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Title: Ever been to a non villa game at small heath?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2010, 03:06:33 PM
I need to get this off my chest,ive carried it with me too long.One afternoon a few years back,someone phoned me up saying they had a free spare ticket for a small heath v westham league cup match that night,in a moment of weakness i said yes ill take it.All i remember was a young joe cole came on and turned the game round for westham to win.
Now ive been there other times for villa games which is fine,although i guess theres some fans who regularly go to away games that would never go there on principle.
If people want to condemn me I will take it on the chin,i know i did wrong but i cant undo the past.Ive carried this dirty little secret with me for too long.
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Post by: Chris Smith on April 20, 2010, 03:16:27 PM
Loads of times but not since I was about 15.

I've got a couple of uncles who are Noses so we went with them from time to time and even went with my mates when I had nothing else to do. I got evicted once for looking like a hooligan when Coventry scored against them.
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Post by: Nelly on April 20, 2010, 03:24:07 PM
Ugh. Sadly yes.

A mate of mine got let down on the day of their game with Preston last season, so she was begging me to go as no one else would.

Some old bloke next to me kept trying to talk to me about the game and I didn't have a clue who anyone was!!

What was funny was that everyone around us had planned to invade the pitch should they win (they'd get promoted apparently). Preston won 2-0 (I think) with two excellent goals right in front of me. I really had to bite my tongue! I couldn't shake the feeling that everyone knew I was Villa though. I wouldn't do it again.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 20, 2010, 03:28:18 PM
I went to SHA v Wigan this year as my bluenose mate's Dad couldn't make it. I was already up town and thought 'free ticket, why not?'.

It was never a penalty in this world!
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 20, 2010, 03:42:28 PM
Yes

My dad is a Blues fan, and when I was a kid used to take me to Villa matches (as I kept nagging him).

Every time we came out of the game, he'd say "will you come to Blues with me next week", and I'd flatly refuse.

Then in 1976, I finally agreed, and he took me to see them beat Derby County 5-1.

After the match he was all excited, bless him, and we had this exchange.

Him: "That was a good match wasn't it?"
Me: "Yes, it was"
Him: "Francis is a good player, isn't he?"
Me: "Yes" (I think at this point I probably shuddered a bit).
Him: "Would you come with me again?"
Me: "Under no circumstances".

And i haven't since. He's been to plenty of Villa games with me, though, and carried on taking me until i was old enough to go with friends.

Harsh, but that's the way the cookie crumbles, noses.
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Post by: 144 Hard Boiled Eggs on April 20, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
Never - would've been disowned by my family. Nearly all of my mates are noses as I grew up in Acocks Green so had plenty of chances but it was a definite no no!
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Post by: b23 on April 20, 2010, 04:00:51 PM
No. Never have and i have no plans to ever do so.
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Post by: Upper Trinity on April 20, 2010, 04:02:27 PM
I went to the recent SHA v Liverpool game at the sty.

On a work jolly, free ticket and hospitality.

I got pissed and laughed at all the retards clapping along to that daft 90's dance tune they play when the teams come out.
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Post by: Dave P on April 20, 2010, 04:03:17 PM
I'm afraid to say I went to 4 games last season and I didn't see them win once.  I've been at various other games of theirs in the past few years as well as my best mate is a nose.

I've also been to pre season friendly away games to watch them as well because of my mate and he has been to a few Villa ones with me as well.
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Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2010, 04:07:37 PM
Wow i was expecting excommunication for my terrible confession,but there are others of you who have done it!
As for Pauliewalnuts,what a heart warming story that despite your father you still took up the claret and blue faith.Its good to see the cycle of abuse being broken in at least one family,unfortunately there is still much work to be done because even these days many youngsters are being taken to small heath by their fathers and being subjected to this.Frankly its child cruelty in my book.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2010, 04:21:15 PM
Three or four. The last was when we took some Banik fans there in 1990. Small Heath to their credit laid on tickets for them and we watched as they struggled to a valiant draw against Exeter City in front of about 6,000. At the end of that season they took the entire population of Birmingham to Wembley in the Shard End Glass Shield.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 20, 2010, 04:22:46 PM
I went to some England Youth tournament a few years back with a bloke from work, it was more of an excuse to have a few pints on the way there than to watch any football.
We lasted about half-an-hour before buggering off to the pub again.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 20, 2010, 04:33:52 PM
Loads. Used to go at half-time when they let you in free, not like the ten minutes from the end you got down The Villa. Just to meet my mates really, then we'd go in the supporters club under the Railway End, then the D-Club, later called the Trevor Francis suite, then some of the local pubs as we meandered into town.

I was in the Sportsman once when a bloke came round selling framed pictures entitled 'Birmingham City Legends' with drawings of such luminaries as Paul Devlin on it. Pretending to be a nose, I said to the bloke incredulously 'Paul Fucking Devlin! Fuck me, we must be hard up for legends', as my mates looked on embarrassed but not wanting to say anything to give me away to the rest of the knuckledraggers, who thought I was genuine and were nodding in agreement with me.
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Post by: Oscar Arce on April 20, 2010, 04:47:09 PM
When I was a lad I played for a side that had their team get-togethers in the Supporters Club down the Blues, so I sort of had to go.
A few of my mates were Bluenoses, so I watched some night games down there, notably a 4-0 win over Bolton I think, with a young Francis scoring, and also Jimmy Greenhoff.
This would have been around '71 when they were better than us (just) as we were so shite, with the likes of Greenhoff, Vincent, Latchford, Francis and Summerhill in their side.
I still though, can't get the smell of piss and stale Bovril from my nostrils after all these years......
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Post by: dave.woodhall on April 20, 2010, 04:53:19 PM
Quote from: "Percy"
Loads. Used to go at half-time when they let you in free, not like the ten minutes from the end you got down The Villa.


I do wonder if their eighties hooligan problem was because they'd encouraged so many rats to get in at half time in the seventies.
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Post by: Chipsticks on April 20, 2010, 04:56:18 PM
Went to the 2-2 when eduardo got crocked.

and a 1-1 with newcastle in the same season, good games actually though  the songs were shit:

"duh duh duh duhhhhh, fucking useless"  

and "KEEP RIGHT ON to the....*murmurs into the one bloke who knows it*



not kidding, that was literally all they sang.
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Post by: Holtenderinthesky on April 20, 2010, 04:56:31 PM
I would neer step foot in there even if Villa WERE playing.  I go to loads of away games and in fact the Sty and Hull are the only Prem grounds I have not been to (to be corrected tomo).  I wouldn't give them my money for a start, plus they are animals.
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Post by: Chipsticks on April 20, 2010, 05:16:56 PM
and whats wrong with hull?
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Post by: Yossarian on April 20, 2010, 05:20:54 PM
Been a few times not for a while though. The last time was a dull mid-week draw with Norwich in the championship. I was hideously drunk.
Title: Ever been to a non villa game at small heath?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 20, 2010, 05:29:35 PM
Quote from: "Holtenderinthesky"
I would neer step foot in there even if Villa WERE playing.  I go to loads of away games and in fact the Sty and Hull are the only Prem grounds I have not been to (to be corrected tomo).  I wouldn't give them my money for a start, plus they are animals.


At last,someone who wouldnt go to the place under any circumstances,not even for a villa game.Reminds me a few years back we got a taxi from the middle of liverpool to anfield,the evertonian driver actually stopped a few streets short refusing to go any nearer.
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Post by: Bungle on April 20, 2010, 06:02:38 PM
Many times, when I started going to pro football I went round with a group of mixed fans (mainly Villa, but also Bloose, Walsall, Wolves and a Leeds fan).  If our team were away and we couldn't get to the game we would go to which ever promised to be the most entertaining locally.

