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Title: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 27, 2011, 10:42:34 AM
2-0 Home win

Agbonlahor 12
N'Zogbia 66
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on September 27, 2011, 10:48:18 AM
3-1. A must win IMO.


EDIT: Oh and i reckon this is N'Zogbia's once every 3 months good game. If he's not up for this one  then i despair.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 27, 2011, 10:58:09 AM
I know I said this before the Newcastle game but I'm confident of a win here.

It will be tempting for AM to bring in Bent and/or Jenas but I would go with the same starting line up as Sunday and change it if need be. If Ireland and Bannan can continue to link up like they did at times against QPR there should be lots of chances made.

Anybody know if they still have defensive injuries?  It looked like Figeuroa had an absolute mare at CB against Spuds.

I'm going for 3-1 home win, Delph, Gabby and the Zog.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 27, 2011, 11:07:18 AM
Another draw for me, 1-1 I reckon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 27, 2011, 11:19:41 AM
3-0 Villa

AM will get them fired up, N'Zog will score against his old club.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 27, 2011, 11:24:25 AM
I heard someone say the other day that we've never beaten Wigan at VP since they joined us in the PL in 2005.  So I had a look back at the results, and sure enough they go 0-2, 1-1, 0-2, 0-0, 0-2, 1-1. So given that they follow a draw by beating us 2-0, stats say they'll win by that scoreline.

So I've gone for us to win 2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on September 27, 2011, 11:29:16 AM
Villa 3 Wigan 1 (Agbonglahor, N'Zogbia, Delph)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 27, 2011, 11:32:40 AM
I didn't realise we had that bad a record against them at home!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: philthebar on September 27, 2011, 11:34:48 AM
1 - 0 win, close fought battle, not pretty to look at.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on September 27, 2011, 11:38:33 AM
2-0 with a man of the match performance from wee Barry Bannan!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on September 27, 2011, 11:45:20 AM
2-1 Villa with N'Zogbia to score.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 27, 2011, 11:55:28 AM
Anybody know if they still have defensive injuries?  It looked like Figeuroa had an absolute mare at CB against Spuds.

According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php) Boyce and Alcarez are still out.  Added bonus is it looks like Rodallega is also injured
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on September 27, 2011, 12:01:23 PM
4-0.  Bannan, Gabby and N'zogbia(2).  Wigan are shocking and I think we'll push on with the positives from our second half performance on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 27, 2011, 12:02:05 PM
That's good news, thanks CJ. They are much weaker defensively than wolves or newcastle. If we don't win this I really will start to worry. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DerHammer on September 27, 2011, 12:02:30 PM
It will be either 0-0. 1-1. 2-2. 44-44. 1024-1024 or 11,200,234-11,200,234.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: fredm on September 27, 2011, 12:34:52 PM
I didn't realise we had that bad a record against them at home!

They usually play their neat passing style of football and run us off the park!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 27, 2011, 01:05:05 PM
It's fair to say we're due a win against this lot at VP! We blomming need one aswell.

2-1 win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on September 27, 2011, 01:05:57 PM
1-0 win, Bent 90+2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 27, 2011, 01:17:43 PM
A lot of people expecting a big game from N'Zogbia then.....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 27, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
He's bound to come good at some point, Risso. And wigan are a team he should get a lot of opportunities to run at.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 27, 2011, 01:22:31 PM
1-0
Late Bent winner
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 27, 2011, 01:34:37 PM
It will be either 0-0. 1-1. 2-2. 44-44. 1024-1024 or 11,200,234-11,200,234.

Funnily enough I dreamt this last night.
We were coasting to a comfortable 11,200,234 - 11,200,233  victory then Dunne put through his own goal.   

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 27, 2011, 01:39:02 PM
Draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on September 27, 2011, 01:43:08 PM
If we can't win this one, we are certainly in for a long difficult season.

Despite our poor record against Wigan at VP, we have to beat teams like this just to remain mid table.

What I find hard to understand is AM's statements about protecting the younger players like Bannan. Other clubs have young players in their teams and don't seem to to rest them like Villa do. Bannan is one of our our better perfoming players yet he gets taken off on Sunday.

I see he's attracting the attention of Fergie as a potential January signing, so yet again we could be losing one of our academy developers and you couldn't blame him if ManUre come calling.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on September 27, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Another draw for me, 1-1 I reckon.
Another draw for me, 1-1 I reckon.

Yes, agree a draw or defeat as the last few games we've played against Wigan at Villa Park. Still no victory! If we score, N'Zogbia to be the goalscorer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 27, 2011, 01:46:42 PM
Their luck at Villa Park has run out.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 27, 2011, 01:53:57 PM




I see he's attracting the attention of Fergie as a potential January signing, so yet again we could be losing one of our academy developers and you couldn't blame him if ManUre come calling.



