off last season's stuff pretty cheaply, I have been tempted. But the shirts they have are plain and I wondered if anybody knew why?
IIRC it was something to do with shirts already being in production by the time we had finalised the sponsorship deal. That's what I was told when I asked about it.
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Both stores were selling shirts without the logo all the way through last season...its obviously left over stock.
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Home kit on sale at B'ham Airport in the JD store in Departures and a couple of retors including the Muller top and Deano old fashioned shirt.
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I know this is to do with the new kit, but does anybody know why a lot of last season's for sale shirts are missing the Genting logo? I've been in to JJB and Sports Direct over the past few days and as they're selling off last season's stuff pretty cheaply, I have been tempted. But the shirts they have are plain and I wondered if anybody knew why?
IIRC it was something to do with shirts already being in production by the time we had finalised the sponsorship deal. That's what I was told when I asked about it.
Correct. Due to the f*** up the year before with our shirts not being sold until November, Nike pulled their finger out and started creating the shirts earlier, in time for the season. The sponsorship deal was not finalised until late June (correct me if I'm wrong) when the first batch of shirts were already made.
AVFC offered to print the logo on the shirts at no extra cost, if you had purchased a plain one.
What they are selling now must be the left overs of the start of the season.
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Why do our shirts look so baggy on the players compared to the Napoli ones?
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Why do our shirts look so baggy on the players compared to the Napoli ones?
They did computer models of Richard Dunne in a Napoli style shirt?
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Why do our shirts look so baggy on the players compared to the Napoli ones?
May be their players wear the wrong size shirts so they look tight fitting? ;D
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Are the shirts being sold in sports direct? Prices?
Thanks
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Service Unavailable (http://www.sportsdirectinternationalplc.com/SDMaintenance.html)
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Last seasons are a tenner in JJB without the logo if anyone is interested.
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Last seasons are a tenner in JJB without the logo if anyone is interested.
Which JJB?
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Last seasons are a tenner in JJB without the logo if anyone is interested.
Which JJB?
Any that have stock I'd assume. I saw them in the one in Corporation St in town.
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I ordered the new shirt yesterday from Macron Ireland via facebook and it arrived in the post today.
€57 inc. postage.
Beats the €74 it was costing me to order from the official site.
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Very surprised no one has posted this yet:
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/564133_445892142110674_139986873_n.jpg)
Both shirts are far better than ours, IMO.
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Anyone know where I can order a long sleeve online? They seemed to be 'Pre-Orders' everywhere.
Can't decide who I want on the back, thinking of going with Weimann..
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Very surprised no one has posted this yet:
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/564133_445892142110674_139986873_n.jpg)
Both shirts are far better than ours, IMO.
more camp than ours
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Very surprised no one has posted this yet:
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/564133_445892142110674_139986873_n.jpg)
Both shirts are far better than ours, IMVery surprised no one has posted this yet:
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/564133_445892142110674_139986873_n.jpg)
Both shirts are far better than ours, IMO.
They are not, IMO
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How can a shirt without a Villa badge be better than ours?
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I am not a massive fan of our shirts, but those West Ham ones are fucking terrible, and look more than a little bit League One.
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I am not a massive fan of our shirts, but those West Ham ones are fucking terrible, and look more than a little bit League One.
Much prefer the collar on West Ham's home shirt to the one on ours. Also still not over enamoured with the colour of the awy kit and feel that a more traditional yellow shirt would have been a better choice.
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This would be a 500 pager if our home kit looked liked West Ham's monstrosity.
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... and feel that a more traditional yellow shirt...
is it 'more tradiitional' to have yellow?
I know that we'd like to think that, but I thought the yellow away shirt was a product of the sixties rather than being a longstanding tradition. And we haven't had yellow for a while, have we?
I'd agree, I think the yellow away kit has style. The one that BFR had for the one-off FAC quarter-final (at Anfield?) was class, with the club logo washed into it.
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New home goalkeeper kit supposed to be in store last Monday! Went down 9-00am this morning still not in and no date when it will arrive. A very dissapointed son in our house and a not happy me either. Anoter kit fuckup as usual ....piss off!
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Unless we was to have white and blue with claret trims the away kit is not really going to resemble Villa too much. So if we move away from a traditional away kit colour the lime green is quite brave move, it's a modern 'in' colour.
It's not for everyone, but I love it.
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I'd love to see the Villa in a purple away strip.
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I like the West Ham away one. Navy as an away strip would be nice, the current England one reminds me our our change shirt for 95/96.
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I'd love to see the Villa in a purple away strip.
wouldnt that be too much like the claret home one thou .
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Unless we was to have white and blue with claret trims the away kit is not really going to resemble Villa too much. So if we move away from a traditional away kit colour the lime green is quite brave move, it's a modern 'in' colour.
It's not for everyone, but I love it.
Me too. The home kit should never be tampered with too much, but there should be some liberty with the away. I'll be getting one because it is so different. I'll tell a new away kit that is well smart, is the new Chelsea top. White with a diagonal blue stripe with the Adidas stripes in a two tone blue.
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Any idea what sports direct are knocking out the new adults shirts for, i see the club shop is £45?
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Any idea what sports direct are knocking out the mew adults shirts for?
Top Cat should be able to tell you
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I'd love to see the Villa in a purple away strip.
wouldnt that be too much like the claret home one thou .
Feck !! Richard Dunne would look like Barney the big purple dinosaur !!
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Saw our home shirt for sale in Luton Airport the other day, which surprised me. 12 months ago you couldn't have got hold of the latest Nike shirt in Aston, never mind Luton.
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Saw our home shirt for sale in Luton Airport the other day, which surprised me. 12 months ago you couldn't have got hold of the latest Nike shirt in Aston, never mind Luton.
I was down in Devon last week and saw it there which surprised me.
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New home goalkeeper kit supposed to be in store last Monday! Went down 9-00am this morning still not in and no date when it will arrive. A very dissapointed son in our house and a not happy me either. Anoter kit fuckup as usual ....piss off!
i too went to town yesterday to buy the goalie kit and had a dissappointed lad. I think the new home shirt is awful and my missus who works in the fashion industry says the material is cheap and hasnt been made very well. she says the training tops are made with cheaper material and there will be snags galore on them as soon as you put them on.
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they haven't got the new villa shirt in my local JJB(Gt Bridge) and it's not online on JJB or Sports Direct!!is it only available from the club outlets?
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they haven't got the new villa shirt in my local JJB(Gt Bridge) and it's not online on JJB or Sports Direct!!is it only available from the club outlets?
It's in the JJB in town.
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JJB and JD have it in Solihull for £50!
I asked in Sports Direct and was informed that they won't be stocking it.
Club shop is te cheapest option!!
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JJB and JD have it in Solihull for £50!
I asked in Sports Direct and was informed that they won't be stocking it.
Club shop is te cheapest option!!
Unusual as sports direct usually stock it at cheaper price, club shop it is then !
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Saw our home shirt for sale in Luton Airport the other day, which surprised me. 12 months ago you couldn't have got hold of the latest Nike shirt in Aston, never mind Luton.
Can you buy them at Birmingham Airport, I wonder? I often think the club is missing a trick by not having some sort of official presence at BHX.
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Saw our home shirt for sale in Luton Airport the other day, which surprised me. 12 months ago you couldn't have got hold of the latest Nike shirt in Aston, never mind Luton.
Can you buy them at Birmingham Airport, I wonder? I often think the club is missing a trick by not having some sort of official presence at BHX.
I think the rental at BHX is quite expensive as it is essentially a captive audience.
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Any idea what sports direct are knocking out the mew adults shirts for?
Top Cat should be able to tell you
Very good! (Got mine from the club shop).
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With the possible exception of the socks, I honestly think Macron have made a dogs breakfast of the kits and training gear
Worst range since the woeful days of Hummel
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Saw our home shirt for sale in Luton Airport the other day, which surprised me. 12 months ago you couldn't have got hold of the latest Nike shirt in Aston, never mind Luton.
Can you buy them at Birmingham Airport, I wonder? I often think the club is missing a trick by not having some sort of official presence at BHX.
Check my post earlier on the thread....
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With the possible exception of the socks, I honestly think Macron have made a dogs breakfast of the kits and training gear
Worst range since the woeful days of Hummel
Well that has saved you some money this season so you should be happy.
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Very true, instead I'll just get a claret n blue Hackett polo and some Villa Samba's and call it a day
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Isnt the Fred Perry polo better?
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I didn't know he was ill.
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When I bought the new shirt I was taking the price tag off and for some reason I peeled off the £45 sticker to reveal a £55 price underneath. Has anyone else noticed this?
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Isnt the Fred Perry polo better?
I always thought that until I found out it was designed for West Ham fans. Took the edge off http://www.fredperry.com/the-1957-fred-perry-shirt-12.html
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(http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/images/www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/large/th41288792558Gazelle%202%20-%20burgundy%20sky%20REAR.jpg)
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Nice...
