Fenerbahçe v Aston Villa post-match thread

[ChicagoLion]

It might be entirely innocent, but it immediately talks about physique and threat.

Which does not mean racism. Not in the context of a physical sport.

[PeterWithesShin]

We often talk on here about the physicality of Mings and Onana, because they're both big and physical.

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah it’s a bit different linking it to threat though - but like I say it might be innocent, it just jarred a bit.

[ChicagoLion]

Yeah it’s a bit different linking it to threat though - but like I say it might be innocent, it just jarred a bit.

It’s a pity if you see the world like that.

[Brazilian Villain]

It might be entirely innocent, but it immediately talks about physique and threat.

Which does not mean racism. Not in the context of a physical sport.

I'd suggest that it's probably more to do with the fact that they're both 1.95m.

[PeterWithesShin]

We thought it was funny when Ty threw Duran around like a rag doll, which he could do because he's a big strong fella.

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah it’s a bit different linking it to threat though - but like I say it might be innocent, it just jarred a bit.

It’s a pity if you see the world like that.

With the greatest respect, a jarring reaction to that is hardly bonkers and you’re extrapolating a bit to determine what my world view is. At least I acknowledge it might be entirely innocent, but you clearly know the backstory behind it all.

[PeterWithesShin]

Those 2 are the ones anyone would pick when talking about Villa and physicality, i'd fancy you have a number of times, as probably all us regular posters have.

[PaulWinch again]

Ok and like I said it might be innocent, it was just how I immediately read it when I saw the reference to physicality and the link the threat.

[PeterWithesShin]

If I was a player i'd much rather be up against Pau or Konsa than Mings. Or Tielemans rather than Onana. Which is what I read him as meaning. Konsa or Pau wouldn't be throwing Duran around, or carrying Leeds players under their arms like they were infants.

[PaulWinch again]

Fair enough.

[Sexual Ealing]

[cultural studies post-grad]
It could be argued that a member of a post-guilt colonial society applying its own standards of racism to someone from a third culture (with its own history of colonial oppression, though less so in sub-Saharan Africa, the origin of the racist trope in question) is in itself not immune to accusations of racism.
[/thatsameguy]

[olaftab]

Skriniar is smaller than me, Ty and Onana aren't.

But you look like a ukranian boxer (apologies for another stereotype  here)

[eamonn]

Skriniar stood over Watkins, cursing at him to get the fcuk up after clearly kicking him. Should have got a second booking, the brute.

[Mister E]

Turkish journalist, Serdar Ali Çelikler: “You saw the physiques of some players at Aston Villa, right? Are they taking extra muscle boosters in the Premier League or what, they all look like giants. A team that's way superior to you physically.

You'd be scared to even pass by Tyrone Mings. You wouldn't sleep for 3 days. Just imagine seeing Onana in the locker room. You'd break out in cold sores everywhere, your sleep would vanish.” https://x.com/fenerkolikorg/status/2014544153766482420

I took this as more of a slur on the Premier League and the dubious ingestion of banned substances in sport ...
... maybe naively not linking to the two mentioned players.