Bannan signed a 3 and a half year contract in Nov 2010 .At the time I didn't think it was long enough.No doubt we'll bring him to his full potential he'll refuse to sign a new contract and then Fergie will steal him from us with a year to go on his contract.Sounding familiar ??
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 27, 2011, 01:58:03 PM
Bannan's still only 21 isn't he?  I'm sure if we stuck a 4 or 5 year contract in front of him this season he would sign it.  Lets hope the board/management are on top of this.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on September 27, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
2-1 Win Bent and Gabby to score.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on September 27, 2011, 02:25:36 PM
2-1 win.

Must win, and just as importantly must play well.  NO excuses not to against a depleted Wigan side.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 27, 2011, 02:36:45 PM
Must win this one to make a decent start a good one, and maybe get some of the fans from being doom and gloom all the while.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on September 27, 2011, 02:37:21 PM
A draw obviously. 1-1.

We go into the lead in the first half but concede in the 83rd minute. N'Zog subbed after 72 useless minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Morten on September 27, 2011, 02:41:15 PM
Good news on the injury front according to the official home page. Bent, Heskey, Clark and Jenas all ready.

We have to play 2 strikers, so I would go for a 4-4-2: Given - Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock - Bannan, Petrov, Jenas, N'Zogbia - Agbonlahor, Bent. Subs: Guzan, Clark, Delph, Ireland, Albrighton, Heskey, Delfouneso.

3-0 Win. Bent x 2 and Gabby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 27, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
I'd like to see clark start at lb if he's fit. Warnock scares me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 27, 2011, 02:55:38 PM
Given
Hutton Collins Dunne Warnock
Petrov
Jenas Bannan
Agbonlahor..............N'Zogbia
Bent


4-0.

We'll do 'em.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: austin on September 27, 2011, 03:03:33 PM
1 nil

Collins from a corner

29,756 crowd

loud boo's at halftime
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on September 27, 2011, 03:29:55 PM
2-1 to the Villa, we are due a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on September 27, 2011, 03:36:03 PM
I wonder what the reaction to Martinez will be like, if anything?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on September 27, 2011, 04:03:49 PM
2-2

Bent, Agbonahor

36k
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on September 27, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
2-0. Bannan double.

Either that or a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 27, 2011, 04:44:55 PM
1-1 draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on September 27, 2011, 04:46:33 PM
Head says another draw as we usually stumble against Wigan but heart says 2-0 win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on September 27, 2011, 05:17:57 PM
I've been saying this for ages but the law of averages says we have to beat them at home sometime. Plus we can't keep drawing. 3-0. Agbonlahor 45, Collins 83, Bannan 90.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on September 27, 2011, 06:29:36 PM
If we perform like the second half against QPR, i reckon a 2-0 win.
Gabby and Bannan
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on September 27, 2011, 06:53:09 PM
3-1 to the Villa

Jenas to feature and play a decisive role. N'Zogbia starts to show some signs of coming around.

Hope we get at least 30k.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on September 27, 2011, 07:17:28 PM
4-1 Villa, think they have a goal in them, we are without doubt due a few goals in a game and the human body can only take so many draws.

Must win and we will no probs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 27, 2011, 07:23:49 PM
Dear God just win

We haven't had a 5-3 for a while have we?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 27, 2011, 07:29:11 PM
I'd go

Given

Herd-Dunne-Collins-Warnock

-----Petrov-Jenas

N'Zogbia-Ireland-Bannan

---------Gabby


Delph needs abit of pressure taken off him and should be taken out the firing line IMO.
Hutton is fuxking shit! Herd was better in the game I saw him before Hitton turned up.

Gabby deserves his place and Bent's been poor so far and should be given time to get 100% before he returns.

We played some decent stuff second half at QPR, so abit of continuity wouldn't be such a bad thing by sticking with the same front 4.

So I'm going 3-1 Gabby, N'Zogbia, Ireland, Diame for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on September 27, 2011, 07:36:43 PM
Like the look of that team, Shrek.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on September 27, 2011, 07:36:56 PM
Shrek: Gabby's always good for it IMO, he's pretty much always there or there about, either scoring or crafting the goal as in the penalty.

Gabby and Shay, first on the team sheet and its where we go from there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 27, 2011, 07:47:20 PM
Like the look of that team, Shrek.

Me too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 27, 2011, 07:51:57 PM
Like the look of that team, Shrek.

Me too.

Although it's reliant on our fullbacks getting forward a whole lot it might work.  The early shoots of recovery for Ireland and his link ups with Bannan against QPR second half is something we definitely need to build on. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 27, 2011, 08:44:37 PM
I Thought Ireland was terrible on sunday but towards the end seemed to grow in confidence, I think the fact he got 90 mins will be a big boost to him aswell, so I'd give him a chance.

