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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: CJ on November 28, 2010, 09:48:47 AM
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The draw for the third round of the FA Cup is live on ITV at 6:00 today. What's the chances of us drawing one of the Heaths (Newton or Small) or maybe yet another cup game against Blackeye Rovers? A nice easy home game against one of the minnows would do for me to kick start the second half of our season.
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What's the chances of us drawing one of the Heaths (Newton or Small) or maybe yet another cup game against Blackeye Rovers?
One for the statisticians. 1 in 64?
Who do I want? As always: (1) a home draw; (b) a team we should beat.
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1 in 63 actually as we can't draw ourselves.
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FA cup?
Is it our year for it?
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Man Utd away
We've got away with it for so long.
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I don't care about it this season i don't think we have the squad to compete in the league and the cup.
Next year will be the one :)
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A non premier league team.
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Any lower league team at home.
Preferably non-league.
We might stand a chance then.
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Had a fairly decent trot of it last year.
So either of the Manchester clubs or Chelsea away it is this year.
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Who cares? We are hardly likely to win it - we are after all, Aston Villa ;)
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It's going to be Birmingham City Away
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A prem team at home . I dont think my heart can handle a banana skin game ..
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Barnsley away.
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It will Blackburn or Manure..
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Barnsley away.
I've been to Barnsley on boxing day before (not with the Villa) - its like going to Siberia, only colder.
FC United at home would be nice.
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It will Blackburn or Manure..
Or Stoke away, that would be horrible.
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FC united away.
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1 in 63 actually as we can't draw ourselves.
1 in 63 only if we are first or second out of the hat. After that it is on a increasing scale from 1 in 61 to 1 in 1.
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1 in 63 actually as we can't draw ourselves.
We'd probably manage to lose if we did
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FC united away.
We wouldn't get many tickets for that.
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I hope it's a home draw against somebody we can beat.
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I would take a home game against a team not in the premier league.
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It will be Man U at Villa Park... We haven't drawn them in the last two years which means we are more than due.
Ideally someone shit but it won't be.
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1 in 63 actually as we can't draw ourselves.
We'd probably manage to lose if we did
The game would have to be called off due to us not actually having 22 fit human beings to put onto the pitch. We barely have 11.
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FC united away.
We wouldn't get many tickets for that.
They play at Bury's Gigg Lane, capacity 11,000, so it could be worse.
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Carlise. Teach those knobs a lesson for knocking out Tamworth...
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Are Charlton still in it? I'd quite like to go to a ground I can walk too.
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Are Charlton still in it? I'd quite like to go to a ground I can walk too.
Yes. Drew 2-2 with Luton have a replay at Kenilworth Road.
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I don't want any Premier League team away or any of the following at home... Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man U, Stoke, Spurs, Wigan. Also don't want Leicester home or away or any of the following away... QPR, Palace, Leeds, Millwall, Burnley, Sheff Utd.
By my reckoning that means there is a 72.2% chance of us getting a draw I will be satisfied with.
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Fulham away for me
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I don't want any Premier League team away or any of the following at home... Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man U, Stoke, Spurs, Wigan. Also don't want Leicester home or away or any of the following away... QPR, Palace, Leeds, Millwall, Burnley, Sheff Utd.
By my reckoning that means there is a 72.2% chance of us getting a draw I will be satisfied with.
There's a 90% chance that that statistic is 50% wrong
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I don't get the defeatist lot. We could get a favourable draw which wouldn't be played until January. Then we could go through and get another good draw. By then we could have a fully fit squad with some decent January buys.
Alternatively, we could be drawn away to Man Utd or Chelsea and that will be that.
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FC United of Manchester/Brighton & Hove Albion at home please.