Shocking admission: the first time I saw a pro team was when the scum went to Alvechurch to celebrate the switch on of their newly installed flood-lights.
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Post by: PeterWithe on April 20, 2010, 06:11:34 PM
Once for a game, they were playing Barnsley in 1986 in front of about five a half thousand, I think we lasted until half an hour in, utter garbage.  Also went for a corporate jolly to the ground when there was no game on, I got told off by the commissionaire for taking the piss out of the trophy cabinet and then threatened with a good hiding for telling the noses there that I had wandered onto the field and pissed in the eighteen yard box, it wasn't true though.
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Post by: Nev on April 20, 2010, 06:15:24 PM
Some years ago me and my mate decided to see how the other half live and went to Small Heath V Albion at The Sty.

Being from bandit country (Sheldon) we naturally went in the Tilton with the Baggies brains trust.

The place had that dead, hopeless, moribund feeling. Half empty with both teams pissing around at the bottom of the second division.

Then who should pop up with a last minute winner for the Albion? Why the one and only Robert Hopkins. The away end went mad.
So did me and my mate, driven crazy by the irony of the whole situation.
Our most hated rivals loosing in the last minute to our second most hated rivals with a goal scored by the most odious 'nose in christendom, against his favourite team.
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Post by: hilts_coolerking on April 20, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
Once.

In my defence I went with my old man, a Leyton Orient fan, to see them play SHA in one of those third-rate cup competitions in the mid 1990s (I think).

Fortunately (but it's all relative) we were in with the O's fans.

Can't remember anything about it other than one of the away supporters, a skinhead wearing a white chip shop coat, punching an errant clearance (and there were plenty) back on to the pitch.
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Post by: Holtenderinthesky on April 20, 2010, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: "Chipsticks"
and whats wrong with hull?


Nothing, that I know of.  I'm going tomo for the 1st time.
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Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 20, 2010, 06:51:58 PM
I saw them play Hibs in a friendly in about 67/68 and Nottm Forest in a League Cup Match. That would have been about 1970.
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Post by: ez on April 20, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
I went to see them get relegated against Southampton i think. It was great.
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Post by: Kingthing on April 20, 2010, 09:01:31 PM
It was the Blues first game in division 3 (against Crewe) I'd planned to go to Forest away and spent what seemed like an eternity waiting for the 63 bus in Rubery to take me to town, the longer I waited the more I realised I wasn't going to make the train.

I walked into the Pet shop (owned by a mate) distraught, he said I should go and watch the Blues, at 17 It was still new to me and thought of going there scared me as I thought they'd know I was there as a Villa fan.

I was wearing my Villa shirt and had to go to Fosters and buy a cheap t-shirt and leave the Villa top in the shop. All I can remember was how hot it was and that they won 3-0.

Upon my return I heard George Gavin harping on about the way Villa fans had been treated in Nottingham and kept in a cage at the station, I tried calling Gavin and told him the day I'd had and asked him to fill me in on their plight, he told me to stop telling tales and hung up.
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Post by: villajk on April 20, 2010, 09:14:47 PM
I went once.  I can't remember who with, although it was probably my ex, or who they were playing.

Once was enough.
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Post by: The Man With A Stick on April 20, 2010, 09:43:17 PM
Never.  Haven't even driven past it in the car, the closest I've been is probably the Coventry Road.
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Post by: E I Adio on April 21, 2010, 12:18:04 AM
Every fortnight, but not since the end of the 60's when my bluenose best mate got married and moved away. In fairness he used to stand on the Holte with me for every home game at Villa Park. Good banter but never any aggravation, even in Small Heath, maybe because we both had such shit teams in those days, so losing was not an alien concept to either of us.

Last time I visited Small Heath was to watch a youth cup game against Spurs. A kid called Graeme Souness was playing in the Spurs youth team.

I remember saying to my mate what a dirty bastard he was.
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Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 21, 2010, 04:10:02 PM
Went loads of times as a kid as my best mate was a Nose and his dad offered to take me to some games if Villa weren't playing. Bloody depressing football on the whole.

I was at the game Vs Leeds in 85 that was interupted by a mass riot, and someone was killed that day.

Haven't been to a non Villa game there for many years now though. I wouldn't want to anyway, plus I know too many of their faces so it would be too uncomfortable.
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Post by: curiousorange on April 21, 2010, 04:23:54 PM
The only time I've been was in the season before their promotion to the PL the first time (so that's got to be 2002). My dad used to work for a company called Coffee Maid who had a box there and I had to wear a suit to get access to their 'executive facilities'. All the chaps their started going on about how they used to support the Villa but Blues was cheaper so they swapped (glad to be rid of 'em if that was the reason).

They played Grimsby and won 4-0. You couldn't see shit from their boxes because they were so low down behind their fans so I followed the game on SSN which they had on a crappy portable left on the desk, and we sat on bar stools.

The Queen Mum died the same day. I was more upset by the fact Blues were about to be promoted.
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Post by: Rotterdam on April 21, 2010, 06:18:08 PM
v Stevenage in the cup about 12 years ago. I was following the 'nage.
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Post by: London Villan on April 22, 2010, 04:00:20 PM
A fair few times there and even a couple of aways, due to having a load of Bluenose mates.

Best one was seeing them relegated (I forget which time). I was in a box taking pictures of the few that were there! Very amusing.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 22, 2010, 05:13:16 PM
I was in the away end when Cheltenham Town went there in the FA Cup and were very unfortunate to lose about 20 years ago.
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Post by: D.boy on April 22, 2010, 11:06:56 PM
As mentioned elsewhere, in the early eighties my dad worked on the turnstiles at the sty and Villa Park. I watched a seasons worth of free games at the sty and had a season ticket at Villa.
The place was a dump.
In the early 90's I went to see Northampton V Noses as a couple of workmates were going and as I had nothing else to do I tagged along. Stood amongst the unwashed was not a pleasurable experience and I had to control myself not to cheer when Northampton scored twice. The final score was 2-2. My bloody mates kept threatening to grass me up as a Villa fan.
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Post by: BC54 VFC on April 23, 2010, 11:55:12 PM
Yes, 31 Dec 77, Blues 4 Chelsea 5, 19,876

Was working for Lloyds Bank International at the time and went with one of my bosses who was a Chelsea fan from Southend. We sat on the side with the Blues fans and thoroughly enjoyed the game / result!
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Post by: Goldie.7 on April 24, 2010, 12:24:26 AM
No never!

My mate and my boss are big bluenoses if they ever asked me would i like to come along because someone has let them down and there's a ticket going spare?

Even if i had nothing to do i would politely go tell them to fcuk off. If my wba/wolves supporting friends ever ask me the same and i was free i would consider it!

It's sha i bet they would say the same to me aswell. My boss was a complete tool to me when we won 0-1 i won't be running my mouth come monday if we............ but?

I honestly can't see us winning sorry.
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Post by: willywombat on April 24, 2010, 06:10:44 AM
Loads of times in the early 70's as most of my school mates were noses and I couldnt afford many away games. Went once in about 2000 with a mate to see them play Middlesbrough as Andy Townsend was playing for them, I think he may have scored in a 1-1 draw. Dirty, smelly hovel it is
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Post by: Willie Anderson on April 24, 2010, 10:52:55 AM
My first game I went to was a cup final at St Andrews (the name escapes me, Midland/Birmingham Combination Cup?) it would have been around May 1967. We sat in the main stand, it was Birmingham City Police vs somebody else all I can remember was thinking "what a shithole"(or words to that effect I was only 8) I attended my first Villa game the next season & the rest is history.

As an aside, in 1975 for being a bit nawty I was sent to an Attendance Centre for 20 weeks. this was in Cherrywood Road. This was for 2 hours 14.00-16.00 every Saturday afternoon.

We played murder ball for an hour( basically the white kids vs the black kids kicking shit out of each other) then an hour of workshop(making kung fu stars & other implements of mass destruction).

Anyhow every other week the Blues were at home & me & me mate would go watch the second half at St Andrews (QPR was one game I remember).


