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Title: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 22, 2011, 10:00:56 PM: 0-1 away win.

Agbonlahor 85
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 22, 2011, 10:04:22 PM: 1-1

Sinclair 44
Gabby 66
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on November 22, 2011, 10:17:22 PM: I do think we'll win this one 0-2 Bent brace
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 22, 2011, 10:19:35 PM: Can't see a win coming off the back of the last pitiful performance. 1-0 to Swansea. Please prove me wrong, Villa.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on November 22, 2011, 10:26:57 PM: 1-1 Sinclair (90+3), Gabby (24)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on November 22, 2011, 10:34:44 PM: 1-0 and AM to fall on his sword...
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on November 22, 2011, 10:36:46 PM: We are only a couple of points above them, and organised by a manager who thinks Heskey is a viable midfielder..
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on November 22, 2011, 10:42:13 PM: 2-0 Swansea.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on November 22, 2011, 10:47:02 PM: 2-2. Sinclair 75, Dobbie 86. Agbonlahor 3, Warnock 24. Bent miss pen 69.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on November 22, 2011, 10:58:35 PM: It pains me to say this but I hope Swansea show Mcleish how to play against a supposedly better team, I bet they wont have a striker and a defender in midfield.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on November 22, 2011, 11:18:56 PM: We'll hammer them; I'm going for 3-0 to the Villa with the goals coming from Bent, Gabby and Jenas.

This will be followed by the shortest ever Heroes and Villains Post Match Thread with the McLeish out brigade forced into hiding until our next defeat... ;0)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Compass on November 22, 2011, 11:20:31 PM: 2-0

Collins, Hutton, Warnock and Heskey who don't deserve to start will automatically be picked for no logical reason and we'll see Swansea dominating the match. We won't create enough chances, again.

Collins and Hutton will gift Sinclair space allowing him to score a brace.

The majority of the fanbase will soon start to panic about relegation being a real possiblity and AMC will give his post match interview about how the team defended bad and something will be done like he keeps bullshitting about. Cue all the pitchforks sharpening.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Montys Bro on November 22, 2011, 11:21:43 PM: I think swansea will beat us or draw 0-0. Only United have scored there and that was a real one-off goal. A team with heskey as the creative puppet-master can usually muster upwards of 1 chances per game, and here it will be difficult to manage that. Our attacks are like trying to unlock a safe by throwing a hammer at it from 50 yards away, but doing it 60 times in a row because you think it's a great idea

< 2 shots on target as well as less possession, but that goes without saying at this point
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on November 22, 2011, 11:22:25 PM: 2-1 to swansea. really think they'll be up for this more than us and a lot of our lot won't fancy it sadly.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on November 22, 2011, 11:55:19 PM: This was one of my nailed on away trips this season, but after our other away displays I've decided I've got better things to do with a whole day and best part of £100 (mostly price of petrol) than go and watch the type of dross McLeish is dishing out.

A tougher game than anticipated at the start of the season. They play good, pacy, open football, have only lost once (Manure) and conceded 2 goals on their patch all season. 2-0 to them
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on November 23, 2011, 12:06:56 AM: It can't be any worse than last night. 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on November 23, 2011, 12:18:22 AM: 1-0 to Swansea. Danny Graham getting the winner.

Swansea are pretty decent at the back from what I understand though they tend not to be the most potent goal scoring threat. With our defence they won't need to be potent though.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on November 23, 2011, 01:07:37 AM: Lively 2-2 draw, we'll be pegged back twice after Agbonlahor had put us in front on two occasions.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on November 23, 2011, 03:07:07 AM: No doubt the Swansea tactic will be pepper our goal with crosses, corners and free kicks, and you'll bound to be gifted at least one goal.

Could be another 3-2 like the Norwich game, but not sure who will be the victor.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 23, 2011, 07:18:22 AM: High scoring draw.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 23, 2011, 08:24:17 AM: We're not going to keep a clean sheet, that's pretty much obvious.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on November 23, 2011, 09:35:28 AM: 2-0 to Swansea please let me be wrong but after monday I cant see it.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 23, 2011, 09:48:10 AM: Draw or lose. Cannot see us winning unless AM picks a better team.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on November 23, 2011, 10:01:40 AM: 2-0 defeat.
Swansea will want it more.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jonzy85 on November 23, 2011, 10:04:14 AM: If he goes with the team he put out against Spurs, I think Swansea could embarrass us. Maybe only 1-0 or 2-0, because of their lack of goal threat, but I dont think we will see the ball.

But, if......Heskey and Hutton are dropped, bring in Bannan and N'Zogbia, play the 3 lads in the middle, Bent spearheading the attack, Gabby and N'Zogbia either side, perhaps bring in Delph for Herd, drop Collins for Cuellar (put Hutton RB)/Clark (is he fit), I think we could beat them.

But I think option 1 is momre likely, so I've gone for Swansea win.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on November 23, 2011, 10:29:14 AM: We will lose this game, unless serious action is taken with regards to team selection.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 23, 2011, 10:43:05 AM: 0-0 or 1-0 to either side. We will almost doubtless concede loads of possession, and they will either eventually score one due to a defensive error or we will score one on the break thanks to Gabby doing something brilliant.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 23, 2011, 10:47:01 AM: 2-0 Swansea, they only lost once at home they will be up for it, we will go with plan A) Don't concede, there will be NO plan B
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 23, 2011, 10:55:00 AM: 2 all.