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Are the new shirt sizes a tight fit or a baggy fit as sometimes xl feels too large and sometimes with another company it can feel a bit tight?
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The kits are not fitted, they are very baggy which is another blow
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The kits are not fitted, they are very baggy which is another blow
Cheers pal!
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(http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/images/www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/large/th41288792558Gazelle%202%20-%20burgundy%20sky%20REAR.jpg)
trying to find these are like rocking horse shit though!
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Isnt the Fred Perry polo better?
I always thought that until I found out it was designed for West Ham fans. Took the edge off http://www.fredperry.com/the-1957-fred-perry-shirt-12.html
this fred perry discussion needs to be in the 'that claret and blue polo' thread. but i know that fred perry have bought out a special edition glacier blue with claret tipping polo and a claret top with sky blue tipping polo also. These will cost you £70 and comes in nice box with tissue paper wrapping!
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Isnt the Fred Perry polo better?
I always thought that until I found out it was designed for West Ham fans. Took the edge off http://www.fredperry.com/the-1957-fred-perry-shirt-12.html
this fred perry discussion needs to be in the 'that claret and blue polo' thread. but i know that fred perry have bought out a special edition glacier blue with claret tipping polo and a claret top with sky blue tipping polo also. These will cost you £70 and comes in nice box with tissue paper wrapping!
Both very nice:
Glacier Blue with Claret tipping (http://www.fredperry.com/men/shirts/60-year-glacier-twin-tipped-shirt.html)
Claret with Blue tipping (http://www.fredperry.com/men/shirts/60-year-maroon-twin-tipped-shirt.html)
Probably go with the Claret and it doesnt have the association with West Ham.
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Nice...
No they are Adidas!
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Popped into JD earlier
Why is our kit £50 yet the manure kit is only £43 ??
These kits cost pennies to make
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£43 is very expensive for a tea-towel.
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Popped into JD earlier
Why is our kit £50 yet the manure kit is only £43 ??
These kits cost pennies to make
Why do they sell Manure tops in Birmingham full stop.
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Yeah that manure kit is shocking
Then again im not a fan of ours, the colours look a bit off
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Popped into JD earlier
Why is our kit £50 yet the manure kit is only £43 ??
These kits cost pennies to make
Why do they sell Manure tops in Birmingham full stop.
The Liverpool away kit was in fucking prime position as you walk in the door whereas our kit was hidden away upstairs
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this fred perry discussion needs to be in the 'that claret and blue polo' thread. but i know that fred perry have bought out a special edition glacier blue with claret tipping polo and a claret top with sky blue tipping polo also. These will cost you £70 and comes in nice box with tissue paper wrapping!
seventy notes?! I'm sure the one I had circa 1980 cost about £5 (mind you that did represent almost a fortnight's paper round money and seemed an almighty extravagance at the time)
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this fred perry discussion needs to be in the 'that claret and blue polo' thread. but i know that fred perry have bought out a special edition glacier blue with claret tipping polo and a claret top with sky blue tipping polo also. These will cost you £70 and comes in nice box with tissue paper wrapping!
seventy notes?! I'm sure the one I had circa 1980 cost about £5 (mind you that did represent almost a fortnight's paper round money and seemed an almighty extravagance at the time)
You should have been a footballer, then!
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Indeed!
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Popped into JD earlier
Why is our kit £50 yet the manure kit is only £43 ??
These kits cost pennies to make
I think its to encourage people to buy from the Villa shop rather than sports shops.
I also heard at the kit launch that the kits are not going to be sold in Sports Direct - this was from another guy in the queue though so could be incorrect.
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The kits are not fitted, they are very baggy which is another blow
Personally, I prefer them to be baggy. Though I guess it depends if you wear it more for actually playing football or for going to games etc.
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I think I might buy the lime green away kit, store it away and wear it down the pub when I'm about 60
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Nice...
No they are Adidas!
what is wrong with adidas? i only wear adidas?
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Nice...
No they are Adidas!
what is wrong with adidas? i only wear adidas?
Nike/Nice, a play on words i'm guessing.
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£50 in DW Sports as well
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Long Sleeve still isn't on the web, is it in the shop?
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Anyone spot the mistakes when you search for Aston Villa shirts on ebay?
Click here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=aston+villa+shirt&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1)
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Anyone spot the mistakes when you search for Aston Villa shirts on ebay?
Click here (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=aston+villa+shirt&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1)
No........ Go on. All I see is Villa shirts.
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Rather than just Villa shirts I see some Manure, Arsenal, PSV, Hertha Berlin etc shirts as well.
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Rather than just Villa shirts I see some Manure, Arsenal, PSV, Hertha Berlin etc shirts as well.
Your link only pulls up Villa , mate.
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This is what I see. Every 4th or 5th shirt is another club.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/ebay.jpg)
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Saw the shirt in New Street today. Not sure if this has been mentioned before but the blue on the shirt is lighter than on the socks, which is much closer to the blue I would recognise as the traditional Villa colour.
Looked odd to me.
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Saw the shirt in New Street today. Not sure if this has been mentioned before but the blue on the shirt is lighter than on the socks, which is much closer to the blue I would recognise as the traditional Villa colour.
Looked odd to me.
is it the different material and/or light that make it look that way?
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I don't really judge a kit until I see it on the players in a game. What I would say is my 9 year old lives in his so it's been washed about a dozen times already and it still looks new. It's a lot thicker fabric than the Nike stuff.
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I don't really judge a kit until I see it on the players in a game. What I would say is my 9 year old lives in his so it's been washed about a dozen times already and it still looks new. It's a lot thicker fabric than the Nike stuff.
It just feels nicer to touch, too. The Nike stuff always felt like you could actually just rip it apart.
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I don't really judge a kit until I see it on the players in a game. What I would say is my 9 year old lives in his so it's been washed about a dozen times already and it still looks new. It's a lot thicker fabric than the Nike stuff.
When we signed with Macron, I did a bit of googling on them, and ended up on a West Ham forum, and the general consensus there was that it was the best made gear they'd ever had.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but I'm pretty sure the sponsor was wonky on most of the home shirts I had a look at in the club shop on New Street...?
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So which club has the worst shirts in the Prem this season then? Everton usually have 'interesting' away/goalie kits.
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I don't really judge a kit until I see it on the players in a game. What I would say is my 9 year old lives in his so it's been washed about a dozen times already and it still looks new. It's a lot thicker fabric than the Nike stuff.
Would it be kinder to let him live in the house with you?
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So which club has the worst shirts in the Prem this season then? Everton usually have 'interesting' away/goalie kits.
the new Liverpool third kit looks horrific
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So which club has the worst shirts in the Prem this season then? Everton usually have 'interesting' away/goalie kits.
the new Liverpool third kit looks horrific
Yet they probably have the best home kit this season.
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So which club has the worst shirts in the Prem this season then? Everton usually have 'interesting' away/goalie kits.
the new Liverpool third kit looks horrific
Any pics?
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(http://www.footballkitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/New-Liverpool-Third-Kit-12-13.jpg)
The purpleness is not that obvious there.
By far the worst is the United tea-towel one IMO.
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yeh, the Man U kits are really, really bad
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(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01542/thirdkit_1542075a.jpg)
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Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but I'm pretty sure the sponsor was wonky on most of the home shirts I had a look at in the club shop on New Street...?
I thought that was Blackpools sponsor :-X
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I quite like that Liverpool kit, it's better than ours. Apart from the bits that look like shit tatoos on the sleeves.
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Agreed Risso.
Warrior aren't a big player when in comes to football kits, but that effort looks simple and uncluttered.
Unlike our mess of a strip, which seems to have 3/4 design ideas and executes each one poorly.
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Saw the shirt in New Street today. Not sure if this has been mentioned before but the blue on the shirt is lighter than on the socks, which is much closer to the blue I would recognise as the traditional Villa colour.
Looked odd to me.
I still havent seen the kit up close but my old man said exactly the same thing. They seemed to make a big deal about getting the colours right for the entire kit and under different conditions, so how they managed to mess this up and some of the other design elements they were looking to achieve is any ones guess.
The training kits and leisure wear also leave a lot to be desired, so I'll be getting a claret and blue Fred Perry polo shirt (http://www.fredperry.com/men/shirts/60-year-maroon-twin-tipped-shirt.html) instead...no questions over design, quality or longevity.
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Our kits are up there amongst the worst
Really disappointed with macron
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(http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/images/www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/large/th41288792558Gazelle%202%20-%20burgundy%20sky%20REAR.jpg)
trying to find these are like rocking horse shit though!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADIDAS-GAZELLE-SIZE-8-CLARET-BLUE-WEST-HAM-COLOURS-/120941736107?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item1c28b070ab (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADIDAS-GAZELLE-SIZE-8-CLARET-BLUE-WEST-HAM-COLOURS-/120941736107?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item1c28b070ab)
These are close, not even west ham as described IMO.
