Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[pauliewalnuts]

Yep, JJ went because we needed the extra financial injection from 40m or whatever it was for a homegrown player.

Except Damian has said that we offered him a new deal but he refused to sign it. So had he done so, would we have sold someone else? Or just not bought Guessand? Fine by me.

Well, that doesn't rule it out as an explanation, in fact, it makes it more likely - we have a player refusing a new deal, who represents PSR gold.

He was home grown, sell him and we bank the entirety of the 40m fee in this year's accounts. We then go and absolutely waste spend 30m on Guessand on (guessing here) a 5 year deal, and we're taking a 6m a year hit to the accounts.

Keeping JJ rather than buying another player was much more than just a "is this player better than that one" comparison.

I get that but our preference was to keep him. I was speculating on what we would have done had we come to an agreement as it was touch and go whether he'd leave or not and this was mid-August. What do you think we'd have done had we not sold him?

Only thing I can think of, to meet UEFAs rules with two weeks to go, would have been to let Martínez go on the cheap to Yanited or refuse loans for Bailey but take less for a transfer fee than we wanted.

Yep, we'd have had to sell someon else.

[Matt C]

Move Martinez or Bailey on earlier in the summer - which seems to have been the assumed path but didn’t happen (a loan offer for Emi and cooled Saudi interest in Bailey) - and Ramsey would still be here.

[lovejoy]

Contractually I am not sure of the position. His transfer was reported as a loan with obligation to buy (after 10 appearances)??
Do we know for sure in he doesn’t make 10 appearances by January Liverpool need to take him back? I haven’t seen this confirmed anywhere. If Slot doesn’t fancy him then aren’t we just stuck with his wages?

[PeterWithe]

The 10 game clause is clearly the issue. He's gone by Christmas.

I know it's a minor point, but I don't think he'd have been in the Xmas video if he were heading back to Anfield in a few weeks.

Wouldnt it have be recorded months ago?

I mean, as these things go it’s alright, but it’s not Ben Hur. They’d have knocked it off in afternoon.

[Dave]

Contractually I am not sure of the position. His transfer was reported as a loan with obligation to buy (after 10 appearances)??
Do we know for sure in he doesn’t make 10 appearances by January Liverpool need to take him back? I haven’t seen this confirmed anywhere. If Slot doesn’t fancy him then aren’t we just stuck with his wages?

Aston Villa is (sic) delighted to announce the signing of Harvey Elliott from Liverpool.

The 22-year-old joins the club on an initial season-long loan deal with an obligation to buy conditional on appearances.

He is here for the season, either on loan or permanently. But it is for the season.

[brontebilly]

Makes squad tonight?

[cdbearsfan]

He's on programme duty.

[ROBBO]

JJ has hardly kicked a ball for his new club,

[eamonn]

He'll surely get a run of starts at some stage but Barnes is in-form and the skinny blonde is a regular starter too.

[London Villan]

Getting ourselves into such a tangle was another nail in Monchi’s coffin.

[Brazilian Villain]

He'll surely get a run of starts at some stage but Barnes is in-form and the skinny blonde is a regular starter too.

Amanda Holden?

[PeterWithesShin]

[rob_bridge]

He'll surely get a run of starts at some stage but Barnes is in-form and the skinny blonde is a regular starter too.

That's the thing - they had Gordon and Barnes and he isn't going to start regularly ahead of their midfield 3. Maybe spark that Barnes needed to improve

[Skipper_The_Eyechild]

The next Liverpool manager might want him.

[PhilVill]

If Liverpool want to protect their investment, they'll terminate this loan early Jan.

Emery doesn't want him so best for all parties to agree it was a 4 month fuck up and call it a day.