N'zogbia and jenas with out goals.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 23, 2011, 11:19:50 AM: 2-1 swansea win
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 23, 2011, 11:20:51 AM: I think we will get what a few fans have been after . Clark to start , so 7 defenders in the team ;)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on November 23, 2011, 11:35:07 AM: Park the bus, hope for a 0-0 or snatch an all important away goal to take back to Villa Park.

It's an opportunity to banish the memories of our last venture into europe
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on November 23, 2011, 11:42:06 AM: We couldn't park a bus if we tried.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on November 23, 2011, 11:57:16 AM: Swansea play passing football. Most of Villa's squad seems to be midfielders who cannot retain nor pass the ball. Chaotic high scoring draw. Given, Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, NZogbia, Herd, Petrov, Jenas, Agbonlahor, Bent.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 23, 2011, 12:04:53 PM: 1-0
Late Bent Winner
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 23, 2011, 12:05:49 PM: Jenas and Nzogbia will definitely come in. Should be an entertaining game. Watched Swansea against Wolves and they destroyed the Wolves full backs. Hutton and Warnock will be well up against it.

A braver manager would also consider giving Petrov a rest. What is the point having the likes of Bannan, Ireland, Delph, Albrighton, Gardner at the club if we cant play them against the likes of Swansea?

Unfortunately its clear McLeish doesnt trust creative players. We will try and outmuscle Swansea and rely on Gabby bursting pass 2 or 3 defenders to make a goal.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 23, 2011, 12:30:24 PM: I don't know where I've got this burst of optimism from but I reckon AM will make some positive team changes, we will actually manage to go ninety minutes without giving away a goal and Gabby or Bent will stick one in for us. I'm going one nil to Villa.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on November 23, 2011, 01:42:37 PM: Please God let us scrape three points somehow.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 23, 2011, 01:49:31 PM: I'm expecting that elusive away win to come at Bolton tbh.

If we don't win there, then I can't see us winning away until 2012 as after that it's away to Stoke and Chelsea, can only see a draw at Stoke in that.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on November 23, 2011, 01:52:29 PM: Quote from: Irish villain on November 23, 2011, 01:42:37 PM
Please God let us scrape three points somehow.

Please God let's pray that he doesn't pick Hutton and Heskey in midfield.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mark H on November 23, 2011, 02:30:17 PM: I have gone for a home win - I am really struggling to be positive at the moment and think we are there for the taking by anybody we play
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 23, 2011, 02:52:09 PM: Quote from: mrfuse on November 22, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
It pains me to say this but I hope Swansea show Mcleish how to play against a supposedly better team,

So you hope Villa lose?
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 23, 2011, 02:53:31 PM: 4-2 Villa.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on November 23, 2011, 02:59:46 PM: A hard-fought last-minute dicking .2-1
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 23, 2011, 03:38:01 PM: As i said in another thread

Option A
He think the team from Monday owe the fans a response so they can put it right

Option B

He has the bottle to drop a good few wasters from the team (Heskey / Collins / Hutton) and actually go for it

I would like B but fear it will be same old same old option A

2-0 loss
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on November 23, 2011, 03:53:09 PM: I think we are in for a shock, I think the worm has turned and Villa boards will be going into meltdown come Sunday night.

Seriously seriously hope to be proved wrong, not just for AM sake but the fact that we so need these points looking at how everybody else just below us are starting to cue up.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on November 23, 2011, 07:30:59 PM: another defeat i think 2-1 Swansea
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hulkamania on November 23, 2011, 07:58:26 PM: Another loss. Same old dross. Scoreline doesn't matter as a loss is a loss
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 23, 2011, 09:22:33 PM: Back to drawing ways. 1-1
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on November 24, 2011, 01:49:55 AM: If we win, then I'll be happily surprised to get a result against an average team with better team spirit than ours.
If we draw, then it would be the result I expected and a poor reflection on the team and management.
If we lose, then I'll be apathetic in defeat as it would sum up everything about my current feelings for the club.

Regardless of the result, I'll be more happy if we actually make a game of it, play with creativity, create some decent chances and have more than just a couple of shots on goal. We should be dominating sides like Swansea but in truth we'll be lucky to even win on the possession stats.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on November 24, 2011, 02:07:37 AM: Bore draw 0 - 0
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on November 24, 2011, 07:05:44 AM: This is a tough game. Swansea have only let one opposition player score there this season, in their last game. But given our run of other fixtures, I really think we need to try and win.

There has to be changes from that godawful midfield we put out at WHL. Swansea are a good passing side and I think we may need to shift our 442 formation as a result.

I think I'd play: Herd, Petrov - N'Zogbia, Jenas, Gabby - Bent although I'd consider Bannan for N'Zogbia.

