England national team

[PaulWinch again]

The emotional investment is definitely lower for England and I'm still in my post season bubble of joy so not much can pop that. Having said which, I would love to see England win a tournament so the emotional side increases the further into a tournament we go. Last night was no jeopardy really.

That is exactly my sentiment.

[john e]

The World Cup is a massive global event, the biggest sporting event on earth and watched by 1.5 billion people apparently
Yet in England, it’s nothing like as big as it used to be Is it

I think I’ve seen one England flag in my town. They used to be flags everywhere cars flying flags all over the place nowhere to be seen now.
And I’m not talking about the Gammons here I’m talking about the Mum and the kids going around in the car with England flags attached to the wing mirrors the ones that only like Football when England are playing in the World Cup or euros

I was in my local club last night watching it with maybe 50 other people Southgate World Cup it was rammed over 200 people
I remember World Cup as a younger man, and there was a proper excitement and furvor about them, which doesn’t seem to be there now
It doesn’t really bother me. I still support England and want them to win, but it doesn’t seem to be the spectacle that it used to be. Even though we were rubbish most of the time.

[Brend'Watkins]

Gauge it when the knock outs start. When there’s a whiff of the team doing well they’ll be back in abundance. I do think the flag shaggers have put people off though.

[Somniloquism]

I would argue the lack of flags everywhere is because the racist flag-shaggers have jumped onto them which has meant some people don't want to be accidently associated with them. If England get further playing "good" football then that might reverse.

As for the lack of people in the club, was there really 200 people in your local club to watch England kickoff against Iran at 1pm on a Monday?

[Dave]

As for the lack of people in the club, was there really 200 people in your local club to watch England kickoff against Iran at 1pm on a Monday?

Unless he's talking about the 7pm kick-off against Tunisia in 2018. Which is a much more friendly time than either the Iran or Croatia game, and would be my guess as to why it might have been busier.

[Nev]

I would argue the lack of flags everywhere is because the racist flag-shaggers have jumped onto them which has meant some people don't want to be accidently associated with them. If England get further playing "good" football then that might reverse.

As for the lack of people in the club, was there really 200 people in your local club to watch England kickoff against Iran at 1pm on a Monday?

My local was rammed, I only stayed for the first half then fucked off on the piss because we were watching Fontaines DC that night. I remember it was a proper wet day, torrential rain.

Come to think of it, that's the last time I watched England in the pub.

[Nev]

The flags will multiply as the tournament progresses and providing England do. It's always the same and as much as I hate the Flag Shaggers, I like it to see them. Organic, born of a collective feeling of belonging and the exact opposite of those wankers.

[Somniloquism]

As for the lack of people in the club, was there really 200 people in your local club to watch England kickoff against Iran at 1pm on a Monday?

Unless he's talking about the 7pm kick-off against Tunisia in 2018. Which is a much more friendly time than either the Iran or Croatia game, and would be my guess as to why it might have been busier.

So before Covid then which has also probably had an effect on people coming together for things more. But mainly I suspect places will fill up the further England progress.

[Dave]

Indeed

[Gareth]

Why are the media blaming Konsa for defensive frailties? He did absolutely nothing wrong as far as I could see

Because they won’t criticise the ‘big 6’ favourite players at tournament time….Stones looked like a sort time footballer but O’Reilly by far the worst in that back 4 but he is flavour of the month….irrelevant that at 115FC he seems to run around anywhere because he is a midfielder not a competent left back….if we get Portugal/Spain/France at anytime they all have multiple options wide right that will tear him apart.

[Somniloquism]

The flags will multiply as the tournament progresses and providing England do. It's always the same and as much as I hate the Flag Shaggers, I like it to see them. Organic, born of a collective feeling of belonging and the exact opposite of those wankers.

I still think there will be less though. As you mentioned, having them for specific things like major tournaments or (sorry all your republicans) major royal events did bring a togetherness and a feeling of a special occasion. Having them up 24/7 for the last 6-12 months, getting frayed and filthy, plastic ties slipping to meet each other and wrapped morosely around a wet lampost like an elongated shit-rag has taken any meaning they had away.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Gauge it when the knock outs start. When there’s a whiff of the team doing well they’ll be back in abundance. I do think the flag shaggers have put people off though.

I think it has. I've personally never been one for flag waving during tournaments, but if I was I'd now be waving a three lions one instead of a St Georges cross.

[Dave]

Gauge it when the knock outs start. When there’s a whiff of the team doing well they’ll be back in abundance. I do think the flag shaggers have put people off though.

I think it has. I've personally never been one for flag waving during tournaments, but if I was I'd now be waving a three lions one instead of a St Georges cross.

Go back to pre-Euro '96 vibes and get the Union Jacks back out.

[john e]

It’s just not the same Ive not seen one single plastic chair thrown yet pfft

[Smirker]

Nothing wrong with shagging flags.

If you're of the opinion that it's been hijacked for hate, then it's even more reason for you to shag your flag.

I'm not handing it over to the far right. Think that's a strange opinion to have to be honest.

Shag your flags lads.