Liverpool v Doctor Villa Post Match Thread.

[martyn ellis]

Lots of negativity on here. Some justified. But had either of Rogers or Cash shots against the post gone in, it could have been different - coupled with the Emi brainfart and deflected goal of course. Sometimes games turn against you like that.

[Pete3206]

If only etc......

We were absolutely terrible 2nd half and fully deserved to be beaten.

Crap.

[Brend'Watkins]

In all honesty I didn’t think we’d get a result but the way we gave it to them, Emi should be inconsolable.
That gift fucked us. Had we kept to 0-0 at the break it would have given us a really good chance.

[Percy McCarthy]

Lots of negativity on here. Some justified. But had either of Rogers or Cash shots against the post gone in, it could have been different - coupled with the Emi brainfart and deflected goal of course. Sometimes games turn against you like that.

Agreed. A fair-minded neutral (obviously there are not many of those among the pundit class) would say we were unlucky.

Still optimistic about our prospects this season with Buendia and Tielemans coming back. Little Emi, Malen, Sancho should all be above Guessand in the pecking order for a place IMO.

[usav]

Lots of negativity on here. Some justified. But had either of Rogers or Cash shots against the post gone in, it could have been different - coupled with the Emi brainfart and deflected goal of course. Sometimes games turn against you like that.

But that misses the point that many of us made already that we knew this would be the outcome because it’s iwhat we do.  Anfield, Etihad or Old Trafford, it doesn’t matter - we go there and be passive and let them flatter themselves, even when they are struggling,

[PhilVill]

Martinez lost us that game, simple as. To do that 2 minutes before half time, instead of just knocking the ball 50 yards up the pitch, was ridiculous. If you've played football at any level you'll just get to half time by any means and take stock from there and at 0-0 we were still well in the game.

Positives were Rogers is looking better each game and Cash is really kicking on to look like an excellent right back.

Negatives, Guessand was terrible - again
Watkins still doesn't look right, somethings missing.
McGinn on the left doesn't work
Midfield was complete opposite to the fight and grit showed last week
Passing was sloppy throughout
Martinez looks a shadow of previous seasons, it's obvious he wanted off and is pissed off to still be here.

Thankfully, it's over for another season, the TNT wank fest was probably the most biased presentation I've seen, and that's saying something.

[steamer]

what happened to Mings ?

[danno]

what happened to Mings ?

He was running back, looked like he pulled his hamstring.

[kippaxvilla2]

Emery confirmed hamstring.

[Steve67]

Tottenham away, Manchester City at home, Liverpool away, expected points? Arguably one, against city? We took six points out of nine and moved comfortably up the table. Hopefully, we have an easier period to come and four home games out of the next five. Cause for optimism. Last night, silly mistakes led to our own down fall. We have to take it and move on.

[PaulWinch again]

Tottenham away, Manchester City at home, Liverpool away, expected points? Arguably one, against city? We took six points out of nine and moved comfortably up the table. Hopefully, we have an easier period to come and four home games out of the next five. Cause for optimism. Last night, silly mistakes led to our own down fall. We have to take it and move on.

Yep that’s largely where I am. Liverpool picking/being able to pick a much more pragmatic team was always going to make it tough.

But one problem we do need to address it’s chance creation, or the absence of it. I’ve said it a few times, as have others, but we’re not creating a high volume of chances for “simple” goals. We really need to start that. I think it’s an absence of effective wide play contributing to it.

[Clampy]

Disappointing result and it wasn't as if Liverpool played that well. If Emi looks to his right and plays it out to the unmarked Konsa (i think), we go in 0-0 and who knows.

[Percy McCarthy]

^^ Spot on on the chance creation Paul.

[RamboandBruno]

Only saw the first 30 mins last night, in which we looked good, although we got away with a couple of brain farts defensively, so warning signs were there. 
Just watched MOTD, though Ashley Williams review of how we played or how Unai set us, missed the point, in thats how we always play (passing out patiently from the back), there was a valid point in his analysis, in thats how we didn’t really try and play to Liverpool’s weaknesses with longer balls.
Anyway, law of averages suggests they were unlikely to lose. We are a good team and will bounce back, but the points made about us not creating simple tap in like chances is a good one. And Ollie Watkins really needs a tap in.

[Chris Smith]

Scoring first was the key to the game. It gave them a confidence boost and knocked us back. If we’d got the first or even held out for 60 minutes the opposite would have happened.