Bench: Guzan, Clark, Cuellar, Delph, Bannan / N'Zogbia, Heskey, Albrighton

So I'm still not finding a place for Gardner (or Ireland). I think I would put GG out on loan with a view to a quick recall if we get injuries or he's clearly brilliant.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Olneythelonely on November 24, 2011, 09:36:26 AM: Quote from: hulkamania on November 23, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
Another loss. Same old dross. Scoreline doesn't matter as a loss is a loss

That's quite beautiful.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simba on November 24, 2011, 09:40:03 AM: Quote from: Olney N'Lonely on November 24, 2011, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: hulkamania on November 23, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
Another loss. Same old dross. Scoreline doesn't matter as a loss is a loss

That's quite beautiful.

Admit it Hulk - you write the insides of Hallmark Valentine cards don't you. :)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hulkamania on November 24, 2011, 11:38:57 AM: Quote from: Simba on November 24, 2011, 09:40:03 AM
Quote from: Olney N'Lonely on November 24, 2011, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: hulkamania on November 23, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
Another loss. Same old dross. Scoreline doesn't matter as a loss is a loss
Get your orders in now folks haha

Should I get it put on big sheets of card to hold up at matches or are we not at that point yet? ;)
Quote from: Simba on November 24, 2011, 09:40:03 AM
Quote from: Olney N'Lonely on November 24, 2011, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: hulkamania on November 23, 2011, 07:58:26 PM
Another loss. Same old dross. Scoreline doesn't matter as a loss is a loss

That's quite beautiful.

Admit it Hulk - you write the insides of Hallmark Valentine cards don't you. :)
That's quite beautiful.

Admit it Hulk - you write the insides of Hallmark Valentine cards don't you. :)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hulkamania on November 24, 2011, 11:40:38 AM: Quite whats happened with the quotes on that last post is beyond me!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on November 24, 2011, 12:04:52 PM: Quote from: KRS on November 24, 2011, 01:49:55 AM

If we lose, then I'll be apathetic in defeat as it would sum up everything about my current feelings for the club.

That apathy is evident in virtually all AV fans, and allows the manager to spout the same script after every loss; 'The players have let me, themselves and the fans down, and they owe us a good performance next week etc etc etc'.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on November 24, 2011, 12:20:31 PM: We are now letting Gardner out on loan, which under different circumstances might be OK, but he's a remarkable young talent and IMO, and he should be on our bench and being brought on every game to blend him into the team.

I fear for a loss against Swansea, and we are slowly spiralling towards the bottom six and could be fighting relegation after Christmas.

If we are unable to beat teams like Swansea, we deserve to go down.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 24, 2011, 12:25:17 PM: Given
Hutton Dunne Clark Warnock
Herd
Petrov Jenas
NZogbia Agbonlahor
Bent

1-2
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on November 24, 2011, 12:41:14 PM: Well, it can't be as bad as Monday can it? We have some friends coming over Sunday for a few drinks, really hope the Villa don't put me in a bad mood. We will either lose 3-0 or win 4-1. I have always defended Heskey, but after Monday night i have no more excuses left. Heskey, Collins and Petrove to come out of the side, Charlie, Jenas and Delph to come in. Gabby to be captain.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on November 24, 2011, 01:44:41 PM: We need to be more imposing offensively in this match, if not they will punish us with their creative qualities.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on November 24, 2011, 02:02:44 PM: I think this match might prove a turning point in the season - only not in a good way. The Spurs match revealed AM's ineptitude as a tactician and motivator and also the failing of key squad members. It could be that we will be on the end of a real spanking here maybe 3-0 or 4-0. Not sure what reaction that will provoke - probably nothing except make our season even more miserable.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on November 24, 2011, 02:19:03 PM: Quote from: Boz on November 24, 2011, 12:20:31 PM
If we are unable to beat teams like Swansea, we deserve to go down.
Thats Liverpool relegated then, fantastic!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on November 24, 2011, 02:22:53 PM: Quote from: Vanilla on November 24, 2011, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: KRS on November 24, 2011, 01:49:55 AM

If we lose, then I'll be apathetic in defeat as it would sum up everything about my current feelings for the club.

That apathy is evident in virtually all AV fans, and allows the manager to spout the same script after every loss; 'The players have let me, themselves and the fans down, and they owe us a good performance next week etc etc etc'.

You say that as though we lose every week, rather than just the 3 defeats 2 of which were away at 1st and 3rd in the league.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on November 24, 2011, 02:42:51 PM: Quote from: hulkamania on November 24, 2011, 11:40:38 AM
Quite whats happened with the quotes on that last post is beyond me!

That's nowhere near as good as your other post :)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on November 24, 2011, 02:48:06 PM: An absolute barnstormer of a game.

Swansea 3 - Villa 5 (Bent 3, Agbonglahor, Heskey)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on November 24, 2011, 04:36:08 PM: Swansea have only lost to Manure this season and are aggressive and forceful at home.
We are neither aggressive or forceful and unless there is an improvement of gargantuan proportions we're gonna get stuffed I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on November 24, 2011, 08:09:17 PM: A draw at best. Praying to God that Eck decides to play players in their natural position and even try something like a 'shot on target'. Swans 1 Villa 0.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on November 24, 2011, 08:28:55 PM: Swansea 1 ( Collins O.G.) Villa 2 (Gabby, Herd)
I'm going for a win more out of hope than anything else. I would like to think that those who played so half-heartily on Monday night will have had a long hard look at themselves and realized that they are cheating the club and supporters with such performances. As i said, more out of hope than anything else.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Barca 2011 on November 24, 2011, 10:22:38 PM: McLeish tells us the players are hurting after mondays performance, have worked hard in training, so same team as monday will start.
Ends with a 1 - 1 draw.
McLeish says his selection is vindicated, H and V in meltdown with another poor performance.
Things just wont change??

