Leeds United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[RamboandBruno]

There was a graphic put up stating that they have not lost at home after scoring first in about 2 years or such like.

41 games 33 wins, 8 draws after scoring first. Makes the win  even more impressive.

Was equally surprised to see how good our record at Elland Road was, no defeats since SGTII in the early 00s. Was sure they must have spanked us in the Ch'shit. I guess the losing a two goal lead and them winning 2-3 at VP at the death one Christmas was a scarring one-off!

They definitely beat us at Elland Road in one of the championship years. It was a December, Chris Wood scored, think they beat us 2-0, probably under Bruce, maybe without looking back either Dec 2016 or 17

[Chip Butty 111]

Great result after a poor 1st half. Malen looks like he is part of the furniture now, and Konsa is pure class. Watkins is a big worry atm, his athleticism has always made up for his faults but old father time has got to his legs. McGinn and Youri were excellent and had too much energy for Leeds to handle 2nd half. Rogers did his usual, in and out of the game then gets a cracking brace. Keep McGinn/Tielemans/Kamara/Rogers fit and we could have a cracking season.

[eamonn]

There was a graphic put up stating that they have not lost at home after scoring first in about 2 years or such like.

41 games 33 wins, 8 draws after scoring first. Makes the win  even more impressive.

Was equally surprised to see how good our record at Elland Road was, no defeats since SGTII in the early 00s. Was sure they must have spanked us in the Ch'shit. I guess the losing a two goal lead and them winning 2-3 at VP at the death one Christmas was a scarring one-off!

They definitely beat us at Elland Road in one of the championship years. It was a December, Chris Wood scored, think they beat us 2-0, probably under Bruce, maybe without looking back either Dec 2016 or 17

Ah, yes, you're right. They got their stat wrong then unless they meant PL games.

[Steve67]

Can someone put me right please?  I thought that the arm stops at the end of the shoulder of the shirt for offsides?  Ollie kept them onside by the point of his elbow, I thought that no longer counted? 

[Zouch Villa]

I’m not sure how to substantiate it, but it feels to me that Unai has been getting the timing and impact of the substitutions much better this season than in previous seasons.  Perhaps to do with the greater strength of the bench.

[Steve67]

There was a graphic put up stating that they have not lost at home after scoring first in about 2 years or such like.

41 games 33 wins, 8 draws after scoring first. Makes the win  even more impressive.

Was equally surprised to see how good our record at Elland Road was, no defeats since SGTII in the early 00s. Was sure they must have spanked us in the Ch'shit. I guess the losing a two goal lead and them winning 2-3 at VP at the death one Christmas was a scarring one-off!

They definitely beat us at Elland Road in one of the championship years. It was a December, Chris Wood scored, think they beat us 2-0, probably under Bruce, maybe without looking back either Dec 2016 or 17

Ah, yes, you're right. They got their stat wrong then unless they meant PL games.

We were beaten on the day that the Italian keeper made his debut for us.  He was hopeless. 

[astonvilla82]

Just listened to the match on BBC 5live catch up, just for the goals scored, one commentators said Rogers couldn't get it over the wall and was given their opinion on where he should place it,a round the wall was a suggestion and when he placed it over, they were trying to blame the Leeds players for not jumping,the keeper was at fault, imagine if Salad and Harland had done it,I got the impression that we were wrong to be winning at poor old Elland Road

[rob_bridge]

I’m not sure how to substantiate it, but it feels to me that Unai has been getting the timing and impact of the substitutions much better this season than in previous seasons.  Perhaps to do with the greater strength of the bench.

It certainly seems that way. The Elliot off for Buendia in Fulham game started the wave.

Used Barkley smartly for large part. Got Maatsen on today too at the right time.

[Chip Butty 111]

Can someone put me right please?  I thought that the arm stops at the end of the shoulder of the shirt for offsides?  Ollie kept them onside by the point of his elbow, I thought that no longer counted?

They make it up as they go along. Chelsea did what Mings / Martinez did in Bruges yesterday ( picked the ball up when it was live  in the penalty area, carbon copy in fact) and Burnley wanted a penalty...nothing doing. The commentator said glad common sense prevailed there. On a side note, Rob Jones prancing around like Peter Perfect was abysmal today.

[SoccerHQ]

Dodgy first half but only one winner once we got it back to 1-1. Leeds just stood off us and allowed Youri to dictate all the play centrally which is really a big no-no.

Well done to Unai for making two subs at half time rather than wait until after the hour mark as he realised if we got a quick response we'd go on to win and so it occurred.

If we beat Wolves then I think going on the point per game ratio we'd be on course for better points return than last season and even 23/24.

Imagine thinking any of this was possible after Sunderland away, it has been some turnaround.

[tomd2103]

I’m not sure how to substantiate it, but it feels to me that Unai has been getting the timing and impact of the substitutions much better this season than in previous seasons.  Perhaps to do with the greater strength of the bench.

Agree.  The substitutions are giving us real impetus in games. 

[paul_e]

Can someone put me right please?  I thought that the arm stops at the end of the shoulder of the shirt for offsides?  Ollie kept them onside by the point of his elbow, I thought that no longer counted?

They make it up as they go along. Chelsea did what Mings / Martinez did in Bruges yesterday ( picked the ball up when it was live  in the penalty area, carbon copy in fact) and Burnley wanted a penalty...nothing doing. The commentator said glad common sense prevailed there. On a side note, Rob Jones prancing around like Peter Perfect was abysmal today.

The commentator was spot on. Taking it as a misunderstanding and restarting from the goal kick is obviously the right thing to do, there are othger examples as well and I honestly can't think of one similar where it's been given as a penalty, was just really poor against us. As much as the rules are clear sometimes you just need to stop and think and apply the 'spirit' of the law instead of being entirely by the book. Annoyingly we seem to be a club that fairly regularly has these weird applications of the laws go against us where everyone knows that the decision wouldn't go that way 99 times out of a hundred but as it's technically justifiable in the laws we just have to live with it.

[Somniloquism]

Can someone put me right please?  I thought that the arm stops at the end of the shoulder of the shirt for offsides?  Ollie kept them onside by the point of his elbow, I thought that no longer counted?

They normally take it as above sleeves for handball when short sleeves are worn.

The initial line flashing blue circles is the line from the attacker to Watkins. The bit they took from Watkins is about halway between his shoulder and his sleeve as shown when they draw the line (it just pokes out above the sleeve.)

[LeeS]

If we beat Wolves then I think going on the point per game ratio we'd be on course for better points return than last season and even 23/24.

Oh no, you had to go and say it. Feck

[Mellin]

What we're doing in fourth after that start to the season I've no idea. Well in, Villa.