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Our kits are up there amongst the worst
Really disappointed with macron
no they're not
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All down to personal opinion I guess
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All down to personal opinion I guess
Yup.
I, personally, think these are the best kits we've had in years. Although I liked them, I was never impressed with the quality of the Nike stuff. Always felt like paper.
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My claret and blue gazelles got destroyed at Heaton Park on Sunday :(
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My claret and blue gazelles got destroyed at Heaton Park on Sunday :(
My white Adidas Kegler Supers were destroyed at Heaton Park on Saturday :-(
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Our kits are up there amongst the worst
Really disappointed with macron
You really don't seem to like the kits... Have you actually felt them/seen the quality of them? Best quality in a long time and also look as smart as any from the past few years.
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Agree the quality is better than Nike guess I'm disappointed with the designs and fitting. I expected some slick fitted Italian styling
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Saw a young lad at my sons football training last night wearing the new kit, first time i'd seen one 'in the flesh', thought it looked good apart from I thought the blue on the shirt is a little too light, should be darker
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Anyone seen this on the OS store? A Macron remake of the 1974 strip.
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116674
Looks pretty smart ... I like it. Perfect for those not wanting to fork out £45 for the home shirt!
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I saw someone wearing one today and thought it looked smart
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Anyone seen this on the OS store? A Macron remake of the 1974 strip.
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116674
Looks pretty smart ... I like it. Perfect for those not wanting to fork out £45 for the home shirt!
blimey. Breathe in.
Does look smart though
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I like the kits, but not the leisure wear.
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Anyone seen this on the OS store? A Macron remake of the 1974 strip.
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116674
Looks pretty smart ... I like it. Perfect for those not wanting to fork out £45 for the home shirt!
Been up the club shop today and they look better in the pics than in the flesh
They are not fitted as such and I don't really like the lettering down the sleeve
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Anyone seen this on the OS store? A Macron remake of the 1974 strip.
http://www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116674
Looks pretty smart ... I like it. Perfect for those not wanting to fork out £45 for the home shirt!
Been up the club shop today and they look better in the pics than in the flesh
They are not fitted as such and I don't really like the lettering down the sleeve
Let's not forget that you're not a fan of Macron anyway.
It's got a claret body and light blue sleeves. Sorted.
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As a positive, The away kit is growing on me, a little like a Radiohead album does
Might actually get it when it's out
They had a load in the club shop today and were putting the PL sleeve badges on, the girl doing it said they were for the players
Perhaps we will see this kit at Burton ??
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Unlikely, considering Burton wear yellow. I'm sure we'll be wearing it at Forest.
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Training gear looks absolutely awful. The away kit not bad though.
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Training gear looks absolutely awful.
The training gear does exactly what it says on the label...perfectly fine for football training or any sports activity but not what you'd want to wear down the pub or any other leisure activity. The leisure wear on the other hand really is absolutely awful.
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Training gear looks absolutely awful.
The training gear does exactly what it says on the label...perfectly fine for football training or any sports activity but not what you'd want to wear down the pub or any other leisure activity. The leisure wear on the other hand really is absolutely awful.
The training gear wouldn't look so bad if only it didn't have MACRON written on the back in an astonishingly massive font.
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Training gear looks absolutely awful.
The training gear does exactly what it says on the label...perfectly fine for football training or any sports activity but not what you'd want to wear down the pub or any other leisure activity. The leisure wear on the other hand really is absolutely awful.
The training gear wouldn't look so bad if only it didn't have MACRON written on the back in an astonishingly massive font.
Well training gear is made for the players to train in...nothing more, nothing less. If you consider that a lot of media photos are taken during training then it makes sense for a large Macron logo to be on the shirts as part of the commercial deal. They have been designed as functional training gear not as fashion shirts.
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Training gear looks absolutely awful.
The training gear does exactly what it says on the label...perfectly fine for football training or any sports activity but not what you'd want to wear down the pub or any other leisure activity. The leisure wear on the other hand really is absolutely awful.
The training gear wouldn't look so bad if only it didn't have MACRON written on the back in an astonishingly massive font.
Well training gear is made for the players to train in...nothing more, nothing less. If you consider that a lot of media photos are taken during training then it makes sense for a large Macron logo to be on the shirts as part of the commercial deal. They have been designed as functional training gear not as fashion shirts.
It's incredibly tacky though. Macron really are the pits.
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Yeah I agree to an extent. I like to wear sportswear for training and leisure (ie around the house or popping down the local shops), but I'd never wear any clothing with large logos plastered over them whether it be Macron, Nike or adidas. I wont be buying any of the Villa clothing range this season.
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That vintage replica kit is a thing of beauty. I want one! Need to do some sit ups first though!
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Agree the quality is better than Nike guess I'm disappointed with the designs and fitting. I expected some slick fitted Italian styling
I think the first nike kit, 32RED in 07/08, is up there with the 1995/96 kit as one of my all time favourites.
The new Macron kits are better than the last two nike kits, but overall, are pretty average.
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Tbh, whilst I don't like it, I'd rather have a very good villa side playing in a crap kit rather than a crap team in a nice kit (which we've had recently)
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Took delivery yesterday of the two new T shirts as I like something slightly more subtle at my age than the actual kit. The one in white and very dark blue/black is particularly nice but pleased with them both. They will both get a good airing in the south of France this coming summer!
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As a positive, The away kit is growing on me, a little like a Radiohead album does
Might actually get it when it's out
They had a load in the club shop today and were putting the PL sleeve badges on, the girl doing it said they were for the players
Perhaps we will see this kit at Burton ??
Seems we will be wearing the away kit at Burton.
Be seen in green as one of Lambert's Limes as away kit goes on sale.
Lambert's Lions to wear new lime strip at Burton.
There was a more enlightening story about it on the OS, but that's now the information.
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Well training gear is made for the players to train in...nothing more, nothing less. If you consider that a lot of media photos are taken during training then it makes sense for a large Macron logo to be on the shirts as part of the commercial deal. They have been designed as functional training gear not as fashion shirts.
That's not true these days, though, is it? That's why they flog the stuff to non players.
I genuinely don't have an opinion on it one way or the other in terms of taste - I've only seen pics of it in use on the OS, just saying that it hasn't been purely about for the players for a long time now.
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Cool, I'll pick up my away kit on the way to Burton!
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(http://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/images/www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/large/th41288792558Gazelle%202%20-%20burgundy%20sky%20REAR.jpg)
trying to find these are like rocking horse shit though!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADIDAS-GAZELLE-SIZE-8-CLARET-BLUE-WEST-HAM-COLOURS-/120941736107?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item1c28b070ab (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ADIDAS-GAZELLE-SIZE-8-CLARET-BLUE-WEST-HAM-COLOURS-/120941736107?pt=UK_Men_s_Shoes&hash=item1c28b070ab)
These are close, not even west ham as described IMO.
i have them ;)
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West ham colours? They can f right off.
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Don't suppose anyone knows any websites stocking some of the Nike stuff on the cheap?
Wouldn't mind getting a couple of the old shirts from the first three years of Nike, rarely buy replica shirts but they were great kits. Maybe with some names on the back; Laursen, Bouma, Barry, Milner, Young or Carew - will be decent in 15 years as a retro option!
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Love the new Ayr United .... kit
New Ayr United kit is very form fitting but bloody ace (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2171511/Topless-models-unveil-Ayr-United-kit.html)
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They're wearing fresh Ayr.
I'd make a ragged nonsense out of the one on the right.
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As they are probably from Scotland you could have them both for a deep fried mars bar
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Don't suppose anyone knows any websites stocking some of the Nike stuff on the cheap?
Wouldn't mind getting a couple of the old shirts from the first three years of Nike, rarely buy replica shirts but they were great kits. Maybe with some names on the back; Laursen, Bouma, Barry, Milner, Young or Carew - will be decent in 15 years as a retro option!
Sports Direct
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Love the new Ayr United .... kit
New Ayr United kit is very form fitting but bloody ace (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2171511/Topless-models-unveil-Ayr-United-kit.html)
I didn't realise The Situation lived in Swansea.
They are both 5/10's at best and I would only go there after 3 or 4 pints to be honest!
- Daniel, Swansea, 12/7/2012 01:02
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And bet they would need 3 or 4 pints of vodka to even look in Dave's direction
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1860 Munich come up trumps again. Cracking sponsor, & being a lapsed keeper I have a soft spot for Uhlsport.
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/1860-munich-201213-uhlsport-home-and-away-kits_16440
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Love the new Ayr United .... kit
New Ayr United kit is very form fitting but bloody ace (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2171511/Topless-models-unveil-Ayr-United-kit.html)
I support Ayr...Ayrrr. Ayyyyrrrrrrrrrrrr aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Nah, forget it.
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1860 Munich come up trumps again. Cracking sponsor, & being a lapsed keeper I have a soft spot for Uhlsport.