Am I Cynical? Yes, and very disillusioned
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: philthebar on November 25, 2011, 10:21:59 AM: Gone for a draw, 1 -1 But I have little confidence
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 25, 2011, 10:23:19 AM: Whatever the result, i just hope we go down there and play a bit of football
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 25, 2011, 11:24:28 AM: Quote from: pauliewalnuts on November 25, 2011, 10:23:19 AM
Whatever the result, i just hope we go down there and play a bit of football

100% agree - to look like a shambles with no idea on national TV makes me sick
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 25, 2011, 11:40:32 AM: I can't think of any away games this season where we've played decent football tbh.

Any injury doubts for this one?
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on November 25, 2011, 11:45:26 AM: Quote from: SoccerHQ on November 25, 2011, 11:40:32 AM
I can't think of any away games this season where we've played decent football tbh.

Any injury doubts for this one?
Petrov and Herd are doubts
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 25, 2011, 11:45:41 AM: Quote from: SoccerHQ on November 25, 2011, 11:40:32 AM
I can't think of any away games this season where we've played decent football tbh.

We were ok at Sunderland and should have won the game and the 2nd half at QPR was more like it, after a terrible first half that is.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 25, 2011, 11:51:36 AM: Yeah forgot Sunderland in the rage of conceding yet another late goal. Sunderland though imo are a poor team and will be close to relegation if they keep Bruce for the whole season.

QPR 2nd half was o.k but we were still sitting back once we scored instead of trying to get that killer 2nd goal.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 25, 2011, 01:52:04 PM: Watched the Tottenham game with a blue nose and he said he is gonna drag Villa down and down. He mentioned his lack of ability as a tactician and he well out of his depth with a team of our reputation and history. Think he will play Hutton regardless. 1-1 at best with 3 shots on goal :-(
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on November 25, 2011, 02:29:25 PM: Quote from: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 25, 2011, 01:52:04 PM
Watched the Tottenham game with a blue nose and he said he is gonna drag Villa down and down. He mentioned his lack of ability as a tactician and he well out of his depth with a team of our reputation and history ...

Yeah, the only Bluenose I really keep in touch with said much the same back in the Summer after the appointment. I was prepared to give the guy some slack, but most of that has gone.
I think the game on Sunday will see us being given a lesson in tight, pacy football, with the home side passing through us.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Compass on November 25, 2011, 03:11:21 PM: Let's hope Gabby is in God mode again because Collins and Hutton will let in 2 goals minimum by running around like a bunch of drunks and Heskey will do nothing apart from fall on his arse like a massive cry baby, while having the touch of a rapist.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on November 25, 2011, 03:54:20 PM: It should be interesting to see how AM sets the side up.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on November 25, 2011, 04:01:43 PM: Quote from: Iago on November 25, 2011, 03:54:20 PM
It should be interesting to see how AM sets the side up.

If he does anything like the other night then he wants shooting. That said I don't think he will, he's picked pretty attacking sides fairly consistently and I think he'll see this as a winnable game.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on November 25, 2011, 04:05:56 PM: 1-2 Bent, Jenas.
Please please no Heskey in the starting line up!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on November 25, 2011, 04:14:48 PM: Quote from: Chris Smith on November 25, 2011, 04:01:43 PM
Quote from: Iago on November 25, 2011, 03:54:20 PM
It should be interesting to see how AM sets the side up.

If he does anything like the other night then he wants shooting. That said I don't think he will, he's picked pretty attacking sides fairly consistently and I think he'll see this as a winnable game.
I sure hope so.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on November 25, 2011, 05:34:22 PM: So according to Matt Kendrick Jeans isnt fit to start, but should get around 30 mins, he thinks Bannan will come in.

I just hope he drops Collins and Hutton and has abit of faith in Ciaran Clark and Carlos Cuellar.

And from what Mcleish has said I think he will rest Herd, who has been our best player with Gabby recently.

--------------Given
Cuellar-Dunne-Clark-Warnock
---------Petrov-Delph
--N'Zogbia-Bannan-Gabby
--------------Bent

Mcleish cannot use the settled back four line, because we are shit at the moment, so i hope more than expect this line up.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 25, 2011, 07:43:18 PM: Quote from: Compass on November 25, 2011, 03:11:21 PM
Let's hope Gabby is in God mode again because Collins and Hutton will let in 2 goals minimum by running around like a bunch of drunks and Heskey will do nothing apart from fall on his arse like a massive cry baby, while having the touch of a rapist.