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Third-round draw numbers:
1 ARSENAL
2 ASTON VILLA
3 BARNSLEY
4 BIRMINGHAM CITY
5 BLACKBURN ROVERS
6 BLACKPOOL
7 BOLTON WANDERERS
8 BRISTOL CITY
9 BURNLEY
10 CARDIFF CITY
11 CHELSEA
12 COVENTRY CITY
13 CRYSTAL PALACE
14 DERBY COUNTY
15 DONCASTER ROVERS
16 EVERTON
17 FULHAM
18 HULL CITY
19 IPSWICH TOWN
20 LEEDS UNITED
21 LEICESTER CITY
22 LIVERPOOL
23 MANCHESTER CITY
24 MANCHESTER UNITED
25 MIDDLESBROUGH
26 MILLWALL
27 NEWCASTLE UNITED
28 NORWICH CITY
29 NOTTINGHAM FOREST
30 PORTSMOUTH
31 PRESTON NORTH END
32 QUEENS PARK RANGERS
33 READING
34 SCUNTHORPE UNITED
35 SHEFFIELD UNITED
36 STOKE CITY
37 SUNDERLAND
38 SWANSEA CITY
39 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR
40 WATFORD
41 WEST BROMWICH ALBION
42 WEST HAM UNITED
43 WIGAN ATHLETIC
44 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS
45 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY
46 BURTON ALBION
47 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN
48 STEVENAGE
49 HARTLEPOOL UNITED OR YEOVIL TOWN
50 PETERBOROUGH UNITED
51 NOTTS COUNTY OR AFC BOURNEMOUTH
52 DROYLSDEN OR LEYTON ORIENT
53 CRAWLEY TOWN OR SWINDON TOWN
54 BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION OR FC UNITED OF MANCHESTER
55 SOUTHAMPTON
56 TORQUAY UNITED
57 CHARLTON ATHLETIC OR LUTON TOWN
58 COLCHESTER UNITED
59 HEREFORD UNITED OR LINCOLN CITY
60 PORT VALE
61 WYCOMBE WANDERERS
62 CARLISLE UNITED
63 DOVER ATHLETIC
64 YORK CITY
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I'm expecting to hear "Number 2... Aston Villa, will play... number 24 Manchester United."
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I don't want any Premier League team away or any of the following at home... Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man U, Stoke, Spurs, Wigan. Also don't want Leicester home or away or any of the following away... QPR, Palace, Leeds, Millwall, Burnley, Sheff Utd.
By my reckoning that means there is a 72.2% chance of us getting a draw I will be satisfied with.
There's a 90% chance that that statistic is 50% wrong
So long as we give 110% we'll win any way.
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I'm going to predict we'll get Smevick Bromitch Ollbeyun away.
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I'm expecting to hear "Number 2... Aston Villa, will play... number 24 Manchester United."
I'm expecting it to be the other way round.
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Anyone but sodding Blackburn.
And I thought the 2nd round was traditionally played on the first weekend of December...everything is put back feckin earlier every year...grumble.
By the way aren't those 'ard lads Noel Gallagher and whatever the lead singer from Kasabian is called, doing the draw? Man City v Leicester it is then.
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Carlise. Teach those knobs a lesson for knocking out Tamworth...
Dave Cooper likes this.
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Here we go. Let's hope there isn't too much waffle before the draw actually begins.
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Bloody hell Serge could at least have dressed better.
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Oh my word, this is embarrassing. Get on with the wretched draw.
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and we're off.
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I've got bloody waybuloo on to keep the littlun quiet!
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are them two hammered or something?
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Burnley v Port Vale
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Keep going, Jk, keep going!
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Sheffield Utd Away
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Sheffield United v Villa
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Away to Sheffield Utd
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Sheffield Utd away, tough.
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Sheffield Utd v Aston Villa
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Sheff Utd away! Bugger
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Oh dear, Blades away
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Sheffield united away
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BOLLOCKS!!
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Bollocks!
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The Blades are crap at the moment.
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I take it we're away to Sheffield Utd then?
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Anyone but sodding Blackburn.
And I thought the 2nd round was traditionally played on the first weekend of December...everything is put back feckin earlier every year...grumble.