For me Given, Dunne, Collins, Bannan and Gabby are dead certs on current form.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa-love on September 27, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
Herds out for a couple of weeks according to avtv video.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on September 27, 2011, 09:36:54 PM
We'll piss this one 3-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 27, 2011, 09:40:10 PM
We have NEVER beaten Wigan at VP in their entire history. It can not go on. We must win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on September 27, 2011, 09:41:41 PM
If we play like we did first half v QPR 0-1.
If we play like we did second half v QPR  3-1.
Which Villa turns up is any ones guess....I'm going for 3-1 to us. ( Gabby, Bannan, Dunne )
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on September 27, 2011, 09:43:26 PM
Were going to click and piss this one 6-0 (Gabby, N'zogbia, Bannan, Collins, Bent 2), either that or 0-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on September 27, 2011, 10:13:06 PM
We've got to beat them at VP one day and that day is this Saturday. 3 - 1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on September 27, 2011, 10:24:29 PM
every season i think we are going to beat them at home and we never do,So im going for yet another draw. 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 27, 2011, 11:50:35 PM
1-1. We never beat them at home unless Nii Lamptey plays.

I never thought when I watched us twat them 5-0 all those years ago that a) we'd ever play them in the league b) never beat the feckers at home when the unlikely scenario of A happened.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on September 28, 2011, 03:42:27 AM
Bent fit, Jenas, Heskey & Clark too. I'd seriously consider leaving N'Zogbia out, I know it's against his old club & all that but he's looked absolute crap so far, looks devoid of confidence & should sit this one out imo.

We'll win though, you mark my words!

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 28, 2011, 08:28:36 AM
I'd shake it up a bit.

Given

Hutton
Collins
Dunne
Warnock

Jenas
Petrov
Ireland

Agbonlahor
Bent
Heskey
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 28, 2011, 08:29:26 AM
I think this will be the game we beat these fuckers. We're not very confident, there's a bit of negativity around the place, we'll turn it on, and AM will shut a few up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on September 28, 2011, 11:01:50 AM
Win.  PLEASE!

6-0.  Bent scoring all six.  Five in his next game.  Four in the next. 

Sold to Chelsea in exchange of Can You Hear The Drums, Torres?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Merv on September 28, 2011, 11:08:48 AM
I really want to get Clark involved again - we need to either use him in a defensive midfield role or look to start bedding him in to be Dunne's CB partner. But to pitch him straight in at CB after a knock is perhaps too soon, and I don't think we need a defensive specialist in midfield at home to Wigan. So, I'd stick with the same back five and then go with:

                            Jenas            Delph

                                     Bannan

                     Agbonlahor    Bent        N'Zogbia


Depending on how the game pans out, I'd be looking to give Ireland 30 mins for Bannan, Clark a run for Delph for 15-20 mins, and Albrighton on for N'Zog or Gabby for about the same.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on September 28, 2011, 11:33:03 AM
I'm hoping this is the game that inspires N'Zog. There wasn't a fat lot wrong on Sunday (second half) but we need to create more clear cut chances. Gabby does not deserve to be dropped.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on September 28, 2011, 11:56:33 AM
Big game............................And we are so going to beat them bad...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 28, 2011, 12:27:49 PM
Think we'll go with:

Given

Hutton Dunne Collins Warnock

Jenas   Petrov
                                                   
Gabby        Bannan       N'Zogbia

Bent

Would like to see Herd at RB but think McLeish will persist with Hutton
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on September 28, 2011, 02:22:35 PM
The above team for me too, with Guzan, Heskey, Ireland, Albrighton, Delph, Clark and Cuellar on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 28, 2011, 03:25:45 PM
We will win this I'm sure of it.  I only bet when I'm sure of it and I'm betting on this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 28, 2011, 03:37:38 PM
I had a dream last night we won 4-0 and Agbonlahor got all 4! im pretty sure he won't but Im definately having Gabby score 1st and Villa win 4-0, so my prediction...1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on September 28, 2011, 03:38:46 PM
We will win this I'm sure of it.  I only bet when I'm sure of it and I'm betting on this.

How often do you win though?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on September 28, 2011, 04:00:10 PM
29,756 crowd

Not optimistic about the crowd for this one.  Below 28,000.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DB on September 28, 2011, 05:06:57 PM
After last week, drop N'zog for Bent, otherwise keep the midfield, they did well 2nd half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 28, 2011, 06:43:49 PM
4-0  Villa


Bent 2
Ireland
Dunne
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 28, 2011, 08:57:18 PM
29,756 crowd

Not optimistic about the crowd for this one.  Below 28,000.


I'd say 34k I'm bringing a few mates who took up that £5 offer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtenderinthesky on September 28, 2011, 09:45:51 PM
A draw.  We'll play for 0-0 and get it thanks to a few super saves from Shay Given.  That IS McLeish's game plan after all.   >:(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on September 28, 2011, 10:04:53 PM
Dunno why, but convinced that Villa will win & Nzogbia will be something more than useless for the first time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 29, 2011, 04:58:07 AM
Has anyone else noticed how pathetic our attacking set pieces have been this season?