So, on balance, I think this might be a call for a draw (2-2) at least. And with Gabby in 'God mode' again with benty and heskey, we might even get 3 or 4. 'The touch of a rapist' ...is a fairly flamboyant description of holding up the ball till he can pass, but with Jenas in the team again, anything is possible. The pass could go to him instead of Gabby. The pass could go to anybody going forward, which is the main thing.

OK, Compass, I'm in for 4-2. But I don't think they'll (Swansea) get that many. Villa win!
Title: Swansea
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 25, 2011, 09:44:22 PM: I think Villa will win, just to piss Compass off.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on November 25, 2011, 10:16:36 PM: I fancy us in this one, 2-1 Villa, Bring it on!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on November 26, 2011, 02:49:50 AM: Improved performance in this one, enough to halt the McLeish Out! juggernaut before it can really build up a head of steam.

Mentioned on another thread that's how I see our season going, the red headed one always doing just enough to keep the bedsheets and banners away. Though if we lose this going into our next set of fixtures...

Bright start from Swansea and an early goal, before we get back into the game and actually start to look a bit decent against what is still-lets face it- a Championship line up. Mounting frustration until Ivanhoe pops up with an equalizer in the last 10 minutes. 1-1
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on November 26, 2011, 03:45:28 AM: Quote from: KevinGage on November 26, 2011, 02:49:50 AM
Improved performance in this one, enough to halt the McLeish Out! juggernaut before it can really build up a head of steam.

Mentioned on another thread that's how I see our season going, the red headed one always doing just enough to keep the bedsheets and banners away. Though if we lose this going into our next set of fixtures...

Bright start from Swansea and an early goal, before we get back into the game and actually start to look a bit decent against what is still-lets face it- a Championship line up. Mounting frustration until Ivanhoe pops up with an equalizer in the last 10 minutes. 1-1

Not much of a juggernaut if it can be stopped by a 1-1 draw in South Wales: more like one of those infinitely variable automatic Daf's with a broken rubber band.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on November 26, 2011, 05:00:42 AM: A scrappy win ahead of the tough December fixtures.

Swansea 1 - 0 Villa
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archie on November 26, 2011, 08:32:14 AM: We should try to win because this is the last approachable game before a terrible series that will se us against the top teams.

After the inexplicable performance and team selection at WHL I can't not in highest spirits, but I like to think that you can't keep a good Villa man down.

The reason why I'm not so eager for this match is that I'm quite sure that once again
- the sacred claret and blue shirt will be worn by four unwatchable players that would make William Mc Gregor to turn in his grave, and obviously I refer to: Hutton, Collins, Dunne and Heskey;
- whereas are fit and available Cuellar and three good youngsters that could replace them very well and instead will go on the bench or wil remain at home: Herd, Albrighton, Bannan.

But we are Villans above all. . .;)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on November 26, 2011, 09:10:27 AM: Swansea are one of the best passing teams I've seen this season and have conceded just the one goal at home this season (I think) to united.

It will be tough, but if we get at them we can win, we need players who can keep the ball, so Delph, Bannan, Jenas, N'Zogbia should start for me.

UTV.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on November 26, 2011, 10:23:20 AM: Quote from: Shrek on November 26, 2011, 09:10:27 AM
Swansea are one of the best passing teams I've seen this season and have conceded just the one goal at home this season (I think) to united.

It will be tough, but if we get at them we can win, we need players who can keep the ball, so Delph, Bannan, Jenas, N'Zogbia should start for me.

UTV.

Bolton put one past them as well, but they've only lost once at home (to United) all season. They don't concede many but (famous last words) they don't score many either (8 at home all season). I've revised my prediction from a 2-0 defeat to a 1-1 draw - probably 'cos I've had a lot of alcohol since Monday night and the memory of how abysmal we were has gone a bit fuzzy.

Edit: Just checked and the one Bolton put past them was an own goal!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 26, 2011, 11:25:47 AM: We need the three points and a more positive performance after Monday. I reckon it'll be another draw though.

Stopping down there tonight, i hope the locals are freindly.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on November 26, 2011, 12:16:51 PM: Gone for a draw 1-1. My only worry is that after the dogs abuse he got on the forums and the criticism in the media after Monday nights debacle. AM might just send out the same team tomorrow just to show it's him in charge and not us or the press. Add to that his post match quote that some of them "owe him a performance" and I wouldn't put it past him.
Mr. McLeish. Both you and the players owe us the fans a performance we can be proud of.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 26, 2011, 12:23:49 PM: Quote from: The Laughing Policeman on November 26, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
Gone for a draw 1-1. My only worry is that after the dogs abuse he got on the forums and the criticism in the media after Monday nights debacle. AM might just send out the same team tomorrow just to show it's him in charge and not us or the press. Add to that his post match quote that some of them "owe him a performance" and I wouldn't put it past him.
Mr. McLeish. Both you and the players owe us the fans a performance we can be proud of.

Blimey, if he puts out the same team tomorrow then he doesn't deserve any more time and patience from the fans.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on November 26, 2011, 01:00:40 PM: He's gone on record saying there will be changes to be fair, rightly so. Jenas, N'Zogbia & Bannan should all come back for starters.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 26, 2011, 01:03:59 PM: He's also gone on record as saying that players who can't defend set pieces will be replaced. Yet Collins still remains in the team.