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/1860-munich-201213-uhlsport-home-and-away-kits_16440
why cant we be sponsored by Aston Martin
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ok, so not kit related, but spooky...
http://www.footybits.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=9&products_id=310 (http://www.footybits.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=9&products_id=310)
In 1958 Lamberts of Norwich produced a series of cigarette cards portraying a clubs colours and badge
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ok, so not kit related, but spooky...
http://www.footybits.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=9&products_id=310 (http://www.footybits.co.uk/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=9&products_id=310)
In 1958 Lamberts of Norwich produced a series of cigarette cards portraying a clubs colours and badge
some great stuff on there , some of the old team photos are fab may have to buy some
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I bought some fridge magnets a few years ago. They are good quality
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I've bought from there too - great, personal, friendly service and I love the pin badges they have.
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Just a quick note.
I would like to say a massive thank you to Fin Feds Dad,his wife and two kids for bringing my new home Villa kit over to Lanzarote for me. Met them last night for a couple of beers and a chin wag, put my new shirt on and it is the dogs bollocks.
Cheers Martin and Family.
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was just on my way to villa park to get an away kit for my eldest and an away goalie kit for my youngest. the home goalie kit is in but not the away.
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Got me n the little'n the new away kit today, already mentioned but Macron sizes different to Nike. I'm normally a small men's but now at the age of 27 I'm an extra large boy again! Saved £7 & have a sponsorless shirt too
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I'd just like to confirm that the new shirts look very smart and are good quality for those who are still wondering. How do I know? My wonderful girlfriend bought me one as an anniversary present.
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I still can't decide who I want on the back of my home longsleeve.. Weimann is my first choice at the moment.
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I still can't decide who I want on the back of my home longsleeve.. Weimann is my first choice at the moment.
How about villadelph on the back of your shirt? That is unless you have changed your name to Weimann ?
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I still can't decide who I want on the back of my home longsleeve.. Weimann is my first choice at the moment.
How about villadelph on the back of your shirt? That is unless you have changed your name to Weimann ?
eh, I don't really like the whole custom shirt thing.
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You will need a bloody big shirt if you are going to have our new Morrocan signing on it !!
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I still can't decide who I want on the back of my home longsleeve.. Weimann is my first choice at the moment.
How about villadelph on the back of your shirt? That is unless you have changed your name to Weimann ?
eh, I don't really like the whole custom shirt thing.
But you're thinking of customising your shirt?!
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Anyone know where you can buy the champions league arm decals ?
Can you just iron them on at home ?
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Anyone know where you can buy the champions league arm decals ?
Can you just iron them on at home ?
Please tell me you're not intending so iron them on to your Villa shirt?
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Anyone know where you can buy the champions league arm decals ?
Can you just iron them on at home ?
why would you need them on a Villa shirt?
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I'd have like to have seen a Villa shirt in the same style as Everton's this year.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7261/7555644688_160059f86d_b.jpg)
Might have worked in all claret with blue cuffs? I know it's slightly away from tradition but it'd be a way of changing things up.
Ah well, the Macron kits seem to look far, far better when they actually fit the players; and the training stuff looks ace.
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I like the claret t-shirt that they are wearing in the States
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I'd have like to have seen a Villa shirt in the same style as Everton's this year.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7261/7555644688_160059f86d_b.jpg)
Might have worked in all claret with blue cuffs? I know it's slightly away from tradition but it'd be a way of changing things up.
Ah well, the Macron kits seem to look far, far better when they actually fit the players; and the training stuff looks ace.
You're kidding me. The training gear is absolutely awful.
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So Nike have traded Villa for Everton? I hope Everton fans can put up with being treated like second class citizens when the novelty wears off.
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The training gear was one thing that Nike did well. I've not been impressed with what i've seen of the Macron stuff though.
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Everton's shirt looks crap imo. Those over-wide cuffs look like bandages.
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I saw a young lady (at my age they all look young) today wearing the new away shirt and I must say that it fitted her very well.
Oh, and the shirt looked okay I suppose.
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The Everton shirt looks naff.
They're the latest casualty in the cookie-cutter-shirt revolution.
Everton 12/13 (H) (http://www.footballshirtculture.com/12/13-kits/everton-2012-2013-nike-home-football-shirt.html)
Kaizer Chiefs 12/13 (A) (http://www.footballshirtculture.com/12/13-kits/kaizer-chiefs-2012-2013-nike-away-football-kit.html)
Athletic Madrid 12/13 (H & A) (http://www.footballshirtculture.com/12/13-kits/atletico-madrid-2012-2013-nike-home-and-away-football-shirt.html)
Hertha BSC 12/13 (H) (http://www.footballshirtculture.com/12/13-kits/hertha-bsc-2012-2013-nike-home-football-shirt.html)
It would seem that Nike's new philsophy is "let's use the same template for every club and stick a few stripes in there", which, after having Nike for the last 4 years, is just unacceptable.
I can almost certainly guarantee that if Villa still had Nike, ours would be claret body, blue sleeves, fat claret trim.
I am so happy we have Macron, I really am.
Also, apologies for posting links and not pictures - can't do it at work.
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Agreed - the Nike training gear was excellent as it could be worn for other activities as well (gym / Golf etc)
The actual kits they were real piss takers and i agree totally that they had a template and everyone was the same bar colours - horrible
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The home kit looked incredible at last nights game.
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Agreed - the Nike training gear was excellent as it could be worn for other activities as well (gym / Golf etc)
The actual kits they were real piss takers and i agree totally that they had a template and everyone was the same bar colours - horrible
The Nike kits were fantastic compared to the tat Macron have inflicted onto us. The last couple of Nike kits weren't the best but that was mainly down to those god awful cheques that Lerner insisted on.
The Macron training gear are an abomination.
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Agreed - the Nike training gear was excellent as it could be worn for other activities as well (gym / Golf etc)
The actual kits they were real piss takers and i agree totally that they had a template and everyone was the same bar colours - horrible
The Nike kits were fantastic
When they finally arrived in the shops well after the optimum selling period. TBH you have saved money so why post a moan about the Macron kit on every single post you have made on this thread before, during and after the kit has come out?
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Agreed - the Nike training gear was excellent as it could be worn for other activities as well (gym / Golf etc)
The actual kits they were real piss takers and i agree totally that they had a template and everyone was the same bar colours - horrible
The Nike kits were fantastic
When they finally arrived in the shops well after the optimum selling period. TBH you have saved money so why post a moan about the Macron kit on every single post you have made on this thread before, during and after the kit has come out?
Well this is the new kit thread. I'm not gonna post about my dislike of Macron anywhere else am I?
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Of course not, but as you instantly took a dislike to it from the moment the Macron deal was announced, we are very aware of your feelings on it by now. At least most people were willing to see what they came up with first before labelling them good or bad. It's the equivalent of someone jumping on new signings because they haven't heard of them.
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The first two Nike kits were very good. Since they introduced the checks, they were pretty crap, and worse than this year's (home) effort. That said, I'm not sure the checks were Nike's idea... I heard Randy liked them, for some reason.
Macron certainly deserve credit for getting the, perfectly-reasonable if unspectacular, for getting the kit out promptly... Nike couldn't be arsed.
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The home kit looked ace on telly/stream last night. Socks were particularly cool. No complaints from me so far. Seem to be selling a few as well.
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You found a stream and didn't tell us? Oh Andy (the Holte End say).
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The first two Nike kits were very good. Since they introduced the checks, they were pretty crap, and worse than this year's (home) effort. That said, I'm not sure the checks were Nike's idea... I heard Randy liked them, for some reason.
Macron certainly deserve credit for getting the, perfectly-reasonable if unspectacular, for getting the kit out promptly... Nike couldn't be arsed.
The one with the check panels down the side two years ago was one of the worst kits I've ever seen us play in - regardless of who made it.
Up close, I thought it looked even worse - I've seen better quality knock off gear in southern Europe.
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The first two Nike kits were very good. Since they introduced the checks, they were pretty crap, and worse than this year's (home) effort. That said, I'm not sure the checks were Nike's idea... I heard Randy liked them, for some reason.
Macron certainly deserve credit for getting the, perfectly-reasonable if unspectacular, for getting the kit out promptly... Nike couldn't be arsed.
The one with the check panels down the side two years ago was one of the worst kits I've ever seen us play in - regardless of who made it.
Up close, I thought it looked even worse - I've seen better quality knock off gear in southern Europe.
I realise that the new kits are made of paper thin stuff that is light, breathes etc etc etc, but it just feels flimsy. I suppose that's ok if you are a footballer because you'll likely wear a few of those during the season and they won't really wear down. The best kits are still those Acorns sponsored kits made by Nike. I have the round neck version, and a mate of mine has a more v neck style. Both are made from much sturdier quality material and are excellent designs.
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The first two Nike kits were very good. Since they introduced the checks, they were pretty crap, and worse than this year's (home) effort. That said, I'm not sure the checks were Nike's idea... I heard Randy liked them, for some reason.
Macron certainly deserve credit for getting the, perfectly-reasonable if unspectacular, for getting the kit out promptly... Nike couldn't be arsed.
