Liverpool v Doctor Villa Post Match Thread.

[PaulWinch again]

We’re much more solid than last year - two bad errors yesterday, but we don’t look like we’re going to concede as soon as we’re put under strain. However, without Rashford, Asensio, and Tielemans we look much more laboured in attack.

[trinityoap]

Margins--keeper make a very good save                                                                             
              keeper makes an error

              shot hits the post
              shot deflected and goes in
I am not suggesting Liverpool were not the better side but the above appeared to be the main  difference.

[Astnor]

What's the Egil Olsen reference again? Haven't thought about the man since circa 2001 and am now wondering if I've led the right life since.

He was manager for Norway national team with much success (relatively to usual standard for that team (I m a Norwegian myself)) in the nineties. After manager for Wimbledon I think. A stubborn relating on a his worked out system for how his team should play the game - not so much on players general ability but more how they - with each their own spesific talent, could do a role in his system. In this was he had to use the players for his disposal; limitations in this regard. In fact I have sometimes been thinking of him when I have been thinking about Emery as a manger , I m not thinking they are much similar though.

[Ads]

Margins--keeper make a very good save                                                                             
              keeper makes an error

              shot hits the post
              shot deflected and goes in
I am not suggesting Liverpool were not the better side but the above appeared to be the main  difference.

We are in agreement.

[brontebilly]

SJM has been superb all season, but yesterday he made very little impact on the game and one of the factors, why we got nothing from the match.

He has played well in that position before but he's better on the right.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

SJM has been superb all season, but yesterday he made very little impact on the game and one of the factors, why we got nothing from the match.

He has played well in that position before but he's better on the right.

He was hugging the touchline for most of the game. He's no left winger and as Villa Lew said, 'one of the factors, why we got nothing from the match'. A crazy decision where we decided to compromise our strengths in fear of theirs.

[passport1]

We gifted a goal and their second was a deflection. We hit the post and bar. I'm not going to get too upset about this result. Onwards and upwards!!

[Somniloquism]

We gifted a goal and their second was a deflection. We hit the post and bar. I'm not going to get too upset about this result. Onwards and upwards!!

I think the fact it was gifts is where the moans mostly lie. If an unbelievable move or worldie screamer was scored, it would have been unpreventable (although Onana/Guessand/Martinez* (delete as appropriate) would have been blamed) 

[TonyD]

You can talk about fine margins and hitting the woodwork.
But we were mostly bloody awful. 
I think we must have made more completed passes to Liverpool. 
Apart from Cash and Konza they were shite. 
A complete opposite to the great performance v Citeh. 
It would have to be against Liverpool. 

[ASHTONVILLA]

We gifted a goal and their second was a deflection. We hit the post and bar. I'm not going to get too upset about this result. Onwards and upwards!!

Pretty much where I am with it. We were not outclassed at all, and our poits haul from the last three games is pretty good all things considered.

I continue to be pissed off with Martinez. Have been ever since the non performance at Man Utd last game of the season, worsened by the disgraceful antics in the summer, and not helped by his crap form all this season.

I hope he gets sold in January, meanwhile I'd be picking Bizot.

[Clampy]

Yesterday's gaff aside, I think Emi has been fine this season. He made some very good saves against Man City and Spurs which people tend to forget.

[PaulWinch again]

Yesterday's gaff aside, I think Emi has been fine this season. He made some very good saves against Man City and Spurs which people tend to forget.

He also bailed Kamara out from a terrible error too.

[The Edge]

You can talk about fine margins and hitting the woodwork.
But we were mostly bloody awful. 
I think we must have made more completed passes to Liverpool. 
Apart from Cash and Konza they were shite. 
A complete opposite to the great performance v Citeh. 
It would have to be against Liverpool.

I really don't get why you think we were bloody awful. We played some excellent stuff at times. I'll admit we didn't reach the heights of the City performance but we were were not awful in my view. Rogers is getting back to his best and they struggled to cope when he ran at them.Kamara was a bit hit and miss but he was imperious in parts. The roll through the legs of Gravenbirch in the second half was bloody brilliant.

[BoVillan esq]

2 things you can't do if you go to Anfield and expect to win or even draw, 1, you don't gift the opposition crazy opportunities they can't fail to score from and that was a huge mistake and 2, you take your chance gratefully, had we taken those chances early in the game the whole thing would have looked very different.

For me area's of concern would be Ollie, he is not now or not ever, a full on striker and that's what we need, we depend on a player that has just stopped scoring that we depend on to score, this slowing the opposition down, how the flip flop do you slow Liverpool down, you don't, don't get me wrong the difference between the 2 sides was minimal, but this kind of slow build up long ball approach is never going to work against Liverpool, Guessand happy to give the bloke every chance but he knows the Premiership now, he's bedded in, he now needs to show on a game by game basis what the 30 million was for, personally I think he has it in him but he does now need to show some brilliance, a few goals, help Ollie out.

Emi, what can you say, he's  our first choice goalkeeper, he wanted to leave the club and was desperate to leave the club, its a dodgy thing.

Glad to see these batch of games over, thought we did really well, we beat Spurs and Man City, before these 3 games I would have been amazed at that outcome, I would have bet on 1 point v Spurs, we need to focus on the next 3 games all of which we can seriously get max points from and break into the top 4, then hold on like grim death for the rest of the season to a top 6 place and try to squeeze in for a CL place, this is where it counts. 

[PaulWinch again]

It’s not as straightforward as that - part of the reason the centre forward isn’t scoring is we’re not producing many presentable chances a centre forward scores.