I do think there will be changes, how could there not be?

I've said it before this season, and I'll say it again. Ireland and Bannan need to be in the same team.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on November 26, 2011, 02:12:12 PM: Im driving down at 9.30, is there a place or pub where there will be a few villains?
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on November 26, 2011, 03:37:12 PM: Realistically I imagine we'll lose 2-0.

Hopefully AMc will be true to his word and drop the non-trying dross from Monday and look to be less submissive and try and attack Swansea

Given

Herd Cuellar Dunne Clark

Albrighton Jenas Petrov N'Zogbia

Bent Gabby

1-3 Bent hatrick
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 26, 2011, 03:42:03 PM: Quote from: Clampy on November 26, 2011, 11:25:47 AM
We need the three points and a more positive performance after Monday. I reckon it'll be another draw though.

Stopping down there tonight, i hope the locals are freindly.

Spent lots of time down there Clampy. Most locals are friendly but Saturday nights in town can get a bit hairy. Avoid their version of Broad Street (like you would our Broad Street) - can't remember the name of the road but you'll spot it. Mumbles, just up the road from 'Abertawe' itself is a nice place so check that out for little pubs etc if that's your thing.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 26, 2011, 06:42:27 PM: Quote from: Shrek on November 26, 2011, 02:12:12 PM
Im driving down at 9.30, is there a place or pub where there will be a few villains?

Apparently Port Talbot is advertising itself as having pubs open early with away fans welcome. No idea what it's like though.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on November 26, 2011, 07:01:34 PM: Quote from: taylorsworkrate on November 26, 2011, 01:03:59 PM

I've said it before this season, and I'll say it again. Ireland and Bannan need to be in the same team.

Stephen Ireland takes a lot of stick around here -a fair bit of it is justified, mind. Yet he and wee Barry were at the heart of everything we did well v QPR in the second half. And then soon after that match (around the time Ivanhoe returned to something approaching full fitness... for him) SI was banished again.

He might blow hot and cold, but Ivanhoe is consistently Baltic.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 26, 2011, 07:18:13 PM: Quote from: Marlon From Bearwood on November 26, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
Quote from: Shrek on November 26, 2011, 02:12:12 PM
Im driving down at 9.30, is there a place or pub where there will be a few villains?

Apparently Port Talbot is advertising itself as having pubs open early with away fans welcome. No idea what it's like though.

It's an eye sore. But the people are friendly enough.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on November 26, 2011, 07:28:45 PM: Quote from: KevinGage on November 26, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
Quote from: taylorsworkrate on November 26, 2011, 01:03:59 PM

I've said it before this season, and I'll say it again. Ireland and Bannan need to be in the same team.
.

Stephen Ireland takes a lot of stick around here -a fair bit of it is justified, mind. Yet he and wee Barry were at the heart of everything we did well v QPR in the second half. And then soon after that match (around the time Ivanhoe returned to something approaching full fitness... for him) SI was banished again.

He might blow hot and cold, but Ivanhoe is consistently Baltic.

It was after his non performance at Man City that Ireland returned to his natural habitat.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 26, 2011, 08:49:58 PM: I hope we go down there and try to win the match.

Any less and he will rightly get slaughtered.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frank on November 26, 2011, 08:54:24 PM: Very rowdy down Swansea tonight. I could hear "Who needs Barry" and "Gabby Gabby Gabby" several streets away
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: swiss1968 on November 26, 2011, 09:06:13 PM: I am seriously dreading this game aftter the spurzzz result,unless mc changes the team and tactic's,get the butler prayer mat out lol.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 26, 2011, 09:09:05 PM: Orange dot, perhaps?
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on November 26, 2011, 10:13:43 PM: Quote from: frank on November 26, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
Very rowdy down Swansea tonight. I could hear "Who needs Barry" and "Gabby Gabby Gabby" several streets away

That could well be 'you know who and his mates'.

For anybody coming down tomorrow,it's wet, windy and cold.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on November 26, 2011, 11:18:30 PM: Quote from: villajk on November 26, 2011, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: frank on November 26, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
Very rowdy down Swansea tonight. I could hear "Who needs Barry" and "Gabby Gabby Gabby" several streets away

That could well be 'you know who and his mates'.

For anybody coming down tomorrow,it's wet, windy and cold.

It's often like this in Wales.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on November 26, 2011, 11:24:24 PM: Quote from: TaxDodger on November 26, 2011, 11:18:30 PM
Quote from: villajk on November 26, 2011, 10:13:43 PM
Quote from: frank on November 26, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
Very rowdy down Swansea tonight. I could hear "Who needs Barry" and "Gabby Gabby Gabby" several streets away

That could well be 'you know who and his mates'.

For anybody coming down tomorrow,it's wet, windy and cold.

It's often like this in Wales.

Where our caravan is we often 'lose' the weather in the mountains. Bit of a shock to find that it really is cold, wet and windy in Wales.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 26, 2011, 11:36:30 PM: We have to go to play, if we do that we have a chance. If we play this inept shut up shop tactic we are destined to be beaten and deservedly so.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 26, 2011, 11:44:04 PM: I am more nervous about this match than I have been about a game for ages.