The one with the check panels down the side two years ago was one of the worst kits I've ever seen us play in - regardless of who made it.
Up close, I thought it looked even worse - I've seen better quality knock off gear in southern Europe.
I realise that the new kits are made of paper thin stuff that is light, breathes etc etc etc, but it just feels flimsy. I suppose that's ok if you are a footballer because you'll likely wear a few of those during the season and they won't really wear down. The best kits are still those Acorns sponsored kits made by Nike. I have the round neck version, and a mate of mine has a more v neck style. Both are made from much sturdier quality material and are excellent designs.
True, but the one with the checks was made from very flimsy material. It looked cheap as chips.
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If you compare the Nike kits with the sober, classic, 1970 shirts, you see the they had not the proper shade of Villa claret.
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While I don't find the Macron kit to be anything special, it's certainly head and shoulders above what Nike have provided for other clubs this season.
The kits they've done for Man Utd, Arsenal, Barcelona, etc have all been bloody awful.
As others have said, I think Macron let themselves down with the training/leisure gear.
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The parents at my school have bought me the new Villa home shirt with my name and the number 33 on the back plus a Sports Direct gift voucher which was used this weekend to get the away shirt. I like both.
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The parents at my school have bought me the new Villa home shirt with my name and the number 33 on the back plus a Sports Direct gift voucher which was used this weekend to get the away shirt. I like both.
Christ that's generous of them, they must really like you. All my teachers ever got from parents were the odd box of chocolates.
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While I don't find the Macron kit to be anything special, it's certainly head and shoulders above what Nike have provided for other clubs this season.
The kits they've done for Man Utd, Arsenal, Barcelona, etc have all been bloody awful.
While I don't find the Macron kit to be anything special, it's certainly head and shoulders above what Nike have provided for other clubs this season.
The kits they've done for Man Utd, Arsenal, Barcelona, etc have all been bloody awful.
As others have said, I think Macron let themselves down with the training/leisure gear.
Absolutely spot on. The Nike gear was absolute gash.
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Just looking at the article on Chicago Villa (link in the pre-match thread) and in the photo he is wearing the new shirt standing next to a lady wearing one of the Nike tops. The Nike shirt has the claret and the blue spot on. Macron have got the claret verging on the old NTL shirt purple, and the blue is completely wrong, way too light, resulting in a kind of purple and lilac monstrosity. The design is okay but I dont understand why so many people like the kit when the colours are just obviously wrong. I's much rather have a nasty quality Nike shirt in Villa colours than a reasonably well styled cock up in West Ham mauve and insipid.
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My girlfriend is a teacher who has just left her job at a school in Wolverhampton, and I shit you not, one of her pupils insisted on bringing her a packet of bacon as his way of a gift!. He was only 5 mind. He said that he loves bacon so he thought that would be a good present.
Very nice bacon butties this morning.
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My girlfriend is a teacher who has just left her job at a school in Wolverhampton, and I shit you not, one of her pupils insisted on bringing her a packet of bacon as his way of a gift!. He was only 5 mind. He said that he loves bacon so he thought that would be a good present.
Very nice bacon butties this morning.
Bacon is possibly the most desirable gift I could ever receive.
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My girlfriend is a teacher who has just left her job at a school in Wolverhampton, and I shit you not, one of her pupils insisted on bringing her a packet of bacon as his way of a gift!. He was only 5 mind. He said that he loves bacon so he thought that would be a good present.
Very nice bacon butties this morning.
Bacon is possibly the most desirable gift I could ever receive.
More than a packet of Chipsticks ?
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My girlfriend is a teacher who has just left her job at a school in Wolverhampton, and I shit you not, one of her pupils insisted on bringing her a packet of bacon as his way of a gift!. He was only 5 mind. He said that he loves bacon so he thought that would be a good present.
Very nice bacon butties this morning.
Bacon is possibly the most desirable gift I could ever receive.
More than a packet of Chipsticks ?
The funny thing is, I don't even like Chipsticks.
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My girlfriend is a teacher who has just left her job at a school in Wolverhampton, and I shit you not, one of her pupils insisted on bringing her a packet of bacon as his way of a gift!. He was only 5 mind. He said that he loves bacon so he thought that would be a good present.
Very nice bacon butties this morning.
Bacon is possibly the most desirable gift I could ever receive.
A bit rash.
"I find the pastrami to be the most sensual of all the salted cured meats."
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My girlfriend is a teacher who has just left her job at a school in Wolverhampton, and I shit you not, one of her pupils insisted on bringing her a packet of bacon as his way of a gift!. He was only 5 mind. He said that he loves bacon so he thought that would be a good present.
Very nice bacon butties this morning.
That's ace. Kids are brilliant like that.
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I've seen the away kit on the telly, but hadn't seen it in the flesh at all until last night, when i saw a kid wearing one at the supermarket.
It's strange, you don't really realise just how bright it is till you actually see it.
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I've seen the away kit on the telly, but hadn't seen it in the flesh at all until last night, when i saw a kid wearing one at the supermarket.
It's strange, you don't really realise just how bright it is till you actually see it.
Wait until you turn the lights off.
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I was in the club shop earlier, I felt like I needed shades when looking at the wall of away shirts.
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Zoo magazine have voted our new home shirt the most stylish out of those in the Premier League.
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Zoo magazine have voted our new home shirt the most stylish out of those in the Premier League.
I knew Legion got that magazine delivered through his door.
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Zoo magazine have voted our new home shirt the most stylish out of those in the Premier League.
I just read it for the articles
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Looking at the facebook pictures in the Portland match thread it dawned on me that the new socks bare no resemblance to the colours of the shirt
The claret and especially the blue look unusually dull on the shirts compared to the socks
Or was this a bad image?
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Looking at the facebook pictures in the Portland match thread it dawned on me that the new socks bare no resemblance to the colours of the shirt
The claret and especially the blue look unusually dull on the shirts compared to the socks
Or was this a bad image?
I pointed this out about 30 pages ago. In the shop in Bham, the socks are a darker blue than the shirts which is quite a pale blue. The blue on the socks is much closer to the traditional.
It doesn't look very good.
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Saw it for the first time in the flesh on the weekend and and it instantly reminded me of the pink NTL Diadorra kit we had. Colours are all wrong. Surely they could at least get the colours right?
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My girlfriend is a teacher who has just left her job at a school in Wolverhampton, and I shit you not, one of her pupils insisted on bringing her a packet of bacon as his way of a gift!. He was only 5 mind. He said that he loves bacon so he thought that would be a good present.
Very nice bacon butties this morning.
That's ace. Kids are brilliant like that.
beats flowers
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Ok, first time I've seen the shirt today in the flesh so time for my official verdict...its a very nice shirt and well done to Macron.
Looks and feels much better up close than trying to get an opinion from online pics. The collar, cuffs and a few of the other features are very well designed. The material is very thin and light but feels quality so ideal for the players.
With regards to the colours, its quite obvious to me why the blue on the shirt is lighter than usual...and that is simply down to them matching the background colour of the badge to maintain consistency. Macron are designers as well as kit manufacturers, so if you want to blame someone for the wrong shade of blue, then blame Randy and whoever designed that shite effort of a badge design that is currently used to brand our club. Macron prob thought the same hence why the socks are a different colour, but for design and aesthetic purposes the blue on the shirt had to match the blue on the badge. Thats my take on it anyway.
The shirts are priced at £50 in JD Sports which is a bit expensive for a football shirt...are they cheaper anywhere else?
Overall verdict: very good shirt. I didnt have time to try it on, but considering buying this now instead of a Fred Perry if it fits well.
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Mr. Lerner, Sir designed the crest.
Shirts are £45 in Sports Direct.
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Mr. Lerner, Sir designed the crest.
Please forward any further complaints regarding the shade of blue on the shirt to Mr.Lerner, Sir.
Email: somewherein@merica.com
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My take on the kit, for what it's worth
I took the kids to the Villa Village last week to buy some tat for them and I thought the kits looked terrible. The away kit looks like a high visibility vest worn by security guards (the friendly fella behind the counter was laughing with me about how bad it looks) and the home kit looked like the sort of nasty nylon worn by none-league clubs. The Macron training clothes were worse.
I'm no Gok Wan or a subscriber to Zoo magazine but I reckon I can spot rubbish when I see it.
I ended up buying some non-Macron t shirts for the kids instead.
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My take on the kit, for what it's worth
I took the kids to the Villa Village last week to buy some tat for them and I thought the kits looked terrible. The away kit looks like a high visibility vest worn by security guards (the friendly fella behind the counter was laughing with me about how bad it looks) and the home kit looked like the sort of nasty nylon worn by none-league clubs. The Macron training clothes were worse.
I'm no Gok Wan or a subscriber to Zoo magazine but I reckon I can spot rubbish when I see it.
I ended up buying some non-Macron t shirts for the kids instead.
Funny you say that, I'm sure it just won most stylish award by some fashion guru in zoo magazine!