By the way aren't those 'ard lads Noel Gallagher and whatever the lead singer from Kasabian is called, doing the draw? Man City v Leicester it is then.
You psychic or something? You got it the wrong way round mind!
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They're shite this season. Nice trip oop north...just let's not have a repeat of '04 (or '05?).
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Tough, but it could have been a lot lot worse
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Milwall v Blose
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Anyone but sodding Blackburn.
And I thought the 2nd round was traditionally played on the first weekend of December...everything is put back feckin earlier every year...grumble.
By the way aren't those 'ard lads Noel Gallagher and whatever the lead singer from Kasabian is called, doing the draw? Man City v Leicester it is then.
You psychic or something? You got it the wrong way round mind!
Haha...serious? Noel supports Citeh, I think the other geezer is from Leicester. What's their reaction?
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Millwall v Bloose. All police leave cancelled!
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Away to a gritty champiuonship team. It's about as tough as it get's.
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Millwall vs Small Heath...that ll cheer the Police up no end!!!
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Sheff Utd are 20th in Championship - surely we should be happy with that?
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Anyone but sodding Blackburn.
And I thought the 2nd round was traditionally played on the first weekend of December...everything is put back feckin earlier every year...grumble.
By the way aren't those 'ard lads Noel Gallagher and whatever the lead singer from Kasabian is called, doing the draw? Man City v Leicester it is then.
You psychic or something? You got it the wrong way round mind!
Haha...serious? Noel supports Citeh, I think the other geezer is from Leicester. What's their reaction?
Disbelief followed by rock hug
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Manchester United v Liverpool
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Man Utd vs Liverpool
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Manure v Liverpool!
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Hasn't been a very good day for the Scousers today, has it?
Great beer and pubs in Sheffield. Tough but we have enough to beat them.
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Could have been a lot worse. Sheff Utd aren't as potent as when Warnock was in charge. We should get a decent ticket allocation and should be a good game which we'll win.
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Stoke cardiff will be a bit tasty too.
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They're shite this season. Nice trip oop north...just let's not have a repeat of '04 (or '05?).
Whereas we are on the crest of a slump. :(
We will win that. Atmosphere will be great - worth a trip.
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Thats a good draw, they are poor this year and we'll get a decent allocation, the pubs in Sheffield are pretty good as well.
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Carlise. Teach those knobs a lesson for knocking out Tamworth...
I think Carlisle's "reward" of a trip to Torquay is better punishment.
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I'm a long way away: can anyone post the interesting games of the draw?
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I think we can all agree which game will be televised.
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I'm a long way away: can anyone post the interesting games of the draw?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9235273.stm
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Torquay v Carlisle
Norwich v Droylsden/Leyton Orient
Preston v Nottingham Forest
Tottenham v Charlton/Luton
Stoke v Cardiff
Hull v Wigan
Man United v Liverpool
Scunthorpe v Everton
Sunderland v Notts County/Bournemouth
Chelsea v Ipswich
Watford v Hartlepool/Yeovil
Southampton v Blackpool
Millwall v Birmingham
Burton v Middlesbrough
Stevenage v Newcastle
Wycombe v Hereford/Lincoln
Swansea v Colchester
Blackburn v QPR
Bolton v York
Leicester v Man City
Sheff Utd v Aston Villa
Arsenal v Leeds
Reading v West Brom
West Ham v Barnsley
Crawley/Swindon v Derby
Huddersfield v Dover
Brighton/FC United of Manchester v Portsmouth
Doncaster v Wolves
Fulham v Peterborough
Bristol City v Sheff Wed
Coventry v Crystal Palace
Burnley v Port Vale
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http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/FACompetitions/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/2010/third-round-draw
There you Simba
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I think we can all agree which game will be televised.
There will be 3 or 4 games televised surely? Sat/Sun/Mon.
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Anyone planning to stay over, there are rooms available for £50 at the copthorne hotel next to the stadium.