Seeing as we are a kick and rush team these days surely we need to prioritize improving this?

Petrov was taking the corners the last day, fairly pathetic. No pace or direction
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: willywombat on September 29, 2011, 05:15:33 AM
A 4-0 win with N'Zogbia a certain scorer
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 29, 2011, 08:49:46 AM
Brontebilly, if you look at the things the manager has said, and the way the team tried to play in the 2nd half last Sunday, I can't see how you can call us a kick and rush team.

And when you only have about 2 players above 6ft in you whole team swinging balls into the box from set pieces doesn't seem like the most pragmatic strategy to me. I think this is why Petrov was trying those 'pathetic' low corners.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 29, 2011, 10:01:38 AM
Think the team will be fired up for this one after a positive 2nd half against QPR. 3-1 Villa Nzogbia to get his first goal. Bannan and Bent .......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 29, 2011, 10:11:19 AM
Brontebilly, if you look at the things the manager has said, and the way the team tried to play in the 2nd half last Sunday, I can't see how you can call us a kick and rush team.

And when you only have about 2 players above 6ft in you whole team swinging balls into the box from set pieces doesn't seem like the most pragmatic strategy to me. I think this is why Petrov was trying those 'pathetic' low corners.

Collins and Dunne were very successful at causing problems in the opposition box a couple of years back. We just need a far better delivery to get them firing again. Petrov hasn't the technique to do it. His efforts were pretty embarrassing.

Even in the second half last week, how many moves of more than 5 passes were made in the opposition half? We don't value possession at all. I know Man Utd have better players but the ball is hoofed at only a very last resort. Players pass the ball to feet and seek the return. Our midfield hides and our defenders and keeper just hoof it in the general area of Gabby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 29, 2011, 10:12:54 AM
We will win this I'm sure of it.  I only bet when I'm sure of it and I'm betting on this.

How often do you win though?

2 bets last year which I was sure were going to come off and they did.  This will be a 3rd.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on September 29, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
We will win this I'm sure of it.  I only bet when I'm sure of it and I'm betting on this.

How often do you win though?

2 bets last year which I was sure were going to come off and they did.  This will be a 3rd.

Sounds promising!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 29, 2011, 10:50:14 AM
Brontebilly,

Collins and dunne can be a threat in the area, but that's it in terms of height in our team.

And I think we did try to play good football on Sunday. Delph had a couple of chances where he made good runs and got behind the defence and I thought ireland and bannan showed signs they could become a good partnership with their interplay.  It wasn't perfect but this is still a new look team really so I don't think you can just state 'we are a kick and rush team' at this point. 

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on September 29, 2011, 11:36:08 AM
Now we have more players available, I actually think we will win this one (had predicted 0-0).

I think Heskey and Jenas will both come in, which will help us keep possession. Can see N'Zogbia playing well against his old club as well. Can see McLeish picking something like this:

.....................Given...................

Hutton...Collins....Dunne....Warnock


..............Petrov.....Jenas............

Gabby...........Heskey..........N'Zogbia

.......................Bent.....................


Pity to see Bannan dropped, but Heskey does help us keep the ball, and Jenas would be more effective at defending. It might not be pretty but I do think we will win. 1-0 to the Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Cjamesk on September 29, 2011, 02:07:43 PM
I'm travelling over from Holland so I'm hoping a 3-1 win!!!!!

Even if our home record is poor against them! I'm hoping that we start the way we did against QPR in the  2nd half (minus the late OG!), muchos better well anything would've been better than the first 45mins!!!!!

UTV!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on September 29, 2011, 02:57:59 PM
Fantastic exclaiming!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on September 29, 2011, 03:10:14 PM
I am treating my girlfriend to this match (£5 ticket) aren't I a great boyfriend??
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 29, 2011, 03:23:40 PM
It should be a lovely day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 29, 2011, 03:35:29 PM
3-0 win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on September 29, 2011, 03:44:59 PM
I am treating my girlfriend to this match (£5 ticket) aren't I a great boyfriend??

The game to take her to would have been the Wolves. Too expensive, no goals and only about 20 minutes of entertainment. She'd never want to go again!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
I am treating my girlfriend to this match (£5 ticket) aren't I a great boyfriend??

The game to take her to would have been the Wolves. Too expensive, no goals and only about 20 minutes of entertainment. She'd never want to go again!

20 minutes?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 29, 2011, 06:32:17 PM
It's most certainly a game AM can't afford to lose and despite our poor record at Villa Park against Wigan, it's not an excuse that will hold water. Three points and a great show will give him some breathing space; defeat and he may as well walk out now.

