Alejandro Garnacho - discussion thread

[Beard82]

Who has Emery saved from the football wilderness?, serious question I’m trying to recall a lost cause being turned around.

Rashford?

Tielemans star was on the slide big time when we signed him

I’d say Cash, who everyone was shouting “upgrade”, Mings to a lesser extent, Digne, back to his best form and now with PSG, Ollie reinvigorated, and Rogers who was very raw to being the most expensive British player. That’s off the top of my head.

Lindelof, too?

He’s definitely improved all these players, I was thinking about those with ‘attitude’ problems. Rashford seemed to have fallen out with the manager and many in Manchester had suggested he had a bad attitude (well that’s my recollection). Sancho came with a reputation of not being particularly motivated, he did improve a smidge I guess. Duran in retrospect is probably the best example, as he has since moved on to cause mayhem everywhere else it seems. So maybe he can work wonders with Garnacho.

Rashford bagged 30 goals in all comps for Ten Hag in 22/23 and then a year later the relationship soured. ETH totally fumbled the Cristiano situation.. so maybe Garnacho was a bit frustrated with how he was handling the players, his idol no less. I believe Ten Hag had issues with Varane and Sancho as well. Amorim quit on United from the jump and had no idea what he was doing in English football. Couldn't find a way to win, couldn't level with the players.

Fast forward to Chelsea, you've got two colossal frauds in Maresca and Rosenior. Garnacho was decent under Maresca and totally unconvincing under Rosenior, but that whole team was.

Garnacho isn't perfect, but he's better than what we have. I'm still yet to see a disqualifier as these character questions keep arising. Jonathan Rowe just whacked a guy in a friendly a few days ago and got a straight red card.. same fee as Garnacho but way less reservation from the fans.

He just has to come in and be better than Bailey/Guessand. If we can get his valuation to 45 million in two years, than its a success.

Am I sold on it? Not really.. but it's not nearly as bad as Gabby and Rory Jennings lay out. Gabby going on the radio and talking about a player's lack of professionalism and petty antics is hilarious.

McGinn has gone up season by season under him.

[VancouverLion]

Lucas Digne?

[frank black]

Having listened to Gabby and that Chelsea blokes outrageous personal attack on our prospective signing, I’m now fully invested in the lad being a success! Get him in!

[Toronto Villa]

Rory Jennings is a proper bell end

[john e]

Who has Emery saved from the football wilderness?, serious question I’m trying to recall a lost cause being turned around.

Rashford?

Me

[pauliewalnuts]

Who has Emery saved from the football wilderness?, serious question I’m trying to recall a lost cause being turned around.

Rashford?

Me

Indeed. And every Villa fan in existence.

[frank black]

Who has Emery saved from the football wilderness?, serious question I’m trying to recall a lost cause being turned around.

Rashford?

Me

Possibly a perfect example, but I couldn’t possibly comment

[eamonn]

Guessand must be offered. When the nippers are getting minutes and he isnt, fairly clear what is happening. If we can ship him, we'll get another winger.

If that's specific to last night I assume he's not even back training yet given he was at the world cup. We do need to do something with him though, either sell up or see if he can work as a 9/10 because he didn't look comfortable on the wing and was better at Palace playing much more central.

And while the idea that he might come back, be rehabilitated and be useful might seem ridiculous on what he showed last year, 12 months ago I don't think many of us would have predicted the Buenaissance that was to come either.

Yep, indeed. I'm not saying he will but if we aren't moving him on then we need to give it a go because it's a lot of money doing nothing otherwise.

Buendia always had the technical chops. Guessand looked so limited last season on almost every metric. He wasn't even capable of using his apparent strengths - ie pace and, er, strength. The only hope he ever gave me was that looping header off the bar against Everton. Very unlucky. We'd have gone on to win the game/league had that gone in and he never would have been loaned to Croydon.

[TheToffnar]

Rory Jennings is a proper bell end

He is almost without question the most arrogant, self assured wank stain of a 'pundit' I've ever heard. He epitomizes exactly why Chelsea are principally unlikeable as a club.

[enigma]

I do feel Emery has a bit of a blind spot with wingers. At least in his time with us. He / Monchi has bought poorly and he's not been able to improve them. It's the one area he's struggled with. He's done better in that position when moving central players out there like McGinn.

[DB]

Before he was linked, he would have a been way down on the list of  wingers we could go for. I hope the links are not true.

[TheToffnar]

Before he was linked, he would have a been way down on the list of  wingers we could go for. I hope the links are not true.

Can't imagine he was that far down, given we where enquiring about him last Summer.

[PaulWinch again]

I think you can be pretty sure it’s true.

[UK Redsox]

Rory Jennings is a proper bell end

He is almost without question the most arrogant, self assured wank stain of a 'pundit' I've ever heard. He epitomizes exactly why Chelsea are principally unlikeable as a club.

Do I need to know who Rory Jennings is or can I ignore his existence ?

[eamonn]

Before he was linked, he would have a been way down on the list of  wingers we could go for. I hope the links are not true.

It's too late, he's on his way and you need to face reality.