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Stoke v Cardiff
Man United v Liverpool
Millwall v Birmingham
Bolton v York
Sheff Utd v Aston Villa
Arsenal v Leeds
Crawley/Swindon v Derby
Brighton/FC United of Manchester v Portsmouth
Huddersfield v Dover
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I think we can all agree which game will be televised.
There will be 3 or 4 games televised surely? Sat/Sun/Mon.
*crude alert*
A television executive somewhere is cracking one off right now.
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I think we can all agree which game will be televised.
Sky, with a typical lack of imagination, will indeed televise the Manc-Scouse Hate-fest to the hoards of armchair fans of both clubs who couldn't point to either city on a map of the County Palatine of Lancaster.
The two I'd like to see televised would be Stevenage-Newcastle and Spurs-Luton (should they win their replay).
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I think we can all agree which game will be televised.
Sky, with a typical lack of imagination, will indeed televise the Manc-Scouse Hate-fest to the hoards of armchair fans of both clubs who couldn't point to either city on a map of the County Palatine of Lancaster.
The two I'd like to see televised would be Stevenage-Newcastle and Spurs-Luton (should they win their replay).
ITV and ESPN have the FA Cup live games this year (See http://www.live-footballontv.com/football-tv-rights-uk.html) but doubtless they'll have that as their main game with a sprinkling of lesser (hopefully involving non-league) ties to show that they're really really really fair and not at all biased honest guv.
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Millwall v Bloose. All police leave cancelled!
A nose I know drove down to the play off decider there when there was a bit of trouble outside, the coppers wouldn't let him get his car as they couldn't guarantee his safety, they put him on the train and he had to go back the next day to get it.
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Torquay v Carlisle
Norwich v Droylsden/Leyton Orient
Watford v Hartlepool/Yeovil
Burton v Middlesbrough
Wycombe v Hereford/Lincoln
Crawley/Swindon v Derby
Huddersfield v Dover
Brighton/FC United of Manchester v Portsmouth
These not so lucrative draws are a no reward for the hard work smaller teams have put in to get this far. I think the FA Cup 3rd round, and only this round, should be seeded.
The 64 teams should be ranked 1 to 64 in order based on the League position at the end of previous season and 1 should play 64 with 2 playing 63 and so on. Coin toss should decide home or away to be sorted between Clubs.
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http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/FACompetitions/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/2010/third-round-draw
There you Simba
I owe you one. Ta.
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That's one of the worst ideas I have heard aftab
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Torquay v Carlisle
Norwich v Droylsden/Leyton Orient
Watford v Hartlepool/Yeovil
Burton v Middlesbrough
Wycombe v Hereford/Lincoln
Crawley/Swindon v Derby
Huddersfield v Dover
Brighton/FC United of Manchester v Portsmouth
These not so lucrative draws are a no reward for the hard work smaller teams have put in to get this far. I think the FA Cup 3rd round, and only this round, should be seeded.
The 64 teams should be ranked 1 to 64 in order based on the League position at the end of previous season and 1 should play 64 with 2 playing 63 and so on. Coin toss should decide home or away to be sorted between Clubs.
So based on that idea FC United (if they get through) would have to play Chelsea - what's fair about that for their hard work to date? Guaranteed to get knocked out in a competition biased in favour of the PL teams. They could get a less challenging tie and maybe get through to the next round. Or is it all just about money not the 'magic' of the third round anymore?
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Torquay v Carlisle
Norwich v Droylsden/Leyton Orient
Watford v Hartlepool/Yeovil
Burton v Middlesbrough
Wycombe v Hereford/Lincoln
Crawley/Swindon v Derby
Huddersfield v Dover
Brighton/FC United of Manchester v Portsmouth
These not so lucrative draws are a no reward for the hard work smaller teams have put in to get this far. I think the FA Cup 3rd round, and only this round, should be seeded.
The 64 teams should be ranked 1 to 64 in order based on the League position at the end of previous season and 1 should play 64 with 2 playing 63 and so on. Coin toss should decide home or away to be sorted between Clubs.