I actually really like it. I do however appreciate some h&vers would moan about the shade of blue in the sky if everything else was going well
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I've seen the away kit on the telly, but hadn't seen it in the flesh at all until last night, when i saw a kid wearing one at the supermarket.
It's strange, you don't really realise just how bright it is till you actually see it.
I would of prefered the kit to be more 'Waitrose Green' than 'ASDA Green'.
*winky bloke*
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The away kit is so poor it's actually grown on me and I think it will go on to be a classic cult hit
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Wow, that's good. They usually shrink don't they?
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I understand the argument that the shade of blue in the sleeves has to match the badge, but that's still no excuse for having a different shade on the socks!
I also agree about the away kit becoming a cult classic... I'm gonna buy one and keep it under my bed for 10 years and start wearing it when it becomes cool...
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Wow, that's good. They usually shrink don't they?
ba-dum-TSH
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The training gear of black and sky blue just look an exact carbon copy of the Nike training gear of the past few years.
Looking at the leisure wear in the City Centre store yesterday I can't say i'd wear any of it. Design wise it looks like the cheapo stuff that Villa sell themselves and no idea why the Macrown sew on logo is by the shoulder. Looks naff. Had high hopes but none of it so far is any good.
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In other Macron related news, i like the new Lazio:
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/s-s-lazio-macron-shirts-201213_16831
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I long for the days of Hummel (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/kits/133274/shit-football-kits-recreativo-de-huelva-fans-protest-over-horrendous-new-minnie-mouse-away-strip.html)
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In other Macron related news, i like the new Lazio:
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/s-s-lazio-macron-shirts-201213_16831
That away shirt is class.
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In other Macron related news, i like the new Lazio:
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/s-s-lazio-macron-shirts-201213_16831
That away shirt is class.
lovely and simple
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I long for the days of Hummel (http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/kits/133274/shit-football-kits-recreativo-de-huelva-fans-protest-over-horrendous-new-minnie-mouse-away-strip.html)
The home kit is shocking, the away kit is just hilarious.
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In other Macron related news, i like the new Lazio:
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/s-s-lazio-macron-shirts-201213_16831
Lazio is my Italian team and I have to say Macron made a fantastic effort both for Villa and the 1st team of the Capital.
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I run a record label in London and we were invited to enter a team to a Music Industry 5-aside tournament this weekend. Here's the kit I designed...
(http://i.imgur.com/wZh8a.jpg)
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(http://a10.idata.over-blog.com/604x525/3/88/03/34/maillot-2013/nuove-maglia-2013-macron-lazio.jpeg)
They can get it right.
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Those Lazio kits are class.
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I run a record label in London and we were invited to enter a team to a Music Industry 5-aside tournament this weekend. Here's the kit I designed...
(http://i.imgur.com/wZh8a.jpg)
You run R&S? I'm impressed.
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Nice kit as well. Can I have one?
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I'd take one too if there were spares for sale....
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I run a record label in London and we were invited to enter a team to a Music Industry 5-aside tournament this weekend. Here's the kit I designed...
(http://i.imgur.com/wZh8a.jpg)
You run R&S? I'm impressed.
When I worked in a record store many moons back we sold R&S records as imports. But then we could be quite dodgy. I got a whole host of Beltram, Dave Angel and Juan Atkins stuff at cost though, so I can't complain. I had my fun and that's all that matters.
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Nice umbro kit that
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I run a record label in London and we were invited to enter a team to a Music Industry 5-aside tournament this weekend. Here's the kit I designed...
(http://i.imgur.com/wZh8a.jpg)
I like that, can I have one? ;D
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Nah the badge is all wrong- it should be round, plus the sleeves are the incorrect shade of blue and doesn't match the socks even though I can't see them etc etc ad nauseam
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In other Macron related news, i like the new Lazio:
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/s-s-lazio-macron-shirts-201213_16831
Lazio is my Italian team and I have to say Macron made a fantastic effort both for Villa and the 1st team of the Capital.
Lazio is also my Italian team. Have to say, that are far better than the Villa kits in my opinion. Simple with no gimmicks.
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Lazio is a horrible fascist club with zero class.
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Oh. Lazio must be Italian for Everton.
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Lazio is a horrible fascist club with zero class.
Watch what you say. I got royally told off on here for saying that huge eagle on their home shirt, that looked like a Nazi emblem, looked like a Nazi emblem. Turns out Lazio and their fans are really a bunch of pussycats.
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Lazio is a horrible fascist club with zero class.
Pauliewalnuts, I have always taken you and your opinions in high esteem, and I didn't expect this from you.
I have been following Lazio home and away since 40 years, so maybe I know this club better than you, and I can assure to you that I am not fascist, nor I have ever known one among my mates.
Surely, there are a bunch of so said "ultras" that may be very noisy but that are not representetive of the Lazio fans that at 99% are very nice people.
These are some pics that I have made in the last Summer training camp, showing that Lazio is a very familiar club, plenty of women and kids.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img193/9631/immagine6wr.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img96/7567/immagine3py.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img525/8626/immagine2ic.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img641/7646/immagine3ni.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img256/7395/immagine5gc.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img109/7902/immagine8i.png)
The eagle of the crest (that actually exists and is named Olympia) has nothing to do with the nazi eagle. Lazio were set up in 1900, and fascism began in Italy only in 1922. The eagle is the old symbol of the Roman empire.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img99/4280/immagine6h.png)
You have fallen in false common place, like that according to which Italians are all mafiosi for instance.
In Italy there are many similar common places about England and the Englishmen (that they are all hooligans like those who killed 39 Juventus fans at the Heysel, for instance), but I never believed to them and this is the reason why I started to come to England when I was 11 year old, and I immediately fell in love with this beautiful Country.
I hope the same may happen to you, mate.
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Can't see the link. Let me guess - swastikas?
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Just looked it up: Lazio is Italian for Rangers.
Sorry Archie, went too far that time. Nobody's as bad as Rangers.
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Percy, are you sure to be a Villan? I hardly find trace of the typical Villa style in your words.
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Nice pictures Archie, though if the tractor is yours you should chop it in for a Bonneville.
I've no doubt most Lazio supporters are decent enough, but the club does have a reputation. Is it really undeserved?
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You have fallen in false common place, like that according to which Italians are all mafiosi for instance.
In Italy there are many similar common places about England and the Englishmen (that they are all hooligans like those who killed 39 Juventus fans at the Heysel, for instance), but I never believed to them and this is the reason why I started to come to England when I was 11 year old, and I immediately fell in love with this beautiful Country.
I hope the same may happen to you, mate.
No offence, Archie, but that's totally wide of the mark. I'm the biggest Italophile you'll find - I lived and worked over there for a fair while, and have plenty of Italian friends. I take most of my holidays in Italy as well.
I'm making no observation about a nation, I am not generalising xenophobically, far from it, I'm making an observation on lazio and the fact that they have a serious problem with the far right, and have done for a long time.
I'm talking about things like this:
(http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,27242,00.jpg)
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Nice pictures Archie, though if the tractor is yours you should chop it in for a Bonneville.
Of course is mine, I have painted it in Lazio (and 50% Villa) colours.
But it's not a tractor, is a Harley 883, no possible comparison wuth a Bonneville
Ah, Ian Taylor and Garry Thompson mounted on it.
I've no doubt most Lazio supporters are decent enough, but the club does have a reputation. Is it really undeserved?
Yes. Absolutely.
Because a small bunch of ultras don't represent the 99% of the true fans, like the hooligans in the 80's didn't represent the true English football fans.
And, the "funny" thing is that most of the ultras are not even fascists but they pretend to do this in order to hit the chairman with which they are in conflict. If they sing a fascist chant, infact, the club is fined, and so this becomes a weapon in his hands.
The atnmosphere at the Stadio Olimpio is vibrant but absolutely tranquil.
In a few words: there are some moroons among the Lazio fans, like there are among the Villans, I saw them especially in occasion of the derby with the Blue noses.
But this doesn't mean that Villa is a club of moroons. Viceversa, what deeply struck me is that a mod of this beautiful forum wrote that Lazio is a fascist club, that means: all at Lazio are fascists.
And he is a mod!
And I'm quite sure that he hasn't seen one Lazio game in his life, nor went to the stadium.
And still he can pontificate with what seems to be a racist slogan.
How this can happen it's beyond me.
No need to say that I'm sad and gutted.
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Crikey, Archie, don't you think you're overreacting a little?
I'm not saying all Lazio fans are fascists, I'm saying that Lazio has a serious problem with fascism. I'm also not sure that just pretending to be fascists to annoy the chairman is much of a defence.
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I've been to a Lazio game. I heard monkey chants aimed at a black player (Lilian Thuram) and it sounded like more than 1% of the supporters doing it. I'm not saying they're all fascists and it was a few years ago, but it seemed more than a small minority.
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You have fallen in false common place, like that according to which Italians are all mafiosi for instance.