Despite Wigan's current league position, Martinez still has them playing some decent football and it's important we match them on that front. If we hoof it they'll do what they normally do and pass it around us. It's vital that we build on the second half of the QPR game, which is why I wouldn't be recalling Heskey, even if he does give us a bit of strength in midfield. We need all our midfielders to be strong, get at them, not allowing them the space they enjoy. Everton got in their faces and had a comfortable 3-1 win at Goodison, Spurs backed off last week and got away with a 2-1 win, despite being 2-0 up.

I really hope AM has them fired up for this one, there's plenty of competition for places in midfield so no excuses for anybody not giving less than 100%. The other obvious point is improving the supply to Bent and for that I'd be tempted to include both Bannan and Ireland in the starting line up. As Henry Winter pointed out the other day, it's time to unleash the team and those two, both appearing to be full of confidence, can help us create the changes. If Jenas is fit and had a good week in training, bring him in, if not Stan needs to sit back more and work with Delph, not leaving him exposed.

Tough choice with N'Zogbia but I'd drop him. He just hasn't done enough to warrant a place in the team and AM can't afford any passengers in a game he must win. Three points and a convincing win, especially at Villa Park, will give everybody a much needed lift.

I'm going for a convincing 2-0 win and a few surprised but happy faces come Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 29, 2011, 06:55:42 PM
It's Wigan at home, we'll lose or draw.

The game up there will be postponed before we win the re-match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 29, 2011, 07:03:09 PM
2-1

N'Zobia to get his first for us against his old club  The immutable law of the ex, and all that.  Gabby the other. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on September 29, 2011, 07:48:28 PM
It's most certainly a game AM can't afford to lose and despite our poor record at Villa Park against Wigan, it's not an excuse that will hold water. Three points and a great show will give him some breathing space; defeat and he may as well walk out now.

Despite Wigan's current league position, Martinez still has them playing some decent football and it's important we match them on that front. If we hoof it they'll do what they normally do and pass it around us. It's vital that we build on the second half of the QPR game, which is why I wouldn't be recalling Heskey, even if he does give us a bit of strength in midfield. We need all our midfielders to be strong, get at them, not allowing them the space they enjoy. Everton got in their faces and had a comfortable 3-1 win at Goodison, Spurs backed off last week and got away with a 2-1 win, despite being 2-0 up.

I really hope AM has them fired up for this one, there's plenty of competition for places in midfield so no excuses for anybody not giving less than 100%. The other obvious point is improving the supply to Bent and for that I'd be tempted to include both Bannan and Ireland in the starting line up. As Henry Winter pointed out the other day, it's time to unleash the team and those two, both appearing to be full of confidence, can help us create the changes. If Jenas is fit and had a good week in training, bring him in, if not Stan needs to sit back more and work with Delph, not leaving him exposed.

Tough choice with N'Zogbia but I'd drop him. He just hasn't done enough to warrant a place in the team and AM can't afford any passengers in a game he must win. Three points and a convincing win, especially at Villa Park, will give everybody a much needed lift.

I'm going for a convincing 2-0 win and a few surprised but happy faces come Saturday evening.

Agree with this, after this we start to get down to the business end of teams coming up with Man City next, we lose or even draw this one and the start we have had takes on a whole different look, well project yourself forward to this time Saturday night and we have just been beaten or yet another draw and you'll begin to get the picture.

All that said..............No chance.

Win win situation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on September 29, 2011, 11:26:38 PM
3-1 to the Villa

Bent, Gabby and Jenas to put us 3 up before a defensive fuck up on 80+ minutes allows them to grab a consolation
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on September 30, 2011, 12:11:28 AM
4-0 to Villa - and a James Collins clearance to take Dave Whelan's head off in injury time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on September 30, 2011, 06:12:12 AM
I predicted 4pts from QPR and Wigan, so its got to be a Villa win...and about fcukin time!

AMs commented after last weeks game that a lot of players are underperforming and need to step up to the mark...I couldnt agree more and this weekend is the time to do it. Hopefully he's rammed that message down their throats, got them working harder in training and make them perform in front of the home crowd. Losing isnt an option but AM needs to stop thinking draws are.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on September 30, 2011, 09:56:54 AM
4-1 Villa, bring em on....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2011, 10:54:25 AM
I see N'Zog has been commenting that he'd be better playing on the right and that he's struggling with our directness. I do agree we need to play more of a passing game to get the best out of the players availaible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on September 30, 2011, 11:13:42 AM
A passing game is fine if you have the players capable of doing it consistently. How many times have we seen attacking moves break down already this season due to misplaced passes...it was particularly bad against QPR and Bolton. For a brief spell in the 2nd half against QPR they showed that they are capable of free flowing attacking football, just very frustrating that just 10 minutes later they can look so poor all over the park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Blackcountry Villa on September 30, 2011, 11:30:48 AM
Must win with a lamping at Man City to come. Will probably draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on September 30, 2011, 11:32:22 AM
Problem is we have no consistantcy, he will bring heskey back and we will go back to just hoofing it up to him. it doesn't work, we need to let Ireland build on his second half performance and Bannan should keep his place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on September 30, 2011, 12:45:58 PM
Problem is we have no consistantcy, he will bring heskey back and we will go back to just hoofing it up to him. it doesn't work, we need to let Ireland build on his second half performance and Bannan should keep his place.