I honestly feel this is a pivotal moment. We have the chance to bury the utter embarrassment of Monday.

We either take the chance or we let it fester.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on November 27, 2011, 12:02:26 AM: The big problem is that we all expect to beat Swansea but unfortunately they aren't mugs at the Liberty and we might find it more difficult than we expect.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 27, 2011, 12:09:36 AM: The thing is, though, we all know that in the PL, outside the top clutch of clubs, it is all pretty meh, there's really not much exceptional going on, so not taking three points would not be the biggest of surprises.

What isn't on, though, is going down there and not trying to win the match.

I can't believe McLeish would be stupid enough to do that after Monday night, though.

In fact, that's the stupid thing about playing the way we did on Monday. Had we gone down there and *tried* to compete in the match, regardless of the result, there would be considerably less pressure on us than there is now looking at tomorrow's match.

He's efffectively got all those scrutinising him - and some of them will indeed be looking for the slightest excuse to slaughter him - extra vigilant, just looking for the chance to give him a kicking.

That's what makes Monday so fucking infuriating.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on November 27, 2011, 12:42:06 AM: The other aspect to it is if we have a manager that effectively says after the game 'Spurs are in a different league to us so it's OK to go there and not even attempt to win' he really has to maximise games against the 'lesser' sides.

It's a pressure he has created all for himself.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on November 27, 2011, 01:35:39 AM: Quote
He's effectively got all those scrutinising him - and some of them will indeed be looking for the slightest excuse to slaughter him - extra vigilant, just looking for the chance to give him a kicking.

That's what makes Monday so fucking infuriating.
McLeish was always going to be under pressure at the slightest negative performance or result. Monday was atrocious, but AM has a chance to redeem himself with a good performance/ result today.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on November 27, 2011, 03:24:40 AM: I think we will go looking for a draw and will mange to scrape one. With the likes of Heskey,Hutton,Warnock and Collins in the side a draw is the best i can see us getting.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on November 27, 2011, 06:30:54 AM: This has the feel of the first Stoke game to me. I have no idea who plays for Swansea, couldn't name a single player. If we were to line up the two team sheets one for one, it would probably appear to be no contest.

I am just hoping that the customary promotees early season buoyancy ended last week when ManU beat them.

It's a bit much that we are playing Swansea and I am clutching at straws without any identifiable reason for doing so.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: godzvilla on November 27, 2011, 07:25:54 AM: I,m in Singapore for this game , went to Clarke Quay last night and saw plenty of places showing the Premier League . Can any Villa Fans in Singapore tell me if there,s a regular place they go to to watch the mighty Villa ?, thankyou...............Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on November 27, 2011, 08:07:13 AM: I don't "expect us to win". But I do expect some conviction on and off the ball. I'd definitely want to put more ball players in the side, but it's a bit hard to know whether Bannan is in the right condition.

I think I'd go 4-3-3, with Petrov, Herd and Bannan / Delph, and with N'Zogbia, Bent and Gabby up top. I'd start Jenas but I don't think he's considered fit?

I don't really know why, but I have a feeling Delph is likely to come back into some form. He was really good at the start of the season, then his form went completely downhill
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simba on November 27, 2011, 08:36:14 AM: Quote from: Legion on November 26, 2011, 09:09:05 PM
Orange dot, perhaps?

Oh yes, of course. Orange Dot please. No wonder we have been struggling, without the mystical O.D.

Stick it up here Legion, we need it.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Neil Hawkes on November 27, 2011, 09:02:58 AM: We'd better friggin' win, as I'll be down the pub bantering with a clutch of Man utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle & Arsenal supporters.
If not I may just walk across the road into the Mediterranean and keep on walking!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on November 27, 2011, 09:09:17 AM: Swansea are far from a great team, but they do pass the ball around quickly and smartly, which is exactly why I am worried about this one. Dunne, Collins, Heskey.....a fair few of our players simplybcan't cope with that.

Normally, you'd expect a decent team to counter that by keeping the ball and using it smartly themselves, but unfortunately I don't think we can manage that, either. Certainly not with mental team selections like that we saw last Monday!

Pick the right team, and I reckon we can get the points. Play for a draw, we'll lose.

I'd go;

Given

Hutton, Cuellar, Clark, Warnock,

Petrov
Herd. Bannan

Albrighton. Agbonlahor

Bent
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on November 27, 2011, 09:26:33 AM: Can't see us dropping BOTH centre backs, I doubt we'll drop either. Do want to see clark at centre back at some point.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on November 27, 2011, 09:36:29 AM: I know, Matt, it's not likely at all. I can even see why we possibly shouldn't.

But that's the team I'd pick. I'm pretty fed up of Dunne and Collins, and I still have some resentment over their shenanigans from last season!

I really must move on!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on November 27, 2011, 09:57:02 AM: I think dunne has been good this year, Collins more inconsistent.

