Leeds United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Baldy]

Apart from the first 30 minutes, was really impressed with our performance. We have the ability to change gear when necessary. A few years in Europe has taught us to conserve energy when possible, let the ball do the work, scrap when we have to and all in the knowledge our extra quality will shine through in the end. Unai being the driver.

We are like the top Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd sides of the 70's, 80's and 90's. Win but keep a few gallons in the tank for the midweek battles.

Yet again, Cash, Torres, Konsa, McGinn, Tielemans really impressed. Rogers brilliant in flashes, Malen a game changer and Unai on the ball with his changes.

Onwards and upwards.

[Dave P]

Not a foul for me, though obviously would have been if the goalkeeper had a shitey little devil on his badge.

Or a bloody J (I'm looking at you Juventus)

[cdbearsfan]

They would have paid the referee beforehand to be on the safe side.

[The Edge]

Not a foul for me, though obviously would have been if the goalkeeper had a shitey little devil on his badge.

Or a bloody J (I'm looking at you Juventus)

I made that comparison during the match.There was a slight nudge on Emi which is enough to make a difference when your mid air. We had that goal against Juventus ruled out because there was slight contact by Carlos. Some refs give it some don't I guess. But we all know if that was Liverpool or Yanited at home it gets disallowed because var is always looking to do them a favour.

[The Edge]

It's great that they dug in against Leeds predictable approach of hustle and bustle. Elland Road was hyperactive as ever and screaming for everything. If we can stand up to that shit and still come away with the points then maybe they listened to the boss when he said after the semi final and Man U capitulations "We must learn from this. We must be stronger in these situations"

[Villa Lew]

Much better 2nd half, both quality goals, my only complaint would be, after we went ahead, we kept giving away needless free kicks in dangerous areas, fortunately we defended them well.

On another matter, can't believe we've suddenly started to score from free kicks, I've probably waited 3 or 4 years for us to do so, then we score 2 in 2 games, both superb strikes, long may it continue.

[kippaxvilla2]

No foul for me, it was like one v Brentford earlier in the season that Martinez got a very fortunate decision on. Needs to rediscover his moxie when the ball is in the air.

Oz, Dennis and Barry agree with you.

[remy]

After dishing out the cherries posting I was counting down to this game and it didn’t disappoint!
Wonderful performance from the lads.
Some points :

We came back from a goal down in a hostile environment for the 2nd time and won - oh the feeling !!!!

We’re 2 points better off after 12 matches than last year;

Leeds’ own player looks at handball man incredulously as he tries to explain to our lads it hit his stomach- what a cheating d***;

Limbs in the away end;

We played some lovely stuff throughout the game;

The ref gave them everything in the first half and we struggled but SUE knew they couldn’t keep it up in the 2nd without burning out or down to 10 men and reorganised us;

Cash, Konsa, Kamara, SJM, Rogers, Buendia all carried on from the last game;

Ollie needs to benched until his injury recovers;

Maatsen and Malden gave us fresh impetus;

Im going to say it - this form will win us the league !!!!!

[darren woolley]

Great win and great away day.

[eye digress]

Im going to say it - this form will win us the league !!!!!

Not there yet, personally.

But I do believe we will "have our say" on who ultimately wins the title, likely by scuppering one of the main challengers at a crucial time.

[Rigadon]

If (and these are massive ifs) we can stay injury free, sign a goalscoring CF in January who hits the ground running / Watkins rediscovers his form.  Then maybe we can have a really good go.  Arsenal look pretty nailed on at the moment though it has to be said. 

[Percy McCarthy]

Can someone put me right please?  I thought that the arm stops at the end of the shoulder of the shirt for offsides?  Ollie kept them onside by the point of his elbow, I thought that no longer counted?

They normally take it as above sleeves for handball when short sleeves are worn.

The initial line flashing blue circles is the line from the attacker to Watkins. The bit they took from Watkins is about halway between his shoulder and his sleeve as shown when they draw the line (it just pokes out above the sleeve.)

The bloke who it bounced in off was offside when the other Leeds bloke nodded it down as well, but they didn’t seem to check that one.

[Villatillidie25]

Can someone put me right please?  I thought that the arm stops at the end of the shoulder of the shirt for offsides?  Ollie kept them onside by the point of his elbow, I thought that no longer counted?

They normally take it as above sleeves for handball when short sleeves are worn.

The initial line flashing blue circles is the line from the attacker to Watkins. The bit they took from Watkins is about halway between his shoulder and his sleeve as shown when they draw the line (it just pokes out above the sleeve.)

The bloke who it bounced in off was offside when the other Leeds bloke nodded it down as well, but they didn’t seem to check that one.

The official premier league match centre seemed to say they didn’t think he was interfering with play - despite scoring the goal 1second after it came off the Leeds player 3 yards away from him… it’s either poorly worded or incompetent.

“The referee call of goal was checked and confirmed by VAR - with Gudmundsson in an onside position in the build up. The VAR also checked the decision of no offside on Nmecha - with it deemed he did not impact Martinez after Stach played the ball. Contact on Martinez was also deemed not to be a foul.”

[The Edge]

Im going to say it - this form will win us the league !!!!!

Not there yet, personally.

But I do believe we will "have our say" on who ultimately wins the title, likely by scuppering one of the main challengers at a crucial time.

If we're still in the top four after the festive season I'll start to believe anything is possible. We have to travel to London two times in three days while our opponents Chelsea and Arsenal have two home games over the same period which is nice of the PL and in no way biased. Liverpool and Man U have been afforded the same luxury with two home games and both of them are playing Wolves (not at the same time obviously)

[Garyth]

That’s 5 successive games we’ve lost on the pointless xG nonsense….do we have to send the 12 points back?

Does anyone take any notice of xG bollocks, really ?

If you have trouble with it, just rename it "Quality of Chances" in your head, and move on. No one seriously says "we beat them on quality of chances".

I know it's been done to death, but anyone using xG in relation to a single game is [deliberately] misrepresenting what it is for, as pointed out:

that's not what the stat is meant to be used for.