Never. Seeding for the FA Cup?. I cannot believe you would ever consider it. Have you no sense of history or a memory of the upsets. Can you understand the dreams fulfilled of players, I dunno, who played their hearts out for Hereford. Wimbledon. For example.
This is the FA Cup - you can't change it. It is truly the one Cup that gives the little guys a chance. A very English competition. Money?Oh come one. It means nothing.
No, please leave this alone. It works.
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Think about it? Have a look at the faces of Dover players when they heard they are away at Huddersfield or the jubilation and the supreme effort at their replay if FC United players already knew they will be playing Chelsea next instead of Portsmouth. It is not about money it's about fullfilling dreams and if you kave already played 4 or 5 rounds and you end up playing Carlisle when you could have played Aston Villa must be heart wrenching.
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Not the best draw but not the worst either, bit Meh
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Think about it? Have a look at the faces of Dover players when they heard they are away at Huddersfield or the jubilation and the supreme effort at their replay if FC United players already knew they will be playing Chelsea next instead of Portsmouth. It is not about money it's about fullfilling dreams and if you kave already played 4 or 5 rounds and you end up playing Carlisle when you could have played Aston Villa must be heart wrenching.
I appreciate your reasoning but to have the FA Cup biased in such a way in favour of the PL teams would be the end of football for me
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And year after year after year of mouthwatering finals between Man U and Chelsea.
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Whoever suggests seeding, dose'nt really understand the F.A Cup at all.
As for our draw, it'll be tough, it was last time we played there.
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Urgh, Sheffield Utd, another team I dislike. I still can't believe we lost to them in the 3rd round 5 years ago... they're not a very good team these days though - we're crap away from home so it would of been nice to have a home tie.
Millwall vs blose - that's a dream for both sets of the nicest fans you'll ever meet.
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...I don''t think we have the squad to compete in the league and the cup.
Pity MON didn't share that view last season when he gambled and "lost" on all three fronts.
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And year after year after year of mouthwatering finals between Man U and Chelsea.
I think you'll find Pompey got to the final last year.
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And year after year after year of mouthwatering finals between Man U and Chelsea.
I think you'll find Pompey got to the final last year.
He's talking about what would happen were the FA Cup to be seeded.
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CJ - Me too. Too much bias because of television etc already. Give Tamworth a chance I say.
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Seeding would be the final death knell for a once great competition.
Dover disappointed that their reward is a trip to Huddersfield when Manchester United and Liverpool already face each other at least twice a season? Tough. It's the luck of the draw.
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To truly make it a fair knock-out competition, the PL sides should be brought in at the 1st round - there'd be even more upsets then. Giving the PL sides a bye until the third round makes it far too easy for them.
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Whoever suggests seeding, dose'nt really understand the F.A Cup at all.
As for our draw, it'll be tough, it was last time we played there.
Oh I do. The FA Cup for me ranks the highest. All my life I have waited for us to win it. When we won the League in 81 I still thought not winning the FA Cup that season was a failure. Not making an effort in the 2000 final made me mad and don't mention the semi last season. I am still replaying the match in my head on how we could have won it.
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And year after year after year of mouthwatering finals between Man U and Chelsea.
I think you'll find Pompey got to the final last year.
He's talking about what would happen were the FA Cup to be seeded.
But would'nt Pompey have beeen seeded being a Premiership club at the time? Anyway, it's still a terrible idea.
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Torquay v Carlisle
Norwich v Droylsden/Leyton Orient
Watford v Hartlepool/Yeovil
Burton v Middlesbrough
Wycombe v Hereford/Lincoln
Crawley/Swindon v Derby
Huddersfield v Dover
Brighton/FC United of Manchester v Portsmouth
These not so lucrative draws are a no reward for the hard work smaller teams have put in to get this far. I think the FA Cup 3rd round, and only this round, should be seeded.