Have to agree with you

I think heskey when fit will always start because of his amazing ability to link up play
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 30, 2011, 12:50:02 PM
I don't see heskey starting tomorrow. I don't think he'll change the midfield but if he does I see Jenas as being more likely to come in than heskey, as heskey was only filling a gap AM hopes Jenas can fill.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on September 30, 2011, 12:51:27 PM
Problem is we have no consistantcy, he will bring heskey back and we will go back to just hoofing it up to him. it doesn't work, we need to let Ireland build on his second half performance and Bannan should keep his place.

Have to agree with you

I think heskey when fit will always start because of his amazing ability to link up play

That would make it a Heskey/Petrov/Jenas midfield then I guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on September 30, 2011, 01:07:06 PM
Gabby and Bannan wide of Bent, or will he persist with N'Zogbia?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 30, 2011, 01:11:40 PM
I reckon The Zog will start, I think leaving him out would be counter-productive for him getting into some kind of form.

If bent does start my guess it would be at the expense of ireland, with gabby going back out wide.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on September 30, 2011, 01:21:38 PM
I would like to see BB feature  centrally at the spearhead of a 3 man central midfield at least then he can call the shots use his passing ability, i feel he's wasted on the wing

gabby wide one side

Albrighton wide on the other


For me having Heskey in the team gives us no balance
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on September 30, 2011, 01:29:33 PM
Same team as last week but Jenas in for Delph for me but I suspect he'll also want to bring Bent back probably instead of Ireland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UsualSuspect on September 30, 2011, 01:31:48 PM
Has Jenas had any game time with the reserves?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on September 30, 2011, 02:10:11 PM
Just read this on the BBC match preview and felt very sad: "According to Opta, Villa were the only team to play more than 20% of their passes long in the Premier League last weekend." 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 30, 2011, 02:28:09 PM
Bent and Jenas in for Ireland and Delph, 2-0 to Villa, Bent and N'Zogbia.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on September 30, 2011, 02:36:15 PM
Given
Hutton Collins Dunne Warnock
Jenas Petrov
Gabby Bannan N'Zogbia
Bent

Subs Guzan Clark Cuellar Delph Ireland Albrighton Heskey

N'Zogbia is lucky to keep his place, but Albrighton is bang out of form too and bringing in Heskey, Delph or Ireland would mean pushing Bannan out wide and I'd rather see him in the middle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 30, 2011, 02:36:51 PM
Just read this on the BBC match preview and felt very sad: "According to Opta, Villa were the only team to play more than 20% of their passes long in the Premier League last weekend." 

'Hoof it up field' Collins and Dunnie  must have contributed massively to that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 30, 2011, 04:55:55 PM
Just read this on the BBC match preview and felt very sad: "According to Opta, Villa were the only team to play more than 20% of their passes long in the Premier League last weekend." 

'Hoof it up field' Collins and Dunnie  must have contributed massively to that.

ANd 99% of that was in the first 45 mins no doubt.   I saw a team FINALLY react and start to click in the second 45 mins. 

Anyway, this is a game that we will win and win big.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gazza1982 on September 30, 2011, 05:01:28 PM
3-0 good win, the feel good factor will return and we will be up to about 6th or 7th still unbeaten in the league.Shit attendance though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 30, 2011, 05:11:15 PM
An early goal,and i think we'll get a 3-0 win,if we go into the second half level,i reckon it'll be another tense draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 30, 2011, 05:13:41 PM
An early goal,and i think we'll get a 3-0 win,if we go into the second half level,i reckon it'll be another tense draw.

Yeah, an early goal always settles everything down.  I'm really looking forward to the game tomorrow.  It's one (of a handful per season)  I can actually get down to so bring it on.  Sunshine, beer and goals please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on September 30, 2011, 07:22:31 PM
I would put Gabby out wide left with Gabbs wide right and Bongo central leaving Agbonlahor up front.

10-0 C'mon you Villa boys lets rip a new vent for them...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on September 30, 2011, 09:09:27 PM
Have a good feeling about tomorrow, think we'll win and play well, and the gate will be pretty good too. Warm weather, cheap tickets will bring a few more out.

Up the mighty Villa!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on September 30, 2011, 09:10:37 PM
Have a good feeling about tomorrow, think we'll win and play well, and the gate will be pretty good too. Warm weather, cheap tickets will bring a few more out.

Up the mighty Villa!!