As going to the Attendance Centre was aimed at keeping us out of bother at Football games it wasn't very successful ;-)
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Post by: Dublin Villa on June 05, 2010, 07:48:39 AM
Went to the Birmingham v Cheltenham in the cup mentioned earlier , In the Tilton that day don't  remember the score but remember plenty of Villa songs being sung and plenty of Zulus waiting outside! . Also remember going to match against Cardiff in about 86 and Bournemouth in the cup with a decent Bluenose from school, just remembered how empty the Kop was compared to the Holte and felt very paranoid.
 
Being at st Andrews always felt like cheating
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Post by: andyaston on June 05, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
A few times, mainly in the early 90s with my Blues supporting mate if I couldnt go to away games.

Remember once Villa were away to Coventry in Savo's first season but I went to the Sty where they were playing Oldham. I went in the away end with a non supporting friend and after a while during the inivitable 0-0 draw we started singing Villa songs which the Oldham fans glady joined in.

It was class there were only a few hundred away fans but they still outsang that lot in the kop. To top it off Villa won 3-0 at Highfield Road.
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Post by: peter w on June 05, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
No, never. I can't even watch them on the telly. Sky or 30 seconds on MOTD. They make me feel sick.
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Post by: Mac on June 05, 2010, 10:58:47 PM
Once when I was about 17/18.

It was against Wolves, or Albion.  Can't remember which.  I think it was close to Christmas/New Year and I went with a Wolves supporting mate and a Albion supporting mate that bit I'm certain. Don't remember anything else about it at all.

EDIT: Clearly I know less than I thought.  No Christmas fixture in the time period.
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Post by: JD on June 06, 2010, 02:02:37 AM
Only once. Back in about 1975 when they played at home to West Ham and lost 5-1. Decided I would never go back to the shithole after that. Went with my older Brother who wouldn't take me to Villa unless I went to this game with him (can't understand why he wanted to go, he's a yiddo).
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Post by: CT on June 06, 2010, 10:14:44 AM
Twice - way back. Once with Cheltenham Town when they were non-league in an FA Cup match - travesty that they lost 1-0, and there was a lot of "naughtiness" going on that day.

Once with a mate who supported Crewe, so again we stood in the corner and Crewe won 2-0 delighting their, ahem, 100 or so fans.

Been there loads with Villa but the last time was the 1-0 Kevin Rchardson game in the League Cup so it's been a while.
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Post by: Villan For Life on June 07, 2010, 07:01:49 AM
My ex-wife was a Nose so have crossed the cursed threshold about a dozen times. I did wipe my feet on the way out though!

All of the games were prior to their first promotion to the land of milk and honey. I particularly enjoyed being at Blose - Baggies and Blose - Wolves games as a neutral. Well kind of neutral. I always wanted those inbred knuckledraggers to lose!

My favourite memory is one of their failed play-off attempts that I went to. They played Barnsley in the 1st leg of the play-off semis and got tanked  4 - 0. The place empited soon after half time and my ex wanted to join the exodus. Quoting my "I never leave a game before the end" rule, I made her sit through the second half.

The divorce cost me a bomb but it was worth it!
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Post by: ColinMac on June 07, 2010, 06:01:10 PM
Ex missus was (and probably still is a Blues ST holder) went to a few games with her during their first season back up.

Remember once they were losing at home to Man City whilst we were playing at Old Trafford.. Mellberg put us one up, got a text about the score and nearly gave myself away by shouting "yes" for no particular reason, more than a few funny looks.

Quickly saw sense and stopped all that nonsense.
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Post by: Chris Harte on June 07, 2010, 06:39:23 PM
Never been there unless it was to see the Villa.

Quote from: "CT"
Been there loads with Villa but the last time was the 1-0 Kevin Rchardson game in the League Cup so it's been a while.

That was my last time there too. The russian roulette with bricks and bottles afterwards convinced me never to do it again.
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Post by: London Villan on June 08, 2010, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: "Chris Harte"
Never been there unless it was to see the Villa.

Quote from: "CT"
Been there loads with Villa but the last time was the 1-0 Kevin Rchardson game in the League Cup so it's been a while.

That was my last time there too. The russian roulette with bricks and bottles afterwards convinced me never to do it again.


Ahhh... what fun it was at Garrison Lane that night!
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on June 08, 2010, 01:26:55 PM
My first ever trip there was for a charity event (a mixture of other Midlands clubs against the noses) in aid of victims of the Birmingham Pub bombings, that was in '74.  Seen a few other non Villa Blues matches over the years having married into a Nose family, the most notable being a West Ham cup match in the 80's....a lot of trouble at that.

My last sortie was the benefit match for the Rover workers a few years back.   I have to say, although we have a certain moronic element at Villa Park this lot take it to a whole new level.  

On the whole I find the place a depressing shit hole, it has no redeeming qualities, it lacks character and soul, there is nothing to like let alone love there.  It is a place most befitting of our neighbours.
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Post by: Simba on June 09, 2010, 09:03:21 AM
Once. Seventies. Never again.

They nicked my car.

Well, I forgot it had a Villa sticker on the back window. Duh.
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Post by: castlefields_villan on January 30, 2013, 05:43:32 PM

Ever been to a non villa game at small heath?

« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2010, 01:26:55 PM »

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My first ever trip there was for a charity event (a mixture of other Midlands clubs against the noses) in aid of victims of the Birmingham Pub bombings, that was in '74.


I remember going to this game as well and as most Villa supporters did, decided to stand at the old Tilton End - I was speechless as all I can remember coming down from the rags on the old kop were cries of "we hate Villa, we hate Villa" - it was a charity match played in what was a most unpleasant and fearful period of time to be living in Birmingham.
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Post by: Big Dick Edwards on January 30, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
A Nose mate of mine had a spare ticket for a Blues home game in the mid-90s, against Ipswich I think. T o numb the pain I went drinking with him beforehand in a pub I believe was called Eddies. Initially my mate hadn't intimated to anyone in the pub that I was Villa and I'd been chatting away with lots of the regulars he knew quite merrily while depositing large quantities of Guinness. After a few hours my mate proceeded to let it slip that I was Villa and these same blokes I'd been talking to suddenly saw me in a very different light and their friendly attitude changed. I found their faces and change of attitude very amusing. It was if they'd seen life from another planet and were pretty surprised that a Villa season ticket holder was amongst them on their own patch. In what I considered to be an act of bullshit bravado one even went on to tell me he'd recently shagged Sid's wife while he was on a building job just to get one over the Villa. I can't remember too much about the match other than they won 4-0 and Michael Carrick was playing for them on loan.
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 30, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
Bluenose mate's dad couldn't make the game, so I went about 4 years ago maybe?

It was against Wigan and Blues won 1-0 but should have had Ridgewell sent off.

I had drank most of a bottle of vodka and about 4 pints before the game and actually fell asleep at half-time....
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Post by: Damo70 on January 31, 2013, 05:00:06 AM
Some years ago me and my mate decided to see how the other half live and went to Small Heath V Albion at The Sty.

Being from bandit country (Sheldon) we naturally went in the Tilton with the Baggies brains trust.

The place had that dead, hopeless, moribund feeling. Half empty with both teams pissing around at the bottom of the second division.

Then who should pop up with a last minute winner for the Albion? Why the one and only Robert Hopkins. The away end went mad.
So did me and my mate, driven crazy by the irony of the whole situation.
Our most hated rivals loosing in the last minute to our second most hated rivals with a goal scored by the most odious 'nose in christendom, against his favourite team.

If I remember right that was you, me and our pet Albion fan/mate Foxy. I went again with him ( I think it was the following year) and after watching Albion win 1-4 we left the away end to go onto the kop to join in with the sack the board chants. Not sure how we got away with the fact we were pissing ourselves while everyone else had a face contorted with anger .

