Fenerbahçe v Aston Villa post-match thread

[PeterWithesShin]

[Percy McCarthy]

Matty Cash has really grown into being a top player. He’s a real fighter and wonderfully determined. He has also grown into being a more dangerous attacker. He must also be really fit to play as much as he does.

He’s been great this season.

[Witton Warrior]

Nice to see the Stourbridge Villans flag down the front

[Brazilian Villain]

Turkish journalist, Serdar Ali Çelikler: “You saw the physiques of some players at Aston Villa, right? Are they taking extra muscle boosters in the Premier League or what, they all look like giants. A team that's way superior to you physically.

You'd be scared to even pass by Tyrone Mings. You wouldn't sleep for 3 days. Just imagine seeing Onana in the locker room. You'd break out in cold sores everywhere, your sleep would vanish.” https://x.com/fenerkolikorg/status/2014544153766482420

[PaulWinch again]

Casual racism, lovely. By the way that thug Skrinar looked pretty big to me.

[ChicagoLion]

Casual racism, lovely. By the way that thug Skrinar looked pretty big to me.

How is that casual racism?
Because the 2 players he mentioned are black?

[cdbearsfan]

Reduction of Black people, especially Black men, to the sum of their physical assets is a common racist trope. I don't know the journalist well enough to know if that's happening on this occasion.

[PaulWinch again]

It might be unconscious, but even if it’s inadvertent it’s very clumsy.

[paul_e]

I can see why people go that way but it's also worth noting those 2 are both 6'5 so there's a decent chance he's just named the 2 tallest players on the pitch.

[ChicagoLion]

Reduction of Black people, especially Black men, to the sum of their physical assets is a common racist trope. I don't know the journalist well enough to know if that's happening on this occasion.

But to automatically assume it’s casual racism seems like jumping to a conclusion without any evidence.

[ChicagoLion]

It might be unconscious, but even if it’s inadvertent it’s very clumsy.

as clumsy of you jumping off the deep end?

[PaulWinch again]

Have you never heard or seen anything of racial stereotyping?

[PeterWithesShin]

Skriniar is smaller than me, Ty and Onana aren't.

[PaulWinch again]

It might be entirely innocent, but it immediately talks about physique and threat.

[ChicagoLion]

Have you never heard or seen anything of racial stereotyping?

Yes, of course I have and I would call it out. That is entirely different to automatically jumping to a conclusion that if someone mentions someone’s physical attributes that it is at play.