Big game, good result and we can really push on and hopefully be ready for Manc City
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on September 30, 2011, 09:17:37 PM
Be nice to show Martinez just what he missed out on too!!  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 30, 2011, 09:59:38 PM
Not that stats mean anything,


"OptaJoe: 31% - Aston Villa have the worst shooting accuracy in the Premier League hitting the target with just 31% of their shots. Wayward."
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on September 30, 2011, 10:13:45 PM
Be nice to show Martinez just what he missed out on too!!  :)
Run that one by me again!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on September 30, 2011, 11:03:20 PM
Can see it being another draw tomorrow 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on September 30, 2011, 11:04:56 PM
Over 30k gate ??
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DeKuip on September 30, 2011, 11:34:12 PM
Over 30k gate ??
What? Gate K is for over 30s? About time they looked after us 30 to 52 and a half year-olds with these special offers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2011, 08:07:19 AM
Lose 0-1. Many, many boos. And this place to melt down.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 01, 2011, 09:55:41 AM
0-2

Arguably the most un-industrious and porous central midfield in the history of top flight English football is no match for the might of Wigan's central midfield duo. This proves to be the undoing of Villa in this remarkably dire match. Charles N'Zogbia looks the most enthusiastic since he joined the club in the tunnel before the game meeting and greeting his former team mates, before giving the least enthusiastic Villa performance on the pitch since Carlton Cole, not actually getting above a gentle trot all afternoon. During the second half and at the final whistle, several thousand season tickets are flung in the direction of Alex McLeish, before the rest of the crowd gather at the ticket office after the match demanding a refund.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 01, 2011, 10:01:59 AM
I'm crap at making score predictions so i won't, but i reckon we'll finally see Bent score in front of the Holte.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frank on October 01, 2011, 10:03:47 AM
This will be the first home game I've missed for a long time, so I expect it'll be a thumping win. 3-0 Villa and an impressive debut by Jenas.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2011, 10:07:41 AM
Good insight from Lawro

"Aston Villa might not be playing particularly well yet this season but you can't argue with six matches unbeaten - and once you're on a run like that, the confidence starts flowing and the performances can improve.

The supporters seem to be accepting manager Alex McLeish following his arrival from city rivals Birmingham and they are really getting behind the team. So they should, too, after the start they've had."


Hmm...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on October 01, 2011, 10:30:11 AM
0-2

Arguably the most un-industrious and porous central midfield in the history of top flight English football is no match for the might of Wigan's central midfield duo. This proves to be the undoing of Villa in this remarkably dire match. Charles N'Zogbia looks the most enthusiastic since he joined the club in the tunnel before the game meeting and greeting his former team mates, before giving the least enthusiastic Villa performance on the pitch since Carlton Cole, not actually getting above a gentle trot all afternoon. During the second half and at the final whistle, several thousand season tickets are flung in the direction of Alex McLeish, before the rest of the crowd gather at the ticket office after the match demanding a refund.

Amazing positivity!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on October 01, 2011, 10:43:01 AM
0-2

Arguably the most un-industrious and porous central midfield in the history of top flight English football is no match for the might of Wigan's central midfield duo. This proves to be the undoing of Villa in this remarkably dire match. Charles N'Zogbia looks the most enthusiastic since he joined the club in the tunnel before the game meeting and greeting his former team mates, before giving the least enthusiastic Villa performance on the pitch since Carlton Cole, not actually getting above a gentle trot all afternoon. During the second half and at the final whistle, several thousand season tickets are flung in the direction of Alex McLeish, before the rest of the crowd gather at the ticket office after the match demanding a refund.

That's clearly what you want to happen but I think you're going to be disappointed.

I think the second half last week will have given them confidence and with players coming back from injury we have more options than recently. I've got a hunch this might be the fame where it all clicks into place.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 01, 2011, 10:48:54 AM
Clearly.

Fuck me, can someone inject a sense of humour into Chris Smith?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on October 01, 2011, 10:55:03 AM
Clearly.

Fuck me, can someone inject a sense of humour into Chris Smith?

Post something funny first.

The whole "we're so shit" line has been done to death, it's fucking boring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on October 01, 2011, 11:00:10 AM
Clearly.

Fuck me, can someone inject a sense of humour into Chris Smith?


Chris is great, but you have to accept he lives in a different world than the rest of us.
even the gypsies near him clear up after themselves,   and no i'm not making it up
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 01, 2011, 11:04:06 AM
Clearly.

Fuck me, can someone inject a sense of humour into Chris Smith?


Chris is great, but you have to accept he lives in a different world than the rest of us.
even the gypsies near him clear up after themselves,   and no i'm not making it up

Obviously.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 01, 2011, 11:19:01 AM
Really no point having an account and posting on these boards if you can't have a laugh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on October 01, 2011, 11:45:01 AM
Really no point having an account and posting on these boards if you can't have a laugh.

 Greg Nash has been doing that routine for years, it doesn't get any funnier.

I bet you laugh at John Bishop too
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on October 01, 2011, 11:49:36 AM
Clearly.