As a kid my uncle Les worked as a steward in a little courtyard they had behind the players tunnel in the corner. Throughout my childhood I had an open invitation to get in for nothing. Apart from a Blues Villa 0-0 draw in 1985 when no-one else I knew was going so I settled for the sitting with the enemy option, the only time I took up his offer was the infamous Leeds game. Due to my 'lofty connections' I ended up taking refuge in the bar sat with David Seaman and his dad while news of the Bradford fire was filtering through.
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Post by: atticus snood on January 31, 2013, 07:24:12 PM
I had some mates in the early 90's who were SHA fans and I used to go there when Villa weren't at home. It was at the time of the Kumars. It was all pretty tedious. My nephews and brother in law are SHA fans and I got free tickets during their last relegation season so I'd treat them and take them down. It was very hard not to laugh when Fulham turned them over in one on their last PL games. I never felt comfortable there... I always got the impression they all knew I was a Holte Ender and would denounce me at any time. My nephews, to their credit, kept shtum.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 01, 2013, 01:54:45 AM
In the late 60's a school mate, a fellow Villa fan, decided it would be a good idea; that's my excuse anyway. Bear in mind that the entrance fee was probably 5 shillings (25p) or less.

It was late spring and they were playing Crystal Palace, and we joined in with the very loud chants of "We want our money back", and they lost. Villa won away.
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Post by: Zakk Fatt on February 01, 2013, 02:31:37 AM
Yes, I was on leave from the army and I couldnt get tickets for our last game of the season away to Everton so I went to the Sty.  Blues needed to win to get promotion against someone but the opponents scored and so the 'Zulus' from the Tilton corner flag staged the first of many pitch invasions to try and cancel the game.

I thought I was on my own until about two thousand voices from the back of the tilton started up with 'Shit on the City' to lots of coats being removed to reveal villa shirts.  Oh the Eightees.  We bossed them that day in thier own back yard whilst the other half of us were up in Liverpool.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 01, 2013, 02:36:22 AM
Yes, I was on leave from the army and I couldnt get tickets for our last game of the season away to Everton so I went to the Sty.  Blues needed to win to get promotion against someone but the opponents scored and so the 'Zulus' from the Tilton corner flag staged the first of many pitch invasions to try and cancel the game.

I thought I was on my own until about two thousand voices from the back of the tilton started up with 'Shit on the City' to lots of coats being removed to reveal villa shirts.  Oh the Eightees.  We bossed them that day in thier own back yard whilst the other half of us were up in Liverpool.

You crack me up, Zakk.
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Post by: Zakk Fatt on February 01, 2013, 02:48:18 AM
Oh I forgot, I think I still have a lifetime ban at the Sty for shouting 'animals, bastards' at Robert Hopkins. I got arrested and thrown into a van after 10 minutes of a Blues v Villa gane, was given a lifetime ban by the copper on caution but walked around to the Tilton and watched the last 15 minutes, we won 3-1, the eightees....they were great!!
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 01, 2013, 07:35:11 AM
Seems there were a few of us at the Leeds game. The shit of Birmingham, indeed they were, that day. Been to a fair few. Remember Gary Crosby ripping them apart for Forest, and Captain Dislocatedshoulder netting against them in the cup, which, I think, came in Fergie-time before it had been invented. Horrible place. "Watch yer back, mate" as the bloke behind takes a piss. That shitting stupid massive "clock". Putting up the half-times on those numbered pegs when the rest of the world had invented electricity and the PA, always putting us 9-0 down.
As an aside, a non-footballing mate went to that massive woolworth's that used to be over there. Took his lad, probably about six at the time.
"Dad, after we've finished in here, are we going to B&Q?"
"No. Why would we be going to B&Q?"
"Cos I always like it when we go there, and there's a massive one next door." Bless him.
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Post by: Mortimer's Bear on February 01, 2013, 03:40:57 PM
Yes once, but I don't want to talk about it.
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Post by: Gib on February 01, 2013, 06:05:33 PM
Been there with the reserves and youth a few times if that counts.

Every single time have stood out like Rosa Parks on a bus. Even had abuse off the bloke on the turnstile before, no colours or anything, must be the unprecedented level of personal hygiene we bring to the place..
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Post by: Pete3206 on February 01, 2013, 07:37:47 PM
Once in the eighties when they played Forest and a day in a box about a decade ago when they played Walsall.

Both were wretched experiences.
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Post by: silhillvilla on February 01, 2013, 10:24:10 PM
Yeah loads in the 80s as a teenage new romantic / dresser / football casual.
Me mates were 70% villa 30% noses so we alternated each week between b6 and the sty, most memorable was 86 the Leeds riot, what a day that was. Recall them beating ManUre 1-0 same year I think. Always felt a bit dirty going there but as mates we all stuck together week in week out including reserve games.
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Post by: rob_bridge on February 02, 2013, 02:12:09 PM
Occasional me and my mate (Nose) used to exchange games on alternate seasons in the mid 1990s.
Last time went with him to watch that lot v Tranmere because Shaun Teale was playing for them. Can't remember whether it was 1-0 to them or 1-1.
Tealey won practically every header v Kevin Francis despite being about 9 inches shorter.
Was in the old Railway end - what a shit hole.

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Post by: BC54 VFC on February 02, 2013, 11:26:51 PM
Yes, just once on New Year's Eve 1977, Blues 4 Chelsea 5. Went with my boss at the time who was a Chelsea fan and we sat amongst the Blues fans. A thoroughly enjoyable experience!!
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Post by: Ray Turner on February 03, 2013, 01:22:02 AM
I almost went to a pre-season "friendly" when they played Celtic in the mid-90's. I met a mate in Digbeth for a few beers early doors (big mistake) as we ended up in the Old Wharf which was full of hoops. We were paid a visit by a sizeable firm of Zulus who subsequently smashed the windows and hurled CS gas in to the bar - really brave as there were women and kids in there. This was followed by several running battles en route to the sty by which time I decided enough was enough and buggered off home.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 04, 2013, 11:36:27 PM
No.

That will change if they're in the same division as Walsall which could happen in a year or two.
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Post by: kiddylion on February 04, 2013, 11:57:12 PM
I went in 94 & stood in the away end when Kidderminster beat them 2-1 in the FA cup,fairplay to the noses the stayed behind & applauded kiddy off the pitch at the end.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 06, 2013, 12:50:00 AM
I often just used to go in their away and support whoever they were playing against such was my loathing for them in my youth. Remember joining in with play up pompey during Alan Balls reign after a 1~0 at the sty.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 06, 2013, 01:15:25 AM
Been there with the reserves and youth a few times if that counts.

Every single time have stood out like Rosa Parks on a bus. Even had abuse off the bloke on the turnstile before, no colours or anything, must be the unprecedented level of personal hygiene we bring to the place..

It's odd how they could always spot us. Had to get off the 50 because of that "gift" a little earlier than planned on a couple of occasions
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Post by: Damo70 on February 06, 2013, 03:52:36 PM
I've just remembered going with a mate who had a spare ticket for a meaningless mid table game towards the end of Barry Fry's last season. It was against Luton. My mate had a fiver on Blues to win 3-0 and everything was going great for him until they got a very late fourth. We were the only two in the stand who didn't cheer. For different reasons obviously.
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Post by: ez on February 07, 2013, 12:57:32 PM
Yes. Me and a mate went to see them get relegated once against Southampton :)
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Post by: andyaston on February 07, 2013, 03:21:01 PM
Oh I forgot, I think I still have a lifetime ban at the Sty for shouting 'animals, bastards' at Robert Hopkins. I got arrested and thrown into a van after 10 minutes of a Blues v Villa gane, was given a lifetime ban by the copper on caution but walked around to the Tilton and watched the last 15 minutes, we won 3-1, the eightees....they were great!!
I cannot, maybe i'm wrong here, remember us beating them 3-1 at the Sty in the 1980s??
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 07, 2013, 03:28:00 PM
Oh I forgot, I think I still have a lifetime ban at the Sty for shouting 'animals, bastards' at Robert Hopkins. I got arrested and thrown into a van after 10 minutes of a Blues v Villa gane, was given a lifetime ban by the copper on caution but walked around to the Tilton and watched the last 15 minutes, we won 3-1, the eightees....they were great!!
I cannot, maybe i'm wrong here, remember us beating them 3-1 at the Sty in the 1980s??