In Italy there are many similar common places about England and the Englishmen (that they are all hooligans like those who killed 39 Juventus fans at the Heysel, for instance), but I never believed to them and this is the reason why I started to come to England when I was 11 year old, and I immediately fell in love with this beautiful Country.
I hope the same may happen to you, mate.
No offence, Archie, but that's totally wide of the mark. I'm the biggest Italophile you'll find - I lived and worked over there for a fair while, and have plenty of Italian friends. I take most of my holidays in Italy as well.
I'm making no observation about a nation, I am not generalising xenophobically, far from it, I'm making an observation on lazio and the fact that they have a serious problem with the far right, and have done for a long time.
I'm talking about things like this:
(http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,27242,00.jpg)
Obviously I condemn this.
But you should add that it doesn't represent the normality.
It appeared only once, and many years ago.
Olimpico stadium has an attendance of 80.000, and you can't take a small part for the entire writing: Lazio is a racist club. This is simply not true.
If you had written: Lazio Ultras (or, most properly: most of Lazio Ultras) are fascists I would have nothing to object.
Anyhow, that horrible banner wad exposed in a derby, and in that occasion there is a huge hatre between that two sets of fans.
Believe me, Villa City is nothing compared to Lazio Roma.
And still, in the derby with the blue noses I have heard with my ears horrible slogans against our opponents.
But I am strongly convinced that some moroons can't represent that club that they pretend to support.
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Archie, I am not saying all Lazio fans are fascists, so I apologise if you got that opinion, but the problem is, things like that banner and racism amongst fans, happen at Lazio games more than pretty much any other Western European club you could mention.
What about this one,last season, for example:
(http://u.goal.com/150000/150002_news.jpg)
What would be the reaction if an English club had a banner like that?
As I said, I apologise if you thought I meant they're all fascists, of course I don't, but to argue that Lazio are no worse than other clubs when it comes to racism is just not true.
Yes, the Villa - Blues derby brings out some horrible behaviour, but it never brings out racism.
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Percy, are you sure to be a Villan? I hardly find trace of the typical Villa style in your words.
I've never been so insulted in all my life Archie, you cheeky moroon.
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Crikey, Archie, don't you think you're overreacting a little?
I'm not saying all Lazio fans are fascists, I'm saying that Lazio
has a serious problem with fascism. I'm also not sure that just pretending to be fascists to annoy the chairman is much of a defence.
If you had written this I would have had no objection.
But you have written: Lazio is a racist club.
Isn't this a racist sentence?
It's like if you had said that I'm racist too. And you are a mod, this is the reason why maybe I have overreacted, because I felt involved in this.
Anyhow, I'm not angry with you, I accept your explanations, and I am glad invite you to a Lazio game in order to prove that I'm right when I say that the problem concerns only a small although noisy minority!
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Crikey, Archie, don't you think you're overreacting a little?
I'm not saying all Lazio fans are fascists, I'm saying that Lazio
has a serious problem with fascism. I'm also not sure that just pretending to be fascists to annoy the chairman is much of a defence.
If you had written this I would have had no objection.
But you have written: Lazio is a racist club.
Isn't this a racist sentence?
It's like if you had said that I'm racist too. And you are a mod, this is the reason why maybe I have overreacted, because I felt involved in this.
Anyhow, I'm not angry with you, I accept your explanations, and I am glad invite you to a Lazio game in order to prove that I'm right when I say that the problem concerns only a small although noisy minority!
I've seen Lazio play, just not in Rome ;-)
As I said, I believe Lazio have an engrained problem with racism that goes back years. I love Italy and I love football, I just don't like racism and fascism, and there seems to be more of it at Lazio games than those of other teams.
For what its worth, I dont believe "Lazio is a racist club" is a racist sentence, no, because I'm judging a football club and its actions, rather than a race or people. I don't know why you find that racist. It's like you saying "Stoke City are a squalid club" - I'd agree with you entirely, but I'd never think you were being racist in saying it. Making generalisations, maybe, but not racist.
Incidentally, I've seen lots of racism too at the Italian club I support, but mainly against other Italians, so Lazio are far from the only club with a problem, that much I will admit. It just strikes me they have the bigger, more engrained problem.
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My partner is Roman and a big Roma fan....thus making me a Roma fan and her a Villa fan...during our 3 year tenure. She is an educated woman (obviously!!) but the consensus is that Lazio fans (from the County) are more narrow minded than your standard Roman whom is exposed to tourists etc.
I suppose where I am going with this is that I am comparing your "standard" Lazio fan with Joe Bloggs from Solihull.
This is all relative of course so in a nutshell Up the Villa, and I regularly fly the claret and blue flag in rome!!
UTV
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Archie, I am not saying all Lazio fans are fascists, so I apologise if you got that opinion, but the problem is, things like that banner and racism amongst fans, happen at Lazio games more than pretty much any other Western European club you could mention.
What about this one,last season, for example:
(http://u.goal.com/150000/150002_news.jpg)
What would be the reaction if an English club had a banner like that?
As I said, I apologise if you thought I meant they're all fascists, of course I don't, but to argue that Lazio are no worse than other clubs when it comes to racism is just not true.
Yes, the Villa - Blues derby brings out some horrible behaviour, but it never brings out racism.
I have just clarified that these horrible banners are used to hit the president with fines.
I am not completely stupid, I would have noticed if there were problems of racism in the club that I follow since 40 years!
Lazio as a club is and will always been against racism, and in order to contrast their own "Ultras" (even the Roma ultras are right-oriented) Lazio and Roma organise a lot of events against racism.
These things represent the spirit of a club, and should count much more than a stupid banner or chant.
http://www.asromalive.it/2012/03/roma-lazio-la-partita-contro-il-razzismo/
http://www.romaforever.it/news/leggi.php?idNews=21404
http://www.romaebraica.it/contro-il-razzismo-e-l%E2%80%99antisemitismo-la-roma-e-la-lazio-scendono-in-campo-unite/
http://www.regione.lazio.it/forum_giovani/news_dettaglio.php?vms=&vmf=&id=1611&tblId=NEWS
And a last thing.
Lazio President Lotito has always been against the Lazio ultras, this is the reason why you can't say that Lazio is a racist club.
You can say that many Lazio Ultras are fascist, this could be true, not the club in itself.
Lotito and the Ultras are one against the others even in the Court. . .
http://roma.repubblica.it/dettaglio/il-presidente-laziale-lotito-cosi-ho-rotto-con-gli-ultras/1510350
Lotito's son go to school with the body guard and that proves that the club has nothing to do with the Ultras.
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I have just clarified that these horrible banners are used to hit the president with fines.
I am not completely stupid, I would have noticed if there were problems of racism in the club that I follow since 40 years!
Maybe it is a difference in interpretation, but do you think doing it to hit the president with fines is an acceptable reason to make racist chants? I don't.
It is still racist chanting. If fans were truly anti-racist, they wouldn't wave banners like that in any circumstance - let alone one about Auschwitz and ovens.
The first banner i posted was 1998, the second was in 2011 - that's a long time to be indulging in racism to get at a club owner.
Once again, I entirely take your point about the club trying to do something, but I can't accept they don't have a problem with racism, or your explanation of it being to get at the president.
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If one cha
I have just clarified that these horrible banners are used to hit the president with fines.
I am not completely stupid, I would have noticed if there were problems of racism in the club that I follow since 40 years!
Maybe it is a difference in interpretation, but do you think doing it to hit the president with fines is an acceptable reason to make racist chants? I don't.
It is still racist chanting.
I think that if one doesn't share the racial theories and songs only to hit the president he is a stupid but not a racist.
Anyhow, even if we assume that the majority of Lazio ultras are fascists, all the other fans and - above all - the Lazio President is and has always been against them, so you can't say that the club in itself is racist: http://roma.repubblica.it/dettaglio/il-presidente-laziale-lotito-cosi-ho-rotto-con-gli-ultras/1510350
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I have just clarified that these horrible banners are used to hit the president with fines.
I am not completely stupid, I would have noticed if there were problems of racism in the club that I follow since 40 years!
Maybe it is a difference in interpretation, but do you think doing it to hit the president with fines is an acceptable reason to make racist chants?
Is it fuck. I would never pretend to be a racist just to upset someone, no matter how much I hated them. I believe any non-racist would say the same. Sorry, that excuse doesn't wash.
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If one chaI have just clarified that these horrible banners are used to hit the president with fines.
I am not completely stupid, I would have noticed if there were problems of racism in the club that I follow since 40 years!
Maybe it is a difference in interpretation, but do you think doing it to hit the president with fines is an acceptable reason to make racist chants? I don't.
It is still racist chanting.
I think that if one doesn't share the racial theories and songs only to hit the president he is a stupid but not a racist.