The 64 teams should be ranked 1 to 64 in order based on the League position at the end of previous season and 1 should play 64 with 2 playing 63 and so on. Coin toss should decide home or away to be sorted between Clubs.
Nah, cant agree with that. The whole excitement of the FA Cup lays in the fact that when teams are pulled from the hat, you dont know what opposition they're or you are gonna get. The competition would lose some appeal once seeding is intorduced. Looks whats happened to Competitions like the Euro Cup/ CL and the WC since seeding was introduced. Some of that thrill of the draw has gone.
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Seeding ?? I didnt like having to look at that objectionable mancunian twat gallagher doing the draw either, but even that couldnt make me favour changing 138 years of tradition.
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Another thing against seeding - given that the 20 PL teams would play 20 of the ones who got through rounds 1 & 2 - the Championship teams would more or less just play one another!
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Also, how do you factor in replays? Say for example a plucky non-league side gains a creditable draw against Man U in the 3rd round and this has happened twice in recent years, how will the seeding work then?
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Just had a Baggies fan text me: 'Can I lend your Sandwell library card so I can get tickets for Reading?'
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Good draw. Why shouldn't we get through against Sheffield Utd? They'll give us a game, but I'm confident of a victory at Brammel Lane.
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Is it me, or do Chavski get a really easy home draw every single fekin year.
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Seeding would be a great idea. We should introduce that in the same season we play game 39 (with our luck Chelsea or Man U) in Jakarta.
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Is it me, or do Chavski get a really easy home draw every single fekin year.
2011 - Ipswich (h)
2010 - Watford (h)
2009 - Southend (h)
2008 - QPR (h)
2007 - Macclesfield (h)
2006 - Huddersfield (h)
2005 - Scunthorpe (h)
2004 - last time they were away, to Watford.
So no, it's not just you. They are jammy bastards.
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Sod seeding, I'd go the other way entirely, put all clubs in the same hat from the first qualifying round!
Lye Town v Chelsea
Pilkington XXX v Manchester United
Villa to get a tricky tie away at Blackpool Wren Rovers.
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
Being the pedantic bastard that I am can I just point out that Clements '83 cannot enter the FA Cup as they don't have floodlights.
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
Being the pedantic bastard that I am can I just point out that Clements '83 cannot enter the FA Cup as they don't have floodlights.
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
Surely that means the game will be moved to Stamford Bridge, meaning that Chavski will get another easy home draw.
Being the pedantic bastard that I am can I just point out that Clements '83 cannot enter the FA Cup as they don't have floodlights.
Quote fail.
No, they literally are not allowed to enter the FA Cup, you must have floodlights to enter.
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
Being the pedantic bastard that I am can I just point out that Clements '83 cannot enter the FA Cup as they don't have floodlights.
Have you not heard?
They have agreed to share Blues' new 90,000-capacity Porno Bowl, opening Summer 2327.
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
Surely that means the game will be moved to Stamford Bridge, meaning that Chavski will get another easy home draw.
Being the pedantic bastard that I am can I just point out that Clements '83 cannot enter the FA Cup as they don't have floodlights.
Quote fail.
No, they literally are not allowed to enter the FA Cup, you must have floodlights to enter.
Must have floodlights...well there is a blatant case of undermining 138 years of tradition!
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
Surely that means the game will be moved to Stamford Bridge, meaning that Chavski will get another easy home draw.
Being the pedantic bastard that I am can I just point out that Clements '83 cannot enter the FA Cup as they don't have floodlights.
Quote fail.
No, they literally are not allowed to enter the FA Cup, you must have floodlights to enter.
Quote fail indeed. Spent 10 mins trying to rectify it including 4 mins downtime and then you point it out.....Anyway, lets say they were lucky losers in their league and suddenly got thrown into the competition in a Manny Omininye type way, then the FA suddenly realise at the third round stage they have no floodlights, Chelsea would get a bye.
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Also, how do you factor in replays? Say for example a plucky non-league side gains a creditable draw against Man U in the 3rd round and this has happened twice in recent years, how will the seeding work then?