League Cup, two-legged early round? It was something like that at theirs, then I think we put 5 past them back at ours. Not definite without checking. Would, but can't be arsed right now. Might look in a bit
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 07, 2013, 04:09:12 PM
Oh I forgot, I think I still have a lifetime ban at the Sty for shouting 'animals, bastards' at Robert Hopkins. I got arrested and thrown into a van after 10 minutes of a Blues v Villa gane, was given a lifetime ban by the copper on caution but walked around to the Tilton and watched the last 15 minutes, we won 3-1, the eightees....they were great!!
I cannot, maybe i'm wrong here, remember us beating them 3-1 at the Sty in the 1980s??

League Cup, two-legged early round? It was something like that at theirs, then I think we put 5 past them back at ours. Not definite without checking. Would, but can't be arsed right now. Might look in a bit

Apparently, according to tinterweb, we've never won 3-1 at theirs. 2-0 and 5-0, that league cup tie
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Post by: andyaston on February 07, 2013, 04:53:12 PM
I know. We won in the league 2-1 (80/81), 1-0(81/82) and 2-1(87/88). Lost 3-0 (82/83), 2-1 (83/84) and drew 0-0 (85/86). I think we were in different divisions the other years. maybe it was a frielndly.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 07, 2013, 05:13:41 PM
Yes. Me and a mate went to see them get relegated once against Southampton :)

Was that a goaless draw in 1984 when their own striker they loaned to Coventry (Mick Ferguson) scored a goal to help send them down? Actually I'm 99.9% sure it was and didn't really need to ask the question but it is always nice to bring it up again.
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Post by: usav on February 07, 2013, 07:36:39 PM
Lost 3-0 (82/83)

I was in the Kop for that one with my older brother, scared shitless. 
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Post by: andyaston on February 07, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
Lost 3-0 (82/83)

I was in the Kop for that one with my older brother, scared shitless. 
Snap, I was with my dad, the Villa end was full up and as a 7 year old im still scared from the experience.
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Post by: JD on February 08, 2013, 06:51:07 AM
I went to the Sty before I ever went to Villa (in 1974 with my big brother). They lost 5-1 or something at home to West Ham (useless back then as well :D). That's the only time I've been there for a non Villa game.   
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2013, 08:37:33 AM
Lost 3-0 (82/83)

I was in the Kop for that one with my older brother, scared shitless. 
Snap, I was with my dad, the Villa end was full up and as a 7 year old im still scared from the experience.

I was twelve and in the Villa end. A bluenose work colleague of mine who was too young to remember those days was asking me if I was scared by the atmosphere at 'the Enckelman game'. He said he had never known anything like it. I told him it was nothing compared to Boxing day 1982.
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Post by: NeilH on February 08, 2013, 08:57:51 AM
I went with my Port Vale supporting mates to the Sty about 13 years ago when Vale were in the old Division 2. I wore my Villa shirt under my jumper and was seen to be celebrating even more than the Vale fans when Vale scored and eventually won the match
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Post by: Pat McMahon on February 08, 2013, 11:31:55 AM
Lost 3-0 (82/83)

I was in the Kop for that one with my older brother, scared shitless. 
Snap, I was with my dad, the Villa end was full up and as a 7 year old im still scared from the experience.

I was twelve and in the Villa end. A bluenose work colleague of mine who was too young to remember those days was asking me if I was scared by the atmosphere at 'the Enckelman game'. He said he had never known anything like it. I told him it was nothing compared to Boxing day 1982.

I was at that game in the away end in the Tilton and it was one of the worst defeats of my life. It compounded what was already a shit Christmas.

There was a real nasty mood among Villa fans too that day, and as it was probably the last time Blues had a gate over 40k I can assume it was reciprocated. I can't remember clearly as i have tried to deny all knowledge of the game.

Overall I felt it was less violent than the previous February when we had won 1-0 a few days after Saunders had joined them. That was a real firecracker of a day with running battles around the ground and into town, with a fair number of C Crew kicking off on the Kop before the game. A Geordie mate of mine came along and said that game completely changed his opinion of Villa fans. He thinks we are violent nutters.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2013, 02:34:23 PM
The abuse we gave Noel Blake was as hate filled as anything I can remember from Villa fans. Unfortunately he got the first goal right in front of us. I think Handysides got a late third and I have a vague memory that Curbishley might have got the other goal. Jimmy Rimmer's last game for us.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 08, 2013, 02:40:46 PM
Neither was as bad as the 1988 second division game, which even Noses of my acquaintance refer to a bad one, which is saying something. One calls it the Vietnam game while another said of it, "You got the feeling all afternoon that if you'd lit a match the whole ground would have exploded."

It's the only game when I've walked through the city centre afterwards, seen the gangs roaming round and thought it was wrong that football should impose itself on society like this.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2013, 02:51:24 PM
Was that the game where Garry Thompson got a couple of goals? I was about as far away as I could possibly be, on holiday in Australia. Which was a good move from everything I've heard since. I remember phoning home for the result and then on my return to England I made my only ever visit to their club shop to buy the video of the game.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 08, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
That's the one.
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Post by: LeeB on February 08, 2013, 03:35:22 PM
Neither was as bad as the 1988 second division game, which even Noses of my acquaintance refer to a bad one, which is saying something. One calls it the Vietnam game while another said of it, "You got the feeling all afternoon that if you'd lit a match the whole ground would have exploded."

It's the only game when I've walked through the city centre afterwards, seen the gangs roaming round and thought it was wrong that football should impose itself on society like this.

Pedant alert= it was 1987.

I would know this as it was my 11th birthday, I can remember standing outside Argos with my mom waiting for the bus at around 3 o'clock looking over to the floodlights wishing I'd been allowed to go with my brother.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2013, 03:42:59 PM
So we beat Blues 2-1 on your eleventh birthday in 1987.That gives me a nice excuse to throw in one of my favourite memories.Beating them 6-0  in the Simod cup on my eighteenth birthday in 1988.
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Post by: LeeB on February 08, 2013, 03:51:10 PM
So we beat Blues 2-1 on your eleventh birthday in 1987.That gives me a nice excuse to throw in one of my favourite memories.Beating them 6-0  in the Simod cup on my eighteenth birthday in 1988.

Final instalment of the '13 goals in 3 games'.

I'd just started senior school, and went to both legs of the league cup. I'm certain that many noses in my year went into hiding after that and only resurfaced as rags when they got back up.
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Post by: Nev on February 08, 2013, 04:02:11 PM
Baldwin is a goose.
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Post by: Damo70 on February 08, 2013, 04:09:04 PM
Baldwin is a goose.

Donaghy is a donkey.
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Post by: andyaston on February 08, 2013, 08:36:03 PM
That's the one.
I went with my older brother to that one. I was happy to get into the ground in one piece because as soon as we walked around the corner of the Tilton towards the turnstiles there was a few things going on.

Got inside, and all the lower tier of their main stand was starring at us, this contined throughout the game, it was almost as though their hate for us meant more than the football. Thompson scored the opener and we went berserk. However, it wasn't long before Kenedy scored for them, all be it the ball went through a hole in the net!

Bruno scored again in the second half, cue wild celebrations. Then I remember watching that Ansells clock, wiling it to full time so I could get out of the dump and have bragging rights at school on the monday.

When the final whistle went, there was celebrations then the thought of getting home in one piece desended on us. Got the bus back to the city centre but a few bluenoses were looking at us because we had no colours, it was intimidating. I could hear some of them saying well we beat them 3-2 on aggregate if you add the Villa Park league game onto this match (0-2) thats how small minded they were. Got off the bus and we got shouted at for being Villa wankers! how did they know?