Fuck me, can someone inject a sense of humour into Chris Smith?


Chris is great, but you have to accept he lives in a different world than the rest of us.
even the gypsies near him clear up after themselves,   and no i'm not making it up

Say the man who thinks a big super pixie created the world in 6 days! ;-)

You should also learn the difference between Gypsies and Irish Travellers you daft racist.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 01, 2011, 11:55:55 AM
Really no point having an account and posting on these boards if you can't have a laugh.

 Greg Nash has been doing that routine for years, it doesn't get any funnier.

I bet you laugh at John Bishop too

I'm not sure who you are talking about, but on current form, i'd wager that you've never laughed at anything.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 01, 2011, 11:56:04 AM
The ones at Dale Farm aren't doing much travelling.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on October 01, 2011, 11:56:28 AM
I had a dream on Thursday night we lost this match 2-0.

However, the match did take place in a stadium akin to a very small Highbury and Heskey took most of the stick for Villa losing.

So, in conclusion, dreams mean nothing. There is no such stadium and Heskey won't be taking any stick - though this is mainly due to him not playing. Actually, this probably won't stop some people.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: nick harper on October 01, 2011, 12:02:06 PM
According to OPTA stats, we were the only team in the league to play more than 20% of passes long - whatever the definition of long is. Great !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 01, 2011, 12:03:45 PM
We had better bloody win today. Not enough points so far considering who we have played.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on October 01, 2011, 12:08:18 PM
According to OPTA stats, we were the only team in the league to play more than 20% of passes long - whatever the definition of long is. Great !
Thats because we always pass the ball back to James Collins, who then punts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 01, 2011, 12:13:58 PM
You should also learn the difference between Gypsies and Irish Travellers you daft racist.

And when he does, he can explain it to the Irish Travellers as they also refer to themselves as 'gypsies'.

Back on topic, N'Zogbia says his poor form is because he's been played on the left rather than the right. Maybe his poor form is down to him putting his boots on the wrong feet as he obviously doesn't know his left from right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 01, 2011, 12:16:37 PM
Time to head off to the game, come on you Villa boys!!!

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 01, 2011, 12:20:40 PM
Just came back from a walk and it's hot really hot out there. Going to be a tough afternoon but we must win. No ifs buts or may be's.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 01, 2011, 12:26:34 PM
Just came back from a walk and it's hot really hot out there. Going to be a tough afternoon but we must win. No ifs buts or may be's.

Yep, especially if we attempt to play kick-and-rush today. The defenders have to support the goalkeeper on the ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on October 01, 2011, 01:11:02 PM
Good insight from Lawro

"Aston Villa might not be playing particularly well yet this season but you can't argue with six matches unbeaten - and once you're on a run like that, the confidence starts flowing and the performances can improve.

The supporters seem to be accepting manager Alex McLeish following his arrival from city rivals Birmingham and they are really getting behind the team. So they should, too, after the start they've had."


Hmm...

Do our players really look that confident? I think a lack of confidence seems to be behind some of the problem with a lot of our players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 01, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
Good insight from Lawro

"Aston Villa might not be playing particularly well yet this season but you can't argue with six matches unbeaten - and once you're on a run like that, the confidence starts flowing and the performances can improve.

The supporters seem to be accepting manager Alex McLeish following his arrival from city rivals Birmingham and they are really getting behind the team. So they should, too, after the start they've had."


Hmm...

Do our players really look that confident? I think a lack of confidence seems to be behind some of the problem with a lot of our players.

That and the assumption that the only reason for scepticism about Eck being the Blues connection have conspired to make those couple of sentences annoying even by Lawro's standards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on October 01, 2011, 02:26:52 PM
Given, Hutton, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Bannan, Petrov, Delph, Ireland, Agbonlahor, Bent

Subs: N’Zogbia, Guzan, Clark, Herd, Albrighton, Weimann, Heskey

No arguments from me, N'Zogbia has been very poor, unfortunately. I'm pretty pleased with that line-up. Very attack-minded with Ireland and Bannan starting, and based on the second half against QPR I'd say it's worth a shot.

Hope it pays off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on October 01, 2011, 02:50:14 PM
1-0 home win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wigan Athletic Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on October 02, 2011, 09:26:06 AM
0-2

Arguably the most un-industrious and porous central midfield in the history of top flight English football is no match for the might of Wigan's central midfield duo. This proves to be the undoing of Villa in this remarkably dire match. Charles N'Zogbia looks the most enthusiastic since he joined the club in the tunnel before the game meeting and greeting his former team mates, before giving the least enthusiastic Villa performance on the pitch since Carlton Cole, not actually getting above a gentle trot all afternoon. During the second half and at the final whistle, several thousand season tickets are flung in the direction of Alex McLeish, before the rest of the crowd gather at the ticket office after the match demanding a refund.

You were saying.
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