As I said after the draw, that is pre-determined in any case, the two teams will toss a coin for home advantage and therefore reply if required will be at the away teams ground.
I think after the initial reaction you are all thinking about this and realise that the idea has legs!!
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Also, how do you factor in replays? Say for example a plucky non-league side gains a creditable draw against Man U in the 3rd round and this has happened twice in recent years, how will the seeding work then?
As I said after the draw, that is pre-determined in any case, the two teams will toss a coin for home advantage and therefore reply if required will be at the away teams ground.
I think after the initial reaction you are all thinking about this and realise that the idea has legs!!
sorry mate, but I think the idea is horrendous. The beauty of the cup draw is its unpredictability. That it can draw and has drawn many great ties where the unexpected becomes reality. The bigs teams don't need any more help than they already get, and if it means Liverpool vs Man U in the 3rd round, then the competition is all the better for it.
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Yes big humdingers like Manu v lpool is great but I am not thinking about big team and making it easier for them. I feel sorry for non leaguers who make it to the 3rd round and end up getting knocked out by 3rd and 4th division teams. For them a gauranteed match against top PL teams would be fantastic.
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So if are midtable in the Conference with a few games to go with no chance of the play-offs or relegation you'd be better to play to lose so you finish as low as possible. That way you might end up with someone like Liverpool or Villa away while a team that finished above you would have to put up with Wigan away.
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You could guarantee that within a couple of years you'd have a situation like in the League Cup where the novelty wears off for the lower divisions/non-league clubs because they get a 'big' draw every time they get that far and the seeded clubs start putting weakened sides out.
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Seeding, thats why the chumps league is so shit...
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i think the best way to get the spark back into the domestic trophies is to only let the team who won the premier league and the runners up into the champions league and then the teams who win the league and fa cups have the remaining 2 places, it will rid us of the sky four and teams will not put half strength teams out and will want to win the trophies, if the same team wins the league and a trophy then the runner up will get the space! this is the best way forward.
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i think the best way to get the spark back into the domestic trophies is to only let the team who won the premier league and the runners up into the champions league and then the teams who win the league and fa cups have the remaining 2 places, it will rid us of the sky four and teams will not put half strength teams out and will want to win the trophies, if the same team wins the league and a trophy then the runner up will get the space! this is the best way forward.
Sensible ideas like that will get you nowhere
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If I was a lower league team, I'd prefer to get into the 4th Round against similar opposition, then the 5th round against similar opposition etc...
As for our draw, we should win as long as Sheff Utd don't field Sean Bean.
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We should beat Sheff utd they are not doing that well at the moment let's hope we get a few of our injured players back by then.
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"Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson thinks it is "sad" for the game that his team have drawn Manchester United in the third round of the FA Cup because of the calibre of the two clubs." Hahahaha. Difficult to sympathise, when Villa have drawn ManUre so often in the FA Cup.
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As for our draw, we should win as long as Sheff Utd don't field Sean Bean.
Striding round the pitch in the green jacket of the 93rd Rifles, brandishing his superbly accurate Baker rifle and bellowing `Chosen Men!'
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Chelsea will play... Clements 83.
Aston Villa will play... Manchester United.
Surely that means the game will be moved to Stamford Bridge, meaning that Chavski will get another easy home draw.
Being the pedantic bastard that I am can I just point out that Clements '83 cannot enter the FA Cup as they don't have floodlights.
Quote fail.
No, they literally are not allowed to enter the FA Cup, you must have floodlights to enter.
And a stand.
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As for our draw, we should win as long as Sheff Utd don't field Sean Bean.
Striding round the pitch in the green jacket of the 93rd Rifles, brandishing his superbly accurate Baker rifle and bellowing `Chosen Men!'
By 'eck Pat, I'd raight like t' see that. Though I wouldn't be able to take my buxom posh totty girlfiend who I generally mistreat anywhere near the match.