Anyhow, even if we assume that the majority of Lazio ultras are fascists, all the other fans and - above all - the Lazio President is and has always been against them, so you can't say that the club in itself is racist: http://roma.repubblica.it/dettaglio/il-presidente-laziale-lotito-cosi-ho-rotto-con-gli-ultras/1510350
I already said I accept the club is trying to do something about it, i just can not accept that the problem doesn't exist or the explanation that it's stupid but not racist to wave banners about Auschwitz. That is no defence at all.
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I have just clarified that these horrible banners are used to hit the president with fines.
I am not completely stupid, I would have noticed if there were problems of racism in the club that I follow since 40 years!
Maybe it is a difference in interpretation, but do you think doing it to hit the president with fines is an acceptable reason to make racist chants?
Is it fuck. I would never pretend to be a racist just to upset someone, no matter how much I hated them. I believe any non-racist would say the same. Sorry, that excuse doesn't wash.
Exactly.
It's like me hating the black guy next door so shouting abuse at him, calling him a "stupid fucking nigger" (and that banner is on that level of offensiveness), then saying "it's not racist, because I don't adhere to racial theory, i was just saying it to get at him".
It is entirely racist.
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I have just clarified that these horrible banners are used to hit the president with fines.
I am not completely stupid, I would have noticed if there were problems of racism in the club that I follow since 40 years!
Maybe it is a difference in interpretation, but do you think doing it to hit the president with fines is an acceptable reason to make racist chants?
Is it fuck. I would never pretend to be a racist just to upset someone, no matter how much I hated them. I believe any non-racist would say the same. Sorry, that excuse doesn't wash.
Exactly.
It's like me hating the black guy next door so shouting abuse at him, calling him a "stupid fucking nigger" (and that banner is on that level of offensiveness), then saying "it's not racist, because I don't adhere to racial theory, i was just saying it to get at him".
It is entirely racist.
actually if i really hated someone i would use any abuse that would upset them, i can only imagine this as i dont really hate anyone!
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I know and I admit that my English is poor, but I hoped to have at least clarified that:
1 - I absolutely don't justify these banners;
2 - only a minority of Lazio fans are involved in racist chants and banners, and they all belong to the so said Ultras;
3 - the club in itself, its officials, and the wide majority of fans has nothing to do with (and are 100% against) racism.
If after two pages off topic there is not a consensus about this, I definitely give up.
Think what you want.
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But it's not a tractor, is a Harley 883, no possible comparison wuth a Bonneville
I think we agree, although probably not for the same reasons! But why do you think they cannot be compared? Both relatively slow twins, upright riding position, no fairing and similar price. Here's an (American) site comparing the two and a Honda.
www.cycleworld.com/tag/bonneville/
As to the rest of it, others have expressed it better than I could, but although the ultras may be a minority they dominate an outsider's view of the club. You can't get upset that this view is such a dim one.
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Right, just back from Nuremburg wearing my Lazio shirt, on the way had a photo taken at Auschwitz..... Oh hang on my fondness for Lazio grew from watching Gazza and Pepe Signori on C4 in the 90s, not the fact that Mussolini was seen as a hero for the Irriducible.
Football in Italy is very political which is unfortunate but as with hooliganism in England not all fans should be tarnished with the same brush.
Nice kits though!
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Forza Hellas Verona. That is all.
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Only on here could we start off wondering what the collar would look like and end up debating the rights and wrongs of the pre/post-war Nazi movement. Fantastic.
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Only on here could we start off wondering what the collar would look like and end up debating the rights and wrongs of the pre/post-war Nazi movement. Fantastic.
So, you reckon there are "rights" about the Nazi movement? Nice to meet you, mein fuhrer!
obviously, i am joking
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Perhaps the ultras were just being ironically racist, like John Terry.
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Anyway, I like the lack of collar on the away kit.
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Only on here could we start off wondering what the collar would look like and end up debating the rights and wrongs of the pre/post-war Nazi movement. Fantastic.
So, you reckon there are "rights" about the Nazi movement? Nice to meet you, mein fuhrer!
obviously, i am joking
excellent..
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I see the new kit is now on sale in Sports Soccer in Merry Hill. Good old Mike Ashley got it in the end.
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Racism & Lazio aside...
Got my new shirt on Tuesday (after purchasing it I was told it would be a birthday present so had to wait over a month - bastards!) and I've pretty much worn it since (apart from at work).
I must say, I think it is fan-tiddly-tastic. The quality is fabulous, it looks smart (even my WBA-supporting fiancee likes it) and it's comfortable to wear (albeit a bit long).
In regards to the colour of the sleeves - there is a great different between last seasons and this seasons shade. It is much more 'sky' blue this time around.
I will take a photo later to keep the debate going.
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I think this is rather lovely:
www.astonvilladirect.com/stores/astonvilla/products/product_details.aspx?pid=116674
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Subjective innit.
Looks pretty horrible to me.
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Subjective innit.
Of course
Philistine
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A word of warning to anyone thinking of getting the new home or away shirt in the near future.
Yesterday I had to take back my home shirt to the Villa store for a refund, the second time I have had to take the shirt back. The first time I exchanged it as the Genting logo was slanted. I asked for a refund due to the Macron logos on the shoulders peeling off after 3 washes. Not good enough Villa. I have never had to take a Villa shirt back because of poor quality. Not worth £45.
The staff in the Villa store totally agreed with me, even saying thier training gear 'uniform' had similar issues with macron logos peeling off.
Also caught wind of one member of staff saying to supervisor, "all we have had is refunds today" to which the supervisor said, "Im not surprised."
So if your thinking of getting either new shirt, just keep in mind it probably wont last the season.
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I took my lads down at the weekend to get some tickets for tonight.
Although there is a wide choice of Macron products, they are for me pretty naff and poor quality. Say what you like about the Nike kits and their late delivery but the training gear was top notch.
Having Macron pretty much refelcts where we currently stand in the greater scheme of things...
Look at Swansea's kits this year, unique to them and very classy as opposed to the striped template that WBA/Stoke/Sunderland have.
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A word of warning to anyone thinking of getting the new home or away shirt in the near future.
Yesterday I had to take back my home shirt to the Villa store for a refund, the second time I have had to take the shirt back. The first time I exchanged it as the Genting logo was slanted. I asked for a refund due to the Macron logos on the shoulders peeling off after 3 washes. Not good enough Villa. I have never had to take a Villa shirt back because of poor quality. Not worth £45.
The staff in the Villa store totally agreed with me, even saying thier training gear 'uniform' had similar issues with macron logos peeling off.
Also caught wind of one member of staff saying to supervisor, "all we have had is refunds today" to which the supervisor said, "Im not surprised."
So if your thinking of getting either new shirt, just keep in mind it probably wont last the season.
I sat behind a guy on the Holte on Saturday who had the new shirt. The macron logos had almost completely come off. Must have washed it a few times.
It is a dreadful kit, made worse by the fact the socks are a darker blue than the shirt.
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I read a tweet from a fan on the weekend complaining about the kit and that she had had to exchange it again due to the logo's coming off. Very poor from Macon. Looks like i wont be getting one until they have sorted this out.
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I just checked mine and after 3-4 washes the Macron logos are starting to lift.
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I wonder what the sales are like at the moment. The only Villa kit I'd ever buy is the training stuff but the Macron gear is absolute trash. It's almost like Lerner is kitting us up for the Championship.
I hope we haven't signed a long contract with them.
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Another who has taken kit back due to Macron logos coming off .
Quote from member of staff to me .. "its to be expected with a new supplier"
Not good enough , its the last time ill be purchasing club merchandise was my reply
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Another who has taken kit back due to Macron logos coming off .
Quote from member of staff to me .. "its to be expected with a new supplier"
That's no excuse.
It's not as if they've never made football kits before.
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Another who has taken kit back due to Macron logos coming off .
Quote from member of staff to me .. "its to be expected with a new supplier"
That's no excuse.
It's not as if they've never made football kits before.
To be fair he did exchange it & advised on how to wash it in future .
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Another who has taken kit back due to Macron logos coming off .
Quote from member of staff to me .. "its to be expected with a new supplier"
That's no excuse.
It's not as if they've never made football kits before.
To be fair he did exchange it & advised on how to wash it in future .
And what was his advise? 30 deg wash with now spin? Use fairy non bio as opposed to Daz? lol
The fact remains that the quality is obviously not the best. I have a few older tops and training tops and none of the logos are coming off and i have washed them like over 100 times
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Strange, as when we signed with Macron, someone posted a link to that West Ham forum where they were all saying the kit are the best quality they've ever had.
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Wasn't the argument that -okay Macron might not be big players- but they'd give us more individual treatment than Nike?
That Nike only used templates with us, and Macron would push the boat out. Seeing as we're (supposedly) the biggest club they have on the books et.c
That Braga kit from the other night looked vaguely familiar.
Pretty sure I've seen West Ham players and Fat Sam interviewed in identical training gear too.
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Have to say that having seen the kits in action now, they really do look very cheap and nasty.
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I'm pleased that we have a proper collar on our home shirt as opposed to the west ham style collar which looks crap.
The training gear so far doesn't look up to much at all.