Cuellar has to be the technically least proficient spaniard playing today. I think people go way overboard about his qualities personally. But could bd worth a go too.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on November 27, 2011, 10:14:23 AM: AM said weeks ago he would drop the guilty parties if we continues to concede goals from corners.
This didn't happen so I wouldn't be surprised if he continues with Dunne & Collins as the central halves.
Collins needs dropping though, he was a shambles on Monday night.
I would be happy with either Carlos or Clarke in for Collins, I won't hold my breath though.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 27, 2011, 10:15:55 AM: Quote from: Matt Collins on November 27, 2011, 09:57:02 AM
I think dunne has been good this year, Collins more inconsistent.

Cuellar has to be the technically least proficient spaniard playing today. I think people go way overboard about his qualities personally. But could bd worth a go too.

But can you think of one glaring mistake Cuellar's made, or one bad game he's had?

I'd go Dunne and Cuellar.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on November 27, 2011, 10:20:04 AM: Scott Sinclair and Nathan Dyer are gonna twist our defence inside out. Danny Graham is a very decent centre forward, just can't finish.

We'll lose.

2-1. Petrov again for us.

I'd like to see us go:

Given
Cuellar - Dunne - Collins - Warnock
Clark
N'Zogbia - Petrov - Jenas - Gabby
Bent
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on November 27, 2011, 10:21:59 AM: Quote from: gervilla on November 27, 2011, 10:14:23 AM
AM said weeks ago he would drop the guilty parties if we continues to concede goals from corners.
This didn't happen so I wouldn't be surprised if he continues with Dunne & Collins as the central halves.
Collins needs dropping though, he was a shambles on Monday night.
I would be happy with either Carlos or Clarke in for Collins, I won't hold my breath though.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2529311,00.html
Sigh........
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 27, 2011, 10:32:26 AM: (http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u149/HVLegion/Villa/ORANGEDOT.gif)
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on November 27, 2011, 10:44:42 AM: I read on a Swansea message board somewhere yesterday that they hope Collins is playing - saying he's as bad for Villa as he is for Wales. Hopefully we'll see Clark in for Collins but I just can't see McLeish dropping him
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on November 27, 2011, 10:56:47 AM: Quote from: gervilla on November 27, 2011, 10:14:23 AM
AM said weeks ago he would drop the guilty parties if we continues to concede goals from corners.
This didn't happen so I wouldn't be surprised if he continues with Dunne & Collins as the central halves.
Collins needs dropping though, he was a shambles on Monday night.
I would be happy with either Carlos or Clarke in for Collins, I won't hold my breath though.
It would be a complete joke if Collins starts.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on November 27, 2011, 10:57:55 AM: Seems there in-form striker is back and in contention to start as well as there better defender and midfielder, so they look as though they could be putting out a good side.

That said they don't compare to Villa and really they shouldn't, they maybe a strongish side but we should have plenty.

As said earlier in the week after the very low point v Spurs, we lose this and McLiesh should consider his position and so should Falkner after that mid week declaration that we are on course for Europe, ffs they must let him out from his rubber room just to face the press with no idea of how the club are performing.

Swansea are fighters IMO, just the kind of team Villa cave into, hope I'm wrong, would love to see a real team and Gabby performance, my feeling is the board could be in meltdown this evening.....
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on November 27, 2011, 10:58:51 AM: 2-0 to Swansea. I expect we'll play better and be more attacking than we were at Spurs but I also think we'll lose.

I just have no faith in them right now.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on November 27, 2011, 11:15:29 AM: Well its match day, bit of bravado and all that, so........

Swansea 0-2 Villa.

or, head says.

2-1 Swansea.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on November 27, 2011, 11:39:46 AM: Not expecting a win, but we may get one.

I'm going 2-1 Villa ( in hope).
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 27, 2011, 12:14:06 PM: Quote from: Steve N'Rose on November 27, 2011, 06:30:54 AM
I have no idea who plays for Swansea, couldn't name a single player.

Ivor Allchurch ?
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rbcuk on November 27, 2011, 12:37:39 PM: Given, Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Herd, Delph, N’Zogbia, Heskey, Bent, Agbonlahor. Subs: Guzan, Bannan, Albrighton, Clark, Cuellar, Delfouneso, Jenas.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on November 27, 2011, 12:43:56 PM: Should have started with Jenas for Heskey and Clark for Collins
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AsTallAsLions on November 27, 2011, 12:45:05 PM: Petrov's out injured and Ireland can't even get a place on a bench?

Jesus, McLeish.
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on November 27, 2011, 12:45:20 PM: Petrov injured? Why Heskey instead of Jenas?
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 27, 2011, 01:10:04 PM: Heskey again? Really? Collins?? OK, prove me wrong!
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on November 27, 2011, 01:14:51 PM: If that team is not performing by half-time then I will await the changes with interest/trepidation.
Ireland not on the bench is a shock though...
Title: Re: Swansea City v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shoody on November 27, 2011, 02:11:10 PM: Id bring on Jenas (Delph) and either Bannan or Albrighton for Heskey.

Then play either Bannan or Nzogbia behind Bent and either Nzogbia or Albrighton on the right.

3 Bookings now too. All of them 'defensive' players. Delph has to come off because of his booking. If we had Stan on the bench I would also put Herd at Right back and bring Stan on for Hutton... but we cant. Hutton cant lunge in for a tackle on Sinclair all game now.. its going to be a nightmare.