Got our heads down and finally got our bus back home and saftey and hour later. Phew!
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Post by: dave.woodhall on February 08, 2013, 11:59:19 PM
Neither was as bad as the 1988 second division game, which even Noses of my acquaintance refer to a bad one, which is saying something. One calls it the Vietnam game while another said of it, "You got the feeling all afternoon that if you'd lit a match the whole ground would have exploded."

It's the only game when I've walked through the city centre afterwards, seen the gangs roaming round and thought it was wrong that football should impose itself on society like this.

Pedant alert= it was 1987.

I would know this as it was my 11th birthday, I can remember standing outside Argos with my mom waiting for the bus at around 3 o'clock looking over to the floodlights wishing I'd been allowed to go with my brother.

Sorry, I meant to say 87-88.
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Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on February 09, 2013, 08:29:43 AM
In 1979 I was up in Brum and Villa were away, so I went to see Small Heath play Tottenham on the basis that I'd complete my collection of Argentinian World Cup winners in the form of Alberto Tarantini (I'd already seen Ardiles and Villa lose at White Hart Lane to Villa *snigger*). They played Tarantini at left wing (as he'd already proved by that time that he wasn't up to it at left back) and sadly they won. The bast I can say about Tarantini was that he had nice hair.

I was, however, taken aback by the decrepitude of their ground - and don't forget I'd been to Leyton Orient's weed-strewn dump on several occasions and so was used to a very low standard.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 09, 2013, 09:31:51 AM
I went with my older brother to that one. I was happy to get into the ground in one piece because as soon as we walked around the corner of the Tilton towards the turnstiles there was a few things going on.

I remember being stood in the queue outside the tilton, and a shout went up, probably "Lulu", at which point a load of them, dispersed amongst us, smacked whoever was stood in front of them in the back of the head, and then legged it.
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Post by: Rotterdam on February 09, 2013, 12:07:51 PM
Following Stevenage Boro in the FA Cup, probably about 1997?
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Post by: Pat McMahon on February 09, 2013, 07:08:25 PM
Neither was as bad as the 1988 second division game, which even Noses of my acquaintance refer to a bad one, which is saying something. One calls it the Vietnam game while another said of it, "You got the feeling all afternoon that if you'd lit a match the whole ground would have exploded."

It's the only game when I've walked through the city centre afterwards, seen the gangs roaming round and thought it was wrong that football should impose itself on society like this.

Pedant alert= it was 1987.

I would know this as it was my 11th birthday, I can remember standing outside Argos with my mom waiting for the bus at around 3 o'clock looking over to the floodlights wishing I'd been allowed to go with my brother.

Sorry, I meant to say 87-88.

LeeB, we share the same birthday, though sadly I am several years older than you.

That 12 December 1987 game was the most scared I have ever been at a match, as the crush outside the 4-5 turnstiles at the Tilton was terrifying. I got to the ground at 2.15 and by the time we got in at 3.25 it was already 1-1.

In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.
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Post by: willywombat on February 09, 2013, 10:13:54 PM
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In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Yes, I remember that one well. Housebricks flying around after the game, running battles all the way back to town
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Post by: andyaston on February 14, 2013, 04:26:29 PM
.

In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Yes, I remember that one well. Housebricks flying around after the game, running battles all the way back to town
Was it as bad in the 70s then?
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Post by: Pat McMahon on February 15, 2013, 01:57:57 PM
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In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Yes, I remember that one well. Housebricks flying around after the game, running battles all the way back to town
Was it as bad in the 70s then?

I think it was worse in the 70s
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Post by: Witton Warrior on February 15, 2013, 04:57:16 PM
.

In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Yes, I remember that one well. Housebricks flying around after the game, running battles all the way back to town
Was it as bad in the 70s then?

I think it was worse in the 70s

It was great in the 70's
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Post by: Damo70 on February 15, 2013, 05:02:22 PM
I have just remembered another one I went to. A freebie with my old man towards the end of their top flight relegation season in 1986. Sunday lunchtime kick off for some reason, John Bond was their manager, they were already as good as down and they lost 0-2 to Luton in front of about 6,500 fans. It was so depressing I couldn't even enjoy their misfortune. It was hard not to get caught up in the general air of depression. Even though things were far from great for us at the time it made going to the next Villa home game seem like the glory years in comparison.
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Post by: Big Dick Edwards on February 15, 2013, 07:38:11 PM
In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Was that the game Leighton Phillips got sent off for sticking his fingers up to the ref, and Andy Gray finished the game at centre half?
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Post by: willywombat on February 18, 2013, 09:32:21 PM
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In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Yes, I remember that one well. Housebricks flying around after the game, running battles all the way back to town
Was it as bad in the 70s then?

The old bill were less organised and there were bigger numbers involved
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Post by: Pat McMahon on February 18, 2013, 11:07:41 PM
In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Was that the game Leighton Phillips got sent off for sticking his fingers up to the ref, and Andy Gray finished the game at centre half?

It was. And Francis dived over an imaginary leg to get the winning penalty. I think that incident sparked the mayhem and anarchy from the massive Villa following, although the atmosphere was already on the volatile side.

I remember some DJ on BRMB the next day ( Nicky summat) having been to a store opening in town where Beelzebub had been a "star". He asked him if he had dived and the diving cheat just grinned sheepishly. Subject to my age and memory etc etc.
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Post by: Bernie on February 19, 2013, 08:59:10 AM
Nicky Steele?
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Post by: olaftab on February 19, 2013, 09:16:43 AM
I have been to many non Villa games there however the first one I went to was against West Ham in the late 70's.  This was because I felt I had to support the team in claret and blue playing against them. Stood with West Ham fans and sha lost  5-1. Great fun that was!
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Post by: berneboy on February 19, 2013, 09:18:55 AM
No.
How is it possible to do this?
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on February 19, 2013, 11:11:59 AM
No.
How is it possible to do this?

What? Watch football game not involving the team you support? Pretty easy really, you just go and watch a football game.
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Post by: willywombat on February 20, 2013, 09:11:55 AM
No.
How is it possible to do this?

What? Watch football game not involving the team you support? Pretty easy really, you just go and watch a football game.

I actually enjoy watching a game without my stomach being in knots as it inevitably is when I watch the Villa
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Post by: Yossarian on February 20, 2013, 09:29:05 AM
I've been to a few. The last one was when they played some team in Europe. I have a lot of good friends who support the Blues. Oddly, I met a bloke who was doing some tiling for me down there. It would have been a little dangerous to tell him I was Villa so I let him think I didn't have two opposable thumbs. I kept the whole charade going whilst he did the work for me. Some of the crap I came out with was hilarious. My family took the piss royally out of me for it.
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Post by: garyshawsknee on February 20, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
No.
How is it possible to do this?

What? Watch football game not involving the team you support? Pretty easy really, you just go and watch a football game.

I actually enjoy watching a game without my stomach being in knots as it inevitably is when I watch the Villa

Me too, for reasons far too dull to explain, I'm off to the classic which is Northampton vs Plymouth on Saturday,I'm actually looking forward to it.
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Post by: cheltenhamlion on February 22, 2013, 07:46:42 PM
The game with non league at the time Cheltenham was odd. We went up on the Villa supporters coach for it. And we took a few coaches.

All manner of mayhem in the local pubs ensued as the bumpkin Villa crew went to work, ably supported by many homegrown lads who had been called in for the party and couldn't be arsed with a trip to Naarwich that day. I think it was them.

We spent the whole game stood next to the fence in the away end singing Villa songs, wearing Villa gear and even had Villa flags in the back of the coaches we were on.

It was an eye opener and Cheltenham should have won. Our Villa contingent were as conspicuous as a turd in a cereal bowl.
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Post by: Broughty-Villian on March 08, 2013, 02:16:11 AM
Apart from one disastrous vist, only been to see Villa.