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Excellent! The only game I can walk to. I predicted this when I started seeing my new girlfriend (who is a Sheff Utd fan), so it's my fault.
Must attend this one!
They are really crap this season so far, we should win, which spells trouble............
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As for our draw, we should win as long as Sheff Utd don't field Sean Bean.
Striding round the pitch in the green jacket of the 93rd Rifles, brandishing his superbly accurate Baker rifle and bellowing `Chosen Men!'
By 'eck Pat, I'd raight like t' see that.
I'd like to see Sharpe and Harper face the fact that they are passionately in love. It's pretty obvious to me
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I wonder if we will get to have a snowball fight this time.
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"Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson thinks it is "sad" for the game that his team have drawn Manchester United in the third round of the FA Cup because of the calibre of the two clubs." Hahahaha. Difficult to sympathise, when Villa have drawn ManUre so often in the FA Cup.
I have normally got a lot of time for Hodgson but that comment is a load of bollocks. The beauty of the FA Cup, and the reason it's famous the world over, is because exactly this sort of situation can arise. No seedings once you're in the hat - it's all fair game.
He should concentrate on working out how not to take an absolute pasting by them.
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i think the best way to get the spark back into the domestic trophies is to only let the team who won the premier league and the runners up into the champions league and then the teams who win the league and fa cups have the remaining 2 places, it will rid us of the sky four and teams will not put half strength teams out and will want to win the trophies, if the same team wins the league and a trophy then the runner up will get the space! this is the best way forward.
Sensible ideas like that will get you nowhere
yeah....the crazy fool... ;D
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Can't see Millwall v the shit being too much of an issue for the Police. I'll be surprised if there's more than 5 - 600 Blues there, given their shit away support ( by their own admission) of late.
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Excellent! The only game I can walk to. I predicted this when I started seeing my new girlfriend (who is a Sheff Utd fan), so it's my fault.
Must attend this one!
They are really crap this season so far, we should win, which spells trouble............
fancy a pint in the Porters Cottage after? should be a safe enough distance from Bramall Lane.
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Not a bad draw that, it could have been a lot worse!
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Excellent! The only game I can walk to. I predicted this when I started seeing my new girlfriend (who is a Sheff Utd fan), so it's my fault.
Must attend this one!
They are really crap this season so far, we should win, which spells trouble............
fancy a pint in the Porters Cottage after? should be a safe enough distance from Bramall Lane.
Sounds like a plan; I did think I'd be joining her for a pint but it seems I'm 'the enemy' for the day/week/month.
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I went up there the last time we had them in the cup in Jan 2005. The performance was summed up perfectly when I saw Alan Wright win a header against Carlton Cole. Piss Poor.
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I went up there the last time we had them in the cup in Jan 2005. The performance was summed up perfectly when I saw Alan Wright win a header against Carlton Cole. Piss Poor.
I remember watching it on the telly. I remember thinking, right, we were crap that first half, but we've got away with it, it was still 0-0, we've taken an early lead in the 2nd half, now let's bring it home...
...did we f**k...:-(...
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Yes the draw away to Huddersfield is hardly a plum tie for Dover. But, it is a chance to play at a much bigger ground (The McAlpine is smart) than they usually visit and there's some chance of at least taking it to a replay....them's the breaks. Far better it remains a random draw than it be seeded. The unpredictable nature of the draw plus the entry of the big boys into the fray is one of the highlights of the season (although ITV did their best to ruin it this year...). Those who govern football have already done as much as they can to extract unpredictability from football; to seed the draw would be to aid that unfortunate movement...
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Bramall Lane. Dwight Yorke penalty. A fine Sunday out.
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How that game was ever played I don't know. I remember the amount of snow they had up there and how cold it was.
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Bramall Lane. Dwight Yorke penalty. A fine Sunday out.
Savo's dive was beautiful.
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The most amazing thing about the cup draw was learning a member of Kasabian was capable of recognising numbers. What a monosyllbic moron, it was car crash tv watching him being 'interviewed'.