Had an ex who was working for Halifax, she was a manure fan, but we had tickets for some Bloose game in one of the boxes. I got staggeringly hammered before i met her in brum, got very close to a bottle of rum in the hosptality, and was rude to an ex-player.

Surprisingly i didn't get dumped, till a few weks later, when i took her to old trafford, and got thrown out celebrating stauntons equaliser.
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Post by: JD on March 08, 2013, 07:22:48 AM
Apart from one disastrous vist, only been to see Villa.

Had an ex who was working for Halifax, she was a manure fan, but we had tickets for some Bloose game in one of the boxes. I got staggeringly hammered before i met her in brum, got very close to a bottle of rum in the hosptality, and was rude to an ex-player.

Surprisingly i didn't get dumped, till a few weks later, when i took her to old trafford, and got thrown out celebrating stauntons equaliser.

Good man. I thought that Staunton scored first though and Hughes equalised.
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Post by: Salsa Party Animal on March 08, 2013, 04:40:04 PM
never been to St Andrews for any match or a game of golf.
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Post by: Broughty-Villian on March 08, 2013, 07:44:04 PM
Good man. I thought that Staunton scored first though and Hughes equalised. [/quote]


It was a long time ago so could have been.
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Post by: Damo70 on March 10, 2013, 08:51:51 PM
I thought that Staunton scored first and Cantona equalised! Anyone else got any other variations?
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Post by: andyaston on March 10, 2013, 08:54:31 PM
I thought that Staunton scored first and Cantona equalised! Anyone else got any other variations?
Thats correct
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on March 10, 2013, 10:35:43 PM
.

In terms of trouble, I think the night we lost there 2-1 in 1976-77 dwarfs anything since.

Yes, I remember that one well. Housebricks flying around after the game, running battles all the way back to town

As I wrote in an old H&V, it was that bad we were still fighting at school the next day.

Missed the '87 game. Was waiting at the bus stop by the Prince Hal about ten to three when a bird I knew called me from her flat in the adjacent tower block, and I knew she would make me an offer I couldn't refuse. No, it was drugs you dirty devils.

Wished I'd gone when I heard the score.
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Post by: Steve R on March 13, 2013, 03:58:12 PM
I thought that Staunton scored first and Cantona equalised! Anyone else got any other variations?
Thats correct

Definitely Staunton first with Hughes scumming an equaliser. From memory I can't remember Cantona ever scoring against us. Big game bottler.

In my youth it was not unusual to go to either the  Hawthorns or St Andrews if the Villa weren't playing. I have been to a few midweek games in Small Heath, including a cup win over Sheffield Wednesday in front of a 50,000 crowd the day before we beat Southampton. I saw quite a few Villa fans there.

I've also had the dubious privilege of watching Small Heath play the Baggies in an FA Cup semi final at Villa Park.
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Post by: Dave Clark Five on April 09, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
I saw them play Hibs in a friendly (Railway End) and Nottm Forest in a League Cup match (Kop).
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Post by: Dave P on April 11, 2013, 08:51:37 PM
I thought that Staunton scored first and Cantona equalised! Anyone else got any other variations?
Thats correct

Definitely Staunton first with Hughes scumming an equaliser. From memory I can't remember Cantona ever scoring against us. Big game bottler.


Correct. Stan first then Hughes equalised. Also I'm sure Cantona scored twice against us at Old Trafford in 93/94 when we lost 3-1 and Neil Cox scored for us.
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Post by: LeeB on April 12, 2013, 12:37:27 PM
I thought that Staunton scored first and Cantona equalised! Anyone else got any other variations?
Thats correct

Definitely Staunton first with Hughes scumming an equaliser. From memory I can't remember Cantona ever scoring against us. Big game bottler.


Correct. Stan first then Hughes equalised. Also I'm sure Cantona scored twice against us at Old Trafford in 93/94 when we lost 3-1 and Neil Cox scored for us.

Didn't Neil Cox stick his fingers up at them when he scored?
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Post by: Flamingo Lane on April 12, 2013, 12:44:37 PM
I've never been to one there, though I've been to probably dozens at the Hawthorns, including one of the best games I've ever seen, Swindon 3 Burnley 2 in a league cup semi-final replay circa 1969.
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Post by: Lambert and Payne on April 12, 2013, 01:58:12 PM
Its not at Small Heath, but I'm going to watch Bristol play 'em next Tuesday in the Bristol end with my boss
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Post by: danlanza on April 17, 2013, 09:41:14 AM
Went with an ex girlfriend once, she is wolves. Fair bit of bother outside.
I then took us both to the Liam Ridgewell and Gabby game. I am sure to this day that she physically pissed herself with fright.
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Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 17, 2013, 12:54:18 PM
Its not at Small Heath, but I'm going to watch Bristol play 'em next Tuesday in the Bristol end with my boss

Bet that was a barrel of laughs last night?
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Post by: *shellac* on May 05, 2013, 04:21:18 AM
No and will not.
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Post by: Smirker on May 10, 2013, 11:29:55 AM
Twice, our headmaster at school got all of our year tickets for Blues vs Norwich which they won 2-0. This would have been 1999/00.

2nd time was 2007/8 when they lost 1-0 to Man. United, Ronaldo scored.
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Post by: not3bad on May 10, 2013, 01:32:59 PM
I've been to Blues and West Brom games not featuring Villa.  Had a mate (now no longer with us) who was a Blues fan and I'd go to watch Blues with him he'd come and see the Villa with me.  My older brother took me to see a West Brom match on Boxing day during the Ron Atkinson days. 
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Post by: Nev on May 10, 2013, 01:37:53 PM
Twice, our headmaster at school got all of our year tickets for Blues vs Norwich which they won 2-0. This would have been 1999/00.

2nd time was 2007/8 when they lost 1-0 to Man. United, Ronaldo scored.

That man was put in charge of kids?? Good god.
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Post by: john2710 on May 18, 2013, 01:11:46 PM
Had quite a few mates,who were noses back in the late 70's. When the Villa were playing away quite often I'd go to the sty with them, fortunately they always seemed to lose. They had Tarrantini & a few other nobodies who were no comparison to the likes of Little, Gray, Mortimer, Cowans etc.....
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Post by: peter w on May 18, 2013, 08:33:59 PM
Twice, our headmaster at school got all of our year tickets for Blues vs Norwich which they won 2-0. This would have been 1999/00.

2nd time was 2007/8 when they lost 1-0 to Man. United, Ronaldo scored.

That man was put in charge of kids?? Good god.

I'd have still not gone.
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Post by: claretandbeer on May 20, 2013, 09:20:46 PM
Taken by my dad with his workmates to Inter Cities Fairs Cup game v Inter 1961. Blues won,sadly. Buffon was in goal,distant relation to the present Buffon.Hitchens and Greaves scored against him in England's win in Rome  shortly after,which persuaded the Milan clubs to buy them.
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Post by: villalion on June 03, 2013, 08:07:53 PM
Once in 92 I think, it was their last game of the season and I went with two blue nose mates,and another who's villa. Even got on the pitch at the whistle, then got home and saw myself  in the centre pages of the pink paper! Fuckin shit hole.   
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Post by: silhillvilla on June 06, 2013, 05:50:16 PM
Can't remember who it was against but they were losing at home 0-3 and I was with my mate a nose, they were giving Dave Geddis absolute dogs abuse and he was subbed off. As he trudged off he turned around and gave the Kop at SHA the V's. was a class moment.
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Post by: Sunny Villa on June 23, 2013, 05:28:14 AM
Been a couple of times but had mischief on my mind .

1st time was the the week after our Visit to West Ham in that quarterfinal . Blues played west ham the following week so we decided we would have some payback for our treatment down there.

It ended badly we ran into a large mob of West Ham the Blues fans legged it leaving me and a couple of other Villa lads to take a right kicking by the Atlas .

It could have been worse but the one ICF lad spotted my Villa badge and they left us be and called game fckrs.

The next time we turned up after a game at Leicester or Coventry which was an early kick off and tried to get into the kop.

You do daft things as a kid.

I agree the 76 game was crazy , copper got pulled of his horse and there was hundreds of Villa on the car park at the back of the kop hurling everything.

As people said there was running battles around the ground and into town .

I only lived in Alum Rock but went into town ,missing the last bus and having to get the night service.

Old man went crazy , as Percy said school the next day was crackers . Villa all in the one corner of the playground Blues the other.
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Post by: SashasGrandad on June 23, 2013, 06:52:45 AM
I went with a group of referees when I was in the Worcester Refs society. They gave us free tickets as I think Gerald Ashby from Worcester was ref. It was vs Newcastle in whatever they called the 2nd division in those days.

Biggest joke was the guided tour of the ground before the match. The changing rooms are basically not much more than out buildings you would get at a local parks pitch and the trophy room (yes they do have a small one) had this great big cup in the middle. Leyland DAF I think - and they had it in a glass case so nobody could nick it!
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Post by: littlevillain on August 15, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
Was with the lads who went in the kop in '82 but bottled it outside. I played football for the Trooper so knew them all and it wasn't a good move. another time was with a small group of chelmsley/coleshill villa lads outside the kop and bumped straight into young zulus who i knew very well so avoided the whole thing.  It was often a cat and mouse game growing up on chelmsley and being villa in the 80s although i hear its a lot different now.
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Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on August 15, 2013, 10:14:38 PM
Went with a load of my nose mates when I was about 15. T Francis esq made his debut. Remember thinking he was shit hot.
Is this bad?
Do I need to see a priest?

Mate of mine (big Villa fan) organised a college reunion...at the D Club at the Sty.
I couldn't believe it then and still haven't forgiven him.
I remind him of this regularly and he apologises every time!
UTV!
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Post by: ez on August 18, 2013, 11:39:45 AM
I thought that Staunton scored first and Cantona equalised! Anyone else got any other variations?
Thats correct

Definitely Staunton first with Hughes scumming an equaliser. From memory I can't remember Cantona ever scoring against us. Big game bottler.


Correct. Stan first then Hughes equalised. Also I'm sure Cantona scored twice against us at Old Trafford in 93/94 when we lost 3-1 and Neil Cox scored for us.

Didn't Neil Cox stick his fingers up at them when he scored?
I think that was in a 3-1 defeat at Ot. A consolation goal near the end of the game.
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Post by: E I Adio on August 21, 2013, 12:14:23 AM
Went with a load of my nose mates when I was about 15. T Francis esq made his debut. Remember thinking he was shit hot.

I remember seeing him on his debut and you're right, he was frighteningly shit hot.

Fortunately, they managed to coach a lot of it out of him.
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Post by: charlie659 on August 23, 2013, 06:47:46 PM
Never have, never would.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 26, 2013, 12:34:40 PM
Went to Maine Road with our kid to see their last-minute Cup semi-final defeat to Fulham. The blokes from his work had a mini-bus but, typically, couldn't fill it without asking Villa fans to help them out.

I've had more fun, but not much.
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Post by: PGW on August 26, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
Went to Maine Road with our kid to see their last-minute Cup semi-final defeat to Fulham. The blokes from his work had a mini-bus but, typically, couldn't fill it without asking Villa fans to help them out.

I've had more fun, but not much.
So you missed a Villa home game to watch that shower!!!!!

Naughty naughty.......we were at home to Cardiff that night if memory serves!!!
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Post by: Vancouver on August 31, 2013, 06:12:20 AM
Only been to two Blues game. One home 0-2 and the reverse fixture 0-3 I believe. My mate wouldn't drive his car up from Brighton as it had a Villa sticker so we had to get a hire car. We left about 10 minutes from the end to avoid any trouble. Which wasn't there as they were all inside celebrating. So yeah, not very good times for me.
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Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 31, 2013, 06:40:52 PM
Went to Maine Road with our kid to see their last-minute Cup semi-final defeat to Fulham. The blokes from his work had a mini-bus but, typically, couldn't fill it without asking Villa fans to help them out.

I've had more fun, but not much.
So you missed a Villa home game to watch that shower!!!!!

Naughty naughty.......we were at home to Cardiff that night if memory serves!!!

Blame Our Kid. I went where he took me in those days. Thankfully that was overwhelmingly down The Villa.
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Post by: PatPatPatPatPatMcMahon on May 31, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
Much to much shame, the first match I ever went to was at St Andrews. I still don't know why but then again I was only 8 at the time. Maybe my old man got some tickets free or something. We lived in Bordesley Green East so it was only down the road.  An FA Cup game. Tottenham. 0-0. Even though it was in 1967 I remember it being boring, clear as anything. I've just looked it up on t'internet and found the Blues lost the replay 6-0 at White Hart Lane. Wish we'd gone to that one instead.

Never been back unless the Villa were playing, and I don't plan to change that trend.

PS I see that Geoff Vowden and Trevor Hockey both scored for the Blues in their FA Cup run, so I was at least watching future Villa men. That gets me off the hook a bit.
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Post by: PGW on June 01, 2014, 11:53:48 AM
Much to much shame, the first match I ever went to was at St Andrews. I still don't know why but then again I was only 8 at the time. Maybe my old man got some tickets free or something. We lived in Bordesley Green East so it was only down the road.  An FA Cup game. Tottenham. 0-0. Even though it was in 1967 I remember it being boring, clear as anything. I've just looked it up on t'internet and found the Blues lost the replay 6-0 at White Hart Lane. Wish we'd gone to that one instead.

Never been back unless the Villa were playing, and I don't plan to change that trend.

PS I see that Geoff Vowden and Trevor Hockey both scored for the Blues in their FA Cup run, so I was at least watching future Villa men. That gets me off the hook a bit.
You don't have to feel shame for going to this game.....i was at this one myself supporting spurs though, went with schoolmates.
Like yourself my first ever game was at St Andrews v Everton 1960.....i didn't enjoy it and my mate's dad took me down VP a couple of weeks later.....that was it...hooked and in love.
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Post by: dcdavecollett on August 26, 2014, 03:27:15 PM
For a short period, in 68/9 I used to go down the Villa and SH alternate weeks.

They had some really good attacking players in those days -Pickering, Greenhoff, Summerill and Vincent.

I recall a game against Huddersfield where Geoff Vowden came on as a half-time sub and scored a hat-trick!

These Villa boys, eh?
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Post by: Witton Warrior on August 26, 2014, 08:48:58 PM
My first "top flight" match was Wolves v Liverpool 1974 because my next door neighbour ( a pool fan) was too scared to go on his own and I had been tearing around at Stourbridge for a year. He was in his 30's and I was 15.
0-0 bore draw
Title: Re: Ever been to a non villa game at small heath?
Post by: PGW on August 26, 2014, 08:53:30 PM
For a short period, in 68/9 I used to go down the Villa and SH alternate weeks.

They had some really good attacking players in those days -Pickering, Greenhoff, Summerill and Vincent.

I recall a game against Huddersfield where Geoff Vowden came on as a half-time sub and scored a hat-trick!

These Villa boys, eh?
He was first sub to come on and score a hat trick.
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Post by: hipkiss92 on August 26, 2014, 08:56:07 PM
Went to watch them draw 0-0 with Forest just before Xmas last year as a friend had a free ticket, was an incredibly dull game apart from a sending off and 20 man brawl at the end.
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Post by: pooligan on August 26, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
In the early sixties my father used to regularly take me to the Villa one week and Small Heath the next. For some reason i used to love him taking me to Villa Park but not the Sty . Might well have been because of the piss that used to run down the terrace  from the toilet at the top of the Spion Kop .Even in them days they were dirty bastards
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